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Brian chats with Jack Atherton 4/10/2026 · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Eighth five Here a fifty five kc DE talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday Extra Special. We caught mark two of the
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  Speaker 1: Big Picture with Jack Adad and Jack Adan's on the phone, Dak,
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  Speaker 1: don't give Danny a hard time. We have a technical
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  Speaker 1: difficulties problems with Zoom because Joe Strecker is not here
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  Speaker 1: and only he knows how to properly work that. He's
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  Speaker 1: got a special account that allows the Zoom connection to
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  Speaker 1: work for the whole show. Danny and I have been
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  Speaker 1: relaunching and having Zoom collapse all morning, so it only
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  Speaker 1: lasts for about fifteen minutes for a collapses. So that's
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  Speaker 1: the technical difficulty that Danny's been challenged with this morning,
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  Speaker 1: which is why we have you on the phone now. Jack,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. It's always a pleasure having you
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Appreciate your willingness to save me from
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  Speaker 1: myself on a Friday in the eight o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you don't need saving, but I'm the eager to
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  Speaker 2: be on. Unfortunately I don't have the latest iPhone. I
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  Speaker 2: have a chain can, but if you can hear me,
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  Speaker 2: let's go ahead with this.
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  Speaker 1: Loud and clear, Jack, loud and clear.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, my friend, starting with the break to
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  Speaker 2: air strikes to kill Dieto Lahamani and the rest of
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  Speaker 2: Iran stamp leaders, followed by the bombing campaign that seized
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  Speaker 2: control of Iranian skies and sees, though not yet the
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  Speaker 2: crucial Strait of Hormuz. From the very beginning, friends, and
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  Speaker 2: even before the beginning, going back to last June's D
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  Speaker 2: two crushing of Iran's nuclear program, which they went ahead
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  Speaker 2: and tried to restart. I have supported President Trump's war,
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  Speaker 2: or what he calls the mission to end the jahadast
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  Speaker 2: forty seven year war on America, and yet it is
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  Speaker 2: possible to win a war and lose the peace. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how the curren cease fire negotiations will end,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps in real peace, with the leaders that Iran has
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  Speaker 2: left agreeing to give up their nuclear ambitions, there as
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  Speaker 2: their continental ballistic missiles and their control of the strait,
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  Speaker 2: which we can never forget is an international water Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like the Suez and Panama Canals. They have no right
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  Speaker 2: to do this, or, perhaps less likely, the surviving Mullahs
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  Speaker 2: and revolutionary guards will grant their people the freedom to protest,
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  Speaker 2: to organize, and hey, we can dreama acquire weapons so
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  Speaker 2: they won't be mowed down by the tens or hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of thousands if they try to form a new government.
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  Speaker 2: We can never forget the Bill of rights that we
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  Speaker 2: have in America and nobody else has. Those concessions would
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  Speaker 2: require this regime to surrender or collapse. More realistically, it
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  Speaker 2: is still possible that Trump will find an Iranian Delsy
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  Speaker 2: Rodriguez the new leader of Venezuela. Maybe it would be
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  Speaker 2: a leader of Iran's regular army, not the fanatical revolutionary guards.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that President Trump could not clearly foresee
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  Speaker 2: the outcome of this war does not mean I think
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  Speaker 2: that he should have followed his Democrats and Republican predaceorfessors
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  Speaker 2: in kicking the can down the road until Iran clearly
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  Speaker 2: had a weapon of mass destruction. Look, if a mugger
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  Speaker 2: holds a gun to your head in New York City,
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  Speaker 2: you don't refuse to grab the gun. You don't refuse
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  Speaker 2: to disarm him. Just because the Democrat prosecutor there probably
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  Speaker 2: won't bring charges and his Democrat judge won't convict, and
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  Speaker 2: New York's Marxist mayor will give that criminal a key
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  Speaker 2: to the city. You still granted the gun and you
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  Speaker 2: disarm Iran. But when you volunteer military succeeds decisively with
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  Speaker 2: legendary valor, what do you do then? How do you
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  Speaker 2: win the peace? History's most famous example of losing the
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  Speaker 2: peace came just over one hundred years ago at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the Great War, the War to End All Wars,
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  Speaker 2: those were its first nicknames. The name we give that
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  Speaker 2: war today points to its failure. Now we call it
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  Speaker 2: World War One because just twenty one years later the
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  Speaker 2: first shots were fired in World War II. Largely because
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  Speaker 2: the First World War ended with a botched peace treaty,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have time to sort out the causes of
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  Speaker 2: the First World War. As many as ten million combatants
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  Speaker 2: were killed in a trench, tea and in the air.
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  Speaker 2: There's an incredible Air Force museum to see how the
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  Speaker 2: Wright Brothers peaceful invention within that decade was fitted out
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  Speaker 2: with bombs and machine guns. The Great War was fought
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  Speaker 2: over colonies, oil, cheffed something national pride and did I
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  Speaker 2: mention oil. Almost any war since then there has been
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  Speaker 2: fought in large measure over oiled, from Lawrence of Arabia
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  Speaker 2: to the Nazis Desert Fox that Vietnam, Libya, Venezuela, and
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  Speaker 2: now the twenty percent of the world's oil controlled by Iran.
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  Speaker 2: President Trump's extraction of Maduro from Venezuela gave America a
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  Speaker 2: big say and how its oil will be sold. Iran
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  Speaker 2: has proved tougher, and various times Trump has threatened to
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  Speaker 2: blockade Iran's oil or destroy its cargile refineries, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: instead seize that oil or and this may have been
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  Speaker 2: one of Trump's worst heavy handed jokes. Let the illegal
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  Speaker 2: tolds that Iron's new leader is ex charging it for
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  Speaker 2: those ships.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I circled that one to talk with you about.
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  Speaker 2: Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt, but that one really,
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  Speaker 1: really really hurts me.
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  Speaker 2: In a few hours, all hell may break loose, but
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  Speaker 2: let me end by finishing the tragic story of World
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  Speaker 2: War One. It's not precise analogy, but it's instructive, I
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  Speaker 2: think because the Verside Peace Treaty made Hitler inevitable. President
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  Speaker 2: Woodrow Wilson personally drew up that treaty in Paris, egg
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  Speaker 2: done by the victorious leaders of Britain, France, and Italy.
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  Speaker 2: America had come to Europe's rescue, and Europe pretended to
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  Speaker 2: be grateful alike today when there's not even a pretense.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of seeking a lasting peace, the Allied victors bled
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  Speaker 2: Germany dry with impossibly high demands for reparations and the
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  Speaker 2: loss of Germany's manufacturing regions, not colonies, these origions within Germany.
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  Speaker 2: The vanquished German Empire agreed to regime change. Its blood
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  Speaker 2: thirsty Kaiser Wilhelm died in exile, but the new German Republic,
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  Speaker 2: because of the rapacious Versailles Treaty, faced hyper inflation. It's
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  Speaker 2: not just a myth, it's not just the story. And
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  Speaker 2: you actually needed a wheelbarrow filled with worthless cash to
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  Speaker 2: buy your family a loaf of bread. Hyperinflation reduced thousands
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  Speaker 2: of women to prostitution. Everywhere you looked Brian there was disease,
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  Speaker 2: and to spare the threat of a communist takeover empowered
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  Speaker 2: the Nazis. The escapegoating of Jewish bankers cemented Hitler's power.
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  Speaker 2: The Feurer persuaded Germany that they had not really lost
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  Speaker 2: the war. Rather, the Fatherland had been stabbed in the
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  Speaker 2: back by both capitalists and Marxist Jews. History, not to mention,
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  Speaker 2: voters will view the Iran War as a failure. If
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  Speaker 2: Jahadists remain in power and in a few years developed
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  Speaker 2: or like Pakistan, they buy nuclear bombs and long range missiles,
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  Speaker 2: we have to win the war. We cannot lose the
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  Speaker 2: peace now. By contrast with World War One very quickly,
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  Speaker 2: World War II ended decisively and ushered in eighty years
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  Speaker 2: of growth and middle class prosperity that continues to this day.
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  Speaker 2: And Iran freed from Jahadas, thinking death to America may
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  Speaker 2: persuade the entire Middle East to join Trump's greatest achievement
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  Speaker 2: along with security and our borgers, the Abraham of courts,
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  Speaker 2: a free Iran may fuel another century of prosperity. Brotherhood, peace,
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  Speaker 2: So please, having won the war, let's not lose the peace.
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  Speaker 2: What do you say, brother, Well?
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  Speaker 1: An element of losing the peace, And it just really
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  Speaker 1: ticked me off at the top of the air of
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  Speaker 1: the news when that might came on this morning at
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  Speaker 1: five had just ended. And Spain is accusing the United
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  Speaker 1: States and Israel of violating international law in connection with
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  Speaker 1: its bombing campaign of Iran. And I've heard that before.
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  Speaker 1: But Spain also is the one that wouldn't let us
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  Speaker 1: use their airspace to engage in any warfare with the Iranians,
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  Speaker 1: even though we have a base there. So they come
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  Speaker 1: out charging the United States as violating international law. Where
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  Speaker 1: are these screams and the cries of outrage over the
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  Speaker 1: Iranians violating international law by denying the freedom of navigation
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  Speaker 1: in international waters. So there's that, and we could all
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  Speaker 1: argue about that, because it apparently is a violation of
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  Speaker 1: the conventional the law of the seas. It's a violation
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  Speaker 1: of international law which provides for and guarantees freedom of
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  Speaker 1: navigation in international waters. Straight up, our mouse is international
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  Speaker 1: international waters. So what of that? And then going back
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  Speaker 1: to Donald Trump's very very concerning statement that, okay, what
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  Speaker 1: about charging tolls. I'd rather do that than let them
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  Speaker 1: have them? Right, why shouldn't we Why we're the winner,
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  Speaker 1: Let's split them in essence, split the tolls. I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand how anybody could abide tolls, period. But the concept
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  Speaker 1: of the United States, and it's even saying out loud, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay if we get half the money. What a
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  Speaker 1: massive concession, What a massive element of losing the peace?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you. How you know, it's interesting
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  Speaker 2: in most countries you have two leaders, one of them
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  Speaker 2: is a more or less nominal leader. It's often called
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  Speaker 2: the president. You know, they have won their France. They
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  Speaker 2: have one in Israel, and that's the head of states,
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  Speaker 2: like the King of England, who is supposed to be temperance, temperate,
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  Speaker 2: a statesman like and who speaks for the country. The
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  Speaker 2: other one is the prime Minister, the guy who is
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  Speaker 2: down in dirty and actually governs. And unfortunately in our
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  Speaker 2: country in this case, it's unfortunate. Donald Trump is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to fulfill two of those roles. He's supposed to both be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the statesman like spokesperson and also the guy
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  Speaker 2: who gets things done. He gets things done, and I
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  Speaker 2: think he's going to get this done. But a lot
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  Speaker 2: of his statements annexing Canada, seizing perhaps by Forrest Greenland,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. It alienates a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: and it's made it tougher to form a coalition. A
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  Speaker 2: guy who was very good, that was a statesman. That
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  Speaker 2: was George H. W. Bush. George H. W. Bush led
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  Speaker 2: Saddam Hussein off the hook, and that's why his son
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  Speaker 2: went and fought another war with Iraq. But the old
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  Speaker 2: man was head of the CIA, he was an ambassador
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  Speaker 2: and he knew how to speak to people, and he
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  Speaker 2: knew how to draw together people. Getting back to a
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  Speaker 2: round right now is some combination Bryant of clerics and
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  Speaker 2: revolutionary guards who remain in power, in full control of
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  Speaker 2: their oil revenue and receiving iron shipments from their biggest
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  Speaker 2: client in China, and even worse, if they can control
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  Speaker 2: who passes through the Strait of Horror moves. We will
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  Speaker 2: have lost the war. But that's a lot of the is.
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  Speaker 2: It's a worst case scenario. With Trump in office for
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  Speaker 2: another two and a half years, I believe he won't
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  Speaker 2: let that happen. There are ways to win, even short
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  Speaker 2: of regime change, which Trump never promised. What's non negotiable,
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  Speaker 2: I hope is the surrender or the neutralizing, maybe burying
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  Speaker 2: it in that mountain of Irun's weapons grade uranium. Also
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  Speaker 2: the ability to monitor from the ground or from space
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  Speaker 2: future nuclearization, as well as limiting long range missile production
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  Speaker 2: and finally fully opening the straight of horror moves. We're
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  Speaker 2: in the position to accomplish all of that right now.
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  Speaker 2: It won't take a forever war. It will take will
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  Speaker 2: and forever vigilance.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate your optimism to know, and Jack Etherdan and
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  Speaker 1: I sure hope you're right that it turns out that way.
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  Speaker 1: The other troubling component of all this is the longevity
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  Speaker 1: of the United States is the default currency. I know,
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  Speaker 1: Iran is charging cryptocurrency and has a very massive amount
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  Speaker 1: of crypto in its arsenal, which allows them to evade sanctions.
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  Speaker 1: So the more people catch on to the idea of
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  Speaker 1: using crypto, the less likely it is they're going to
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  Speaker 1: support the US dollar. And that's a real thing that
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  Speaker 1: concerns me a lot for down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Jack, me too, especially with the chaos that we have
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  Speaker 2: now at the Federal Reserve. But that's a whole another
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  Speaker 2: talk some other day. Get the way you know you are,
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  Speaker 2: Pasha well aimed as Spain. Spain is now an out
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  Speaker 2: and out socialist country. Yes they have a but they're socialists.
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  Speaker 2: The UK under Kris Charmer is not much better. Western Europe.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, we've talked about this before. It's
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  Speaker 2: fund We have to look to Eastern Europe, which has
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  Speaker 2: been supportive of US. They are the growing economies, they
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  Speaker 2: are the capitalist America loving economies. Also some of the
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  Speaker 2: Scandinavian countries. We have to move forward with our allies,
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  Speaker 2: but we can't needlessly needle them and alienate them. We
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  Speaker 2: have to try to build a coalition of a willing
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  Speaker 2: and go ahead and open up that strait. And certainly
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  Speaker 2: we have to, as they say, defag aran.
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  Speaker 1: Hey man, Jack allenan God bless you, sir, for spending
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  Speaker 1: time with listeners, mean second time this week. You're always
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  Speaker 1: welcome here in the morning show. I appreciate your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and insight brilliant as they always are. We'll talk next Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: I hope, Jack.
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  Speaker 2: Yes that wait, Thanks so much. Big picture next week