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#208: Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night 2 (1987) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned.
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  It has been three months since my last confession.
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  I've disobeyed my parents many times.
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  I've taken the Lord's name in vain many times.
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  I've had sinful relations with boys at my school.
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  Many boys, many times. My child, these are great sins.
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  You must prepare yourself for the consequences.
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  Father, there's just one more thing.
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  What is it, my poor child? I loved every minute of it.
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  Welcome. So what's your least favorite
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  scary movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly, and the absurd, and all of our
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  favorite. And least favorite.
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  Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has his fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse, and guess what?
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  It's May. We're back to prom.
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  Oh yeah. We had so much fun with it last
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  year and we decided, why wouldn't we just go ahead and do
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  it again this year? So many prom movies left
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  undiscussed. Yeah, we're we're we're gonna do
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  it for as long as we can. Yes.
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  Travis looked up how many horror movies featuring Proms there
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  are, and he's like, it's not that many.
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  But then he listed the number and I was like, well, that at
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  least gets us through several more years of prom months, yeah.
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  So yeah, we just have to not talk about them until May.
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  We just have to resist the urge, which is admittedly hard for me
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  because I'm a sucker for a prom horror.
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  So yeah, but that's where we're at.
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  Announcements. Budget to your patrons.
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  Guess what? Y'all are giving us the big
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  bucks supporting the pod financially and one of your
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  perks is a monthly bonus episode.
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  And that came out this past weekend and it was another
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  commentary track because we have so much fun with them and we
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  decided if we have so much fun with commentary tracks, why not
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  have a commentary track about a movie that we also have so much
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  fun with? And guess what that is turn. 2.
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  Yeah, so be sure if you haven't already checked that out, to go
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  ahead and check it out. Yeah, I'm so happy about that.
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  Yeah, man, I love that movie so much.
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  It's so fun. Yeah.
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  And it it we just, you know, we were talking about what kind of
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  a bonus episode do we want to do.
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  And we're like we're we're feeling, feeling a commentary
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  and we've been talking a lot about hooting and hollering and
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  it just it it felt like the right, right one to do.
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  Yeah, it it makes sense. Yeah.
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  OK. So that's it for announcements I
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  believe. So I do believe so.
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  OK, so I got our poll results for last week's movie.
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  OK, we talked about scary movie, and it's simple.
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  This week we asked who was your favorite character.
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  Yeah, from the movie. Only four options.
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  So the choices were Shorty, Doofy, Brenda or Cindy.
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  OK. All right.
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  Over on Instagram, nobody chose Shorty.
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  Oh. 22% Doofy, 67 Brenda, Hell yeah, 11% Cindy.
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  And over on Twitter, 40% Shorty, 20% Doofy, 40% Brenda.
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  And 0 for Cindy. Dang.
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  Yeah, Brenda's the clear Winder. Yeah.
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  Winner. She's the Winder in my heart
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  too. It's OK you didn't stuttle
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  before we got. Man, I'm, I've been clubbing my
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  words. And does other things good too.
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  Yeah, that's that's why I do a podcast.
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  Yeah, because so it works so well.
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  I'm kind of shocked that Cindy is the least loved character out
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  of. Listen, we put her up against
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  Brenda and Shorty. And Doofy.
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  And Doofy. Doofy's probably the most
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  memorable from that movie. My choice though, is Shorty.
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  Shorty's the best fucking character.
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  Mine is Brenda, followed very closely by Shorty.
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  Yeah, Shorty is his fucking laugh.
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  Kills me every single time he's so.
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  Funny we were doing kind of like how you get caught up doing your
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  Seth Rogen laugh the last night we were caught up trying to do
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  our. I'm not even going to try to
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  send that on air. I'm not going to embarrass
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  myself any more than I already am today.
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  No, I've already done a lot of vocal stuff today and we still
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  have two episode records. So yeah, that's.
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  True. All right, so that's it for the
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  poll. Yep.
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  All right, so time to kick off prom month.
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  Time to kick off Prom night, Prom month.
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  OK, Hello Mary Lou Prom Night 2 released October 16th, 1987 in
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  the US. We watched it on DVD.
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  Holla at Your Half Price Books. We found a horror movie
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  collection called Scream Queens and it features Prom Night and
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  Prom Night 2. I think Prom night 2 is kind of
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  a rare find. Yeah.
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  I don't know about the DVD. I don't think that there was
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  ever a Blu-ray produced of it. Yeah.
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  And it just, it was one of those that we saw it and immediately
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  had to have it because I a spoiler for the discussion.
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  I adore this movie. So, and I'm pretty sure I
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  mentioned it last year too when we were talking about The First
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  Prom. Yeah, yeah, this is.
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  We haven't seen the others because there's a three and a
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  four. We've seen the remake.
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  Yeah, I haven't seen the remake in many years.
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  Yeah, it's a lot. I I remember watching it in a
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  dorm room. So yeah, it's it's a while.
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  Yeah, it was a while back, yeah. Written by Ron.
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  Oh oh, I just skipped over some stuff if you want to watch it as
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  of the end of April, so who knows how it changed.
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  But I don't think it changed too much because it's on a ton of
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  the free streaming services basically anywhere.
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  Tubi, Peacock, Pluto TV, Sling TV, Fandango at Home, Crackle,
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  Red Box, Plex Prime Free V, Fubo TV, AM C Plus, Philo YouTube
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  Premium, and YouTube TV Premium. You can also run it from Google
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  Play. If you want to, I guess.
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  If you want. If you absolutely have to pay
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  for it, you can do. That, yeah.
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  So, I mean, there you go. It's one of our most watchable
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  movies. Seriously, that's ridiculous.
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  I I almost told you to just take a screenshot.
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  Yeah, I pulled. Well, 'cause I have to, I always
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  type it up to put on. Our social media.
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  For people to watch and I I did contemplate during a screenshot
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  and overlaying it on the actual poster, but I didn't.
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  But that's the that's a good problem to have right there.
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  Too many places. This is to watch it.
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  Yeah, so if you weren't aware that this movie existed,
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  definitely do yourself a favor and go watch it.
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  It has nothing to do with the first one, and that's absolutely
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  fine. And for our mutant fan or people
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  who have not really watched any Joe Bob, there is a Joe Bob
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  episode. So it's a really good episode.
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  Season 2 finale. I think season one, season one
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  finale. Yeah, it's technically season
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  one, but it's listed as season 2.
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  Because. Because the marathon.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  That's why I got confused. I was like, no, I remember it
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  being season two. Yeah, Marathon's counted as
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  season one on Shutter. Yeah, Season 2, which is the
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  first, like, regular season that Joe Bob did for Shutter.
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  This was the finale. Yeah.
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  So. So, I mean, that's always a good
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  time. Yeah.
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  Yeah, we actually, we watched the just Joe Bob version of it
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  right before coming in. So we're we're primed.
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  And we've got John Brennan's sweet Jersey voice in our heads.
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  OK. Written by Ron Oliver.
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  Directed by Bruce Pittman, Music by Paul Zazzo and special
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  effects makeup by Darwin Madly Starring Michael Ironsign as
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  Bill Nordum, Wendy Lyon as Vicky Carpenter.
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  Lewis Ferreira as Justin Lewis as Craig Nordum, Lisa Schrage as
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  Mary Lou Maloney, and Richard Manette as Father Cooper Travis.
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  Yes, it's time for our favorite game budget.
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  Oh, bug Ted. Do you have the budget?
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  I do. Awesome, I think.
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  It's in Canadian though. It's a Canadian movie, so.
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  Yeah. I don't have the US conversion
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  because I didn't want to do Canadian to US And then 2024 to
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  1987, that was too much math for you to do well.
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  I would say, even by Canadian standards that this is going to
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  be bug Ted. And I know that they get some
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  pretty good tax breaks up there too.
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  This is bug. Ted, OK, yes, 2.5 million
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  Canadian. That makes sense.
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  Opening box office was 911,000 and a worldwide girth of 2.6 US
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  million. IMDb score of 5.7 out of 10.
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  That's Switch. Whoa.
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  I'm honestly, I'm surprised just because I feel like this isn't a
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  movie that you hear talked about a lot.
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  So I'm cautiously optimistic about the score.
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  Yeah, you know what? That's optimistic.
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  Probably isn't the right word, but whatever.
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  Pleased. Yeah, I guess I'm happy with
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  that. Yeah, that's pretty solid for a
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  horror movie, especially like a cheesy 80s one.
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  I'm really excited about the theme.
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  Now would you get something good?
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  Well cuz I did go with sequels again, but this is sequels.
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  It was a tenuous relation to the first movie in the frame.
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  I love that. Is there really that many in
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  this this year? There is.
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  There were also some of our, like, favorites here on the
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  show, including Doom, Asylum, and Video violence.
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  Yeah, but I I saw enough of these that I was like, that's a
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  fun, fun thing to go. With.
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  That's great. Yeah, I'm excited for this.
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  I have no idea. What these are gonna be either?
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  So the first one is Slumber Party Massacre 2.
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  OK. Which the connecting thread is
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  slumber parties and also the main character who was played by
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  a completely different actress and looks nothing like the
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  little sister in the first one. Yeah, they make an attempt to
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  connect them, but really I don't feel any connection between
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  those two movies at. All, yeah.
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  And it also went from like a more grounded to a more fantasy
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  take. Yeah, yeah, what the hell.
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  That released on the same day, October 16th.
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  I don't have a budget or a gross for this, but I was kind of
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  disappointed cuz I was like yeah I can finally get budget and
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  ghost for this cuz we covered it before we started regularly
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  adding that. Yeah, but yeah, and it's got a
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  very rude IMDb score of 4.7. That's actually kinda higher
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  than I was thinking. See.
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  Like, we like it because we know that it's stupid.
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  You know what? I.
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  Mean like. A lot of people probably watch
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  that movie and think this fucking guy got a guitar and
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  he's just dancing around. OK, the second one, Evil Dead 2.
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  OK. Which is it basically redoes the
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  first one bit differently. Yeah, it's pretty much a remake.
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  Don't come at me. I'm not calling it a bad movie.
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  I'm just saying when you watch the first one and then watch the
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  second one, it doesn't feel like a sequel.
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  No, you can just watch the second one and pretty much be
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  good. Yeah, except not because it's
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  different. Yeah, the first one's great too.
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  I love the. First one, Yeah, the first one.
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  I remember the first time watching it.
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  I distinctly I can picture myself sitting on the couch, the
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  TV's in the quarter, and I see one of the dead eyes laughing.
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  And I looked at my mom and I was like, is this real?
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  It's so great, people think the first one's not serious well.
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  People are wrong. I feel like it's pretty serious.
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  OK, so that released March 13th, 1987, Tom's birthday, a budget
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  of 3.6 million and a worldwide gross of 5.9 million.
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  Nice. And an IMDb score of 7.7 out of
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  10. Yeah, that's really high up
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  there. That deserves it too.
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  Yeah, that's a really good movie.
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  And the third one is the one that you haven't seen but you're
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  very excited to see. I haven't seen it and I'm
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  excited to see it. Yeah, for all the wrong reasons.
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  For all the right reasons, depending on who you are.
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  It's the right reasons in our house.
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  What is it? Jaws the Revenge.
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  Yeah. Wait, which one?
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  That's four, right? Yeah, that's the one with
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  Michael Carr. There you go, Michael.
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  Carr I feel like my Michael Caine's getting pretty better.
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  Look at that. That's my good talking right
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  there. Getting pretty better.
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  Y'all. God damn.
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  It so that released July 17th, 1987, a budget of 23 million and
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  a worldwide gross of 51 million I.
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  Can't wait until we work our way up all the way to Santa Jaws.
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  ITV 3 point O. Oh, I was getting questions.
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  I was gonna guess upper twos. OK, wow.
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  Yeah, that sounds awesome. I can't wait for that.
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  That's gonna be great. Yeah, I don't.
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  I don't wanna spoil anything for you about it.
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  Do you remember? Much.
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  I've only seen it one time, but certain details of that just get
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  like burned in your memory. Yeah, I I can imagine.
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  OK, I have lots of tag lines. Awesome.
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  Many tag lines many times. This movie's primed for plenty
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  of tag lines. It's perfect.
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  It's like, there's so many things that you can do, like the
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  easy cheesy pun with and this is the type of movie that you do an
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  easy cheesy pun with. Yeah, for sure.
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  OK, Mary Lou wants to be prom queen, even if it kills her
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  again. I like that one.
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  That's a really good one. First I was like OK and then
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  again I was. Like, I like that.
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  Yeah, Mary Lou is back. God help the students of
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  Hamilton High. Yeah, that's not too bad.
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  Yeah, she is kind of a menace. An old flame returns.
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  I kind of like that because, like, it's the old flame of
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  Michael Ironside. But also she died it'd.
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  Be great if she came back and she was still on fire though,
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  like. Like, suddenly that's how you
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  know when Vicki's possessed. Because like, hey, Vicki, you're
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  on fire. She goes.
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  That's fine. Yeah, it started with Prom night
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  1957. Now it's happening again.
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  OK, yeah, that one's just meh, whatever.
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  She's dying to get even. She's already dead.
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  Yeah. She she's getting even, 'cause
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  she died. Yeah, yeah.
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  Vengeance never rests in peace. That one's pretty good.
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  Yeah, that one sounds too bad. And so I can't hear rest in
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  peace without, like, hearing Spike in my head going rest in
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  peace. OK, it's prom night 1957.
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  Oh no, I will deny. It's prom night 1957.
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  I couldn't. I couldn't read what that word
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  was. Oh, OK.
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  I. Wish that that's what it was.
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  I would have ordered it out of the winter just for like having
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  the guts to go there. It's.
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  Prom night 1957 at Hamilton High.
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  OK, OK. Finally, in 1957, Mary Lou
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  Maloney went up in flames. Now she's back.
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  And she's burning Med. Oh, OK.
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  Is that it? Yes.
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  I I thought for sure one of them was gonna be.
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  It's not who you come with, it's who you go home with.
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  I know. Which if you guys didn't listen
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  to last year's prom month, I mean, no judgement, but you
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  probably should because it was a good time.
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  But that line is used in all of the prom night movies.
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  It's not who you come with, it's who you go home with.
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  I. Love that line.
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  It's so good. OK, so I've got a few fun facts.
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  Not as many fun facts as I was hoping to, especially having
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  watched the Just Joe Bob. It was more like facts about
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  like music and Ron Oliver. So.
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  Ron Oliver Is that the? The.
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  Writer OK, OK, well, that's so interesting stuff.
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  The original title was The Haunting of Hamilton High, which
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  actually if you like Google search 1987 horror movies, you
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  will see the poster with Vicki's face and it says that it says
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  The Haunting of Hamilton High. So they must have went pretty
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  far with that. Yeah, they at least did on mock
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  up of a poster. I feel like they probably just
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  needed, they wanted to market it as something different.
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  They're like, whoa, let's just put in a franchise That way it
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  has something going for. It yeah, it kind of feels like
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  how fall break God, I can't even remember.
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  What The Mutilator? Thank you.
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  I just call it fall break so often.
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  Clearly that was for a long time meant to be fall break.
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  Yeah, they have a song and everything.
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  I think that they went a little bit too far with that one
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  though, cuz like everything in that they have a whole fucking
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  song. And like, the title card in that
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  movie is Fall Break, and they're like, oh, it's called The
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  Mutilator like. Really.
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  Are you sure? But yeah, so this movie ended up
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  being renamed for the Ricky Nelson song and then kind of
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  attached to the Prom night legacy to, you know, the classic
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  story of how do we get people interested in this.
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  Yeah, but I do think it's fun because this is Ron Oliver's
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  first script or his first feature length script, I think
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  is what he was saying. That's pretty impressive.
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  And he's a big horror fan. So there are 9 characters that
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  are named after horror directors and he ended up going on to
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  write and direct Prom Night Three.
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  He originally was planning to have continuity from 2:00 to
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  3:00, but Michael Ironside didn't come back for three.
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  We do get a return of Mary Lou, though.
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  Yeah. And also Josh.
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  He's and Josh. Yeah.
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  Josh Brock, who plays? No.
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  Josh is the character. No.
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  Josh Is the character same? Yeah.
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  Oh, is it OK? Yeah.
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  Brock something. Hold on.
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  Let me let me just pull it up real quick, cuz he's in all of
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  them too, and I think that's really interesting.
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  You said he was young Nick in the.
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  First, yeah, he was young Nick in the first one.
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  I think he plays a different character and each one kind of
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  like catch it. Yeah, cuz he died in this one,
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  so he's definitely not the same character.
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  Brock Simpson? Brock Simpson?
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  Yeah, that's. The actor's name.
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  Yes, that's the actor's name. So he's Young Nick in the first
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  one. In the fourth one, he's Father
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  Cooper. Whoa. 4th one, Yeah.
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  So so they do keep some continuity.
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  They they do. And he's Larry in the third one.
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  Interesting hope. He's Leisure Suit Larry.
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  God, I forgot all about those. I feel like that you don't need
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  Michael Ironside for the sequel though.
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  I mean, recast. It's totally cool.
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  People do that all the time, especially in horror.
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  Nobody gives that. Much.
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  I mean that's also a hatchet thing to recast the the lead.
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  And also a hatchet thing is using the same guy as different
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  characters. Yeah, that's what I was saying
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  with Brock Simpson. He's, yeah, yeah.
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  That's funny, yeah. Yeah, so they they did have some
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  types, but it didn't follow the original story that they had
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  planned. Jim Doyle did some of the
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  special effects specifically like the the chalkboard scene
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  when the hands come out and they get Vicky.
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  So that scene, even though it's a 46 second shot, took five days
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  to film and cost approximately $2000 per hour.
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  Holy shit yeah and he like they did.
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  You know, some forced perspectives type stuff and
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  actually the chalkboard was like on the ground and everything to.
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  She gets like sucked into it too.
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  Right, Yeah. Yeah, it's a pretty impressive.
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  It's like the whole chalk zone type deal right there.
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  Yeah, that's that's what I thought of with it.
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  It was like a combination of chalk zone and which Nightmare
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  on Elm Street is it. Is it four or five where they've
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  got like the so runaway students and they go to the town that?
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  That is. Hates Frederick.
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  Five. Yeah, that's five.
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  Yeah, that that franchise. I know we've covered the the
• 19:29
  series and we've watched it plenty of times together, but I
• 19:31
  still have to like describe what the what the individual movies
• 19:35
  are. I just don't remember that you
• 19:36
  were calling Frederick. It's almost as we've talked
• 19:39
  about those. And then finally I have one more
• 19:42
  fun fact which at the time of its release, this movie had the
• 19:45
  longest human burn in cinema, which was 6 seconds for the
• 19:49
  stunt woman playing Mary Lou at the beginning of the movie.
• 19:52
  Could have been longer if, you know they brought her back on
• 19:54
  Firestone. Really.
• 19:56
  Could have kept. Going I know, yeah, yeah, I I do
• 20:01
  recall the Firestone from watching it the other night.
• 20:04
  It is impressive. I can probably guess which movie
• 20:07
  it is. That broke the record though.
• 20:09
  OK. I'm pretty sure it's Freddy
• 20:11
  versus Jason because whenever he gets a lit on fire in the
• 20:15
  cornfield at the party. That's a that's a really long
• 20:18
  one. I feel like that's close to 20
• 20:20
  seconds. Yeah.
• 20:21
  I remember us watching the behind the scenes and like, we
• 20:24
  were nervous. What?
• 20:25
  Because it's so different when you're watching the movie,
• 20:27
  obviously. Like, you know, there's stunts
• 20:29
  happening, there's special effects and stuff happening.
• 20:30
  But then watching the behind the scenes and you're like, no, Oh
• 20:32
  my God, he's really on fire. Yeah, it's real fire.
• 20:35
  And like they're it's just like that suit that's protecting them
• 20:38
  and that isn't gonna last. Yeah, it's terrifying.
• 20:42
  And it's especially terrifying because even though it wasn't
• 20:45
  came hotter, that came back to play Jason in that movie, like
• 20:49
  knowing his history with like stunts gone bad with fires, like
• 20:53
  it was like extra kind of like scary.
• 20:55
  Yeah, it's those things are always they're impressive, but
• 20:59
  behind the scenes footage of those are always terrifying for
• 21:02
  me cuz they they always have to drop on the ground and then
• 21:04
  people have to like rush to them to go save their life real
• 21:06
  quick. It was like the same as with
• 21:09
  Terrifier 2, like seeing her like and she's like still just
• 21:13
  like playing her fucking ukulele.
• 21:14
  Like set her, put the put the fire extinguisher on her.
• 21:18
  Sorry, we're going a little bit off Sophie here, but I remember
• 21:20
  like the behind the scenes of Terrifier 2 when they were doing
• 21:22
  the Casey scene. And we were literally screaming
• 21:25
  at the TV. We were like put.
• 21:27
  It out. No.
• 21:27
  I just remember like the Casey scene, like where he's like
• 21:29
  dismembering her and all that stuff, like she was doing her
• 21:31
  scene and they cut. And I remember one of the guys
• 21:33
  in the background going, because you're OK Are you OK?
• 21:37
  Like, legitimately worry that she was hurt?
• 21:40
  Man. Gnarly stuff.
• 21:42
  Yeah. All right, cool.
• 21:43
  All. Right.
• 21:43
  So Are you ready to talk about our good but ugly and absurd?
• 21:48
  Yes, I am OK, but not because I forgot to grab my sheets and
• 21:52
  here we go. I got my sheet now.
• 21:54
  Sorry. Grab this.
• 21:55
  OK. That guy.
• 21:56
  That boy. I I end up with all right so the
• 22:01
  good for this movie. I like that it is more horror
• 22:06
  focused than the 1st. Definitely.
• 22:08
  Yeah, while also still having prom be a major focus too,
• 22:12
  because. Yes.
• 22:13
  Prom took the front seat in prom night and like the killing and
• 22:18
  the horror and this, you know, all that stuff, it really was
• 22:21
  just kind of like an afterthought.
• 22:23
  It felt like, but this summer on I felt like they really leaned
• 22:25
  into it. I like that they went a
• 22:29
  completely different direction with it.
• 22:30
  I know it was not intended to be a sequel from the get go, but I
• 22:35
  like going another direction, like going straight up
• 22:38
  supernatural with it. And you know, like, I like when
• 22:42
  you can do spiritual sequels like that because you know, you
• 22:44
  can just keep making this shit and as long as you have like a
• 22:47
  common thread throughout like it, it still feels like it's the
• 22:51
  same thing. Kind of like the original
• 22:53
  thought for the Halloween franchise, you know, not being
• 22:56
  Michael Myers based. Yeah, I but they dropped the
• 22:59
  ball. See, they they did it in the
• 23:01
  third movie. They should have.
• 23:02
  If they did it in the second, it would have been fine.
• 23:04
  That wasn't, You know damn well that wasn't John Carpenter's
• 23:08
  decision. Give a shit.
• 23:09
  He he still agreed to it. That's his he still takes
• 23:12
  responsibility for. That.
• 23:15
  Yeah, I mean, this movie is, it's just like, I don't know,
• 23:20
  it's just kind of quintessential 80s cheese horror.
• 23:24
  Yeah. And I I just like have a great
• 23:25
  time with it. Like the characters are great.
• 23:27
  I like having this 50s era character in the 80s and how
• 23:31
  it's just so out of place with her.
• 23:33
  She's always like cracking these 50s quips.
• 23:36
  Like see you later, alligator. I felt kind of called out
• 23:41
  because we were playing a drinking game with it while we
• 23:43
  were watching it, and it's a drink to the 50s sayings and
• 23:46
  every time you're like you got a drink.
• 23:47
  I, like, never picked up on it because it's shit that I say.
• 23:52
  Maybe you're possessed, Jesse. Did you open any chess in your
• 23:56
  high school's proper? I don't believe that that's any
• 23:58
  of your business. I think it is at this point,
• 24:01
  since we're living together. Yeah.
• 24:04
  I mean, I just, I really enjoy this movie.
• 24:06
  I like it a lot more than the first one.
• 24:08
  I like the first one. I mean, the first one's a
• 24:09
  slasher, and, like, on paper it should be exactly what I like.
• 24:14
  But for some reason, the Supernatural wins this time for
• 24:17
  me. It's just a lot of fun.
• 24:18
  All right, this is exactly what I like for just like a fun
• 24:24
  horror movie, you know? It doesn't take itself too
• 24:26
  seriously. It's got some real gnarly
• 24:29
  moments. It's got some tense moments,
• 24:30
  like Jess Jess's death scene, that's pretty like, you know it
• 24:35
  it that Jess's death scene walked so every final
• 24:40
  destination death scene could run.
• 24:44
  You know, like the fake out, like that, the paper cutting
• 24:47
  fake out. I see The thing is with that.
• 24:49
  One though set the stage. I feel like that was more of a
• 24:51
  tease, like, hey, we could have done this, but now we're going
• 24:54
  to do this instead. Well, Joe Bob posits that it's
• 24:57
  classic for meddling. This is gonna be really
• 25:00
  expensive cuz you notice there's not a ton of special effects
• 25:03
  makeup work done. No, I think they blow their
• 25:06
  special effects budget, I would guess.
• 25:08
  On the actual visual special effects.
• 25:11
  Yeah, on the chalkboard thing like you were talking about,
• 25:13
  that was probably a big chunk of it.
• 25:14
  And also the ending where she kind of goes full carry.
• 25:18
  Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's the other thing
• 25:19
  that I like about this movie too, because it is written by
• 25:22
  like a horror nerd. Like, and I love that the
• 25:25
  homages and references are very blatant in such a way that
• 25:28
  you're not like, oh, they're not ripping it off.
• 25:29
  They're just being like, I love these movies.
• 25:32
  Yeah, like because you do have Carrie, you've got Exorcist,
• 25:35
  you've got Nightmare on Elm Street, you've got like, all of
• 25:37
  the classics are thrown in there and we're just having a good
• 25:40
  time. We just have teens that are
• 25:41
  being angsty and jealous to the point of murder and that what
• 25:45
  more do you want in a horror movie?
• 25:47
  Yeah, that's true. Yeah, he was telling a story
• 25:50
  about Ron Oliver contacting Wes Craven to get some advice while
• 25:54
  he was working on Prom Night 3. And Wes Craven says, give him a
• 25:57
  scare. Give him a boner, send him home,
• 26:00
  in that order. Fucking Wes Craven, man.
• 26:03
  I like his whole thing where like there's a kid that the
• 26:07
  reason he made Scream, he's like, I wish he would make scary
• 26:09
  movies again. He's like what the fuck he's
• 26:13
  like? God, he's like.
• 26:15
  Never watched movies until I was in college and I came out the
• 26:19
  gate with Last House on the Left.
• 26:21
  And you dare say that to me? It's just like a boy.
• 26:24
  Like a kid comes up as like, yeah, you should make scary
• 26:26
  movies again. Dude, kids are brutal.
• 26:30
  I remember our first scare fest when we were dressed as
• 26:32
  Ghostface and Casey and this like 7 year old comes up to me
• 26:35
  and goes you're supposed to be dead like OK.
• 26:39
  I mean, I can't argue. You were right.
• 26:43
  But fuck you for saying it. OK, but yeah, this is it's just,
• 26:48
  it's a fun movie. It doesn't waste any time on
• 26:51
  anything silly. Yeah, like, I mean, there may be
• 26:55
  a couple of lingering shots, but it it's a nice tight 97 minutes
• 27:00
  and 7 minutes of that is credits.
• 27:02
  Yeah, for sure. It's just it's fun.
• 27:04
  Yeah, it's fun. Straight up.
• 27:06
  OK, so bad stuff. Yeah, for your bad.
• 27:09
  I didn't have anything written down from a bad because I
• 27:12
  struggled to think of bad things watching this movie.
• 27:15
  I guess I have one cool. The only thing I can say is that
• 27:21
  it's not exactly super scary for me.
• 27:24
  OK? I just feel like it's more of a
• 27:26
  popcorn horror flick, which is cool.
• 27:28
  I love this too. But I also like to be scared.
• 27:32
  But I I don't feel like this was ever going to be a scary movie.
• 27:35
  What's your bad? No. 3 minute disco dance scene?
• 27:40
  No. You're right.
• 27:42
  I wish. That I think that needs to be a
• 27:44
  staple of every prom night movie.
• 27:47
  They did. I have friend down for my absurd
• 27:50
  have one of the extended songs. I remember that was one of the
• 27:53
  things that we talked about in Prom nights.
• 27:55
  So they did have that going for it at least.
• 27:57
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:59
  I mean, for real. I really.
• 28:01
  I can't think too much about it. OK.
• 28:05
  Yeah. I mean, that sucks.
• 28:07
  I wish that there was something I could say that I didn't like
• 28:10
  about it. OK.
• 28:12
  Do you have anything? I already said No 3.
• 28:15
  Minutes. Is that it though?
• 28:16
  OK, no, I wish. No, never mind.
• 28:20
  They do straight up have milk on the table.
• 28:22
  I want, yeah, The mom. The psychopathic missus.
• 28:28
  White wannabe. Yeah.
• 28:29
  Drinking her gallon of milk. She's.
• 28:30
  Straight up dinner carries Mom. Yeah, OK, well, I guess that's a
• 28:35
  good segue into the ugly, because I feel like she is a a
• 28:40
  pretty ugly character in this. She's a controlling mother using
• 28:44
  religion to hold her house down like that.
• 28:47
  And her dad is like he seems nice at first, but then he goes
• 28:52
  over there and kind of doesn't have any issues kissing his
• 28:54
  daughter and what the fuck? Yeah, so that's a gross scene
• 29:00
  because Vicky possessed by Mary Lou.
• 29:04
  So Mary Lou kisses Vicky's dad. Yeah, and Vicky's dad doesn't
• 29:09
  say no. And then Vicky's mom comes in
• 29:12
  and calls Vicky a harlot and a Jezebel and kicks her out of the
• 29:17
  house. Chases her out.
• 29:19
  Yeah, but not before she gets Margaret Whited.
• 29:21
  Yeah, he couldn't help, but he's just a man, you know?
• 29:24
  Gross. Yeah, gross.
• 29:26
  I'm just, I'm just trying to apply her a logic.
• 29:29
  Probably. She's like, yeah, well, he's
• 29:31
  probably, He's a fucking pig anyways.
• 29:33
  Yeah, so that's that's my ugly as well.
• 29:36
  OK. I would agree with that.
• 29:37
  I guess I would also say Josh and his sexual coercion.
• 29:43
  Of Kelly. Yeah.
• 29:45
  I I felt bad for her. Like, she, she's a mean person
• 29:49
  in this movie. And like, she did that and
• 29:52
  didn't get what? Like at the end I was like, you
• 29:54
  know what? Like I kind of that's gotta be
• 29:57
  like a low, that's a rock bottom you hit right there.
• 29:59
  Yeah, I mean, it's just it's bad.
• 30:01
  And like, even a bitchy character like that, you don't
• 30:04
  want to see somebody be sexually coerced in that kind of a way.
• 30:07
  No, it's just not cool, OK? You're absurd.
• 30:11
  OK, absurd. So I got Tutti Frutti is a song
• 30:17
  that plays absurdly along at the prom because it's at the very
• 30:21
  beginning. That's where they are.
• 30:25
  That's the first song we get whenever they're getting punch.
• 30:27
  And then she goes backstage with Cooper and they start making
• 30:30
  out, and then he goes back there to confront them.
• 30:32
  And then by the time they get back out, Tutti Frutti's still
• 30:35
  playing and people are still bugging.
• 30:36
  It must be the live version, you know.
• 30:38
  I don't know, Little Richard just going.
• 30:39
  Forward I guess for a long time I got a prom is prime for overly
• 30:45
  Christian mothers and horror because they got the Carrie mom
• 30:49
  in this right here and also Einstein themed prom.
• 30:54
  Oh my God what the fuck was up with them?
• 30:55
  Like having an like they just like on the wall wrote E equals
• 30:59
  MC Square. And then there's like a big
• 31:01
  picture of Albert Einstein in Josh's room too when he's like
• 31:06
  doing that. Yeah, I don't.
• 31:07
  I don't get the school's obsession with Einstein.
• 31:10
  Yeah, all right. Those are my absurds.
• 31:13
  My absurd is how very like Disney Princess Vicki and Craig
• 31:17
  arcs. They're both like, I'm 18,
• 31:21
  father, I'm an adult. I don't have to do what you say
• 31:25
  cuz I mean yeah, they technically they are legally
• 31:29
  they're adults, but your brain is still juicing itself together
• 31:33
  and you've not lived outside of your repressive household.
• 31:36
  And yeah, I agree that they need to get away and live their own
• 31:39
  lives and do their own things and college isn't the correct
• 31:41
  path for everyone. I just any time I see a 17 year
• 31:45
  old being like I'm an adult. I don't know.
• 31:48
  I feel like we need to like because that argument goes in,
• 31:52
  it's inconsistent. Like 18 year old enough to go to
• 31:54
  the fucking army and you know. Fight well and I think that's
• 31:57
  kind of. Fucked up too, honestly.
• 31:58
  But like, you know, it's just so many weird things, like, whoa,
• 32:02
  you're still a kid, but then at the same time you're also an
• 32:04
  adult and expected to be an adult.
• 32:06
  And it's so it's such a weird time.
• 32:08
  And I think for me, The thing is that we place it so much on age
• 32:12
  where it's like really, it's more about, like life
• 32:15
  experience. And you're suddenly expected to
• 32:18
  go from being like living in your parents house, like
• 32:23
  sheltered in a way from like the real world.
• 32:25
  Yeah, if you will. And then you have to have your
• 32:27
  entire life mapped out and figured out in the next 40 years
• 32:31
  planned and ready to go. And you aren't allowed to be
• 32:35
  stressed about it at all because it's like, oh, well, you're an
• 32:37
  adult now and you you still have to learn like I we need a phrase
• 32:43
  for that period between being a teenager and being an adult
• 32:46
  adult, you know what I mean? And people have different life
• 32:49
  experiences and they go through different things and we all
• 32:51
  reach that, like level of independence differently and at
• 32:56
  different rates. But I just, again, like these
• 33:00
  two kids, especially where they've been in very like,
• 33:04
  sheltered households, like. And I'm not saying sheltered
• 33:07
  isn't they were pampered and spoiled, But just where they've
• 33:11
  only been dealing with their families, thinking that they're
• 33:15
  adults in a way that makes me sad for them.
• 33:18
  Because like life, were it not for a demonic ex prom queen
• 33:25
  possessing one of them, life would still probably smack them
• 33:29
  down. True, in a way.
• 33:30
  Although I do have a theory that Craig was contacted by a certain
• 33:37
  resident of Sawville to. Become a lawyer.
• 33:41
  Yeah, yeah. Maybe be a shady lawyer, I
• 33:44
  think. He probably put him through law
• 33:45
  school. He got the Kramer scholarship.
• 33:47
  Yeah, he put him through law school.
• 33:49
  He kind of Gustavo fringed him. He's like, you know what?
• 33:51
  I'm gonna do this for you, but you're gonna work for me.
• 33:54
  Which is great, because Louis Ferreira is not only in
• 33:58
  software, but he was also in Breaking Bad.
• 34:01
  Yeah. Oh my God, you're right.
• 34:02
  I forgot about that. That keeps surprising.
• 34:05
  Me. Yeah.
• 34:06
  He's a returnee to the show. Yeah, he's art, by the way.
• 34:10
  Yeah. And saw.
• 34:11
  Yeah. OK, so time to rate.
• 34:15
  Yep. All right.
• 34:16
  I really enjoy this movie. I had a great time with it.
• 34:19
  I think I'd give this A8. Eight.
• 34:25
  I was thinking 8 1/2. OK, so 8.25 for starting
• 34:29
  average. I could be convinced to join you
• 34:31
  up there. So we'll see what happens as we
• 34:33
  talk about. It.
• 34:34
  We'll see. OK, OK.
• 34:36
  Ready to do it? I'm ready all.
• 34:37
  Right. Let's go.
• 34:41
  I forgot what this note meant for a second.
• 34:44
  The very first thing I have written down is Grandpa's been
• 34:47
  here, and I am of course referring to Grandpa from The
• 34:50
  Lost. Boys.
• 34:51
  He has pensions for stuffing critters because there is some
• 34:56
  taxidermy up in this church or up in this backstage area.
• 35:01
  I don't understand that. Why would they have a taxidermy
• 35:03
  in a high school prop room? Because Grandpa's been here, I
• 35:09
  don't know what you want me to say.
• 35:10
  When did the Lost Boys come out? Maybe they're doing like their
• 35:12
  live this year. Yeah, maybe.
• 35:14
  They're like, it's like high and everybody's like, let's do a
• 35:17
  play of Lost Boys. I mean, maybe, maybe it could
• 35:20
  be, yeah. Then we get to an outside shot
• 35:24
  at the church. It's raining.
• 35:25
  A woman runs in in her cloak. She does her confession.
• 35:28
  And as she's doing her confession, it's the same that
• 35:31
  we opened the show with. She writes for a good time
• 35:33
  called Mary Lou. Yeah, we cut to the 1957 prom.
• 35:38
  Mary Lou Maloney is with Bill Nordum, who is balding at 18,
• 35:43
  which is definitely possible but also unfortunate.
• 35:46
  There's one at my school that did it.
• 35:48
  Yeah, he he was bald in high school.
• 35:50
  He gets her ring with her initials on it.
• 35:53
  I I kind of like her ring, honestly.
• 35:56
  And he goes to get her punch and when he gets back, she's she's
• 36:00
  gone. It's 'cause she went backstage
• 36:02
  with Cooper cause he gets to the table, he's got his little
• 36:08
  glasses and some other guy comes back and he was like, Oh yeah, I
• 36:11
  saw Mary Lee go backstage with Cooper once.
• 36:12
  You guys break up anyway and he goes, we did it.
• 36:16
  Cooper had it again. So Billy, bust them up and he's
• 36:22
  like, we've been pinned for a year and you've never done this
• 36:25
  much. And literally all they were
• 36:26
  doing was making out and she was touching Cooper's Wiener over
• 36:28
  the pants. He was grabbing her booty pretty
• 36:32
  well there too, so that's a pretty significant step I would
• 36:36
  say. I mean, I feel like.
• 36:39
  All she was. Doing would have let Bill do it.
• 36:42
  I know she's like, he asks like why are you with him anyways?
• 36:45
  And she's like, she's rich and yeah, like he's got like a nice
• 36:50
  parents. Yes.
• 36:52
  Like, I don't know, like he's a square, like.
• 36:56
  And then she he's like you came to the prom with me and she
• 36:59
  goes, it's not who you come with, it's who you go home with.
• 37:02
  So Billy goes to the bathroom where all high school deals are
• 37:05
  done for the broken hearted and Eagleson opens up his his stall
• 37:13
  and provides Billy with the stink bomb.
• 37:15
  Stink bomb. That's nice.
• 37:16
  You know, that definitely feels like the place to go get the
• 37:19
  stink bomb right there. And also this is like the place
• 37:21
  where the principal comes in to give you advice for some reason.
• 37:24
  Or where the principal maybe has taken one too many shots out of
• 37:28
  his hip flask and I was like, I hate rock'n'roll.
• 37:30
  Music. It will never last.
• 37:32
  I like that. That was.
• 37:33
  Funny, I love this principle. Serves no purpose other than to
• 37:36
  come in and be like kids these days and then walks.
• 37:40
  Away. That really isn't.
• 37:41
  He doesn't even, like say anything to reassure Billy is
• 37:44
  like, did your girl leave you? Yeah, there's rock'n'roll.
• 37:47
  That was pretty shitty. Yeah, Tutti, Fruity or some
• 37:49
  shit. Not having it.
• 37:53
  All right, so they do the announcement for who wins prom.
• 37:56
  Queen Mary Lou wins. Yeah, Billy takes it upon
• 37:59
  himself to go up. And what I had in question marks
• 38:02
  the rafters. Is that a rafter?
• 38:05
  What would you call that? So I'm not entirely sure what
• 38:07
  upper stage. So no, it's not an upper stage.
• 38:09
  It's definitely like something that they use probably to help
• 38:12
  with, like props and stuff. Every place that I've ever done
• 38:15
  any acting or dancing or whatever type of performance
• 38:19
  with has not had that particular type of walkway type thing.
• 38:24
  I guess Rafter would probably be the right.
• 38:26
  Terminology. Yeah, it seems like it would be
• 38:29
  something for a high budget school.
• 38:31
  Yeah, so. I mean, this school clearly
• 38:33
  values its theater department. Yeah, for sure.
• 38:36
  Yeah, they fucking. Taxidermy.
• 38:37
  Yeah, they taxidermy it. That's where they bury the
• 38:40
  remains of their students like. That's where they store all the
• 38:43
  souls of the dead people. So I mean Hamilton High, That's
• 38:48
  where Hamilton ends up being written.
• 38:51
  Lin Manuel Miranda went to Hamilton High, where he got the
• 38:55
  idea God damn something. Here Billy is not having any of
• 39:00
  it though. He goes up into the rafters and
• 39:02
  he's gonna drop a stink bomb to ruin the whole announcement for
• 39:06
  Mary Lou. Yeah.
• 39:07
  Does he know that they are he? Didn't even have to drop the
• 39:09
  stink bomb because the whole point of a stink bomb is it
• 39:11
  stinks up a room I. Think he overthought this?
• 39:14
  And well, I'd argue that he underthought it because he
• 39:17
  dropped something with a live fire onto his girlfriend.
• 39:22
  Yeah, and this is in the 50s and there wasn't a lot of regulation
• 39:25
  on how shit was made, so nobody gave a shit if clothing was
• 39:29
  flammable or not. God damn, that was fucking
• 39:32
  flammable, she clothing. Right there she went up, Ben
• 39:36
  Tramer style. Ben Tramer wishes he could get
• 39:39
  this kind of combustion without high speed collisions.
• 39:42
  Yeah, boy. Man, but this is where we get
• 39:45
  the sick, like, actual burning stunt that goes on and then it
• 39:50
  looks really good. They do a good.
• 39:51
  Job what they hear. And she, as she's burning to
• 39:54
  death, looks up and sees Billy in the rafters.
• 39:56
  So she knows it was him. Oh yeah.
• 39:58
  And I just so everybody's reacting like Billy is begging
• 40:02
  for somebody to help. My favorite is Cooper by the
• 40:06
  stairs of the stage. He doesn't even make it up the
• 40:10
  stairs. He drops at the bottom of the
• 40:11
  stairs and dramatically pounds. Come on, dude.
• 40:15
  Like she's still alive. Yeah, she's burning for at least
• 40:20
  6 seconds. You can get up the stairs that
• 40:22
  quickly. Some fear burns, and she
• 40:24
  probably has some like lung damage too, because that's one
• 40:27
  of the biggest things of lighting on fire like that.
• 40:30
  I feel like a lot of people are like, Oh no, not Mary Lou.
• 40:33
  She's so sweet and kind. Nobody really wanted to help
• 40:36
  her. They all just kind of like, fuck
• 40:38
  her. Yeah, she's kind of mean
• 40:39
  anyways. So we cut to present day, which
• 40:43
  for this movie was 1987. A family is praying at breakfast
• 40:47
  time. Super Christian Breakfast is
• 40:49
  what? Which that's that's a good band
• 40:50
  name. Super Christian Breakfast.
• 40:52
  Oh my God. Alright.
• 40:54
  Nobody steal it, please, OK? Just the first.
• 40:56
  The first album is like Egos with Satan.
• 40:59
  Oh yeah. She tells her parents that she's
• 41:02
  going to be late today. She's got to go pick up a new
• 41:04
  dress for prom. It's senior prom.
• 41:06
  It's really important. She wants to look really good.
• 41:08
  And I love how she says this very confidently.
• 41:11
  She just looks at her father. Of what?
• 41:13
  It's her mother's case and her mother is like, by the way, I
• 41:16
  sign all the checks in this house.
• 41:18
  I own every single one of you, and you will just wear your
• 41:21
  green dress again. It's fine.
• 41:23
  It's just prom. She says, with a full pitcher of
• 41:25
  milk on the table. Like she's just, she's saying it
• 41:29
  while she's pouring it into her mouth.
• 41:30
  Like she's practicing ventriloquism.
• 41:32
  Or something. Yeah, she's like.
• 41:33
  Yeah, you're fine with the green dress.
• 41:35
  Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm sure it's expensive, but, you know,
• 41:41
  like, let her have it. Let her, Yeah, just let her wear
• 41:44
  a different dress. Like I could get it if she was
• 41:46
  going to multiple Proms the same year.
• 41:47
  But fucking thrift it? Go to a thrift store.
• 41:51
  So Craig comes to pick her up and they stop at the diner where
• 41:55
  they have coffee. I guess this is their little
• 41:56
  morning ritual. Craig pours in a ton of sugar.
• 41:59
  Vicki drinks her coffee black. Feel that, And she has
• 42:03
  apparently been nominated for prom queen.
• 42:05
  And she has not told her parents because I'm sure that her mom
• 42:08
  would like lock her in the closet and make her pray if she
• 42:11
  found out that she was. I find it interesting that she
• 42:13
  got nominated because she doesn't really seem like a
• 42:15
  popular kid in school. Here.
• 42:18
  She's got her group of friends and nobody else really kind of
• 42:20
  talks to her. I'm imagining it's a world kind
• 42:22
  of like easy A or something or like the like Fellowship of
• 42:27
  Christian Athletes or whatever has like some of the popular
• 42:30
  kids in there. And so it's like, well, they're
• 42:32
  they're they're a cool Christian.
• 42:33
  Yeah, OK. I guess I could see.
• 42:35
  That, and Craig thinks she's a cool Christian too.
• 42:36
  And he gets her a new gold cross necklace to replace her very
• 42:40
  similar gold cross necklace. This one's got a little
• 42:42
  rhinestone in the middle, though, so yeah, you know.
• 42:45
  He did good, yeah. He did good and.
• 42:47
  She's like like, OK, we'll just wait till my mother hears about
• 42:51
  this, OK? I don't think that's your mom is
• 42:54
  an Ice Cream Babe. I don't think she's gonna.
• 42:56
  Be swayed by this did. You fuck him like.
• 42:59
  What the? Fuck he gave me in that course.
• 43:02
  OK, my next note is potato contraption Fells.
• 43:06
  Yeah, so Josh has like a fun little presentation about his
• 43:09
  potato. You know the whole like how it
• 43:11
  can conduct electricity and whatnot, except it explodes.
• 43:15
  While this is happening, Monica is talking about how she doesn't
• 43:18
  get a date and she's like, I'm a total babe, What's wrong with
• 43:21
  me? And one guy goes, hey Monica,
• 43:23
  can we talk after school? And she goes buzz off.
• 43:25
  She says get lost, asshole, and she looks over at Mary Lou.
• 43:28
  She's like, why don't guys ask me out?
• 43:29
  I love it. It's funny.
• 43:31
  Love it. Well, she's also talking about
• 43:33
  Josh up there. I think she's wanting to go with
• 43:35
  him. Yeah, but she like, thinks that
• 43:38
  he's beneath her, but also, she's weirdly attracted to him.
• 43:40
  Yeah, I mean, he's like part of their friend group, right?
• 43:43
  I think. I don't think so.
• 43:44
  I think he just is in classes with him.
• 43:47
  OK, I don't know. Yeah, I guess his relationship
• 43:50
  to these characters is kind of really loose.
• 43:51
  Yeah, so Bill Nordom is now the principal of Hamilton High.
• 43:55
  That's one way to address your trauma.
• 43:57
  He's also Craig's dad. Why would you want to go to the
• 44:00
  high school? Where did that happen and be the
• 44:04
  principal? I don't know.
• 44:06
  That's a terrible. Life decision.
• 44:09
  He calls Craig and he says you need to eat lunch and he's like,
• 44:11
  dad, it's 945, we've had one class and he's like, OK, well,
• 44:17
  I've got your dorm set up, you're going to be in this part
• 44:20
  of campus and I'm like, dude, you're not even going to let him
• 44:23
  pick his own dorm room? Yeah, you don't.
• 44:25
  Even let him. You're not letting him handle
• 44:27
  any of that. Did they?
• 44:29
  They didn't let me pick dorm rooms at college.
• 44:32
  Yeah, but like, still. It should have been like a thing
• 44:34
  where he was signing up for that shit himself, you know?
• 44:37
  Actually, I did. Eventually I got to pick
• 44:39
  McGregor, but I did in my first year.
• 44:42
  My first year, I was in the Honors Hall.
• 44:44
  Yeah, that was you. Had yours to sign for sure.
• 44:46
  Yeah. And they tried to tell me
• 44:47
  because I was like, up in one of the attic rooms and I had, you
• 44:51
  know, like the roof of the building was slanted, so my wall
• 44:56
  was slanted. And my RA tried to tell me that
• 44:59
  that's actually the ceiling, not the roof.
• 45:00
  So I wasn't allowed to have a poster there because we weren't
• 45:03
  allowed to hang items from the ceiling.
• 45:04
  And I'm like, it's literally 6 inches above my headboard.
• 45:09
  Yeah, that's really dumb. I never took it down.
• 45:11
  I only lived in that Dorma semester before I moved to the
• 45:14
  sorority floor. So, But yeah, so he's like, by
• 45:20
  the way, I'm not going to college.
• 45:22
  I'm going to take a gap year. I'm going to work.
• 45:25
  I don't know. Maybe I'll explore the trades.
• 45:27
  Maybe I'll sign up for the military.
• 45:29
  Maybe I'll just. I'll become a rock star.
• 45:32
  Who knows? Dad and Bill Norden flashes back
• 45:35
  to his own principal, talking about how rock'n'roll is a fad
• 45:39
  that won't last. Yeah, I maybe.
• 45:44
  That's why he's the principal at the school.
• 45:46
  Maybe that principal really had an impact on him and he's like,
• 45:49
  I want to drunkenly talk to a distraught teenage boy in the
• 45:53
  bathroom and that's the only way that it doesn't look suspicious.
• 45:58
  I mean, still looks suspicious. Yeah, he's.
• 46:02
  Yeah, I he is kind of. He's just weird.
• 46:06
  Like what? What's your boy do his thing, I
• 46:10
  guess. I, like, you know, one year off
• 46:11
  isn't going to kill him. Anybody.
• 46:13
  You know what? I mean, and here's the thing.
• 46:14
  I get the argument of, like, obviously I'm I I love school.
• 46:19
  I love learning. I continue to do school after
• 46:21
  finishing my undergraduate, stuff like and.
• 46:25
  But I also am fully aware that everybody's journey isn't the
• 46:28
  same. And just saying a blanket
• 46:29
  statement of you need to go to college and it needs to be right
• 46:32
  after you graduate high school isn't what's right for everyone.
• 46:35
  I think that was more of a true statement back in the 80s than
• 46:38
  it is now. Now it's kind of like the same
• 46:42
  as going to high school. Pretty much, yeah.
• 46:44
  Yeah. At this point, you pretty much
• 46:46
  have to go on for like a higher degree for it to make you stand
• 46:50
  out and like, yeah. OK, my next note is Vicky's
• 46:54
  friend is totally into her and this is Jess.
• 46:57
  I have a feeling that she's like, really into her because
• 46:59
  they're talking. She says, oh, I got to go to a
• 47:02
  doctor's appointment. And then like, as she's walking
• 47:03
  on a school, she's like, hey, hey, Vicky.
• 47:05
  And Vicky's like, yeah, she's like, I'll see you later.
• 47:09
  Like she just says in a way where I know that she really
• 47:12
  wants to be with her. See here's The thing is that I
• 47:16
  think it's more Monica that wants to be with her.
• 47:19
  Really. Yeah.
• 47:19
  And we see this like later on we'll talk about it when we get
• 47:22
  to it. I think Jess and Vicki are
• 47:25
  probably close and she cuz she's going to this appointment.
• 47:27
  What it really is, is like it's in obstetrics appointment cuz
• 47:32
  she's pregnant. Yeah, yeah.
• 47:34
  And I think she's wanting to tell Vicki about it.
• 47:38
  That could be. I think that's what it is cuz
• 47:40
  she's like very evasive. She's like it's just.
• 47:42
  She wants to tell. Annual appointment My mom makes
• 47:45
  me do, and then it seems like she's gonna say it, but then she
• 47:47
  just like she OK, can't do it in the middle of a crowd at.
• 47:51
  All you're probably right. I think you're right.
• 47:53
  Yeah, OK. So Vicki goes to the prop room.
• 47:59
  She's going to see if maybe she can find something she can
• 48:01
  repurpose there for the prom. That's.
• 48:02
  Such a weird decision. Why?
• 48:03
  Why would you go to the prop room to get a dress?
• 48:05
  Because her mom doesn't have to sign a check for that.
• 48:08
  That's true, but like, still, that's such a weird decision.
• 48:10
  But whatever. She finds a trunk and she opens
• 48:14
  it, and Mary Lou's soul comes flying out of it.
• 48:20
  Like, I don't. I don't.
• 48:21
  Is she fully released yet? I think she's like in the chest
• 48:25
  still. Or is she in the crown?
• 48:26
  I don't know. Stuff starts falling out of the
• 48:29
  trunk and then in the principal's office, Bill's class
• 48:33
  photo shatters. Yeah, And then he goes to look
• 48:36
  at it, and it shattered over Mary Lou's face.
• 48:38
  Yeah, And so then he's he kind of drives past the church and
• 48:42
  stares at the priest. So during our class, Vicki shows
• 48:48
  her friends the stuff that she found, and she's talking to the
• 48:50
  other, like prom committee people about maybe using some of
• 48:53
  this stuff to help decorate for prom.
• 48:56
  And then they're like, well, but maybe also that's in poor taste,
• 49:00
  since this is from 1957, which is the year that Mary Lou burned
• 49:03
  to death at the prom, and Jess goes, none of it fucking matters
• 49:06
  anyway. And she turns off so.
• 49:10
  Something's definitely going on with her, so Vicky goes to
• 49:13
  follow her to the bathroom. She's just in the corner crying.
• 49:16
  Yeah. And she says basically that she
• 49:19
  met this guy and she really liked him and she thought that
• 49:21
  he really liked her. But she hasn't heard from him
• 49:24
  and she's tried to get ahold of him and she's like, I've got
• 49:27
  some choices to make. And Vicki is like, yeah, I say
• 49:30
  you just forget him. And she goes, well, it's going
• 49:33
  to be hard to you because he left me something to remember
• 49:35
  him by. Yeah, that's that's going to be
• 49:39
  real complicated. Yeah, well, you think.
• 49:42
  But that night she's staying behind.
• 49:45
  She's tortured, artist and whatnot.
• 49:46
  Why? The fuck?
• 49:47
  Is she still at school at night? And the teacher there is like,
• 49:50
  all right, shut down whenever. You're going to lock it up when
• 49:53
  you're done. You're a keep the key kid.
• 49:55
  Your job. Don't put it on her, I fucking
• 49:58
  he gets. So get fired.
• 50:00
  It's just that's the culture that you cultivate when you go
• 50:03
  to the bathroom and start harassing your students about
• 50:06
  rock'n'roll like you ignore the sink bombs that are going on
• 50:09
  there. All of those transactions and
• 50:11
  you just like, all right, fucking lock it out.
• 50:12
  Yeah, I think once the school has decided that they're going
• 50:15
  to like, hide the evidence of a murder and a Trump that they
• 50:18
  keep in their props. And then hire the guy that
• 50:21
  murdered them as the next principal.
• 50:23
  Yeah, you're not really. It's not going to look too good.
• 50:29
  So she's there, she's cleaning up and she's about to lock up
• 50:32
  and she's looking at at the the stuff that came from the trunk.
• 50:36
  And she puts on the Cape and she looks at the crown and for some
• 50:40
  reason feels the urge to pop out the little diamonds in the front
• 50:45
  of the TR. Which, I get it, They do look.
• 50:47
  They look cheap as hell. Are you gonna keep it?
• 50:52
  I don't know. Maybe she was gonna try and find
• 50:54
  a way to make it look less tacky.
• 50:55
  No, maybe. I guess.
• 50:56
  I don't know. But it doesn't matter, because
• 50:58
  you know who doesn't like this one bit?
• 51:00
  Mary fucking Lou. This is her right off.
• 51:03
  Yeah, she starts playing her song on the radio and then grabs
• 51:07
  Jess by the Cape. And we know from the beginning
• 51:10
  that this Cape is hard to, like unbutton.
• 51:12
  So Jess is just being dragged, just being dragged towards a
• 51:14
  paper cutter, which is my worst nightmare because I have to use
• 51:17
  one of these that work pretty. Regularly and the thing slides
• 51:20
  open, so you think it's going to chop her up and then it gets
• 51:23
  right to it and then it stops, and then the cloak goes all the
• 51:27
  way up to the roof and gets tied up and she just gets.
• 51:30
  Hanged. It's very Nightmare on Elm
• 51:32
  Street. Yeah, Johnny Depp.
• 51:34
  Or not Johnny Depp, but the other one in the jail cell.
• 51:37
  Yeah, that dude. I forget about that.
• 51:38
  Yeah, and then she gets thrown through the window too.
• 51:40
  Yep, just for goodness. Yeah, just to make sure.
• 51:42
  And then tiara fixes itself. Yeah, I like that.
• 51:46
  Yeah. And Mary Lou's like, all right,
• 51:47
  get that shit back. The priest is praying and he's
• 51:51
  thinking about Mary Lou, the school.
• 51:55
  The next day they see like Vicki walks up and it's just Madhouse
• 51:59
  and they're assuming that Jess just like been alive to herself
• 52:05
  and Vicki's like, God, I hope this isn't the choice that she
• 52:08
  was thinking she had to make like.
• 52:10
  It was just a boyfriend. So they have the funeral in
• 52:15
  which God talking about. Like maybe this will convince us
• 52:20
  to take a look at things like the amount of violence on TV.
• 52:24
  Why did they even mention that? I.
• 52:27
  I would violence on TV cause you to kill yourself?
• 52:29
  This is a pet peeve of mine that I haven't seen in every funeral
• 52:32
  I've gone to, but I've seen it in a couple where, like, the
• 52:35
  person giving the sermon decides that they're going to, like, be
• 52:40
  morally superior and it's like, dude read the room.
• 52:42
  Now is not the time. Yeah, it's kind of a weird thing
• 52:45
  to do. Like hey, this is my time to
• 52:47
  shine. You all are listening to me.
• 52:48
  Here's some of my opinions. By the way, I think that this
• 52:51
  person might have gone to hell, so if you don't want that to
• 52:53
  happen to you, come see me like. This fucking person died with a
• 52:57
  Cape. Do you guys want to be like
• 52:59
  that? Don't watch TV, all right?
• 53:01
  Anyway, so Vicki goes and she finds Mary Lou's grave the next
• 53:07
  day, Kelly. She is also in the running for
• 53:12
  prom clan. She's a mean one.
• 53:14
  She's mean and she says something very rude about Jess.
• 53:17
  Like, she's like, you might want to take a note from Jess if you
• 53:19
  think that you're going to beat meet for prom queen or
• 53:22
  something. And Vicki calls her a fucking
• 53:25
  bitch. She says shut your mouth, you
• 53:27
  fucking bitch. And I wish that we'd had a
• 53:29
  bigger reaction from the people around her, because we know that
• 53:32
  this is not the type of language she uses and I wish they'd been
• 53:34
  like. I know everybody should have
• 53:36
  just been like, what the fuck? Everybody's probably relieved,
• 53:40
  though. Like God.
• 53:41
  Yeah, she's. I thought you meant that.
• 53:45
  They relieved that maybe Vicki was like, finally releasing
• 53:48
  sometimes. No, really.
• 53:49
  Like, really? That they finally told Kelly
• 53:52
  off. Yeah.
• 53:54
  So as she's walking down the hall, she recognizes the
• 53:57
  principle, which I mean, Vicki would obviously recognize the
• 53:59
  principal, but Mary Lee goes, hi Billy, that'd be so.
• 54:03
  She's like, who the fuck is? That and she has like a
• 54:05
  Nightmare on Elm Street moment where she's in the hall and she
• 54:08
  sees her bloody friend and thinks she's gonna die too.
• 54:11
  Yeah, She starts having just, like, hallucinations.
• 54:15
  It's it's kind of weird here. So at dinner, Vicki has received
• 54:20
  some forms from Weston U and her mom already opened them.
• 54:23
  And Vicki is says something to the effect of like, Gee, thanks
• 54:28
  for opening my mail. Pretty much that's verbatim what
• 54:30
  it was. Yeah, which was like, pretty
• 54:32
  tame for like, a teenager who backsessing.
• 54:35
  She started with some attitude. Yeah.
• 54:37
  Yeah, deserved. Yeah, it's deserved.
• 54:41
  This is how you help use teens from being teens into young
• 54:46
  adults. You let them do things like open
• 54:48
  their own fucking mail. Yeah.
• 54:50
  And she's like, well, anyway, I'm not going.
• 54:52
  Me and Craig are taking year off and we're going to work and
• 54:54
  probably live together and soon. Hope that's cool.
• 54:56
  Bye. So they end up getting into a
• 54:59
  big fight. Oh.
• 55:00
  Yeah, Mom prays about it. Yeah, and then that causes Vicki
• 55:03
  to storm upstairs. Where the ghost of Mary Lou
• 55:07
  forces her to put on dark pink lipstick like har.
• 55:12
  Wow, man, yeah, she I say with my, like, bright red lipstick on
• 55:16
  right now. Yeah, she's she's pushing the
• 55:18
  boundaries a little bit there. She she doesn't like it.
• 55:20
  She, like, snaps in or back into herself and then rubs it all
• 55:24
  off. Yeah, and so Josh asked Monica
• 55:28
  to prom And. I was wondering what that my
• 55:31
  note says reverse psychology smooches had.
• 55:33
  I'm like, what the fuck happened?
• 55:34
  Yeah, cuz she was like, well, if we were there together then
• 55:38
  people would think we're together, but I suppose we could
• 55:41
  be at the same place at the same time.
• 55:42
  And he was like, would you kiss me?
• 55:44
  And she goes, no. And he goes, well then we should
• 55:46
  probably kiss now and get it out of the way.
• 55:47
  And she's like, no. And he goes, well we're gonna
• 55:50
  kiss. So we can either do it now, or
• 55:52
  we can do it at prom when there are other people.
• 55:54
  So yeah, he does Jedi mind trick her into kissing her.
• 55:57
  She is also, I think playing into her, she's like, well, I
• 55:59
  mean, if we go, we might get caught up in the heat of the
• 56:02
  moment, might just actually kiss.
• 56:03
  And he's like, well, I mean, let's just go ahead and do it
• 56:05
  now and get it out of the way. Yeah, they both wanted it.
• 56:08
  Yeah. OK, so at gym class, Kelly hits
• 56:15
  Vicky with the volleyball on purpose.
• 56:18
  Nothing. Knock her out.
• 56:19
  Which is a really fucking hard hit.
• 56:20
  And also trigger like a nightmare vision of the
• 56:25
  volleyball net becoming a spider web.
• 56:27
  Yeah, that was weird. I forgot about that.
• 56:29
  I like that though. That was pretty cool.
• 56:31
  So Craig walks Vicki home because obviously the school is
• 56:35
  not gonna let her stay there after she just passed out in gym
• 56:38
  class. And Mom is very fucking rude to
• 56:40
  Craig, who's just like, you have a lovely home.
• 56:43
  You look very wonderful today, Missus Carpenter.
• 56:47
  Here's what happened with Vicki and she's like, I don't care.
• 56:51
  Get your scandalous hands off my daughter.
• 56:54
  Yeah, And then the dad's like, hey, you want to come eat
• 56:57
  dinner? And she's like, Nah, she's not
• 56:58
  going to have any confidence. No, no, no.
• 57:00
  What the mom says is that the dad says Oh yeah, OK, you're
• 57:05
  right. That's what she says about
• 57:06
  Craig. But then the dad is like, should
• 57:09
  we take Vicki to the doctor? And the mother says no doctors,
• 57:15
  only Jesus. Yeah, it's like she's like, no
• 57:17
  spending time with the words all she needs today.
• 57:19
  Like, really. And that's that.
• 57:23
  That's a complete rejection of science, which I believe is not
• 57:29
  in fitting with. God helps those who help
• 57:31
  themselves, but not my business. So Vicki does spend time with
• 57:37
  the Lord, and by the Lord, I mean Father Cooper.
• 57:40
  She goes and gives confessions and she's like, gives
• 57:44
  confessions. I'm not Catholic.
• 57:46
  She's had simple thoughts about her boyfriend.
• 57:49
  She's disrespected. Girl, she's 18.
• 57:51
  Yeah, it's normal. Yeah, this guy's probably heard
• 57:54
  this shit every single day. Like, Oh yeah, you want to like,
• 57:56
  yeah, it's. Like, that's pretty tame,
• 57:58
  actually. You're Catholic.
• 57:59
  You're supposed to be way older. Than this.
• 58:01
  It's totally normal. Disrespected mom.
• 58:04
  Also, have you met her? Yeah, that's also kind of
• 58:06
  normal. Probably.
• 58:07
  Also says by the way, on top of all this I've got hallucinations
• 58:11
  and I'm not sure if it's like demonic possession or
• 58:13
  schizophrenia. So, you know, maybe my mom won't
• 58:16
  let me see a doctor, so maybe you can help me with that.
• 58:18
  Yeah, it's like also this person, Mary Lou, something
• 58:21
  about her. I don't know what it is.
• 58:23
  So this kind of prompts we cut to Billy after this.
• 58:28
  He's unsettled. But Billy, he's now taking the
• 58:30
  picture of Mary Lou that cracked from before, and it's burning
• 58:32
  it. Yeah, so Vicky at home does a a
• 58:37
  drawing of herself and then does a drawing of Mary Lou, and then
• 58:41
  her bed sheets attach her and her mirror does a little wiggle
• 58:45
  and her door locks itself and her rocking horse gets even
• 58:48
  creepier. The rocking horse is so good.
• 58:51
  I love this thing. Dude, this rocking horse is
• 58:54
  already pretty fucking creepy on its own.
• 58:56
  But once it starts moving and rocking on its own and it does
• 58:58
  its little leg. With the tongue, yeah, and it's
• 59:01
  eyes. Man.
• 59:03
  OK, legit. Like this thing is actually kind
• 59:05
  of creepy. It is.
• 59:06
  I will say to that is actually pretty creepy to look at.
• 59:09
  And I like that they don't just use it this one time.
• 59:12
  Like it comes like, yeah, it's like an actual, like character
• 59:15
  in this house it. Really is.
• 59:16
  Because like later on, she's just riding it later and it's
• 59:18
  just kind of licking her fingers.
• 59:20
  Like, what the fuck is happening here?
• 59:21
  Yeah. Also, she's got Mario 64 type
• 59:24
  shit going on with her mirrors because they're all like ripply.
• 59:26
  Yeah, like go in there. It's a secret level Vicki.
• 59:31
  Dude, Yeah. So she goes to the cemetery and
• 59:34
  Father Cooper is there and she's like, hey, yo, what the fuck?
• 59:37
  And he's like, maybe we can do like a a mini exorcism.
• 59:40
  Exorcism, light. The power of Christ compels you,
• 59:44
  and the Bible explodes. So is it is it compelling?
• 59:49
  I don't know. Is it?
• 59:50
  Compelling. So Craig is working on his
• 59:53
  Yamaha and he says something. I forget exactly what the
• 59:58
  sentence is, but it involves the phrase God damn it.
• 1:00:02
  And doesn't realize that it's Father Cooper behind him.
• 1:00:04
  He goes sorry. So Cooper goes inside with Bill
• 1:00:09
  and they drink and talk about Mary Lou.
• 1:00:12
  I feel like this is another trope for priests is like,
• 1:00:15
  they're like, yeah, give me some alcohol.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah, it's kind of like a different version of like the
• 1:00:20
  corners that, like, eat to show how desensitized they are.
• 1:00:24
  This is a freeze. Drinking to show how like
• 1:00:27
  serious the situation is. Yeah, they're like, God damn it,
• 1:00:29
  I need. Me like this isn't even the
• 1:00:30
  blood of Christ. This is alcohol like.
• 1:00:34
  God made bourbon true. And he's like, well, you know,
• 1:00:39
  she died violently. And I've read that, like
• 1:00:41
  spirits, when they die violently, they become trapped
• 1:00:43
  in purgatory, waiting for revenge.
• 1:00:46
  So you know, you should probably watch out, Bill, because you
• 1:00:49
  you're the one that lit the bomb.
• 1:00:51
  Yeah, you you kind of fucked up. And he's like, I feel guilty
• 1:00:54
  myself. I'm like, well, yeah, you kind
• 1:00:56
  of are the catalyst for this. Like you didn't know and it was
• 1:01:00
  a bad thing to do, but you didn't kill her at the same time
• 1:01:02
  too. Like, I don't know why she would
• 1:01:04
  be mad at you. Here's The thing is that I think
• 1:01:06
  it would make so much more sense for Cooper to have gone on to
• 1:01:10
  become the principal and Bill to go on and become the priest.
• 1:01:15
  Because that makes much more like I feel so much guilt over
• 1:01:18
  having involuntary manslaughtered my girlfriend
• 1:01:22
  that I'm going to devote my life to penance.
• 1:01:25
  Yeah, it's something that I was thinking about too.
• 1:01:28
  However, I do kind of like that. I like that it went opposite
• 1:01:33
  from what you expect, Yeah. And also I think for storyline
• 1:01:35
  purposes, it helps us tie in things together a little bit
• 1:01:38
  more neatly with Craig and Billy and Vicki and Mary Lou.
• 1:01:42
  It makes all of that neater, and I get that.
• 1:01:46
  I just also think it's funny to look at the different ways that
• 1:01:49
  they dealt with their trauma, which for Bill, it's to pretend
• 1:01:53
  it didn't happen to the point of working at the school where he
• 1:01:58
  involuntary manslaughtered somebody and hid the evidence in
• 1:02:01
  a trunk in the prop room. Why?
• 1:02:04
  The fuck? I'm Weirdo, and I mean he.
• 1:02:08
  And all Cooper did was like make out with her beforehand and
• 1:02:12
  thrust his first against the post and still insist he sees
• 1:02:14
  the ghost like. Maybe that's what he feels.
• 1:02:16
  Sorry. He's like, I could have done
• 1:02:18
  something instead of banging my fists.
• 1:02:20
  What was I thinking? But he like Billy.
• 1:02:25
  I just haven't met Donna's. Billy.
• 1:02:27
  Yeah, he he he's like, we're different people now, which is
• 1:02:30
  true. Like, you're a totally different
• 1:02:31
  dude now. Both of you guys are.
• 1:02:33
  So Craig and Vicky are at the diner, and she's tired and she's
• 1:02:36
  stressed and she's a little snippy.
• 1:02:39
  Kelly talks to Josh and is asking him to fix the computer
• 1:02:44
  votes, and she offers $100 and he's like, I'm gonna need a
• 1:02:47
  little something more than that, sweetheart.
• 1:02:50
  And then in class, Kelly is shit talking.
• 1:02:52
  Vicky and Monica brought the 1957 yearbook for Vicky to look
• 1:02:57
  at, and Vicky slaps Kelly. God, yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Which? It was.
• 1:03:04
  It was satisfying. Yeah.
• 1:03:05
  Gets her detention, though. Mint did.
• 1:03:08
  She's there until 5:00. This fucking teacher doesn't
• 1:03:10
  care. It's just kind of the whole
• 1:03:12
  culture of this school. And then he's like, he's like
• 1:03:15
  just leave at 5:00. I don't fucking care.
• 1:03:17
  And he walks out. He probably went home.
• 1:03:19
  Yeah, and because of that, she gets sucked into the chalk zone
• 1:03:23
  without the magic chalk. She's just gotta hope she runs
• 1:03:26
  into Rudy at some point. Dude, what was the name of the
• 1:03:29
  little blue guy that was his psychic?
• 1:03:32
  I don't know. All I know is Rudy's got the
• 1:03:34
  Chuck, the Chuck, the Chuck, Chuck.
• 1:03:36
  It's a fucking rat. Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:03:39
  That was great. Boy, weird.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah. But she gets straight up sucked
• 1:03:43
  into that. And that was one of those codes
• 1:03:45
  where me and my younger sister are so spread apart.
• 1:03:48
  There were a lot of shows that we didn't like, didn't overlap
• 1:03:52
  us generationally, but that was one that we both actually
• 1:03:56
  enjoyed watching after school together, yeah.
• 1:03:58
  That one did at the right time for that.
• 1:04:00
  OK, all right. Vicki gives another
• 1:04:03
  confessional, except this time she asks Father Cooper, will you
• 1:04:06
  fuck me? Which?
• 1:04:08
  And then she, she repeats Mary Lou's confessional from the
• 1:04:12
  beginning. Well, she's not going to get
• 1:04:13
  that. Yeah, but whatever.
• 1:04:15
  She attacks through the little great thingy and stabs him and
• 1:04:20
  she said, and the worst thing about happiness or is I didn't
• 1:04:23
  get any wings. Oh God, I love that.
• 1:04:25
  Because she she's like, yeah, there's no heaven.
• 1:04:27
  It's just purgatory and the thing that pissed me off the
• 1:04:30
  most. No fucking wings.
• 1:04:32
  I was really hoping that we were going to get because this was
• 1:04:34
  referenced and I think both Heather's and Scream Queens
• 1:04:38
  about dinosaurs being in the afterlife.
• 1:04:42
  What? Wasn't that?
• 1:04:43
  Did they? Don't do that in Heather's too?
• 1:04:45
  Heather comes back, Veronica Caesar, and she says something
• 1:04:49
  about how the afterlife is so boring and there's not even any
• 1:04:51
  dinosaurs. I know that's.
• 1:04:53
  I know that's for sure in Scream Queens, and I thought Scream
• 1:04:56
  Queens was taking it from Heather's.
• 1:04:57
  I might have it mixed up with something else.
• 1:04:59
  I don't know. It doesn't ring a bell, but I
• 1:05:00
  can't truly remember. It's definitely in Scream Queens
• 1:05:04
  and I feel like it's in something else.
• 1:05:07
  I feel like they were pulling that as a reference and my brain
• 1:05:10
  wants to say that it's Heather's, but now I'm
• 1:05:12
  questioning myself. That would have been a equally
• 1:05:15
  good line. You know what pissed me off the
• 1:05:16
  most? And no fucking dinosaurs.
• 1:05:18
  She just. Kills.
• 1:05:19
  Yeah. And that's where I thought it
• 1:05:21
  was going with this. I thought she was gonna be like,
• 1:05:23
  in the worst, where there's no fucking dinosaurs.
• 1:05:25
  That would have been hilarious. OK, so next day is at school.
• 1:05:29
  Vicki is now dressed in all 50s attire.
• 1:05:31
  She's filling herself. I love it cuz Craig shows up and
• 1:05:35
  he's like, I didn't pick Vicki up this morning and Mark was
• 1:05:37
  like, have you seen what she's wearing?
• 1:05:40
  It's literally like it's just AT length skirt.
• 1:05:42
  I mean, she looks nice, yeah. And it's very much dated, but
• 1:05:46
  it's still I think carries over to the.
• 1:05:47
  Yeah, and I'm like, she's not like like a powerhouse of
• 1:05:51
  fashion. You know what I mean?
• 1:05:53
  She wears high waisted jeans and sweaters.
• 1:05:55
  She just swapped out the jeans for a skirt.
• 1:05:58
  Yeah, And it's she kind of looks like somebody from Greece.
• 1:06:02
  So she's also really rude to Monica now, too.
• 1:06:05
  So Monica thinks, you know, she goes over there to get correct.
• 1:06:08
  She's like, come on, Craig, let's go.
• 1:06:09
  And then Monica's like, hey, wait up for me.
• 1:06:10
  And she's like Craig's with me. And then Monica's like, OK,
• 1:06:13
  fine, Jesus. So they're setting up for prom,
• 1:06:18
  and they're all concerned about how Vicki's acting and Josh
• 1:06:22
  references Linda Blair says that, you know, soon we'll be
• 1:06:26
  seeing her turn in her head. Through 60°.
• 1:06:31
  Mr. Craven is a fucking creep in class.
• 1:06:34
  And you know what? I'm happy he gets a Bunsen
• 1:06:37
  burner to the pee. Pee gets he deserves it.
• 1:06:39
  Gets his Wiener on fire. Yeah, that's that is a weenie
• 1:06:43
  roasting. I fully support.
• 1:06:45
  Yeah, it was weird. I like that.
• 1:06:46
  She gets her Boy Scout badge for that I.
• 1:06:48
  Like that Vicki was pissed off enough and retaliated in that
• 1:06:51
  way. I think it would have been
• 1:06:52
  better to call him out in front of the students.
• 1:06:54
  Like, hey, why are you grabbing my ass right now?
• 1:06:56
  Just like, yell it out. See.
• 1:06:57
  And here's the thing, too. Is that like, this movie wants
• 1:07:00
  to like, Which, OK, I don't support cheating, so I don't
• 1:07:05
  think it's cool that, like, Mary Lou was in a committed
• 1:07:08
  relationship with Bill and went and, like, made out with Cooper.
• 1:07:13
  But I also think that they're like overly moralizing her, like
• 1:07:18
  being promiscuous because it's not so much the promiscuity as
• 1:07:23
  it is, just like you're in a monogamous, committed
• 1:07:26
  relationship. Yeah, I don't think that they're
• 1:07:28
  trying to paint it in a good light.
• 1:07:29
  Like. I think they're just like, yeah,
• 1:07:31
  she's like, really like she's into.
• 1:07:34
  She's not really the type to settle down with a single
• 1:07:36
  person. Yeah, they just they try and act
• 1:07:38
  like she is like some harlot or something.
• 1:07:42
  And I like that. You know, instead of her just
• 1:07:45
  being like cool, this is another dude that's flirting with me.
• 1:07:47
  She's like fuck that. No, you're a creep.
• 1:07:50
  You think you're touching and 1718 year olds ass in the middle
• 1:07:54
  of class. That's not OK, yeah.
• 1:07:57
  It's so weird. That stuff is always
• 1:07:59
  uncomfortable. OK, so.
• 1:08:02
  Monica confronts Vicki in the locker room and she goes to
• 1:08:08
  shower and Vicki Lou. I guess we can start calling.
• 1:08:12
  Her. Yeah, She's kind of like.
• 1:08:13
  That she goes and flirts with Monica in the shower, and Monica
• 1:08:18
  seems kind of into it. Yeah, football naked.
• 1:08:21
  So I wonder, like, I wonder if there's an element of, like,
• 1:08:25
  Monica isn't getting dates not just because she's, like,
• 1:08:29
  ignoring the guys asking her out, but maybe like there's a
• 1:08:31
  part of her that doesn't want it to be guys asking her out.
• 1:08:33
  But she can't really, like, do anything with that in her
• 1:08:36
  heavily Christian town in the 80s.
• 1:08:38
  Could be. And I think she at most is like
• 1:08:41
  bye because she's definitely in the Josh.
• 1:08:43
  Yeah. So yeah, we we don't know well.
• 1:08:46
  What that we do know is that she's getting chased by a naked
• 1:08:50
  Vicky Woo right now, which, yeah, we weren't in the job
• 1:08:52
  thing. They made a decision to do this
• 1:08:54
  scene last second on. The day of filming, Yeah 'cause
• 1:08:57
  they were like, well, it feels more in character for her to be
• 1:09:01
  nude doing this chasing. And this is probably like one of
• 1:09:04
  the, like, most intense steps in this movie.
• 1:09:07
  Because she, like you, think that Monica's gotten away 'cause
• 1:09:10
  she's hidden in this locker and the music's playing and we just
• 1:09:14
  hear the like drip, drip, drip of the shower, like slowly
• 1:09:17
  turning off and everything. And right as the music ends,
• 1:09:22
  Vicky Liu does a little flick of the wrist and crushes the
• 1:09:26
  walkers together. She yeah, she hides in the
• 1:09:28
  Walker and I love how she's like a wop bop, a Doo wop bam.
• 1:09:32
  And it just like crushes together.
• 1:09:34
  Yeah, and that's a goose's blood.
• 1:09:35
  It is. Like is, which a creepy.
• 1:09:37
  Like, I think even the shots of her where she's just kind of
• 1:09:40
  peeking behind the walkers, just looking for her.
• 1:09:42
  And just moving. So slowly it's yeah, I like it a
• 1:09:45
  lot. So Vicki Lou gets aggressive,
• 1:09:49
  like trying to make out with Craig, who's like, hey, this
• 1:09:52
  isn't like you. And then she uses some slurs
• 1:09:54
  that I don't appreciate. And I'm not gonna repeat here.
• 1:09:58
  Billy wakes up, I think, and sees Vicki or Mary Lou.
• 1:10:05
  Yeah. In the office.
• 1:10:06
  No, no. Yeah, he's asleep in his office
• 1:10:09
  and he wakes up and sees her. She comes in to start talking to
• 1:10:12
  him. Yeah, he's.
• 1:10:13
  Awake. No.
• 1:10:14
  He, like, snaps awake. Really.
• 1:10:16
  Yeah. I think she, like, snuck in
• 1:10:17
  there. I wrote that he woke up.
• 1:10:19
  That didn't come from nowhere. OK, I didn't have that.
• 1:10:23
  I just have her going in there and confronting him.
• 1:10:26
  Yeah. Being like, hey, by the way, I'm
• 1:10:27
  Mary Lou. I'm Mary Lou.
• 1:10:29
  I'm gonna kill you. And I'm probably gonna kill your
• 1:10:31
  son and probably a bunch of other people too.
• 1:10:33
  So, but first I gotta go home and ride my creepy rocking
• 1:10:37
  course while it licks my fingers.
• 1:10:41
  Her dad comes in and says that she's beautiful and talks about
• 1:10:45
  his and her mom's prom and how much fun they had.
• 1:10:49
  And Can you imagine that woman having fun?
• 1:10:51
  And Mary Lou kisses him and mom walks in and sees that and calls
• 1:10:55
  Vicki a Jezebel. And I wrote Mary Lou.
• 1:10:58
  Carrie Weitzer. Yep.
• 1:11:00
  Just straight up pushes her through the door with her mind
• 1:11:02
  powers. Yep.
• 1:11:03
  Yeah. Does this kill her?
• 1:11:04
  Do you think we don't see her again the rest of the movie?
• 1:11:07
  Oh, I think it's heavily implied that she's dead.
• 1:11:10
  And they say that like her father was spared, except we
• 1:11:15
  like Craig at some point is going to call the house and it's
• 1:11:18
  going to be the outgoing, like leave a message is from Mary Lou
• 1:11:24
  saying that like, the Carpenter family is dead.
• 1:11:27
  That's true. Yeah.
• 1:11:28
  So I guess he is dead too. Yeah.
• 1:11:31
  Billy Wicks Craig and talks about Vicky.
• 1:11:37
  They like. They both talk about Vicky and
• 1:11:39
  everything that like has kind of happened.
• 1:11:41
  They're trying to figure out the mystery and what's going on.
• 1:11:44
  And he goes to Mary Lou's grave and finds Father Cooper buried
• 1:11:49
  there instead. And he cries and hugs his
• 1:11:52
  corpse. Yep.
• 1:11:53
  So now we're at a prom. Mm hmm.
• 1:11:56
  Josh has a present waiting for Monica, which is sad I feel bad
• 1:11:59
  for. Him.
• 1:11:59
  I know I do feel kind of bad. I also feel kind of bad for
• 1:12:04
  Kelly because her date is like, super fucking drunk.
• 1:12:07
  Yeah. At like, I get that feeling
• 1:12:10
  where she's just like, I just wanted us to have a nice night
• 1:12:13
  together and you're wasted and you're not gonna remember any of
• 1:12:15
  this. You're gonna behave like an
• 1:12:16
  asshole. That's kind of the prom thing,
• 1:12:19
  right? You just kind of get drunk and
• 1:12:20
  you just have a fun time. Yeah, except he's past the point
• 1:12:23
  of having a fun. Time, yeah.
• 1:12:25
  He's yeah, he's that like, God, nobody wants to be around this
• 1:12:28
  guy kind of drunk. Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  Let's see, Josh. Billy goes to his office where
• 1:12:34
  he keeps his gun, because again, he's the worst principal on the
• 1:12:37
  face of the planet, Yeah. He grabbed the gun and he's
• 1:12:39
  like, alright, I'm shooting her in front of all of my students
• 1:12:42
  and he dies. I know he doesn't even like.
• 1:12:46
  You're not even editorializing it.
• 1:12:48
  That's exactly what he does. I like to imagine like he goes
• 1:12:52
  over there, shoots her, and then he goes up to the microphone.
• 1:12:54
  He's like y'all know who he hired and then he drops the mic.
• 1:12:58
  It's just like everybody's like, you know what?
• 1:13:00
  Honest on my resume. Yeah, like, very clearly written
• 1:13:04
  right there. Killed Mary Woo.
• 1:13:06
  At. Senior year Want to redeem
• 1:13:08
  myself? Kills women at prom hired.
• 1:13:12
  Yeah, I like killed woman at prom.
• 1:13:16
  Wants to be hired. Redemption Arc question mark.
• 1:13:19
  Killed principal. Talked to me in bathroom.
• 1:13:22
  Killed woman at prom. I would like to talk to boys in
• 1:13:25
  bathroom. Would like to kill girls at
• 1:13:27
  prom. Yeah, so, like, what are your
• 1:13:28
  goals? Like, what would you like to
• 1:13:29
  bring to this? Well, I'd like to continue the
• 1:13:31
  tradition of talking to boys and.
• 1:13:32
  I know what Hamilton High's real legacy is and I'm prepared to
• 1:13:36
  carry it on. Yeah, OK.
• 1:13:38
  I don't think any of this has actually happened yet.
• 1:13:40
  Though no, because first we have Josh in his like little nerd
• 1:13:45
  booth where he's got to go calculate the votes but Monica
• 1:13:48
  comes in and he's like, well you know the price and she sets some
• 1:13:52
  mints on the table and the rest is implied and he says so he
• 1:14:00
  goes to like change the boat and he says sorry Vicki so she would
• 1:14:03
  have won. And then he changes it to Saint
• 1:14:06
  Monica. Except then the screen changes
• 1:14:08
  itself and says dead wrong and he gets electrocuted with all of
• 1:14:13
  the special effects that the 80s had to offer straight from
• 1:14:17
  chopping ball and child to play. I love and they just like draw
• 1:14:21
  the little electric electricity on the cells obviously it's so
• 1:14:24
  cool. So yeah, it is revealed that
• 1:14:28
  Vicki is the winner. Yep of prom queen and.
• 1:14:31
  And that. So there's a person in the crowd
• 1:14:34
  who says, hey Kelly, how'd you blow it?
• 1:14:37
  That was actually Ron Oliver. That's so.
• 1:14:39
  Funny, yeah. I feel like he's like, I gotta
• 1:14:41
  do this like. Yeah, they had to do like some
• 1:14:43
  kind of a reshoot. Yeah.
• 1:14:44
  So he just threw himself in there and.
• 1:14:48
  So she goes up there, takes the crown, does her wave, and then
• 1:14:53
  Billy's like, all right, Bang, Bang, shoots her down.
• 1:14:57
  Bang Bang. And.
• 1:14:59
  My baby shot me down. I always forget that this
• 1:15:02
  happens, 'cause she falls to the ground and then suddenly his arm
• 1:15:07
  shoots out of her. Ass.
• 1:15:08
  No, no, she falls to the ground. Craig runs on her and he goes,
• 1:15:11
  Oh my God, Vicky's dead. Long love Vicky, but her body
• 1:15:17
  like splits open and an arm comes up and we get yasified
• 1:15:21
  tarman. Yeah, it was Tarman.
• 1:15:24
  It like Mary, like and we we spent, we had to pause them
• 1:15:29
  maybe because we spent like 5 or 10 minutes riding the interim
• 1:15:33
  between this prom and Return of the Living Dead, which would be
• 1:15:36
  like two months later in universe.
• 1:15:39
  Yeah, so you were like, okay. So Tarman goes to prom, has bad
• 1:15:45
  time, repossesses somebody, but not fully.
• 1:15:48
  What does his body do? He goes and he parties at one of
• 1:15:51
  the high schoolers. House climbs into the keg.
• 1:15:53
  That keg is taken too. Kentucky.
• 1:15:57
  Louisville. Kentucky.
• 1:15:57
  Yeah. Take into Louisville, KY, and
• 1:15:59
  put in the spare parts warehouse.
• 1:16:02
  Yep, whatever it's called. I'd argue that's a good time.
• 1:16:04
  That's a good prom, right? There.
• 1:16:05
  Yeah, I you know what? I'm gonna say it.
• 1:16:07
  I think we have our sequel. That's our dream sequel.
• 1:16:10
  That's our dream sequel. Is our dream sequel just Return
• 1:16:12
  of the Living Death? Our dream sequel is is.
• 1:16:15
  It the one that bridges those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:18
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:16:20
  So anyway, it turns into like, Carrie yeah, it's full.
• 1:16:25
  She's just using her telekinesis to straight up attack everybody.
• 1:16:29
  She chases after Craig. She keeps sparing Craig for some
• 1:16:33
  reason. I think she has a soft spot for
• 1:16:34
  him. Yeah, I think that's, I think
• 1:16:36
  that maybe we're meant to think that's like the little bit of
• 1:16:39
  Vicky that's still in there. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
• 1:16:42
  It makes it down to the prop room and she sees Josh's body,
• 1:16:46
  which does the 360. Yeah, his his head is like 180
• 1:16:50
  from where it should be and I was like character.
• 1:16:52
  They predicted it was on. Dove, Vicki set the door.
• 1:16:55
  Comes in hugs. Craig.
• 1:16:56
  She's crying and she's like Mary Lou's.
• 1:16:59
  Gosh, it's okay. Except actually she is still
• 1:17:03
  Mary Lou. See the glove and she the glove
• 1:17:06
  and the ring with the ML on it. Yeah, and what the fuck is this?
• 1:17:10
  I I wrote Mary Lou through, though try sucking Craig in
• 1:17:16
  chest. She opens up the chest for her.
• 1:17:20
  Chest, Yeah. Not her chest.
• 1:17:21
  For some reason I was picturing her just like shoving him in her
• 1:17:24
  boobs and like getting in there. It's like that scene from NIA,
• 1:17:31
  the demon, where Lenny quickly takes a lipstick.
• 1:17:34
  Yeah. Yeah, no, she's trying to put
• 1:17:36
  him with her murder evidence. That makes way more.
• 1:17:39
  Yeah. And then Billy appears.
• 1:17:44
  He's got the tiara and he's like, listen, this is all you've
• 1:17:47
  ever wanted. And he puts it on her and they
• 1:17:50
  dance and they kiss. And then we flash to an
• 1:17:54
  alternate universe where she wins dude prom queen and she
• 1:17:59
  doesn't die. Speaking of like callbacks,
• 1:18:02
  which is I guess kind of related to one of the movies you picked
• 1:18:05
  for here, they strip Evil Dead. Yeah, this is like the first
• 1:18:08
  person camera, just like. Yeah.
• 1:18:10
  Going through with the whole area, it's so cool.
• 1:18:14
  We're snapped out of that universe by the trunk slamming.
• 1:18:17
  And Vicki is she's inside and Craig lets her out and like,
• 1:18:25
  it's actually Vicki this time because he says, do you put
• 1:18:28
  sugar in your coffee? And she's like, what?
• 1:18:29
  No, that stuff will kill you, yeah.
• 1:18:30
  Which is what she was telling him at the diner.
• 1:18:32
  Yeah. Before.
• 1:18:33
  So they leave the prop dungeon because they like.
• 1:18:36
  They don't have to do any cleanup because they know the
• 1:18:38
  cops won't go down there. The cops never go to the prop
• 1:18:40
  closet it. Would be funny if the police
• 1:18:44
  showed up and they're like, what the fuck happened?
• 1:18:45
  They see Billy. What I was like Billy?
• 1:18:48
  You'll notice that the cause don't even stop the three of
• 1:18:52
  them, even though the whole student body just watched Vicki
• 1:18:55
  get murdered. And then stay unmurdered enough
• 1:19:00
  to revenge murder everyone else like.
• 1:19:03
  But the cops are like, oh, she's with Belle.
• 1:19:05
  It's fine. I was.
• 1:19:06
  Like Billy, What did you do Billy?
• 1:19:07
  Did you do another sink bomb? It's like Nope, straight up shot
• 1:19:10
  her. Billy, Billy, you're losing your
• 1:19:15
  touch. Come on, Billy, that's not
• 1:19:17
  original. You're supposed to go bigger.
• 1:19:19
  Yeah, come on. Did you get anything from the
• 1:19:21
  bathroom this time? Got crowned.
• 1:19:24
  So they get into Phil's truck. I didn't picture him driving a
• 1:19:28
  truck, but when they get in there he turns on some Ricky
• 1:19:32
  Nelson and it's a very like Nightmare on Elm Street because
• 1:19:36
  the door is locked and they go. Yeah, he turns around and he's
• 1:19:40
  Mary Lou. Mary Lou straight up took over
• 1:19:43
  his body now. So that's how the movie ends.
• 1:19:47
  Fuck it. You know what 9?
• 1:19:49
  You're bumping it to 9. I'll do the 8 1/2, yeah.
• 1:19:53
  So 875. Yep.
• 1:19:55
  Nice. That's a strong rating right
• 1:19:58
  there. It is a strong rating.
• 1:19:59
  We're starting prom, prom months off.
• 1:20:01
  We're real strong. Oh yeah, man.
• 1:20:02
  It can only go up maybe. I don't know.
• 1:20:05
  I hope so. I hope so.
• 1:20:09
  So, Talia. Wait, shouldn't I do change?
• 1:20:13
  Oh yes, you should do your change.
• 1:20:14
  Sorry. Let's see what would be
• 1:20:18
  something that I don't want to change.
• 1:20:19
  Yeah, what is something that you would change to bump your score
• 1:20:21
  up even further? That's a good question.
• 1:20:31
  I would have done the fucking beheading with the paper cutter.
• 1:20:37
  Go there, man. Go there with those kills
• 1:20:39
  because you did the the one with the locker was awesome because
• 1:20:41
  you see like the blood and guts spewing out of the locker
• 1:20:44
  whenever that happens. You know what I want, though?
• 1:20:46
  If they do the cutting with the paper cutter, I want it to show
• 1:20:50
  that, like, the line is off a little bit from the front of her
• 1:20:53
  neck to the back of her neck, because those things are always
• 1:20:55
  crooked. Oh.
• 1:20:56
  God, that happened to be. Yesterday at work I did.
• 1:20:58
  That I used one of these. I was like, fuck, I thought I
• 1:21:00
  had it all lined. Up there is no way to ever make
• 1:21:03
  those perfect, and it's because of like basically the principle
• 1:21:06
  of the fulcrum both which it works on because it's like I'm
• 1:21:09
  not going to go into the physics.
• 1:21:10
  It's OK. It it, those never cut straight
• 1:21:13
  because of the way they're designed.
• 1:21:15
  But man, like, I think if they would have let the budget
• 1:21:20
  balloon a little bit, take it more advantage of those Canadian
• 1:21:23
  credits, let's get some. Wild.
• 1:21:24
  Kills, yeah, because they go off the rails with the union.
• 1:21:27
  Like they got potential with some good effects.
• 1:21:30
  I would have liked to have seen that.
• 1:21:32
  And Jessa's head would have been easy enough to do like a
• 1:21:35
  duplicate of because she was like 85% hair.
• 1:21:38
  Yeah, I know you. Just need like, a decent lick.
• 1:21:40
  You don't even need it to be that great because it's just
• 1:21:41
  going to be like, flying. Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  You don't really. Yeah.
• 1:21:45
  OK, so all right, So what did Talia think of this?
• 1:21:47
  So Talia spent a lot of the beginning of the movie outside
• 1:21:50
  running around. She likes to imagine a world in
• 1:21:52
  which all Proms are perfect and nobody ever gets murdered.
• 1:21:54
  So she didn't want to see Mary Lou burn for six seconds while
• 1:21:57
  she's. Gonna have a terrible time this
• 1:21:59
  month. Pretty much all of our prom
• 1:22:01
  movies are not gonna be well. That she came back in for the
• 1:22:04
  second-half. She wanted to see how Vicky was
• 1:22:06
  gonna deal with this demonic possession, but she was dealing
• 1:22:10
  with a demonic possession in our own house, which was Zoe
• 1:22:13
  fighting her own reflection and Talia.
• 1:22:15
  I could not abide by that. That's true.
• 1:22:16
  I forgot about that. She she had to keep going and
• 1:22:18
  breaking her abs, So she was. Zoe has moved over to fighting
• 1:22:21
  the dishwasher now. Well, 'cause she can see her
• 1:22:24
  reflection in that too, and. All of the things.
• 1:22:26
  So stove, the dishwasher, the windows, it's whatever.
• 1:22:28
  And I think she things. Anything she can see her
• 1:22:30
  reflection in at night, where she kind of only vaguely sees
• 1:22:34
  it, she's going to fight it. Probably a cab.
• 1:22:36
  She and she did watch this movie.
• 1:22:38
  I mean, she did that, but like, she came back in and she cuddled
• 1:22:41
  up for a little bit to watch it. So I think all of that said and
• 1:22:45
  done, I think Tommy would give this an 8.
• 1:22:48
  An 8 Yeah, all right. And now it's time for Zoe's.
• 1:22:54
  Who does Zoe think is the superior hunter?
• 1:22:57
  Superior Hunter Billy obviously had like, the most innovative
• 1:23:02
  ways of killing high. Schoolers, I mean he he goes to
• 1:23:05
  the bathroom to get supplies, he drops it on Mary Lou from above
• 1:23:09
  and then he stays at the high school to continue waiting to
• 1:23:13
  shoot people and or approach them in the bathroom and then
• 1:23:17
  like we. Don't even see he's going to
• 1:23:18
  kill more people after the fact too.
• 1:23:21
  Potentially Vicki and Craig Yeah, it's, it's definitely
• 1:23:25
  Billy Billy's the best owner. It's gotta be Billy, Yeah.
• 1:23:28
  OK, OK. Who did you relate to?
• 1:23:32
  Who? Did I relate to?
• 1:23:35
  I guess I would think that maybe I related to like Jess, not just
• 1:23:46
  cuz of the name, because like being the art student that the
• 1:23:49
  teacher would trust to like lock up the classroom even though
• 1:23:52
  it's like super fucked up. Yeah, and you know, maybe
• 1:23:55
  pulling the cheap looking jewels out of the crown to try and make
• 1:23:59
  them look a little better. OK, I could see.
• 1:24:02
  I could see that. I could feel that.
• 1:24:05
  Let's see for me who did it. I relate to.
• 1:24:09
  Fuck, man. I don't know, Josh.
• 1:24:11
  I guess. I don't know.
• 1:24:12
  Like, I I guess I just kind of related to his high school
• 1:24:17
  experience more a little bit, you know, like he he was just
• 1:24:22
  kind of there. Like, I don't know, like he
• 1:24:25
  didn't really like, he didn't really have a strong
• 1:24:30
  relationship to any of the characters there though.
• 1:24:32
  So I don't, I don't fucking know.
• 1:24:34
  This is a tough one for me to do.
• 1:24:35
  I can't really think of anybody. OK, I'll go with Josh because he
• 1:24:38
  was a nerdy guy, OK. You know, And I guess that's the
• 1:24:41
  most relatable person to me in this scenario, I also went to
• 1:24:46
  prompt Stag OK and he did too, technically.
• 1:24:50
  So there you. Go All right, We've already
• 1:24:54
  talked about a dream sequel, so that leaves us with a new
• 1:24:58
  tagline. I feel like the tagline should
• 1:25:01
  be it's not who you come with, it's who you go home with.
• 1:25:05
  Again. Again.
• 1:25:07
  It's not who you come in. Nope.
• 1:25:14
  I was going to try and make a like possession moment.
• 1:25:21
  Oh, boy. That's that's the tag.
• 1:25:23
  It's not who you coming, Mary Lou.
• 1:25:26
  That's not who you coming It's. Not who you coming, it's who you
• 1:25:31
  go home and. Oh God, let's see.
• 1:25:36
  Sometimes I need to think things through.
• 1:25:38
  Before I say that loud, come for the prom, stay for the principal
• 1:25:42
  executions. Come for the prom, save for the
• 1:25:45
  executions. Well, she'll be the prom queen
• 1:25:49
  and die trying. No, that's too similar to one
• 1:25:54
  I've already got. What about like if you if you
• 1:26:02
  don't like the punch, how about a little fire?
• 1:26:05
  She don't like the punch. That's pretty good.
• 1:26:08
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:26:10
  The only other thing I can't remember if it's an actual one.
• 1:26:17
  It was like, more of like, sure, like become prom queen or die
• 1:26:24
  trying. Yeah, I guess.
• 1:26:25
  That was that. Was the main.
• 1:26:27
  Tagline already. Guy that was good.
• 1:26:30
  I thought of that one too. Or, you know, I just you heard
• 1:26:35
  it at the beginning and stole it.
• 1:26:37
  All right, fine, we'll use yours.
• 1:26:38
  I can't think of anything better.
• 1:26:42
  They. Did a good one.
• 1:26:43
  They had a water. They had so many.
• 1:26:45
  Yeah, it's tough. OK, OK, OK.
• 1:26:51
  It's a review time. It is review time, so I found a
• 1:26:55
  review on IMDb. OK.
• 1:26:58
  I knew that we were both favorable towards this movie, so
• 1:27:01
  I found one that wasn't as favorable.
• 1:27:04
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:27:05
  That's good. This is a 2 for two out of 10
• 1:27:09
  and this was reviewed in 2020. This movie was all over the
• 1:27:12
  place, the spirit of a promiscuous high school girl who
• 1:27:15
  was killed 50 years earlier. No, that time that mask bad has
• 1:27:20
  possessed another girl in order to win prom queen and exact
• 1:27:22
  revenge. This movie was a mess.
• 1:27:25
  It was sacrilegious with lions in there paying homage to the
• 1:27:28
  Exorcist. Someone clearly had a bad
• 1:27:30
  experience at the Catholic Church as a child, and it was
• 1:27:33
  patently trying to imitate A Nightmare on Elm Street with the
• 1:27:35
  dreaming and bizarre occurrences.
• 1:27:37
  None of that was as bothersome as the incoherence as well as
• 1:27:40
  the digression from the original prom night with Jamie Lee.
• 1:27:43
  Curtis had nothing to do with evil spirits and paranormal
• 1:27:45
  activity. It was a mystery serial killer
• 1:27:47
  taking out everyone associated with a little girl's death.
• 1:27:50
  I don't expect the plot to be the same, but stick to the
• 1:27:53
  normal instead of paranormal. They completely shunned the
• 1:27:56
  serial killer narrative for some spook stuff.
• 1:27:58
  This movie was sloppy and even and just yuck.
• 1:28:02
  OK, I can get that like you want like it to follow the slasher
• 1:28:06
  formula. Also, I take it that this person
• 1:28:09
  might be religious, so they probably didn't really like the.
• 1:28:14
  Dude, I'm getting such a bad deja vu right now.
• 1:28:16
  Why? Holy shit no.
• 1:28:18
  I just remember being 447 and us talking about this and you
• 1:28:23
  saying I can see if you were religious not liking this.
• 1:28:26
  For one movie. I don't know.
• 1:28:30
  It's just deja vu. OK, sorry, I thought you were
• 1:28:33
  thinking like you remembered us having this exact.
• 1:28:35
  Decision. No, I'm saying that I'm getting
• 1:28:36
  deja vu right now. That's always weird whenever
• 1:28:41
  that happens, Yeah. But yeah, yeah, I mean, that
• 1:28:46
  makes sense. Like, I mean, I don't think that
• 1:28:49
  they're necessarily disrespectful to the religion in
• 1:28:50
  this at least. I just think that they are like
• 1:28:52
  showing somebody like a character that takes that their
• 1:28:56
  convictions a little bit too far and tries to force them upon
• 1:29:00
  somebody else. Yeah, and like, I think Vicki
• 1:29:02
  honestly like she was trying to find a good neutral ground of
• 1:29:05
  like having her religious beliefs while also still like
• 1:29:08
  living her own life on her own terms.
• 1:29:10
  She was respectful. I think it was a good way of
• 1:29:14
  showing, you know, how religion can be like, both a burden and a
• 1:29:18
  blessing, depending on how it's used and applied to your life.
• 1:29:21
  Yeah. When it's applied against you
• 1:29:23
  forcefully, obviously, like, that's a problem.
• 1:29:26
  But when you choose something like, think about, like Father
• 1:29:29
  Cooper, like it can be a means of, like, finding a safe space
• 1:29:34
  or a sense of control or meaning.
• 1:29:36
  So it just kind of all depends. Do you think this person likes
• 1:29:40
  Carrie, or do you think that they hate Carrie because of
• 1:29:43
  that? I don't know.
• 1:29:44
  They didn't even mention Carrie. They just talk about the
• 1:29:46
  exorcist. Yeah, that was the.
• 1:29:48
  I think maybe this person has some trauma with the church.
• 1:29:52
  See. Yeah, they they handle it a
• 1:29:54
  little bit differently in Carrie too.
• 1:29:56
  I think so. I don't know.
• 1:29:58
  But yeah, normally I am also a fan of just stick with like the
• 1:30:03
  thing. Like if I have a slasher
• 1:30:05
  franchise and they go into Supernatural, it's not exactly
• 1:30:10
  my cup of tea. But this one right here, I liked
• 1:30:12
  it because like, they didn't necessarily establish that
• 1:30:15
  pattern before. Yeah, it just, and I mean
• 1:30:19
  honestly like this is one of those that I kind of like, but
• 1:30:22
  it got tagged on with that franchise name because would it
• 1:30:26
  have been as easy to find or is interesting to like grab your
• 1:30:30
  attention and make you want to watch without having that?
• 1:30:33
  I honestly don't know. What was the original name of
• 1:30:36
  the movie in? The haunting at Hamilton High.
• 1:30:38
  Yeah, see, that's the only name. Yeah, but hello, Mary Lou.
• 1:30:41
  Prom Night too, Ryan. And also I watch Prom Night.
• 1:30:44
  Yeah, check this out. Sounds interesting.
• 1:30:46
  Yeah, exactly. It worked.
• 1:30:48
  It it did exactly what they were wanting it to do.
• 1:30:52
  Yeah, OK. Do we have listener reviews We
• 1:30:55
  do? OK, OK, so I have one I'm
• 1:30:59
  checking right now because we posted this a little bit late.
• 1:31:02
  Yeah, this weekend is all funky with our.
• 1:31:05
  Timing, Yeah. OK.
• 1:31:07
  So I got one here on Twitter from Kevykev.
• 1:31:10
  What's up? Kev says.
• 1:31:12
  I was 12 when this came out and I thought Mary Lou was one of
• 1:31:15
  the most Beautiful Creatures I've ever seen.
• 1:31:17
  Based solely on the poster, the movie itself is pretty damn wild
• 1:31:20
  and goes really hard conceptually.
• 1:31:22
  So many crazy moments. I love that aspect of it.
• 1:31:24
  Two thumbs up. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:31:27
  I I like that. This movie just, God, it just
• 1:31:29
  has fun with its premise. Yeah, you can tell it's a movie
• 1:31:32
  that's written by somebody who likes horror movies.
• 1:31:35
  They're not just writing cuz they're like, I like heard
• 1:31:37
  horror movies or an easy genre to write.
• 1:31:40
  Yeah, he's just like, I fucking love horror and I wanna make one
• 1:31:43
  of them. I think it would have been
• 1:31:44
  awesome, man, to see what they would have done had they given
• 1:31:47
  this person more money. I know it was their first movie,
• 1:31:50
  technically, I think so, like it was his.
• 1:31:53
  First writing it was. Maybe the director had more
• 1:31:55
  experience, I don't know. But still, like if they had more
• 1:31:58
  money, this thing could have been amped up so much.
• 1:32:01
  It could have been amazing. It's already amazing, but it
• 1:32:04
  could have been even more amazing.
• 1:32:05
  Yeah, OK And final review over on Instagram from Keep Saves.
• 1:32:12
  Who says I love this movie? The bedroom Horace is the exact
• 1:32:16
  reason why, but the fucking bedroom horse is one of my
• 1:32:21
  favorite things. God, it's so great.
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  It. Creeps me out.
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  I love. That it just has a tongue that
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  just moves and it has the evil eyes.
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  And I like that it becomes sort of companion.
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  I feel like that thing had to have been custom made for her to
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  be able to fit on it. I know, right?
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  Like. Wendy Lyon.
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  I mean, granted, she's a slip of a thing, but she's also a full
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  adult. Yeah, she's.
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  Full. She's full grown, like she's at
• 1:32:42
  least over 5 feet tall. Yeah, which most of those are
• 1:32:44
  made for children who are not usually that large.
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  So, and she was pretty comfortably rocking on that.
• 1:32:51
  Thing. Yeah, it feels like it had to
• 1:32:53
  have been custom made for it to not look like the man we saw on
• 1:32:57
  his child's motorized bike. I kind of love one, honestly.
• 1:33:01
  I think that would be a great addition to have in our room
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  here. The little rocking horse we're
• 1:33:05
  in our bedroom maybe. No, no, no.
• 1:33:10
  Sure. What if I what if you, like,
• 1:33:14
  come home one day this week and there's just, like, a big box
• 1:33:16
  waiting on her porch? I'm like, honey, you're never
• 1:33:19
  gonna believe the deal I got. Can you just picture your scout
• 1:33:21
  like laying on the saddle of the horse?
• 1:33:24
  I couldn't see Scout just straight up like rocking on it
• 1:33:27
  in the middle of the night. Like I wake up and hear like,
• 1:33:29
  oh, increase it, great. Great.
• 1:33:30
  Like she's making it. Scoot forward as she's rocking
• 1:33:33
  it. So she gets around the whole,
• 1:33:35
  yeah, it's a long time because it's got to rock its way over
• 1:33:38
  there. She would fully like use
• 1:33:44
  evolution, like kind of accelerated evolution and loose
• 1:33:47
  her legs. Yeah, yeah, no scouts.
• 1:33:49
  Whole thing with evolution. She's like, yes, please, let's
• 1:33:51
  make us as efficient as possible so I don't have to do this shit
• 1:33:54
  myself. And also just rocking over.
• 1:33:57
  Statues of domestication is not bad enough.
• 1:34:01
  Oh man. Well, I gotta get it now.
• 1:34:04
  It's gotta happen. Oh God.
• 1:34:06
  OK. So those are our reviews all.
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• 1:34:18
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• 1:34:23
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• 1:34:28
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• 1:34:31
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• 1:34:33
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• 1:34:42
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• 1:34:46
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• 1:34:48
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