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Purdue-USC Preview with Jake Dunn & Michelle Garmon (2.25.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: What you are listening to now is the Purdue U.S.C.
• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: football preview with our Purdue Guy Jake Dunn and Tipton Tribune in Elwood College or Sports Editor Michelle Garmin.
• 0:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's an IU fan, but she's my sidekick and wanted to give her opinion on where the Purdue program is at this point.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Please remember that we also have a weekly Purdue report with Jake and often we have some guests.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And after each game we will have our reaction podcast with Jake as well.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, often with some guests breaking down the game.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: This week it will not be on Saturday right after the game.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It will be on Sunday, but we will have one for every single game who preview, react, and have a Purdue report every week from now until April.
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Please join us here with City to the Central Indiana Sports Report with your host Greg Midgowns.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, Boyle or Maker fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for today's Purdue report with Jake Dunn.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake has been talking the last couple of weeks about the unbeaten Purdue Boyle or Maker's 210.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: best start since 1904 under a new coach, Jake we're so excited.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am also here with Michelle Garmin who recommended Jake to me.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Michelle is an IU grad and an IU fan, but we wanted to get an outsider perspective and see what her predictions are going to be for this game.
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake and I talked a little bit about USC the other day and we're going to talk a little bit
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: if they compete to are just competitive with USC and show some promise and can win two big ten games is not the goal.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's a pretty nice goal.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think many people are out here expecting Purdue to go to a bowl game.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think this is really just a fundamental foundational first year for a new coach, Barry Odom, and Abby Alley, as you mentioned, produce two
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: kind of announced their their presence on the national stage.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as we talked about Jake produce a what 21 and a half point underdog.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, 21 points.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think playing within that would kind of be a when we said on the last podcast Michelle that moral victories, you know, not a big fan of them, but
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: If they play with him the spread here, I would say this, Jake, I told Greg that if Purdue is going to get an upset this year and maybe make it a little bit of noise, is a perfect setting this weekend because they're celebrating the 25 year anniversary of a Rose Bowl team to read those teams back, a lot of those players are going to come back.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: It should be an electric atmosphere with USC.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: There are two and oh, so crowds gonna be good and they're gonna be noisy.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: If Purdue is going to have a,
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: shock the world moment.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to have to be this weekend because they will be swiftly brought back to reality.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that is correct.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, couldn't agree more there.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Really good opportunity like I could mention here to to shock the world and and you're like kind of come out on a national stage.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So and honestly, Jake, we have no idea if USC is any good.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: They weren't very good last year.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: They haven't been really very good for the last couple of years and their first two games were Missouri State and Georgia Southern, which makes IU schedule look like.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know we talked about last time about to see struggles outside of the Western time zone, Western Mountain time zones, last year they lost to a pretty.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: be Yoker, Minnesota, Maryland team.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know we can't really say much of this produced fans, but those teams weren't world beaters.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, I mean, anybody's game we've got familiarity with both players and coaches on the staff's, it's, I'm hoping it'll be a little closer than that 21 points bread.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when you look at USC Notre Dame back to back man.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: That looks daunting.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It really is daunting, but like Michelle said, if you're going to win one, you're probably wanted to be out USC because you still have on their schedule, number nine, they'll annoy number 22 in the end, number 23, Michigan, and number one Ohio State.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So USC is probably below the mean.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're going to win
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: If I produce going to kind of, this is going to be the first weekend they're going to kind of find out really how good they are, is it can be their first really true test against a real team or our team that's got really good players, you know, there are some teams that you play that have NFL players or NFL pedigrees and USC definitely has that maybe not in the upper power conferences like when you schedule them and, you know, they can have.
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Purdue really hasn't seen that in the first two weeks with the teams they play.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's going to be a good evaluation too to where to see just how good their core back is.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, high on them right now.
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: His numbers look good.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Again, you know, pressure, now I know USC has not had a great defense under, but no, there's things to they have given up 33 points.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you, you, you, um, USC, I guess it all depends on how much those players won't like Lincoln rally to still be around.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because if they lose this one, you will become, I mean, they already said that he has seats warm, adding into the season.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yep, he'll be in the frying pan for sure.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think, yeah, for exactly.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake, when Michelle joins us on the Purdue Report during basketball season, you think it'll go this nicely.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You think she'll be this complimentary?
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so.
• 6:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so either.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: What would Michelle, but I think it might get a little more hostile during basketball season.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It ain't except for one thing.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have liked watching Brainsmith play since he was, since I saw him play as a pressman at Westfield.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: According to ESPN analytics, Purdue has a 7.3% chance of winning this game, Jake, in your mind.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: The chances of that are better or worse.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'd say better.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we talked about the home environment, just what's at stake here.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: It's really good.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: really not a lot of pressure on Purdue.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're already better than they were last year.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, from a record standpoint, obviously, this coach's staff wants to win.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I think from a fans perspective, there's not too many, too many winnable games on the schedules at any sort of upset that we can get as like a talk bell at, you know, earlier the week is just gravy.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I'd say because of the stakes, because of kind of the opportunity that is here for Purdue to really,
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: make their mark under the new staff.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would say, I don't know if it's much higher, but it's definitely higher than 7.5 or whatever percent it was.
• 7:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Michelle, better or worse since 7.3% chance of winning.
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's better.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Only because as Jake already mentioned, USC does not last year, they did not fare well when they traveled west for the victim games.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Eventually, they've not, you know, yeah, but a good difference of team for a while.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, that said the key will be can produce defense hang with USC's athletes that they have on offense.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we know USC gets athletes.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing we know for sure.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: We do.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, so can they, can they do that?
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, it will be interesting.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jayden my last year, and through 21 games, I think it was last year, had 16 interceptions.
• 8:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: So if producing just some pressure on them and make some bad mistakes, your bad reads, Purdue does have a chance, but if they're not going to be able to get pressure, and you're going to force them out of his comfort zone, then it's going to be a long, long afternoon for the boilers.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that the car or the receivers and stuff down field, and if they can't, if they can't
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they can cover those receivers consistently down the field.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be interesting.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a big game for Purdue not just for winning this season, but they need to beat a USC when it comes time as far as recruiting.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because right now, as far as top recruits are picking a university of sending it that's in the state of Indiana.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right now, Purdue's behind Notre Dame Anne, and I, you,
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: right now comes ahead of them making, you know, and it used to be opposite.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: So this is Purdue needs a statement when or to, you know, this year.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: So they could kind of get back and gain some traction in the recruiting, especially for.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the next level that we're trying to get to.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's Purdue fans, just be competitive in most games.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, and does the crowd stay?
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Did they continue to have great crowds?
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: If, say, USC comes in, they blow them out, and then they go to Notre Dame, and they get blown out.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Those fans still gonna show up and hang out,
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: and stay a nice weather and everything and you know, students was excitement, they wrote them, brought excitement and I'm going to be honest.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm very old and has brought excited.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think Purdue is like, okay, we saw what Kurt Signetti did at IU.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: No doubt.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is our thing and let's, it's, and let's.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just like I you see in what Purdue is doing in basketball and saying, let's do that.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't really get their last two coaching hires.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Anybody, I'll tell you, I was not in favor really of either one of the last two, are you basketball coaching hired, I do like to freeze, I will say this.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I do like him.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like what he stands for the connection.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think you have to come in what Matt Painter has done, what Tom Crane did at IU when he kind of to rebuild that program after it got decimated.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: what Signetti did and I think Odom is doing that trying to do that for due to and it's having some success.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have to connect with the students for her.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: You need the students to believe in you and want to show up.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Classic Netties and I'd like to make them feel important.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then you've got to go out and you've got to connect with your family.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is kind of interesting, Jake, that the two programs are trying to emulate each other in the
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: that Purdue would be trying to emulate IU and football.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And never would have thought that would happen.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think Jake, there's any really doubt that IU is what Purdue is shooting for.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: IU is now.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, with the changes of the transfer portal and kind of just the state of college sports today, you look and see that somebody two hours away is doing, you know, turn a whole program around in a year.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Not only Purdue, but it's just,
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: other places or all across the country are trying to to emulate what I use doing.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think what makes curve signetti stand out and why other teams and even people that brought in established coaches even last year didn't have that same success because what I like about signetti as a coach is the same thing that I like about my painer as a coach.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: They hold players accountable, they speak truth.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: If they get a win, but they didn't play well, they're not going to say, oh boy, we got to win, celebrate a win.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: We didn't play when we had a lot to clean up.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: If we want this, we've got to do this.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a win, yes, we're not going to have to, you know, it's always nice to get a win, but we're not going to win many more games if we continue to do these things.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And or players aren't living up to the standards that we have in our program.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, Cincinnati's talked about that great coaches, know how important the little things are and discipline and just being flat out on us.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with Michelle.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: The final word is your prediction.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is the score going to be on Saturday?
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I won't be shocked if Purdue would pull off the upset.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm going to go with USC and I'm going to go with them by 10 to 14 points.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think Purdue is going to have a hard time stopping USC from from scoring 35 24 21 24.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that it won't be that high score.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it'll be as high scoring because I think Purdue's offensive line is good enough to control the line of scrimmage and maybe have some long drives turnovers are going to be a big deal.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's still USC going away.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that 15 number that Sagram says it's going to be and I'll say 35 20 Jake, your pick.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: I, yeah, I think naturally I'm kind of an optimistic miss and think there there is always going to be a lot of point scored in games.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I guess I'm more of a realist in terms of the result of the game where I, I see USC coming out with the win, 41, 28, so USC by 13 is my prediction.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: If the game goes the way that we all suspect that it will, I think will be pretty happy.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Boyle and Mega Nation will be pretty happy and things will be heading in the right direction.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: If it goes the way the rest of the world thinks it's going to go, we might have a different podcast next week.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake, we might be talking about basketball early.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: the thing about this season is we're not going to win every game.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're not, you know, some game is worse than having to be close in any of them.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I think this, what Purdue fans are looking for is just to be competitive, be close, show that we can compete, you know, maybe not this year, but.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: next year or the year after.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes we we'd love to be like a like an IU as a football program and be able to turn you know the the ship around in any year but you know so enough that's going to happen this year so be competitive the E-tuff played discipline football which they have so far I think it gives just boymaker fans something to be proud of
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, maybe they can have a year like I use had some years where they've been with good teams through three quarters and then unfortunately got blown out in the fourth quarter for Purdue after what they went through last year, that's baby steps forward and then absolutely good enough next year for them to want to be returned, but this year if they could do that in the big games and be competitive at least into the third quarter, that will be, I know people are not there.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: True great head coaches and there's no things more victories, but for the fans that will be for the players that's not acceptable for the fans that will keep them engaged in interest in an optimistic about the program.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Could you imagine if you know Notre Dame stays Notre Dame if I you can continue their success and a Purdue can kind of get to that level and you know three top 25 type teams yeah yeah I mean I think I think you know that that's
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, when Peyton Manning got jacked with the colds, they kind of kind of turned it in the end a little bit of a football state and I think we could have a similar effect for college sports.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: I guess it might be a little bit of a long shot, but if we can get all three Notre Dame Purdue and I, you all kind of count 25 programs and make that do a lot for the sport of football in our state.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I would.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake Michelle, thank you so much and boil it up.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Roll it up.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: The central Indian Esports Report is a product of ITG media, and I love Susie.