Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / One on One: Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in, kiss you, I am all in
- 0:17Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Hey everybody,
- 0:22Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, we are going to be talking to one
- 0:26Speaker 1: of the great New York theater actors of his time,
- 0:30Speaker 1: Lawrence Hilton Jacobs. Um. He has many credits that you
- 0:34Speaker 1: know him from. We're gonna get into all that. Very
- 0:37Speaker 1: excited to talk to him, reconnect with him. Super talented guy,
- 0:42Speaker 1: a quintessential New York actor. And let's bring him on.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Lawrence Hilton Jacobs. Ladies and gentlemen, he is here. You
- 0:50Speaker 1: were part of my childhood watching you and welcome back Connor,
- 0:55Speaker 1: that brilliant comedy. Um, so, how are you doing? What's
- 0:59Speaker 1: going on? Oh good man? Keeping it busy, you know,
- 1:02Speaker 1: and stuff like that. You know, Um, you know, kids
- 1:05Speaker 1: are big. You know, we got grandkids, you know, the drails.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Look at the youngest one is twelve out of my
- 1:11Speaker 1: grand babies, and so you know, she's developing, she's becoming
- 1:16Speaker 1: young ladies taking me out and uh, well it's wonderful
- 1:22Speaker 1: to watch them all grow up, isn't it. It's just
- 1:23Speaker 1: such a wonder man. How you holding. I'm doing good?
- 1:27Speaker 1: You know, I'm in Halifax. Shooting a TV series. I
- 1:31Speaker 1: missed my I missed my boy more and more every day.
- 1:34Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna get through this, but
- 1:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna gonna have to get through it. Um miss
- 1:38Speaker 1: my wife, I miss everybody. It's just it's it's hard
- 1:41Speaker 1: to be on location. I'm sixty three years old now
- 1:45Speaker 1: and I'm on location and I never thought i would
- 1:47Speaker 1: be on location at this age. But you know, it's
- 1:49Speaker 1: a great job. But can what can you do? You know,
- 1:52Speaker 1: it's a it's a great role, it's a great part.
- 1:54Speaker 1: So the family that we're down with them because they
- 1:57Speaker 1: know that, and we just have to roll with the
- 1:59Speaker 1: dice and you know, the actor's life. Well, look, thanks
- 2:03Speaker 1: for coming in. You played principal Martin. How did you
- 2:07Speaker 1: get cast? Tell us about it. It's funny man on casting,
- 2:10Speaker 1: But I was the only male up for that gig.
- 2:13Speaker 1: That was I was like, you know, I don't think
- 2:16Speaker 1: it was gonna happen to you because I came in
- 2:18Speaker 1: and men and they have the audition process, and I
- 2:20Speaker 1: saw these females and a lot of one of the
- 2:22Speaker 1: actresses have been around for a long time, you know,
- 2:24Speaker 1: and so forth, and I was like, well, okay, Lee
- 2:27Speaker 1: was going to do my thing and I went in,
- 2:29Speaker 1: I popped on my glasses. That did it and didn't
- 2:31Speaker 1: let me leave the room. I told me I had
- 2:33Speaker 1: the parts. Nice. Um, why did you decide to go
- 2:39Speaker 1: into acting? And how did you break into the industry?
- 2:42Speaker 1: Because I was like, you were nuts, psychiatric help. I've
- 2:49Speaker 1: been doing it now five years. Man, you know I'm
- 2:53Speaker 1: coming to Sunday. I'm gonna be sixty nine, he said,
- 2:55Speaker 1: sixty three six coming up, you know. And um, I've
- 2:59Speaker 1: been doing it since um sixteen, nineteen sixty nine when
- 3:02Speaker 1: I got into the game, and um, you know, while
- 3:04Speaker 1: I was going to school of Art in design, I
- 3:06Speaker 1: grew up New York City, I just always wanted to
- 3:08Speaker 1: do it and try it, and you know, and as
- 3:10Speaker 1: a kid, I used to always um elementary school. They
- 3:13Speaker 1: always equip me in the place and always got to leave.
- 3:16Speaker 1: But it was like Peter and the Wolf, and I
- 3:17Speaker 1: guess it's just in you know, something like that. So
- 3:20Speaker 1: many remember you from Welcome Back Hodder. You play student,
- 3:24Speaker 1: and you years later on Gilmore Girls and you're a
- 3:28Speaker 1: school principal. What did you think of being back in
- 3:30Speaker 1: school setting, but this time playing an authority figure. I
- 3:34Speaker 1: didn't think of it in that way, you know. I
- 3:36Speaker 1: thought of it as let me do a good job
- 3:37Speaker 1: and learn the lines, and then the Gilmore girls you
- 3:39Speaker 1: have to learn the lines exactly as they are. It
- 3:44Speaker 1: was fun, you know. It's always interesting to try something
- 3:46Speaker 1: different or something that um can stretch you as an actor,
- 3:50Speaker 1: you know, and I've been I've been blessed in that way.
- 3:52Speaker 1: I've been able to play a moder variety of roles
- 3:54Speaker 1: over the many years of doing it. So it was fun.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I know. We had a little back and forth when
- 3:59Speaker 1: there was kind of you know, and um, we were
- 4:01Speaker 1: into it and so well I think we did all right.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Oh yeah, um, so we just recapped that episode Keg
- 4:08Speaker 1: Max where you played a pivotal role in justice life
- 4:10Speaker 1: and telling me he isn't graduating high school. Do you
- 4:12Speaker 1: remember the scene? You know something? I remember both of
- 4:15Speaker 1: them because I did him a you're apart. I remember
- 4:18Speaker 1: the first one was with the was the first one
- 4:19Speaker 1: with you. The second one was with you the second
- 4:22Speaker 1: year we have done the scene. I think the first
- 4:25Speaker 1: I think the first one was with me. It was
- 4:28Speaker 1: with you. Okay, I'm getting flipped and but but I
- 4:30Speaker 1: remember the young man coming in, and um, he was
- 4:32Speaker 1: a nice dude. You know, we talked and I mean,
- 4:35Speaker 1: you know, you don't remember everything. You kind of getting
- 4:38Speaker 1: around a while, but remember the experience was good. Um,
- 4:41Speaker 1: it moved pretty quickly and so forth, and so there
- 4:46Speaker 1: it is. Man, Yeah, so what so you recall Milo
- 4:50Speaker 1: was a nice young kid and um, as an actor,
- 4:53Speaker 1: he was definitely ready and on on, which you know,
- 4:56Speaker 1: we always gonna appreciate. Um. You know, your show was
- 4:59Speaker 1: the show that was very exacting on how you had
- 5:02Speaker 1: to perform something in terms of dialogue and so forth.
- 5:05Speaker 1: But I didn't feel restrained by that. But we're able
- 5:07Speaker 1: to find a little give and take with each other
- 5:08Speaker 1: that had some spontaneity in it. So that meant he
- 5:11Speaker 1: was a responsive young man. And um, so that that
- 5:14Speaker 1: enlightened me. Mm hmmmmm. Um. So what was your experience
- 5:19Speaker 1: like on the set compared to others? Um? Uh, you know,
- 5:25Speaker 1: when you're doing television as we've done for a lot
- 5:27Speaker 1: of the years, especially when we did Welcome mcconter, we
- 5:30Speaker 1: had dialogue, but we could be loose with it at times,
- 5:32Speaker 1: you know, and many times would have happened on camera
- 5:35Speaker 1: that became the lore of the show. We made it
- 5:37Speaker 1: up on the spot and somehow we just knew how
- 5:39Speaker 1: to respond. That ain't the Gilmore Girls. You know you
- 5:42Speaker 1: gotta written has got to be this and and so forth. So, um,
- 5:46Speaker 1: that made you really pay attention and it woke me
- 5:48Speaker 1: up a little bit. But on the set it right,
- 5:51Speaker 1: It is very very nice, you know, it was. You
- 5:52Speaker 1: could feel it as a family crew or a crew.
- 5:54Speaker 1: People are familiar with one another, so nobody tripped. They
- 5:57Speaker 1: were certainly very nice to me, um, and I was
- 6:01Speaker 1: nice to them as well. So all right, Um, had
- 6:06Speaker 1: you watched Gilmore Girls before taking the role? You know
- 6:10Speaker 1: something I had seen. It's like a lot of television. Um,
- 6:13Speaker 1: when you're in television as long as I've been in it,
- 6:15Speaker 1: you don't watch a lot of shows, which may not
- 6:17Speaker 1: be a good advertisement for our game, but it is.
- 6:19Speaker 1: But I had seen many clips and so I had
- 6:21Speaker 1: a feeling with the Gilmore Girls about this is the
- 6:23Speaker 1: popular show and on the c W back in that day,
- 6:25Speaker 1: so it was there. So I was very aware of
- 6:28Speaker 1: the mother and the daughter and the whole nine thing.
- 6:31Speaker 1: So I had a feeling what it was about. And
- 6:32Speaker 1: I like the show. I know some of my um
- 6:37Speaker 1: younger family. Uh you never know anywhere, but younger than
- 6:40Speaker 1: when they saw it. They were like lightening. Well that's
- 6:41Speaker 1: my favorite chilly Compare what it was like working back
- 6:52Speaker 1: in the seven early seventies, like Cornor was on. What
- 6:55Speaker 1: were the years? It was early seventies and mid seventies,
- 6:57Speaker 1: five to seventy nine, five seven nine, So what was
- 7:02Speaker 1: tell us how different it was back then compared to now.
- 7:05Speaker 1: You know a lot of television television as well as
- 7:08Speaker 1: movie still had movie stars and big stars. There was
- 7:10Speaker 1: a lot of fanfare behind that. When we did the
- 7:12Speaker 1: Welcome Macato Show, you did the show where you came
- 7:15Speaker 1: in on a Monday, you had to read through with
- 7:17Speaker 1: the cast and the crew and all you know, the
- 7:20Speaker 1: staff and so forth. Then you gotta when you started
- 7:22Speaker 1: rehearsing on its feet. You did that for a couple
- 7:24Speaker 1: of days. By Wednesday you would do it again, but
- 7:26Speaker 1: this time the network would come in and give their
- 7:27Speaker 1: approvals and make the changes. Then Thursday would come around
- 7:30Speaker 1: and we would block the show. The camera block it
- 7:33Speaker 1: will they Then on the fifth day, which is Friday,
- 7:35Speaker 1: you get it was being rewritten all the way. You
- 7:38Speaker 1: get your rewrites delivered to you early that morning. You
- 7:40Speaker 1: get to work by twelve thirty day afternoon, and then
- 7:42Speaker 1: you really pin, you know, fine tune what you've been
- 7:45Speaker 1: rehearsing in terms of camshots and so forth. And then
- 7:48Speaker 1: at five thirty we would do an earlier show with
- 7:50Speaker 1: an audience of three hundred. We should call at the
- 7:52Speaker 1: out of town tryouts. And then you do that, and
- 7:57Speaker 1: then we go off to dinner and we get notes,
- 7:58Speaker 1: and then we come back and we do an eight
- 8:00Speaker 1: collection with a new audience and three people, and that
- 8:03Speaker 1: that was over. We might do some pickups. Now, in
- 8:05Speaker 1: the beginning we first did it, we were there. We'd
- 8:09Speaker 1: come to work and we'd be there to tow three
- 8:10Speaker 1: in the morning shooting. But you get your show down,
- 8:13Speaker 1: you know, after a while. By the time we got
- 8:15Speaker 1: into the third year, certainly the fourth year, I mean
- 8:18Speaker 1: we're out of that. Studios passed, we really got notes,
- 8:20Speaker 1: we shot it, we were at it about not thirty
- 8:21Speaker 1: and night we're done. Wow. You know. Even rehearsals, we
- 8:25Speaker 1: would come in and rehearsals used to be at like
- 8:27Speaker 1: nine am, and it would go till six. Eventually it
- 8:30Speaker 1: became like eleven to four. I would sit down with
- 8:32Speaker 1: not not even trying to memorize it, read the script
- 8:35Speaker 1: and know it. It just it just got to be
- 8:38Speaker 1: like that for right, right right, and and you know
- 8:42Speaker 1: that's the difference thing working on a sitcom in front
- 8:44Speaker 1: of a live audience as opposed to working on a
- 8:47Speaker 1: show like Gilmore Girls. You do you like it better
- 8:51Speaker 1: in front of a live one? Did you like the
- 8:52Speaker 1: conter four or four camera live audience sitcom better than anything?
- 8:57Speaker 1: I think you make the adjustments that you go along
- 8:59Speaker 1: least that's might take on it. Um I came, I
- 9:01Speaker 1: come from theater. Is a lot of us, do you know?
- 9:03Speaker 1: I did different guys growing up as an actor and
- 9:05Speaker 1: living in New York City. Um, I learned to make
- 9:08Speaker 1: the adjustments. I started doing a lot of film before
- 9:10Speaker 1: I ever came to the sitcom thing. And when we
- 9:12Speaker 1: got in there with the four camera, the three cameras
- 9:14Speaker 1: in the one fourth camera as an isolator which they
- 9:17Speaker 1: call iso camera, you make the adjustments and so forth
- 9:20Speaker 1: and so um is there a preference? Um? Probably the
- 9:23Speaker 1: future films I like doing. I like doing the film
- 9:25Speaker 1: thing more like what you guys are doing. But doesn't
- 9:28Speaker 1: make any difference to me. No, you know, you just
- 9:30Speaker 1: make the adjustment and you, um, you understand that you
- 9:33Speaker 1: have to lay yourself back a certain way if you're
- 9:34Speaker 1: doing television, or you have to deliver it a certain
- 9:36Speaker 1: way if you're doing theater, and you just um step
- 9:39Speaker 1: up to that to that flavor, right right, right. So
- 9:42Speaker 1: you so you did a lot of New York theater.
- 9:44Speaker 1: You did you work with Joe Pop? Did you work
- 9:46Speaker 1: with uh? That wasn't When I went out one summer
- 9:48Speaker 1: with Joe Pap doing um, the New York Shakespeare Festival,
- 9:51Speaker 1: we did um ceremonies and UM when a ceremonies in
- 9:53Speaker 1: different what the wine sellers by with Joe Pap and
- 9:57Speaker 1: Joe Pap was really this is what he always did.
- 9:58Speaker 1: He was he would come around, he'd be a nice guy.
- 10:01Speaker 1: He always brought this I don't know if he came
- 10:02Speaker 1: out of the celling he read this this uh box
- 10:05Speaker 1: with all these wines and they came out of this
- 10:07Speaker 1: big creep and he gave everybody a bottle of wine
- 10:09Speaker 1: and thank you and this episode joke right, Uh, did
- 10:15Speaker 1: you ever? Did you ever work at the circle wrapper
- 10:17Speaker 1: place like that? A circle rapper? I auditioned for Joyce
- 10:20Speaker 1: Scott and didn't get the part George Sea, thank you, um,
- 10:25Speaker 1: but I tell you down at the public theater, and
- 10:26Speaker 1: we were down here a really enlightening thing for me
- 10:28Speaker 1: is um. Other people were always rehearsing work there. So
- 10:32Speaker 1: there was a young actor who was just about to happen,
- 10:35Speaker 1: and he was a North Broadway star and he was
- 10:36Speaker 1: rehearsing and he was no further further than maybe five
- 10:39Speaker 1: feet from me. And I'm in the audience watching him
- 10:41Speaker 1: rehearsed with the strip in his hand, and he's intense
- 10:44Speaker 1: and he's into his thing, and he's so there's Alpaccino. Man. Wow.
- 10:50Speaker 1: And then and there was like local joking dude, he
- 10:54Speaker 1: walks in. It was Morgan Freeman. So this is what happened.
- 10:56Speaker 1: This is the kind of people who was floating in
- 10:57Speaker 1: out and Dick, Anthony Williams and Roscoe round and oh man,
- 11:01Speaker 1: it was a nutsman. Johnny could say a lot of them, catchman.
- 11:03Speaker 1: I would see them all the time down there and
- 11:06Speaker 1: then get to know some of them and talk to them.
- 11:08Speaker 1: So for a young actor it was super education. So
- 11:11Speaker 1: that they all came through the public theater as well.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Everybody had stepped through the public theater that ever took
- 11:16Speaker 1: a step in New York City and wanted to be
- 11:18Speaker 1: an actor. We had down there. There was also the
- 11:20Speaker 1: Lamana Theater. There was you know, there was a new Um,
- 11:25Speaker 1: the New Federal you know theater down there with Whitty
- 11:27Speaker 1: King Jr. Ran forever until he retired recently, and um,
- 11:31Speaker 1: we all had our steps. There was was the Wooster
- 11:33Speaker 1: group going that weren't going back in the seventy front.
- 11:36Speaker 1: That's Willem Dafoe and Elizabeth the Compton um not knowing
- 11:42Speaker 1: that super super they were down on Garage Street or
- 11:46Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, it was just like this
- 11:47Speaker 1: super experimental stuff, that stuff going on down in the village,
- 11:51Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, the Lama, it was like that.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Mama did a lot of Yeah. I studied out of
- 11:56Speaker 1: the New Ensemble Company and then up in Harlem at
- 11:59Speaker 1: the Fantastical Ensemble. You know. Um, I had two days
- 12:03Speaker 1: in the actor's studio, did you Yeah, you know, I
- 12:07Speaker 1: mean there there was always gonna be really difficult to
- 12:09Speaker 1: get into the actor's studio. So listen, I walked up
- 12:12Speaker 1: to the door and they didn't they said, you're in.
- 12:14Speaker 1: I was shocked. I guess they had seen I've done
- 12:16Speaker 1: a movie called Clodian, you know, and so they had
- 12:19Speaker 1: seen that movie and so they knew me. They said, no,
- 12:20Speaker 1: you're in. And then two days later I got Coolie high,
- 12:23Speaker 1: so I had to split. So the actor's studio admitted
- 12:27Speaker 1: you as a member without auditioning because they've seen you
- 12:31Speaker 1: in a film. That's my assumption. These So they didn't
- 12:34Speaker 1: give me any they didn't give me no, no preamble,
- 12:36Speaker 1: and they said, okay, you're I came in and set
- 12:39Speaker 1: a couple of times to see people doing that thing.
- 12:41Speaker 1: You know. Didn't do it with Eli Strassburg, but other
- 12:43Speaker 1: teachers were there. And that was gone for six weeks,
- 12:47Speaker 1: six and a half weeks in Chicago doing COOLi hut
- 12:49Speaker 1: I was. I was an observer there for a couple
- 12:51Speaker 1: of years. I did a bunch of plays there, but
- 12:53Speaker 1: I never I auditioned once and they stopped me in
- 12:56Speaker 1: the first two and a half minutes. So it's like
- 12:59Speaker 1: they were shattering. But they never they never let anybody
- 13:02Speaker 1: buy after their first audition. Never the front door there,
- 13:07Speaker 1: you know, when you went in there and it was
- 13:08Speaker 1: all closed off in that little bobby, you know, and
- 13:10Speaker 1: they had this little slip thing they you know, they
- 13:12Speaker 1: opened up and looked like you know, Joe sent me.
- 13:14Speaker 1: It almost felt like, you know how that just worked out,
- 13:20Speaker 1: you know with me. So I had to act studio,
- 13:23Speaker 1: very intense experience in there. That that was That was
- 13:26Speaker 1: something um um. So you're currently working on a series
- 13:30Speaker 1: called A House Divided on Amazon Prime and All Black
- 13:34Speaker 1: or A L L B l K All TV, which
- 13:38Speaker 1: also Amazon Prime. It's underwritten by A mc amaz We're
- 13:42Speaker 1: doing that now for about three years. We just finished
- 13:45Speaker 1: a fifth season and playing this super lely rich guy
- 13:48Speaker 1: who's got a family of problem children and everybody else
- 13:51Speaker 1: and we're going through the most intense drama this last season,
- 13:55Speaker 1: which is coming out in October. They decided to make
- 13:58Speaker 1: me go nuts and I was having all just losing
- 14:00Speaker 1: my mind. So I'm missing everybody up, I'm having a
- 14:03Speaker 1: good time with and and that's that's Cameron Sanders, the
- 14:07Speaker 1: character of Cameron Sanders writing. I'm directing, and they got
- 14:11Speaker 1: me doing it all man so and I'm one of
- 14:13Speaker 1: the co producers on the show. So it's pretty cool.
- 14:15Speaker 1: All right. So check out Lawrence Hilton Jacobs and the
- 14:19Speaker 1: Amazon Prime House Divided. Uh, you'll be glad you did.
- 14:23Speaker 1: You also have a film coming out this October called
- 14:26Speaker 1: night Stalker. What can you tell us about it? We
- 14:28Speaker 1: don't start until a late part of October, and it's
- 14:32Speaker 1: based on a true story about a serial killer whoever
- 14:34Speaker 1: were killing a lot of women in Atlantic City and
- 14:37Speaker 1: then eventually went up to Long Island and they can
- 14:39Speaker 1: They never knew who this guy was, so they made
- 14:42Speaker 1: a story based on that with myself in two hot
- 14:44Speaker 1: shot female detectives and who come to the wrong jurisdiction.
- 14:48Speaker 1: But we gotta get this guy. And so that's the
- 14:51Speaker 1: through line of the film. Now, in real life, I
- 14:53Speaker 1: heard from the director, whose name is Keith Veil that Um,
- 14:56Speaker 1: the guy who had um was the elusive killer. They
- 15:00Speaker 1: found him, but he was a junkie and odeed and
- 15:02Speaker 1: he had an ode brother that I mean buddy that
- 15:05Speaker 1: you know, fested up about him. So did They didn't
- 15:08Speaker 1: rewrite the movie to put that in there because they
- 15:10Speaker 1: had a better in me. I just they like. But
- 15:12Speaker 1: but he gets his in the end, and you know
- 15:15Speaker 1: and um, I won't give it away, but um, but
- 15:17Speaker 1: I get him. Um. Okay, you're ready to play rapid fire,
- 15:24Speaker 1: Come on with it, man. How many coups of coffee
- 15:28Speaker 1: you have them? Every day. I don't drink coffee at all. None.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Who is your favorite Gilmore Girls character? The guy I'm
- 15:35Speaker 1: I'm looking at right now? There you go, There you go?
- 15:37Speaker 1: What would you order it? Luke's Diner? Um? Hamburger? Would
- 15:42Speaker 1: you rather go on a road trip with Taylor or Michelle? Um?
- 15:46Speaker 1: The jury is out? Yeah, that's probably neither. Uh finished
- 15:51Speaker 1: finished the lyric? And where you lead? I will follow?
- 15:55Speaker 1: What's the w where you go? I believe that's it.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I'm never remembering anywhere that you tell me? Too so close.
- 16:02Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna give you the We're gonna give
- 16:04Speaker 1: you the points on that one. Uh, Jackson's Vegetables or
- 16:09Speaker 1: Suki's Baked Goods Jackson's Vegetables. Man mean, yeah, you get
- 16:14Speaker 1: better believe it? Uh? Would you rather listen to Drella's
- 16:17Speaker 1: Harper the Trooper Doors cover songs? Trop Doors? I used
- 16:21Speaker 1: to go, hang up there? Are you kidding me? Children?
- 16:25Speaker 1: Prepper Stars Hollow Hi? Sit again? Chilton Prep or Stars
- 16:31Speaker 1: Hollow Hi? Oh Stars Hollow Hun. That's because you're the principal.
- 16:35Speaker 1: That's right, man, I'm in charge. Dare I tell people
- 16:37Speaker 1: were like what to do and maybe actually listen to me, Lawrence.
- 16:40Speaker 1: It was a pleasure talking to you, catching up with you,
- 16:44Speaker 1: and you are the real deal. I'm gonna read some
- 16:47Speaker 1: of your credits if you don't mind. Uh. You were
- 16:50Speaker 1: best known for playing Freddie Boom Boom Washington. Absolutely, welcome
- 16:56Speaker 1: back Carter, Welcome back Cotter. Uh oh, and you had
- 17:00Speaker 1: so much attitude. I remember when I was a kid
- 17:02Speaker 1: watch watching you. The attitude. I was like, Wow, that's good.
- 17:05Speaker 1: We're bout a little tough New York guys. When we
- 17:07Speaker 1: got all of us. You will also appear a number
- 17:12Speaker 1: of films and television use Glen Claudeine what you mentioned
- 17:15Speaker 1: got you into the actress studio Coolly High Roots Wow,
- 17:18Speaker 1: Roots was a massive television event. I don't know Roots.
- 17:23Speaker 1: This Sunday, I was at Glenn Terman's house that just
- 17:25Speaker 1: ranch has a ranch and you want to have a
- 17:26Speaker 1: bunch of people over. And I had not seen him
- 17:28Speaker 1: in years. I was sitting down with Ben Vereen from Roots.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Really in Years Man, which was just wow, Uh,
- 17:38Speaker 1: Bangers and Mash Alien Nation, The Jackson's in American Dream
- 17:42Speaker 1: and thirty one. Uh. Lawrence, has been a pleasure. Thank you.
- 17:47Speaker 1: You're the real deal. You're a real, real New York
- 17:51Speaker 1: theater actor who branched out and and uh got success
- 17:56Speaker 1: in film and television. Can't wait to check out the
- 17:58Speaker 1: new series. I'm gonna I'm gonna dig into it tonight,
- 18:01Speaker 1: I think. Okay, Uh, I'm good luck with your show,
- 18:05Speaker 1: you know. And keep on strolling, man, But get homes
- 18:07Speaker 1: and say hi today that sun man. Darn right, man,
- 18:09Speaker 1: I'm counting the days anyway. Much love, take care man,
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