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The King of I Do Part 2, Meghan King · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two. I'm Cheryl Burke,
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  Speaker 1: one of your celebrity mentors here on the podcast. This
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  Speaker 1: podcast has been fun for me because I'm an open book,
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  Speaker 1: as you guys know when it comes to my love journey,
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  Speaker 1: and on this show, I get to meet other people
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  Speaker 1: and talk about their own experience with love and heartbreak
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  Speaker 1: and second acts and how their experiences have shaped them.
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  Speaker 1: Today on the podcast, I'm going to be joined by
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  Speaker 1: someone who's had her fair share of heartbreak. You know
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  Speaker 1: her from the Real Housewives of Orange County. Please welcome
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  Speaker 1: Megan King to the pod. Well, first of all, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to I Do Part two. Would you say that you're
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  Speaker 1: in your I Do Phase Part two? Megan?
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  Speaker 2: Not really. I don't know, Like I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: did that a while ago.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So part three, I mean part like who's counting?
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I already did that. We're talking about the past.
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  Speaker 2: I Do purchase a while ago.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So how is it currently then?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm dating, but like, mainly I'm focusing on myself,
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  Speaker 2: my kids and money.
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  Speaker 1: Right, like your career and all of that, like hustling.
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  Speaker 2: Porting myself and my kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I saw your post that it was so
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  Speaker 1: you know, heartwarming, and reading your caption just felt I
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  Speaker 1: don't have kids, and I can't relate obviously, but it
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  Speaker 1: was super just transparent and honest, and I really appreciated that.
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  Speaker 1: And how was that whole experience with your daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, to be like on a trip with her back. Yeah, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, Like that was really moving for me. I
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  Speaker 2: knew that, I like, time with my children individually is
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  Speaker 2: really special, but I don't often get afforded that privilege
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  Speaker 2: because I'm a single mother, and I do have help
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  Speaker 2: because I have to because I'm a working mother. But
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  Speaker 2: like when I do have help, I take advantage of
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  Speaker 2: that by not being home, by working right, And so
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  Speaker 2: when I'm home, I have my three children with me
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  Speaker 2: at once, and it's really in my head it's always
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  Speaker 2: like a really special gift to be able to spend
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  Speaker 2: one on one time with them, and but like I
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  Speaker 2: never put like a whole lot of effort into that,
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  Speaker 2: And so when I was able to do this with
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  Speaker 2: my daughter, I was really looking forward to it. I
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  Speaker 2: took her skiing in Idaho and it was so amazing.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, it was really easy. One cake, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: he's a cake it was like nothinge it. It was
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  Speaker 2: like hanging out with a friend, and we realized how
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  Speaker 2: good of a.
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  Speaker 1: I am you are.
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  Speaker 3: I am always like trying to chase my tail all
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  Speaker 3: the three kids, and when I just had this one experience,
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  Speaker 3: I realized it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: You can celebrate like what you're doing because you're doing
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  Speaker 2: a good job.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think that was just like I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you just related to so many moms out there, but
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  Speaker 1: I do have to ask. I know you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the past, but we need to know
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about your love journey. And you know
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  Speaker 1: you saying you're being a single mom, and just remind
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  Speaker 1: our listeners what that in a short few sentences, what
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  Speaker 1: that is for you.
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  Speaker 2: I was married to my ex husband. We had our
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  Speaker 2: first daughter together via IVF. We recorded that journey on
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  Speaker 2: The Real Housewives of Orange County, and shortly after eighteen months,
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  Speaker 2: to be exact, I had twin boys. And shortly after that,
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  Speaker 2: I went through a very public scandal slash divorce with
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  Speaker 2: my ex husband and things have gotten progressively worse since.
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  Speaker 2: And it's been five years now and I've been five
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  Speaker 2: years a single mother minus like a little blip on
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  Speaker 2: the radar there of a big mistake called an annulment,
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  Speaker 2: but that was literally like three months of my life total.
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  Speaker 2: And here I am like still navigating the waters of
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  Speaker 2: single motherhood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you want to ever maybe play around
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  Speaker 1: with getting married again or is that just not on
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  Speaker 1: your radar? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I think like having a life partner for me is
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  Speaker 2: very important, and I want to hold with someone. But
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  Speaker 2: what I've learned through my relationship is that there's no
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  Speaker 2: one who's going to fill a void for me. There
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  Speaker 2: are voids, don't get me wrong in my life, but
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  Speaker 2: those voids need to be filled by myself and then
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  Speaker 2: I can accept someone who's going to enhance my life
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  Speaker 2: after that, not someone who's going to fill avoid because
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  Speaker 2: when I allow that void to be filled by another individual,
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  Speaker 2: that invites me to accept a lot of faults and
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  Speaker 2: turn a blind eye to red flags. And I realized
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  Speaker 2: that through some failed relationships, including that annulment that I
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  Speaker 2: spoke of, and that's not what we're doing anymore. And
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  Speaker 2: we got this five years. I've done this for five years.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how, but here I am surviving.
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  Speaker 1: I mean like an alcoholic, like I am an addict. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it's one day at a time. I haven't day in
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  Speaker 1: three years and I don't. I'm good, I am fine,
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  Speaker 1: And since my divorce, I'm like, I just have no interest.
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  Speaker 2: Really, why not?
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  Speaker 1: Because I owe it to myself to date myself after
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  Speaker 1: being a serial dater for from thirteen till thirty seven.
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  Speaker 2: You're master dating. What you're master dating, You're dating.
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  Speaker 1: Yourself, absolutely, But I owe that to myself. Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: enjoying this drama free zone in this home that I
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  Speaker 1: live in, and I have zero interests. But back to you, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what has like co parenting been like for you in
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  Speaker 1: your ex.
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  Speaker 2: It's been not co parenting, it's been parenting. And parenting
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  Speaker 2: is a term that people use when there's very little
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  Speaker 2: communication or teamwork with the other parents, and it's more
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  Speaker 2: like one party is parenting and the other party is
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  Speaker 2: parenting separately. And that's what I've been doing. And that
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  Speaker 2: is not ideal for the children at all, unfortunately, but
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  Speaker 2: sometimes that's you know, what the cards have been dealt,
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it's horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see that? How it affects? Because I come
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  Speaker 1: from a divorce family and my dad was just like
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  Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. I mean he was he left
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  Speaker 1: the country, so like there was really no co parenting
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  Speaker 1: right at all. So until my mom met my stepfather.
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  Speaker 2: Total single mom situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for a good solid I would say four
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  Speaker 1: or five years, like at the prime you know, of
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  Speaker 1: when I needed a father figure. Most likely have you
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  Speaker 1: seen it affect Are your kids in therapy or.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're in therapy? Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 1: It's good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cute, like they love it, and I think
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  Speaker 2: like a special gift I've given them because I started
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  Speaker 2: them in therapy before they understood that therapy was a trigger.
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  Speaker 1: That's so good for them.
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  Speaker 2: Therapy is just a word that we use, like go
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  Speaker 2: play outside. It's just natural to them, and they speak
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  Speaker 2: about it with their friends like it just rolls off
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  Speaker 2: their tongue. And I love that that they have that
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  Speaker 2: and they're like so good, which were of normalcy.
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  Speaker 1: I love that they're talking to their friends about it
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  Speaker 1: because there's there was back when I was that age,
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  Speaker 1: probably a lot of shame behind therapy, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you only go there.
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  Speaker 2: I knew what crazy. I don't know it was when
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  Speaker 2: I was their age.
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  Speaker 1: Totally, it's so good.
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  Speaker 2: Pside board.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my mom, I mean I went. I started at four,
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  Speaker 1: but like my mom, for her generation, there was no
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  Speaker 1: way in hell.
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  Speaker 2: Like, but where are you from.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from the Bay Area, so.
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  Speaker 2: You're from California, Like that's progressive. I'm from Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I went to therapy because I got chi I
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  Speaker 1: got molested when I was a little girl, so that.
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  Speaker 2: Was a ness different.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, yes, so my mom did what
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  Speaker 1: like you know, she was she was a nurse as well,
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  Speaker 1: so she knew exactly what to do. Now, if you're
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  Speaker 1: talking her generation coming from the Philippines, like that is
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  Speaker 1: a big no. No. You know therapy in general.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that there's a taboo associated with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you found a tribe of women to like
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  Speaker 1: support you during this time or are you more of
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  Speaker 1: a person who likes to be alone.
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  Speaker 2: No, I've found I've I have a tribe of people
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  Speaker 2: and combined men women. But for me, like I think
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  Speaker 2: like I found a ton of support in women and
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  Speaker 2: especially my best friend who's also a single mom, who's
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  Speaker 2: been through and going through a very similar situation to me.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just nice to be able to relate to
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  Speaker 2: somebody in the way that I can talk to her
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  Speaker 2: and say X y Z is happening, and basically what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying is armageddon is happening. And she doesn't react
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  Speaker 2: like with you know, her jaw to the floor. She
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  Speaker 2: reacts like, Okay, we can handle this because she understands
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  Speaker 2: that totally. There's something to be said for someone who
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  Speaker 2: understands or can can can like absorb and react to
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  Speaker 2: my trauma in a way that is normal instead of
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  Speaker 2: like thinking that the world is falling.
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  Speaker 1: Apart judging or people are like what, yeah, I hear No,
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  Speaker 1: I totally hear you. And there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people out there like that, you know, without first of all,
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  Speaker 1: we're all human. Judgment happens, but also like you just
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  Speaker 1: want to be able to speak about freely about whatever
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  Speaker 1: is going on without thinking twice about it, especially within
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  Speaker 1: your circle.
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  Speaker 2: And not only that, it takes a ton of energy
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  Speaker 2: to speak about what I'm going through and I don't
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  Speaker 2: love to relive that I don't really like to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: But do you feel like it heals a little part
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  Speaker 1: of you every time you do.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's a sort of release when it's
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  Speaker 2: the right audience. Otherwise I feel like it's.
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  Speaker 1: A job, I hear you, and do are you in therapy? No?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I have a weird take on therapy.
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  Speaker 2: Say more, therapy is very therapeutic, and it's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be as the word says.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on who you're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there has to be a relationship and all that,
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  Speaker 2: But I think therapy is meant to be there until
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  Speaker 2: you've learned your lesson. And I feel as if, like
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  Speaker 2: for the most part with my situation with my ex husband,
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  Speaker 2: I've learned my lessons and I know what they're the
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  Speaker 2: advice that would be given to me, and therefore, like
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  Speaker 2: I know how to apply it. It's whether or not I
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  Speaker 2: do it. Also, I don't know, Like I'm analytical and
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  Speaker 2: I'm emotionally aware. Sometimes I think that therapy is just
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  Speaker 2: a waste of time for me because I've already done
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  Speaker 2: it and got it. I either apply it or I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's different for everybody, right, like for real,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think that. I mean, there's no like check
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  Speaker 1: like I'll be in therapy for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 1: I just know that. But that's my situation, right, And
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like you're missing an unbiased opinion.
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  Speaker 2: No, because I get my therapy from other sources, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not like a therapist per se, which I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do see a therapist like intermittently. Yeah, it takes
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  Speaker 2: a long time, like it's a no.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's heavy. You have to explain everything again,
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  Speaker 1: like it's a whole thing, right, and it's expensive if
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  Speaker 1: you see, if you're not going.
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  Speaker 2: Through relationship right, like it has to be the right man.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's very important. I mean there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that say, you know, I just
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  Speaker 1: tried it and didn't work out for me, And I
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  Speaker 1: always say try again, you know, because like there's just
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  Speaker 1: I've been through ten and now I've been with my
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  Speaker 1: last therapyt or my current one for like almost twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like when you find the right one, you
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  Speaker 1: stick to it unless she retires or he retires.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a life coach I work with.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's similar to a therapist.
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  Speaker 1: They're not late, they're not certified, but yes, correct, so
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  Speaker 1: they're still unbiased. Right. Yeah, that's great, that's awesome. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's transition into dating here. Tell me about your dating life.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I've been in an on and off relationship
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  Speaker 2: for several years and that's safe and than like comfortable
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  Speaker 2: and then but like outside of that, I date casually
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  Speaker 2: and it's fun. I was actually just thinking about this
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  Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. I love falling in love.
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  Speaker 2: It's like addiction.
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  Speaker 1: It's it brings something up right.
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  Speaker 2: One million yeah, and I love it. It's the most
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  Speaker 2: fun thing ever to fall in love. But like that's
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  Speaker 2: not that's not sustainable, and that's not it's real in
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  Speaker 2: the moment, but it's not real in the long term. No,
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  Speaker 2: And so there's something really special about this relationship that
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  Speaker 2: I've had on and off for five years that I
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  Speaker 2: think that, Okay, I'm gonna get deep.
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  Speaker 1: Here and we love deep.
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  Speaker 2: When I was in my relationship with my ex, he
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  Speaker 2: has a lot like looking back, he has some traits
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  Speaker 2: of what some might think of narcissistic like me, And
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  Speaker 2: a typical trade of a narcissist is to like love
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  Speaker 2: bomb and like you fall in love quickly, and that's
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  Speaker 2: and I did that. That was amazing and then it
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  Speaker 2: ended poorly for me. But for me, as like a
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  Speaker 2: late twenty year old, that was how I thought love
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be, and so I think that's what
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  Speaker 2: I still seek in a lot of ways. And that's not,
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  Speaker 2: like we said, sustainable, and so I'm like trying to
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  Speaker 2: get out of that cycle. But to get out of
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  Speaker 2: that cycle means to like get out of that like
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  Speaker 2: huge release of serotonin and to like keep you know,
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  Speaker 2: consistent with like this a stable individual or a stable relationship.
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  Speaker 1: You have to retrain the brain and that is really
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  Speaker 1: difficult if like you have to do things that are
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  Speaker 1: not comfortable, right, that are that you have to be aware,
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  Speaker 1: which I think you are. Obviously you're saying that you're
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  Speaker 1: aware of what you were or still attracting, right as
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  Speaker 1: far as personality traits go, And I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: can relate because I'm just a bad picker because my
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  Speaker 1: sense of home was abuse, right, So my abuse is
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  Speaker 1: what I was attracting and people who were unavailable, men
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  Speaker 1: that were unavailable, And I still can gravitate towards that.
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  Speaker 1: My lazy brain, I like to say, like my subconscious
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  Speaker 1: is very used to that. That is my home. I
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  Speaker 1: was disgusted by nice people, right, So there was that
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  Speaker 1: because I never experienced that. So I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: with all of this. Obviously I didn't like myself, let
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  Speaker 1: alone love myself. And then I was like I was
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  Speaker 1: attracting that type of just people around me, both romantic
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  Speaker 1: and not romantic. Do you are you active in untraining
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  Speaker 1: the brain to then train it?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I completely relate to what you're talking, like
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  Speaker 2: speaking of with the the attraction quotient. I think that
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  Speaker 2: that's like a very reveeling part of who we are
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  Speaker 2: that sometimes we don't want to look at you know, like.
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  Speaker 1: You are, you are who you were raised by.
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  Speaker 2: In that too, And it's to break those generational cycles
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  Speaker 2: and to and to break even not generational like just
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  Speaker 2: to break like your own life cycles is really difficult
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  Speaker 2: to stop and it takes. It takes like a ton
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  Speaker 2: of inner work, and not only that, like a ton
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  Speaker 2: of being comfortable with myself. And that is the fucking
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  Speaker 2: hardest part. And I mean to love the body and
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  Speaker 2: from head to toe, and to love everything about me,
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  Speaker 2: including my anxiety, including the bad things that I've done,
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  Speaker 2: and not to love them and not to be proud
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  Speaker 2: of the bad things, but to say to those things,
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  Speaker 2: I see you, I understand when you do this, I
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  Speaker 2: understand how you feel. And this is Okay, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get through this and then to move on from there,
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  Speaker 2: because I think that once I recognize the feelings and
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  Speaker 2: the person that I am, that allows me to love
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  Speaker 2: myself more and then to be able to heal totally.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like you have to mother you're inner child,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because that's exactly what it is. And it's
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  Speaker 1: so amazing that you're very aware of this, and you
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  Speaker 1: should be proud of yourself, because I am. That's a
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  Speaker 1: lot to swallow.
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  Speaker 4: It is, Yes, thank you, I am.
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  Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you about this ring post
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  Speaker 1: on October sixth, to be exact or not? Okay, say more?
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  Speaker 1: What ring you there showed like an engagement? Was an
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  Speaker 1: engagement ring? Did that you post it on Instagram?
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  Speaker 2: Let me look it up?
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe it was an Instagram it was a different
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  Speaker 1: social platform, but I'm pretty sure it was in October.
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  Speaker 1: It was on Instagram and it was a ring. Yes, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: come on, you cannot forget about your policy of people
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  Speaker 1: posting for you.
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  Speaker 2: No, I post my own step.
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  Speaker 1: October sixth unless you erased it. I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: was October sixth. It was in October, Okay, come on?
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  Speaker 1: It was a string it was in a string. It
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  Speaker 1: was like in a carousel.
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  Speaker 2: Was a big ring?
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  Speaker 1: Was it a carousel of pictures?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it had to be my big ring.
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  Speaker 1: October twentieth, per my producer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, October first, October twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 1: It was in a carousel, I believe. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: could have just been a ring.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, I'm looking oh that one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that one?
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  Speaker 2: Oh pretty?
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  Speaker 1: It is pretty. That's why we were talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: Say more, I.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Wish that was mine.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: What I forgot about it? Were you ring shopping? What
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: was what was all of that about?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm always ring shopping.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: For an engagement ring. Come on, who's is that?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I wonder who's that that is?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Is that your hand?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: My friends have really beautiful, big ass rings, and I
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: just thought I was gorgeous. And by the way, I think.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You're you know what, I have a really good lie detector.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I think you're lying. But that's okay, you do. Yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like almost psychic. I swear to god. My grandma
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: was it's this whole thing. It's like, I am, I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: can smell you from a mile away.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Somebody. Do you think somebody's gonna buy that for me?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah. I mean, I have a poshmark account.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I can just sell it for you if you want.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: It's not mine, I would know. I wish it was mine.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: It's okay, so you're playing KOI obviously you don't want
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to say more than that, right, I'm not. I'm not
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: like that was just a random picture.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: No, I think it was my friend's. Like my friends
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: have like really big diamonds and I love to try
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: them on. And I think I will.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Be here that you're engaged in one week from today.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna murder you.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Who's who's gonna be Who's gonna be the husband? Cheryl?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, who knows how? So how
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: many people are you dating at the same time right now?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to give me some tips here.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So in my head, I love to date multiples of the.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Same really, I don't know how you do that in
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: my head? I said, oh, that's fine, and you still
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: don't do that in my head? How do you do that?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm like, oh, I'm a modern woman.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna date like, oh guys, and like you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna like just be free.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I cannot I wish I could. I get I am
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: so not like that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I'm monogamous big time.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Like when I have sex with you, you're screwed. You
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: might as well marry me.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to be said for that and say
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and like I try not to be that way, but
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: like that's how my brain works, that's how my body works,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and I can't help it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: So, okay, how are you on a dating app?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: How do I do this? If you were me, if
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: we were besties and you were here with me, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I was just like it was this friday, it was
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a weekend. See, I'm a hermit. I'm like, I am
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: so too comfortable alone with my frenchiet and it's just
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the two of us bitches and we're hanging out, you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So like what would you say? What are the first
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: steps when I'm interested in dating? Because I'm just not
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: But anyway now, I'm like, you're not interested, Like.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: There's at all for you?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool, there's nothing you do. You stay in with
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: your French gye and you watch Love Is Blind.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm halfway through season eight, Like I get it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I get it, thoughts, but.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I know, no, it's not for you, Cheryl, It's not
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: You are our audience. So our listeners are very interested
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in this, So say more.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: What the what the audience? What the listeners is? They
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: they go, they go on a nap if they want, okay,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: which I think they should, because it's like good to
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: look at okay on Hinge and Rayah and they both
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: are horrible.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Are there? Okay? Well why would you say then do
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it when it's horrible.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Because it's good to know what the what? Like the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: pickens are Okay, got it?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: So you're just judging a book by its cover as
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you're swiping through. Okay, got it?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Books by its cover.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: That's what we do to gain some confidence, like go
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: and then go out to in like irl and uh
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: huh beeps and.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Put yourself out there and say like, hey, I noticed
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you're not wearing a ring on your finger. That's bold.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: That's a bold statement, but it's true. Like that starts
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: a convo.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And then they're never like thanks for pointing out the obvious,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Like okay, is that how we're starting this conversation?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: No, they usually try to like play it cool, but
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: you're right. I would totally say that if I was
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a guy yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I mean if they say it to you, you can
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: totally steal it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: They must, you know what, that is a terrible pickup line.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I've never gotten that response. They must just never get
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: pickup lines.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, they just must like you. There's no pickup
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: line needed.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Oh maybe maybe they.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like a high, short and sweet. Has
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: dating with kids been tricky for you?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the dating part no, but the relationship part. Yes.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Have they met anybody other I that you've dated before
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: or yeah?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: So I've been single since my kids have been one
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and three one and three, And initially I was like, oh,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I'll just like introduce something to everybo and I did,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: like anybody who came to the house to like pick
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: me up. Oh Hi, this is my friend Bob or Joe,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Bill or whatever.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: But then once they started having a memory, I'm like
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I stopped.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And so, kay, what do you mean once they started
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: having a memory, they're gonna what do you mean?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Well, they were three and one and one.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: They didn't, like, you know what, my first memory I
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: was two, my very first memory.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not saying that like certain things haven't stuck
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: with them, but I don't think like Bill and Bob
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and Joe got necessarily going to like lay like deep
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: seated memories in there.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: They're in therapy. We're good. We're good.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: They're in therapy. But like so, like after a couple
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: of years, I'm like, Okay, this is done. I thought
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I would be married at that point. I thought it'd
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, done, Like they would never have a
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: memory without me being and so it was like a
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: new thing for me to have to to take that,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: like to make my dating life separate from and which
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I did. And my kids don't have any conscious memory
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: of me having a boyfriend.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just messing with you.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: It's well, I don't care. You can't come at me
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: like it's true.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm never coming at you. I'm just messing around.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I don't have kids, so I have no idea what
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: My first memory was when I was three, I was
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: like going down on my bicycle but donnah hill and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I was scared. I remember that when I was three
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: years old. But like I don't remember my mom's friend
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: from college.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. My My first memory was
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: with my real father naked having sex with another woman
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: in his apartment. Yeah. That sounds like traumatic. That would
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: make it was another Filipino woman. Clearly he had a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: type rest and peace dad. Yeah, so that I'll never forget.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: That was interesting. Okay, so when do you wait? So
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you have three kids, right, yeah, your daughter is the oldest, Yes.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: She's eight.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: So are you going to ever talk to them about
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: your dating life?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yes? And I do, okay, like very fluid with them. Yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: in the sense where like they'll but it's different like
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: my kids, it's not like they ask about dating. It's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: like in their minds there's friends and there's husbands. There's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: not between And so I'm like, okay, I'm They'll be like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: we're mommy, will you look for a daddy? Will you
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: get it down house? And I'm like no, we're good
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: without a daddy. And then we get a mommy.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Then that's funny.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Honestly that would be better.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So do you guys split custody? Like? How does is?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Do they see their father?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: They? Yes, they see got it?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I have this debate going on in my head.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But also in one of the episodes I did here
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: with Heather, our producer, and I said that, you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: coming from a divorce family, like I was basically just
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: raised by my mom and a couple of nannies, right,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But I believe because I'm thinking, like, for me, obviously,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to ever have a kid that I'm
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: forty and almost forty one, and I'm I don't want
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to have a kid, like, well, that's obvious naturally, right
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: like that, but like I wouldn't mind possibly maybe having
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: one down the road, right like, and I'm not ready
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: right now whatever. Anyways, the point is that I'm not
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: opposed to raising a kid as a single parent. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: think it's almost healthier than doing so with a partner.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I could see that. I think that if I was
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: entering into a relationship where I was starting to have children,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't look at the person as a romantic partner.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I would look at them as a life partner and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: a business partner more or less. And I raise this child.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Do our values aligned and you know the ways to
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: raise a child? Because yes, like maybe our values aligned
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: in the ways of having sex, but you know, or
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: financially or whatever, but children, that's a whole different ballgame.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And there's so many, as we both know, factors that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: go into a relationship. But when it comes to the children.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: That is the one thing that like, if it's not
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: perfectly aligned and you got and we and you and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: the other person are you know, the proverbial you and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the other person split up and the children part isn't aligned,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: that's going to cause tension for the rest of those
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: children's lives, which I'm through. And I did that to
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: my children because I was so focused on loving my
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: partner for me and having children for me. I didn't
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: think about the long term repercussions of if we split,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: because in my head, we just stay together. That's not
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: how life works necessarily.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? I think about this too often. If
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: my parents stayed together, I would have been way messed up,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: more than I am today, of course, of.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Course, And like there's so much to be said for that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I think, like you have your ideal situation, you know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: in every you know, potential situation like ooh, a nuclear
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: family with a mom and a dad who love each
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: other for one hundred and million years and blah blah
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: blah blah. But like we can only do the best
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: with what we are given, and if that's not aligned,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: then that shouldn't that then like we should go elsewhere?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: To like give ourselves, first of all, the best that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: we can give ourselves, because that's the only way we
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: can give the best to our children.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: When you say that you want to find somebody like
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a life partner, have you has there any has there
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: been anybody that's even like come close to that checklist
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of whatever it is.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: That's a good question, Cheryl. I. I love to romanticize,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: so I would love to say absolutely, but like I don't. Honestly,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I don't at this point, I don't know if that really.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Exists, because perfect doesn't.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: No, And people are people, like are they gonna? Are
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: they gonna be good people and consistent and stable and
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: solid and there? And that's scary.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's scary to expect that because you're bound to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: then break it, right, Like, the expectations of somebody is
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: not is something that you're That's the thing. It's like
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we're not Yogi's either. We can't just go into relationships
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: not having expectations, because especially when you're dealing with other humans, right, Like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. So do you feel like in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: a way you're gonna wait till your kids are adults
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: until you settle No?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I like I wanted to be with someone well before
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: now and I'm not. But that's okay, it's okay, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I'm happy.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Is it okay?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's okay, okay, good? Absolutely, are you creating? I
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: have this beautiful home. I've decorated it for myself. It's
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: like it's score.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I thought you were in a museum.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so happy, like in the space that
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I've created for myself and my children.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Good for you.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I just didn't imagine it being this way. Like there's
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a big difference in like being happy and then having expectations,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: like they don't necessarily have to.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Align, no, and it doesn't have to be black and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: white like that either. Are you content beyond beyond? That's amazing?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: But I still have goals.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Being content doesn't mean that you're not. That doesn't really,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I mean you can still have goals, it's just not
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and live a drama free, freaking life. And that's what.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy and I'm not like, okay, so happy
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: is not sustainable, but contentment is. And this is the thing.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: It's like, I've I'm not fighting with anybody, I'm not
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: freaking out about something, I'm not being jealous, I'm not worrying.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not this. It's like the list goes on and
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I think that my nervous system has finally regulated to
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that point where there's fear. I mean, I'm not going
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to say that I'm not scared, but of course it's
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: all fear related as to why I'm not dating, not all,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: but a little bit of it. But it's okay. And
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: by the way, it's okay, like give yourself grace. You know.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Every day I pull a card, and I pull it usually.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: In actually, yes, it's amazing physically. What type of cards?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: So I use a deck of cards from Gabrielle Bernstein. Yes,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: uh huh, she's a this awesome spiritual Yeah yeah, spiritual
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: like manifesting death of kind of like taro wish cards.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: But they're not. And so every day I.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Shoo affirmations right, correct.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: They're affirmations, that's exactly what we're there. And every day
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I shuffle them and I pull one, and sometimes my
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: kids want to pull one. I let each with them
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: pull one, and I leave them out in the kitchen
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: for the whole day, and I talk to my kids
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: about what it means, and I really try to live it,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and I start the morning, out with it with my
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: coffee every morning, and it's just like a good reminder
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: that we're okay in the space that we're in.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Do you meditate?
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not very good at it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? You're not good at it? Though?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to center my brain, So I
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: do it more through breath work.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. Yeah, I feel the same,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: do you. I mean I studied transcendental meditation. I mean
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I went full on the for that that period as
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: soon as I got separated. But it's hard because I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: am a competitor obviously, you know, my whole life, I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: compete with myself, and it's like hard to not shame
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: myself when I don't do it twice a day every
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: day for you know, god knows how long, right, yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes twice a day. It's like then there's like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: uh oh, then the shame and like I'm like okay.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So we're working on that though. I mean, it's better
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: doing it once a week than nothing at all, right,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: So we're just taking it one day at a time,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like my addiction. So I want to pick your brain
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit before I let you go. Do you
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: watch reality TV or is that just not of interest?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: You watch Love is Blind?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I love the trashiest ones only which ones? So like
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the trashier the better, Like ninety Day Fiance.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't seen that yet. I don't think I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: like trashy though. See I can't even watch the really
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: long seasoned one. What's that one called?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, you just pop in, I GISs.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: A lot of my dog gets anxiety when they hear
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: she he hears people like yelling?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh worth it? So ninety Day Fiance is amazing.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Love is Blind? I love Traders. Yeah, that's all I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: can think of right now.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Do you watch Housewives?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: No?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: That's okay, Mad saying that I feel bad why I.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Don't know, you know, I like, I'm a part of
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: this fraternity of sisterhood, and I feel like I'm not
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: being supportive.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean, look, if it wasn't my
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: job to watch Dancing with the Stars, I don't think
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I would either. So really it's a little bit like
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and that's okay because I think when you know the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: ins and outs of something, it just doesn't hit the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: same as if, like if I were on Love is blind.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't watch it either, because it's kind of like, great,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: they barely use anything that we talked about, you know.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I could see that also, like in a weird human way,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm I'm like the one who's who
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: can't sit at the table. I'm the one who's left
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: out and wasn't invited to the party.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Oh do you Is that true?
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not on the show, but yeah,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: it's I mean I've been off for gosh, almost a decade.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Now would you go back?
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe yeah. I think like life's really different,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: so it's it's hard to say. You like, I would
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: want to be more private with my children now that
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: they're older and they like they're individual. Before they were
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: just like extensions of me and babies and like just
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: goga googa, And now they they're real people with their
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: own lives and.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Problems, personalities and opinions. What do you think of Gretchen
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: coming back?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I'm excited. I think it's great.
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  Speaker 6: I like, I like them bringing back people, and I think, like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know about other franchises, but oh C has
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: a really good camaraderie of peace, like I still talk
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: to a lot of people, most of them I was
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: on the show with and.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: That's good, feels good. Yeah, I think you would be perfect.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: They should definitely bring you back. I the last time
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I watched Housewives, was you on it? I think, Oh,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I barely watch television, and if
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I do, it's like in the background, just background noise.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: It as much as blind. Yeah, I've always I pitched
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the president of Netflix recently, I'm like, they should do
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a celebrity version and he's like, well, that just won't work,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, but we can. We can make it
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: work if we change our voices. Yes, we can. We
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: can make it work.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Change our voices.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so that the voice wouldn't necessarily like when
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you're talking to them with.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: The wall robot voice.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't have to. I mean, listen, there's AI nowadays.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: It could be a porn porno voice, like I have
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: porn star voice. I don't know. Whatever you want, you
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: get to choose.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: You just change your name, change your name, or just.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Don't talk about your career. There's like certain rules.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, that would be so good, Cheryl.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I know, thank you?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Would you go on it?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's why I pitched it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: But you don't even want to date.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Well, it's different when you're dating a wall. I love
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: dating walls. I've been dating four walls here in this home.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Huh until you marry them on love is line?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's all temporary, isn't it? Just like
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: our lives? Okay? Would you go on Traders one million?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: You would be great?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Which one on which you do it together? Trades or faithful? No?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can be a trader. I know
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you would be someone that someone would say you're a trader,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like you know what I mean?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I think I would really be good at it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: You would be good? Yeah, thank you would be. They're
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: going to have like ten thousand seasons, so don't worry
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: exactly we'll be on the ten thousandth one.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Well hopefully not that far.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: But thank you so much. Thanks for having me, thanks
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: for being vulnerable, and for everything that you just speak
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: speak of. It's not easy.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I loved that conversation with Megan, and I just love
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: how real she is and you know, she's just honestly
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: living day by day. Are you guys navigating what your
• 40:12
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