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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: presented by Jet Home Loans. Jaguars Happy Hour on a
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  Speaker 1: Monday is brought to you emparted by Ticket Exchange, Geico
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  Speaker 1: and t I A A Bank. And now the man
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  Speaker 1: who will always be bringing you Happy Hour for now,
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shad Rick. Welcome in. Yes, Jaguars Happy Our
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  Speaker 1: presented by Jet Home Loans, the first ever Jaguars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. That's Tony Boselli Crisco coming up shortly.
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  Speaker 1: What do you have just said? That was the worst
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  Speaker 1: open ever joke? Last year we had this great open
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  Speaker 1: with all these little quib Yeah, you you guys arguing
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  Speaker 1: against what happened? Where what we've fallen? So far? You
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  Speaker 1: reading the opening? Can we not? It's some better produced
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  Speaker 1: like some back and forth sounds and little shots at
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  Speaker 1: Pete or Betters what happened? I like the old ones
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  Speaker 1: to creative to show. So, so Joe's gonna be reading
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  Speaker 1: every time? Yes, allegedly, So I'd like to read the
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  Speaker 1: open next week. We can work on it if you
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  Speaker 1: get here earlier than three minutes before the show, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll we'll work on that next time. I'm just glad
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  Speaker 1: you're here, Tony. It's great. We'll be here. I'm here
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  Speaker 1: this week, I'm here next week, and then, uh, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be here every week. It's Monday. We'll be here
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  Speaker 1: every week. But then I'll be doing it remote with
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  Speaker 1: Pete on the next two Uh Mondays, remote with Pete?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean? Well, when I think i'll be
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  Speaker 1: the last weekend, I'm going up to this rules deal
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  Speaker 1: with the NFL in New York, I think Pete's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be there, maybe it won't be, and uh so I'll
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  Speaker 1: be doing it from there. We'll be we'll be on
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  Speaker 1: every time. Good to know that we'll be live. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be streaming video and my lovely uh voice as well. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: indeed we've got plenty to get to tonight. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: most Mondays, I'll be sitting right next to you. Thank goodness.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do on Monday's without
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  Speaker 1: I like this new time, so I like this afternoon
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  Speaker 1: well four to six option. It also replays on the
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  Speaker 1: tinton A M signal from six to eight, so you'll
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  Speaker 1: hear it twice in a row. It's great. Uh, Pete
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  Speaker 1: is scared that's why he's a little late joining us today.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's afraid of the confrontation. He got beat down
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  Speaker 1: last year on a weekly basis, and so I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure he's prepared to uh start this Monday outing that
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  Speaker 1: we have Prisco and selling or Bell and Prisco. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: do you want in plenty to get too though. We're
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  Speaker 1: also on the Jags app, Jaguars dot com, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Facebook page as well, and we're here each and every money.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, Jaguars Happy Our runs Monday through Thursday, four
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  Speaker 1: to five pm Tuesday and Wednesday and then four to
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  Speaker 1: six the first hours is is Jaguars Happy Hour than
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  Speaker 1: the Doug Moron Show from a five to six on Thursday?
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  Speaker 1: What are we serving for happy Hours? There's like a
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  Speaker 1: drink special, app special or anything like that. We have
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  Speaker 1: to work on that. We'll get to work on that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe our our near our announcer over there will Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to bring some food in maybe for Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: We're open to that. Yeah, anyone who wants to drop
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  Speaker 1: food by the studio. Drink specials non alcoholic, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: not a lot. I mean we are on the radio
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  Speaker 1: non alcohol Uh, drink specials was a working progress. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing good. I like it. This is good. It's
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  Speaker 1: so excited. I'm excited. You know. The we do the
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  Speaker 1: Thursday show year round obviously, and we changed, as you
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  Speaker 1: said last week, we're no longer Jaguars Thursday, but happy
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  Speaker 1: our Thursday. Um. But this is I always liked the
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  Speaker 1: kick off of this show because it says that we
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  Speaker 1: are right on the cusp of NFL games for the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: and we start this week Thursday night with the Saints
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  Speaker 1: coming to town. But this is a this is a
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  Speaker 1: show I look forward to all year long and uh
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  Speaker 1: excited to kick it off. The response on social media
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  Speaker 1: today when we did a tweet about it earlier today, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: the show is coming up tonight. People are fired up.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show. This is the one of the
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  Speaker 1: shows people are really excited for and that they when
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  Speaker 1: that goes away after the season, they're wondering where the
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  Speaker 1: heck this thing goes because they love you and Pete
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  Speaker 1: going back and forth at each other. Well, if people
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  Speaker 1: just get on the phone, we'll get to we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to him. I don't know, you know, he's moved to
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  Speaker 1: South Florida. I know, it's disappointing he's no longer a
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  Speaker 1: Douvall native, but I still loves uh loves this part
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  Speaker 1: of the Florida and Uh. Pete's doing great things now
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  Speaker 1: with CBS. Obviously he's been doing it for a number
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  Speaker 1: of years. One of their senior writers. UM, keyword and age. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're a senior reporter here for the Jaguars. Not the
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  Speaker 1: oldest senior, though. You gotta be careful to making shots
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  Speaker 1: at Pete for his age. Um. But yeah, I'll be great,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for everyone listening, and if you've listen in
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  Speaker 1: the years past, you know, Pete Prisco is one of
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  Speaker 1: the leading of voices on the national scene around the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: He's why they respected. UH does a great job. He's
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  Speaker 1: mostly wrong on this show when we talk, I'm mostly right,
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  Speaker 1: but we have a good time of bantering back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you're taking advantage of the situation right now.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead a little and maybe he'll have a feeling
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna come back at some point. We're getting some
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  Speaker 1: big things early in the show tonight, though. Pete Prisco
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  Speaker 1: has the Jaguars going to the Super Bowl this year.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of that prediction. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we got music all of a sudden this show.
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  Speaker 1: I don't worry about every new little nuance. I'm not supposed.
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  Speaker 1: Am I supposed to start dancing or something that happened?
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  Speaker 1: Do not start dancing? Super Bowl Bounce, says Pete Prisco.
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  Speaker 1: That is it's not quite a bold prediction, right there
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  Speaker 1: are five minutes away. Last year, Well, it's a bold
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  Speaker 1: addiction just because of where the franchise has been previous
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  Speaker 1: the last year, over the last decade before that, and
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  Speaker 1: so what is fun though, it's not just There's been
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  Speaker 1: other people who have said that this is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of the favorites, if not the favorite, in the
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  Speaker 1: a f C to represent the conference in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And that's nice. It's fun to talk about. It's fun
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  Speaker 1: to have great music when we start talking about that
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  Speaker 1: and and all the different things that go around it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's all just noise. It's noise in in the
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  Speaker 1: atmosphere right now, and it's noise that could be dangerous
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  Speaker 1: for a football team if you listen to it too much.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's noise that coaches hate because coaches are
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  Speaker 1: paranoid for the most part of of their team believing. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: What has said that they Doug Barron has come out
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  Speaker 1: and said it's been played uh on our website and
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  Speaker 1: other places, that he thinks his team plays better with
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  Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulders. They had a chip on
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  Speaker 1: the shoulders last year. He wants to keep that chip
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  Speaker 1: on their shoulders because they come UH. Last year, they
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  Speaker 1: played with an attitude us against the world. No one
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  Speaker 1: believes in us except for the guys in this locker room. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: There is a power to that. There's a continuity that
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  Speaker 1: comes from that. And so coaches panic when they hear
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  Speaker 1: everyone's saying how great they're gonna be and you don't.
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  Speaker 1: And as a player, you gotta be careful. You can't
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  Speaker 1: start believing what other people say about you, good or bad,
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  Speaker 1: because just like you didn't listen last year when the
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  Speaker 1: everyone said you were no good and that you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be last in the n f C South or at
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of the a f C in general, and
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  Speaker 1: that you had no real chance to do anything, and
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  Speaker 1: that your quarterback stunk and the offensively you're a disaster
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  Speaker 1: and everything that went along with that, and you didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to listen to it. Then you use that as
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  Speaker 1: energy to fuel you. If anything, you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: start listening too much to the Pete Presco's of the
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  Speaker 1: world and the Tony Romos who picked the UH Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: to face the Packers in the Super Bowl and all
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  Speaker 1: the other pundits that are saying this is the team
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  Speaker 1: to beat in the n f C. This is you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's the mighty Jacksonville Jaguars. The great defense that they
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  Speaker 1: have in the running game Saxonville, and Blake's playing better
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  Speaker 1: and all these great things which I like to believe
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  Speaker 1: and I hope they're true, and I look forward to
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  Speaker 1: seeing this team on the field, But you can't believe
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  Speaker 1: it as a player. You can. You have to go
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  Speaker 1: about your business and you have to have the same
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  Speaker 1: attitude as like, we have something to prove. And if
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  Speaker 1: as soon as you think you've arrived and you have
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  Speaker 1: nothing to prove, or you don't have uh, that proverbial
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  Speaker 1: chip on your shoulder that Doug Moron has talked about,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's when you get in trouble. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's a dangerous position to be. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think this team is doing and I think if you
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  Speaker 1: look at they practice They've had extremely tough practices, physical
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  Speaker 1: practices the last two days. I mean Sunday yesterday, I
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  Speaker 1: think that a hundred plays. It was hot, repeating plays, uh,
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  Speaker 1: demanding perfection. The competitive nature of today on the field. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: that happened another very crisp practice. I mean, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you need and that's what you need to be working towards.
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  Speaker 1: Were so early we having had a preseason game yet
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  Speaker 1: this first one Thursday night, it's gonna be limited action.
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  Speaker 1: I said it earlier on Dan and Jeff show this
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  Speaker 1: morning ONT five, you know ten ten, Uh, their show.
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  Speaker 1: That next week is I think is a critical week
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  Speaker 1: for this franchise, this team in the development. Going up
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  Speaker 1: to Minnesota. Uh, Minnesota is one of the better teams
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  Speaker 1: in the NFC, great defense, physical, tough, UM to see
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  Speaker 1: kind of how you measure up and going into that
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  Speaker 1: second preseason game. So it's very early to that point though.
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  Speaker 1: The going up next week to Minnesota. That was kind
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  Speaker 1: of when the eyes opened last year too. When you
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  Speaker 1: go up to New England finally and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, here, here here's the here's Tom Brady,
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  Speaker 1: and here comes the Patriots on the field, you have
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  Speaker 1: a really good, almost a measuring stick of where you
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  Speaker 1: want to be and where you are as an organization.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was a big turning point in camp
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  Speaker 1: early last preseason. How do you think with the turning point,
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious because I actually left there going well, remember
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  Speaker 1: it was the first year for for Doug Moron running
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  Speaker 1: the camp and all that, and you get a chance
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  Speaker 1: to to see how a great organization and franchise runs
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  Speaker 1: their business. It was a younger football team, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys who hadn't been around here before. They're trying
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  Speaker 1: to find an identity. That's not a bad identity to
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  Speaker 1: try to go find, you know, something like New England
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  Speaker 1: has done so for for that to come together, I
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  Speaker 1: think early yeah, they had a long way to go
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  Speaker 1: at that point. I mean that's why I think we left,
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  Speaker 1: But I think that was I think that was part
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  Speaker 1: of the idea to realize that you're a long way
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  Speaker 1: away from where you need to be. Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think any of us left there outside of the team.
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  Speaker 1: I mean all of us that are part of the
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  Speaker 1: franchise that aren't playing or coaching. I think we all
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  Speaker 1: looked at each other's like, uh, well, Tom carved him up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't ways that that's what happened. We haven't ways
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  Speaker 1: to go. Remember, the secondary wasn't on the field a
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  Speaker 1: lot those guys were hurt or gone or whatever was going.
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  Speaker 1: Then we dominated in the in the game week one preseason,
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  Speaker 1: although no one really played in that game that played
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  Speaker 1: in the game. To your point, I mean that somebody
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  Speaker 1: different on the other side for a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: of practice. I think this is gonna be different though,
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  Speaker 1: because last year we went up to New England as
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  Speaker 1: the lowly Jaguars as the team nobody was thinking about
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  Speaker 1: up against the mighty Patriots and Tom Brady and I
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  Speaker 1: think that clouds everyone and it did back then. Of
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  Speaker 1: like you looked at the Patriots different than you looked
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  Speaker 1: at the Jaguars. It's different going up to Minnesota. This
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  Speaker 1: is the a team that's just missed going to the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, and the Jaguars this is a
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  Speaker 1: team that's one of the favorites now. This is the
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  Speaker 1: team that had a top five defense and for three
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  Speaker 1: quarters this season the best defense in the NFL. Um
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  Speaker 1: and it's a team that added in the off season
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  Speaker 1: is better. So you're kind of going up there saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, we're the measuring stick. And and I
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  Speaker 1: think as a player, you should go up there saying
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  Speaker 1: and this is part of you know you can. It's
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  Speaker 1: a different chip on your shoulder, but you go up
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  Speaker 1: and say, listen, we are the king. Where are the
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  Speaker 1: big boys, And we're gonna show and enforce our will
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  Speaker 1: on you now and start making a statement right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm mean, that's the type of attitude you have to have.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that you arrived that you are king, but
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  Speaker 1: you you want to have that confidence in that attitude
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  Speaker 1: saying listen, we're good, and we're not just gonna tell
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  Speaker 1: you we're good. We're gonna go show you and physically
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  Speaker 1: dominate you. Because that's what this team is all about.
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  Speaker 1: If this is a physical football team. And what I
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  Speaker 1: love about the practice with the Minnesota Vikings, they're going
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  Speaker 1: up to another physical team coached by a very physical
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  Speaker 1: style coach in Mike Zimmer and the ability to go
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  Speaker 1: up there and kind of enforce your will against another
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  Speaker 1: good football team. It's a great This will be a
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  Speaker 1: great measuring stick as far as where you are as
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  Speaker 1: a as a team. Early in the two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: eighteen campaign, speaking of enforcing your will, that's what Pete
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  Speaker 1: Prisco does quite a bit. He joins us now over
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  Speaker 1: the phone for Jaguars Happy Hour. Pete, good afternoon. What. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just glad you could join us. Hey, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Fellas, I would just up as the
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  Speaker 1: VIC last week. Way do you see that practice facility?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys are gonna go nuts when
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  Speaker 1: you see that thing. It's fantastic. They have a little
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  Speaker 1: stadium right there in the facility and they got, um,
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  Speaker 1: it's what do you see it? Yeah? I was. I
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  Speaker 1: have some friends up in Minnesota, in the Minneapolis area
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  Speaker 1: and they've driven by it and they said, it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's fabulous, Pete. That it's state of the art. It's
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  Speaker 1: just beautiful. And I'm looking forward to getting up there
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  Speaker 1: and seeing it. And Uh, by the way, Tony, I
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  Speaker 1: think we'll be stayed in a in a better hotel
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  Speaker 1: than for memory wise, that you stayed in last time
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  Speaker 1: you were in, Oh, for the uh you're talking for
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year where I stayed that then
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  Speaker 1: by the America Yeah, hey, uh, and then the one
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  Speaker 1: downtown when you got the grim news. Remember, yeah, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: I remember you don't have to bring that. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to with you, you know what, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I can't get it. I can't even get a sniff
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  Speaker 1: to get in. It's thirty years cover this league. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even get nominated. So at least you get get
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  Speaker 1: to the finals. Pete, how you do it? Man? It's
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  Speaker 1: been a long time. How South Florida? You're living in Lauderdale?
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  Speaker 1: All right, it is. I'm living in but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: come back from ten days on the road, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of yeah, and I'm going back out. I will
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  Speaker 1: do the show live in studio with you guys on
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  Speaker 1: this point, because that's why can't day Jacksonville probably in
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  Speaker 1: New York. So you'll be you two and I'll be
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  Speaker 1: calling in New York a lot these days. Go on. Well,
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  Speaker 1: i'll tell you another day. Hey, are you tell us?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Gus Bradley said to say that you've
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  Speaker 1: been way too much for pleasure, that's not everywhere. That's
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  Speaker 1: a good point. That's a good point. The guy missed
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  Speaker 1: like two months of the Thursday show. That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: I called in every Thursday, Peter, are you going up
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  Speaker 1: to New York? The following week for the rules uh
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  Speaker 1: CBS rules deal. No, I'm not. No, I'll be up
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  Speaker 1: there for that as well. I'm going to New York
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  Speaker 1: next week to do two games because Mayfield and Donald
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  Speaker 1: and playing and they want me to go see him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing that and I come back. I'm actually in
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  Speaker 1: the studio next week, and then I go back out again,
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  Speaker 1: starting with Jacksonville on the twentieth. So, um, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was it was good. I got good. I looked at Atlanta, Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay, the two l a ke So it was
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  Speaker 1: a good It was a good trip. So you've been
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  Speaker 1: around seeing some of the better teams in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: You'll you've been in the Minnesota where we're going next week,
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  Speaker 1: and then the following week you'll be here. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about it at the top of the show before you
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  Speaker 1: joined us. Is is the fact that you picked the
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars to go thirteen and three and represent the
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  Speaker 1: a f C in the Super Bowl. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is a really good football team. I mean, and not
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  Speaker 1: yet based on what they did last year. I think
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  Speaker 1: this team is better than last year's team in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of spots. I mean, and it starts would okay,
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  Speaker 1: at this point out the starting the growth of guy
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  Speaker 1: young guys right like Miles jack I mean the Miles
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  Speaker 1: Jackie's on the playoffs, and I think the Miles jack
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  Speaker 1: unste carry over into this team, and that wasn't there
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  Speaker 1: for most of the last year. I think in god
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  Speaker 1: Way might end up being the leading sacker in the
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  Speaker 1: league this year. I think there's a real possibility of that,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know, when you look around the league
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  Speaker 1: at all the stackers, the great sack guys out there,
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  Speaker 1: that's impressive to say. And then you go to the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the ball, nor well, bring the president,
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• 16:28
  Speaker 1: be that much better. And then you know Finett's treating
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  Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, the receivers down know where
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  Speaker 1: they're going. I mean, you had all that up. It's
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: a better football team. So I I did. I played
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it out and they went thirteen and three, and I
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: think they're legitimate Super Bowl champions possible. That's that's how
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: good I think that. I think they can win it all.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing that you left out your analysts analysis there,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: and I want to I'll change not challenge to play
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: devil's advocate on a couple of things in the second
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: that you said, But you didn't even mention Blake Bortles
• 17:03
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• 17:08
  Speaker 1: if he continues the improvement we saw throughout the season
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: last year. By the way, to tell you, I was
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: their May Mini camp, but I don't think you were.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I was shocking. I know I was shocking. He was
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: not around. I was too there. I missed one day.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't see you. I was there for two days.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't He's sorry to miss Pete. No, I know
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't seen that. Although he's still on dr D. No,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not. You'd be proud of me. I've gone the
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: other way, George Summer. Then I look more like you now.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: El Gordo showed up well, be a little round man
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: in the big round, and then Jo felt Man either
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: pictions from the road. I'm in pretty good shape, Pete.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Come on, I don't let him fool you. Pete. He's
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: still bald and he's fatter than ever. But but you
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: know what, when when I was up there, I was
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you know is much more confidence in himself, and that
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: shows the way he plays, the way he throws the ball.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: The wobblers, you know, there's still a few, and they
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: have they're they're not as as as plentiful as they've been.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: You can tell he's worked on the mechanics. Arm is better,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and he's more comfortable. He just looks like he gets
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: gets it more, you know. And I think that's that's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: gonna show up. And I got everywhere I go, everywhere
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I go, everybody goes players, coaches, Yeah, what about Bartle
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, last year he didn't
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: had receivers, didn't know where they were going, He had
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: no idea, and and quite frankly, the running game wasn't
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: as good as they thought. And then that the numbers
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: would tell you because that is runs, they have the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: fake punts, and then they had the nine yard run
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. So I think when you add it all up,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's could be a much further quarterback. So Pete,
• 18:44
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• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about a couple of things that
• 18:47
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• 18:51
  Speaker 1: At thirteen and three, and then also we can go
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to the offensive side because I got a couple of
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: thoughts and questions. Wow, I think they're I think they're
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a really good football team too, But I think it's
• 19:01
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• 19:03
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  Speaker 1: She is actually it's uh, you know, she this is
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• 23:39
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  Speaker 1: mile from the beach. I ride my bike over the bridge,
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  Speaker 1: but probably one day over too, by the way, that's
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  Speaker 1: a whole another story. And uh, it's great, Tony, it
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: really is. I mean, look, I had thirty years in Jacksonville.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I love Jacksonville. I love coming back. I'll be back
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: in a week, and um, you know, I'm always gonna
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: make that's the longest I've lived anywhere in my entire life.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: That's been jackson will always be a part of me.
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  Speaker 1: But I really do like living down here though. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: just thought she might be disappointed now that she has
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to see you every day. I know she liked when
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you used to leave for a couple of days a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: week down to South Florida, So you know, there is
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a little of that. Although when I'm you know, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: having a bitty I mean, I'm yeah, I've been traveling
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a lot, believe or not since we've got down here,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: so it's it's been hectic, and uh again it's it's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I missed Jacksonville. I I still had a lot of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: meant a lot of great people down there, and and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and and have a lot of good memories. But it's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: it's different. I gotta come into the office and do
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: studio working stuff, which I liked. And I'm actually I've
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: morphed into a TV personality, Tony, if you can believe that,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that's that's shocking with the face for radio. I'm surprised
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: to let you on tea. It's in high definition and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: everything that's scary, it really is. And it's, uh, you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I got around. When I go to camps, I have
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: my my camera with me and my crew and stuff,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and we do hits and like I had Philip Rivers
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and Jared Goffs and DLin Cook and Kirk Cousins and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, and you know, just like one of those guys,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's fun. I enjoy it. So, Pete, you're talking about
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this team going thirteen and three and why you picked them,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and you were talking about the defense, uh side of
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the ball, and you mentioned a couple of guys, young
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: guys you thought were improved. You said, Myles Jack. You know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: based on what the last year, at the end of
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the year you talked about in Gockway, Um possibly in
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the sack leader. Obviously you get the secondary led by
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Janalen Ramsey. I mean, so a bunch of good things.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: So here's one of my questions to you, and I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to say it's a concern, but if you
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: look at the production they had last year and how
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: they carried this team, I just will be shocked if
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you get similar numbers. I mean, this was a defense
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that scored, not just got to not just turn the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: ball over, but scored on defense like very few teams
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: have in the history of the NFL, and that's hard
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to repeat year over year. I mean, they carried the
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: team at times, winning football beat games because of what
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: they did defensively, scoring in turn and turning the team
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: over and scoring. I mean, can you expect that to
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: repeat you're over here. No, not to that extent. But
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: but and there's something else from last year that you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: can't count on to miss games by Kelvin Smith. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you had Paulpa's Lesnie who's not here anymore, to come
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in and pick up the slack in not that he
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: was Telvin Smith and coverage, but he was a veteran
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: guy who was pretty damn good and you didn't miss much. Right.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: But but again, if they have injuries on the defensive line,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I think they can get away with it a little bit.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: If they have injuries a linebacker, they have major problems.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: And if they have injury at corner, I think they
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: don't have major problems. So, yeah, you're right, there were
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of factors in play last year. But I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: also think that the run defense will be better. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: think Darius is gonna play much better this year and
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and and be back to what he used to be.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just do. I think Jackson's motivated. He'll
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: play very well, and he played good last year. Campbell,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you can expect that. I think he's going to play
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: at a high level again, but I also think you
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: can see some you know, and god way, the Fowler
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: gets back on the field, he's playing for a contract,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: so he's gonna be hungry as hungry can be. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and then you got I think David Bryant's gonna end
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: up being a rotation guy and be a factor as well.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I think there's depths up front. You know. You mention
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense, Tony, And when I was up there, I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: was talking to some guys up there, and I tried
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to compare the two defenses. And the one thing that
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: stands out to me Datsinville could come and waves up
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: front with guys. Right, they got a bunch of guys
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that can rotate in and move them around. And but
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Minnesota's down four guys get hurt, they got any one
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: of them. They have major problems. There's not a lot
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: behind them. And that's to me, is the biggest difference
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: between the two defenses. Well you talk about you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and the other thing that I'm not saying concerns me.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting to look at as far as production
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: on defense. I mean, can we expect fifteen sacks out
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of Clays Campbell? Again? I mean, here's a guy I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: think whose career high before that was nine JP. If
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken nine or ten, what do you think? Ye? Yeah,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: so I think he's gonna go to more like fifteen
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: or sixt My only point, I'm not being in an
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a ser I think this is I think this is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the best. I think this is Argua with the most
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: talented team in the a f C all all around,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: if you took you know, top to bottom starters and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: offensive defense, I think they're They're my favorite in the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: FC to go to represent the conference in the in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I just I don't think it's gonna
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: be the team we saw that or I don't think
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: their formula for victory is exactly the same as last year.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Last year it was a team that he had to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: play great defense, turn them over short, uh give a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: short fielded offense, really good special teams, try to score
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: on defense, and really for three quarters of the season, hey,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: let's just not screw it up on the offense. In fact,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: in the first playoff game Pete against Buffalo, their whole
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: game plan was don't screw it up on offense and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: played great defensive special teams. I just don't think you
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: can do that. And when consistently, I think this defense
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: is gonna be great. I think they will be better
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: in the run game. As you said, I'm not sure
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: they'll have the sack production maybe they did last year.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It's hard to repeat year over year. But I think
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: in Gockway is gonna be better. I like I think
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: when Jackson's have another great year. I think Briant the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: rookie is gonna be productive, uh and and help with
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: depth there. But I think it's the offense. I think offense,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the offense improvement is what's gonna make this team even
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: better than they were last year and why I have
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: them as the favorite to go to the super Bowl
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in the NFC. Now, last year, it was all defense.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Everything was about the defense. It was the defense has
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to do this. I remember j P We'll be talking
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: during the week on this show. On the Thursday show,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Jeff and I would be talking in pregame leading up.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: It was all about the defense. Can the defense get turnovers?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Can they score? Can they get short field? Every week?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I mean it was it was like we could have
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: just recorded it and hit repeat and just said it
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: every weekend and week out, where this year, Pete, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: think it's about the improvement of offense. I think Safari
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and Jakin's at tight end. I think the receivers are
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: gonna be better. I think they're younger and faster with
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the Shark. The addition of Shark, I think played portals
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: will be better. What I've seen out of Leondard for
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Nett is a different back, the way he's moving. And
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I think the offensive line, I'm not gonna say it
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: right now, but I think at the end of the
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: year we will say this is a top five line
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Wow, that's brave, man, But I do Tony.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I agree with your point though. As good as I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: think the defense is gonna be, it is going to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: be the improvement of the offense that puts them over
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the top what they did last year. And I always
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: say that there's always those seasons that a team has
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: not sustainable. What they did a year ago is not sustainable.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: That's not why I think they're gonna be the best
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: team in the in the conference when one of the best.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, i think they're gonna be the best
• 30:55
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• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I think cland Cole has a chance to be a
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: dynamic playmaker. I mean you look good during camp. Yeah,
• 31:05
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• 31:07
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• 31:08
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• 31:11
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• 31:13
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• 31:15
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  Speaker 1: and that's it was. It was a point during practice
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• 36:09
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  Speaker 1: guys in and tried think this has been the five
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  Speaker 1: that for this offensive line? Well, I think it's important. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's much different than last year when there it was
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  Speaker 1: a revolving door. Outside of Lender playing center and I
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  Speaker 1: guess Partnell playing right tackle. They had a bunch of
• 36:37
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  Speaker 1: still in a bunch of a bunch of unknowns. I mean,
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• 36:52
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  Speaker 1: and so he brings consistency ra and I think that
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• 37:08
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• 37:11
  Speaker 1: he play? He's done. He's been at every practice out
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: there doing a really good job. And uh, you know,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Lender's Lender and he's the best offensive linement out there. Yeah,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: he's the best offensive lineman in my opinion, on the team.
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  Speaker 1: If I was writing the one to five, he's won one,
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  Speaker 1: one and one. I mean he I think he. I
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: think there's a noticeable difference between Brandon Linder and the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the offensive linement. I just because I think
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  Speaker 1: that I think that highly of him. I think he's
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: just a outstanding player. Taking nothing away from Norwell at all.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I just think Linda is the best offensive linment from
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: what I've seen out there. Tody, how's the rookie looks
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: to tackle? Will will Richardson I think he's if he'll
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: be the future right tackle of this team. I don't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna beat out jare Me Parnell, but if
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: something happens to Parnell where he gets nicked or he
• 38:04
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• 38:08
  Speaker 1: feel confident with Willardson going out there and playing. Now,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: it's early. I want to see him in a preseason game.
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  Speaker 1: But he's a big, physical guy. Really uh strong in
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the lower body and he's stronger in the upper body
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: like a lot of young guys. But he's he's a
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  Speaker 1: tough kid and I like him a lot well. Coached
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a steel in the fourth round.
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• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I've made him fall a little bit. And uh, I
• 38:39
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• 38:41
  Speaker 1: JP and I talked about it when they made the pick,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: and uh, I think the depth he adds a tackle,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and I think he's a guy that if you need
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  Speaker 1: him to play, you can put him in there. That
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: right tackle. That's why the draft last year, when you
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: look at their draft as a whole, it was a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: draft to replace the cap, becomes an issue the entire draft, right.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't think I mean Will richard
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a I mean, you're not getting rid of Parnell
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  Speaker 1: because of the cap. I mean I think Jeremy part okay,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: he getting rid in that situation to getting rid of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: because he's getting up in the year, Tavin Taven Bryan.
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  Speaker 1: Is that for sure? Ronnie Harrison? Is that for sure?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: All the safety is gone for sure? I mean DJ
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Sharks not that he wasn't a guy to replace the cap.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I mean he's a He was a position that they need.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: They wanted to get vertical threat, faster and a playmaker.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they picked up. Also, you could have had
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• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and then you could you could replace him with that,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I disagree that they
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  Speaker 1: have a whole draft was I mean, and now maybe
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  Speaker 1: some of them. What do you mean, what do you
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  Speaker 1: mean you disagree? We just said that Will Richardson was
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: not that you said Moncreef isn't that he's on the
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  Speaker 1: one year, I didn't say mon Creef he wasn't the draft,
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  Speaker 1: and I said Shark wasn't who he wasn't drafted because
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: it wasn't drafted as a replaced guy. You said this
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  Speaker 1: whole draft was to replace guys because of the cap.
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  Speaker 1: That's not accurate and other reasons. Okay, you didn't say that.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't say that, Pete. I mean, listen, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what happens in South Florida with the nonsense down there,
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• 40:27
  Speaker 1: what you just said wasn't true. Okay, but Ronnie Harrison, Bryan,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: those are definitely that's part of the draft, not the
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  Speaker 1: whole draft. That was part of the draft. Okay, But
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  Speaker 1: if you wanted to make the point this was a draft.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Look at Pete ry defeated. I mean, I can't believe
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: you needed He's got nothing. I mean the domination, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I mean JP, the domination from last year continues right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it just continues. Year. People feel sorry for you.
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  Speaker 1: They come up to me on the street and they go, man,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's so approached everybody. Everybody at Jacksonville who
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  Speaker 1: just destroyed Tony, right, you just got destroyed right there. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: If your point is that this was a draft this
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  Speaker 1: past year of picking guys, young guys that they did
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  Speaker 1: not need to play immediately, that were for the future,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that, but not it wasn't just
• 41:40
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• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say luxury picks, but picks that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you did not have to count on making an impact
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: this year. But for cap reasons and and age reasons
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  Speaker 1: one year rent On Morey he was in the draft
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  Speaker 1: pick he was a free agent. I'm saying, But they
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  Speaker 1: of the Now they don't have to bring Moncrey back
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  Speaker 1: next year. Okay, you know what you think? Didn't bring
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• 42:17
  Speaker 1: no idea. I'm not sure you know, based on the uh.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Then they released the depth chart today unofficial depth chart,
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  Speaker 1: unofficial day. The Shark's number two. So I think remember
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: has been off to the side a bit and camp.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying practices. I'm not saying anything about it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just but the only thing you get a ready,
• 42:39
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• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that up. I never said he's getting cut right of
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Tony Bosellie, It's not true. That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: I like moon creepers that all along. But I thought
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: it was interesting that he starred on the depth chart.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: It's probably because he's hasn't been taken. He's been off
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to the side a little bit, right, Yeah, he's been great,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: no problem. I mean I think he's been dinged up
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit in camp. Yeah, he's mist a few
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: days of practice. Sharks are and by the way, sharks outstanding.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Does he get is it chart or shark shark? I thought,
• 43:21
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• 43:23
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  Speaker 1: year ago he couldn't stay on sides if you remember
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: he was running correct, Yeah, he was like running around
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the field half the time because he's jumping on sides.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Um Can Robinson is probably as as high as ceiling
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: is any offensive alignment on this team, as far as
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: just pure athletic ability, um body size and length. I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: still see some sloppiness in the technique that worries me
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: at times with Cam out in the field footwork which
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: leads to balance and and we saw that at the
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: end of last year a little bit. Um, So that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: does concern me a little bit. That you know, it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: early in camp, so there's plenty of time to work
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: on it. I'll be the first to tell you there's
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: many a camp where at the beginning, as an offensive alignement,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: it's a work in progress getting your feet right and
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable out there, especially when it comes to the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: past game and setting wide rushers and speed guys. Uh,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: but that needs to improve. He needs to keep on
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: working on it. I hope he's spenting time before and
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: after practice because I've seen him get into some trouble
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: at the practices I've been at with his footwork, especially
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: with the wide rushers. And if you're asking me, as
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I looked at this offensive line, what concerns me most,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: it would be that probably coming in I would have
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: thought the right tackle the right guard situation looked okay.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I think we all thought that might be a little
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: bit of an open battle. I don't see that at all.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: After watching camp, I think A j Can has been,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: without a doubt, the best right guard on the field.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I think he's played very well. I think he has
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: really worked on some of the things he struggled with.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I think he's playing with body, better body position, not
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: leaning as much. From the looks of it, he had
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: a great offseason in the weight room. He looks thicker
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and bigger and stronger. I think A j cans have
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: a really good year. I like what I've seen out
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: of him. Um, he did a contract here too, right, Hey, absolutely,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: you know how that works. Beat You know you love
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: it or hate it. The reality is when a guy
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: is playing for his livelihood, most of the time you
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: get the best out of him and take advantage of it.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: If you're the Jaguars. He he's looked really good in
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: camp so far, Um and so Cam. I'm not saying
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: it's a huge concern. It's not like, oh my gosh,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: we're in trouble. But I just have such high expectations
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: of camp because of his athletic ability and what I
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: think he can be. I hope he cleans up some
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of the footwork stuff that I think is a little
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: bit of an issue because it leads to balance issues
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: and he gets off balance and that's when he gets beat.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: What about his health last year? How much did that
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: impact you think? But he looked like he was dragging
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and everything else. Yeah, I think Pete, that's fair to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: say at the end of the year, and I think
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that's what we all kind of attributed to some of
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the footwork and bad positions he got into at times
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: because we didn't know what injuries he was dealing with
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and he was fighting through some stuff. Lower I think
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: it was an ankle lower. I can't remember his right
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: or left in the lower ankle lower leg injury around
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the ankle in the Indie game right up there up
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: in Indianapolis when he got danged. But that should be
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: it's a issue. Now he's healthy, and so you would
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you would hope to see those footwork issues cleaned up.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Um right now. Earlier I think he I'm with you, Tony.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I think he's he's been concerned with IF and and
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: a J was in Toup and down too much. That's
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: part of his problem because I have a really good
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: game and in a really bad game. But I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: you know, you say he looks great in this off season,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: and again I go back to his contract issue. Um,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get from Linda. You know we're
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: gonna get from Norwell. You know, if Parnell can trudge
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: through the season. I guess he's banged up all the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: time to last year and that bothered him a little bit.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But you want but Pete, I thought Parnell played better
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: than he got credit for last year. I thought he
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: was solid. I mean he's a good player. I mean,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's great. I'm not saying he's a
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl stop player. But I'll tell you this, big
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: physical dude, on the right side. I bet you if
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: fifteen to eighteen teams in this league would take him
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: a right tackle the way this off, you know, I mean,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he's a guy who can play. He's a presence out there.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell brings an attitude to this offensive line of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: toughness and just physicality. I think that is critical. UM.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I think Jerey Parnell is a key part of it.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the best offensive lineman out of
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the five, but I think he's better than he gets
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: credit for. And I thought he played better last year
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: as well. And I mean there's no doubt in my
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: mind who the right tackle is. And I think you'll
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: have another solid year, top five line though in the
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: league by the end of the year. Yeah, I think.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I think at the end of the year will be
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: saying that Pete, Wow, who the better lines? Who the better?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: A major jump forward for Cam Robins am Oh. I mean,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I think the best offensive line football is the Philadelphi Eagles.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: They have the best center, right guard, right tackle by far.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: If Jason Peters comes back at left tackle, which all
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: reports is, I would think he's going to UM. I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: think the Philadelphi Eagles are the best offensive line in football. Wait,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the Eagles have a better offensive line in the Caboy
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: when they're all healthy, based on how they played last year. Pete,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you tell me a better offensive line in the Eagles. Boy,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't take You would take Zach Martin over Brooks.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: You watched Brooks play last year, Pete, Brooks played every
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Brooks played every bit as good as Zack Martin. They're
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: both great players. But you watched Brooks last year. I
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: know Brooks played well last year, but you still take
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Zack martinover It's a coin flip. No, it's not. And
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: then Chelsey and Frederick is a wash lane lane Johnson
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: is better than uh, you're yeah, he's better than him.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And then the left tackle Tyrone smiths on the field
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: as better than Jacob Peters. Las Smith is not better
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: than Jacob Peters. You're showing your old age by it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I love Tyron Smith. I love him. But if you're
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: asking me when Tyron Smith is healthy, which he wasn't
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: last year, because and when Jason Peters is healthy, which
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: he was the only the first half of year before
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: he blew his a c l out. Jason Peters to
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: me is one of the is a great left tackle,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: run past space. His athletic abilities off the charts. He's mean,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: he plays with an edge. I think Jason Peters is
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: fabulous and I would have Listen, I'm not gonna if
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: you're asking me what I take Tyron Smith every day
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: and twice on Sunday. But if you're asking me two
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: healthy guys, now, this might be the year where Tyron
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Smith is clearly better than Jason Peters because of age
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: and coming off in a c L. I'm not doubting
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: that one bit beat. You might be right. But if
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you're asking me in the first half of last year,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: who would have taken Jason Peters was playing great football
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the first half of Yes, in my opinion, don't say
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that he might. I might. What you're asking me your question,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: you do. You think Jason Peters is Hall of Famer?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I don't he borderline that's fair. I think Jason Peters
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: is a fabulous player. He's been a really good player.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: But again, you're talking about a guy he's starting to
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: break down. He got hurt last year and he's not
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: a kid anymore. Now that's fair. This might be the earpeat,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: but I think the listen, the Cowboys are one of
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the top offensive lines as well when they're healthy. I mean,
• 56:14
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• 56:16
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• 56:19
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• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: was like you took about. It doesn't take much, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: John on the line with us, what's up John? Hey boys,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: good to hear from you. I wanted to get your
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Dante Moncree. When we signed them, we threw
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit of money at him. I was kind
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: of hoping he would take on that number one receiver role.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: But with the depth chart that just came out, being
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: on official and seeing chart step up and Lee continue,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I was wondering what you guys think, Where do you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: think he's going to land on the depth chart? And
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: do you really think he's going to be able to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: hold onto a number one spot or do we just
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: get a number two or number three receiver. But by
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the way, one year deal nine point six million dollars
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: guaranteed four million dollars signing bonus. That's according to spot track.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: So he's gonna be on this team for no other
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: reason than the salary that you just heard. I wouldn't
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: read into the unofficial depth chart, even though we did
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: bring it up. Uh, it's unofficial. It's early. He's been
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I think Nick. I'm not even sure what he's been
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: nicked with. JP don't know if it's been even disclosed.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: But he's missed a couple of practices, but he's had
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the last two days. He's practiced and is practiced very well.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be the number one receiver, uh,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna be in the rotation. I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a guy. You're gonna see h
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: play quite a bit. And I get the sense that
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be a team Pete that the number
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: one receiver could change week to week. It's kind of
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the hot hand maybe based on matchups and sit you ations.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Helan Cole is gonna have
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: a big year. Lee's going to be that underneath slot guy.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Shark's gonna be stretching the field. And I think you know,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Dante is a guy who can do a lot of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: different things. He's played the slot in Indianapolis, he can
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: play outside. He's big um. But I'm guessing those are
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: probably your top four guys that you're gonna see and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: it will be interested. The big question mark I have
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: is DD Westbrook. Where does he fit into the to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the rotation? Look pretty good in camp so far, so
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I think, by the way, sure, no I said Shark,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah Chark, No, I said Chark. I think you said Shark.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I know it's a it's a struggle. It's a struggle.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: At least he's close, Pete, We're just that week on
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the Discovery Channel. They don't have Shark weeks. They have Shark.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: It's Shark. Chuck Chuck, Yes, Chuck DJ Shark. So there's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: the receiver breakdown, but the k don't worry, Pete, you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: disagree with that assessment over the I think you're accurate.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I do You're You're right about this six guys. You know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: if you keep here in all off season, it's I'm
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be up there even in the camp that Rashad
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Green has been really good. He's had his days. Yes,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Shards look good, d D Westbrooks look good. I mean
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: those are the six guys. Then you have jan On Mickens,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: who's your punt returner. He's had his days too. If
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: he becomes you know, the punt returning threat or you know,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: he wins that job, now you have a bunch of issues.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I think one of those guys gets traded before the preseason,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: isn't really one of one of what guys. I think
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: one of the receivers gets traded. Yeah, but like which
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: what's a guy it's not gonna be. It's not gonna
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: be Shark or shark like one of the three guys
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: who just talked like a like a Bickens or Mickens
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: is't gonna get I can see Rashot Green getting traded. Um,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: what about Westbrook? Maybe Westbrook? I mean, it wouldn't shock me.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's on. I think
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: he okay, I think I think what they would love
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to happen in a perfect world that did he Westbrook
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: wins the punt returning job and so he can be
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: the fifth or six receiver on this football team. Correct,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: But if Jaydon Mickens just dominates in the punt return game,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: then they're gonna have an issue. And that's where I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: can see them trading a receiver. M Interesting, we gotta,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: we gotta. We got a great feet from somebody who
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: made this ad. You see it in a second. It
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: is I love it. It's very good little graphic. So Pete,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: But I mean, would you not agree that the top
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: four receivers are Lee, Shark, Cole, and Moncreef. Probably not
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: in that of order though, No, I'm just saying just
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: just yeah, those are the four guys with d D
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: right now. I put d D at five, with shaw
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Green at six, and then you know, probably if you're
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: talking straight receiver, probably Shane Win would be ahead of
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Jadon Mickins. But Mickens has the advantage in the punt
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  Speaker 1: return game. Correct, But there's no real surprise there at
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that spot, right nobody. Well, I think the big thing
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna when we get closer, and we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: this a bunch in the next three or four weeks,
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  Speaker 1: is when we get closer to cut down day, because
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: remember there's no nine seventy five to fifty three, it's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: just fifty three. And so when we get to that
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: cut down the big question around receivers, who's the punt
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  Speaker 1: returner without to determine it? And then are you keeping five? Six?
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  Speaker 1: Could you keep seven receivers? I just don't think so much.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see that. I don't either. My guess as
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  Speaker 1: you keep six and with one of them being the
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  Speaker 1: punt returner, and how many tight ends you keep it? Three?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe four? Because you play a lot of two tight
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: and cents? Right, So who do you keep? You keeps?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: The Ferry and Jaggins you keep right? And then then
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  Speaker 1: my guess is Niles Paul will be on there because
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: he's special teams guy as well. And then who's four?
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  Speaker 1: If you kick four? Yeah, see that that they probably
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  Speaker 1: keep it three? You're keeping the fullback? You're keeping? How
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: many backs? Yelled In and Corey Brann are on the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: team for sure? Yeah, I mean it's always it's always interesting. Well,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say if we wanted to, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to do this because I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: board everyone listening now, we probably could cut that. I
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  Speaker 1: bet you we could get and we'll do it after
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  Speaker 1: the first preseason game next week. I bet you we can.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see well. I bet you we could get fifty
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: of the fifty three man roster. You're gonna go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and cut the team next week on this show. No,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, but I know you
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: don't want to. We just said we're going to Pete
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: now will do it in private. Loves it. I don't
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: like doing that. I don't like taking guys got jobs
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: part of life. I'm not saying it's not part of life.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not my job to do it. Well it
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: next week we'll do that. We'll take care of that
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: for you. You can sit here and you're not gonna
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: be here anyway. I'll be here, We'll be going. I'll
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: be in the same thing Pete's doing right there. No,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: next week, I'm here. It's amazing. I'm actually gonna be
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: here two weeks in a row. I can't even believe it.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I know you're shocked. Let's go back to the phone lines.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: We'll go to the north side, Mac and what's up Mac? Chris?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: They hey, Mac Man, call Pete in your own personal time,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: you guys and catch up about it. You know what's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: going on? They go hating again, you're a hater, Tony.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: What's up y'all doing? Man's glad to hear y'all back
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: on back on the here. What's up? Man? Do you
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: have a question? You're just greeting us and giving us salutations.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: The actually guy actually got a quick you know, Marcelari man,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: you gon to stake just this trouble. Uh, you know,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: just think with these girls. I heard about it, but
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: then again, ain't kid't know more about it because you
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: know we need him, you know, because he's he's good
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: on that line, that stopping that room. What y'all thinking?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Watch to play? Aft gonna pay? He might say some
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: kind of despension. Now some mean that that that much
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: as they've given. It just depends on how quick the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: process plays out. And we see guys get suspended in
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: a year for something they did last year. We starting
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: on this defensive line already, Dante Feller get a game
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: this year from for a game for what he did
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: last year. So but you're gonna let it play out
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: and let's be honest about it. Like I said about
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of these situations, including Shaney, McCoy, if there's
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: some truth to any of it. Football is the least
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: important thing that they should be worried about, right, I mean,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the last thing you should be
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: worried about, to be focusing on what's going to happen
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: next in the legal process. So, um, you know they'll
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: play out in hopefully whatever happens happens, and you know,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know what happened, so they
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: figure it all out and you just gotta speculate on it,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: and he'll be there, so they figure that. And Pete,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, because this is it was in
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: the news a number of weeks ago. But the the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: legal issues that Marcel's facing our civil and not criminal.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: That's the way I understand that. That's how I understand that.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: But also in the way his is. Yeah, but I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: was talking about I'm talking about I want to ask
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: you about Shady in a second. But Darius, I believe
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  Speaker 1: is no, the league doesn't care. The league will suspend
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: you whether it's civil or criminal. Now it might be worse.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: If it's criminal, you might be kicked out the league forever.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: If it's criminal to peach, if you did if if
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: you should have much bigger issues to worry about them
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: playing football if it's a criminal uh uh legal issue
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: that you're dealing with. But I'm just just for clarification
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: for everyone listening to us. I believe the Marcel Darius
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  Speaker 1: legal issues that he is that are out there kind
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: of uh in the media and people are talking about
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: are of the civil nature and not the criminal nature.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I believe that's accurate. Pete. I know you're you've covered
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  Speaker 1: it probably better than we have. Well, there was a
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: there's two there's two intes, two civils. Yeah, yeah, two
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: separate lawsuites. That's all they are. And then you mentioned,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: just real quickly, not to divert from Max question, but
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: the shady what's the latest of the Shade McCoy stuff.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I mean that kind of so they're doing there, there's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation into it. And again what I what
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: I said earlier, and I've said this on our air,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: if there is any link to him whatsoever, he's done football.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: You know, he keeps saying I want to focus on football.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: That's that's going to be the least of your concerns, dude.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, what happened to that that woman was awful.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: It was awful. That's right. Yeah, I think he's got
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: them explaining to do and they're still doing the investigation. Alright.
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  Speaker 1: there and I'm very excited. There's Miles jack Jaguar's linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier Sunday, in fact, Jaguars Happy our rules along J P. Shadick,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Selly, Pete Risco. Miles Shackson is starting middle linebacker
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  Speaker 1: for this football team full time now. And is that
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  Speaker 1: that's not okay. I'm just telling you a fact that
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  Speaker 1: He was not last year. I think we all knew
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  Speaker 1: that the day PAULI retired. Just telling you this what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why you're hearing from Miles jack And you know,
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  Speaker 1: is a very talented obviously a talented deep group, but
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  Speaker 1: they have experience at the high level. There's eight players
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  Speaker 1: on this team with Pro Bowl experience. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where that ranks in the league or anything, but Miles
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  Speaker 1: Jackson on that list. Here's a feeling though that that
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  Speaker 1: Miles could be the guy to to take that next
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  Speaker 1: step as we move along here this year. The fabulous
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  Speaker 1: player where you saw that he did in the playoffs. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's a he's a fabulous player. The question at linebacker
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  Speaker 1: is not whether Myles Jack is good where they can
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  Speaker 1: play middle linebackers, not whether Telvin Smith is good and
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  Speaker 1: he's a dynamic one of the better will linebackers in football.
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  Speaker 1: The question is depth. I mean that's the question right now.
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  Speaker 1: You had a rookie, Uh, Leon Jacobs is the starting
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  Speaker 1: SAM linebacker, seventh round pick out of out of Wisconsin. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. And you know so you look, you
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  Speaker 1: have Blair Brown's probably your backup will linebacker. Um. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of depth at that position.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you hope you can stay healthy like
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  Speaker 1: you did last year at Miles and Telvin stayed healthy.
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  Speaker 1: You're not gonna worry about it. But that was probably
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  Speaker 1: one of those positions where they'll go pluck guys off
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  Speaker 1: other people's rosters after cut. Uh. Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think you know that's one if a guy you
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  Speaker 1: know does get drafted, you can look at I mean
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  Speaker 1: that draft gets cut, you know you feel like you
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  Speaker 1: can upgrade the back half of your roster and add
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  Speaker 1: linebacker depth. I would agree with you, Um, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think right now Payne UH is the backup mic linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right? I didn't look at the UH watching
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  Speaker 1: the practices. I didn't look at the depth tarp. But
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: looking at the watching practice he's been running with the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: number two is quite a bit. Um. And so there's
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  Speaker 1: just some Donald Payne, you know. So there's just he's
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: the second year player out of Stetson. So there's just
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  Speaker 1: a lot of questions beat as you look at UH.
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  Speaker 1: In my mind, after Miles Jack and after Telvin Smith,
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  Speaker 1: you know what you have. Here's here's a question. I
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  Speaker 1: as for you guys, you've been around Frank honestly read
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  Speaker 1: a lot about this. It sounds like Hayden has been
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  Speaker 1: okay as the nickel corner. I want to ask you
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  Speaker 1: about him and Ben Harrison's done. How do you look?
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  Speaker 1: I think they like Harrison a lot. To answer your
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: second question, UM, he's smart enough, guy, knows where to
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  Speaker 1: be and has always seemed to be in the right
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  Speaker 1: place so far. Um, Hayden, you know, I think I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's a done deal the nickel spot.
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  Speaker 1: I would say Tyler Patman has had some really good practices,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely so, And and they paid Hayden some money to
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  Speaker 1: come in here and play that position. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that's far from finished. I think that's an open competition.
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  Speaker 1: In part of the reason it remains open, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even sure it's that d J. Hayden is playing poorly.
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  Speaker 1: I think Tyler Patmans is having a really good camp,
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  Speaker 1: and and the Harrison thing, I think is this goes
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  Speaker 1: along and you know, we'll see what happens when he
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  Speaker 1: gets into two real games in the preseason. But so far,
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  Speaker 1: I think they like him enough to try to find
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  Speaker 1: a way to get him out there. Um, if you
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: had to play Week one today, you might just he's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: not gonna overtake Barry Church, I don't think obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: he might push Barry a little bit and make Barry
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: elevate his game a little bit more. Well, It'll be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Those are decisions if you're gonna make that major of
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  Speaker 1: a decision where because if Barry Church isn't your starter,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably cutting correct um, and for that to happen,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: that means Ronnie Harrison. It's not just having good practices.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: He has to be great in the preseason. Is there
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: any way though you could put another safety out there?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Why not devise some kind of safety, put a third
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: safety in and take out a linebacker. I mean they
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: already have. Ronnie Harrison's the same size as Delvin Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Basis true. Good point. I mean, so now you basically
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: be having to undersized guys. You need a SAM linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: a guy you know. Now, if you had what you're
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: saying would be accurate. If you had a big SAM
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: linebacker that you played on first and second down and
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: you said Ronnie Harrison could be your will linebacker in
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: first and second down against regular personnel, I could see that.
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  Speaker 1: But with Keelvin Smith being that will linebacker, you're not
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  Speaker 1: taking him off the field, and you're not gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison to play on the line of scrimmage on
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: the tight end as the SAM linebacker. And again it's
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: early in camp too, when we're ten days in the camp,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: haven't played a preseason. He does on the field, but
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: to JP's point, he's done a good job. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so if you're looking at the second day, I think
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the Nickels wide open still. DJ Hayden might have a
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: little bit of a edge because of the contract he signed,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: and we all know how that works. It's just it's
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: human nature at times. But Tyler Pattman has done a
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: great job. I mean Tyler Patton. And he's a guy
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: who came in and limited reps last year when Aaron
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Colvin got hurt, and so he's a guy who's done it.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: He knows knows the defense, so they're comfortable with him
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: in that situation. Um, so he'll push d J. Hayden.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: That's a good can't battle the watch, and I think
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: that will be decided based on how they play in
• 1:22:27
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• 1:22:30
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  Speaker 1: the only job on defense, it does look like Leon
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  Speaker 1: job that will be decided in the preseason is the
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  Speaker 1: they want to see what happens on the field. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's too early to say that. Pete. Um,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's farm boy far, you know, far and
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  Speaker 1: away the favorite right now. I'm not sure what that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: says about the depth of the same linebacker position after
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: ten days a rookie seventh rounder. Is you're starting Sam linebacker? Um,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: But based on what I've seen, I'm not sure who's
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  Speaker 1: pushing him right now? Is gonna be better than him?
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  Speaker 1: Right now? I don't know. So I think the biggest
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  Speaker 1: question is I I said it all along, Pete, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, hasn't changed coming to the camp. I thought
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  Speaker 1: the two questions on the defense with a Sam linebacker
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  Speaker 1: in first and second down, and who your nickel is
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  Speaker 1: going to be? I think that I have the same
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  Speaker 1: questions right now. All right, Tony, are you ready to
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  Speaker 1: We're doing it. You're just gonna read it from your
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  Speaker 1: little more music, Joe, a little louder music, please God,
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• 1:24:27
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• 1:24:37
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• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: a great question. I'm ales Jack is gonna have an
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: outstanding here. Think Miles Jack is gonna take a step up.
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• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: can cover, he can run, he can blitz, He's an
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  Speaker 1: explosive hitter. Um. With all that said, Jalen Ramsey's the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: best corner in football, and Jalen Ramsey will be the
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: best corner at the end of the year in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: be the best middle linebacker. Jalen Ramsey will have a
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  Speaker 1: better year. Jalen Ramsey very well could be defensive Player
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  Speaker 1: of the Year, or at least in the conversation, because
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  Speaker 1: Will will shy away from throwing his direction. I'm with
• 1:25:58
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  Speaker 1: the league. I think he's in the conversation for defensive
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  Speaker 1: player of the Year this year. I think Miles Jack
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely great, Wow, we agree on the first Twitter question
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  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed, Frankly, we haven't got that sponsored yet, like
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the catch rule has been updated. Uh, catch
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  Speaker 1: the ball two feet or a body part down in
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  Speaker 1: bit concerning. Before you go there, because I want Pete
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  Speaker 1: the updated catch rule great love it, make it easier
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  Speaker 1: possession two feet body part football move and that's what
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  Speaker 1: Perry said to It's just it's simple. It's not that hard.
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  Speaker 1: a football move basically. That's great and interesting enough. That
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  Speaker 1: The second, this is the rule I want to spend
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  Speaker 1: time on and pete your back correct. So the use
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  Speaker 1: of the helmet. Um, here's my problem with this rule.
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  Speaker 1: They want to take out, you know, hitting with the
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  Speaker 1: top of the helmet. Um. Does anyone realize that that's
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  Speaker 1: been a rule forever that you're not allowed to spear people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's already in the rule book. So why
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  Speaker 1: are we all of a sudden now saying you can't
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  Speaker 1: do it? And because of it, it's me an emphasis,
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  Speaker 1: and because of that, it's gonna be called and it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be called poorly, and it's there's gonna be flags
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  Speaker 1: all over the field. We saw in the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame game that good hits are gonna be flagged. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's no recourse, there's no there's no replay to see
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  Speaker 1: if on a bang bang play that the officials got
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  Speaker 1: it right. I mean they're gonna call it throughout the game,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: throughout the field, meaning offensive linemen, I mean all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of I mean, it's if you call that to a
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: t how are we gonna play football? Well, Toby, I
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: think they're using the preseason to steel it out. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're actually gonna see all those flags.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: It's better to throw him now, take a look at
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: and saying it, that's not a foul. We'll come back
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: and we'll do we'll revisit it as we go throughout
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: the preseason. I think that's what the preseason is going
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  Speaker 1: to be. There's gonna be a lot of upset fans
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason. There's gonna be a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: complaining in the preseason. But they have to figure it
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  Speaker 1: out what exactly they're going to call. But I'm with
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  Speaker 1: you if they think they're calling every edge shot, no
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: matter where it is, where it is to the body
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: if you forget about playing the game. Yeah, it's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not football. I say this the last three years
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  Speaker 1: I've said this on this show. Football is dangerous, there's risk.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't like it, don't play it. And Pete,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: am I wrong that there's rules, There's been rules in
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: the book forever that you're not supposed to spear people
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  Speaker 1: or the running back. You always remember that I put
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: that room on a couple a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: The running back couldn't lower his head. And how many
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: times have you seen it? Call? Never? Never, not about before,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: But I've always been from from when I played. See
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  Speaker 1: what you hit? You're not allowed to hit with the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: top of your helmet, but the top of the helmet
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: gets used a lot, I know. But they never called
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: it right correct. There was never a point of Emphis.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Never and it is now and they're and they're calling now.
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  Speaker 1: They're calling it everywhere. I mean in the pit. I
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: mean you know what they can see. You're an offensive lineman, Tony.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: When you were an offensive linement, how often did you
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: hit with the clown in your helmet? I don't know,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: probably sometimes, Yeah, I mean you fire off the ball
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: goal line you're trying to get underneath guys. I mean
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: it happens. Technically, technically, you can't run the quarterback sneak
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: anymore because they leave with their head. Well, if he
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: makes contact with the teammate first, then that wouldn't count, right,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: that's one exception to it. But you know, as an
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: offensive lignement, it'll make the way people used to blow
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: rush and put their head down and try to run
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: you over. I're gonna call that now on a defensive
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: end as he tries to bowl rush and if his
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: heads down, it's the first thing that technically, I mean,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: come on, I mean it's it's you know, I think
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: someone who was telling me and I don't want to
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: it was a Vikings player. I believe, I want to that.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: They was wearing a hat play on President Trump's Make
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  Speaker 1: American Great Again. He said, make football violent again. Pete
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: the Do you see that hat? Yeah, but we also
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: put a face mask on the top of his helmet
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: to say, okay, that way, he turned it around upside
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: down to make it look like he's not gonna hit.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: I want one of those hats. Make football violent again.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: I want that hat. Yeah, But you understand why with
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: every lawsuit and this and that and everything else about
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: head trauma. You know why they're trying to do this. Okay,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: but then are we gonna outlaw every because first I'm
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: not gonna get into this whole concussions. How concussions actually happen.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: It's the movement of the brain. It happens in soccer,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: it happens in across it happens at all, bike riding,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: it happens in every sport, basketball, It can happen in
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: any sport. So football is the one that we all
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: want to, you know, jump on board. So my solution
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: is very simple. If you want to play football in
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: the NFL or in college football when you're an adult,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: you can sign a way of saying, I understand the
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: risk a football, that there's a chance that my brain
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: might not be the same when I get older, And
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: there's risk. Just like risking everything, there's risking every area
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: of our lives. If you don't want someone said it
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: best to me, and I agree. Football isn't for everybody.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: It's just not for everybody. And that's okay, that's saying
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: it makes you a bad person. It's just not for everybody.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna you're gonna change the game so much.
• 1:38:22
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• 1:38:24
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• 1:38:27
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• 1:38:31
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  Speaker 1: These are die hard watched five games of Sunday on
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Direct TV, play fifteen different fantasy leagues, and now they're
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: being overreactive. They're gonna watch it. No, But my point is,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: you get you keep on going too far down this path.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: At some point it's like, what are we doing? I mean,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: here's the rule that no one's talking about, Pete, Because
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: now a quarterback does not have to slide to give
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: themselves up. If they dive head first, they're giving themselves up.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: That's it. It's in the rule, right, Pete. Yeah, well
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: it's not a rule with the point of emphasis. But
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: hold on backup? Is that not accurate though? Of quarterback?
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Now when they dive they're giving themselves up dive head first? Yes, Okay,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: so let's let's say hold hold on, let's let's take
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: this through. Pete. You're on the goal line and it's
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: fourth and one end of the game and you're a
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: quarterback or it's fourth and one in the middle of
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: the field and you're trying to get that first down
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna make contact where typically you
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: would slide and just give yourself up, and you dive
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: head first trying to go over or through a defender
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: to get that game winning touchdown or game winning extending
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: first down. The way it is written now, Pete, you
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: are down as soon as you initiate the dive. So
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: we think that's another But I think that's another one, Tony,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: where if you' wide and somebody hits you within reason,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: it's a flag, right, Okay, But the way it's driving,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: it's driving into the end zone and nobody's around, they're
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: not gonna somebody's around. People are around, there's bodies on
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: the defense around you, and they're not going to call
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: that giving yourself off. Yes, Pete, the way the way
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I see they was just read, but in reality it's
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be called. I mean, they're gonna use common sense
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: on this. Really, they use common sense. If we've watched
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: some of these common sense things that we've seen, we're
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: perfectly clean. Hits are called defenseless receivers. This is from
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: the NFL Operations website. I love the initial protection of
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: runners who give themselves up Committee. I hope I'm wrong.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: The committee clarified the protections for slatting quarterbacks and any
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: runner who gives himself up. One. If a runner, including quarterback,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: gives himself up that he's down with a first body
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: part touches the ground, the runners should not benefit from
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: additional yardage after the first body part touches. Defenders do
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: not have to go down to initiate contact to stop
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: a runner from gaining more yards after he contacts the ground. Okay,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: so once he's down, he's done. Quarterbacks and all runners
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: must give themselves up early, and if a defender has
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: committed to a tackle, contact may occur. However, that contact
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: cannot be late or to the head or neck area
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: of the player who gave himself up. Three. A quarterback
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: does not have to slide feet first to be considered
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: to be giving himself up, regardless whether the slide his
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: feet first or head first. As long as he gives
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: himself up, he should receive the protections afforded to him
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: as a player in a defenseless posture. There you have it. Okay,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: So if you're so, if you dive tech the way
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: that Now, if you're diving for the goal line, are
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: you giving yourself up? Are you diving? You're diving for
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: the goal line, Tony, you can give yourself up at
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: the twenty yard line with nobody around you. You're down now.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: So let's say it's fourth and one on the thirty five,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: you're going in and you dive. Are you giving yourself
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: But my point is we're leaving this, but we're leaving
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: this ambiguity that we're gonna ask, ambiguity that we're gonna
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: ambiguity ambiguity is that all right? Whatever? Whatever it sounds
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: like what I'm saying, We leave all these gray areas,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: like the old catch rule, that officials are gonna be
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: making these decisions on the field instead of making it
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: very If you what what was wrong with the old
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: rule When you slid feet first, you gave yourself up
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: and you were down where your body made contact. Why
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: did we have to change that? Well, because well, you
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: know what, you can give your retiemer can give himself
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: up without sliding down, as in that form he could
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: have slid down all the time. You've seen it happen before.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Why did we have to change the rule? Have you
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: not seen a receiver catch Penn and he gives himself
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: he puts his knee down. Yeah, okay, but you're I'm
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: asking the question, why do we have to change the
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: rule that if you in the old rules very simple,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: if you dive head first, you're not giving yourself up
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: to protect the quarterbacks. But it's too much. So here's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: the other Well, you just know, here's my other question.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: He justified and I think it's gonna be pretty clear.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: Here's the other question. You have the whole leading with
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: the helmet. So Pete Blake bortles end of the game
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl and he's scrambling, dives
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: head first into the end zone and contacts a defender
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: with his helmet first as he's diving for the game
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: winning touchdown. Is that gonna be a fifteen year Apparently
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: we're gonna back it up. Doesn't count by the letter
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: of the law. It is no imagining. No, he's diving,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: that know. The rule says, if you're the first contact
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: is made with the top of your helmet, if you
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: lead with anybody part, whether you're an offense or defense
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: or defensive player into another player with the top of
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: your head. It is a penalty that every single time
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: I got should just stand there and let him run
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: into him. That officiating standards for the use of helmet
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: rule are lowering the head one not to include bracing
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: for contact. Number two, initiating contact with a helmet to
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: any part of an opponent. Contact does not have to
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: be to a head or neck area, lowering the head
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: an initiating contact an opponent's torso, hips and lower body
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: as a foul die and then three making contact on
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: an opponent both offense and defense. So if I'm the
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: quarterback and I dive into the end zone and the
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: first thing that hits the defender is my helmet. If
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: you're in the end zone, it's it's not just like
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: it's a defensive receiver you hit. I mean, by the rule,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: if I'm if I hit somebody in the end zone,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: it is a penalty. Okay, Let's send the balls across
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: the goal. Okay, Let's say the balls not across the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: goal line, and my head is contacting as I'm diving.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Don't use the quarterback, use the running back. Okay, running back. Fine,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: running back does the same thing running into the it's
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: hit at the goal line and lowers his head and
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: makes contact with his head before falling into the end zone.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: That's the penalty on the running back or the same
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: with the That's my point. That's ridiculous. It's the end
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: of the game. You're trying to go the super when
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: you're diving in, but you don't not diving in. We're
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: talking about just lowering ear. Doesn't matter. Piving in and
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: lowering your head or two different things. Read the last
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: part of the rule. Read the last part of the
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: rule JP again. If you lead with the head, lead
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: with the head, Pete diving, you're leading initiating contact with
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: a helmet to any part of an opponent. That's that's diving.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, they're not going to call it on dives.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: They're gonna call it on guys you lower their head
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: to lead. You're not lowering your head when you're diving.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: You're not about lowering your head. But it's about leading
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: with your head. That's the rule. You heard John Perry
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: talk about how official would see it. They're trying to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: eliminate the guys putting their eyes down. Okay, face mask
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: down and and hitting with the head. I understand that,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: But have you ever seen a when someone dives, what's
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: the first thing that leads? What's the first thing that
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: hits you heard what the referee say. My point is this,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: this rule was unnecessary because in the rule book you
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: were not allowed to spear people. Already as a defender.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: In the rule book, you were not allowed to line
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: up people and initiate contact with your head if you're
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: a running back. Those were already in the rule How
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: don't we just called the rules are in there, instead
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: of creating these new rules like the old catch rule
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: that leads to all this gray area. Now that we're
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: gonna ask these officials and bang bang plays to make
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: decisions of did he lead with his head? Well, he dove.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: He was trying for his life to win the Super
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: Bowl or get to the playoffs. But he lead with
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: his head and the first thing that hit the torso
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: of the defender was his head as he for the
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: end zone. Well, by the letter of the law, guess what, guys,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: you're going back fifteen yards and you're out of the playoffs. Hey, Pete,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: common sense? Yeah, because there was Pete there was so
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: much common sense with the catch rule before this year.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: That's why, I mean, people were up in arms common
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: sense and the way we officiate this game. These this
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: game at times not in the same sentence. Hey, Pete, Well,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: players adjust to this, yes, and you're already seeing it
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: to do it. As I traveled around. One of the
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: things I've noticed that teams are doing a lot more,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: you know, rugby type tackling. They're teaching their guys put
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: the head on the side. Let me know how it
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: goes when they're going full speed. Well, I know when
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: you try and teach it that way, Tony, I mean,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I know it's doing it in a game. Just like
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: anything you do in a game, it's hard to it's
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: hard to gage game speed. You know that. I just
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: want to understand, Pete. You tell me you've been around
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: a long time. Haven't there been anti spear? Not allowed
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: to spear, you're not allowed to line up running backs
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: and lead with your head? Have those rules already been
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: in the game, right? So? Why so? Guess what? Why
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: don't we call them? So now we're gonna create this
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: new Now we're gonna we're gonna create this new rule
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be an emphasis and it will be an issue.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: I promise you this year it will be a major
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: storyline up the regular season and we'll be an issue. Hey,
• 1:48:19
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• 1:48:22
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• 1:48:26
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  Speaker 1: I I hope you're right, Pete, as far as it'll
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  Speaker 1: be like what we've seen in the past. I remember
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  Speaker 1: what was what two or three years ago where they
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  Speaker 1: emphasized the legal contact by the defender and we had
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  Speaker 1: about a thousand flags for illegal contact on defensive backs
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  Speaker 1: and wide receivers. And it was a disaster in the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: It changed once the season started. Yeah, and and everything
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  Speaker 1: in the pre seasons magnified his football back and everybody, well,
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  Speaker 1: but every little thing. My concern though, is is you
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  Speaker 1: look at the whole defenses the receiver rule that we've
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: had in a couple of years now, and I still
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: don't think that's called equitably. I think it's very difficult
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: called what equitably? A lot of syllables for you. He
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: left a few hours. He might have missed one there.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think I did. It's not equitable. Is that better? Equitable?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Is that better? You're okay with that? Great? I mean, JP,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: I don't talk about your gap teeth in your bald
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: head and your fat belly and the fact that, I
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  Speaker 1: five three to fifty years wide as you're as tall,
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  Speaker 1: not quite close. I don't think that your eyes are
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• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: and you're twenty three years of marriage. I don't care
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: of marriage. I don't care. I don't care. What was
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: your point. My point was, Mike, the defenseles receiver is
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: that's it's an impossible call to make for the officials
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: because it's so bang bang and it's so difficult and
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: and they miss it all the time for where the
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: defender hits, you know, because there's a small window where
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: they are able to hit the receiver and the receiver
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: ducks his head and it's still on the defense. I
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: mean that rule, we've seen two more knee shots that
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: nobody likes, and so is this new rule even to
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: create more knee shots because nobody wants to even get
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: close to uh the head area. So I sure hope not,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: because that's that's you know, but that's what that's what,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: that's what concerns me with this rule. I'm all for
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: making the game as safe as you possib we can,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: but at some point it's it's football and it's dangerous
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: and there's I mean, guys are getting hurt unfortunately, and
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: my and my pet peeves, my pet peeves. We've had
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: these rules in place where if they were called correctly,
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to you're not allowed to spear people.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: You're not allowed to line people up if your running
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: back with the top, with with the crowd of your helmet.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: All those things were in place and we don't call it,
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  Speaker 1: and now we're gonna put this rule that's gonna make
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  Speaker 1: it very difficult. Let me answer that you think these
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  Speaker 1: this rule might actually contribute to some more injuries because
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  Speaker 1: the guys trying to avoid using their head. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: do no different than I think the defensive receiver led
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  Speaker 1: the more knee shots than we saw in the past.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not just talking about shots on
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  Speaker 1: the receiver's knees. I'm talking about like guys shoulders and
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  Speaker 1: neck You know, I don't know about that. I think
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  Speaker 1: what you're gonna maybe, but I think what you see
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  Speaker 1: more than anything is sloppy and miss tackles. And you
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  Speaker 1: talked about trying to play defense in today's NFL, the
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  Speaker 1: rules that they are in place, I don't know when
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  Speaker 1: you're supposed to hit somebody or not anymore. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you don't do it anymore because you can't. And not
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  Speaker 1: only that now you've changed that, you know guys can
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  Speaker 1: slide head first and give themselves up. I mean if
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  Speaker 1: I'm a defender. When am I allowed to hit somebody?
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  Speaker 1: Somebody just write a memo to me when I can
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  Speaker 1: hit somebody when I can't? Because right now, if they dive,
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  Speaker 1: I can't, If they slide, I can't, If they lower
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  Speaker 1: their head, I gotta I gotta get out of the
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  Speaker 1: way so they don't hit me and I don't hit them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure when you're supposed to hit somebody. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go around the National Football League, shall we? Some headlines.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Heckert's passed away today, former Eagles and Browns general manager.
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  Speaker 1: He was fifty one years of age. He was with
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos last year. Stepped away after last season. Sad
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  Speaker 1: news today. Yeah, I think they're reported in a blood disorder.
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  Speaker 1: Uh just yeah. And he has some issues in his
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  Speaker 1: life at times too, I think in the past. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, fifty one way to up, I mean, especially days.
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  Speaker 1: But thank you for adding five years. It is sad.
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  Speaker 1: Though Hall of Fame talk Tarall Owens and Chattanooga called
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: it a flawed voting process, he said he wasn't mad
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  Speaker 1: about how many times it took him to get in.
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  Speaker 1: He said it's the mere fact that the sports writers
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  Speaker 1: are not in alignment with the mission and the core
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  Speaker 1: values of the Hall of Fame. What do you say, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say there's he has a lot of points
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  Speaker 1: about the Hall of Fame process. I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm angry at the entire process because I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've got that drum about Tony for for years, and
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  Speaker 1: he should be in. It's not fair when you have
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  Speaker 1: four offensive linemen in the finals and they all pick
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  Speaker 1: up part each other and it's like a dead car
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  Speaker 1: because in none of them make it. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: cannabalize each other. It's not right. The process isn't right.
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  Speaker 1: The process should be expanded. There's twenty two players on
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  Speaker 1: the field. There should be more guys going in. If
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  Speaker 1: one year deserves tend pretended, if one year deserves sick,
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  Speaker 1: put dick in. Don't have limitations on it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like the process. I don't think you should be going
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  Speaker 1: into a room trying to get convinced that you are
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  Speaker 1: convinced that your guy is a Hall of Famer. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't have the honor to be a voter, do
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  Speaker 1: the work, do the vote yourself, and you don't need
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  Speaker 1: somebody banging on your head to convince you otherwise. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the process. CEO made a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good points. Having said all that you should have been
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  Speaker 1: a cat. Should they be required to be in Canton?
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  Speaker 1: Hell no, that's you're you're going the exact opposite. You're
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: doing what he did. You're been petty. If they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to go, they want to go spend a day
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else, that's fine. But I thought that the Hall
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: of Fame handed a poorly. They should have said his name,
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  Speaker 1: they should have announced him and said he's not with
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  Speaker 1: us today, he's celebrating somewhere else. Period. Move on. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's still the Hall of Famer, but he should have
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  Speaker 1: been there. For the guys that are in the club,
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  Speaker 1: it's an the league club, it's an honor to be there.
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  Speaker 1: He should have been there. All right, do you have it? Quick?
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  Speaker 1: Look around the NFL. It's quick, it's quick. Running out
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  Speaker 1: of time on this happy all Hey, Pete, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to you next week. I know a certain guy that
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: would have been there. I he got in. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you that right now. You're on the other end of this.
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  Speaker 1: I would have been no doubt about that. Next year
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  Speaker 1: we will be there. Better you better. You've got some
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  Speaker 1: work to do. Pete, I know who's the right, who's
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  Speaker 1: the voter right, Jackieville. Now, by the way, Sam, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's still Sam. I don't think any change has
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  Speaker 1: been made, Okay, Pete Frisco, CBS Sports Senior writer Tony
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  Speaker 1: was Sally, Mike Perkins in the house, our whole crew.
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