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The New York Yankees FINALLY Have Their 1-2 Punch... W/ Barstool's Eric Hubbs · Yankees Pod

• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, we have a very, very special guest today.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: He's back, editor in chief of Barcel Sports.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: The pulse of the Yankees at Barcel Sports.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: Eric Hubs.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Hubs, how you doing today, man?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: What's happening, pal?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks again for coming on.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: The Yankees take two of three from the Pirates.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Max Freed comes back.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Five innings.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: Gives up just one hit.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a huge sigh of relief for us today.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I for free to be under the pitch count that he was and to give you five innings and look as good as he did, throwing hard uh just a breath of fresh air that we needed.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just nice to have him and Cole in the rotation finally after a year and a half.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: Took him long enough.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I mean, the rotation goes a much, a much needed level up with Freed back in the fold.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: If you, you know, and it gives you a glimpse into October of it's a pretty damn good rotation to throw out there of you know any order of Cam, Freed, and Cole.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: If Cole's gonna look as good as he has lately and you know, just getting sharper and sharper, if you like, with every start.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, it's it's it's one less thing you need to worry about when they have a lot of things to worry about.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the thing that I was happiest to see was that like they put up a graphic like halfway through the game, and it said that his velocity was sitting at 96 average, and those are the things you want to see.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Cole had a great game yesterday, too.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he gives up the three runs, but 11 strikeouts and seven innings is exactly what you want to see.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's also a good offense.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like the Pirates are they have the most they score the most runs in baseball.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's yeah, they're gonna get some runs on you.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: So it's uh just to see them shut down that lineup.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Weathers did a terrible job the other day, but um, for Cole and Fried to look as good as they did, it's it's not an easy lineup to navigate.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, right now the pitching looks good.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: It really does look good.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: The starters are coming into the fold, the bullpen really looks good right now.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: This offense has been atrocious, and we're gonna get into trade deadline talk.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: I I just have to say this though.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Boone has to sit Jazz Chisholm down.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's now four for seven, uh, four for 17 in these challenges.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, at what point?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I know that he's a player's manager, he's players coach and everything, but like what is going through Boone's head?
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I haven't heard him even talk about the Jazz situation, but four for 17, I think leave average is like 50%.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: He's like sitting at 25%, lower than 25% now.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: They make some dumb challenges, man.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um Wells, too, isn't the greatest with it.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: I actually like Ali Sanchez, I feel like has actually been pretty good behind the plate with the challenges, but um, yo, him and Rice, Jazz and Rice should not have the ability to challenge.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: They just they just have no eye for it.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_02: Jazz is one of those guys that was worried about going into the year with with the challenges, and it very much came to fruition.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: And Rice had a really bad one yesterday, too, that almost came out of frustration, it looked like uh yeah, those those guys should not be allowed to challenge, and uh I don't know that's gotta tighten up as we get closer to October.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and listen, uh again, like on Ben Rice stuff, like he hit he hits 30 home, he has 30 home runs now.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like it is what it is, but like and Jazz, I guess, had a pretty good week hitting those three home runs, but just it's just infuriating when the community just the communication just really seems off.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I feel like this team is just treading water, especially this offense, until Aaron Judge comes back.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a little brutal because we might not see Aaron Judge for six, seven weeks at this point.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's the scariest part.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, is the unknown with Judge, and you know, they're not gonna do another re-imaging for at least another week or week or two.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: So it makes it the deadline really hard to navigate of like what you need, and it came out today.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: They're looking for on top of the catcher and the and the two relievers, they're looking for a right-handed outfielder, which if I'm Jason Dominguez or Spencer Jones, that's kind of writing on the wall that they're looking to replace you and get a more stable bat out there.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and those guys could easily be used in the trade in the next 10 days.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, I the the offense, as I've said, is it's they've got three hitters you can rely on, and it's kind of two and a half because Cody's really falling off here in terms of his back quality and just no control of the strike zone all of a sudden from a guy who you could almost count on for that.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a little concerning.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, I mean, besides that, it's just Ben Rice and Grisham.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: And after that, I don't know who you're getting.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: And it could be Jazz, but it's not consistent jazz.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_02: Jazz has been very inconsistent all year, and as I mentioned, Dominguez and Jones can have nice games, but far from consistent on their end as well.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, McMahon has actually been a decent bat, but that's not a guy you're gonna lean on in October.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: And uh the catching situation has been atrocious, and Caballero is kind of taking a step back here, and Volpe's Volpe.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: So you got three hitters, and that doesn't cut it.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, hopefully they're able to get a real hitting catcher here at the deadline, and maybe whatever I don't know what kind of right-handed bat they're looking at in the outfield, but um, yeah, man, the offense is a is a struggle here.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's painful.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like they gotta their margin for error with this offense is so small.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: They cannot afford any mistakes.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's like unfair to Cole.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: And they do end up tying the game, but um, you know, he gives up the solo, though, those home runs every now and then they they kill you, and it and they shouldn't because the offense should be way better than this.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: But they have to play perfect baseball, which is what they had to do last night with Freed giving you five shutout, and then Blackburn coming in there and Shavili and your you know, Will Ward in the ninth, Tim Hill, whatever.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: But like you know, you they played a good game.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: You only went 2-0 because that's all the offense can give you.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_02: You know, every now, every you know, it's just it's a grind.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: And we're only in it's it's it's July 23rd.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's like we gotta deal with at least six more weeks of this, at least, and it could be longer.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, they gotta they gotta make moves to the deadline, they gotta be aggressive.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: I want Lombard up here if he's not being traded.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I I need him here in two weeks, and I think he deserves the spot at this point, based on Caballero and Volpe not running away with shortstop at all here.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: So um they gotta get aggressive.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: They gotta yeah, uh, well, Volpe just bought himself about three weeks with that hit yesterday.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and speaking of uncertain, Giancarlo Stanton, man, we hear two days ago or yesterday, whatever it was, Brian Hope tweets out that Jan Carlos Stanton isn't close to returning.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: Then we hear on Talking Yanks that Aaron Boone says that he's actually doing pretty well and should be back in a reasonable amount of time.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: It gets confusing because I mean, if you have Aaron Judge and you have J.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Carlos Stanton in the lineup, it's a completely different team.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: But how do you rely on these guys coming back when with this uncertainty and how aggressive do the Yankees?
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like the Yankees need to be really aggressive here.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean you can't.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_02: I I think I said the last time you came on your show, but like you've got to treat Giancarlo as a as a coach at this point.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's no like and it's classic Yankees where we we no one has their story straight about you know an injury.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I you can't rely on like while he was rehabbing his calf injury, which if you look back at the video that actually started this, it's crazy that it's taken this much time.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: He he's not running hard at all when he injures his calf.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: And then while he's rehabbing this, he hurt another part of his calf or a different part, a different or the other calf.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't even know what the actual story was.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: They just said that there was a another injury on top of this that's causing the be out so long.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, how can you rely on that?
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: So for me, it's like with the deadline, a DH slash first baseman should be in the cards here.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I that's not easy to go.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, a DH in theory is easy to go get because it could be any hitter, but um, you know, in terms of like putting the best team out there, Rice being your DH probably and an actual first baseman at first, like a rise or something like that, would be nice.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and granted a rise isn't, you know, he's been playing second all year and exceptionally well second.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: He's not the greatest first baseman, but it's just like they I don't assuming Stanton comes back and is gonna be Stanton is so reckless to me, and it's like such a gamble with this season.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a mistake.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it just seems like I mean, again, we're just we really are just treading water, waiting.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, nothing's gonna be exciting this next six weeks, like, unless we do go out and get a big bat.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: I saw you wrote an article like three or four days ago, maybe a week ago, about Raphael Devers.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: What did you write it on a whim?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: You saw company.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I also wrote it and I I highlighted desperation was behind the article, but it's like the Yankees of the old, like the the deterrent with Devers, there's a few, um, but obviously it's the it's the bloated contract, and we seven more years after this year, and it's 28 million per, which actually AAV-wise isn't the worst in the world, especially for the next few years of that deal.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the last four years or or so will be probably pretty brutal, especially for a full-time DH.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: But in terms of sticking it to Boston, and also just like a a trade that wouldn't require prospects really of much value, it would be more of a salary dump.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's a trade the Yankees with their buying power should be all over.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Now they won't be because they're just not the same Yankees.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's House, House Yankees.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_02: But George's Yankees, Devers would be a Yankee, in my mind.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: I I really think so.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: And the beauty of, you know, you worry about is clubhouse toxic toxicity.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, the one of the best things about Judge is the way that they can kind of embrace all types of mindsets and mentalities and cancers, if you will, um, and and just kind of, you know, we just all row the same ship, and every, you know, Boone kind of lets everything, you know, he he he's a player first manager, if that's the his best part, best aspect, I guess.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I really I I think it would be a 10 out of 10 move, but it's it's not gonna happen.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: I I I I was just saying, I was just kind of wishful thinking, but no.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: The the only stuff I hear is they're talking the good they're they want Goodman and they're I think they're gonna end up with Goodman.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um they're they're they're they're talking names with Goodman.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: So that's good.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Goodman has what 31 home runs this year, so that would be that would be nice.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I was I'm kind of right there with you on the Devers thing.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think I said it on Sunday night.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: I was at the game and I literally had the same thought as you.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: So we're we're on the same page, right?
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine Raphael Devers at Yankee Stadium?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: He'd pop up the he'd have he'd have 30 home runs in a month.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like literally he's that to have a two, three, four in the playoffs of Rice, Judge, and Devers, and then that's where everything, and then Bellinger and Trent, and it's like all of a sudden you got a lineup, you know?
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: See if Lombard's there, and um, and then you know, hey Jazz, you want to be a player tonight?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, all of a sudden it's like, damn, that's pretty good.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: But it it doesn't feel the same when it's just Rice and Judge.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then if you get Bellinger, like now, maybe a Hunter Goodman thrown in there as your five-hitter or whatever, you know, then it does, but man, a two-three-four of Rice, Rice, Judge, and Deavers is that's that's what I want.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and you know what?
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's unfortunate that next year is probably gonna be a lockout at in some fashion.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, maybe we'll have baseball next July or whatever, but we'll have probably have a couple months without baseball there.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then they're talking about, you know, um the contract negotiations of how high and low the salary cap will be, if we are gonna get a salary cap.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's why all these teams aren't really buying into the situation because let's say that they say, like, oh, you know, the cap is 275, and we just bought Devers for$28 million a year.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of, I don't know.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: I it's gonna, it's gonna be bad.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: It really is gonna be bad.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: And but the problem is right now, you got Garrett Cole who's who's getting older, you got Aaron Judge who's getting older.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: You kind of have to be all in at this point.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it's unfortunate to see because this is not like the Yankees are a good baseball team in terms of baseball teams because not a lot of teams go for it.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: There's like five or there's like maybe seven good baseball teams in the major leagues, but you really do need to take that next step.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: We saw what it's like to play the Dodgers, they're a really good baseball team.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, like the Brewers and the Braves.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: There are a couple teams that are just, you know, just better than the Yankees.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't see why the Yankees can't beat these teams with Aaron Judge, but you do.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta go out, you gotta get a catcher, you gotta make a move for a Ryzer Devers.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's no reason that Spencer Jones or Jason Dominguez should be on this team at this point, in my in my opinion.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they might be good baseball players eventually, but I I think we got to use our pieces.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: And basically, I think everybody's on the table besides George Lombarn Jr.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: at this point.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think the one guy who would hurt they're not trading George.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um the the one the one guy that's gonna hurt is Legranje, because obviously you saw his his his progression in the minors and and and becoming and they were, you know, he I think without an injury, he's up here.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like I uh the time that he was pushing towards you know high leverage, short, short innings down there.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: They were having him ready to come up, and it sucks with a shoulder thing.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I wonder what that even means for his trade value if people are just gonna be shying away from it.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_02: But in terms of um how aggressive they should be, like the air Aaron Judge really hides a ton of flaws, and they've and he's hid a ton of flaws with them for a long time.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: And you can talk about his playoff success and and lack thereof, sure.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: But the reason the Yankees always make the playoffs and sometimes win the division is because of Aaron Judge, and we're seeing right now what happens when you take that guy off.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: So to not go all in right now with Cole, Cole's age, and you know, he he's getting better and better here, and but you know, how much how many more years of that do we have?
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and guys, as they get older, more injuries happen.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um so to take for granted what you have with Judge and Cole right now would be such a mistake in my mind because life after those guys is gonna get really bleak, and you're three to four years away from that.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: So go nuts now, and with the how weak the AL is, and you know you have your weaknesses in your address them.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: Go hard and actually address them.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do this half-measure stuff that we've seen for years.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: Go out and actually fix your problems and take this on, and you can go out, you can come out of the American League again, and you're probably gonna play the Dodgers, and we'll see how it, but you have better pitching this time around.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: So who knows, man?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like they like, yes, they lost that series to the Dodgers um last week, but they pitched really well in that series, and that was a good sign for me.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I Garrett Cole was really good in that game, and yeah, Boone left him in for one batter too long, and I actually was okay with it because I I I think Cole was pitching well enough to to get one more batter there, even if there were lefty's coming up.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: But and then when they win on Sunday night, like they there was one bad game in there.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, it was the first the first part of the double header, but they pitched pretty well in that series.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I that that to me is a good sign, but you need to address your problems, and that is the offensive side of the ball.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: And sure, they Mason Miller maybe, who knows?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: But I need Hunter Goodman and I need another bat on top of that.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I I just don't know how aggressive they're gonna be for that second bat, and I fear that is gonna be the make or break move of the deadline for them.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was just gonna ask you about Mason Miller.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: I see you tweeting your back and forth on him.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what are your thoughts on right now?
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the bullpen's doing pretty well, but yeah, like I mean, it is the offense.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's it we gotta fix the offense.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: The the bullpen's doing really well, and guys have come on that I really like, like Travili, and you know, we'll see when Yovanny Cruz gets up here, and even Kervin Castro, that was kind of like, oh, okay.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, those were those were two really impressive strikeouts there.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh Hedrick's been great, and Blackburn and Bednar has really turned a corner in the last two months here and shaken off whatever the start was, and Fernando Cruz might be you know regressing a little bit, but overall the Bullpin's in a really good spot.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: But the old Yankees used to you you you have your strength and you make it even stronger.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: If like if the market isn't there for that second hitter or whatever, and they don't they don't want to do a Devers type deal, and Mason Miller is available.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: If Mason Miller is available and you have three years of control of him, and Benor is a free agent at the end of the year, then maybe that is an advantageous thing, and they like trading with Preller, and Prellor is like trading with us.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_02: So, man, it'd be really cool to have Mason Miller, I'll say that.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: And things would become a lot easier.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: The thing is, though, you need to have a lead for Mason Miller to matter.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: So you really need offense on top of that.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, just going to get it, listen, it'd be tough to come away with a Mason Miller, Hunter Goodman deadline and be upset or disappointed.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I kind of would be because you really need more offense.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I think we're seeing it.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: And especially if Judge is gonna be out six more weeks, whatever the hell it's gonna be.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: Are you gonna win the division without Aaron Judge?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if he only added Hunter Goodman, is that enough to win the division?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: And in my mind, they must win the division.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: These Aaron Boone Yankees, they need to be at home and they have to have that bye.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: And you you saw last year what happened in that Toronto Blue Jay series, where they had to use three guys early in that Red Sox series, obviously, to even get to Toronto.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: And when you got to Toronto, your rotation was all out of whack.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, like they they were they were a step behind before that series even started.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: You have to win the division, you have to get that by.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: And can you do that without Aaron Judge if you're just adding a Hunter Goodman?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's my fear.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's fair.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: The thing that I struggle with with Mason Miller, because the bullpen's doing really well, is just his control.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's not a free agent to look at it.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's great.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: So, like your closure's locked up for three years and he's the best closer by far.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: So, bar and an injury, you have just an absolute weapon that you haven't felt like you've had.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: Now, Bad Nord's been great.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I I'm such a David Bennett.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_02: I would love for them to bring him back, even if they got a Mason Miller.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he'd want to come back to not be a closer, but Miller would bring you a different feel in the ninth inning that you haven't had since Mario Rivera.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, you know, no, a hundred percent.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's tough.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: It really is tough because, you know, like you said, with Le Grande going down, we don't really have that many pieces.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if they do want to go all in, you kind of got to trade George Lombard Jr., but we don't really have a show.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you might not.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: You might not.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Le Grande might be enough, like, to headline a package to San Diego like that.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: I hope so.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I I I would think that Will Warren would be gone in that case.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, that's perfectly fine.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: And the Padgers are probably trying to get uh are try, probably trying to uh trade Mason Miller because what we saw with the Ju Soto deal, too, like they got a couple guys um that they could put into the starting rotation, then they made the postseason the next year.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I I'm I'm hoping, honestly, I'm hoping.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think Mason Miller and Goodman would be great because I don't care if Aaron Judge's rib is like completely broken.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's coming back in September.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: He's gonna play through it.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just don't see it.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good it's a good point, even if he's not 100% what's this what's the harm?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so let's say you need a whole off-season rehab, you know, and and as we've alluded to, I don't think they're playing baseball next uh next April.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I think you're gonna have a lot more time to rehab that.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: So you're right, like he I kind of haven't thought of it that way, but like, yeah, like he's got in some capacity, he's coming back.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: This isn't a torn ACL where he can't physically walk.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's gonna end up being a pain tolerance thing for him.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, it won't be.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, it will just be 100% healed and we'll get him back in, let's say, early September.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: I it maybe even earlier.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Who the hell knows?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: But when Bush comes to shove in October, he's going to try to play.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: He's going to play through this.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: Will he be compromised?
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's the that's kind of the predicament we're gonna be in.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: But I don't know if they can win the division without him.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's just my worry.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I really, really need to win the division.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're two and a half games back right now.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, it it's just it's it's hard because and even like these like there's a lot of you know, Yankees.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yankees Twitter is just full of there's a lot of young uh guys with podcasts that are kind of just they're they're just happy.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: It just seems like I don't know, I'm I'm 36 years old, and I'm just like, you gotta win the division, you gotta win the world series.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's just kind of like I feel like we're both in the same tree there.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you don't win the world series, it's a bad year.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like it's kind of with like we we have these young creators who haven't seen really a world series in their adult lives that are okay with being good.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, that's kind of the thing that I'm I don't exactly know who you're talking about, but uh, and I'm glad I don't because uh that would annoy me.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: So I I whatever timeline I have in my Twitter timeline, I avoid those people, thank god.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's just it's frustrating because like I try to be a little bit more chill when it comes to the team.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I you know, I'm not I'm not going 110 in July anymore.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Just wait for October.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: If I want to scream, if I want to go frame the tank on everyone in October, perfectly fine.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: But like it just gets boring to just scream all the time at this team.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: But like, yeah, if if you don't win the division, you gotta fire the manager.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost as simple as that at this point.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and they're gonna make excuses that Aaron Judge wasn't in the lineup and Jan Carlos Stanton wasn't there, but like it almost is time for a change if they if they don't win the division.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um Red Sox in 2022, or whenever that year was.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever the one.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever the wild card game was where Cole got rocked, that was maybe 21.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh whenever that game was, that was the time to really make the change.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean, we're four to five years past due.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: So but I uh but also part of me is you're alluding to your age, me as well.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I've learned to like accept that he's just not gonna get fired, so it's kind of not worth your energy to do it.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly, exactly.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like last year, the year before that, the year before that.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: And Cashman's the bigger problem, anyways, like he really is.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: So who is Cashman?
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know, but like Cashman and and and how uh and and the Steinbrenners are basically cousins at this point, like you know, like Brian Cashman is gonna be here forever, and I he is and Aaron Boone is his security blanket, so just talking about Aaron Boone is kind of just beating a dead horse at this point.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: We we need baseball players that can hit the baseball, and if we get baseball players that can hit the baseball, maybe we can win a uh plan.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds a good plan.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Hobbs, thank you so much for coming on.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um are we gonna win the division?
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Are we gonna win the division this year?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think we do.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: I guess it's because of the pitching, because Freed's coming back.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I think they lean on pitching and it's gonna take and it'll I trust that George Lombard is an upgrade from Caballero and Volpe.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna pencil that in as a as a trade in my mind uh for a bat and hope that that works.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then I think they're gonna get Goodman and we'll see Mason Miller.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I I want to believe that they they do win the division.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, you answered all my questions through my other questions, so great time with Hubs as always.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll get you back in a couple months once we start really gearing up for the play the postseason.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: But I really appreciate you coming on.
• 25:04
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• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: He does everything at Parcel Sports.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're not following him, go follow him.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Hubs, thanks again.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: Appreciate Jimmy.