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#1690 Life After Elite Sport - Bianca Chatfield · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I get our team. Welcome to another installment the show.
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  Speaker 1: Tiffany and Cook, Bi Anka, Jane and Mary Veronica Chatfield.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start with Cook, who's still just clinging to the
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  Speaker 1: remnants of India. Just I just detected a little chink
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  Speaker 1: in the nirvana, the kind of the glow. But it's
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  Speaker 1: because she's been for an early morning motorbike ride and
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  Speaker 1: she's freezing.
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  Speaker 2: And Altip wouldn't have done that, would she Oltif wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have got up and started the day with a bit
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  Speaker 2: of I don't know, exciting like.
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  Speaker 1: That, no early morning meditation out on I read somebody,
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  Speaker 1: you know when you your algorithm sends you shit. This
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  Speaker 1: My algorithm sent me I get the intersection of bodybuilding
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  Speaker 1: and motorbikes and philosophy and spirituality, and I ended up
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  Speaker 1: with this.
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  Speaker 3: Thing on by the way high Chatters, Good morning, Hi.
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  Speaker 4: How are you keep going? I'm interested you well.
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  Speaker 1: It sent me this video of this professor to talking
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  Speaker 1: about the physiological, emotional, and psychological and spiritual benefits of
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  Speaker 1: motorbike riding, all these great things that does for you,
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, do you know what? While I personally
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  Speaker 1: I love this, but I can tell you with absolute
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  Speaker 1: certainty that for some people being on a motorbike produces
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  Speaker 1: the opposite effect. I think it depends not on the motorbike,
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  Speaker 1: but one's relationship with motorbike riding.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever been on a bike? Chatters?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been on with you.
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  Speaker 5: That's the only time I reckon I've been on one?
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  Speaker 5: Was that years ago?
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  Speaker 3: Was that fucking terrifying? Or how was it?
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  Speaker 4: I just remember you were very safety conscious. You were
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  Speaker 4: Are you sure all the gear was on?
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  Speaker 5: And You're like, you want to hang on and don't
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  Speaker 5: do this and don't do that, and I'm like, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think at the time I was. I was
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  Speaker 1: riding with the captain of the Melbourne Vixens and an
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  Speaker 1: Australian netball team member, so I probably I thought I've
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  Speaker 1: got a reasonably valuable commodity. That's what you are, a
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  Speaker 1: commodity on board or I don't know, human on board,
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  Speaker 1: and so I was probably a little bit more conscientious
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  Speaker 1: than normal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, motorbike riding is not really my thing,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm happy to have a go. It was all right,
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  Speaker 5: It's certainly not in my algorithm, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Tip, what's going on? Over there.
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  Speaker 1: You look like you've got a cat doing catastrophic things.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, because I didn't shut the cupboard door. Probably want
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  Speaker 2: to put my motorbike jack away. And now guess who's
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  Speaker 2: jumping all over the clothes and dragging everything out of
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  Speaker 2: the cupboard.
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  Speaker 3: Well, do you want to turn your mic coffin? Go
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  Speaker 3: and attend to that, and I'll talk to chatters. Thank you,
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  Speaker 3: I will do that, all right, You go and do that. Bianca?
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  Speaker 3: What's news? How are you?
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  Speaker 5: Do?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I just life has been crazy the
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  Speaker 5: last couple of years, becoming a mom. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: even think I've been on here since I've.
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  Speaker 4: Had my daughter.
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  Speaker 3: How old is she now?
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  Speaker 4: So she's two and a half?
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  Speaker 3: Wow?
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, I feel like I just well, we all
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  Speaker 5: just bunk it down, as I'm sure many.
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  Speaker 4: Other parents relate.
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  Speaker 5: Just bunk it down and you can get done and
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  Speaker 5: the rest of the time you enjoyed just hanging around
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  Speaker 5: the house and finding, you know, finding the little things,
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  Speaker 5: because they certainly do, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, your background is pretty diverse, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: elite athlete playing for Australia World Cup comm Games gold
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  Speaker 1: medalers captaining arguably the best team in the world, as
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  Speaker 1: in the Melbourne Vixen's club team in the world. For
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  Speaker 1: quite a long time, you were a school teacher who
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  Speaker 1: actually who actually did the training and then went and taught,
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  Speaker 1: unlike many teachers who do teaching and then go and
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  Speaker 1: work in a bar, you know. And you were a
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  Speaker 1: business owner for quite a while. I think you had
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  Speaker 1: a f forty five or two. You're a TV presenter.
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  Speaker 1: You were the host of the Woman's Footy show.
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  Speaker 3: You like you call the Netty.
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  Speaker 1: You do a lot of corporate speaking, you do educational stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you work. What kind of determines what you put your
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  Speaker 1: energy into and what has your attention.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good question. I don't think I
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  Speaker 5: was ever very good at managing it. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 5: known me for a long time. Like I used to
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  Speaker 5: just do everything, say yes to everything. And I think
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  Speaker 5: there's definitely a time and a place where that's a
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  Speaker 5: benefit to do that. And as I've gotten a bit
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  Speaker 5: older and a bit smarter and a bit probably more
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  Speaker 5: understanding of who I am really and what I feel
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  Speaker 5: passionate about, what really drives me and what you know,
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  Speaker 5: fills my cup like a big one on just energy
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  Speaker 5: and just making sure what you're doing is actually giving
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  Speaker 5: you energy and not draining it from you. And so
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  Speaker 5: I think, especially the last couple of years, like my
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  Speaker 5: boundaries have got so much stronger in saying no to
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  Speaker 5: things that I don't think will you know, be of
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  Speaker 5: good use to me or something that I'll enjoy doing.
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  Speaker 5: But I very much find myself now in the place
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  Speaker 5: of working still in the leadership space, working with people
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  Speaker 5: because I love that and that you know, does obviously
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  Speaker 5: tie into the education piece as well from my past,
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  Speaker 5: and then also on the other side of it being
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  Speaker 5: in the media hosting. I work with Fox Sports, so
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  Speaker 5: Fox Netball, I'm doing a bit of Fox Cricket this summer.
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  Speaker 5: That stuff really fills my cup too, because I love
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  Speaker 5: the adrenaline rush that you get of live TV. And
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  Speaker 5: it's like being an athlete. It's sink or swim if
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  Speaker 5: you do your prep and you make sure you know
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  Speaker 5: as much as you can, like when you're on air,
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  Speaker 5: if something stuffs up, then you just got to be
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  Speaker 5: able to you know, figure it out. And I love
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  Speaker 5: that feeling it really. Yeah, it's probably more of an
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  Speaker 5: adrenaline junkie trying to chase that feeling. But that's what
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  Speaker 5: I love about doing live TV. And there's just, you know,
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  Speaker 5: plenty of room for people to give your feedback if
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  Speaker 5: they were on the which you can open or not whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But it's just I like being able to kind of
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  Speaker 5: spend my time in both of those worlds from a
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  Speaker 5: work capacity, and I like having that balance. And I
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  Speaker 5: always used to think it was actually balance is the
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  Speaker 5: wrong work because it's never balanced. But I used to
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  Speaker 5: think I had to have one not title, but just
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  Speaker 5: I would myself. And listening to that bio, I get
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  Speaker 5: I'm like overwhelmed and exhausted because I'm like, sure, I've
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  Speaker 5: done a lot of things, but what I just want
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  Speaker 5: to put your hand on one thing that you can
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  Speaker 5: do one thing, And I'm like, no, I don't want
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  Speaker 5: to ever have to narrow myself down.
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  Speaker 4: I love being able to do lots of different things.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like with somebody like you, who when you're young,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're a really good athlete and your idea
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  Speaker 1: is a good athlete. So there's always going to be
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  Speaker 1: people clamoring for you to be involved with them. And
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  Speaker 1: then off the back of being a good athlete, comes
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  Speaker 1: other opportunities, and like you said, you just say yes
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of stuff because it's all new and
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  Speaker 1: exciting and you're building relationships and new doors are opening
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, fuck, I'll give that a go.
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  Speaker 3: But then you and I was a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit like that when I opened my gyms and started
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  Speaker 1: doing radio stuff and writing for different outlets, and new
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  Speaker 1: things arise and you just kind of say yes a lot.
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  Speaker 3: But I feel like when you get.
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  Speaker 1: Older, not that you're old, but you're in your forties,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, fucking spring chicken, let's be honest, you
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  Speaker 1: know your middle age, let's be honest. Not But I
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  Speaker 1: think we can become a lot more intentional with our living,
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  Speaker 1: like living consciously and proactively rather than unconsciously and reactively,
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  Speaker 1: where we start to almost design our life other than
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  Speaker 1: just say yes or no toe stuff that just comes along.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I totally agree with that.
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  Speaker 5: And it's and I don't know if that coincided with
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  Speaker 5: me becoming a mum as well and having this whole
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  Speaker 5: emotional layout to what it is to leave the house
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  Speaker 5: or to not be around for her, the intention of
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  Speaker 5: taking on things that mean I leave the house, like
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  Speaker 5: you have to really want to do it, because you
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  Speaker 5: know what it does for everybody else who is, whether
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  Speaker 5: it's you know, Mark, my partner, he's at home, you know,
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  Speaker 5: if I'm traveling into state, and so much of my
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  Speaker 5: work ends up being into state, which I do love,
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  Speaker 5: but that also, you know, adds the extra pressure at
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  Speaker 5: home to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm fortunate that we've been able to make that
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  Speaker 4: all work.
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  Speaker 5: But I certainly, yeah, I think becoming a mum, the
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  Speaker 5: boundaries have had to become a lot stronger.
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  Speaker 4: And also, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 5: Don't want to let this little girl down when you're
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  Speaker 5: not around, if you're doing something that's not actually you know,
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  Speaker 5: for the for the best.
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  Speaker 4: Of both of us and all of us, and for
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  Speaker 4: me as well.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine that as soon as you become a parent,
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  Speaker 1: that you're looking at the world through a different lens,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, and so everything is different just by
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  Speaker 1: virtue of now there's three not two, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: versus even being in a relationship with Mark, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's two, not one, but now there's three, and so
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  Speaker 1: it's not like you even need to try to be
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  Speaker 1: different or try to think differently. That's an automatic byproduct
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  Speaker 1: of what is now your new reality, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean so much of the work that I've
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  Speaker 5: done in the past, whether it's you know, leadership speaking,
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  Speaker 5: working in businesses, working with moms, I just have this
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  Speaker 5: kind of part of me that I'm like, oh, I
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  Speaker 5: never really understood what they were going through as much
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  Speaker 5: as I would say, this is how you get the
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  Speaker 5: best out of yourself, you know, if you get up
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  Speaker 5: in the morning and you've got.
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  Speaker 4: A good routine and blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 5: I used to think that was so important, and I
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  Speaker 5: know it is and it certainly has a place, but
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  Speaker 5: just this is on stuff like that that I realized.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I'm a mum of one child,
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  Speaker 5: let alone moms and parents multiple children sometimes not possible.
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  Speaker 5: It's absolutely okay that it can be impossible to be
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  Speaker 5: able to get up and set your day up in
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  Speaker 5: that way because these little people need you and wake
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  Speaker 5: you up at whenever they feel like waking you up,
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  Speaker 5: and who knows what the night before has been like,
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  Speaker 5: And so that just adds a whole nother layer of complexity,
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  Speaker 5: I think, to people's lives. And yeah, I felt for
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  Speaker 5: a while I was like Oh, I never really got it,
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  Speaker 5: and now I get it that little bit more too.
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  Speaker 5: When I'm out speaking to a lot of mums, especially mums,
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  Speaker 5: working mums, you know, because it's tough to be able
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  Speaker 5: to do all of that.
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  Speaker 1: It just dawned on me the differences but also the
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  Speaker 1: similarities between you and Tif. You're both forty two. She's
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  Speaker 1: an athlete, she's a boxer. She's a short blonde who
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  Speaker 1: punches people in the face. You're a tall brunette who
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  Speaker 1: used to stop women from shooting goals for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: I think, like, what's interesting about you two both is
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  Speaker 1: that both of you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't spent a lot of time with you over
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  Speaker 1: the last few years, but so I'm not sure. But
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  Speaker 1: definitely with Tiff for a long time, but she's softening.
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  Speaker 1: There was Tiff was like simultaneously wearing a baseball cap
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  Speaker 1: that said fuck off and a T shirt that said
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  Speaker 1: give us a hug. Though, right, so there was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit come here, fuck off, and you had a
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  Speaker 1: bit of that, like when when you were a young athlete,
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  Speaker 1: you were a motherfucker on the court, you were a
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  Speaker 1: sweetheart off it, but you're a complete bitch on it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be honest, right, you weren't the friendliest or the warmest.
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  Speaker 1: You were highly competitive. But I feel like both of
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  Speaker 1: you have softened. Am I right or no?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? Definitely for me, and I think the minute.
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  Speaker 5: I walked off the court as an athlete, I definitely
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  Speaker 5: started to soften and lose that competitiveness where I really
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  Speaker 5: wanted to do anything to win and I'd take down
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  Speaker 5: anyone that was in my way, like I was very
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  Speaker 5: much driven like that, and I mean, it's exhausting, but
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  Speaker 5: I definitely the minute I walked off the court, and
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  Speaker 5: I've never stepped back on the court, not even socially,
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  Speaker 5: because I almost know how dangerous that will be for me,
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  Speaker 5: for like physically and injuries, but also mentally. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I just don't want to put myself in that position
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  Speaker 5: because I know that I'll probably hurt somebody if I
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  Speaker 5: went out there on court and tried to play like
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  Speaker 5: I used to and tif I wonder if that would
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  Speaker 5: be the same for you whenever. I guess boxing is
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  Speaker 5: something that can be always in your life, but I
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  Speaker 5: wonder how you'll feel once you kind of stop that
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  Speaker 5: competitiveness of it all.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's I'm going through an interesting time at the moment,
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  Speaker 2: and a big part of I just had a trip
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  Speaker 2: to India which brought about a massive shift for me,
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  Speaker 2: and part of that before I went away was wanting
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  Speaker 2: to step away from the identity of TIF the boxer,
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  Speaker 2: TIF the trainer, Tiff the athlete, TIF the yeah that
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  Speaker 2: I felt that one little part of me became all
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  Speaker 2: of the parts of me, and all the other parts
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  Speaker 2: got put in a box. So I'm just seeing how
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  Speaker 2: it all fits together at the moment. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: which assumed in.
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  Speaker 5: A way, though, I think compartmentalizing things that was a
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  Speaker 5: way that I often would cope is knowing that I
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  Speaker 5: could put that away in the box and not worry
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  Speaker 5: about it for a little while, and then come back
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  Speaker 5: to it when I felt like I had the right
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  Speaker 5: amount of energy or whatever to go back there. But certainly,
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  Speaker 5: when I had my athlete hat on, I would ignore
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  Speaker 5: everything else because I'm like, you know, this is so
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  Speaker 5: important to me. I need to do what everything it
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  Speaker 5: takes to be good at this, and I could quite
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  Speaker 5: often switch off a lot of things that probably were
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  Speaker 5: more important than I needed to focus on. But I
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  Speaker 5: think that's how you cope in sport and as athletes,
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  Speaker 5: I think that you kind of have to have a
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  Speaker 5: level of that.
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  Speaker 2: I found that A huge positive to that when I
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  Speaker 2: needed it was seeing how it shifted me in my life.
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  Speaker 2: So I spent all this time in training in the
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  Speaker 2: gym and boxing ring thinking that I was just doing that,
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  Speaker 2: and then after a few years I looked back and went, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that actually changed tiff Cook outside the ring. That changed
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  Speaker 2: how I am in as an employee, as a business person,
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  Speaker 2: as a friend. It changed everything. But I guess that's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm getting at now, is going well, it's there's
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  Speaker 2: a part of that that needs to be left behind.
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  Speaker 2: So do I still need that sport or should I
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  Speaker 2: Do I need.
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  Speaker 4: To shift that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it exists, whether you think it's happening or not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the way. I love the way Bianca.
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  Speaker 1: You just started hosting the show, then, No, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love I'm like, oh, here's the TV presenter, so TIF,
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  Speaker 1: so TIF for you.
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  Speaker 3: No, I fucking love it.
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  Speaker 4: You just step aside, Craig.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, feel free to both of you. Feel free to
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  Speaker 1: ask questions and take the reins at any time.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you. Bee how do you.
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  Speaker 1: So, now it's forty two, been a mum, being a
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  Speaker 1: business woman, being a bunch of different things, what do
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  Speaker 1: you decide, like right now and moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: To do and.
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  Speaker 1: Also to not do, like what needs to go on
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  Speaker 1: the later list, what needs to get put on the shelf,
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  Speaker 1: because we know we can't do you know, I'm I
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  Speaker 1: figure this out with my PhD and my business and
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  Speaker 1: my podcast and trying to stay in shape. And I
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  Speaker 1: can't do sixty four things. Well, so I need to
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  Speaker 1: do four or five things. And I get lots of
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  Speaker 1: other opportunities, as do both of you, and I even
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  Speaker 1: great opportunities. I've got to say no because I can't
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  Speaker 1: fit anything else in. So what's your criteria for figuring
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  Speaker 1: out where you invest your time and energy?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean it simply comes to you know. So
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  Speaker 5: during I'm contracted with Fox Sports, so that is obviously
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  Speaker 5: a priority. When the when busy in whether it's netball
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  Speaker 5: season and so that's free example, I know that from
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  Speaker 5: the end of March through till generally the end of August,
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  Speaker 5: I will be traveling most weekends or I'll have games
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  Speaker 5: on most weekends and maybe some things during the week
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  Speaker 5: and that's like an intense kind of period of time
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  Speaker 5: for me and then obviously my family. And so basically
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  Speaker 5: I just make sure that whatever I take on during
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  Speaker 5: that time fits within my week where it's not going
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  Speaker 5: to obviously disrupt what I'm doing for network, but also
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  Speaker 5: that I've got the energy to do it, because it's
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  Speaker 5: quite exhausting being up and about in the commentary and
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  Speaker 5: all of that. You know, it takes a lot out
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  Speaker 5: of you, and I've got to make sure that I
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  Speaker 5: have on a Monday morning some time to kind of
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  Speaker 5: to myself, to recover and to just you know, walk around,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: go to the park whatever we're doing.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: So I try and only take on.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: One other thing in a week of work when I'm
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: in netball season, and once I'm out of that netball
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: season again, I'll wagh it up and see what projects
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: are have in front of me, and if it might
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: be a big chunk of leadership work that I'll do
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: with a client, then I will kind of set that
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: asign and say I'm only available to do that in September.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: And it becomes a bit cutthroat, and it's just you've
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: got to take me or leave me like I can
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: In that time, so.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: I just can't do it rather than trying to, you know,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: force and pressure on everybody else to make sure that
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: I can do it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: So don't.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: I don't have the clear equation of how it works
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: perfectly because I don't think it ever does. But Mark,
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: my partner, is so organized, like far more organized than me,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: and he is constantly me about diary and schedule on
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: time and what are we doing, and he obviously works
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: as well. So I'm just very fortunate that I have
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: a partner like him who drives me crazy with his organization.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: But on the flip side, make sure that we can
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: fit in everything that we can do and if there's
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: something that I really love and that I you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: when I got a call about doing some Fox cricket stuff,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I was like, yes, like I want to do it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: I love working in other sports and so that was
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: kind of because it really me. I was like, well,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I have to try and make time for this, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: fortunately it's over summer where there is some time.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: So do you do you have like last night I did.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I'm running a mentoring group at the moment, which is
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: just a bunch of people online on a Monday night
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: for two hours, right, and it starts at seven, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: literally it four minutes past seven. I'm downstairs in the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: four minutes two seven, I'm downstairs getting a cup of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: tea and bare feet and shorts and a black T shirt,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: fucking around. And then I sit down and like, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: know what I'm going to talk to them about. But
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it is, you know, like talking to you and tiar
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: f right now, seventeen hundred and eighty odd episodes in
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: it's it's just like completely comfortable. It's like completely it's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: my natural habitat. There's no stress, there's no anxiety, there's
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: no fear. It's just a thing that I'm doing in
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the moment. But then there are other things, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: like last week I did two talks face to face
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: live talks Tuesday Wednesday, seven hundred people each talk, where
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: it's a bit different and I don't stress about it,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: but there's a different kind of getting ready process, getting
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: ready practically, mentally, emotionally, when you've got to do stuff
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: like Telly where you can't do it again because it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: live and it's in the moment. Do you have like rituals,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Do you have a certain prep that you've got to
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: go through. I don't mean in terms of research beforehand,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: but on the day for you to fucking so the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: cameras camera's on, you're live, you're standing with a mic
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: by the side of the court. How do you get
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: yourself in that optimal state?
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Hmm, well, you know, I actually think it's very similar
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: to what I would do as an athlete like I
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: as long as I've done my prep and I can
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: park that, generally, I'll do that the night before, even
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: if that means staying up however late I need to
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: stay up to get it done. I'd just like to
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: be able to on game day if be able to
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: get into the courts or wherever. And obviously we're in
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: hair make up for an hour because this face doesn't
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: look like this on TV and all this hair.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: So you're in the hair and makeup for an hour.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: And for me, the most stressful part is if I'm
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: in here and makeup and I'm trying to do notes
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: and trying to figure everything out and not able to
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: just have a general chat about anything and everything. I
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: know that I'm putting myself under the pump. So I'm
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: just trying to be as prepped as I can get there,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: and then I just want to have a bit of
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: fun in the lead up to the game, you know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: talk to the players if you see them around, not
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: feel like you've got to do too much. And also,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: which I'm sure you'd be very interested in, creiggro On
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Tiff is also from a nutrition point of view, making
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: sure you've eaten really well beforehand, because we could be
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: on air for a good chunk of time like you
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: might be you know, five So this Wednesday, actually we're
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: on air I think for about six.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Hours because there's two games and.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: You can't really eat and you can't really go to
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: the toilet through that six hours, so you don't have time,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: so you can't really be drinking way too much water
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: and things like that, so you have to really be
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: prepped beforehand, otherwise you get caught in that really dodgy
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: loophole of having the lolly from the start and then
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: feeling terrible because you smashed the whole bag of lollies
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: and you sugar crash and that, you know, the roller
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: coaster ride. So even that kind of stuff I think
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: is important. Making sure you've had something good to eat,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: some good protein, and then it gets you through the day.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And also I think people would not typically the average
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: person watching you on Telly wouldn't think about understandably the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: cognitive load of needing to be switched on sharp, like
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: fully present, no fatigue for six hours, where you think about,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: if I'm reading an academic paper for twenty minutes, it
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: can put me into a coma because there's a heavy
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: cognitive load, and I don't love it, right, And obviously
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: you enjoy it a little bit more than I enjoyed
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: reading academic papers. But being able to be fully present
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and switched on and sharp for six hours is like
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: running a cognitive marathon.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: And the whole time I still feel like, even though
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I've done it for a while, I still feel like
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I've got my l plates on. Like you're just constantly learning,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: which is a good thing. You never feel comfortable like
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: you've nailed it. You're always constantly trying to think of
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: different ways you can do it, and you.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Know, and anything can happen the moment.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: One of the first games I did on Fox, We're
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: over in Adelaide, and there was an issue with the court,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: so the game was delayed an hour, so then you
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: had to feel that hour and then at halftime, the
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: game got canceled because of a power outage, and then
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: again you had to just feel and it's just stuff
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: like that that you can't ever relax. You've got someone
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: talking in your ear trying to guide you, and then
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: you've got the crowd noise, and then it's just there's
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: just so much stimulus everywhere. It's really hard to focus,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: far more than what it ever was as an athlete.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: But then again, I like that that it drives me
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: to just try and be better every time I do it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And also on top of that, you've got the anxiety
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of all the uncertainty in the moment because you knew
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: what was coming and now that's not coming. Yes, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: they're going to you. You've got to feel or you've
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: got to stretch this or like with what.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yes, So everyone who gives us feedback about
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: how what we're.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Doing in the moment, you just don't quite understand.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: All that goes into I have a question for you
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: that's from left field.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So most most people that I've worked with, including and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: also I put myself in this group, but most of
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: us have, especially athletes, have an interesting, let's say, an
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: interesting relationship with their body, you know, when they are athletes,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: because you're under a certain amount of pressure to keep
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: your body in a particular state. You know, I'm not
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: talking about aesthetics or weight. I'm talking about performance and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: function and optimal output whatever the sport is, you know.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: And now that I mean, obviously you're a long time
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: out of that, but I just want to know because
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you know you you are six', two AND i know
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that for, you like staying in elite shape for elite
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: sport didn't always come easy to.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: You not that you were overweight.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Per, se but it's not like you were some fucking
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: mesomorph who who just walked, out you, know and you
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: were just lean and, jacked, Right you're always working hard
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: with diet, hard with training, hard with all the, protocols
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and now it seems like. IT i don't, know but to,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: me it seems like from the outside looking, in which
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: very MUCH i, am now you seem almost, physically mentally
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and emotionally in a better. Place like how is your
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: relationship with your body changed since those?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Days?
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, LIKE i, mean you've nailed, it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Definitely that's exactly HOW i was as an, athlete and
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: LIKE i was JUST i look back now AND i,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: overtrained and BECAUSE i was constantly trying to push myself
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: to jump higher and to be stronger and all the
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: things that you're meant to, be and my body was
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: just never naturally gifted like that. Unfortunately and so, YEAH
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: i WOULD i was that focused THAT, i you, know
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: would do so much THAT i THINK i was constantly you,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: know had high levels of probably cortisol and stress running
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: through my body THAT i could never get the best
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: out of it. Anyway and then now WHEN i like
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: kind of flip now to WHERE i, AM i still
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: very much enjoy training and going to the, gym but
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: it's very much about never flogging myself or doing anything
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: that's overly high. Intense it's more about just being healthy
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: and like, MENTALLY i enjoy going to the gym because
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: it's a good outlet and doing things like, pilates and you,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: KNOW i still go and see our Mate Sam whaley
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: and do a bit of rehab just on the jobs
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: to try and keep myself.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Strong but, yeah it really is.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: A complete change that it's just all about being being
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: healthy and looking after, myself not ABOUT i don't care
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: how FIT i. AM i DON'T i can't run anyway
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: because my. Knee but, yeah it's not about that, anymore
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: even to the point where we've. COME i say it's wellness,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: flogs but it's probably not the right wellness.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Flogs.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah like we've got an infrared sauna at, home and you,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: KNOW i love that BECAUSE i love the benefits health,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: wise BUT i also love that it's just time, Out
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: SO i enjoy doing that WHEN i. Can And mark
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: has an ice bar setup and he uses. THAT i
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: don't go in there as, much BUT i KNOW i probably.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: SHOULD i know how much you love ice. Bars HISTORICALLY i.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Do we've done enough in my, time but, YEAH i
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: understand the benefits of, it so Sometimes i'll do that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Too we're in the, sauna.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: But doing things like that more for our lifestyle and
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: being healthy than it is about going to training and you,
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: know doing your forty five AND i know there's a
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: place for, that but definitely for my, body it made
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: it so much worse from pushing it so.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Much do you have do you have a like an
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: overarching idea OF i guess or objective of what you
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: know what life at fifty will look, like or do
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you just kind of LIKE i know that you're living more.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Consciously AND i, MEAN i know you're a long way from.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Fifty but WHAT i mean, is you KNOW i say this,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: often but the amount of Times i've sat down with
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: somebody who's fifty is years old who says to, me,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: oh like in reference to where their life's at and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: there everything's, at you, know they, go this wasn't my.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Plan and then WHEN i, say CAN i see the?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Plan there is no?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Plan you?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Know do you live kind of methodically like that where
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you think in, one, two five, Years not in terms
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of so you've got this these KPIs mapped out on
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: some whiteboard that you And mark are reviewing on a quarterly,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: basis but where you think, hopefully you, know in ten
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: years we're going to be living down the peninsula and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: do it or?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Whatever do you think forward that?
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: FAR i mean not really other than LIKE i guess
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: you have to with a child because you've got to
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: think about schools and stuff like. That but in terms
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: of me, PERSONALLY i, LIKE i just want to as
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: much AS i can be doing what we're. Doing like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: me the work THAT i, DO i love it whichever
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: way it goes and, flows Like i'm happy with that
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: as long As i'm still making the right choices like
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: that are actually right for, me AND i will ALWAYS
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: i will always look after my health and my body
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: BECAUSE i know how important that is for me. Too
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: so in terms of plans, like of COURSE i, love you,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: know renovating and. Buying HOW i would love to do
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: more of that IF i, could but comes with the
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: money that you need as.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Well but, yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Of, course of course we should mention to our listeners
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: who don't, know which is probably half of, them that
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you and it was A karla were on the. Block
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: how was that twenty eighteen or.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Something, yes that's exactly, right.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And did did very well of, Course so you still
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: have that renovation kind of.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Passion, YEAH i REALLY i enjoy.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: It and my dad's a, builder so that was always
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: kind of you, know in front of me as a,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: kid and, YEAH i love doing. It but obviously you
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: know you need time to do that as, well so
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: it always takes, time But i'm always tinking. Around that's
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: what we had to do with infrared sauna was build
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: an outdoor area to be able to house the sauna,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: outside and So dad AND i did that last, summer and,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: YEAH i really enjoy. It it's obviously it's, physical SO
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: i enjoy that part of it, Too but just being
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: creative and learning things That i've got no idea about and,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Thinking i've, got you, know all the tools THAT i,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: need BUT i don't really know how to use.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Them So i'm going to rely on everybody else to
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: help me with that. Part BUT i like. IT i
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: like in my hands. Dirty.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, WELL i think obviously renovation and building and like
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it is really a creative, process you, know and if
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you can conceive, it then you can find the people
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that can help you turn that theoretical something into.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: A real world.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: SOMETHING i want to ask you a couple of philosophical. Questions,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: so what is something that you are better at now
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: than you used to be that that was perhaps a
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: flaw or a weakness that now you feel like you're
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: starting to master or at, least have you, know got
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a better understanding of?
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Cheapers what would it? BE i?
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Think or in other, words what do you do better?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Now what's something now that you used to be kind
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of shit? At and now maybe you're not a, superstar
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: but you definitely have learned and grown in that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Space, oh you, know so much of what we've already
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: spoken about, today, definitely but knowing myself being far more
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: self aware and understanding of me and WHAT i, need
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: AND i think maybe comes with, age but also you,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: know just evolving and always. Learning Like i'm a big
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: one for always listening to podcasts and you, know audio
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: books and really trying to learn as much AS i
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: can in terms of everything that you, know you talk.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: About BUT i also FIND i get fatigued from that,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: too and that SOMETIMES i just have to completely switch
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: off from it because you hear the same words all the,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: time and you hear a lot of the same, topics
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: and it can get really overwhelming and, exhausting and SO
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: i have to be really conscious of pulling myself out
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: of that and not getting too caught up in that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Too so, YEAH i think probably being just far more
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: self aware is a huge. One and being even me
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: like as you would, know LIKE i was never a
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: really emotional, person AND i certainly do am far more
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: emotional now THAN i ever, was and probably still not
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: too you, know an extreme, degree BUT i JUST i
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: see the value in that as, well about showing your
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: emotions to people, too and you, know letting your guard
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: down a little bit BECAUSE i was very much fixated
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: on one, thing and you, KNOW i was never really
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: very open like that was That, CRAIGO i.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Don't know what you're talking.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: ABOUT i reckon you were always, emotional but you didn't
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: express it as express, it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: You, know like you it was always. There, yeah and
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: why well you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: AND i have been friends for probably the best part
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of twenty, years, right and we don't see each other.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Much but if you rang me and When i'm FUCKED
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: i need, whatever you know THAT i would do.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: That AND i KNOW i know the other way, around you,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Know SO.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I think, That, YEAH i think that as you you,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: know for, me it feels like you. Are and the
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: same With. Tiff tiff showbian rock that's from The, himalayas
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: that keeps. It she's always got it on. Her but
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it's funny because you both have, that LIKE i, said
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: that little bit of fuck off about. You but ALSO
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: i think part of that for both of you is
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: because you are you do actually care a, lot but
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you don't always or you haven't always known how to express.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: That BUT i feel you, KNOW i know that For,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: tip AND i feel like for, you like you're probably
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: just a little bit you, know more demonstrative and comfortable
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: in your own, skin you know these?
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Days be, yes definitely that probably it sums it up quite.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Well AND i don't know is that an age? Thing
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: is it just a personality?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Thing AND i think also it's a you, know it's,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: like what's the, point what's the point of being fucking
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: what's the point of having the fuck?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Off? Like what what is that doesn't do? Anything you?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Know and also do you know what else is? Liberating
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: AND i talk about this a, bit but what else
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: is liberating is when you GO.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I don't, KNOW i don't, know OR i fucked, up
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: OR i was a. Dickhead it's my. Fault you, Know it's,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: okay it's my, fault wasn't? You it's actually, me you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Know totally and even not feeling like you have to
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: have an opinion on something, too just, listening go for,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: people go your hardest with what you.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Think i'm happy to just sit back and just.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Someone said to, Me, yes someone asked me yesterday about THE.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Us you know that the, presidency WHAT i, THINK i
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: go to no one in the world needs to know
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: WHAT i, think AND i don't even know what how
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: LIKE i would Just it's like, going what do you
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: think is going to come? Up like green or? BLUE i, go,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: OH i don't, know Or i'm going to roll the dice?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Crage what number do you? Reckon it'll?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Be how the fuck DO i? Know and why do you?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Care did you listen To trump And rogan? Recently?
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: YEAH i? DID i.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: DID i did listen to the whole three. Hours but,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: man he. Can he can go on a, tangent can't.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: HE i JUST i quite enjoyed, it Like i've got.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: AGAIN i don't even care about what. Happened enjoyed.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: It.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Interesting how he was talking about weaving things into conversations
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: and how he does, that.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Like yes' strategic AND i Love.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Rogan would ask him a specific. Question within thirty, seconds
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: he's talking about something that he did In, delaware you,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: know talking about the. Numbers are we did very well?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: There we did and we got very good numbers and
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: very good. Support And rogan's, like, yeah that isn't WHAT
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: i asked you. About he's, Like he's, like, yeah that's,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: cool but answer the. Question, yeah that's WHAT i go
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: for three?
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Hours, Ah and doesn't he love a?
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Compliment When rogan said to, him you've got good comedic.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Timing oh fucking, hell it's like he loves all. That, hey,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: well we love catching up with. You you're the.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Best how do people connect with you and find?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: You and anyone that's listening that might want to try
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and find that three minute spare that you have a
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: year to employ you for a corporate gig to get
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you to come and work with their. Team by the,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: way you better be fucking cashed up if you want
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: her to, come because she doesn't come.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Cheap how do people do? That be just?
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Through probably socials is the best. One just at The
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Yanchor chapfield on my. Socials just hit me up on there.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: With that my last. Quad, yeah you're terrible at self.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Promotion you're like, that don't, Worry i'm, busy but you, know.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks so you're six to, two you, bloke six.' four
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: how tall is you're two and a half?
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Year, old oh she hasn't hit six, foot yet somedays,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: She probably well she's. Pretty tall like you take her
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: to the playground and, everyone's like oh is? She four and,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: make no she's two and.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: A half do you?
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Know what actually even on that that KIND of i
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: find that hard to like understand, from people because everyone
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: wants to tell you how tall. She IS and i
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: think it takes me, back to, you know just every
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: day of, my life where everyone tells you how tall.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: You Are and, i'm, Like, ah god she's going to
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: have to deal with that her, whole life and everyone
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: telling her how tall she is and everyone asking she's
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: going to, play netball AND so i get really defensive.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: With everyone, i'm like stop talking about her height all.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: The TIME but i pull my jets on THAT because
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: i can't PROJECT.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: And i don't think that's going away, anytime, Soon no
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and it just correcks.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Me Up and, i'm, like, yep yes. She's tall are
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: you surprised look.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: At.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Me yes.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: You could be super honest and, you know go back
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: about something else, about Somebody but, i'm, Like no i'll just.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: KEEP it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I could come back right now with, certain things but
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: that would be. Very. Bad bianca. Thank you we'll talk.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Again soon we'll say goodbye, of here, of course but,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks Be, thanks tiff
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Thank you see, you, later everyone