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Normally Podcast: Tucker Carlson Controversy, Bill Gates’ Climate U-Turn & Election 2025 · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, that normal ticks. But when the news gets weird.
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Speaker 2: I am Mary coutha pants and I'm Carol Margott. How
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Speaker 2: are you, Mary Catherine.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right as usual. The onslaught of news
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Speaker 1: is somewhat overwhelming, to the extent by the way that
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Speaker 1: the president's on a whole ass Asian trip.
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Speaker 2: It's funny because when we were talking topics today, you know,
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Speaker 2: I keep thinking, like, should we talk Virginia and New
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Speaker 2: Jersey New York City elections? Like we were on Fox
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Speaker 2: and Friends together this morning, possibly our first ever TV appearents, although.
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Speaker 1: I think soon there one of us has.
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Speaker 2: That great a memory, so who knows, it could be
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Speaker 2: we may have been on before.
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Speaker 1: But you know, there's really not much to say.
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Speaker 2: We're careening toward election day and it's not looking good, so.
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Speaker 1: Like a little bit of tightening. I do think that
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Speaker 1: a g rayson Virginia. There's a chance that Republicans pick
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Speaker 1: that one off, not to use an inappropriate metaphor given
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Speaker 1: the opponent there, but I think that one's possible. It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be an uphill battle for everyone else. As you know,
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Speaker 1: I did early vote today. I like to vote on
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Speaker 1: election day, but I am traveling on election day, so generally,
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Speaker 1: when I can, I vote on election day. But I
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Speaker 1: do enjoy the part where I in my northern Virginia
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Speaker 1: area walk by and the Democrats see a mom and
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Speaker 1: they go, do you want our ballot? And I say, now,
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Speaker 1: give me that one lonely Republican over here. I' let
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Speaker 1: me grab that from you.
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Speaker 2: I could even get it. You guys have separate ballots.
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Speaker 1: No, it's the sample ballot. We're not even registered as
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Speaker 1: party in Virginia, so like you can grab, you can
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Speaker 1: vote in either primary. You can do whatever you want here.
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Speaker 1: But I do enjoy kind of like tweaking them a
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Speaker 1: little bit because they're not even aware that we are
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Speaker 1: around them. Right, do you even make much less than
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Speaker 1: we're forty something moms? So that's always a fun moment
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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: In New York, I have to explain to my mom
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Speaker 2: how she's not voting for the Republican candidate this time,
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Speaker 2: and it's going to have to be some party she's
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Speaker 2: never heard of, like the wing. You do is you
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Speaker 2: find Andrew Cuomo on the ballot, My.
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Speaker 1: Gosh, bless them, bless him. All right, So we decided
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Speaker 1: to talk a little foreign policy, since that's important and
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Speaker 1: that is happening right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so Donald Trump is in Asia. He met
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Speaker 2: with the new Japanese Prime Minister, who is also a
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Speaker 2: heavy metal drummer, which I absolutely love. That is just
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Speaker 2: and she's so cute, And I mean, I know it's
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Speaker 2: not fair that we describe women as cute, although I
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Speaker 2: have to say Abbe was also very adorable, but she
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Speaker 2: just is so cute. She jumped up and down when
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Speaker 2: she met Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Adorable, super cute. Well, and she apparently is a shinzo.
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Speaker 1: Abbe was the former prime minister who was assassinated, a
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Speaker 1: story that we don't talk about enough. That one kind
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Speaker 1: of just like slipped by everybody story. Yeah. So he
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Speaker 1: was a great friend to Donald Trum. They liked each
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Speaker 1: other a lot. She's a protege of his and is
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Speaker 1: a conservative as he was, so there's reason for her
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Speaker 1: and Trump to get along. Her name is Sanai teik
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Speaker 1: to Kaichi. I'm sure I'm mispronouncing it medium wrong, but
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Speaker 1: that's what it is. And they had a seem to
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Speaker 1: have a very nice time together. She donated some more
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Speaker 1: cherry trees to the to d C, which actually is
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Speaker 1: much needed. The title Basin Storm wiped out a bunch
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Speaker 1: of them, so it'll be nice to have some new ones.
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Speaker 1: I also noticed in Japan, and I sent you this
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Speaker 1: and we can play a clip of it, because it
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Speaker 1: is pretty spectacular, just the showmanship of Donald Trump in
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Speaker 1: any place, on any occasion. He comes down and look,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a term for this. He's like on
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Speaker 1: a battleship in Japan and he comes down on what's
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Speaker 1: essentially to meet the troops, an elevator for the fighter jets,
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Speaker 1: and like reveals himself as the elevator cost. It's just insane.
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Speaker 1: The troops go crazy. He has a real gift for that.
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Speaker 1: And at this point, at this point, like he does
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Speaker 1: it so often that that one doesn't even make news,
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Speaker 1: you know, like I saw. I happen to see it
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Speaker 1: on X at some point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually I didn't see it until you sent
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Speaker 2: it to me. I saw the one where he lands
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Speaker 2: in Malaysia and goes right into dancing with like the
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Speaker 2: Malaysians who are waiting there for him. Whatever you think
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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, and he's amazing at this kind of showmanship.
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Speaker 2: He is so real in those moments. He is not
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Speaker 2: faking the funk in any way. He is just like
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Speaker 2: getting down with the Malaysian readers.
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Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of presidents dancing. I don't
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Speaker 1: get mad at any of them for it. I think
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Speaker 1: it's cool. I think it's you being yourself, enjoying the moment.
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Speaker 1: George Bush was famously a charming and slightly dorky dancer,
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Speaker 1: and I enjoyed it very much, and so more power
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Speaker 1: to him. But yeah, he's in He's in Malaysia, he's
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Speaker 1: in Japan. He's going to South Korea, which has a
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Speaker 1: new prime minister at host coup prime minister, remember that,
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Speaker 1: yeah story, And then he's off to meet Xijingping in China, where,
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Speaker 1: of course, in all of these stops, trade is a
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Speaker 1: talk they're having. I believe in Japan they talked about
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Speaker 1: some soybean and gas trade changes. She was talking about
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Speaker 1: purchasing vehicles from the US, all sorts of stuff like
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Speaker 1: that as the tariff conversation continues. But China will be
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Speaker 1: the main event.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Chinese trade talks are supposed to be
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Speaker 2: kicking off. And you know, if you're wondering what side
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Speaker 2: the Washington Post is on, it's not our pride.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, you think right.
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Speaker 2: The headline is Drew Holden highlighted this on x as
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Speaker 2: Trump meets Chi Chinese leader has the upper hand. It's
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Speaker 2: like if it was an opinion column. Okay, this is
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Speaker 2: in their news section, in their world section, and then
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Speaker 2: they have this line. The parent deal on offer signals
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Speaker 2: a little more than a redemption of the status quo
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Speaker 2: from around when Trump returned to office in January, and
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Speaker 2: serves as vindication of China's own hardball approach to the
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Speaker 2: Trump administration's coercive tactics, Like why are you rooting against
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Speaker 2: us even if you don't like tariffs, which I understand completely, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: why would you want China.
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Speaker 1: To win well? And I don't like tariffs, And also
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Speaker 1: I don't think the facts on the ground reflect that
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Speaker 1: it's gone super well for China since this whole thing started. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so let's even if you don't dig the tariffs or Trump,
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Speaker 1: can we evaluate it in a fair way?
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Speaker 2: No, fair away. That's the thing though, Like, you know,
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Speaker 2: we don't expect fairness, and it's gone to the point
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Speaker 2: where we don't even you know, we don't even expect
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Speaker 2: it in like the most basic ways, right, It would
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Speaker 2: be so much better if everything was just like, here's
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Speaker 2: our opinion, because that's really all it is anyway, Like
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Speaker 2: just be honest and say.
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Speaker 1: All of it, this this whole newspaper's opinion. Like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well I do think that is I mean, that's essentially.
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Speaker 1: I was a straight journalist when I got into journalism,
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Speaker 1: and I decided that as a right leaning person, it
7:03
Speaker 1: would be extremely hard to continue and to rise as
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Speaker 1: a straight journalist because once they figure out what you are,
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Speaker 1: they're like, well, you can't do straight journalism, so you're
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Speaker 1: sort of relegated to doing opinion journalism, opinion and reporting
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Speaker 1: as you and I do sometimes. But I actually think
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Speaker 1: it's helpful for people to know this is where I stand,
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Speaker 1: right and this is how I'm evaluating these facts.
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Speaker 2: Right, Like, let's stop pretending.
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Speaker 1: So that you can evaluate, Okay, where's she coming from
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Speaker 1: on this? And I try to be an honest broker
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Speaker 1: and I try to be rational about things, and as
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Speaker 1: a result, I ended up writer about a lot of
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Speaker 1: things at CNN and then everyone else while I was
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Speaker 1: there because I was coming from a different place. And
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Speaker 1: so that's helpful to know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, everybody has an opinion, like, let's stop
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Speaker 2: pretending otherwise.
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Speaker 1: Come on. Yeah, well, we'll keep you posted on the
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Speaker 1: g meeting. Ye, I'm not rooting against us.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm very much rooting for us, and now would
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Speaker 2: be rooting for us even if it were Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: taking this meeting or Kamala Harris or anybody else root
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Speaker 2: for America. It's really not that hard.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, righty. We'll take a break on Normally and we'll
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Speaker 1: be back in a moment with another podcast that had
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Speaker 1: some disappointing thoughts on it.
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Speaker 2: This week, we are back on Normally, and I hate
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Speaker 2: to talk about this subject because I don't want to
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Speaker 2: give it air. But on the flip side, as we
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Speaker 2: were talking about it before, like you said, not giving
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Speaker 2: this air hasn't worked, and that is that Tucker Carlson
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Speaker 2: has gone off the deep end, and he had Nick
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Speaker 2: Fuentes on his show this week. I'm disappointed. I really
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Speaker 2: like Tucker. I said this on an episode, you know,
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Speaker 2: on a previous episode, that I liked him when he
8:53
Speaker 2: was a conservative. I don't know what this is anymore.
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Speaker 2: He's obsessed with Israel and Jews. It is the topic
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Speaker 2: on every show, and if it's not on the show.
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Speaker 2: Then it's in his newsletter. It's all all the air
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Speaker 2: in the room for him. And I liked him. We
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Speaker 2: were friendly. I don't overuse the term friends. We weren't friends,
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Speaker 2: but we certainly had a good rapport. We were text
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Speaker 2: And it's sad. He doesn't even look the same to
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Speaker 2: me anymore. He looks like a different person. The eye
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Speaker 2: that are completely different, the smile is completely different. Something
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Speaker 2: happened there and I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a whole thing. And in keeping with
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Speaker 1: the theme of our show, it's not normal. No, this
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Speaker 1: is This is a very online discussion. Nick fuent Us
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Speaker 1: is a very online personality, as Tucker has become at
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Speaker 1: this point because he is not with a network anymore,
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Speaker 1: and there are like healthy online personalities and unhealthy online personalities.
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Speaker 1: My concern in the past has been, Okay, do I
9:53
Speaker 1: want to spend a bunch of my time as a
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Speaker 1: normal person, raising a normal family, right parsing Groper's and
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Speaker 1: all other groups of anti semites and all of these
10:01
Speaker 1: online fights and figuring out who everyone is in order
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Speaker 1: to push them away. Or do I want to be
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Speaker 1: a normal person and do my part. And it feels like,
10:11
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be in this If you want
10:13
Speaker 1: to be in this business, you're going to have to
10:15
Speaker 1: understand who these people are. To agree you do a
10:17
Speaker 1: degree you don't really want to and listen to them
10:19
Speaker 1: to a degree you don't really want to in order
10:21
Speaker 1: to say this is why no, this is why no.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. And the silence from so
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Speaker 2: many different quarters on the right is also disappointing. They
10:32
Speaker 2: all see what's going on, they don't want to comment
10:34
Speaker 2: on it because they know it's gross. Nick Fointes is
10:37
Speaker 2: not anti Israel. He is just an anti Semite. He
10:41
Speaker 2: has little to no opinion on Israel. His only opinions
10:44
Speaker 2: stem from I don't like Jews, therefore I don't like Israel.
10:47
Speaker 2: And this you know washing of his reputation that's going
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Speaker 2: on where Tucker and others are trying to portray him
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Speaker 2: as no, no, he's just you know, anti Zionist whatever. No,
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Speaker 2: not at all. He's just a racist, anti semi and
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Speaker 2: it's just not that interesting a person. And that's the
11:06
Speaker 2: other thing. I feel like the fact that he has
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Speaker 2: a following says some really bad, dark things about you know,
11:12
Speaker 2: where some people in our country are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have trouble understanding the appeal in a lot
11:17
Speaker 1: of these cases, whether it's Candice Owans or Tucker at
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Speaker 1: this point or fuint Ess And like, you know, some
11:23
Speaker 1: would say that's a weakness of mine. I don't think
11:25
Speaker 1: it's a weakness. And by the way, I think one
11:27
Speaker 1: of the analogs on the left is this Jennifer Welsh
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Speaker 1: woman who's become a light of the movement, and just
11:33
Speaker 1: today I saw it she gets again, this is sort
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Speaker 1: of how you get famous being very online, is that
11:38
Speaker 1: you say outrageous and sane, very very mean things and
11:42
Speaker 1: then your clips go everywhere. And so I saw her
11:45
Speaker 1: today calling Riley Gaines a twat and was just like,
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Speaker 1: this is how we create leaders. Now, yeah, I know
11:53
Speaker 1: we're trolling all the way down in politics, but like it.
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Speaker 1: At some point I watched a watched a segment of
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Speaker 1: the Fintest discussion that was about women and porn and sex.
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Speaker 1: After that my day was pretty much shot, Like like
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Speaker 1: one of my one of my favorite lines was not
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Speaker 1: about the porn, but it was just Fuintests saying, the
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Speaker 1: women are they're they're very emboldened, they're too emboldened. And
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Speaker 1: then there was a lot of discussion about, you know,
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Speaker 1: sort of the dopamine problem with porn and how it
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Speaker 1: burns people out. It's an addiction, and all the points
12:30
Speaker 1: were correct, but when they're paired with the problem is
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Speaker 1: the women right now the porn, Like, I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: that's going to solve the problem, folks. H And at
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Speaker 1: one point also Tucker was just like, Wow, that's a
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Speaker 1: lot of jerking off, And I was like, I think
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Speaker 1: I've heard enough. I think I've heard enough.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a lot of jerking off. Actually, Nick
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Speaker 2: Fuintes one time live streamed himself watching gay porn and
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Speaker 2: guess who he blamed for it. Guess who he blamed
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Speaker 2: for quote unquote hacking his computer? Is real married Catherine,
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Speaker 2: It was Israel.
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Speaker 1: Why'd y'all do that, Carol? You know.
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Speaker 2: And that's the other thing, like talkwards like mister you know,
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Speaker 2: have a family, get married young, like conservative or at
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Speaker 2: least you know he was and lived that life right,
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Speaker 2: and we used to talk about that all the time.
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Speaker 2: How that was the most important thing and how I
13:19
Speaker 2: know Number one for me is that my kids get
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Speaker 2: married and have kids. And he would stay you know
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Speaker 2: the same for him. And now he entertains this kind
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Speaker 2: of nonsense and people like the Tate brothers who just
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Speaker 2: are misogynist and gross and dumb, just so dumb, and Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I continue to be massively disappointed in him. I was
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Speaker 2: really on his side after he got fired from Box
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Speaker 2: and this is where he is now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't a pleasant watch. No, as my as
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Speaker 1: my very tame description of it probably indicates, Sorry, guys,
13:57
Speaker 1: my kid is having a fit downstairs.
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Speaker 2: The right is going to have to face this. It's
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Speaker 2: going to have to decide whether they are in the movement,
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Speaker 2: and if they are, I can say people like me
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Speaker 2: are out. Which listen, you know the all the comments
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Speaker 2: I got on X that good Jews shouldn't be in
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Speaker 2: it any way, if that's where you want to take it, like,
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Speaker 2: good luck with that. We saw what happened to the
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Speaker 2: left when they entertained their fringe voices, and that's where
14:23
Speaker 2: we are now, at a crossroads of do we entertain
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Speaker 2: this insanity or do we push them aside and move
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Speaker 2: past them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the Seth Dylan thesis is like, you
14:35
Speaker 1: can see what letting the Koop's drive did to the left.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to do that or should we sort
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Speaker 1: of rent it in here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I like, you know, the people who
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Speaker 2: are speaking out, like Seth Dill, and like you like
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Speaker 2: a lot of other people like Dana Lash. They're my people.
14:54
Speaker 2: This is who I want on my side for any
14:58
Speaker 2: upcoming You know, I don't want to say war or
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Speaker 2: battles because I don't mean it literally metaphorical political battles
15:06
Speaker 2: like this is this is the squad that I would
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Speaker 2: like to be with.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also not Jennifer Welch.
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Speaker 2: Right back with more on Normally and Bill Gates changed
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Speaker 2: his mind. Look at that we are back on normally
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Speaker 2: where Bill Gates has had a change of heart about
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Speaker 2: climate change, which is kind of funny because he was
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Speaker 2: a giant, you know, we got to do everything we
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Speaker 2: could to stop climate change. He had an essay that
15:40
Speaker 2: he wrote where he said, I want to read from it.
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Speaker 2: Climate change, disease, and poverty are all major problems. We
15:47
Speaker 2: should deal with them in proportion to the suffering they cause.
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Speaker 2: Although climate change will have serious consequences, particularly for people
15:54
Speaker 2: in the poorest country, it will not lead to humanity's demise.
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Speaker 2: This is a chance to refocus on the metric that
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Speaker 2: should count even more than emissions and temperature change improving lives.
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Speaker 2: Our chief goal should be to prevent suffering, particularly for
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Speaker 2: those in the toughest conditions who live in the world's
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Speaker 2: forest country. I mean, that's nice.
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Speaker 1: Now, told Carol, Yeah, that's dot can be told all along.
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Speaker 2: I said this to my kids today, Like, you know,
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Speaker 2: we're trying to get more into current events and what's
16:23
Speaker 2: going on. And you know, with the note of like
16:26
Speaker 2: you may have heard Mama say this once or twice
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Speaker 2: in the last few years, that defeating poverty is far
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Speaker 2: more important than any climate goals.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's bizarre, and I'm sure that there's some personal gain here.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are pointing out that he has
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Speaker 2: some sort of something in the works that he'd get
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Speaker 2: some climate pushback on. Somebody tweeted at me, he's setting
16:51
Speaker 2: up a defense for his AI data centers that will
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Speaker 2: consume massive energy. I mean, that's probably what's going on here.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that he actually had a change of heart.
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Speaker 2: He needs people to tone down the crazy climate change
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Speaker 2: veteric because he's got a business deal in there.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a combo of the two. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the data centers are becoming a real energy issue and
17:11
Speaker 1: a populist energy issue that both Republicans and Democrats and
17:15
Speaker 1: races this year are addressing and sort of pushing back
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Speaker 1: against because it can raise electricity prices, and they're saying, hey,
17:22
Speaker 1: you guys need to kick in for maintenance of the
17:23
Speaker 1: grid if you're going to have these big power eaters.
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Speaker 1: All of that is worth talking about. But I don't
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Speaker 1: think he had a change of heart. I think his
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Speaker 1: original position was cynical and stupid. Yeah, and he was
17:34
Speaker 1: just freaking people out because that was what was utilitarian
17:37
Speaker 1: at the moment. And now what's beneficial and utilitarian is
17:41
Speaker 1: that people calm down a little bit. But we should
17:43
Speaker 1: have been calmer the whole time, and a person who
17:46
Speaker 1: invented something so world changing should always have been telling
17:52
Speaker 1: people that innovation, technology, freedom, capitalism create better outcomes for
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Speaker 1: the most impoverished areas. And the quicker you get those
18:04
Speaker 1: those places, more technology, and by that way, that means
18:08
Speaker 1: more power, Ye, the better off they're gonna be. I'm
18:12
Speaker 1: reading a Fossil Future, which I should have read years ago,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's by Alex Epstein, and he makes the point,
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Speaker 1: which is, you know, our sort of gut feeling the
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Speaker 1: whole time, which is we only evaluate the energy discussion
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Speaker 1: on the prospective negative consequences. Yeah, we never talk about
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Speaker 1: how it's the lifeblood of everything, right, and how you
18:35
Speaker 1: can't have human flourishing without it.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: The more people have it, the better off they are,
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Speaker 1: and the more we are able to create solutions to
18:44
Speaker 1: any possible negative downside. Like exactly, yeah, I'm so glad
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Speaker 1: you're with us now, Bill, but like we've been here
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Speaker 1: for a while.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice of you to join us. There was an
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Speaker 2: AP story like two days ago that about how young,
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Speaker 2: some young people don't want to have kids because of
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Speaker 2: climate change. And you know what's interesting about that also
19:03
Speaker 2: is the Semaphore website they do this thing where they
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Speaker 2: point out stories that each side isn't reading, like what
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Speaker 2: conservatives aren't reading, what liberals aren't reading, And this was
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Speaker 2: the conservatives aren't reading story that AP story and young
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Speaker 2: young people not having kids because of climate change, maybe
19:19
Speaker 2: because we've read that story like a million times and
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Speaker 2: we know about it and we talk about it more
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Speaker 2: than they do. We talk about the fact that that's
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Speaker 2: ridiculous and stop.
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Speaker 1: That, and yeah, we should give some some stats from
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Speaker 1: that just for perspective, because I hate this thing where
19:35
Speaker 1: leading liberals get to do this thing, where they get
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Speaker 1: all this social credit and plaudits for a decade, two
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Speaker 1: decades for being on the panicky side of this. They
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Speaker 1: turn people into this. In a twenty twenty four Lancet
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Speaker 1: study of people sixteen to twenty five years old, the
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Speaker 1: majority of respondents were very or extremely worried about climate change.
19:55
Speaker 1: Study also found fifty two percent so they were hesitant
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Speaker 1: to have children because of climate change. Adults fifty years
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Speaker 1: old without children were four times more likely than adults
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Speaker 1: over fifty without children to say that climate plays a
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Speaker 1: factor in their decision, according to a Pew Research Center poll,
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Speaker 1: and a study a published this year in the Proceedings
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Speaker 1: of the National Academy of Sciences found that more than
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Speaker 1: half a respondent said yes or maybe to whether climate
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Speaker 1: change made them question having children. Now, from our perspective,
20:21
Speaker 1: having children is like the greatest joy, Yeah that I
20:24
Speaker 1: have experienced, the greatest fun that I have experienced. And
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Speaker 1: to freak people out to the degree that they change
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Speaker 1: their life trajectory because of something you now think can like, oh,
20:35
Speaker 1: we can solve that later.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they damage this generation of kids. And look,
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Speaker 2: if you want to be extra specific about it, it's
20:41
Speaker 2: not conservative kids. Like conservative kids are not getting the
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Speaker 2: message at home that like, you know, you shouldn't have
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Speaker 2: kids because the climate change is can get real bad.
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Speaker 2: You know, we have a joke that we make in
20:51
Speaker 2: our house, which is when the kids were little and
20:53
Speaker 2: they were learning about climate change is school. And I
20:55
Speaker 2: want to diffuse the situation and not make it like
20:58
Speaker 2: a crazy thing and say, you know, the world's not
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Speaker 2: going to end. The world is going to be fine.
21:03
Speaker 2: People might not be here, but the world will be fine,
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Speaker 2: and you don't have to worry about it. Nothing that
21:07
Speaker 2: you need to concern yourself with. And it's something I've
21:09
Speaker 2: always talked about also, like why do we start beating
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Speaker 2: the climate change story to kids in kindergarten? Why what
21:16
Speaker 2: is the kid going to do about it? And then
21:17
Speaker 2: they kind of do state of the kids, Well, well,
21:20
Speaker 2: what should we do about it? Like how about you
21:21
Speaker 2: leave the kids alone and you figure it out yourself.
21:24
Speaker 2: Bill Gates seems like he's fine with not figuring it
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Speaker 2: out anymore.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know, and like, as I said, this would
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Speaker 1: have been the crazy right wing position ten years ago, right,
21:33
Speaker 1: which is like Hey, I think we could probably figure
21:35
Speaker 1: this out, and maybe we should all chill. Also, a
21:37
Speaker 1: lot of people change their life plans based on the
21:39
Speaker 1: stupid population bomb from Paul Rlick, which was not a
21:43
Speaker 1: real thing, and like it changes people's lives in bad ways.
21:48
Speaker 1: The anxiety is terrible. People shouldn't have to worry about
21:52
Speaker 1: it now. According to Bill Gates, thanks a lot. And
21:55
Speaker 1: I just think there's like as usual with these huge
21:58
Speaker 1: damaging policy pushes, like keeping schools closed, for instance, there's
22:03
Speaker 1: no one who's held accountable for this. He's just like, oh, yeah.
22:06
Speaker 2: Rapes right the whole time he's been flying on his
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Speaker 2: private plane. I mean, oh yeah, but like, well, yeah,
22:14
Speaker 2: you know ed you shouldn't be you know, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: matter how rich you are, how many people will talk
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Speaker 2: to you on the flight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they don't believe it, because if they did,
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Speaker 1: Obama wouldn't have built like three shoreline homes for himself.
22:29
Speaker 1: The I also wanted to point out, just to couple
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Speaker 1: with this, the this has always been a scam the
22:35
Speaker 1: California This is from this week too. The California Public
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Speaker 1: Employees retirement system for state employees lost seventy one percent
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Speaker 1: of a four hundred and sixty eight million dollar investment
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Speaker 1: in a clean energy and technology private equity fund, state
22:48
Speaker 1: records show, but they won't explain how these losses are
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Speaker 1: a major problem for the California taxpayers, who, at least
22:55
Speaker 1: for now, are the backstop for underfunded state pensions. So
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Speaker 1: all this like economy built around this, and I use
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Speaker 1: economy loosely because it's a lot of scam stuff loses
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Speaker 1: people money, loses taxpayers money. You remember the Cylindra of
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Speaker 1: the past. There's a thousand of those that we funded,
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Speaker 1: and now California yet again showing its optimum governance by
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Speaker 1: throwing in on this stuff and losing everybody's money.
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