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- 0:00Welcome to AI Update, where we explore the latest advancements
- 0:03in artificial intelligence with insights into Open AI, Google,
- 0:07Gemini, generative AI, machine learning, and more.
- 0:11Now let's learn together. I'm your host, Will Walden, the
- 0:15CEO of NVIDIA. Jensen Wong believes that an
- 0:19effective leader must be willing to put their hands in the dirt
- 0:24and get dirty Now. His leadership philosophy is
- 0:27deeply rooted in his early experiences.
- 0:30He has a teenage busboy at Denny's where he performed a
- 0:33variety of menial tasks, including washing dishes and
- 0:37cleaning toilets. Now Wong, who is the Co founder
- 0:40of NVIDIA, a company that's worth $3.1 trillion, Imagine
- 0:45this. He's been in a Denny's booth
- 0:48now. Despite his current net worth of
- 0:50about $108 billion, Wong credits his humble beginnings for
- 0:55shaping his approach to leadership.
- 0:57In a March interview at the Stanford Graduate School of
- 1:00Business, he said that no task is beneath him.
- 1:04He reflected on his time as a dishwasher and also a toilet
- 1:07cleaner, and he said that these experiences instilled the sense
- 1:11of humility and a strong work ethic in him.
- 1:15He told the students there, I mean, I cleaned a lot of
- 1:18toilets. I've cleaned more toilets than
- 1:20all of you combined. And some of them you just can't
- 1:24Unsee. And everybody laughed at that
- 1:26point. And his willingness to take on
- 1:28any task, regardless of how trivial, is a principle he
- 1:31carries into his role as the CEO.
- 1:34His approach to leadership involves a readiness to assist
- 1:37employees with any task if it contributes to the company's
- 1:40success, he said. If you send me something and you
- 1:43want my input on it and I can be of service to you and in my
- 1:46review of it, share with you how I reasoned through it, I've made
- 1:50a contribution to you. Which is a weird thing to say
- 1:54for a leader. Most leaders are considered
- 1:57day-to-day operate operators. They don't really mingle with
- 2:01the with the masses. But he's a separate kind of
- 2:04fellow and he's working well with his team.
- 2:06It's a team player. They're now known for his hands
- 2:09on management style. He's often described by
- 2:12employees as demanding and also a perfectionist.
- 2:15But he requests weekly updates from employees on their top five
- 2:18tasks and personally engages with them to provide feedback
- 2:22and guidance to move forward with their careers.
- 2:24And a New Yorker profile detailed Wong's practice of
- 2:27visiting employees desks to discuss their projects.
- 2:31It's direct engagement. It's part of his strategy to
- 2:34improve company performance and help employees grow by sharing
- 2:37his thought processes and his reasoning.
- 2:39He shared at Stanford again that he finds personal fulfillment in
- 2:43teaching others how to approach problems strategically, he said.
- 2:46I show people how to reason through things all the time.
- 2:49Strategy things, how to forecast something, how to break a
- 2:52problem down. You're empowering people all
- 2:54over the place. To manage his workload
- 2:57effectively, he aims to complete his most complex tasks early in
- 3:00the day. This allows him to remain
- 3:02available to his team throughout the day, and he shared his
- 3:05practice during a commencement speech at the California
- 3:07Institute of Technology. But unlike many CEOs who limit
- 3:11their direct reports to a small group, he prefers having around
- 3:1550 direct reports. He believes this structure
- 3:19reduces organizational layers and facilitates better
- 3:22communication and decision making within NVIDIA, he
- 3:25explained to CNBC. Now they're having more direct
- 3:28reports helps maintain a fluid flow of information within the
- 3:32company. He believes that this approach
- 3:34enables him to lead more effectively and support his
- 3:37employees success now at Stanford, he articulated that
- 3:41the CE OS role is to inspire, empower and support their
- 3:45employees. He said those are the reasons
- 3:48why the management team exists in service of all the other
- 3:51people that work at the company now.
- 3:54Elon Musk, known for his own rigorous work ethic and hands on
- 3:58leadership of Tesla and SpaceX, praised him.
- 4:01Musk accommodation came after watching a video clip discussing
- 4:05his early work experiences at Denny's, and he echoed the
- 4:08sentiment. He said absolutely the right
- 4:11attitude. He recounted his efforts during
- 4:13the COVID-19 pandemic to ensure his factories and offices had
- 4:17sufficient toilet paper, highlighted a shared philosophy
- 4:20of handling menial tasks. Personally, Musk has previously
- 4:24demonstrated his commitment to understanding his employees
- 4:26challenges by sleeping on the factory floor at Tesla, he
- 4:30explained in a 2018 interview. The reason I slept on the floor
- 4:33was not because I couldn't go across the road and be at a
- 4:35hotel, it was because I wanted my circumstances to be worse
- 4:38than anyone else of the company. Musk's admiration for a while
- 4:43may also be tied to their intertwined business interests.
- 4:46With Tesla's ambitions and self driving tech secured, an
- 4:49invidious high-powered chips is critical, and Wang acknowledged
- 4:54Tesla's leadership in autonomous vehicles, indicating a mutual
- 4:57respect. And despite their occasional
- 5:00disagreements, such as Musk's skepticism about the ease of
- 5:03creating neural networks with NVIDIA chips, both leaders share
- 5:06a relentless drive for progress. Now the CEO of Perplexity AI
- 5:12highlighted this trait, using Musk as an example of overcoming
- 5:15obstacles through determination and working hard to get things
- 5:18done. But Huang's unconventional
- 5:21management style, including avoiding unnecessary one-on-one
- 5:24meetings, is designed to maintain agility and quick
- 5:27information flow within his company of NVIDIA.
- 5:30This approach has garnered approval from Musk and other
- 5:33high level CE OS, and they reflect the shared commitment to
- 5:37effective leadership. Now, this philosophy that no
- 5:41task is beneath the leader continues to guide his actions
- 5:44and inspire employees. His ability to show that he's
- 5:48still connected with every level of the company and with every
- 5:50employee from direct reports to frontline workers exemplifies
- 5:55his hands on approach and his dedication to the company of
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