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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 1_ EPISODE #165_ HOST QUEEN ANGELA · DA CREW Podcast

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  Get featured. Hey, Hey, Hey, y'all, Hey, y'all,
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  welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of the Group podcast. Tonight it
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  is prison Wise and Girlfriends, y'all. I'm excited to be able to allow
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  individuals to come on and share. Y'all know that I am a advocate for
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  those that are incarcerated, and I hold this near and dear to my heart
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  for those that do not know me. Before I jump in I am effectually
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  known as the Queen of Collaborations. My name is Angela Thomas Smith. I
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  am the visionary behind the Crew podcast as well as the visionary of Aspiring Authors
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  magazine and aa LAC, which is the African American Author Literacy Awareness Campaign.
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  And I just truly believe that in order to see change, we have to
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  be that change that we want to see in this world. So that's our
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  motto over here on the podcast. And I want to thank you guys for
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  tuning in tonight for another episode. We are episode one hundred and sixty five,
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  y'all, one hundred and sixty five. Again, I tell you,
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  I have truly truly enjoyed this journey, y'all. People think we've been doing
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  this forever, but we just started this in February, and I am excited
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  about what God is doing in twenty twenty four. But tonight, I tell
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  you I'm excited about this show. We have some individuals that are married to
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  individuals that's incarcerated. They're gonna have an opportunity to share their perspective about being
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  a prison wife and well how that works and anything that is laid on their
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  heart tonight. So I want you guys to share this in your circle of
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  influence, because you never know what the next person may be in need of.
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  You never know what resources of what someone may need. So I'm going
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  to move out the way and I'm going to allow my guests, Missus Johnson
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  to introduce herself. Hello, Welcome, Welcome, How are you? I
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  am Brave. My name is Shenette Johnson and I live in California. My
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  husband is currently incarcerated in Denver, Colorado. He's been in prison for the
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  last fourteen years. He was wrongfully convicted of a crime that he didn't commit.
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  Wow. Wow, And I know that can be rough. I know
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  that that can be rough. So what has this journey been like for you?
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  Well, I actually we just got on a journey with him a year
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  ago. We dated as teenagers and over the years we we went our separate
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  ways, and last year we finally reconnected and we kind of hit it off,
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  and then we just went on and just got married. And I've been
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  on this journey, I learned a lot with about wrong for andcarcination. Fifty
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  three percent of the population that's wrongfully convicted, our minority men, and it
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  takes them almost like serving like thirty two years to to almost their life to
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  get asonerated and compared to another ethnic group. So I'm I'm learning a lot
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  on you know, just basically how the system is treating our men. Are
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  also seeing a couple of women that was in prisoned on wrangfully convicted where they
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  actually are not giving the right report represent like people to represent them, and
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  it's just like they throw them up under the bus and they have to fight
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  for their life to come out. And that's sad. I tell you.
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  It wasn't until about I want to say about four or five years ago that
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  I really realized that this was really happening. You know, we've been taught
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  to trust the judicial process and to trust the system, the justice system,
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  because it's supposed to work well. In recent years, I say, the
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  last decade or so, we found out that that is not so true.
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  And we can go all the way back and sit all the way back to
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  when slavery ended, and I keep telling people, you know, a lot
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  of us were setting our ways and we believe what we've been taught, but
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  a lot of us need to unlearn a lot of the stuff that we have
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  learned throughout these years. Because we've learned a lot of incorrect stuff and we
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  become educated about the law. And it's not hard, like we just got
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  to read because they put a lot of stuff in these books, and then
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  they write stuff a certain way just so we won't get involved, because they
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  think that we don't like to read. But I'm here to tell them this
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  is a new horizon because it got some years and some writers over here.
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  We love to read and we love to write. But it just disheartens me
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  of a lot of the things that's going on. I'm not familiar with Oklahoma,
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  Colorado. I'm not familiar with Colorado, but I know that and in
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  Texas, in California or two other the top states for wrongfully incarcerated and incinery
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  and and exoneration. I say Texas in California before you connect to see who
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  gonna win. Yeah, So that just lets me know who's the most corrupt
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  states it is and make me want to stay away from them. But if
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  you would, would you like to share a little bit about your husband's story
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  to bring some light to it so that those that are tuned in can really
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  get an idea of what is really happening in the judicial system. And maybe
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  if there's someone out there that have some legal expertise or know of some different
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  ways that they may can assist, please share with us so that we can
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  help how we can. Well, he was his first trial ended in a
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  mistrial because they didn't have no evidence. In his second trial, the day
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  they went to pick the the jury, it was a protest out in front
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  of the courthouse. The DA had put on a protest for murdered victims and
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  they released doves and the families came and they did impact stories. So everyone
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  that went to court that week was convicted of whatever they went the court for,
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  if it was murder or whatever they went, they got convicted. Up
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  my husband when doing his trial, he he was, oh, okay,
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  let me get it. I'm I'm a lirivous and I told he was found
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  guilty of first degree felony murder. But he was acquitted of first degree murder.
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  And with that the how to run for conviction came in was they did
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  not charge him with a felony. Under Colorado law, in order to get
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  a felony murder case, you have to have an underlying condition, which is
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  breath kidnapping. Anything felony has to tizing that murder and he was never tried,
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  he was never charged with underlying felony. So that's where the wrong for
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  conviction come in. And throughout all his appeals, they keep telling him,
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  you know, use the law, you know, use the law. So
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  he's giving them back the law, what the law states, and they keep
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  saying, they keep denigning, denigning, denigning, and you know it's just
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  like he's getting starting to get frustrated, like what what am I supposed to
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  do? They telling me to use the law, and I'm giving them back
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  the law and well, no, it's not written like that. Well it
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  is written like that if you if you're writing it right out the book is
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  it's a mess. How they treating him over there? Wow? And and
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  they doing they're doing it to a lot of people. When I tell you
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  a lot of people, I'm telling you I have a list of about fifty
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  almost sixty individuals in Texas, and how they have done those individuals you talk
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  about all white jurors, you talk about all Hispanic juror you talking about those
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  are not my peers. My peers look like me. If I am a
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  black female, then my peers would be black females or other white females that
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  may be in my age group. You know, if you're gonna do diverse,
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  but you have to have someone that look like me. How can you
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  say a representation of me if they don't even look like me. So,
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  if they don't look like me, then how could they even begin to even
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  put themselves in my place to even think like me? You know, if
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  you're not ending anything that I've been doing, how can you even relate to
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  me? You know, that's one of the things that I have an issue
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  with about. You know, these all white juries, these are Hispanish.
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  First thing is, you know a lot of them, they look at us
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  and they already they've already stereotyped us. They they've already stigmatized us. They've
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  already placed these different things on us, and they've already counted us out.
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  You know, a lot of us. We got to go back. We
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  got to go back to when slavery ended, supposedly, when it ended supposedly
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  publicly. You know, they now have slavery in private through our prison system
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  because if you look at the amount of prisons that do not pay their workers,
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  and then some of these people are holding jobs like the job that we
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  hold on the outside. They packing these people up on these buses and transporting
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  them to plants, transporting them to different places, and they going in clocking
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  in just like regular people. So who's getting the money? Yeah, we
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  having to send money put here, a little putting money on their book,
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  putting money on this on that, you know, So what is the money
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  from the labor that they it is going into. And then they have mm
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  hmm. And then they are not a million dollar industry, but it's a
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  big dollar They say it's a big dollar moving into a trillion dollar industry.
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  Now, yes it is, Yes it is. And you know they also
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  what I have seen is that they they're medicating them, They offering on medicine,
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  you know, giving them medicated just oh you need something to numb the
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  pain or you know, if you if you get a life without possibility,
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  they automatically think that you need to be on psych medicine or you know,
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  and and I'm asking him what word you know, how do you know this
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  man is you know he have a mental problem. Why do you know every
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  black man that goes in there need to be medicated. That's their way to
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  control, that's their way you know, and then they do a lot of
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  testing. You know, that's the easy way to do scientific testing on our
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  people. You know, you look at I'm telling people, you've got to
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  follow the trail of a lot of things. You follow the money trail,
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  and you can follow where a lot of this stuff is going and who's getting
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  the keepbacks, Who's who's head of all of this because somebody getting keeps back?
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  You know. I often, since I'm working with a lot of the
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  in Texas, I often google corruption in Texas, and every single day it's
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  like something new pops up. But my whole thing is, if we know
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  that all these things are going on, why have we not been doing something
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  about it? Now that I know? And and once you know, you
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  you you just can't sit still and not do anything at all. But now
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  that I know, I have to speak out. I have to speak up,
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  you know, and I have to let people know that this is happening
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  and we cannot be quiet. We cannot be quiet. I would love to
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  know how can we how can we support your husband? Do he have emotions
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  up before the court? Is there anything that you know? I know a
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  lot of people talk about writing the legislating and writing I know here in January.
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  Coming up in January, we're gonna be doing some rallies down in Texas.
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  We're gonna start in San Antonio, and we're gonna be doing a couple
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  of different rallies where we're hoping we're gonna march to the city hall and then
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  we're gonna have a rally in front of the city hall, and we're gonna
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  have like a little community event where we're gonna just be bringing people together and
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  different organizations that you know, that work on the behalf of justice for people
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  that are wrongfully and overly incarcerated. Hopefully they will come out and be able
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  to, you know, shed some light on different things. But most importantly,
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  I want to address those people that are in authority, starting with the
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  government. All these people need to be held accountable. It's too many people
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  that they have said that if this is this, then this shouldn't be and
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  you shouldn't be inc that this is this and this is that, and that
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  this person should be incarcerated. Why can't you walk over, Why can't you
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  walk over and tell the person that has the power to to make this happen,
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  And why can't y'all make it happen. Why must we continually go back
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  and forth? I got I got four And then you listen at these lawyers.
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  They want one hundred thousand dollars for what. You're not even guaranteed that
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  you're gonna get your loved one out. You just want my money. And
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  then I listened to all these people like and what they've done to these Mexicans.
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  It's just crazy. It is just crazy, like they will just use
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  them because they figured they got money, because they know there are some hardworking
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  people, and they extort them, extort them because I'm listening to a lot
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  of these stories, I mean just listening to their story. First, it
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  is the language barrier that gets a lot of them, and they just don't
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  know the lot. So they're putting all their trusts in the judicial system and
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  in the lawyers, and in the in the prosecution and then the judge,
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  and then they let them down. Now you tell me this happened. This
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  happened about three weeks ago in the Great State of Texas. So I have
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  a client that I work with, and I've been talking to his brother because
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  his brother got a case and it was a new case, and he kept
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  saying he kept saying that he was like, man, these people took me.
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  He said, these police stopped me. The county stopped me, and
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  they took me out my car and they took me to a church by behind
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  this church, it was some more police officers. It was about eight police
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  officers out there. He said, these people threw me on the ground and
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  they beat me and they tried to put drugs on me. Everybody said that
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  man was lying. Everybody said he was lying. Everybody said he was not
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  telling the truth. The judge, don't you know. The judge had tried
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  to get that man. What do he try to get him? He said,
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  if you take the plea, we'll give you ten to twenty five.
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  If you go to trial, you can get twenty five of life. Now
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  you know that these people lying, Yeah, and that's what they uh,
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  that's what they did to my husband. He said that when he was getting
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  out the when they he was setting up because he has his own business and
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  he was setting up and they didn't have no no warrant for his arrests.
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  Then they took him down there. They because he wouldn't say like implicate somebody,
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  they gave him the charges and the man told him, Uh huh,
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  you know, just laughed in his face. Oh we got you, we
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  got you, and he said, what you got me for? I ain't
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  did nothing. And so when he went to trial and they the first trial,
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  like I said, was a mistrial. Then the second trial they found
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  they acquitted him a murder after deliberation, but then they found him guilty of
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  first degree felony murdered without a and they didn't have no felay to tie with
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  the murder. So you know, how can that stand when they lost saying
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  that they needed a felony to go with the murder. And the guy got
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  on the stand said that the witness that the quote unquote the DA got they
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  cut a deal with this guy. He was supposed to do fair time and
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  they kicked he didn't serve no time. But the guy that they put on
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  this said that Jyan Johnson did not rob me. And they still gave gave
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  my husband what the deal was, ten years, but he turned it down.
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  He said he wasn't taking nothing. He didn't do He wasn't He didn't
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  want to say that, you know, he didn't want to take it because
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  he didn't do it. So once they found him guilty of felony murdered.
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  That's when they gave the judge handed down life without the possibility of parole.
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  Wow, that's crazy. And we hear this, we hear this too often.
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  We hear this too often. Like I'm working with somebody. Now,
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  these people don't have no evidence. When I say no evidence, all the
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  evidence has been destroyed. So how can you convict somebody un destroyed evidence?
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  If you don't have evidence, how can you convict somebody? And then now
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  the state of Texas is in hot water because you got all these jewels.
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  So you got all these jewelers that have been a lot of them been locked
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  up since they fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. Now it's time for
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  a lot of these people to come up for parole. But they don't have
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  none of their records. They don't have none of the juvenile records unless you
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  just come in the system. If you are in your thirties, you and
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  your forty you know, did twenty something years or more, They don't have
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  your records. And then now they trying to get everybody to stay hush hush
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  about it because they know if people complain and people bring it to the knowledge
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  they're gonna have to open them all these cases again, and they're gonna bring
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  these people back before court. They're gonna have to bring them back before jeury.
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  They're gonna have to bring them back. They're gonna have a whole bunch
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  of cases because guess what they've been putting these people in prison left and right.
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  I got eight women over here right now that's been incarcerated since they was
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  fifteen and sixteen years old for stuff like because they was in a car with
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  their boyfriend. And you give them capital, you give them capital life.
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  How can everybody, how can everybody kill one person and only one person?
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  Patrick? How can you give everybody to say large? Think and you know
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  what they're doing? And it takes me, It takes me back to I
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  was in Washington a week ago and I had a chance to go to one
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  of the museums and they had I'm trying to find it real quick so I
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  can share with you back in let me see, let me see if I
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  got it. Back in nineteen forty four, when they executed George Stanley Junior,
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  the fourteen year old they executed him. They said that he that he
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  killed two white girls and within eighty days of them being arrested, he was
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  executed. He was the first He was the youngest black person to be executed
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  at the age of fourteen. And that's what they do to us right all
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  the time. Like it's so many people. The state of Texas ranked the
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  highest in exoneration and execution. This is too. So many people have lost
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  their life innocently that they've been innocent. But they're sitting on on on death
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  row. And you got innocent people right now. That is sick right in
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  prison that and in the court, the court has said in some cases that
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  these people are innocent. They got it on paper. They're saying that they
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  are innocent and that they should not be locked up. But then you go
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  back and you present this to the state, you present this to whoever they
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  want to say that this ain't in their jurisdiction. This is beyond their jurisdiction.
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  Who jurisdiction is it? You know what I mean? If you want
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  to be technical, everybody want technical, everybody really want to be technical.
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  If you go back and you really read the US Constitution, it is illegal
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  for them to even lock people up. We're not even supposed to be blocking
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  people up in the state, but we don't push it because we don't know
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  flow of us don't even know the US Constitution. But that is in the
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  US Constitution. That is in the US Constitution. So a lot of this
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  how these different states and these different judicial branches are operating and doing stuff should
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  not be happening. And see a lot of people know now that we need
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  and see they getting scared, and they consteatic trying to come up with different
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  laws and different stuff. And see they keep putting distractions out here before us.
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  So we get distracted by so much that we won't even be knowing what
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  these people doing while they putting different laws in the place you talk. September
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  the first, the state of Texas put seven hundred and forty four laws on
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  their book. Now, how many people in the state of that seven hundred
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  past not not one person can say that they knew that seven hundred dollars passed.
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  I can guarantee you some of them affected them. You know, listen
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  to people often to listen to people talk about they don't vote in their local
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  election. Your local election is what get those people to their White House.
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  They give those people to the state house. If you're not voting locally,
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  then anybody getting in there, and then anybody can go and represent you in
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  the state. Because I'm sitting there looking at I look at all these people.
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  Know you want the right person to represent you at home, so that
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  you know. And just because they look like us, don't mean that they
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  are fucking you. Got a lot of them, they say they for us,
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  and they vote the opposite direction. Mm. A lot of these congress
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  me and pungless women. They are like share but when you write them about
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  something and they hands is tied. If your hands is now, you can't
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  do what we need you to do as the people. Then we need to
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  vote. They butts out and we need to get somebody else in there.
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  It's what need to be done because it's too many of us, too many
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  of us. Because I had I had written and they they oh, they
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  like kind of push it out, sweep, sweep it up under the rug.
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  Well he needs to do this. Well he did that, you know.
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  But do you guys keep saying use the law. And when we use
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  the law, it it's not for us. I guess it's not for us.
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  It's for everybody else, but it's not for for us. Colorado did
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  re like re like write the felony murdered law, and they turned it into
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  a a class two felony, so you have like they're not sentencing with life
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  without the possibility, but the ones that's in there, they can't go back
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  and use the new law. They said it's not rector actors for them.
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  And then one of the councilmen said that I forgot is his name. He
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  said that he rewritten the law because the like the teenagers up to you thirty
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  years old, they're redeemable. So if you older than thirty, you're not
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  redeemable, redeemable, you just a lost cause. Like first they don't know
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  you want to try these babies ass adults. You know, you know ahead
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  of time that these kids before they reached twenty one, twenty five, whichever,
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  one day to realize that they still babies, that they still thinking as
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  children, that they not reached that adult mindset yet. But yet you charge
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  them as adults. Then if you know that they have are rehabilitatable, if
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  you know they can be rehabilitated, then put these programs in place and rehabilitate
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  them. But in State of Texas don't even believe, they don't care how
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  old you are. They don't believe that you can be rehabilitated, Greg Abbott,
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  do not believe that you can be rehabilitated. They do not have programs.
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  Most people that have been rehabilitated within the TDCJ have rehabilitated themselves. They
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  have come up with their own programs and they have began to work on their
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  own selves because they want to get back out and be productive citizens. You
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  know a lot of these people have been fighting, fighting, fighting. You
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  talking about twenty five thirty three years of being and wrongfully and overly incarcerated,
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  and they're not gonna stamp into their home. Yeah. When they home,
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  the state of Texas gonna have hell to pay, so they as well get
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  ready. Yeah, and I think that's what it is. Well, repeat
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  that, How can we support how can we support your husband? Is there
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  anything that we can do from the outside to kind of help bring some light
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  to what's going on with his Well, he has a chain dot org Juan
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  Johnson change dot org. You know, he been pushing that, We've been
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  pushing at this signature and he also we also have a Facebook page up where
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  you can follow it and get more information on his case. I usually try
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  to post keep everybody up to date on what's going on. But two weeks
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  ago, I found my son non responsive in his room when I was leaving
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  to go to Denver. So I'm in the midst of getting ready to lay
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  him the rest and still working trying to bring light to my husband's situation to
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  get him home because right now is the It's when I really need him here
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  with me because I'm doing this all by myself. Wow. Well, I
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  definitely want you to know that you were in our prayers. We're here the
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  crew podcasts and we're praying for you. Thank you and your family, So
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  know that you have you have us praying for you. But yeah, if
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  you would, if you just me those links and stuff, I definitely would
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  share them out and make sure that they'll post it on our social media site
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  so that people can see them as well. But I definitely I want to
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  thank you for pressing your way and coming on and and just sharing. You're
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  welcome to come back anytime. I'm not gonna keep you going tonight, but
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  know that you're welcome to come back anytime. I'm right here every fourth Monday
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  other month, So if you want to come back by You're more than welcome
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  to come back and share again. How can people follow you and stay connected
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  to you? The number is uh I mean the group name is jan Johnson
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  Wrongfully Convicted on Facebook or you can just follow me on Schennette white Side on
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  a Facebook. All right, Well, again, I want to thank you
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