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#515 The Pursuit of Happiness · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
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Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
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Speaker 2: Now, lower your expectations. Like they're kids. You don't know
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Speaker 2: how to regulate their behaviors. They don't know how to
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Speaker 2: get along with their siblings. They don't know how to
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Speaker 2: switch the screens off without being asked five thousand times.
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Speaker 2: Lower your expectations. Expect that it's going to be hard.
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Speaker 2: Expect that if your patient compassionate, gentle, and persistent and consistent,
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Speaker 2: that eventually you'll get there. Give it eighteen years or
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Speaker 2: so on, you'll be right.
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Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, My mum
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Speaker 1: and dad.
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Speaker 2: Hello, everyone. This is doctor Justin Coulson, the author of
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Speaker 2: six books about making families happier. In fact, I've just
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Speaker 2: finished my seventh book. It's gone through the editing process
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Speaker 2: and it's going to be out in time for Father's Day.
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Speaker 2: I'm so excited Book number seven. Kylie, you said I'd
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Speaker 2: taken on too much at the start of the year,
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Speaker 2: and I said, I can do this. We can move house,
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Speaker 2: I can acquire a second business and recruit new stuff,
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Speaker 2: and I can write two extra books this year. And
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Speaker 2: we're on track. It's happening. Oh and we can we're
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Speaker 2: doing it is life when there is that much going on.
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Speaker 3: Ah, your definition of fun and mine are very different.
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Speaker 2: But in light of our conversation, day time poor parenting.
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Speaker 3: Fails to amaze me at what you can accomplish when
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Speaker 3: you put your mind to it.
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Speaker 2: Just so exciting. Do you think that I'm a fun guy.
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about a specific kind of mushroom here,
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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that I'm a fun kind
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Speaker 2: of person? I got a joke. I got a joke.
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Speaker 2: I got a joke because I'm such a fun guy.
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Speaker 1: Huh.
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Speaker 2: Okay, because you know I'm doing some ptea at the moment.
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Speaker 2: I said to my pt the other day, can you
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Speaker 2: teach me to do the splits? And she said, how
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Speaker 2: flexblay you? And I said, I can't make tuesdays? How
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Speaker 2: bad is that? Okay, let's move on. Did you read
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Speaker 2: in the paper the police rested a couple of kids yesterday.
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Speaker 2: I was drinking battery acid. The other one was eating fireworks.
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Speaker 2: He charged one, he let the other one off. Hey,
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Speaker 2: we need to talk about our conversation for today because
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Speaker 2: it ties in with my terrible sense of humor. He
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Speaker 2: charged one. Yes, that Reid five words. I get it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, you know it's not funny if you have to explain.
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Speaker 2: I know, I know. So today's conversation is whether or
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Speaker 2: not we can be happier as parents.
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Speaker 3: It's interesting that we're talking about this because I had
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Speaker 3: this very experience the other day in the car with
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Speaker 3: the kids on the way to school. It had not
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Speaker 3: been a good start to the day. We have a
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Speaker 3: we've had good starts every day we've had We've got
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Speaker 3: a pre teen who is Yeah, she's a bit of
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Speaker 3: a fire cracker at the moment, and.
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Speaker 2: We're going to let her off. Oh gosh.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, she was very, very moody the other morning,
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Speaker 3: and I had just kind of reached my end, and
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Speaker 3: so there was not any talking happening in the car.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was Tuesday morning. You were cranky, and you
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Speaker 2: were not a happy parent.
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Speaker 3: I was not a happy parent at all. But I
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Speaker 3: had watched a movie a few days earlier where one.
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Speaker 2: Of the women in what was the movie? Just tell
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Speaker 2: us a movie?
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Speaker 3: I don't remember, oh god, but one of the women
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Speaker 3: in the story was had this really big fake smile
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Speaker 3: on yep, and the lady she was talking to said,
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Speaker 3: you know, why are you so happy? And she says, oh, no,
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Speaker 3: I just read somewhere that if I smile long enough,
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Speaker 3: I can trick my brain into thinking I'm happy. And
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Speaker 3: she's got this ridiculous fake smile on her face, and
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Speaker 3: obviously the story proves that she's not happy at all,
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Speaker 3: and she's a very miserable person. But it just as
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Speaker 3: I was sitting in the car and I was thinking
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Speaker 3: about the fact that I get to choose in this
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Speaker 3: moment how I'm going to be, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: maybe if I just try it, And so I literally
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Speaker 3: sat in the car at the red light, and I
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Speaker 3: put on the biggest fakeers smile and it felt so
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Speaker 3: awkward on my face, like it just felt ridiculous, and
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Speaker 3: I just happened to look in the mirror and I
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Speaker 3: took one look at myself. I was like, this is ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: And I sat there for a bit longer. But the meantime,
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Speaker 3: the girls had put a song on the radio which
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Speaker 3: was just a little bit funky, and I found myself
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Speaker 3: doing the smile again, and I looked in the mirror
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Speaker 3: and then I kind of I felt my body like
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Speaker 3: wiggle a little bit to the music, and all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, there.
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Speaker 2: Was just this instant feel good. I was so cranky.
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Speaker 3: The morning had been awful, but just that one thing
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Speaker 3: changed the mood instantly, and it took me a little.
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Speaker 3: I didn't say anything in the car, like I didn't.
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Speaker 2: The kids didn't even know where I.
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Speaker 3: Was at at that moment.
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Speaker 2: They were still too scared.
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Speaker 3: I don't say that, But within half a song, I'd
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Speaker 3: gone from being just stewing over how awful the morning
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Speaker 3: had been to Gosh, I love my kids.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I love them. They drive me crazy, but I
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Speaker 2: love them.
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Speaker 3: And I was so grateful that in that moment I
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Speaker 3: was driving them to school and I was going to
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Speaker 3: get out of the car and give them a big
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Speaker 3: hug and let them go off to school.
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Speaker 2: And did you I did oh, And it was just.
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Speaker 3: Such a nice way, which it could have been the
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Speaker 3: complete opposite. You know, the kids could have jumped out
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Speaker 3: of the car and run away now and that you
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Speaker 3: know they were going to get any soft, warm fuzzies
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Speaker 3: from mum. But instead just making that one ridiculous decision
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Speaker 3: to do the biggest fake smile that felt like it
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Speaker 3: did like literally felt awkward on my face. It felt
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Speaker 3: so ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: What I just have to do was a radio our sir,
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Speaker 2: turn on the microphone and smile. Literally put a great,
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Speaker 2: big smile plus across your face, no matter how silly
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Speaker 2: it looks, because people can hear when you're smiling, and
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Speaker 2: they can hear when you're not. See what I did there?
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Speaker 2: Could you hear the difference in tone I was smiling
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Speaker 2: and now I'm not. I'm just putting it out of there.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so everyone knows one of us smiles and
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Speaker 3: one of us doesn't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So the reason for this podcast, though,
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Speaker 2: is how to be happy as a parent. This is
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Speaker 2: a podcast for a time poor parent who just wants
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Speaker 2: fake smile.
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Speaker 3: Ladies, just fake smile.
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Speaker 2: Dad's listened to this too.
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Speaker 3: Well, you fake smile all the time.
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Speaker 2: I do because it makes me feel great. Now, there's
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Speaker 2: a serious side to this. We want to recognize before
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Speaker 2: we share these ideas that sometimes life is hard. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: it's really hard to find the joy, the smile, the
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Speaker 2: find the way through the difficulties, the tediousness, the mud
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Speaker 2: that it feels like you're dragging yourself through. And we
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Speaker 2: also want to recognize that research does show that there's
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Speaker 2: a negative relationship between having children and being happy. That is,
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Speaker 2: as you have more children and as those children grow up,
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Speaker 2: your well being tends to drop off. It's a well
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Speaker 2: established relationship that we've known about in the scientific research
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Speaker 2: for three maybe four decades now. So what I get.
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Speaker 3: What I get from what you're saying, though, is we're
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Speaker 3: not suggesting that there's a band aid fixed when life
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Speaker 3: is really hard. There's an acknowledgment that life's really hard.
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Speaker 2: Sure, but we're also going to highlight in this podcast
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Speaker 2: that there are any number of things. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: share seven things that we can do. Seven I'm going
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Speaker 2: to do it quickly. Seven things that we can do
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Speaker 2: to make ourselves happier or to make our families happier,
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Speaker 2: and to feel better as a parent. I mean that's
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Speaker 2: the topic of the podcast, right, how do you be
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Speaker 2: a happier parent? Well, these ideas will help. If they
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Speaker 2: don't help, it may be necessary to go and get
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Speaker 2: some professional help, going and see a psychologist, talk with
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Speaker 2: your GP, talk to a mental health career who can
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Speaker 2: give you the appropriate guidance. But absolutely you can be
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Speaker 2: a happier parent. After the break, I'm going to share
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Speaker 2: those seven ways that you can do Family life is
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Speaker 2: pretty tough going sometimes most days are a struggle between
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Speaker 2: strong willed children and frazzled parents. But it can be better.
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Speaker 2: The twenty one Days to a Happier Family program is
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Speaker 2: designed for busy parents who want a calmer, happier family,
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Speaker 2: and it can be done with evidence based strategies and
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Speaker 2: practices that really work in twenty one days. All resources
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Speaker 2: are available for your family for twenty one Days to
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Speaker 2: a Happier Family at happy families dot com dot au.
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Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families podcast, the podcast for a time
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Speaker 3: poor parent who just wants answers. Now you've suggested, you've
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Speaker 3: got seven things, and you're going to do it really quick.
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Speaker 3: I don't reckon you can do it.
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Speaker 2: Number one, Make the decision, literally, make the decision to
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Speaker 2: be happier. What we often forget is that we are
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Speaker 2: not victims of our circumstance. We are not the victim
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Speaker 2: of our twelve year old who is a preteen, who
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Speaker 2: is irritable, who is pre menstrual, and who wants to
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Speaker 2: destroy the family this morning. Her mood doesn't have to
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Speaker 2: affect me, and so I just don't let it. I
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Speaker 2: get to choose. I make the decision. I choose. She
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Speaker 2: can't make me irritable, she can't make me upset, she
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Speaker 2: can't make me angry, she can't make me anything at
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Speaker 2: all if I don't let her. She's not that powerful
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Speaker 2: in my life. I love it like crazy. I want
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Speaker 2: her to be well, and I'll do everything I can
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Speaker 2: to help her. But ultimately, I'm not going to walk
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Speaker 2: out of the room miserable because she's miserable.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but some people just manage to work through emotions
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Speaker 3: a lot faster. It's not one of my skill sets.
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Speaker 3: It takes me a little while to kind of work
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Speaker 3: through the emotion that I'm feeling. And part of that
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Speaker 3: comes down to actually recognizing what I'm feeling.
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Speaker 2: And of course you've got to be aware of it,
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Speaker 2: and then you've got to regulate it.
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Speaker 3: But that was what happened in the car the other morning.
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Speaker 3: It was just that recognition I'm a real crank, and
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Speaker 3: I actually don't need to be a real crank direct
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Speaker 3: and she does and have the power to make me cranky.
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Speaker 3: This is a choice that I'm making. But it took
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Speaker 3: me a while to get from I'm a crank to
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Speaker 3: recognizing that I actually have control over.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that comes down to practice. And there's also
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Speaker 2: another I've had lots of practice. Well, there's a second
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Speaker 2: part of this here, and that is and this is
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Speaker 2: my second suggestion. Not only can they not make you
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Speaker 2: feel a certain way, but if you're allowing them to,
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Speaker 2: it's because your egos in the way. It's all about pride.
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Speaker 2: So get your ego out of the way. Get your
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Speaker 2: pride out of the way. Don't feel like you've got
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Speaker 2: to respond a certain way because that's how they are
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Speaker 2: and this is the expectation, and I've got to respect
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Speaker 2: myself and forget it. Like, if the kids are having
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Speaker 2: allows your time, I'll give them a hug, I'll be compassionate,
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Speaker 2: I'll sit there and say we can talk about this.
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Speaker 2: If they're being disobedient, I'm disrespectful. I can work through
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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff with them as a parent.
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Speaker 2: But my real job is to say, you're having a
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Speaker 2: tough time right now, and I'm here to support you
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Speaker 2: in that. But it doesn't mean I've got to have
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Speaker 2: a tough time too. You're being disrespectful right now. You're
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Speaker 2: not following you're not following our family values and principles.
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Speaker 2: I get it, you don't like what it's going on,
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Speaker 2: but I don't have to get myself in a tears
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Speaker 2: in a fix. I don't have to drag myself down
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Speaker 2: as well just because that's how you are. I can.
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Speaker 2: It's actually about getting rid of the ego, not getting
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Speaker 2: invested in it, and saying I get that's where you are,
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Speaker 2: but I'm not going to play there.
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Speaker 3: It's creating emotional distance without being emotionally distanced from your child.
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Speaker 2: I love the way you said that. That's excellent. I
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Speaker 2: feel like I need to write that down. Creating the
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Speaker 2: distance emotionally without creating the distance between you and your child. Yeah, yeah, beautiful.
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Speaker 2: My third idea for how to be happier as a
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Speaker 2: parent Lower your expectations. Like their kids. They don't know
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Speaker 2: how to regulate their behaviors. They don't know how to
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Speaker 2: regulate their emotions. They don't know how to manage their
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Speaker 2: time and their priorities. They don't know how to get
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Speaker 2: along with their siblings. They don't know how to switch
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Speaker 2: the screens off without being asked five thousand times. Lower
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Speaker 2: your expectations. Expect that it's going to be hard. Expect
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Speaker 2: that it's going to take AGES, expect that if your
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Speaker 2: patient compassionate, gentle, and persistent and consistent, that eventually you'll
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Speaker 2: get there. Give it eighteen years or so one you'll
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Speaker 2: be right now. I'm not suggesting that we should accept
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Speaker 2: mediocrity here. What I'm suggesting, though, is when our expectations
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Speaker 2: are lower, we're much more easily satisfied and surprised, and
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Speaker 2: if things don't work out, we're much less likely to
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Speaker 2: be angry about it or upset about it or sad
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Speaker 2: about it, which like, Okay, they're kids, they make mistakes,
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Speaker 2: that's how it goes. So that's my third idea. What's
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Speaker 2: number four? Create time affluence? If you want to be
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Speaker 2: happier as a parent, stop being in such a rush
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Speaker 2: all the time. Now, we had that podcast about it
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Speaker 2: on Monday, about finding more time in your day, so
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk more about it, but i
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Speaker 2: want to refer people back to Monday's pot if you
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Speaker 2: missed it. I think it was one of the best
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Speaker 2: and most important podcasts we've done in AGES. And I
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Speaker 2: know that when when I have more time in my
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Speaker 2: day and I'm not staring at my screen to fill
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Speaker 2: that time in but I'm connecting with my kids or
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Speaker 2: with you, life is awesome. So create create time affluence.
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Speaker 2: That's idea number four.
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Speaker 3: Number five.
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Speaker 2: This one is a special one just for dads. It
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Speaker 2: applies to mums as well, but mums do this all
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Speaker 2: the time and sometimes they can get a bit burned
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Speaker 2: out by it. But dads probably need to do this more.
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Speaker 2: When we look at the research around this, it's pretty
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Speaker 2: profoundly important. Sacrificing for your kids makes you happy. And
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Speaker 2: so what researchers have discovered over the years is that
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Speaker 2: as a dad, the more invested you are, the more
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Speaker 2: time you give, the more effort you put forth, the
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Speaker 2: deeper your relationship, the more satisfying the bonds, and the
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Speaker 2: happier you are. It's that whole me time versus we
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Speaker 2: time thing. And so I'm going to argue, especially for dads,
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Speaker 2: but even for mums, invest in the relationship. And when
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Speaker 2: I say that, I don't mean spend more time cleaning
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Speaker 2: or tidying or cooking or ironing or washing or folding
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Speaker 2: or doing about.
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Speaker 3: That personal connection that you have.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So go for a walk along the beach with
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Speaker 3: your child, go play in the.
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Speaker 2: Chest, yeah whatever. Yep, Yep, that's it, And Kylie, I
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Speaker 2: can't say this with enough emphasis. It's really about the
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Speaker 2: quality of the connection and put the phones away. Like
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Speaker 2: I've been making a really big deal about this lately
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Speaker 2: on the podcast, but I'm watching What Happens when the
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Speaker 2: other day, I was trying to read an article that
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Speaker 2: was really important to me. I really wanted to get
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Speaker 2: through it. And Emily, our eight year old, said, Dad,
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Speaker 2: can we play chess? And it took so much for
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Speaker 2: me to put the phone down immediately and say, sure,
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Speaker 2: let's play chess. I didn't want to. I don't even
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Speaker 2: like chess, but she loves it, and I put the
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Speaker 2: device down and we just had so much fun and
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Speaker 2: she nearly beat me, like my eight year age. She
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Speaker 2: was amazing about it, so much fun, And I was
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Speaker 2: so glad because the article really doesn't matter and I
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Speaker 2: can read the article.
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Speaker 3: We can read the article just about.
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Speaker 2: Any time, but I can't play chess anytime with this
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Speaker 2: little kiddo.
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Speaker 3: But if you keep saying no, sooner or later, she's
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Speaker 3: going to stop asking.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So making the sacrifice for your kids to really connect.
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Speaker 2: It's particularly for dads that I'm saying this, But I
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Speaker 2: think that it applies as well for mums. Is a
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Speaker 2: way to actually make yourself happier. I got two more.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned one of them when you're in the car
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Speaker 2: the other day. Music. Just get something to get those
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Speaker 2: toes tapping, gets those shoulders bopping, It will make you happier.
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Speaker 2: And my last one look after yourself. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I had a few things and you didn't actually say
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Speaker 3: any of them really, And the last one was making
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Speaker 3: time for yourself. I know that I am one hundred
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Speaker 3: percent happier when I actually stick to my routine and
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Speaker 3: give myself a little bit of time out. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 3: I like to go for a walk along the beach
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Speaker 3: in the mornings. That's my time. And I just loved
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Speaker 3: the other morning when I came home from my walk
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Speaker 3: and you were sitting at the table with Emily playing chess.
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Speaker 3: It was just it was amazing. It felt like we
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Speaker 3: were on the same team. I got to do the
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Speaker 3: things that I needed to do to rejuvenate and feel
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Speaker 3: replenished and ready to go about my day. And I
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Speaker 3: knew that Emily and you were going to be able
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Speaker 3: to have that time together. And she just thought it
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Speaker 3: was awesome because she's learning some pretty cool moves at
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Speaker 3: chess club.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The other two things that really stood out to me
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Speaker 3: as I have kind of gone through parenting is surrounding
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Speaker 3: yourself with happy people. Oh yeah, I think it's really important.
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Speaker 3: I found myself at certain times being kind of you know,
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Speaker 3: in groups where everyone just wants to wing and complain
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Speaker 3: and life is hard, and it's really important that you've
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Speaker 3: got safe people that you feel that you can share
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Speaker 3: your hard things with. It's good to have an outlet,
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Speaker 3: but if your focus is just always about that, then
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Speaker 3: it brings everybody down. So I have really made conscious
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Speaker 3: decisions to find people who just find joy in life
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Speaker 3: and we able to share our hard times together. But
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Speaker 3: that's not our emphasis. Our emphasis is finding the gold flex,
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Speaker 3: the joyful moments.
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Speaker 2: And what that emphasizes to me is that you've got
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Speaker 2: to make a conscious choice. What are you going to
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Speaker 2: talk about and how are you going to use it
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Speaker 2: to stimulate, to elevate, to energize, to inspire. Ultimately, this
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Speaker 2: whole conversation about how you can be happier as a
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Speaker 2: parent comes down to one word.
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Speaker 3: It's gratitude.
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Speaker 2: No, it's not gratitude but me, no, No, it's choice.
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Speaker 2: It's choice. We get to choose. We do in every
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Speaker 2: single situation. We get to choose, and we can choose
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Speaker 2: to be happy, or you can we choose to be miserable,
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Speaker 2: or you can choose to be.
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Speaker 3: Stressed sometimes because you'd really like to blame it on
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Speaker 3: somebody out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know that this can be
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Speaker 2: some really hard medicine to hear and swallow. And some
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Speaker 2: people are hearing this right now and going I'm just failing.
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Speaker 2: I'm absolutely failing. I get it, and I want to
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Speaker 2: have all the sympathy and the empathy in the world.
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Speaker 2: I've been there, I'm there regularly when I'm forgetting that
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Speaker 2: I have a choice all the time. Yep, yep, you are.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, But here's the critical thing. We get to choose,
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Speaker 2: And even if you're feeling horrible about it right now,
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Speaker 3: It really is, because when you're in a good space
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Speaker 3: and you can recognize that there's power. Yeah, it's empowering
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Speaker 3: to know that I get to make that decision.
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Speaker 2: The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin Ruland from
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