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Sharri | 3 December · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good Evening. Well, we've got just under
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Speaker 2: two weeks left until the Christmas break. That's seven shows
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Speaker 2: and you don't want to miss any of them. Coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight, Donald Trump putting Joe Biden too shame before
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Speaker 2: he's even in the White House's threatening to rain down
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Speaker 2: hell on America's enemies. James Patterson will join me to
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Speaker 2: discuss whether Alban Easy and Penny Wong should.
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Speaker 3: Take a leaf out of Trump's playbook.
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, the economist calling out Labour's reckless spending will
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Speaker 2: be on the show. Chris Richardson says families are getting
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Speaker 2: less as the taxman is getting more. That interview coming up,
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Speaker 2: and the academic who seems to be protected by Sydney
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Speaker 2: University despite a police investigation and threats made to hosts.
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Speaker 2: Here on Sky News, Carolyn Marcus will share her exclusive
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Speaker 2: with US Plus are much loved and famous Christmas light
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Speaker 2: displays under threat thanks to soaring power bills. I'll talk
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Speaker 2: about that a bit later on, and tonight a topic
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Speaker 2: close to my heart. A new United States report to
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Speaker 2: tay concluded that COVID originated in a wu hand lab
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Speaker 2: I'll speak about that with Ronman Bishop and kayleb Bond
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Speaker 2: in a moment also on the show Tonight Meet the
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Speaker 2: newest Liberal pre selected to try win back a seat
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Speaker 2: from a teal his first interview tonight. But now another
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Speaker 2: politician has come out today to accuse Albanezi of not
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Speaker 2: telling the full story on those environmental laws. We've been
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Speaker 2: speaking about how Albanzi torpedoed a deal that Tanya Plibisek
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Speaker 2: had done with the Greens. The Prime Minister denied a
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Speaker 2: deal had been done, acting as if Plebissek was from
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Speaker 2: another political party, not a senior cabinet Minister's.
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Speaker 4: Environment law was clearly a deal was either close or,
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Speaker 4: according to the Greens, was done.
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Speaker 2: They reckon you did.
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Speaker 5: Well say that no, we hadn't and they don't say
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Speaker 5: that David, there if no one in the Green says
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Speaker 5: that I agreed to it.
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Speaker 2: Clearly there was an agreement, it just wasn't with Albanizi himself,
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Speaker 2: it was with his minister. And now today more evidence
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Speaker 2: is building that Albanezi misled the public when he claimed
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Speaker 2: a deal hadn't been done. Independent Senator for the Act
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Speaker 2: David Pocock has come out to say that as far
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Speaker 2: as he was concerned a deal had been done.
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Speaker 6: I certainly thought we had a deal. Municipal sec was
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Speaker 6: a good faith negotiator in this. I thought we'd landed
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Speaker 6: at a point where where everyone was happy. And it's
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Speaker 6: incredibly disappointing that neither the Greens nor the PM seemed
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Speaker 6: to want to be able to sort of really prioritize this,
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Speaker 6: and I think internal party politics probably got in the way.
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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, clearly there was a
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Speaker 2: deal ready to be signed, sealed and delivered, but Albanezi
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Speaker 2: killed it off, realizing it would cost votes in Wa
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Speaker 2: after an intervention from Wa Premier Roger Cook. The laws
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Speaker 2: were radical and should never have gone ahead. But the
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Speaker 2: point is this is disunity at the highest level of
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Speaker 2: the Albanesi government. It's the prime minister undermining and gas
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Speaker 2: lighting a senior cabinet minister and its poor treatment of
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Speaker 2: a senior woman. The rift between Albanesi and Plibisek is
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Speaker 2: now causing internal angst in the Labor Party. But this
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Speaker 2: saga also shows how sketchy Albanzi can be with the truth,
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Speaker 2: how he doesn't feel the public necessarily has a right
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Speaker 2: to know the honest truth behind why some laws go
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Speaker 2: ahead and others don't. Remember this is the man who
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Speaker 2: promise to do politics differently, who promised transparency.
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Speaker 5: The truth is that where an open transparent party for
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Speaker 5: there needs to be complete transparency. What we need is
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Speaker 5: a prime minister who's prepared to be transparent, a more
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Speaker 5: honest and transparent a government going forward who will make
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Speaker 5: it transparent but being transparent.
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Speaker 2: But that was before the election campaign. Promises clearly don't count,
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Speaker 2: not as far as Albanzi is concerned. And today Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton is highlighting another broken promise that power bills would
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Speaker 2: be two hundred and seventy five dollars cheaper. He claims
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Speaker 2: it's been three years to the day that Albanisi made
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Speaker 2: this now failed promise, and.
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Speaker 5: He didn't just promise at once two hundred, two hundred
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Speaker 5: and two hundred and seventy.
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Speaker 1: Five DOLLARSS Labour set at ninety seven times before the
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Speaker 1: last election.
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Speaker 7: But what's he delivered.
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Speaker 1: Well, electricity prices are now up to one thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: more than what Labor promised.
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Speaker 2: Well, power bills and energy will be a key election
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Speaker 2: issue and if there are blackouts across Australia this summer,
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen and alban Easy will be held responsible and
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Speaker 2: it'll be yet another reason for voters to abandon alban Easy.
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Speaker 2: And this is on top of the growing list so far,
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Speaker 2: which includes government spending skyrocketing, and we'll talk about that
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Speaker 2: with Chris Richardson later, the cost of living crisis deepening
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Speaker 2: while countries around the world are emerging from the woods,
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Speaker 2: the Big Australia policy, the housing affordability crisis, and the
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Speaker 2: devastating issue of anti Semitism and lawlessness that's been compared
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Speaker 2: with nineteen thirties Europe. All of this under Albanesi's watch.
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Speaker 2: It's no wonder the coalition has now overtaken labor in newspot.
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Speaker 2: Albin Easy, you'd have to say, is a failed prime
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Speaker 2: minister who doesn't deserve to be sitting in the lodge.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has today come out swinging in full support
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Speaker 2: of the one hundred and one innocent hostages remaining in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: He has threatened that if the hostages aren't released by
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Speaker 2: January twenty, there will be hell to pay. He's said
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Speaker 2: on social media if the hostages are not released prior
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Speaker 2: to January twenty, twenty twenty five, that I proudly assume
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Speaker 2: office as president of the United States, there will be
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Speaker 2: all hell to pay in the Middle East, and for
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Speaker 2: those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity. He said,
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Speaker 2: those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been
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Speaker 2: hit in the long and storied history of the United
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Speaker 2: States of America. Well that's deterrence, and that's what strength
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Speaker 2: and determination looks like.
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Speaker 3: Well, you'd have to go.
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Speaker 2: Back and think what were the strongest words the current president,
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden ever said about the hostages. Mostly the attitude
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Speaker 2: of the Biden administration was to put pressure on Israel
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Speaker 2: for not doing enough to release them. There's been absurd
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Speaker 2: victim blaming. There was certainly more pressure on Israel than
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Speaker 2: on Hermas.
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Speaker 8: There the civilian suffering of the Palace any people, and finally, finally,
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Speaker 8: finally deliver a cease firing in this war.
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Speaker 9: For months, people all over the world have called for ceasefire.
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Speaker 9: I've consistently pressed for a pause in the fighting for
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Speaker 9: two reasons, to accelerate and expand humanitarian assistance going into Gaza,
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Speaker 9: and two to facilitate the release of hostages.
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Speaker 2: I mean just asking for a ceasefire, not demanding and
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Speaker 2: forcing as the leader of the free world, should that
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Speaker 2: the terrorists release the hostage, who, by the way, include
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Speaker 2: American citizens. And unlike Trump's clear threat to the barbaric
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Speaker 2: terrorists that they'd be hell to pay well, this was
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Speaker 2: Biden's weak message to Iran. Would surprisage to Iran in
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Speaker 2: this moment don't don't? And in his delusional state, perhaps
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Speaker 2: he thought his message resonated because he repeated it on
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Speaker 2: other occasions as well.
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Speaker 7: What is your.
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Speaker 9: Message to Hezbola and its backer Iran? Don't don't? Don't don't.
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Speaker 2: The Ayatolas of Iran were hardly quaking in their boots,
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Speaker 2: and in response to Biden's one word message, what did
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Speaker 2: Tehran do will? It launched unprecedented direct attacks on Israel,
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Speaker 2: including a barrage of two hundred ballistic missiles. Biden also
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Speaker 2: did everything he could to work against Israeli Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: Benjamin Netanyahu. Biden made demands that Netanyaho not go into Rafa,
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Speaker 2: where the hostages were being held. He demanded he let
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Speaker 2: Nozralla live. He demanded there be no ground invasion. This
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Speaker 2: despite the fact that four hundred and twenty three days on,
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Speaker 2: there are still one hundred hostages held captive by Hamas
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Speaker 2: and other terror groups in Gaza. They've been in the
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Speaker 2: dark dungeons, underground, starved, beaten, and some execute it. It's thought,
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Speaker 2: but we don't know for sure, that about half are
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Speaker 2: still alive. Those who are still there include baby Kafir,
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Speaker 2: his brother Ariel, and their mother. And it breaks my
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Speaker 2: heart to think of them. Baby Kaffir never even got
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Speaker 2: to celebrate his first birthday in the outside world before
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Speaker 2: he was dragged away by bloodthirsty terrorists to the hell
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Speaker 2: hell of underground tunnels. It's beyond devastating to think of that.
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Speaker 2: And yet no one speaks about the hostages. No one
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Speaker 2: does anything. When I was in Israel, I spoke to
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Speaker 2: two former hostages and they told me just how bad
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Speaker 2: the conditions were. One of them a sixty three year
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Speaker 2: old Aviva Siegel. She was kidnapped in her pajamas from
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Speaker 2: her bed. She said she could barely breathe in the tunnels.
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Speaker 10: The conditions were the worst conditions that you can think about.
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Speaker 10: I just thought that I'm going to die, that kid's
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Speaker 10: going to die.
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Speaker 2: She spoke about how Palestinian civilians celebrated as she was dragged,
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Speaker 2: terrified into Gaza.
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Speaker 3: She said it was like a party.
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Speaker 2: For them and her husband Keith is still captive and
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Speaker 2: she can only pray that he's alive and he's an
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Speaker 2: American citizen. By the way, the American President should have
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Speaker 2: done everything in his power to try and secure the
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Speaker 2: release of American hostages, but Biden hasn't, and more than
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Speaker 2: four hundred days on, Trump is now threatening brutal hell
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Speaker 2: if the hostages aren't released, and it's a threat he
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Speaker 2: made after having dinner with Israeli Prime Minister Nettiyahu's wife Sara,
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Speaker 2: and sanjayir At. Mari Lago and Sarah did discuss the
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Speaker 2: plight of the hostages at that dinner with Trump. It's
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Speaker 2: a strong signal that Trump and Neettiyahoo will be able
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Speaker 2: to work together to defeat terrorism, to bring home the hostages,
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Speaker 2: and to stop Iran's aggression. It's been long enough. Strong
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Speaker 2: action needs to be taken. We've been begging for international leadership,
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Speaker 2: and finally we're starting to see that leadership. We can
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Speaker 2: hope that this determination and strong approach from Trump has
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Speaker 2: a chance of working because Joe Biden's approach of appeasement,
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Speaker 2: of going softly softly with terrorists.
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Speaker 3: Well it was never going to work.
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Speaker 2: All right, Another big show ahead, as I said, Leading
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Speaker 2: economist Chris Richardson will join me live later on, plus
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Speaker 2: James Patterson and Carolyn Marcus all coming up. But now
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Speaker 2: let's bring in former Speaker of the House Bronwin Bishop
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Speaker 2: and steinhw's host Caleb Bond. Welcome to you both. Great
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Speaker 2: to see you, as always in a Tuesday brow. I
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Speaker 2: want to ask you your reaction to David Pocock, the
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Speaker 2: Independent Senator coming out today to dispute Alberanesi's version of
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Speaker 2: events that there wasn't a deal on the environmental laws.
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Speaker 11: You don't have to be very bright to figure out
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Speaker 11: there was a deal done by Plibasic and that Albanize
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Speaker 11: you spoke to the Premier of Western Australia.
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Speaker 10: This will put the seeds.
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Speaker 11: It was plask out, So all the people who thought
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Speaker 11: they were going to get this deal, which was hideous
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Speaker 11: for Australia. So I'm rather pleased we've hauled out of it.
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Speaker 11: Otherwise it would be up to Prime Minister Dunton to
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Speaker 11: reverse it. So but equally he's simply told and that
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Speaker 11: the bad blood between two per sick and Albanesi is
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Speaker 11: palpable for all to see. First of all, he thought
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Speaker 11: he could bury it, bury her in the environmental portfolio. Yeah,
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Speaker 11: and that's turned out to come back and bite him.
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Speaker 2: She's causing him all sorts of problems.
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Speaker 10: Which he has.
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Speaker 11: So and of course they're they're rivals, they're seats next
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Speaker 11: door to each other.
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Speaker 10: And both on the left.
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Speaker 11: And she had the temerity to come out as deputy
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Speaker 11: b deputy prime minister when or would be deputy prime
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Speaker 11: Minister to shortened when Alberanesi thought that was his kid.
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Speaker 10: So there's there's lots of things.
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Speaker 2: And he'd be worried about her as a future leadership
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Speaker 2: rival as well. But Caleb, you know, what about the
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Speaker 2: fact that he has effectively, as I said, undermined and
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Speaker 2: gas lit a senior woman in his cabinet. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he claimed Scott Morrison had a woman problem. Looks treating
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Speaker 2: the senior for a female in his own.
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Speaker 7: Dis It's a very good point. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 7: it's hardly reeks of cabinet government, does it. It reminds
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Speaker 7: me a bit of his matedown in Victoria, Daniel Andrews,
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Speaker 7: who ruled the cabinet with an iron fist. It was
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Speaker 7: Dan's way or the highway, and he was very effective
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Speaker 7: in consolidating power by threatening the members of his own
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Speaker 7: cabinet and saying, well, if you want to stay here,
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Speaker 7: you've got to join my faction. I mean, he managed
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Speaker 7: to turn the Treasurer Tim Pallas from the right to
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Speaker 7: the socialist left. How does that happen unless you put
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Speaker 7: a gun against someone's head. The problem for Albow now
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Speaker 7: is I think we're talking about exactly this last week
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Speaker 7: on this panel. He has basically nothing to point to
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Speaker 7: as an achievement. While he has been Prime Minister going
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Speaker 7: into the next federal election and in getting rid of
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Speaker 7: the FEDERALLYPA, which was an election promise as bad as
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Speaker 7: a proposal it might have been. He's broken a promise
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Speaker 7: and he's next one of the only things that he
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Speaker 7: could have said, oh yeah, we actually did something that
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Speaker 7: was on our policy platform because he's realized, oh well,
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Speaker 7: it'll get us in trouble. Like Bronwin said in Western Australia,
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Speaker 7: the man has no principles. He's realized now that he's
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Speaker 7: cooked and he's doing everything he can to go backwards
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Speaker 7: one hundred miles an hour in the hope that it
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Speaker 7: will save him at the next federal election. I think
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Speaker 7: it's a little bit late for that.
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Speaker 2: It's so frustrating when politicians campaign on transparency and accountability
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Speaker 2: actually a bit like the Teals, and then they go
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Speaker 2: on to do the exact opposite.
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Speaker 11: I don't think any of them can spell transparency.
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Speaker 10: Let her know know what it means.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, all right.
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Speaker 11: I think you're a bit kind about saying Abenez he
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Speaker 11: had a steel fist.
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Speaker 7: No, it's a bit of a lymnos I suspect, but
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Speaker 7: you know he's giving it a go.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think it's the opposite.
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Speaker 2: He lets the ministers do whatever they want. He's not
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Speaker 2: across the detail. He tries to pretend that's a good thing,
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Speaker 2: but really he's just too lazy to do the work
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Speaker 2: to get across the details.
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Speaker 10: Already checked out personally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, is living in the Copacabanah Clift Up mansion and
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Speaker 2: his dreams already all right. Well, Amo is warning that
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Speaker 2: gas supplies need to now be carefully managed heading into summer,
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Speaker 2: or else there'll be a risk that the energy grid
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Speaker 2: stability will be damaged or will be volatile across the
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Speaker 2: East coast.
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Speaker 3: Ron When This is yet another warning from a EMO
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Speaker 3: that you know, we have a vulnerable energy grid.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, a bit to catch up, aren't they, Because there
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Speaker 11: are lots of us saying this is a problem, that
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Speaker 11: it is all going to happen, and Albow will be
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Speaker 11: regretting the fact that he didn't go on the seventh
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Speaker 11: of December when they were all ready to go. Lost
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Speaker 11: their nerve because it's not going to get any better. Blackouts,
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Speaker 11: more strikes, people who are.
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Speaker 10: Cancelling, more deals, the whole scene. There'll be no red cup.
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Speaker 11: The whole thing is going to get worse blowouts from
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Speaker 11: the budget which will become more apparent. There's no way
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Speaker 11: they're having another budget. So when we see AMO come
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Speaker 11: out like this and suddenly admit what we've all known,
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Speaker 11: that blackouts are on the horizon and that the gas
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Speaker 11: hasn't been produced and at about time they demanded of
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Speaker 11: those people who own those coal fire power stations to
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Speaker 11: up the maintenance and had them ready to go because
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Speaker 11: they're getting to be needed.
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Speaker 2: It makes people so angry when we think that we've
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Speaker 2: been exploining so much gas.
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Speaker 7: Caleb, Yeah, well, we don't really have a gas reserve
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Speaker 7: in this country, which is insane, and the gas reserves
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Speaker 7: held by our allies have been depleted in recent years
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Speaker 7: that the US gas reserves were at their lowest point
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Speaker 7: I think in forty years. Last year they've started building
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Speaker 7: that back up again. But we have so much gas
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Speaker 7: in this country, particularly in places where we can't extract it,
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Speaker 7: including Victoria, which will be the most reliant on gas
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Speaker 7: if things go wrong over summer. By the way, it
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Speaker 7: was only last year, or might have be been earlier
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Speaker 7: this year, where the Victorian government finally opened up the ideas,
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Speaker 7: Oh yes, we can drill for gas in Victoria in
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Speaker 7: but of course no one wants to go and spend
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Speaker 7: the money because they know that it was banned for
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Speaker 7: a decade under Andrews, So why would you bother going
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Speaker 7: to do that. We don't use the resources that we
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Speaker 7: have in this country, whether it's uranium or coal or gas.
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Speaker 7: We send it all overseas for other people to burn,
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Speaker 7: and we used to go a lot. We're doing the
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Speaker 7: great thing for the environment here. It doesn't matter where
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Speaker 7: you burn it. We all live in the same world,
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Speaker 7: So why don't we just keep some for ourselves so
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Speaker 7: we can have cheap and reliable energy. Otherwise you end
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Speaker 7: up like South Australia, where now the Energy Minister Tom
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Speaker 7: Kotsontonas is begging for energy to put two diesel generators
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Speaker 7: back in the market.
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Speaker 2: How's that for coeen and green energy insanity? Okay, let's
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Speaker 2: turn to the US now. A congressional subcommittee today has
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Speaker 2: declared that COVID nineteen most likely originated in a.
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Speaker 3: Lab in Wohan.
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Speaker 2: This finding was part of a five hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: page report after a two year investigation. China has tonight
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Speaker 2: hit back, have a look.
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Speaker 12: Lape origin of the pandemic is extremely unlikely. The United
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Speaker 12: States should immediately stop weaponizing and politicizing this issue. Stop
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Speaker 12: sling mad Well.
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Speaker 2: The ABC the whole way alongsided with China, claimed this
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Speaker 2: was a conspiracy brn win. Yet now in this report,
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Speaker 2: even more official you know evidence, Yet no apology to
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Speaker 2: viewers by the ABC for misleading them.
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Speaker 10: Not to mention your excellent book.
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Speaker 11: Thank you very well researched, very well presented, and a
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Speaker 11: slam deck case.
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Speaker 10: Yes, of course it came out of Wuvan, Of course
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Speaker 10: it did.
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Speaker 11: The Chinese could just as easily be mister Fauci because
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Speaker 11: he was complicit in the whole deal. Too in my estimation.
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Speaker 11: So I just think that the Chinese don't want to
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Speaker 11: lose face.
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Speaker 10: That's their problem.
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Speaker 11: They don't want to lose face, says I'll hit out
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Speaker 11: and hit out, but it will become quite apparent, as
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Speaker 11: it did to many of us very early on that
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Speaker 11: of course, it came out of there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and by the way, you were ridiculed. I
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Speaker 2: just remembered as well by the ABC for your comments
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Speaker 2: on this. Just before we go, Look, we've been talking
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Speaker 2: about how Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter. Well, it
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Speaker 2: was a very funny comment on this from the TV
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Speaker 2: host John Stewart. If we can play that and have
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Speaker 2: a look at that clip, eleven years.
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Speaker 10: Is a very specific.
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Speaker 13: And not rounded amount of time, So, honor, I'll give
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Speaker 13: you a pardon a few years, five years, ten years.
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Speaker 10: It needs to be eleven.
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Speaker 12: And if you would be so kind, make sure this
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Speaker 12: upcoming New Year's Eve is also covered.
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Speaker 2: Shit's going to get Chris. It's hilarious, Caleb, but it's
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Speaker 2: also you know, so you're ridiculous because you know very
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Speaker 2: specific time period eleven years that the pardon applies to.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, and it goes all the way back
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Speaker 7: to Hunter beginning to do deals with Barisma and Ukraine, etc.
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Speaker 7: And the question is what was the connection between Hunter
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Speaker 7: and his father when these deals were being done. Close
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Speaker 7: associates of Hunter Biden's have testified that he was using
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Speaker 7: his father, who was then Vice president, to get business
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Speaker 7: deals done overseas and that potentially the Biden family benefited
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Speaker 7: from that. So, including those eleven years, is running cover
21:34
Speaker 7: for the president as much as it is for his son.
21:38
Speaker 7: And if you've got that power available to you, why
21:41
Speaker 7: wouldn't you use it? I know it's insane and it's awful,
21:45
Speaker 7: but why wouldn't you use it? He's just done what's
21:47
Speaker 7: in front of him.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll find some way, the Trump administration of
21:51
Speaker 2: getting around and having a look at what they can investigate. Nonetheless, Bronwan,
21:55
Speaker 2: Bishop cayleb Bond, thank you both very much. All Right,
21:58
Speaker 2: returning to the major story today that Donald Trump has
22:01
Speaker 2: threatened to unleash Hell if the hostages aren't returned. Let's
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Speaker 2: bring in now Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson. James,
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Speaker 2: thanks for your time. As always, Look, we've seen weak
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Speaker 2: international leadership more inclined to criticize Israel than demand Hamas
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Speaker 2: actually hand back the hostages, and the Albanesi government seems
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Speaker 2: to think the hostages are an afterthought as they keep
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Speaker 2: criticizing Israel. Should our politicians take a leaf out of
22:28
Speaker 2: Trump's book and deal with terrorists through strength rather than appeasement.
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Speaker 4: It's great to be with you, Shari, and I think
22:37
Speaker 4: you're absolutely right that the Albanezi government's response from the
22:40
Speaker 4: very beginning of this crisis has been weakness and false
22:44
Speaker 4: moral equivalents, and it's now very clear that they're being
22:47
Speaker 4: driven by their political interests and they are putting that
22:50
Speaker 4: ahead of the national interest. The national interest and Australia's
22:53
Speaker 4: values would have dictated that immediately after the seventh of
22:56
Speaker 4: October we stood shoulder to shoulder with our friend and
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Speaker 4: our ally Israel, and that we did everything we could
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Speaker 4: to support them in their attempts to regain their citizens
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Speaker 4: who are so cruelly taken hostage by Hamas on the
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Speaker 4: seventh October. The especially cruel thing about this today, as
23:11
Speaker 4: you pointed out in your editorial, Shari, is that of
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Speaker 4: those one hundred and one hostages who are still captive
23:16
Speaker 4: of Hamas in Gaza in the tunnels, we don't know
23:20
Speaker 4: and their families don't know how many of them are
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Speaker 4: left alive. And yet the Albanzi government has been making
23:25
Speaker 4: tokenistic references occasionally to hostages, but in some of their
23:29
Speaker 4: public comments recently haven't even had the pretense to pretend
23:32
Speaker 4: that they care about that anymore, and they've moved on
23:35
Speaker 4: to be far more focused on their political interests, which
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Speaker 4: I think is going to play out in the coming
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Speaker 4: days and weeks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, speaking about the political interests, there's breaking news
23:44
Speaker 2: tonight and the City Morning Herald website that the Albanezi
23:47
Speaker 2: government and I'm quoting from that article now, that the
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Speaker 2: Albanizer government is preparing to again anger Israel by switching
23:54
Speaker 2: Australia's stance on the Israeli Palestinian conflict in a series
23:58
Speaker 2: of high profile United Nations votes, which include a resolution
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Speaker 2: aimed at creating an irreversible pathway to a Palestinian state.
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Speaker 2: This is Penny Wang in action, and James, this comes
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Speaker 2: after the latest hostile UN resolution vote and I revealed
24:18
Speaker 2: that that was a captain's call. Pennywang actually ignored the
24:20
Speaker 2: recommendation from Australia's mission.
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Speaker 3: At the YUN. What's your reaction to this news?
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Speaker 2: Tonight.
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Speaker 4: Well, I suspect those reports are accurate and it is
24:31
Speaker 4: almost getting to the point where we are losing count
24:34
Speaker 4: of the times at which Australia under Pennywong's leadership as
24:37
Speaker 4: Foreign Minister has abandoned Israel at the United Nations. Penniwong
24:41
Speaker 4: has trashed decades of bipartisanship when it comes to our
24:44
Speaker 4: approach to Israel Palestine issues at the United Nations. We
24:47
Speaker 4: would always have opposed or at the very least abstained
24:51
Speaker 4: from any motion that went to final status issues, certainly
24:54
Speaker 4: that prematurely recognized a Palestinian state prior to the successful
24:59
Speaker 4: negotiation of a peace agreement between the Palestinian authority and Israel.
25:02
Speaker 4: And it's very clear for all to see what is
25:05
Speaker 4: driving this, and that is the Labour Party's existential fear
25:08
Speaker 4: and dread that they will lose seats first in the
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Speaker 4: Inner City to the Greens who attacking them on this issue,
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Speaker 4: and now also in Western Sydney where the Muslim Votes
25:16
Speaker 4: Matter movement and others are targeting them. But that's a
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Speaker 4: completely reckless and irresponsible thing to do, because not only
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Speaker 4: have they abandoned our values, not only have they abandoned
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Speaker 4: our interests. They've also put an enormous golf between Australia
25:28
Speaker 4: and our closest and most important ally of the United States,
25:31
Speaker 4: and that's under the Biden administration. The Trump administration will
25:34
Speaker 4: be even more forthright in its support for Israel than
25:37
Speaker 4: the Biden administration has been, and that golf is getting
25:40
Speaker 4: bigger and bigger. And I don't see how it's in
25:42
Speaker 4: our national interest in an uncertain strategic environment to have
25:45
Speaker 4: distance between Australia and the United States, but apparently the
25:48
Speaker 4: Foreign Minister.
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Speaker 2: Does, and it's a national security issue as well. Of
25:52
Speaker 2: course you just mentioned then the Muslim vote campaign. Well
25:56
Speaker 2: they've come out in a report in The Australian today
25:59
Speaker 2: and actually said that it might be better to have
26:01
Speaker 2: a Duttam government. To send a message to Labor, this
26:05
Speaker 2: is some parts of that campaign. Well, what do you
26:08
Speaker 2: think about this, because Labors show no leadership on this
26:11
Speaker 2: issue and instead, as you just said, that foreign policy
26:15
Speaker 2: is designed to try win back over radical activists.
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Speaker 4: It shows you shore that appeasement doesn't work. The Labor
26:24
Speaker 4: Party has compromised our foreign policy and national security policy
26:27
Speaker 4: and our national interest in an attempt to shore up
26:29
Speaker 4: votes in these seats and it doesn't even work. And
26:32
Speaker 4: I think the antidote to appeasement is strength. I think
26:35
Speaker 4: the antidote to the moral equivalents we've seen is moral clarity.
26:38
Speaker 4: And I think the antidote to the impotence we've seen
26:41
Speaker 4: is moral strength. And those are the things that we
26:43
Speaker 4: will get from Peter Dutton as Prime minister if he's elected.
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Speaker 7: At the next election.
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Speaker 4: He will always put our national interests first. He will
26:49
Speaker 4: always stand closely with our allies. He'll stand shoulder to
26:52
Speaker 4: shoulder for our values on the international stage and the
26:55
Speaker 4: international forums. And in Peter Dutton, we would have the
26:58
Speaker 4: most pro Israel prime min start in Australia's history. And
27:01
Speaker 4: we've had some very strong pro Israel prime ministers like
27:04
Speaker 4: Scott Morrison and Malcolm Turnbull and Tony Abbott and John Howard,
27:07
Speaker 4: but he would be even stronger than them.
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Speaker 3: Look music to my ears.
27:11
Speaker 2: And that would also be a reflection of Trump's cabinet,
27:13
Speaker 2: because we've seen that his cabinet. I mean, some have
27:16
Speaker 2: said it even more pro Israel than Israel's own cabinet.
27:20
Speaker 2: But you know, Israel so far has had its allies
27:24
Speaker 2: basically desert them, so it needs friends.
27:26
Speaker 3: At this time as it fights for survival.
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Speaker 2: James Patterson, really appreciate your clarity as always. Thank you.
27:35
Speaker 2: Now still to come. Why is the University of Sydney
27:38
Speaker 2: protecting an academic who's under police investigation and has threatened
27:43
Speaker 2: Sky News hosts Carolyn Marcus would join me and will
27:46
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen become known as the Grinch who Stole Christmas?
27:50
Speaker 2: As annual lights displays could be under threat thanks to
27:53
Speaker 2: soaring power prices. I talk about that with my panel
27:57
Speaker 2: after this quick break.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to get into Chris bow and his
28:06
Speaker 2: new name is the Grinch who might be stealing Christmas
28:09
Speaker 2: to discuss. You can now meet the latest liberal to
28:12
Speaker 2: be pre selected to take on the Teals. James Brown
28:15
Speaker 2: has been pre selected for.
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Speaker 3: The seat of mckeller.
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Speaker 2: Great to see. Oh we've just lost James for a
28:21
Speaker 2: SECU We back in a minute. I'm sure this is
28:23
Speaker 2: Bromwin Bishop's old seat, so he'll try and unseat Sophie scoumps.
28:27
Speaker 2: And we're also going to bring into Menzies Research Center
28:30
Speaker 2: executive director Dave Hughes. Great to see you, gay. Look,
28:34
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton today launched an attack on labor for breaking
28:38
Speaker 2: their promise to reduce power bills by two hundred and
28:41
Speaker 2: seventy five dollars. We played that those comments a little
28:44
Speaker 2: earlier in the show.
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Speaker 11: Look.
28:46
Speaker 2: At the same time, the Daily Telegraph is asking readers
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Speaker 2: to submit their best Christmas light displays in the suburb.
28:53
Speaker 2: This is an annual favorite where people drive from all
28:56
Speaker 2: over Sydney. I'm sure it's the case in other cities
28:59
Speaker 2: as well, right from all over to see the homes
29:02
Speaker 2: with the most spectacular Christmas light displays. But Dave, there's
29:06
Speaker 2: concerns that, given how high people's power bills are, many
29:11
Speaker 2: families won't be able to afford to do this.
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Speaker 14: I think it was actually three years ago to the
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Speaker 14: day Shari that Anthony Alberizi first promise power bills would
29:19
Speaker 14: be reduced by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year. Now,
29:22
Speaker 14: that was a promise that didn't match his policies, because
29:24
Speaker 14: his policies have actually driven up power prices. And what
29:27
Speaker 14: we've seen is we've seen less base load power in
29:30
Speaker 14: the market, you know, reliable baseload power that coal, gas
29:35
Speaker 14: and nuclear could provide, and we've got intermittent renewables filling
29:39
Speaker 14: that gap. Power prices have gone up and families are
29:42
Speaker 14: taking decisions to cut costs. So yeah, I wouldn't be
29:46
Speaker 14: surprised if there's a lot of families out there in
29:48
Speaker 14: the suburbs who are taking those decisions not to maybe
29:51
Speaker 14: scale down their Christmas lights displays this year.
29:55
Speaker 2: And not to mention James, you know, we're being told
29:58
Speaker 2: that on hot days we shouldn't be running out dishwasher
30:00
Speaker 2: past three pm. Well, what's the state government going to
30:03
Speaker 2: say about these Christmas light displays?
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Speaker 1: We'll sharring my neighbor's not the Christmas lights up already.
30:09
Speaker 1: The gauntlet has been thrown down and I'm well behind.
30:12
Speaker 1: But that's the decision we have to make. We've got
30:15
Speaker 1: a grid that is increasingly fragile. Can we run the
30:18
Speaker 1: air conditioning that we need? Can we run the Christmas lights?
30:21
Speaker 1: Can we run the fridge? And can we pay for
30:22
Speaker 1: it all? And that's the challenge that families are looking
30:25
Speaker 1: at as we going to Christmas. This is a tough
30:28
Speaker 1: time for families that are not where they want to
30:31
Speaker 1: be economically, that are facing the pressure of higher interest rates,
30:35
Speaker 1: who are looking at how they're going to afford presents
30:38
Speaker 1: and we're here because of the policies of the government.
30:41
Speaker 1: They've led us to this point.
30:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a scary thought, and you know, I just
30:45
Speaker 2: worry and I wish there was maybe I'll try to
30:48
Speaker 2: find out in the next few days. You know, there's
30:50
Speaker 2: going to be children out there who can't afford the
30:52
Speaker 2: parents can't afford Christmas present. So I think we need
30:54
Speaker 2: to find out what we can do to help those
30:56
Speaker 2: families in the next week and a half before we
30:59
Speaker 2: break for Christmas. Now, one of Australia's biggest banks has
31:02
Speaker 2: slapped another fee on customers. This is outraged everyone today
31:06
Speaker 2: charging three dollars each time people want to withdraw their
31:09
Speaker 2: own money from a branch, a post office or by
31:13
Speaker 2: phone versus come bank, David, this seems insanity. You know,
31:17
Speaker 2: this continual paying to take out cash.
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Speaker 14: You can understand why people want to have easy access
31:24
Speaker 14: to cash in this day and age, because of transaction
31:27
Speaker 14: fees and the like. I've got a briefing from the
31:30
Speaker 14: Commonwealth Bank this afternoon on this on this issue. They
31:34
Speaker 14: say that there'll be exemptions for a lot of pensioners
31:38
Speaker 14: and people that have I think two thousand dollars coming
31:40
Speaker 14: into their accounts so every month, so most way journals
31:44
Speaker 14: will be exempt and of course people feel can feel
31:48
Speaker 14: free to shop around as well if.
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Speaker 2: They if people even know how to go through the
31:52
Speaker 2: process of getting that exemption, sitting on hold for hours
31:56
Speaker 2: at a time.
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Speaker 3: None of this is easy, this.
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Speaker 14: Is true, but yeah, it's an issue we face now.
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Speaker 14: My barber only accepts cash because he's had enough with
32:05
Speaker 14: these transaction fees.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, class businesses a lot.
32:08
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's really frustrating for businesses as well, So this
32:11
Speaker 14: is why people are people are drawn to cash. I
32:13
Speaker 14: hope it doesn't create any issues for the most vulnerable
32:15
Speaker 14: as well, as we talk about those pensioners in particular
32:18
Speaker 14: who might not know how to use an ATM. But
32:21
Speaker 14: I think through these changes today, I think come off
32:23
Speaker 14: bank ATMs will still be able to be access free
32:26
Speaker 14: of charge for their customers.
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Speaker 2: James, you're starting to do the rounds. I mentioned before
32:31
Speaker 2: that you've just been pre selected as a Liberal candidate
32:34
Speaker 2: for mckella. Bro I'm a bishop's old seat. We just
32:36
Speaker 2: had her on the show. You're trying to knock off
32:38
Speaker 2: the till you know? Is this one of the issues
32:40
Speaker 2: that you're finding matters to people when you're don knocking.
32:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Charan. It's a great honor to be stepping
32:48
Speaker 1: up in the seat where Bronwin Bishop was a member
32:50
Speaker 1: for so long and she's still so loved by the
32:52
Speaker 1: community here. Pensions, as David mentioned, are the ones who
32:56
Speaker 1: use cash the most, and a lot of them haven't
33:00
Speaker 1: moved into the world of internet banking. They like to
33:02
Speaker 1: go to a branch. They like to be able to
33:03
Speaker 1: get cash once a month across the tele accounter and
33:08
Speaker 1: use that to pay their expenses. So this is another
33:11
Speaker 1: challenge for them to navigate. It's another hit on top
33:14
Speaker 1: of the surcharges that we're seeing. All of this adds
33:17
Speaker 1: up and creates pressure.
33:19
Speaker 7: I mean, the.
33:19
Speaker 1: People I'm talking to are telling me that there is
33:22
Speaker 1: a lot going on beneath the surface at the moment,
33:24
Speaker 1: a lot of financial stress beneath the surface. And on
33:27
Speaker 1: the northern beaches, you've only got to look at the
33:29
Speaker 1: areas where people park their secondhand cars for sale on
33:32
Speaker 1: Pittwater and Baron Joey Rhodes. Those queues of cars for
33:36
Speaker 1: sala much longer than I've ever seen them, and that
33:39
Speaker 1: shows you people can't afford to run that second car.
33:42
Speaker 1: They can't keep the groceries, the school fees, all of
33:44
Speaker 1: that going at once.
33:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all a light. It all adds up petrol
33:47
Speaker 2: prices as well. Now let's turn to queens Line now,
33:50
Speaker 2: because we're seeing human rights groups are trying to stop
33:53
Speaker 2: the newly elected Premier David Chris A. Fooley from implementing
33:56
Speaker 2: his adult crime adult time laws. These groups are claiming
34:01
Speaker 2: that it's going to clog up the justice system. I mean, David, surely,
34:05
Speaker 2: of all issues, he has a mandate to ignore these
34:08
Speaker 2: groups on this particular issue. When youth crime is such
34:11
Speaker 2: a problem in Queensland.
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Speaker 14: And Shari, if it's going to clog up the prisons
34:15
Speaker 14: and youth detention centers, build more, don't weaken the laws
34:19
Speaker 14: to accommodate that. I see the UN have criticized these
34:23
Speaker 14: laws as being inhumane. This is of course the same
34:26
Speaker 14: UN that has Russia sitting on the Security Council. A
34:31
Speaker 14: few years ago in Queensland there was a young couple
34:34
Speaker 14: expecting their first child that were tragically killed by a
34:38
Speaker 14: drunk driver, juvenile driver on drugs, a long list of
34:43
Speaker 14: offenses in his history. He'll be released soon. The maximum
34:48
Speaker 14: sentence sacred provide was ten years, but he'll be out
34:53
Speaker 14: sooner than that. There is a strong case for these laws.
34:57
Speaker 11: Chris O.
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Speaker 14: Fooley has a mandate they should be implemented and he
35:00
Speaker 14: needs to stand firm.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, James, before you go, I just want to get
35:05
Speaker 2: your you know, as former RSL president, I want to
35:08
Speaker 2: get your feedback on what you think of Alberaneze's response
35:13
Speaker 2: to the Royal Commission yesterday.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
35:16
Speaker 1: Look, Shari, I'm a liberal candidate for office, so I'll
35:20
Speaker 1: bag the government all day long about how it's letting
35:23
Speaker 1: the defense for slide and leaving us unprepared. But on
35:26
Speaker 1: this I do want to say that I think it's
35:28
Speaker 1: being taken seriously on a bipartisan basis. So I've personally
35:30
Speaker 1: seen the commitment of Minister Matt Keo on this issue,
35:35
Speaker 1: and I've seen the commitment of the Secretary of the
35:37
Speaker 1: Department of Veterans Affairs, Alison Frame, who I think is
35:39
Speaker 1: doing a good job. Barnaby Joyce, ol spokesman himself a veteran,
35:44
Speaker 1: has been tireless on this too. I mean this Royal Commission,
35:47
Speaker 1: as you know, because you were there with me fighting
35:49
Speaker 1: for it a number of years ago, convincing the Morrison
35:52
Speaker 1: government to step up and investigate this issue was a
35:54
Speaker 1: long time coming. The issues are really complex. Some of
35:59
Speaker 1: the steps we've seen implemented today will take a long
36:02
Speaker 1: time to change the system. But the change is happening
36:06
Speaker 1: and the problems been acknowledged, and I think most importantly
36:09
Speaker 1: the veterans who were suffering and their families have been
36:13
Speaker 1: heard and recognized, and you know that will go a
36:16
Speaker 1: long way to addressing this chronic problem.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long time coming, but yes, as you say,
36:22
Speaker 2: it's going to take a long time for these issues
36:24
Speaker 2: to be properly addressed. All right, Thank you both so much,
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Speaker 2: Dave Hughes, James Brown.
36:29
Speaker 3: Great to see you both.
36:32
Speaker 2: Now still to come. The highly respected economist exposing the
36:35
Speaker 2: Albanezi government's reckless spending, Chris Richardson says families are getting
36:39
Speaker 2: less of the tax man is getting more. Plus, why
36:42
Speaker 2: the University of Sydney continues to employ an academic threatening
36:47
Speaker 2: hosts here on Sky News.
36:49
Speaker 3: Well, Caroline Marcus will join me.
36:51
Speaker 2: With that exclusive after this break Welcome back with the
36:58
Speaker 2: University of Sydney has referred one of its own academics
37:02
Speaker 2: to police after he threatened Jewish groups and sky News hosts.
37:07
Speaker 2: Joel Griggs's online history has exposed his anti Israel, anti
37:11
Speaker 2: Zionist stunts. In one post, directed to the Australian Jewish
37:15
Speaker 2: Association president David Adler, he tweeted that the AJA is
37:20
Speaker 2: a fascist and terror cell. If the government isn't going
37:23
Speaker 2: to move on these dangerous psychopaths, can we maybe pull
37:27
Speaker 2: something together on Twitter? Couldn't be too hard to find
37:31
Speaker 2: out where these people live. In another, he referenced my
37:37
Speaker 2: colleague Andrew Bolt and he posted, will get you one day?
37:41
Speaker 2: You seditious, traitorous scum Caroline Marcus who joins me now
37:46
Speaker 2: she's the sky News reporter who broke this exclusive story. Caroline,
37:50
Speaker 2: there are so many offensive tweets others. He said people
37:53
Speaker 2: should be put up against a wall.
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Speaker 15: Yes, he even said you should be put up against
37:57
Speaker 15: a wall, Shari. And the tweet that he post about
38:00
Speaker 15: Andrew Bolt included several other sky News hosts as well
38:03
Speaker 15: as digital staff who posts the tweets onto the sky
38:08
Speaker 15: News Twitter account. But in terms of yourself and some
38:11
Speaker 15: other sky News hosts, he also said that these traitors
38:18
Speaker 15: scum should be put up against the wall and Australia
38:22
Speaker 15: would be a lot better off, and yet the University
38:25
Speaker 15: of Sydney still continue to employ him.
38:27
Speaker 2: They've referred him to police, but they won't stack him.
38:29
Speaker 15: Why is this Well, a spokesman from the university told
38:33
Speaker 15: me that they found some of his posts so concerning
38:36
Speaker 15: that they felt compelled to refer them to the Inner
38:40
Speaker 15: West Police Area Command in Sydney. Now there is a
38:43
Speaker 15: little bit of confusion because police say they haven't received
38:47
Speaker 15: any sort of formal report, but the university, I understand,
38:52
Speaker 15: did refer this material to them back in September. Now
38:57
Speaker 15: they did say, however, they told the Jewish group that
39:00
Speaker 15: they couldn't take any disciplinary action against him due to
39:05
Speaker 15: the threats being made in a personal capacity, because they
39:08
Speaker 15: were made on his Twitter account, which was public.
39:13
Speaker 2: I've learned a few.
39:13
Speaker 15: Minutes ago that it's actually been switched to.
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Speaker 2: Private now and that they weren't.
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Speaker 15: Being made in the name of the university. But he
39:22
Speaker 15: mentioned several times his employment at the university and the
39:26
Speaker 15: fact that he's taught there for eight years. So I'll
39:30
Speaker 15: leave that to your viewers to decide whether that justification
39:35
Speaker 15: for not taking disciplinary action stands. They also quoted the
39:39
Speaker 15: academic freedom as part of the Code of conduct and
39:44
Speaker 15: that they need to protect academic freedom. But if making
39:48
Speaker 15: threats of what appears to be violence against people, including
39:54
Speaker 15: colleagues at Sky News, constitutes academic freedom, well, I think
39:58
Speaker 15: that will leave a lot of people feeling puzzled.
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Speaker 2: And you'd think that parents whose children are attending the
40:03
Speaker 2: University of Sydney, you know that they wouldn't necessarily feel
40:06
Speaker 2: comfortable being taught by someone who has made threats like
40:09
Speaker 2: this whole life exactly.
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Speaker 15: And not only that, the university is obviously under intense
40:13
Speaker 15: scrutiny over its handling of anti Semitism on campus.
40:18
Speaker 2: It's vice chancellor, Mark Scott.
40:20
Speaker 15: Has admitted to failing Jewish students and staff, and only
40:23
Speaker 15: on Friday he tried to deny that the university was
40:27
Speaker 15: an incubator for anti semitism, and then we learn about
40:31
Speaker 15: this case. So I think the university will have a
40:34
Speaker 15: lot of questions to answer about how it's handled this too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, look, I want to turn to nine Entertainment.
40:41
Speaker 2: One of their senior reporters, Airly Walsh.
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Speaker 3: She's highly respected.
40:46
Speaker 2: News today that she's suing the network in the federal court.
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Speaker 2: This comes amid the major cultural reckoning that's hit nine
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Speaker 2: since the sexual harassment scandal broke. Now we know Airly
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Speaker 2: Walsh file a human rights sex discrimination case against her employer.
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Speaker 2: No suggestion, Well, it's not clear who it's related to.
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Speaker 2: No suggestion it's related to the disgrace Darren Wick, Caroline.
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Speaker 2: We both know Ellie well Welsh well. She is one
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Speaker 2: of the nicest reporters around. She's a delight to be
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Speaker 2: around when you're out on jobs, a wonderful mother, very
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Speaker 2: courageous of her and brave of her to take this step.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, this is no easy feed because, as many women
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Speaker 15: have learned over the years, that taking action against your employer,
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Speaker 15: when it comes to a media company, and in particular
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Speaker 15: a commercial television network, can spell the end of your career.
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Speaker 15: And let's hope that's not the case for Ellie because
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Speaker 15: I think she has a very promising career and I
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Speaker 15: was hoping to see her return after her maternity leave,
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Speaker 15: which she's currently on after having her baby son last year. Now,
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Speaker 15: she's worked at Line for fifteen years, and we don't
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Speaker 15: know the details of this case that's been filed in
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Speaker 15: the Federal Core, but we do know that she has
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Speaker 15: filed a human rights sex discrimination case against Nine. As
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Speaker 15: you said, we don't know whether that's to do and
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Speaker 15: there's no suggestion that's to do with Darren Wick despite
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Speaker 15: him being accused of sexual harassment. We don't know by
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Speaker 15: who or by sources. I know you've spoken to some,
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Speaker 15: but it is it speaks to the culture that we've
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Speaker 15: been learning about at nine. And I previously worked at nine,
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Speaker 15: including working alongside Airly when I did shifts for nine News,
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Speaker 15: I was mostly at a current affair. And it's disturbing
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Speaker 15: because nine did recently have external investigated workplace investigators look
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Speaker 15: into the culture there and it found that more than
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Speaker 15: half fifty seven percent of staff working in the broadcast
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Speaker 15: division had experienced some form of discrimination, harassment, bullying.
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Speaker 2: So it seems to.
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Speaker 15: Be another example of that. I know of at least
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Speaker 15: one other former nine employee who is talking to lawyers
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Speaker 15: currently and is planning an action as well.
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Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 2: Let's hope, as you say that Elliwosh continues to have
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Speaker 2: a long career head off her. She is an excellent
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Speaker 2: journalist and a wonderful person. Caroline Markers, thank you very
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Speaker 2: much and congrats again, and you're reporting today now. I
43:22
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere Victoria has been ranked last by the
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Speaker 2: Business Opportunity. What this means for their souring economy. Plus
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Speaker 2: one economist has done the numbers and shown that labor's
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Speaker 2: cash slash is hurting the budget bottom line. Chris Richardson
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Speaker 2: would join me next. Welcome back. Well, I'm pleased to
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Speaker 2: say I'm joined now by leading economist Chris Richardson. Chris,
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Speaker 2: great to see you, as always, Thank you very much
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Speaker 2: for your time. Now. You've written a fascinating piece in
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Speaker 2: the fin Review where you lay out how the tax PI,
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Speaker 2: if you like, has changed in Australia, the point that
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Speaker 2: families are getting less and the tax man is getting more.
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Speaker 2: Can you explain this to us?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, budgets move all the time, and we tend to
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Speaker 13: assume they move because politicians have made decisions. The main thing, however,
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Speaker 13: that shifts them around is that everything else and three
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Speaker 13: big things migration, inflation, have all had a big impact.
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Speaker 13: Inflation in particular does exactly what you just mentioned. It
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Speaker 13: takes money from families and it gives it to governments.
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Speaker 13: Migration means there's more people we can tax, so that
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Speaker 13: gives extra money to the federal government. And war pushed
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Speaker 13: up the price of a bunch of things that Australia
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Speaker 13: sells to the world, including coal, and again that gave
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Speaker 13: more money to the budget. That's basically why you have
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Speaker 13: seen a budget in surplus, that combination of war, migration
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Speaker 13: and inflation delivering the government a lot more dollars than
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Speaker 13: Treasury had expected.
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Speaker 2: Look, we've seen data today that the government blew the
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Speaker 2: government spending blew out to one hundred and ninety five
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Speaker 2: billion in the September quarter on the back of rebates,
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Speaker 2: handouts and pay hikes.
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Speaker 3: How problematic is this spending pattern.
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Speaker 13: Well, there has been a big shift in recent years,
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Speaker 13: starting with the feeds increasingly as you know with the states,
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Speaker 13: towards spending more. And that's a change in the national
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Speaker 13: social compact. That's what governments are. You know, we tax workers,
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Speaker 13: we tax businesses. We spend that on the young and
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Speaker 13: the old and the sick and the poor, and that
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Speaker 13: combination has changed in recent years. Something's in particular much
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Speaker 13: more expensive. The ndies is a good example. But we
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Speaker 13: also as a nation, we've promised ourselves a variety of
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Speaker 13: things in things like age care that we hadn't been
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Speaker 13: properly funding under governments of all stripes. That combination increasingly
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Speaker 13: catching up with us.
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Speaker 2: We've seen analysis in recent or in the past week
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Speaker 2: really about how household disposable income is declining rapidly in Australia.
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Speaker 2: We're not comparing favorably with other countries around the world.
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Speaker 3: Why is this the case.
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Speaker 13: It's been a bigger hit here. Our fight against inflation,
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Speaker 13: deliberately has been slower than you've seen elsewhere in the world.
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Speaker 13: The intent has been to make sure we keep unemployment
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Speaker 13: as low as we can as we fight our inflation.
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Speaker 13: But a slow fight against inflation is an expensive one.
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Speaker 13: It means wages further behind prices. Again, inflation helps governments
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Speaker 13: at the cost of families. It keeps infrastrates higher for longer.
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Speaker 13: We now have a lot of debt. That combination means
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Speaker 13: we've got a pretty big hit to living standards here
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Speaker 13: in Australia. Data out tomorrow should start to show the
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Speaker 13: beginnings of a rebound. The tax cut and the energy
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Speaker 13: rebates come with a variety of effects, but they do
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Speaker 13: help our standard of living and you'll see that in
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Speaker 13: tomorrow's numbers.
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Speaker 2: Chris, in your view, is the Albanezy government doing enough
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Speaker 2: to fight inflation?
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Speaker 6: No?
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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Speaker 13: And to be fair, that fight is and mostly should
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Speaker 13: be with the Reserve Bank. But the International Monetary Fund
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Speaker 13: says if governments want to help their central banks fight inflation,
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Speaker 13: then governments need to cut spending and raise taxes. Or
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Speaker 13: in other words, if inflation is a problem of too
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Speaker 13: much money chasing too little stuff, governments can help by
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Speaker 13: taking money out of the system instead. Most governments around
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Speaker 13: the world, but particularly here in Australia, are doing the opposite.
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Speaker 13: Your big text cuts, big increases in spending, Dadison, helping
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Speaker 13: the fight for the Reserve Bank.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're probably going to see even more pre
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Speaker 2: election spending as we get closer to the campaign and
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Speaker 2: Albanezi's falling in the polls, he's going to feel the
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Speaker 2: need to buy back votes. Chris Richardson, appreciate your time.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and that's it from me. I'll
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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow night at eight o'clock. Thanks for watching.
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Speaker 2: And here's Paul Murray