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Week 12 Picks with Cynthia Frelund · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where if we're fifteen and three
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  Speaker 1: over the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna honk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesley podcast studio
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  Speaker 1: with my friend who is on fire right now, Cynthia Freeland.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go Wooo, how are you good? I think you
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  Speaker 1: need to do this more. Just a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a tip for your brand. When your picks are hot,
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  Speaker 1: just just talk about it a lot, and when they're not,
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  Speaker 1: just don't say anything. Because we're hot right now. When
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  Speaker 1: I said fifteen and three, I went back. I did
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  Speaker 1: the numbers, I did the addition over the last three
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  Speaker 1: weeks combined. He yeah, we are fifteen and three. Great,
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  Speaker 1: you went three and oh let's go in week eleven
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  Speaker 1: after I had a couple undefeated weeks, but I stayed
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  Speaker 1: on the winning side, so I'm happy enough. And we're
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  Speaker 1: both nineteen and fourteen on the season, so that's pretty
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  Speaker 1: good as well.
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  Speaker 2: So let's keep this hot streak going. So let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: We pick three games against the spread each and every week.
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  Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks we've been on the same
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  Speaker 1: side and those have done well. We'll see if that
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  Speaker 1: happens today, you give me your first pick.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if something is working, I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: you stray from it. And I actually believe and my
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  Speaker 3: math actually supports picking against the Cowboys. Like she's doing
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  Speaker 3: it again. I struggled with this. If it ain't broke,
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  Speaker 3: don't forge, you're going to Okay, So there's a couple
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  Speaker 3: of things here. The line is large. It is ten
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  Speaker 3: ten and a half for Washington home, right, Okay, Washington's
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  Speaker 3: at home. However, there's a couple of things here that
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  Speaker 3: are a really big problem for the Cowboys, namely the
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  Speaker 3: run game. They have Brian Robinson junior back. They have
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  Speaker 3: Austin Eckler, who, by the way, the Cowboys also give
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  Speaker 3: up the most receiving yards to the running back position.
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  Speaker 3: It's twelve point seven is the average in terms of
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  Speaker 3: YAK per catch two running.
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  Speaker 2: Backs, and they're great.
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  Speaker 4: That is what Eckler does.
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  Speaker 3: So when I'm looking at this opportunity here in Cliff Kingsbury,
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  Speaker 3: I know he knows the.
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  Speaker 4: Narrative about him. The narrative is.
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  Speaker 3: After nine weeks, the blub blue boo blah, right, like
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  Speaker 3: things go downhill. Yeah, Okay, five and a half points
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  Speaker 3: lest per game. I see that the giveaways they double.
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  Speaker 3: Also see that you know how you stop giveaways? Run
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  Speaker 3: the football. Yeah, and you know what Jane Daniel does
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  Speaker 3: really well, and you know what Brian Robinson Junior does
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  Speaker 3: really well, runs between the tackles.
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  Speaker 4: You know what all of these guys do. They keep
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  Speaker 4: it on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: So I think also with Zertz there, and we know
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  Speaker 3: that zach Ertz is someone that Cliff Kingsbery.
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  Speaker 4: Really loves to target.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is I'm in m Maybe you've convinced me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I left him off my backline.
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  Speaker 1: We've been we've been rolling over the Cowboys or saying
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  Speaker 1: they're the worst team in the NFL. Watch that Monday
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  Speaker 1: night game and it wasn't close in the end.
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  Speaker 4: Nonother clue. Yeah, if they're not even playing Trey Lance.
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  Speaker 3: One way you could interpret this is that they think
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  Speaker 3: that they if they play him, things could get even
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  Speaker 3: worse from a losing the locker room standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: That's one way. That's because he's bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't think they trust him for
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  Speaker 1: whatever reason.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think it's worse than what?
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, my point is is, if that's what's going on,
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  Speaker 3: if we're at a place where we don't even want
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  Speaker 3: to try, what is that telling you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything about this team is a absolute and total mess.
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  Speaker 1: And yet there is something about when I saw that
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  Speaker 1: ten and a half line, I was like, it just
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  Speaker 1: felt too felt too easy this week. But I had
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  Speaker 1: to choose a side. I definitely have Washington. I have
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  Speaker 1: them written down. They're put potentially in the box. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're my third pick. I'll think about it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I like playing, but there was something about it that
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  Speaker 1: I thought this Cowboys defense is playing a little bit
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  Speaker 1: better lately, and everyone's going to think they just roll
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  Speaker 1: and could it just be eight or nine points of division?
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  Speaker 3: I actually think most people think they won't like I
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  Speaker 3: think that this is a tasty snack because I think
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys fans want it back in on the party.
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  Speaker 1: I might just do it just to show my fahit
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  Speaker 1: in you and the system that we've been on. I
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  Speaker 1: only you know when I'm doing well, and picked been
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  Speaker 1: on a good streak lately. Yeah, if you go check
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  Speaker 1: out game deview, they keep back against the spread as well,
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  Speaker 1: and we're both well over five hundred. I'm like over
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  Speaker 1: twenty over five hundred now for seasons, that's good. The
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  Speaker 1: one game that I really was sure about this week
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  Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, I gotta take that was
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  Speaker 1: actually Titans plus eight.
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  Speaker 2: And a half. I like the Titans this week.
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  Speaker 1: It is giving me Broncos against the Chiefs a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks ago vibes.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's two lesser teams.
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  Speaker 1: But I just don't think the Texans are worthy of
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  Speaker 1: being favored by that much against anyone, especially not a
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  Speaker 1: division opponent. I know it's a new coaching staff, so
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  Speaker 1: we can't take too much away from.
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  Speaker 2: The division thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't have many like rules in terms of
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  Speaker 1: my picks, but I do think you have to earn
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  Speaker 1: being that big of a favor, and at some point
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  Speaker 1: you got to accept Texans fans and people that are
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  Speaker 1: hoping for something different, like myself, like my son Walker,
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  Speaker 1: who was CJ Stroud in Fantasy.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, at some point you got to look.
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  Speaker 4: At the numbers Walker, CJ, come on, you.
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  Speaker 1: Gotta just recognize he's only had two top twelve Fantasy
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  Speaker 1: weeks all season. At some point you gotta accept the
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  Speaker 1: team that we see every week that is their team,
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  Speaker 1: and that's just offensively, it's not the team that we
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  Speaker 1: imagine the Texans to be. It's not the team I want.
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  Speaker 1: They were actually making a sweat out that Cowboys game
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit. I never thought the Cowboys offense
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  Speaker 1: would get there, so I always felt okay, but the
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  Speaker 1: Texans offense was bad.
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  Speaker 2: They're funky.
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  Speaker 1: They're twenty fourth in the league on offense right now,
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  Speaker 1: third on defense, so I really trust their defense and
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  Speaker 1: that's why they'll probably win this game. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: they're similar to the Titans. Titans twenty eighth in the
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  Speaker 1: league on offense, this is Dvoway eleventh on defense. Titans
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  Speaker 1: stop the run. You make the Texans one dimensional. If
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  Speaker 1: they're able to stop the run against Joe Mixon, the
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  Speaker 1: pass rush then gets to CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud. They're in the same division.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Titans are gonna win, but I
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  Speaker 1: do think they'll cover eight and a half and it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if the Titans won this game in
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  Speaker 1: the end. I still't believe in the Texans right now.
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  Speaker 4: It's just a weird thing about the Titans that they
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  Speaker 4: have these good metrics, but then they allow every single
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  Speaker 4: time an opponent gets into the red area to score.
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  Speaker 2: And they never cover either. That's a problem.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just like, Okay, no, I still like it.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever, No, you don't have to like it. It's fine. This
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  Speaker 1: is the one I felt good about, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: It was like last week, the one I felt best about.
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  Speaker 1: I was wrong. That was my one out. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: go with how you feel. And I know it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: totally shown up in the final score, but I promise
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  Speaker 1: you Will Levis has been a better version of Will
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  Speaker 1: Levis the last two weeks. Yeah, maybe the best version
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  Speaker 1: of Will Levis we've seen. Taking a lot of sacks,
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  Speaker 1: so he'll probably do that on Sunday, but not making
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  Speaker 1: big mistakes and making good throws when he is throwing it.
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  Speaker 1: So I just think this is gonna be a game
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  Speaker 1: like all the other Texans games in the division against
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, against the Colts that they just sweat out
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  Speaker 1: into the end. And it's a final position game, and
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  Speaker 1: so I like getting in the eight and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Give me your second.
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  Speaker 4: Pick, my second pick.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sticking with a theme of being bowld this week.
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  Speaker 3: You know which team hasn't covered all season long, the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 3: You know who's gonna cover this week?
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  Speaker 4: Wow, the Chiefs with eleven points, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care. I think this is what happens when
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  Speaker 3: you lose a game. People are like, oh no, trap game?
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  Speaker 3: Is it over?
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  Speaker 4: Are they not? What's gonna Oh no, Patrick Mahomes, Oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, what's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Uh uh.
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  Speaker 3: This is where the Kareem hunt and maybe even Isaiah
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  Speaker 3: Pacheco situation.
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  Speaker 4: Being able to run against the Panthers defense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Dj Warnam was good and against the Giants and they've had.
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  Speaker 2: A week off.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, still the same team, Like you know, bad defense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense is not great. It's decidedly ungreat. So
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  Speaker 3: even though Chubahabber's coming off a great game, even though
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  Speaker 3: eleven is a lot of points to surrender, I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is where Patrick Mahomes says, you don't
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  Speaker 3: think I can play on the East Coast.
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  Speaker 4: You think it is blah blah blah blah blah. You're
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  Speaker 4: worried about the Kicker situation. I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna just do. We're gonna go out there and
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  Speaker 3: it's just eleven points.
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  Speaker 2: No, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it because it's what I want to see
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  Speaker 1: when on a whole rant about it in the previous
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  Speaker 1: show of like can you just looked like the Chiefs?
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's give me one? Yeah, thirty five point game, this
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  Speaker 1: is the spot to do it. Great matchup. Also a
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  Speaker 1: tough matchup for Bryce Young on the other side. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: the pass rush for the Chiefs isn't great, but the
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  Speaker 1: secondary will mix it up quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: They'll send some pressure at him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a strong take, but I'm definitely on
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  Speaker 1: your side on this one, So I like that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going with your Lions, speaking of a heavy favorite as
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  Speaker 1: my second pick. All right, Like I said this week,
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  Speaker 1: even though I've been feeling it lately, the numbers didn't
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  Speaker 1: speak to me as much this week. This was a
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  Speaker 1: solid number two, and I'm still scrambling about number three.
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  Speaker 1: The reason why I went with minus seven and a
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  Speaker 1: half for the Lions is not just because they're one
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  Speaker 1: of the best teams we've ever seen through ten weeks.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, we can just say that, right, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: You're making that, Jim from the office, look at the
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  Speaker 1: camera there.
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  Speaker 4: I know I just did. I mean, it's just.
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  Speaker 1: And I know you know Aaron Shotts's numbers. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if those are competitors to yours, but they have
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  Speaker 1: historical data of like their DVOA through ten weeks, they're
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  Speaker 1: the number three so far all time, behind the seven
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  Speaker 1: Patriots and one of those Washington teams in the nineties.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's number one.
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  Speaker 1: But the reason why I really liked the seven and
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  Speaker 1: a half was I think the matchups really bad for
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  Speaker 1: the Colts. How did the Colts win last week? Really
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  Speaker 1: difficult throws?
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson went played lights out. This was the best
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  Speaker 4: game he's played in his career.
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  Speaker 3: Two hund and seventy two passing yards and his first
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  Speaker 3: time having a completion percentage overexpected ever.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's how they won, and it's because that's how
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  Speaker 1: they had to win against the Jets, because their run
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  Speaker 1: game wasn't making it happen. Against the Jets, Jonathan Taylor
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  Speaker 1: had one of his worst games of the whole season.
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson quietly had one of his least successful games
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  Speaker 1: on the ground in his career. Now they hit the
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  Speaker 1: design runs on the goal line and that's massive. They
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  Speaker 1: are going to be a really good red zone team,
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  Speaker 1: which is why I think the number is as low,
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  Speaker 1: even as it is, but you think about the matchup.
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  Speaker 1: I think the one way you could beat the Lions
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  Speaker 1: is a running game that can help support. But their
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  Speaker 1: fourth and success rate against in the last month, they're
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  Speaker 1: a really good run stopping team. This is a team
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  Speaker 1: that likes to play a lot of man coverage. I
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  Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to beat them through the air
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  Speaker 1: again through low percentage passes. You're probably gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: be playing from behind because the Colts defense is nothing great.
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  Speaker 1: They just gave up twenty seven to the Jets. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't run on the Jets, So I think the
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  Speaker 1: Colts are okay. This isn't gonna be Jaguars versus Lions
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  Speaker 1: or anything. I'm thinking it's more like a thirty four
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  Speaker 1: to eighteen game.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, you.
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  Speaker 4: Think, pretty darn closed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, no, that was thirty five points last week.
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  Speaker 1: I just mean in the end, maybe it's a ten
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  Speaker 1: point game in the fourth quarter, you're not like not
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  Speaker 1: like sitting back and just got it riding this thing out.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the Lions have too much and you
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  Speaker 1: get Richardson having to pass so much.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a bad recipe.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing I will say about the Lions and
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  Speaker 3: what happened with the Jags is I'm looking at this
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  Speaker 3: team and I think one of their strategies is to
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  Speaker 3: work out some of the kinks. So I think part
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  Speaker 3: of that last week's game against the Jags was to
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  Speaker 3: I mean, sorry against the Texans prior to that, was
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  Speaker 3: to get Jared Goff back in rhythm or whatever you
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  Speaker 3: want to say. And so that's why I think they
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  Speaker 3: kept being aggressive in this game. There is something that
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  Speaker 3: they could look to kind of get knocked their rust
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  Speaker 3: off a little bit, and that's Jared Goff. All nine
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  Speaker 3: of his interceptions have come against his z oone defense,
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  Speaker 3: and nobody plays more zone than the Bolts. So I
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  Speaker 3: agree with you. I actually think the Lions could keep
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  Speaker 3: scoring in that case, just because to me, like that's
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity to they do. This is I don't there
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  Speaker 3: are no words, because it is not something I'm used
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  Speaker 3: to in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, the Lions are good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're not just good.
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  Speaker 1: Cynthia, for those who don't know, it's a diehard Lions fan,
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen her struggle.
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  Speaker 4: It's really hard, it's really really cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tricky spot they're in now because now they're
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  Speaker 1: like I just.
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  Speaker 4: Wish these were week eighteen, right, They're not quite.
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  Speaker 1: Like where Serena way where she said I'm only a
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  Speaker 1: story when I lose, which is a tough place to be.
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  Speaker 1: The Chiefs are in that place, right. The lines aren't
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  Speaker 1: quite there. But at this point, anything short of a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl is a little bit disappointing, which is a
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  Speaker 1: tough spot to be. You just got to get to
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  Speaker 1: the one seat. I think they're really handling success well.
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  Speaker 2: I think they cover seven and a half. What is
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  Speaker 2: your final pick?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so my final pick is Minnesota minus three and
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  Speaker 3: a half. I just think this number isn't right. I
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  Speaker 3: know it's in Chicago. I'm aware that the Bears almost
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  Speaker 3: knocked off the Packers last week. I understand that they
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  Speaker 3: have a new offensive corner. Hey anyone heard that before.
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  Speaker 3: But I also know that the Minnesota Vikings and Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Jones are sitting here being like, ain't no way we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get knocked out of this playoff wild card situation.
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  Speaker 3: Ain't no way we're going to like let the Packers
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  Speaker 3: back into this situation. Three and a half is one
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  Speaker 3: of the numbers, one of the lower numbers on the
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  Speaker 3: entire week. This is a weird week with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of big numbers, so I felt a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: comfortable at just a little bit over a few goal
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  Speaker 3: as opposed to the Denver minus five and a half,
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  Speaker 3: which I also really like. And it was between those
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  Speaker 3: two for me. But I think Minnesota they win by
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  Speaker 3: at least four. I think that it's their defense and
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  Speaker 3: the fact that their defense is very, very good against
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  Speaker 3: the run, where a Chicago's defense, especially without Andrew Billings,
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  Speaker 3: you can run all over these fools. So this is
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  Speaker 3: a situation where I just think Minnesota it's they out
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  Speaker 3: coach on both sides of the football the Bears.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great call the coaching matchup because Thomas Brown,
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  Speaker 1: I think did a great did a great job first
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  Speaker 1: week as his offensive corner. But it's a whole different
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  Speaker 1: matchup having to go against this Brian Flores defense, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be ready for the scrambles
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  Speaker 1: that Caleb Williams of. They'll actually have a week on
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  Speaker 1: tape of what Thomas Brown did, which will help them out.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with you.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go Okay, let's go. Let's be together, because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of made up my mind. I was debating
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  Speaker 1: between two games at the end, which for either Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: or just a gut feel that the Packers are a
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  Speaker 1: better team than the forty nine ers, and that would
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  Speaker 1: have been my fourth pick.
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  Speaker 2: And I know for a fact you're not on that side.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, it doesn't matter, but you help make make up
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  Speaker 1: my decision that my third pick will also be Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: minus three and a half. I've been fading the Bears
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  Speaker 1: all year. It's mostly worked. Last week it very much
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  Speaker 1: did not work. They were outstanding on offense, their defense
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  Speaker 1: was problematic. I do think the Vikings will be able
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  Speaker 1: to run the ball a little bit on Chicago and
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  Speaker 1: potentially get a lead because you're not gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: score a ton, so they can be patient with the
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: running game. I do worry a little bit about Sam
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Darnold against some of the coverage mixes that they can
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: show you. And the Bears have a pretty good pass defense,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: but their past rush has not been nearly as good
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: since the first month of the season when they were
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: getting it done. Not really sure how they were getting
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: it done, but they were getting it done, and they
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: haven't been as good. So I was debating. I was
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: kind of leaning green Bay. I was thinking about just
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: doing Washington just to be your friend here. I like that,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: but I didn't love it. But now we can be
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: aligned because we're we're here together.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Another point and a half.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I think green Bay could have also been like that
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Chicago game could have been a little bit of a
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: trap game because they could have been looking at the
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers this week.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: And you know, obviously yea, I don't care like there.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: You know that, you know Lafleur is not gonna let
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: shant he does not. That is a the Lafleur Shanahan
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: thing is you know, they're all in the same tree,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah like. But I do think it's
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: possible that they could have been looking just a little
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: bit ahead as opposed to focusing on the Bears quite
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: as much, because what you'd seen from the Bears in
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: weeks prior weren't a scary.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Right, and we we tape this before we really know
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the injury report, that's right, and the injury situation, and
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: part of the reason I was in on the Packers
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: are some of the injuries for the forty nine ers.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: But that's kind of uncomfortable to bet on before we
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: really know it. Bosa perty is not one hundred percent.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: If Bosa doesn't play, if George Kittle somehow doesn't play,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: then everything will be different for how I feel A
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Kittle is supposed to play, right, but like supposed to everyone.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Just so you know, and I've said this is Kyle
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Shanhan's face, it's fine. He's a lying liar who lies.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: He doesn't need to tell us. There's no legally bound
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: contract saying that he needs to tell us by this
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: amount of time. He does exactly Friday, the injured report.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: He says what he has to say, ninety minutes before
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: the game. He submits his little sheet. And Christian McCaffrey
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: is a great example of it. Like week one, we're like, oh,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: he's playing, he's playing all of that. It's like ha,
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I are, yeah, okay, But he didn't do anything that
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: was illegal or like not within the bounds of the rules.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: But again, the lying liar who lies strikes again.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Or he could, Wow, I know you hit on something.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: When I saw you got a reaction there in the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: in the studio back there when you called Kyle, we.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Will be fine fibbing fibber who fish you will that
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: as the social No, don't clip that as a social
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: although it's not like he again, he knows, he knows,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: he thinks it's funny.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: He's not doing anything wrong.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, so too, I would lie too.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: You took Washington, Washington for that at least the third
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: straight week you were you were going against. We did
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: it together, couple of straight weeks. And I agree with you.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: It's just not one of my top three. You're also
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: gonna go Chiefs. They're favored by eleven in Carolina. And
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: then we're together. We're taking those road favorites, the Vices
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: in Chicago.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: My three picks.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I like the Titans as an underdog plus eight and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a half. I like the Lions as a favorite on
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the road minus seven and a half road favorites.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: What a world we're in. What a world.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Then I'm with you on Minnesota. My little extra picks
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: for what it's worth. I do like the Packers this week.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to pick the like. I just
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: think I just think they're a better team. Their offense,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: to me, is the one group in this game that
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I really think is close to or is at okay,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: but no, but here's here's what I would say. No,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: they don't have a good pass rush. But the forty
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: nine Ers, they're not the offense that I expected. They
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: need too much of Juwan Jennings. Like Juwan Jennings is
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: their whole offense. It's not the Christian McCaffrey. Their defense,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: whether they have Bosa or not, not what I expected.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Not special Packers defense. Not in love with them to
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: rely on the turnover with that Packers offense, man, I
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: want to see yeah, I want to see you stop
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: them San Francisco, Like that's the part of the game
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that I really trust. Agreed, And so I think they
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: get to twenty five, twenty eight points, and I just
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be too hard.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: You think, wait, hold on, if Party is playing, if
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Bosa is playing, still in on the package, if Kittle's playing,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: You're still in on the pack. Just making sure want
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: to understand.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: But Minnesota is my third pick to be official.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Can you say it right? Please? What Minnesota?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Minnesota?
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Minnesota, And then.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I kind of like the Commanders a little bit, and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that's about it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I do like the Seahawks, but I wouldn't even put
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: them in the box. I just think I think they'll win.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I think the Seahawks are going to win too.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: My only like hesitation is I have done really poorly
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: picking against the Cardinals.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: So I've been picking.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I've been on the Cardinal side all season and that's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: why I'll just stay away from that one.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Let's cross it one out. Uh.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: This was a pleasure as always. Yeah, we're not competing,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: even though we're tied. Well, we are competing, but we're
• 19:04
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• 19:07
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• 19:10
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• 19:10
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• 19:13
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• 19:22
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• 19:24
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• 19:28
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• 19:32
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• 19:34
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• 19:37
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• 19:40
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