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Special "Smither-vent" - Mayor Pureval can't pay his own car yet he wants more of your money · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: It's six o five fifty five KERCD Talks station, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll probably mention it a lot this morning because let's
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  Speaker 1: see folks at Matt Treebrew today Summit Park location for
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  Speaker 1: listener lunch and always enjoy the fellowship. They're kicking off
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six on the right foot. Hopefully that all
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  Speaker 1: these swirling bad news and the craziness going on months,
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  Speaker 1: notably the swear again of FTV provol and his claim
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  Speaker 1: that we need to raise the income tax. At least
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  Speaker 1: he mentioned public safety, but also I guess money for
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  Speaker 1: affordable housing. Welcome back to get it out of your system, Christopher.
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  Speaker 1: I love being a therapy guide for you to help
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  Speaker 1: deal with your mental health challenges, to deal with all
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  Speaker 1: this news. Smither Event Volume two for this week, Christopher Smithman,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to this show, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for having me on. Brian,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for your listening audience. You know, the city
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  Speaker 2: budget is no different than your household, all right, and
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  Speaker 2: every day you've got to wake up and pay for
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  Speaker 2: the operation of your home capital improvements like fixing your
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  Speaker 2: roof or putting in a new HVC unit, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: Ling saying your Duke Energy billing radar, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: walk in around the dinner table and look at your
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  Speaker 2: your spouse or your significant other and say, listen, man,
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  Speaker 2: you know we've got to make some tough choices here.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out and buy
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  Speaker 2: a really nice car, and at the same time, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna cut Netflix, or I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to cut my spectrum bill, or you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to reduce something else. I'm not gonna take that
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  Speaker 2: big trip. I'm gonna do all those things. The problem
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  Speaker 2: with city Hall, it's a spending issue. Let's start with
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  Speaker 2: the operation of the streetcar, not the capitol building of it.
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  Speaker 2: This is what we talked about, Brian to. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the chickens are coming home to roost, right, So I
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  Speaker 2: estimate it's five million dollars a year just to operate
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  Speaker 2: the street car. This council wants to take the second
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  Speaker 2: leg up to UC. Here's what's really happening. They don't
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  Speaker 2: care about police officers's there's nothing that shows you that
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  Speaker 2: they care about law enforcement. This is about generating more
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  Speaker 2: money because the COVID dollars that they've been patting the
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  Speaker 2: budget with are now gone and so now they have
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  Speaker 2: to sit back and really balance the budget. And instead
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  Speaker 2: of balancing the budget, they're going back to the will
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  Speaker 2: and they're saying, let's raise the income tax on the
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  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty thousand or three hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 2: thousand citizens that live in the city of since that
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  Speaker 2: knowing that our property taxes are already going through the roof.
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  Speaker 2: This is just an irresponsible mayor and council that cannot
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  Speaker 2: balance the budget. They keep putting out these off the
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  Speaker 2: contracts like to an Irish rolely as an example, and
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  Speaker 2: you say, well, what is she doing. She's hiring her son,
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  Speaker 2: what's happening with that money? See, this is the kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff where if you're in the city and you're
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  Speaker 2: watching how they manage their budget, and then you're watching
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  Speaker 2: the mayor's personal cars be repolled, you don't trust that
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  Speaker 2: they know what they're doing, And the fact is they don't,
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  Speaker 2: Meaning why don't they make the hard decisions in front
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  Speaker 2: of them, meaning show us that you're willing to reduce
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  Speaker 2: your own spending prior to coming to the taxpayer and
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  Speaker 2: saying will you bail us out for all the irresponsible decisions.
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  Speaker 2: But no, they'll come right back and say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to do the mural, the Black Lives Matter mural.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to spend another million on that. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to do a contract for IRIS. We're going to fire
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  Speaker 2: people irresponsibly and just keep putting money out. We're not
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  Speaker 2: going to reduce any hours on the street car. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to continue to operate at the same level, meaning
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  Speaker 2: at the same time we're going to talk about building
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  Speaker 2: the second thing of the street car. And guess what,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to tax all of you even more money
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  Speaker 2: and tell you it's about cops. Well, it has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with cops, nothing to do with it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, don't overlook the very large checks they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be writing to the former fire chief and probably police
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  Speaker 1: former chief Fiji when they settle out their employment dispute
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  Speaker 1: discrimination cases. That's millions of dollars right there. I suspect
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  Speaker 1: that will be.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely What they're really trying to do, what this mayor
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  Speaker 2: pure val is really doing, is he's trying to pit
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  Speaker 2: police officers against conservative voters. So what they're setting us
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  Speaker 2: up to say is this is a narrative if you
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  Speaker 2: vote against us raising the income tax. You're voting against
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  Speaker 2: cops as if he's for cops. Right. So, there are
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  Speaker 2: lots of things that are funded in the operating budget
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  Speaker 2: outside of police officers. But what he's trying to do
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  Speaker 2: is pit the profession against all of the citizens of
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati who say, we want to be safe and you
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  Speaker 2: haven't been able to deliver safety to us. It's not
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  Speaker 2: about raising taxes to the public. This is a council
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  Speaker 2: with the mayor that you voted for. Elections have consequences,
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  Speaker 2: and so whether it's the eight million dollar settlement for
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  Speaker 2: those who were downtown who are acting crazy and we're
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  Speaker 2: arrested and we're now paying them off on that settlement,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's an Irish rolely contract, whether it's the operation
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  Speaker 2: of the street car, you name it, I guarantee you
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  Speaker 2: you and I could put a fine too to this
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  Speaker 2: budget and cut things that they are going to be
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  Speaker 2: uncomfortable with. But we can find ten or fifteen million
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year in operating that we shouldn't spend before
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  Speaker 2: we raise any taxes on the public. They'll never do it.
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  Speaker 2: This is about this is a spending issue. This is
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  Speaker 2: about raising our taxes Brian Thomas, and they just don't
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  Speaker 2: ultimately care. The last thing I'll say is, remember this
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  Speaker 2: is a Democratic council that said as they care about
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  Speaker 2: the poor. This is it that Democratic council, we care
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  Speaker 2: about affordable housing. How do they think that everyday people
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  Speaker 2: can pay for increases in property taxes? The widow or
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  Speaker 2: widower out there who's our fixed income, how do they
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  Speaker 2: think on a Social Security check that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: pay for these increases in property and income tax and
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  Speaker 2: thieves that they keep slamming us with, which makes Cincinnati
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  Speaker 2: one of the most expensive places in our state to live.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you got a lot of unpackage on that there.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, I guess when you going back to your
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  Speaker 1: comment about this as an effort to pitt conservative voters
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  Speaker 1: against Democrat voters, you presume, and I think it's fairly accurate.
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  Speaker 1: Conservatives tend to be pro law enforcement, and we certainly
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  Speaker 1: agree that there should be more law enforcement officers in
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  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati in order to improve the crime situation. That's
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  Speaker 1: a logical response to crime. But this is so much
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  Speaker 1: more than that. So first off, let me just say
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  Speaker 1: there don't appear to be a whole lot of conservative
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  Speaker 1: voters in the city of Cincinnati. As I stare at
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  Speaker 1: my the chart in the aftermath the last election, where
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  Speaker 1: it's basically solid blue with the exception of Californian Riverside
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  Speaker 1: and saleor Park. So I'm not sure there are that
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  Speaker 1: many conservatives out there to even vote one way or
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  Speaker 1: the other. But when you start saying further prioritize public
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  Speaker 1: safety investments, support police and fire, also empower us to
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  Speaker 1: invest in affordable housing. I don't know what these words mean,
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  Speaker 1: but he said them. Provol catalyze neighborhoods that have not
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  Speaker 1: shared in our growth, and support programs that will help
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  Speaker 1: build our minority owned businesses. All of that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be accomplished with some percent increase in the income tax.
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  Speaker 1: If it was just law enforcement, if they presented us
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  Speaker 1: a budgetary scenario, going back to your budget comment, Look,
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  Speaker 1: we're in trouble. We need to hire more police officers,
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  Speaker 1: and in order to do that, we're gonna have to pay
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  Speaker 1: them more because nobody wants to work in the city
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  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, where everyone thinks the police suck. It's only
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  Speaker 1: for police. No other programs are going to benefit from
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  Speaker 1: the money. It's going to bring in x millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to use it all to hire police and
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  Speaker 1: improve public safety, period end of story. That might sell
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  Speaker 1: as a proposition, but this is have to have purvol
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  Speaker 1: so it's not about public safety. In fact, check out
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  Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer's post. Here's what he said just nine hours ago.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently city Hall was wasting no time to try to
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  Speaker 1: raise the earnings tax. The mayor and council would like
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  Speaker 1: to keep spending more and more tax payer money to
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  Speaker 1: quote disrupt poverty close quote until they get it right
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  Speaker 1: or the city, its businesses, and its taxpayers go broke
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  Speaker 1: trying I put my money on the ladder, Todd says,
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  Speaker 1: to my point, disrupting poverty was basically the same purpose
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  Speaker 1: the Mayor's cited for his twenty twenty two tax increase,
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  Speaker 1: except then they raised property taxes in the city, and
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  Speaker 1: there was no mention about public city in the mayor's
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  Speaker 1: motion whatsoever. His motion post to bluss. We can even
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  Speaker 1: read what he wrote back then. So instead of increasing
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  Speaker 1: the earning tax, Todd says the city should increase fraud
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  Speaker 1: prevention and detection. He says, there are quite a few
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  Speaker 1: of us out here who would be willing to help
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  Speaker 1: the city to do that, I e. Todd Zenzer. Same time,
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  Speaker 1: it would help the mayor keep this twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: promise of no new taxes, which is another reference going
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  Speaker 1: back to what the mayor previously said, no new taxes.
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  Speaker 1: Remember George Bush said that and he ended up losing
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  Speaker 1: an election over raising taxes. Hey, I have to have
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  Speaker 1: provall what about your twenty twenty three promise.
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  Speaker 2: Corey Bowman was on the ballot and we had an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to elect a new mayor, and that was in November.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about this in January. The mayor knew all
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  Speaker 2: of this prior to the election. This is absolutely a
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  Speaker 2: bait and switch. And the other thing that I want
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  Speaker 2: to want to highlight about this, and I agree with
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  Speaker 2: what Todd is saying, but if this mayor really wanted
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  Speaker 2: this to be about public safety. And I hope the
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  Speaker 2: president of the FOP is listening our signal ninety nine,
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  Speaker 2: who I know will be on on Friday. I'll be
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  Speaker 2: listening at eight am.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Den Cooper is on at the bottom of this hour,
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  Speaker 1: so we're going to be hearing from him shortly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll to your entire show. What I'm saying is
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  Speaker 2: why not then do a dedicated income taxes is what
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  Speaker 2: you're leading to, or say just for cops, meaning if
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  Speaker 2: this is about cops, why not say, Okay, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to raise the income tax for this amount of money,
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  Speaker 2: and it is just for police officers. It cannot be used.
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  Speaker 2: It is restricted just for cops. That's not what they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to do. And that's what you're talking about, Brian Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: and to the public. It's something they can do. There
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  Speaker 2: are other cities that have done it because it's not
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  Speaker 2: what they're trying to do. They're worried about the operating
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  Speaker 2: budget and this is fungible and they're trying to operate
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  Speaker 2: the street car and do all these other little special
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  Speaker 2: programs and pay all these people all this money. They're
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  Speaker 2: not interested in cops. They're trying to pit mean, you
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  Speaker 2: are people like myself who support law enforcement. When we
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  Speaker 2: come out and we say vote no on this, or
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  Speaker 2: we decide to pick up a petition and collect signatures.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I like that. Let's hold on, Christopher, Let's elaborate
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit. Let's paust I'll bring it right
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  Speaker 1: back to this. I sort to ask you an out
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  Speaker 1: loud question about where's the railroad money? One more with
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Smith before we get to Ken Cober at the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of this hour. First plumb type plumbing. It's always
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  Speaker 1: viactation A very happy Wednesday to You're gonna be an
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  Speaker 1: especially happy Friday. I was just talking with Joe Strecker
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  Speaker 1: about this and Christopher mentioned it out loud. I was
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  Speaker 1: going to bring it up this morning before we get
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  Speaker 1: back to Christopher Smith and with volume two of the
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  Speaker 1: Smith Event this week, Signal ninety nine will be on
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  Speaker 1: the program eight A I'm on Friday. If you're not
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  Speaker 1: familiar with Signal ninety nine, you need to be go
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  Speaker 1: over to Facebook and just follow her. Former police officer
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  Speaker 1: Carolyn will be joining the program. Outspoken and well connected
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  Speaker 1: she is in terms of the information that she shares
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  Speaker 1: to her followers. It's just it's hilarious stuff and quite
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  Speaker 1: often it's a little painful to see the reality of
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  Speaker 1: what's going on in the city. Back to Christopher, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: where's the railroad money? Christopher, I thought we were going
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  Speaker 1: to get a big wind fall from that billion dollar investment,
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  Speaker 1: and what wouldn't that solve some of the finances pro
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  Speaker 1: and why do we need a tax increase. Have we
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  Speaker 1: got all this new revenue coming in, Christopher.
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  Speaker 2: Well, those are capital dollars, but it's a big pot
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with you. There's no transparency around those dollars,
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  Speaker 2: how they're being invested, how much money is coming in.
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  Speaker 2: And this was my big issue too, was the land,
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  Speaker 2: the three hundred miles all the way to Tennessee that
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  Speaker 2: our forefathers had for us. There was no other city
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  Speaker 2: that I know of in the United States of America,
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  Speaker 2: but definitely in the state of Ohio who had three
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  Speaker 2: hundred miles of rail that we own. And we were
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  Speaker 2: bringing in about thirty six million dollars and it would
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  Speaker 2: have been forty six million before we clicked our heills
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  Speaker 2: three times. It was a terrible transaction by this mayor
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  Speaker 2: to sell our railroad. But here's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: result of this, Brian Thomas. People are leaving Cincinnati. Those
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  Speaker 2: who can get out are leaving. They're selling their businesses
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  Speaker 2: that they don't want to pay the income tax, and
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  Speaker 2: they are taking their residents outside of the city of Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: So the reality of it is they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: more and more people. Now, how do I know this?
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  Speaker 2: How do I say that with certainty because of the profession.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a financial planner. I'm telling you what my clients
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  Speaker 2: are telling me. They're saying, I'm out of here. I
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  Speaker 2: cannot afford the property taxes, or I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: pay the property taxes.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe the crime or maybe it's crime too, or.
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  Speaker 2: It's crime too. But they're saying, listen, I would be
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  Speaker 2: willing to pay. I just did it. I'm looking. I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking about a clinic. I just did a financial review
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  Speaker 2: of crimes, and the client said to me, I would
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  Speaker 2: be willing to pay the taxes if I got the service.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem is the city is so dog gone dirty.
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  Speaker 2: When they miss my trash or they don't pick up
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  Speaker 2: my trash, they won't come back and get it. I've
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  Speaker 2: got potholes all around me, tearing up my nice car,
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  Speaker 2: my nice vehicle. Right, Or if I call the police,
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  Speaker 2: I don't get the response I want. Not because it's
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  Speaker 2: the police is because they will not invest in officers.
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  Speaker 2: If I just moved out into the county, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: get better services. I'm even gonna pay lower taxes, right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be safer, and so
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  Speaker 2: what's happening is people are leaving those who can leave
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  Speaker 2: relief this move that the mayorage making. Watch what I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you, population is gonna drop, It's not gonna go higher.
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  Speaker 2: People are gonna say I can't afford it, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just gonna move somewhere else. People who are earning, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna take their businesses right.
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  Speaker 1: People who are earning a living and paying income tax.
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  Speaker 1: You can't lose those people. Wasn't that the point of
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  Speaker 1: gentrifying over the Rhine and building all the urban hipster
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  Speaker 1: paradise places to live so they would bring in people
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  Speaker 1: who actually worked and paid taxes in the city. Christopher,
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly that. That's the sweet spot those that you
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  Speaker 1: need to make it a more welcome environment for people
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  Speaker 1: who are paying into the system. It's a great point
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  Speaker 1: your client made. You know what, I'm not getting a
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  Speaker 1: return on my taxpayer investment. I mean, you'd be willing
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  Speaker 1: to pay taxes if it resulted in something positive in
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  Speaker 1: your world. It's like going out and buying something. You
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  Speaker 1: choose to purchase something because it's going to benefit you
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  Speaker 1: in some way. You get value for the money. You're
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  Speaker 1: not getting value for your taxpayer dollars in the city.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, And then they'll say to me, well, Christopher, I'm
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  Speaker 2: already sending my kid to say that I'm already sending
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  Speaker 2: my kids deceit. And so my kid is not in
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  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati public school system, but sixty five percent of
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  Speaker 2: my property taxes are the public school system. Why am
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  Speaker 2: I paying all these taxes? And then if I then
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  Speaker 2: those who are living in the county are frustrated because
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  Speaker 2: they say, I work in the city and I'm paying
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  Speaker 2: for ear tacks. I work for proper example, But I
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  Speaker 2: can't vote for any of these people. I can't vote
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  Speaker 2: any of them out. I have no control over it.
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  Speaker 2: So what you're seeing is businesses are saying and my
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  Speaker 2: heart goes out to Taste of Belgium who's filing for
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  Speaker 2: bank Trusty at what their situation too was. But all
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you is the lack of foot traffic
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  Speaker 2: certainly didn't help their situation. The crime levels in the
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  Speaker 2: downtown area on the banks and then over the Rhine
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  Speaker 2: didn't help them. And to your point, Brian Thomas, all
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  Speaker 2: of those people that have invested not one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 2: millions of dollars in their housing. They have reached in OTR.
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  Speaker 2: There are beautiful spaces that people have retired, their children
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  Speaker 2: have moved. They said, I'm going to move into the OTR.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to create this really cool space. But guess what.
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  Speaker 2: The crime is out of control, and their investments that
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  Speaker 2: they've made are at risk, and you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: those people say what you're talking about, I'm getting the
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  Speaker 2: heck out of downtown. I thought this was going to
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  Speaker 2: be cool. The city sold me a bill of goods.
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  Speaker 2: They're raising my coxtus, my property taxes, but they also
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  Speaker 2: can't keep me safe. This increase, this increase, Brian Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: isn't going to make anybody safer. And there are people
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  Speaker 2: out there, because my phone is already ringing, who are considering,
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  Speaker 2: why don't we just drop a petition on them, stop
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  Speaker 2: them at the gates, at the barbarian at the gates.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell them, no more, no more, no more. But
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  Speaker 2: what we don't want are cops pitting cops against the issue,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what the mayor is trying to do. This
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  Speaker 2: is not about cops for him. This is about all
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  Speaker 2: of that other stuff that you're talking about, and cops
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  Speaker 2: are the lowest in his mind that on the total
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  Speaker 2: poll as car as what he's interested to.
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  Speaker 1: Take for And in terms of the businesses you're referring to,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's implicit in your comments, but I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: want to say it straightforward and out loud. Those businesses
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: relied not just on residents that live within the city.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: They rely on people who want to come into the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: city to spend money, who want to come into the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: city and go to Ruby's or some of the other
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: restaurants that are down there that are great. But you
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: know what, who among us has not talked to a
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: person who said, I am not going to the city
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: anymore because I'm afraid of the crime. I have heard
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: that from so many people. It's almost like the norm.
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  Speaker 1: Whether or not it's an appropriate conclusion, because I like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: downtown and I think there's some great stuff down there
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: that it is definitely either that is attractive to me.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But you know what, lingering in the back of my
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: mind is the same thing. You know, I saw the
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  Speaker 1: beat down on film, you know from last year. I've
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: seen the crime statistics. Eleven year old gets a randomly
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  Speaker 1: shot that could be anybody, doesn't have to be eleven
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  Speaker 1: year old girl in a park. It could be literally
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: anyone who's the victim of random gunfire. Do you want
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to be that person?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to be subjected to that in Oh,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Westchester or Anderson or Hyde Park. Probably not,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: but it may very well happen in the high crime
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  Speaker 1: areas of the city where a lot of businesses have
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: invested a lot of money hoping people will come in
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  Speaker 1: and spend it. It's a downward spiral.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. Brian Thomas is, then how do they
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: respond to those things? Meaning when the eleven year old
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: girl is shot, how do they respond to it? Right?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: When when when the citizens were beat up in the downtown,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: how did they respond? They deserved it, they got what
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: they was coming to them. That is how city council
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and this mayor responded to it. So the reality of
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: it is I feel bad for those businesses that are
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a down town. I absolutely we do. My heart goes
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: out to this. But I'm also not going to get
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: on this radio station in lie and say that Cincinnati
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: is safe until it is safe, until the reality of
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: it is of many of these neighborhoods have voted for this.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: They voted for this mayor, they voted for this council.
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  Speaker 2: Elections have consequences.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, you have consequences too. That's why I love you.
• 19:19
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• 19:22
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• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and you're more than welcome, and I thank you for
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: helping out. We're going to continue this conversation.