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Bonus Episode: The Sonic Youth New York Kool Thing Walking Tour · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party. It's the bridge to get you from one
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Speaker 1: full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard, to
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Speaker 1: dig into the dirt, and our mission is to uncover
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Speaker 1: the truth and to confront the myth and to reclaim
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Speaker 1: the story. On this bonus episode, we're taking a walk
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Speaker 1: through New York to some of the coolest rock and
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Speaker 1: roll history addresses with Bob Dylan and Sid Vicious, the
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Speaker 1: Rolling Stones, Marty Scorsese, Miles and Iggy Jackson and Nico Yoko, John,
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Speaker 1: the IRA, the FBI, and more, plus your voicemails, tech emails, comments, dms,
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Speaker 1: and as always a whole lot of Rosie. This is
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Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent
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Speaker 1: thinkers who know that the best history is the history
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Speaker 1: that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories
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Speaker 1: they didn't want told, the kind that you'll end up
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Speaker 1: telling somebody else. All Right, this goes, let's get into it, guys.
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Speaker 1: I am here, And if you're hearing an extra pep
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Speaker 1: in my step this morning, it's because I got this
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Speaker 1: new recording, sitch, and I'm really liking the way I sound.
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Speaker 1: From me honest with you. Oh, we had some Sonic
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Speaker 1: Youth noise stuck in our phones for the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks. We couldn't figure out what the hell it was.
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Speaker 1: I feel like we have hopefully sounds good to me. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: I hope it sounds good to you. I' psyched to
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Speaker 1: be talking to y'all. I was thinking about Sonic Youth
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Speaker 1: this morning in the context of the story that we
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Speaker 1: just told this week, and specifically about the concept of cool.
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Speaker 1: You were just the coolest. They knew they were the coolest.
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Speaker 1: They sounded the coolest, look the coolest. Didn't seem to
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Speaker 1: care if we thought they were the coolest or not either,
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Speaker 1: And you know that's a hallmark for being cool, not
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Speaker 1: giving a shit. So they weren't just one of the
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Speaker 1: coolest New York bands of all time, which is saying something.
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Speaker 1: They were one of the coolest bands of all time.
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Speaker 1: They influenced so many groups, so many artists, so many writers,
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Speaker 1: hell even podcasters like yours. Truly, there is some unfortunate scandal. Drama,
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Speaker 1: really not so much scandal. I guess I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Kind those two words are kind of they kind of
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Speaker 1: mean the same thing. At the tail end of Sonic
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Speaker 1: Youth's story, talking of course about Thurston Moore is a
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Speaker 1: fair in betrayal of his bandmate and wife, Kim Gordon,
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Speaker 1: who is beloved by fans, and that betrayal likely means
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Speaker 1: that Sonic Youth's story is indeed dead, as dead as
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Speaker 1: Nancy Spongent in the Chelsea Hotel. Nancy is never coming back,
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Speaker 1: and neither is Sonic Youth. Nancy's death, her murder by well,
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Speaker 1: we still don't know who murdered her. Most people believe
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Speaker 1: sid Vicious did it. Others believe it was drug dealer,
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Speaker 1: a fixture on the downtown scene whose name shehall go
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Speaker 1: unmentioned here in this podcast, because well, he's still out
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Speaker 1: there in any event. Nancy Spongeen's death in Room one
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Speaker 1: hundred at the Chelsea Hotel on West twenty third Street
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Speaker 1: in October nineteen seventy eight is a mythic New York
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Speaker 1: rock and roll event. Now, Nancy wasn't that influential. She
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Speaker 1: was cool, I guess, but she wasn't in a band,
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Speaker 1: and she wasn't influential in the way that Kim Gordon
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Speaker 1: from Sonic Youth was influential is influential, or in the
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Speaker 1: way that her Sex Pistols boyfriend said Vicious was influential.
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Speaker 1: She died in the Chelsea Hotel. Like I said, Now,
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Speaker 1: if you walk outside the Chelsea and you continue onto
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Speaker 1: this New York Sonic Youth cool thing walking tour that
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Speaker 1: we're about to embark upon, and you head over to
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Speaker 1: Eighth Avenue and then south for about a mile, you're
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Speaker 1: going to run into Bank Street. And that's where Sid
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Speaker 1: Vicius died. It was a couple months later, and I
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Speaker 1: believe he died from a hot shot given to him
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Speaker 1: from his mother in a mercy kill. That happened at
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Speaker 1: sixty three Bank Street in the West Village. And that happened,
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Speaker 1: like I said, a few months later, in February of
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. Now, Sid's death took place steps away
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Speaker 1: from one oh five Bank Street, and that's where John
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Speaker 1: Lennon and Yoko Ono lived between the years nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: three and nineteen seventy five, so a couple years before
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Speaker 1: sid Visius died. On at Bank Street, John Lennon and
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Speaker 1: Yoko Owner lived there nineteen seventy three to nineteen seventy five.
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Speaker 1: This is the era when the FBI was tapping their
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Speaker 1: phone and everyone remembers John and Yoko living in the
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Speaker 1: posh Dakota building uptown, but before they fully settled into
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Speaker 1: the bourgeois lifestyle that's so angered and triggered John's assassin,
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Speaker 1: Mark David Chapman, John and Yoko slummed it in a
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Speaker 1: two room, one bedroom apartment on Bank Street. That's where
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Speaker 1: John entertained Black panthers and Ira gun runners. It's also
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Speaker 1: where he was robbed and had his TV stolen in
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Speaker 1: That really pissed John Lenon off because John Lennon loved
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Speaker 1: that TV set. He also loved his buddy Bob Dylan.
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Speaker 1: Now Bob Dylan lived a short walk away a bit
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Speaker 1: further south in the village at ninety four McDougall Street
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Speaker 1: now McDougall is where Bob was sitting on a stoop
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Speaker 1: when he spotted aj Weberman one afternoon in nineteen seventy one,
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Speaker 1: Bob chased him on foot over to Elizabeth Street and
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Speaker 1: proceeded to beat the shit out of aj Weberman. Now
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Street is where the most rock and roll movie
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Speaker 1: director of all time grew up, Martin Scorsese. Marty based
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Speaker 1: Mean Streets on his formative experiences in that neighborhood, like
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Speaker 1: hearing the Rolling Stones is Jumping Jack Flash for the
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Speaker 1: first time Now. That song was released in nineteen sixty eight.
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Speaker 1: Thirteen years later, The Rolling Stones would film a music
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Speaker 1: video for another song, Waiting on a Friend, on an
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Speaker 1: apartment stoop, just a few blocks away at ninety six
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Speaker 1: Saint Mark's Place. Ninety six to ninety eight Saint Mark's
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Speaker 1: is also the address of the building on the cover
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Speaker 1: of Lead Zeppelin's nineteen seventy five album Physical Graffiti. Don't
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Speaker 1: ask me how that happened. I don't know. I do
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Speaker 1: know that this building is on the same block as
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Speaker 1: nineteen dashed twenty five Saint Mark's, which is where the
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Speaker 1: DOM was located. The Dom means home in Polish. The
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Speaker 1: DOM was home to the Velvet Underground in nineteen sixty six.
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Speaker 1: It's where they brought out their whip for Andy Warhol,
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Speaker 1: and it's where Jackson Brown hooked up with Nico. Nico
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Speaker 1: later hooked up with Iggy Pop when Iggy first arrived
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Speaker 1: in New York City in late nineteen sixty nine with
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Speaker 1: the Stooges. Now, if you take public transport uptown from
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Speaker 1: Saint Mark's, about sixty or so blocks on the west side,
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Speaker 1: you're going to find two ten West seventieth Street. That's
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Speaker 1: where Anganos was. Angano's was the place where Iggy Pop's
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Speaker 1: Stooges set up a multi night residency in nineteen seventy.
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Speaker 1: Miles Davis lived around the corner at three twelve West
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Speaker 1: seventy seventh. Miles saw those early Stooges shows. He was there.
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Speaker 1: He was hanging out with them backstage, Hoover and up
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Speaker 1: lines of blow Miles Davis the Stooges. Can you believe
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Speaker 1: that Miles was far fucking out? I can believe it. Miles'
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Speaker 1: Upper West Side home was nearby Birdland, which was just
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Speaker 1: south on Broadway down on fifty second Street. Birdland is
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Speaker 1: where Miles got his face beat in by a racist cop.
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Speaker 1: That was in nineteen fifty nine. New York City took
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Speaker 1: Miles's cabaret card, which effectively banned Miles from playing music
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Speaker 1: live in the city. In response, Miles headed just south
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Speaker 1: of Midtown to two oh seven East thirtieth and hold
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Speaker 1: up in Columbia's thirtieth Street Studio, And when he emerged
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Speaker 1: six months later, Miles Davis did so with a masterpiece,
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Speaker 1: Sketches of Spain, one of the coolest albums of all time.
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Speaker 1: Take that Racist Cop, And thus concludes our New York
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Speaker 1: Sonic Youth Cool Thing Walking Tour. We hope you enjoyed it.
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Speaker 1: Please remember to tip your guide on your way out,
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Speaker 1: and you can do so by becoming an all access
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Speaker 1: member of Disgraceland. And when you do, you're gonna get
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Speaker 1: Zeth and I later in this exclusive section of this
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Speaker 1: year After Party, discussing one of the wilder events for
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Speaker 1: music history, an event that I just breezed by here,
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Speaker 1: and it was that time I'm the Bob Dylan chase
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Speaker 1: down one of his stalkers and beat the piss out
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Speaker 1: of him in the middle of the day, right there
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Speaker 1: in downtown New York. Now this event is part of
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Speaker 1: our larger Bob Dylan Part two story, but it's so
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Speaker 1: insane it deserves a deeper conversation. So that's a Zeth
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Speaker 1: and I are doing today in the exclusive section of
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Speaker 1: free listening. All right, Sonic Youth, Thurston was there, man,
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Speaker 1: you know it? Speaking of Bob Dylan and Thurston More.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I need a break. That was a lot.
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Speaker 1: I kind of went for it. There you guys still
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Speaker 1: with me? I hope, so I need some coffee. Hang on.
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Speaker 1: I was thinking of Thurston More and Sonic Youth, and
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Speaker 1: I was thinking of all these incredible characters at the
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Speaker 1: same time in New York City, Thirst and More, Saucid Vicious,
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Speaker 1: Thirst and More. Sau said Vicious. Where was the famous
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Speaker 1: Sid show Max's Yes, he was there as I put
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Speaker 1: in our episode, and I I just loved the idea
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Speaker 1: that you have this, this this wild connection between the
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Speaker 1: modernity of Sonic Youth in the eighties, Downtown Cool to Sid,
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Speaker 1: Vicious and Nancy to John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Marty Scorsese,
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Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin. I just it's just fascinating
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Speaker 1: to me. It's all kind of right there. It's amazing
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Speaker 1: I'm not telling anything anybody anything.
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Speaker 2: They don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's just when you put it in this context, it
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Speaker 1: strikes me as being incredibly compelling. Bob Dylan moved after
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Speaker 1: that event with Weberman, a J. Webman. He moved out
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Speaker 1: of New York to West Coast, to the West Coast
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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, Malibu. That's when that part of his
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Speaker 1: life started. But of course he came back to New
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Speaker 1: York and like I said, you get thirston More there
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Speaker 1: in the eighties. I was imagining, as I was putting
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Speaker 1: this all together in my head this morning, I was
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Speaker 1: imagining Bob Dylan kicking Thurston Moore's ass. Not now, but
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Speaker 1: like in nineteen eighty five, like nineteen eighty five, thirst
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Speaker 1: and More. You know, back in the day, Thurston More
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Speaker 1: Sonic Youth is just starting to take off downtown, Thurston's
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Speaker 1: hot shit. Dylan's back in the city for whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: and he somehow encounters Thurston, who acts duche sheet to Dylan.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're at Bleaker, Bob's arguing over who get their
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Speaker 1: hands on the vinyl copy of Sunrise Jazz and Silhouette first.
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Speaker 1: Thurston gets cute says something like, you haven't written a
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Speaker 1: good song since. Blinded by the light, Bob hauls off
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Speaker 1: cracks him right there in the experimental jazz section. Thurston
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Speaker 1: gets up, grabs a first pressing copy of Joy Divisions,
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Speaker 1: Unknown Pleasures off the wall, and he frisbees it at
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Speaker 1: Bob's head. Bob Ducks grabs a stack of Mitch Miller
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Speaker 1: records from the Discount Been hurls those at Thurston, and
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Speaker 1: then Bob just pulls up his hoodie, ducks out onto
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Speaker 1: West Third, walks away into the UH, into the into
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Speaker 1: the New York sunset. Kinda kind of wouldn't wouldn't mind
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Speaker 1: seeing that happen. It didn't happen. It's not gonna happen. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe did. We don't know about it anyway? Where was I? Yes,
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Speaker 1: Sonic Youth in the feed this week coming up in
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Speaker 1: the rewind slot right after this our episode on Jazz Buckley,
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Speaker 1: our classic episode on Jeff Buckley. Then next week our
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Speaker 1: new episode on Wendy OH Williams. The Wendy O Williams episode.
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Speaker 1: It's a shocking story. It's a sad episode. It's a
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Speaker 1: revealing episode. It's a rock and roll episode, and kind
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Speaker 1: of like this episode, it's a new York episode New
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Speaker 1: York in the nineteen seventies. It's all about the cost,
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Speaker 1: the cost that artists, real artists sometimes have to pay.
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Speaker 1: Rock and roll is a filthy, fucking business and it
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Speaker 1: will break your heart if you're not careful. And when
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Speaker 1: you're listening to the Wendy o Williams episode, be thinking
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Speaker 1: about her on stage antics and think about all the
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Speaker 1: shows and concerts that you've seen in your life, maybe
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Speaker 1: some recently, maybe some back in the day, who knows,
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Speaker 1: and be thinking about what the craziest thing that you
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Speaker 1: ever saw and artist do on stage was. That's going
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Speaker 1: to be the question of the week. What's the craziest
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Speaker 1: thing you've ever seen and artist do on stage? Six
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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight voicemail
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Speaker 1: and text. I want to know let me know. You
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Speaker 1: might hear yourself on next week's after party. Don't go anywhere, guys,
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Speaker 1: I'll be right back after this with your comments, emails, text,
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Speaker 1: voicemails and more. Six one seven nine h six sixty
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Speaker 1: six three eight voicemail and text. I'm in the phone booth.
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Speaker 1: It's the one across the hall. I'm not hanging out
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Speaker 1: with Debbie Harry she's in a VW bug with Ted
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Speaker 1: Bundy somewhere. What are we talking about? We're talking about
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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, guys. And that's what I love
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Speaker 1: about our conversation. It's all over the flip and map,
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Speaker 1: it's all connected to music, it's all connected to true crime.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from Laura in the five eight five.
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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Laura from the five eighty five. Just
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Speaker 2: had to call you out after hearing for the third
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Speaker 2: time you ends up talk about the lyrics like Jones
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Speaker 2: on the box being from the Weight. It is not.
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Speaker 2: It is from up on Creek. So anyway, you had
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Speaker 2: me ranching the sitre this morning while I was walking
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Speaker 2: my dog, So just wanted to call you to set
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Speaker 2: the record straight. Rock and Roll.
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Speaker 3: Keep up the good work, Laura.
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I I'm just going with faith here
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Speaker 1: that you're right. I know this is up on Cripple Creek.
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Speaker 1: That I meant, I could have mentioned the weight. I
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Speaker 1: meant up on Cripple Creek. Damn, man, we're talking a lot.
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Speaker 1: We're talking a lot of shit, and uh yeah, we
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Speaker 1: mess things up from time to time, as you know.
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Speaker 1: And I appreciate the correction. Thank you, Laura Spike Jones
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Speaker 1: on the box from the Great Band on their great
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Speaker 1: song The Weight written by the Staples, and I'm kidding,
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Speaker 1: I'm fucking with you, of course up on Cripple Creek.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Laura. Let's check in with the
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Speaker 1: four one four, Hey Chase, Oh man, It's so very
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Speaker 1: hard to narrow it down to just four musicians that
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Speaker 1: died too young.
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Speaker 2: So I had to make outside of the twenty seven
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Speaker 2: clubs because I feel like a lot of people know.
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Speaker 4: Those They're big names.
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Speaker 2: But that's why any wine House and Janis Joplin are
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Speaker 2: not on my list. So here we go, all right.
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Speaker 1: My four would be Otis Reddick, Dwayne Almon, Katie Klein,
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Speaker 1: and the Grievous.
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Speaker 2: Angels himself Grand Parsons.
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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed listening to the pod.
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Speaker 2: I've been listening for many, many, many years, and.
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Speaker 4: It's just a delight to be in this community with
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Speaker 4: so many other youth lovers and learn.
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Speaker 1: So much about.
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Speaker 2: Stories we may not know and some that we already do.
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Speaker 1: So thanks for what you do. Four one four, Thank
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Speaker 1: you for this message. This is a great way to
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Speaker 1: think about it. You can't you can have a mount
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Speaker 1: Rushmore of artists who died too young, and you can't
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Speaker 1: use any from the twenty seven club. I love that.
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Speaker 1: And what a selection here to otis Redding, Patsy Kleine
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Speaker 1: Grand Parsons and Dwayne Almond. That's that's I'd pay to
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Speaker 1: see that. Where would we put it? Which state? All right,
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Speaker 1: let's go to the nine to seventy.
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Speaker 4: Just finish your Ian Watkins episode, which I wasn't really
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Speaker 4: sure if I wanted to listen to knowing just.
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Speaker 3: The small but most awful details of the story. I did,
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Speaker 3: and I was surprised at how much detail.
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Speaker 4: You shared, and I was getting surprised and frankly suppressed
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Speaker 4: that you were able to do so occasionally, I suppose,
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Speaker 4: is what I want to say, though it feels ought
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Speaker 4: to use.
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Speaker 5: That word, but more so in a way that.
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Speaker 3: Makes it worth talking about, helpful, productive to talk about,
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Speaker 3: because I am a not how advocate professional, and I
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Speaker 3: do believe that to protect the most vulnerable children, in
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Speaker 3: this case literal babies, things like this, as horrific as
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Speaker 3: they are to warrant.
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Speaker 5: Some full of investigation and structure. And I'm glad he's
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Speaker 5: not around anymore.
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad that we were able to discuss it in.
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Speaker 5: A way that centers the victims anyway, I guess a
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Speaker 5: great job, and thanks for sharing, all.
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Speaker 1: Right, nine seventy eight, Thanks so much. Yeah. Tough subject
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Speaker 1: and one that I avoided for a really long time,
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Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, just the subject of child abuse
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Speaker 1: in general is something that I told myself early on.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to discuss just because I didn't want
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Speaker 1: my head in that space. And I'm not sure other
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Speaker 1: people want their heads in that space either, But I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Something about the Ian Walkins thing was was
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Speaker 1: so just compelled me to learn more and to learn more,
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Speaker 1: until finally I was like, Okay, I have to write this,
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Speaker 1: and I did, and I was very careful, as you
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Speaker 1: could hear, and I appreciate you saying so. I was
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Speaker 1: very careful with how I depicted what happened, and I
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Speaker 1: was trying to be respectful to the victims. I did
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Speaker 1: receive a couple, from being honest, a couple of angry
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Speaker 1: emails from folks, and I get it, and I get it.
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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I get it. But
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Speaker 1: I think that these stories, even though I don't want
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Speaker 1: to tell them, all the time. I think they do
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Speaker 1: deserve to be told, and I came at it hopefully
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Speaker 1: with the proper level of sensitivity. All right, let's go
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Speaker 1: to some texts, shall we. Lisa from the nine oh
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Speaker 1: seven right said, Hey, the blockbuster album that didn't work
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Speaker 1: for me was Dirt by Alice in Chains. I have
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Speaker 1: no better reason than my boyfriend and future ex husband
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Speaker 1: loved it. He ruined all grunge for me. Maybe I'll
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Speaker 1: be able to appreciate it in a future decade or lifetime,
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Speaker 1: but thirty years in I still can't. Lisa from the
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Speaker 1: nine oh seven I added that bit about the lifetime
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Speaker 1: Lisa just having some fun man, and this sucks. This sucks.
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Speaker 1: I would hate to have an entire genre of music
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Speaker 1: ruined for me because of a shitty X. But Lisa,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the text. Sounds like you gotta get sense
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Speaker 1: of humor about it. All right, Well we get this really?
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Speaker 1: I love this, I love this, I love this. I'm
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Speaker 1: getting ahead of myself. This is from the four to
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Speaker 1: four to roh uh four four roh texts and Matt
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Speaker 1: Bodener are you listening, by the way? It says? Hey,
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Speaker 1: double Elvis two suggestions for possible brackets over in Patreon
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Speaker 1: Gangster Movies and Summer Songs. Loved the themes bracket and
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Speaker 1: look forward to the next one. Now four four to
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Speaker 1: Roh is referencing the bracketology the May madness that we
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Speaker 1: had over in our Patreon regarding vintage sitcom theme songs,
18:49
Speaker 1: which that all came out of an argument that Zeth
18:51
Speaker 1: and I had in one of our podcast conversations. It
18:55
Speaker 1: was completely unplanned. But now that we've done it, and
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Speaker 1: we had such fun doing it, although Matt Boden and
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Speaker 1: I think he he had to take some sabbatical for
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Speaker 1: a little bit afterward because he puts so much time
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Speaker 1: and effort into it. I kind of want to do
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Speaker 1: it again, and I loved the result. I was shocked
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Speaker 1: by the passionate response from the disgraced Land listeners and
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Speaker 1: Hollywood land listeners too theme songs from television shows, and
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Speaker 1: I totally get it. It's nostalg it's nostalgia and people
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Speaker 1: that really motivates folks. But I think for four h
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Speaker 1: these two categories for future brackets, Gangster movies and summer songs.
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Speaker 1: First of all, gangster movies, I'm right in that wheelhouse,
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Speaker 1: right now I'm just I'm just consuming everything I can
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Speaker 1: get my hands on that is that is Italian mafia.
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Speaker 1: I've kind of moved beyond even all the bad shit
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Speaker 1: and now kind of moving into like checking mafia stuff
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Speaker 1: and just it's it's a whole sickness of mine, I guess.
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Speaker 1: But summer songs is great and it's apropos of course.
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Speaker 1: I love the idea. Curious what you think. Anyone else
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Speaker 1: wants to chime in, you can, I'm into it. Six
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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. Guys,
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Speaker 1: other bracketology subjects you'd like us to mine. The whole
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Speaker 1: thing too. Just back to the sitcom music thing that
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Speaker 1: we did. I've never been like a march madness guy.
20:23
Speaker 1: I'm not into it at all. I like sports. I've
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Speaker 1: just never been in a college basket. When my whole
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Speaker 1: family does, they are they're all like and they all
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Speaker 1: get the squares and all that stuff. Not me. But
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Speaker 1: this year, I right now, actually I'm completely obsessed with
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Speaker 1: NCAA baseball. In the tournament that happened that started two
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Speaker 1: weeks ago and is still going on. We're down to
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Speaker 1: the college world series now, and I think it was
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Speaker 1: the sort of bracket madness that we started. I get
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Speaker 1: just got it in my head, and then I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is the thing I'm into now, Sure why not?
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Speaker 1: So it'd be fun to get into some gangster movie
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Speaker 1: summer songs or something else that you guys suggest again
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Speaker 1: two first let me say you. Owning in nineteen sixty
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Speaker 1: dream car is and always will be a seventy one
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Speaker 1: Hemi cudah and black like the one in Phantasm. My
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Speaker 1: first car was a seventy Dodge Darts Swinger I bought
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Speaker 1: for five hundred bucks in nineteen ninety. Second Jesus Build
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Speaker 1: My hot Rod is the best car song ever. Also,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know about Gibe haynes involvement on that tune.
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Speaker 1: four Dodge Dart with the push button transmission. Just awesome
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Speaker 1: era for cars. So cool. Hey, By the way, whoever
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Speaker 1: Gain and mentor to Joe Walsh. He went out west
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Speaker 1: to join PG and E and enjoyed the lifestyle of
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Speaker 1: a rock and roller, and then he found religion and
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Speaker 1: went over the deep edge. Benually came back here to
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Speaker 1: Cleveland and lived in his car for a while. In
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Speaker 1: that car was a nineteen sixty seven Plymouth Barracuda. No
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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. He'd play a bar in club shows here
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Speaker 1: in the later years, often with his bass playing brother
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Speaker 1: Jean was known to just break out into religious sermons
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Speaker 1: when it came to a blend of prague and hard rock.
24:51
Speaker 1: Their album Demons and Wizards spawned a couple of hits,
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Speaker 1: including easy Living, the track they are best known for.
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25:58
Speaker 1: before and I'll continue saying it this We played Loud
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Speaker 1: all the great needle drops, perhaps the scoring, although it's
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Speaker 1: mainly needle drops that we discussed. The last episode we
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Speaker 1: that's awesome. It's awesome. And dude, can we talk about
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Speaker 1: truck is. I don't know what it is, but I
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Speaker 1: just I want that truck. Actually i've seen I want
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Speaker 1: to be a part of I want to be riding
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Speaker 1: in that fucking truck is what I want to be. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in the launch chair on the back I think it's Chevy.
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Speaker 1: I can't recall. There's my wife loves old trucks, and
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Speaker 1: I can kind of do that way, but it's not way,
27:25
Speaker 1: you know, but that chases it's too too fast on
27:28
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Speaker 1: the Moon Tower and they're racing like that, that's completely authentic.
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Speaker 1: We would do that all the time. It's a bigger
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Speaker 1: chasing and they're fucking flying. Yeah, they're flying. It's crazy.
27:44
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Speaker 1: Sonic Youse Goo was released on June twenty six, nineteen ninety,
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Speaker 1: And here is what America was listening to on that day,
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