Latest / 2nd City Gridiron / Bears Banter Ep. 235: LIVE- DJ Moore Traded, free agency nears!
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- 0:00[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, bare-down bears fans inside for another edition of the Chicago Bears podcast bears banter powered by Second City Gridiron Bill Zimmerman with you and we just had to do this right now.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've been sitting here all week
- 0:18[SPEAKER_00]: talking about trying to do a bear's podcast, trying to get a guest on the kind of preview what's going on, everything's fluid with the bears.
- 0:26[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough to do a non-live podcast right now.
- 0:29[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can get a guest on on Tuesday and by the time the podcast comes out on Wednesday, things have already changed.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_00]: So it was tough to figure this out.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_00]: But when this trade goes down, DJ Moore headed to the Buffalo Bills.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you know what, let's do a podcast.
- 0:48[SPEAKER_00]: Lester Will Funk says, do a live podcast.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_00]: And we're rolling the dice here.
- 0:52[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to let you know, this may be a disaster because my better half, she's a school teacher.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_00]: They do parent teacher conferences.
- 0:59[SPEAKER_00]: They do them remotely.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_00]: And she's here.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_00]: She's doing parent teacher conferences in the other room.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_00]: So what do I get?
- 1:05[SPEAKER_00]: I get the dogs.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_00]: We got three of them.
- 1:07[SPEAKER_00]: At any point, they might just go off and wreck this thing, but we're going to try it anyway because there are things to talk about here with the Chicago Bears.
- 1:18[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you drop stuff in the comments section here on the YouTube feed at Second City.
- 1:23[SPEAKER_00]: Gridiron, if you're watching on Twitter.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_00]: because I need your help too.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_00]: If more news comes down from the bears, I'm staring at this screen.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not staring at my phone.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_00]: I need to know from you, listener.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you jump in there.
- 1:35[SPEAKER_00]: You've got questions, comments, pop them in.
- 1:37[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be answering them throughout the stream here.
- 1:39[SPEAKER_00]: Don't know how long we're going.
- 1:40[SPEAKER_00]: 20 minutes, an hour.
- 1:42[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how long it takes to talk about this because this is something.
- 1:48[SPEAKER_00]: That needed to happen.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we can go back to about 10 months ago when the bears drafted Luther burden and I thought the writing was on the wall then I tweeted it out.
- 1:58[SPEAKER_00]: I think the day or two after they drafted burden and said these are really similar play styles.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to happen now, but it could happen a year from now.
- 2:07[SPEAKER_00]: DJ Moore, that's a big contract.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_00]: If things
- 2:10[SPEAKER_00]: You know, go well for Luther Bird and D. J. Moray doesn't, doesn't feel like he's going to be part of the future plans here and now that's what's happened now with the bears have loved to have kept D. J. more of course they would have but they have us there a little sour cap crunch so they trade D. J. more to the Buffalo bills.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_00]: for a second run pick now the bill the bears had to attach a fifth round pick as well with DJ, but this is you guys know I am pretty close to Ryan Paul's number one critic.
- 2:40[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm first, but I'm pretty sure I'm in the top 10.
- 2:43[SPEAKER_00]: This is a
- 2:45[SPEAKER_00]: fabulous trade by Ryan Pulse to get a two.
- 2:50[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I put out like my rumors articles from the Super Bowl from San Francisco, uh, what was that probably about a month ago now, and I said, talking to people in San Francisco, they did not think that DJ Moore with the money he was making had a market.
- 3:05[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it didn't say that the bears wouldn't be able to trade him.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_00]: but it was going to be one of those things that the Chicago Bears because he was going to be making $20 plus million a year was going to be hard to get what truly his value is in terms of him as a player because his production had been down the last couple of years.
- 3:27[SPEAKER_00]: But
- 3:28[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan polls tip of the cap that is an outstanding trade to get it to and I know we've got a lot of DJ more fans and you sit there and, you know, if you're a DJ more fan, you're going to say this is a sad day for the bears.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a sad day for the bears.
- 3:43[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_00]: We should celebrate that DJ Moore is no longer on the roster.
- 3:48[SPEAKER_00]: But this is far, far, far from a sad day for the bears because what this is telling you on multiple things is one, Ben Johnson and Ryan Paul's, but mostly Ben Johnson truly believe in Luther Bird.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_00]: You do not go into an off-season, trading away a talent like DJ Moore, salary can't be damned.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't have trust in your young guns of a doomsday, burden, and colson, lovelin, especially burden.
- 4:19[SPEAKER_00]: Because burden is going to be tasked to get
- 4:23[SPEAKER_00]: the the the more touches to become DJ more because I can criticize DJ more plenty which I did do in 2024 for some of his attitude issues which I did in 2025 for I I've multiple times on this podcast I talked about how he wasn't wasn't doing scramble drills the way he needed to he wasn't coming back to the ball he wasn't rolling he wasn't moving the way he needed to that was frustrating for me as a fan.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_00]: but it doesn't change the fact that when you look at Caleb Williams' top 10 throws of the year.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I put out an article, I put out some tweets about it, when you look at it.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking and the the game winner to the Packers the first time.
- 5:07[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you've got that one.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_00]: You've got the catch part two against the Brown.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_00]: You've got the incredible throw he made against the Ravens.
- 5:15[SPEAKER_00]: These throws are all going to DJ Moore.
- 5:19[SPEAKER_00]: I think on my top 10 throws of the year, four of them went to DJ Moore.
- 5:24[SPEAKER_00]: He's the type of target that a quarterback like Caleb Williams is going to look to.
- 5:28[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think Caleb and DJ had the best chemistry on the field, but Caleb still looked for him in the big moments
- 5:37[SPEAKER_00]: So, if you're going to have to trade a player of that talent, you have to make sure.
- 5:43[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the bears had a top 10 offense.
- 5:45[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, the Chicago Bears had a top 10 offense by basically every metric last year.
- 5:51[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're taking away a key member of that offense.
- 5:54[SPEAKER_00]: You need to know.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_00]: as the coach of this team, as the GM and this team, that Luther burdened especially, but that love-lend-and-oh dunesay, that these guys are going to pick up the slack.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_00]: The bears do not have a wide receiver three right now.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_00]: That was DJ Moore.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_00]: If we're being honest, I think coming into 2021-26 if Moore was still on the team, burden and a dunesay would be above more.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you sit there and go, you can't pay your wide receiver $3,28 million.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_00]: Now, who's the wide receiver three at this point?
- 6:24[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there's a chance, whether they re-sign Olimite as a keyis or they sign someone like him, and I think maybe Jada Walker is like the wide receiver for to start the year, and he moves in to that wide receiver three roll as the season moves on.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like the bears did with Luther Burton this past year where they had
- 6:47[SPEAKER_00]: He was not the wide receiver three to start the year.
- 6:50[SPEAKER_00]: That was clearly all I mean is the keys and Ben Johnson kept working his snaps up throughout the season and by the last five, six games of the year.
- 6:59[SPEAKER_00]: Luther Bird was all over the field and making big time plays all over the field.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_00]: So the big reason that this DJ Moore trade happened is because the Chicago Bears Field, they can trust Luther Bird in terms of becoming a star wide receiver in this offense.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_00]: And let's talk about specifically here this trade.
- 7:21[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, there was a lot of buzz that because DJ Moore had such a big contract.
- 7:28[SPEAKER_00]: 28 million for the bears, but because of guaranteed or because of bonuses, the incoming team was going to be getting about $21 million on, you know, for DJ Moore per season.
- 7:39[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty good right for a wide receiver of DJ Moore's caliber.
- 7:44[SPEAKER_00]: But you're paying that much money and forget the fifth round pick.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_00]: I understand the bear's kicked in a fifth round pick, so the Buffalo had some kind of pick.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_00]: That is when you look at like, if your guy likes to examine draft trades and you look at what a fifth round pick is worth versus a second on pick.
- 8:01[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at like the Jimmy Johnson trade chart, you like to look at those, I love looking at that.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a really big geek when comes to math and looking
- 8:10[SPEAKER_00]: Fifth round pick doesn't even register compared to a second round pick.
- 8:14[SPEAKER_00]: It basically makes the value here for what they got for DJ Moore, being that Buffalo was good and it was a late two.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it becomes like the very best round three equivalent, but I don't even care because it is a round two pick.
- 8:31[SPEAKER_00]: That is a great job for Ryan Polls.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot reiterate how many times I could just keep going and saying great job Ryan Polls on this trade Because I like I said there was not a lot of confidence that DJ Moore was going to get a lot back for the Chicago Bears because of that contract, but they were patient
- 8:55[SPEAKER_00]: They did not rush into this trade.
- 8:58[SPEAKER_00]: They had a lot of stuff happening here.
- 8:59[SPEAKER_00]: They were dealing with this Drew Dalman situation.
- 9:02[SPEAKER_00]: They were patient.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_00]: They've been patient with all this.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's making the off-season here for the bears really complicated to try and predict what's going on.
- 9:12[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're sitting here going I wonder if Bill's got any names for us in terms of, you know, free agents, the bears might be signing here and then in next, you know, weaker so I don't really, but if you also look at like the Brad Biggs is the world, the Courtney Cronon's a lot of the local guys, even if you look at the national stuff from like Albert Brear and guys like that that we really think are pretty tuned into this, this bears regime, you're not hearing a lot of names.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll talk about Max Crosby,
- 9:41[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about Tray Hendricksson, but you're not hearing a lot of names being connected to the bears.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the reason for that is,
- 9:50[SPEAKER_00]: is that the bears are so fluid, because they were shopping DJ Moore.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_00]: They're shopping for main admins.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many things they're trying to accomplish via the trade market, Tyson Bajan, another guy they are clearly trying to move to not necessarily clear up cap space.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_00]: That's something they need to do with DJ Moore, but acquire picks.
- 10:09[SPEAKER_00]: The bears need a lot of picks, because they wanna turn over this defense significantly and they can't do it without a lot of picks.
- 10:18[SPEAKER_00]: is it's kind of a weird draft.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have a lot of the marquee positions.
- 10:23[SPEAKER_00]: There's not a lot of quarterbacks and wide receivers, positions like that that are sexy, that are going to go in the first round.
- 10:29[SPEAKER_00]: But you hear from a lot of these draft experts that this draft, the money timing to have picks is this second third, maybe fourth round.
- 10:37[SPEAKER_00]: That's where the meat of this draft is, not a ton of high end guys, not like crazy deep or you're getting amazing value in
- 10:48[SPEAKER_00]: meaty in terms of a lot of like second round guy caliber guys could be in the third round.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's not going to be enough first round caliber players to go in the first round.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_00]: Like you talk to the draft experts.
- 10:59[SPEAKER_00]: They say there's like 20 first round grades, but you got to have 32 first round picks.
- 11:03[SPEAKER_00]: So some of those two are going to pull into the end, the back of round one.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_00]: But there's so many twos and so many free about it in terms of what those grades are is that you're gonna have a ton to pit from there.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_00]: And you hear about the depth of this, like safety, things like that, edge.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_00]: That's where there's a lot of depth and, hey, that happens to be where the Chicago Bears need the most help.
- 11:27[SPEAKER_00]: So I think this was a stupid endist job by Ryan Polls and with that second round pick, what can they do with it?
- 11:37[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go over some of these comments that we've gotten so far.
- 11:40[SPEAKER_00]: Rob Avonco says I was kind of hoping DJ for Max Deal looks like that ain't happening.
- 11:45[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously with him and Buffalo Rob, it's not happening.
- 11:47[SPEAKER_00]: DJ more made a lot of sense for Vegas.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard that Vegas wasn't that in to DJ more.
- 11:53[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was not a player they were interested in.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a mistake by the Raiders personally because to me, DJ more is the kind of guy that a rookie quarterback can spam.
- 12:04[SPEAKER_00]: Because, you know, you can stare him down, he'll eventually get open.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's not the perfect guy to work in terms of an offensive scheme like Ben Johnson, where every route needs to be crisp, and you need to know your role on each each down.
- 12:18[SPEAKER_00]: But, in terms of just a high quality receiver,
- 12:23[SPEAKER_00]: DJ Moore would have been great for Mendoza in my opinion.
- 12:28[SPEAKER_00]: And you have him in Bowers, and he could just spam them up.
- 12:31[SPEAKER_00]: If I was the Raiders, I would beef up that offensive line.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_00]: I would spend on the offensive line, trade for DJ Moore.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_00]: You've got more in trade Tucker.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty good one to with Bowers with Gentie.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_00]: You can beef up the offensive line.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_00]: So Gentie can run, and Mendoza has time.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_00]: Screw the defense.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're not going to be good this year, lose games, you know, 34 to 24, but have a competent offense for Windows.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would have made a great move getting DJ more, but Buffalo makes the move.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_00]: And look, let's spend one minute on Buffalo here.
- 13:05[SPEAKER_00]: I, it makes sense for Buffalo.
- 13:06[SPEAKER_00]: They needed weapons for Josh Allen.
- 13:08[SPEAKER_00]: The receiver room was a joke, like Dalton can Kade is always banged up.
- 13:13[SPEAKER_00]: Like they did not have targets for Josh Allen, but
- 13:17[SPEAKER_00]: Not only did they give up a second round pick, they threw in more guaranteed money for DJ more.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, DJ more is 2026, salary was guaranteed.
- 13:27[SPEAKER_00]: his 2027 salary, I don't know exactly what the date was, I don't know if it's the first day of the league new year, but coming up here the next few days, his money extra guarantees would kick into guarantee, the 2027 salary as well.
- 13:42[SPEAKER_00]: Buffalo to make DJ happy, says, we're gonna guarantee your 2028 salary as well.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_00]: So DJ Moore has now got three guaranteed years of money.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_00]: He will happily take that moving to upstate New York.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_00]: I went to Syracuse.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_00]: That is that a fun place to live.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_00]: There will be a lot of snow there.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_00]: But DJ Moore is a good guy.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of smiles.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_00]: He was the Walter Peyton Man of the Year, for the Chicago Bears.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_00]: He's the type of guy.
- 14:09[SPEAKER_00]: The Buffalo fans are awesome.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_00]: Like they really rally around that team.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_00]: They are absolutely going to love DJ more.
- 14:16[SPEAKER_00]: He is going to love that.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_00]: Guaranteeing three years of a contract, though.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_00]: That is serious for Buffalo.
- 14:23[SPEAKER_00]: So they truly, truly believe that DJ more is still an elite wide receiver one.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_00]: If they're going to trade it to and guarantee that much money.
- 14:35[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Murdoch, let's know.
- 14:37[SPEAKER_00]: Was it true that DJ requested a trade in season in 2024?
- 14:39[SPEAKER_00]: That is something I did here.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_00]: DJ more was miserable in 2024 as were a lot of the players.
- 14:46[SPEAKER_00]: We certainly saw it on DJ's face and in his how he played, you know, in terms of how he was carrying himself on the sidelines a lot.
- 14:54[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of sulking.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_00]: DJ had a rough year there.
- 14:58[SPEAKER_00]: I heard he did not like it in Chicago.
- 15:01[SPEAKER_00]: We've heard some things about DJ and Caleb not being on the same page necessarily.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_00]: Keenan Allen, you've heard some things about him working with Caleb and trying to make sure he was getting the lion share of the carries, not a coaching staff that did not have control of the locker room.
- 15:14[SPEAKER_00]: Heard a lot of messy things about 2024.
- 15:16[SPEAKER_00]: But for anything that it was in 2024, I think for the most part,
- 15:22[SPEAKER_00]: DJ more had a pretty damn good buy in in 2025.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_00]: He's a talented player.
- 15:26[SPEAKER_00]: Was he perfect on all the plays?
- 15:28[SPEAKER_00]: No, did he frustrate Ben Johnson at times?
- 15:31[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a hundred percent sure that he did.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_00]: Cause he drifts.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't lose, you know, he loses focus.
- 15:37[SPEAKER_00]: Not always routes are crisp.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_00]: We know the issues with DJ, but it doesn't change the fact that he is still a guy clearly.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_00]: doing a lot of good in the community, clearly a good person, Walter Peyton, man in the year, for the team, is certainly not gonna nominate a guy that's got legal troubles.
- 15:57[SPEAKER_00]: Clearly DJ's doing some good things there, and without some of the drawbacks that he may have had in terms of drifting and losing focus and things like that, you
- 16:08[SPEAKER_00]: cannot deny that he is a talented player.
- 16:13[SPEAKER_00]: Now I wanted to bring this one up from random DJ DJ DJ DJ.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_00]: This must improve our chances to get cross.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_00]: We write a second rounder, more than DJ trade value, yeah, whatever he's saying.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_00]: He's saying second round pick and help DJ can help potentially get cross.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that's really interesting.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_00]: We keep hearing the same thing about the Max Crosby potential trades over and over again and the bears are not alone in this I seems like a lot of people want to talk about the bears want to talk about the cowboys, but you're still here and there are six seven eight teams talking to the Raiders about potentially getting Max Crosby now.
- 16:51[SPEAKER_00]: The issue is, is the Raiders have been very firm that they want two first-round picks for Crosby.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_00]: And there is not a team in the league right now that is looking to trade two first-round picks for Max Crosby.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_00]: He is a great talent.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_00]: He is
- 17:11[SPEAKER_00]: a two first round pick caliber talent, but this is a guy who's had a lot of surgeries, 29 years old, this is not the kind of player.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_00]: Like of players, non-corderbacks and Danny Parkinson's had this, of non-corderbacks that have been traded for two first round picks.
- 17:30[SPEAKER_00]: Khalil Mac was the oldest at 27.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_00]: And the bears got a second round pick and return.
- 17:36[SPEAKER_00]: So it was two first round picks, but one of them was a pick swap.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_00]: That first round pick they had a second round pick back.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_00]: That's where, of course, we had the joke back then.
- 17:45[SPEAKER_00]: That it won't be a big deal because the bears will be picking 30 second.
- 17:50[SPEAKER_00]: The Raiders will be picking 33rd.
- 17:52[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously that didn't happen, but regardless,
- 17:56[SPEAKER_00]: most of the time when a non-corderback gets first-round picks, they are 24 or 25 years old, they are very young.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_00]: They are multiple years younger than Max Crosby.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_00]: So no team has really opted because I think if two first-round picks were on the table, Max Crosby would have been dealt.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_00]: but they haven't gotten that.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_00]: It teams that are interested in Crosby have been firm.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you look at a team like the Chicago Bears, or sitting here saying clearly, they've been in contact with the Raiders about Crosby, but clearly, they haven't been able to close that gap.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_00]: And if they don't close the gap, I don't see the Bears going to two first round picks.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_00]: I do not see that happening.
- 18:41[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be like, screw it, let's get Crosby.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_00]: Here's your two first round picks.
- 18:45[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see that happening.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_00]: However,
- 18:48[SPEAKER_00]: I could see the bear saying, here's a one in the two because they still have their own second round pick.
- 18:55[SPEAKER_00]: They could trade, they could do that.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_00]: They could absorb that cost now.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_00]: And in essence, it becomes Max Crosby for what they got for DJ Moore, like a one in two and a five.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_00]: That's a steep price.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_00]: But it's one that you can deal with if you're the Chicago Bears and really beef up that defense,
- 19:18[SPEAKER_00]: up front.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_00]: So when I look at this, Max Crosby in terms of where he's going to end up, people keep asking, do you think the bear's going to get him?
- 19:29[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still going to say no because of the fact that the bears don't have the desire to give up those two ones.
- 19:38[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if things got creative,
- 19:43[SPEAKER_00]: Put in the Raiders insist on two ones, but tell the bears, hey, we'll take a couple bad contracts off your hands and open up a lot of money for you to go out there.
- 19:57[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll trade for Crosby, we'll open up a lot of money so you could go get Tyler Lindervom and you could go get a couple big name guys.
- 20:04[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying that's gonna happen, but that would be interesting.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_00]: If the bears are willing to offer, say they are willing to offer a one and a two.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_00]: and the writers say, okay, not a one and a two, two ones, but we'll take Dio Dengbo and Grady Jared off your hands.
- 20:21[SPEAKER_00]: And with that, the bears would open up like 35 additional million dollars for two guys that you really can't expect too much.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_00]: Now maybe Jared can rebound, but can you expect anything from Odengbo this year?
- 20:33[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I didn't expect much from Odengbo last year before he got hurt.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_00]: So I think this puts the bears in an interesting situation
- 20:44[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry about that, with what they can do moving forward.
- 20:48[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we know Tremaine Edmonds is gonna come off this team.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the bears are going to be able to trade for them.
- 20:54[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see that happening.
- 20:56[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people think that Tramay and Edmunds has value and I could be wrong.
- 21:01[SPEAKER_00]: Tramay and Edmunds maybe they can get a fifth or a six-round pick form.
- 21:03[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see it.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tramay and Edmunds ends up getting cut.
- 21:07[SPEAKER_00]: I think if Edmunds was already offered, if a team offered a strong deal for Edmunds, he'd already be off the team.
- 21:13[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's one where the bears are weighing offers.
- 21:16[SPEAKER_00]: I think the bears are waiting for unauthor, pretty much.
- 21:20[SPEAKER_00]: Like, a six, can they get a six run pick?
- 21:22[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would trade Tremaine Evans for a six run pick.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I don't see that happening, but at the same time, I was wrong about the compensation for DJ more.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_00]: I certainly could be wrong about the compensation that they would be able to get for Tremaine Evans.
- 21:37[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think the bears would like to make a couple more trades and acquire more picks.
- 21:41[SPEAKER_00]: If they can get a pick for tomato admins, they'd be thrilled.
- 21:44[SPEAKER_00]: Now you sit there and go, could they somehow get a fifth round pick for Edmunds and fill in that spot that they just, you know, lost that pick with the DJ more trade?
- 21:54[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, they would love to do that.
- 21:55[SPEAKER_00]: Tyson Bayjan, can they trade Tyson Bayjan for a day to pick?
- 22:00[SPEAKER_00]: That's been what the bears are holding out for.
- 22:02[SPEAKER_00]: The bears want a second round pick.
- 22:05[SPEAKER_00]: when they settle for a third round pick.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_00]: Seems like the bears have gotten fourth round pick offers.
- 22:11[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they've gotten a third round pick and they're still holding out for a two, but would be interesting.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_00]: I could you imagine if the bear's got another two for Tyson Bayesian and are suddenly sitting there with three second round picks, it's not impossible.
- 22:23[SPEAKER_00]: Even if they end up with a three,
- 22:25[SPEAKER_00]: for Tyson Bayesian and have two twos and two threes.
- 22:29[SPEAKER_00]: There is a lot that they can do with that.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_00]: So Anthony Witter wants to know, do you think we use the cap?
- 22:36[SPEAKER_00]: We just got back to go get Tyler Lindervom.
- 22:38[SPEAKER_00]: We still need a left tackle too.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_00]: So on that one, Anthony.
- 22:42[SPEAKER_00]: I still have a hard time believing the bears are going to spend significant capital, whether that be money or draft on a left tackle.
- 22:54[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're trying to figure out a way to do this fairly cheaply.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_00]: Now, maybe there's a veteran out there that they can sign for one year,
- 23:04[SPEAKER_00]: You're still going to have to spend a decent amount.
- 23:06[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to spend 15 million dollars to just get a decent left tackle for the most part.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very difficult position to just say, hey, we need a left tackle.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go get one.
- 23:17[SPEAKER_00]: Bad left tackle is usually get 20 million dollars on the market at this point.
- 23:20[SPEAKER_00]: Darnell, if they extend him this summer, Darnell writes going to be pushing $30 million dollars a year.
- 23:26[SPEAKER_00]: The tackles are getting paid right now at the NFL level.
- 23:34[SPEAKER_00]: at the left tackle position is gonna be interesting because I don't think they want to close the door on Azita Pillow.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do they want to close the door on Azita Pillow for this year?
- 23:44[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of have to because it seems like to Pillow if he's not out for the whole year, he's gonna be out for most of the year and if he's out until.
- 23:54[SPEAKER_00]: mid-November, early December, what kind of trippilo are you going to even be getting at that point?
- 24:00[SPEAKER_00]: You almost think Aussie trippilo needs to come back as like a swing tackle where you don't have to rely on them.
- 24:05[SPEAKER_00]: So I really feel like they need to find themselves a starting left tackle, but a starting left tackle for one season and then they can see what they have with trippilo.
- 24:15[SPEAKER_00]: But Ron Amagaji is nowhere on the radar, it seems.
- 24:18[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he'll be on the 90 man roster, but you see him being on this roster beyond that.
- 24:24[SPEAKER_00]: I don't at all.
- 24:26[SPEAKER_00]: In terms, I think this is probably the year he gets cut, even with their tackle situations.
- 24:30[SPEAKER_00]: He just doesn't seem to be in their plans.
- 24:33[SPEAKER_00]: Theo Bennett it, that keep him as a tackle.
- 24:36[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people myself included with his length issues.
- 24:38[SPEAKER_00]: Think they should bump him in and have him play on the interior.
- 24:42[SPEAKER_00]: Braxton Jones, his free agency value tank with his rough season and the injuries could they bring back Braxton Jones, maybe Braxton Jones's healthier and can be a far better version of a tackle of what he was in 2025, which was a guy who lost his job.
- 25:03[SPEAKER_00]: to Theo Benedict, who then lost his job to Ozzie Trepello and never got it back, you know, just, you know, Braxton Jones, what's he fully healthy?
- 25:14[SPEAKER_00]: And it was he just left on IR.
- 25:16[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was elevated at the end of the year.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_00]: They still didn't utilize him.
- 25:21[SPEAKER_00]: So,
- 25:22[SPEAKER_00]: The left tackle position is a tough one for the bear to navigate this year because they need to figure out a reliable left tackle for this season and this season alone.
- 25:34[SPEAKER_00]: That's gonna be a difficult thing for them to try and figure out.
- 25:38[SPEAKER_00]: But like you also brought up Tyler Lindnerbaum.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the center situation is interesting because we know the bears have had a revolving door at center and the Drew Dalman lost certainly hurts.
- 25:50[SPEAKER_00]: That is a bad one for the Chicago Bears to absorb.
- 25:54[SPEAKER_00]: Dalman had an excellent season.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams loved him.
- 25:59[SPEAKER_00]: He was definitely an anchor for that type of, for that offensive line.
- 26:06[SPEAKER_00]: He did a great job.
- 26:07[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think there were some rumbles that this is something that could have happened with Dalman even when they signed him.
- 26:17[SPEAKER_00]: Dalman was definitely a guy that was not planning on playing at the NFL at 33, 34 years old.
- 26:23[SPEAKER_00]: However,
- 26:25[SPEAKER_00]: I think the bears definitely thought they were going to get him past 27 years of age.
- 26:30[SPEAKER_00]: I think they definitely thought they were going to get through Dalman for at least two years.
- 26:34[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we've heard a lot the last week or so that the bears were talking in Dalman trying to see if this was something that
- 26:44[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely wanted to do.
- 26:46[SPEAKER_00]: Could they talk him out of it?
- 26:47[SPEAKER_00]: Could he come back for one more season?
- 26:49[SPEAKER_00]: Domin made the decision that was best for him.
- 26:52[SPEAKER_00]: And it sucks for the bears.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_00]: I am not saying bears fans shouldn't be upset about Drew Domin being gone, but you still have to respect his decision.
- 27:01[SPEAKER_00]: This is a tough game.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_00]: It's a tough game on the mind.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_00]: It's a tough game on the body.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_00]: He went out.
- 27:07[SPEAKER_00]: He got money, he does not have to work anymore, you know, he's got what probably 15, 20 million in the bank.
- 27:13[SPEAKER_00]: Good for Drew Dalman, but at the same time, certainly it sucks for the Chicago Bears.
- 27:19[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure based on how that contract was structured, the Bears thought they were going to be getting two years of Drew Dalman.
- 27:27[SPEAKER_00]: Now, for me personally, and I know the defense is a mess.
- 27:31[SPEAKER_00]: And I know they need to do a lot to the defense.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_00]: I would sign Tyler Lindervom.
- 27:37[SPEAKER_00]: I would spend $20, $21 million a year that they need to spend on getting Tyler Lindervom.
- 27:43[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I would do it.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_00]: Clearly, the center is an important position.
- 27:48[SPEAKER_00]: The center is an important position for every team.
- 27:50[SPEAKER_00]: It's clearly an important position for this Ben Johnson offense.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_00]: That's why we saw how it operated into Detroit with Frank Ragnow.
- 27:58[SPEAKER_00]: This is a key position for this offensive line.
- 28:02[SPEAKER_00]: So if I'm the bear's right now, I would say screw it.
- 28:05[SPEAKER_00]: And I would go after Tyler Linderbum.
- 28:07[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't necessarily mean they can't go after a Max Crosby or a Trey Hendrix, and if they want to.
- 28:14[SPEAKER_00]: But even though they have more issues with the defense, I really think they should go after Tyler Linderbum.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_00]: They should get that in because the bottom line here is, yes, they're going to have to pay Darnell right, yes, they're currently paying Joe Tuney, yes, they're currently paying Jonah Jackson.
- 28:32[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Tuney's not going to be on this team for more than a couple more years.
- 28:36[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, the bears are in a position, they can spend this kind of money.
- 28:40[SPEAKER_00]: Now, they got the Kale Williams contract extension coming in and that thing is going to be, you know, that's going to be 70 million a year probably with the way the cap's going up like that.
- 28:48[SPEAKER_00]: That is not going to be cheap.
- 28:50[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to come with guarantees that George McCass, he's going to have to put an escrow.
- 28:55[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you don't know how that works, that's part of the reason why the bear's were able to get collial math.
- 28:59[SPEAKER_00]: Because Mark Davis had time was really short on cash.
- 29:02[SPEAKER_00]: And when you guarantee money to a player, you have to put it an escrow.
- 29:08[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't mean the player gets it necessarily.
- 29:10[SPEAKER_00]: Like that goes in the contract, you know, gets it right away, I should say necessarily.
- 29:14[SPEAKER_00]: Goes into the contract, where the guarantees kick in, when that player receives that guaranteed money.
- 29:20[SPEAKER_00]: But it has to be in an account.
- 29:24[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just have it in the owner's pocket and then say, oh, we have to pay that in 2027 and then they go out and pay it.
- 29:29[SPEAKER_00]: So now it works that money has to go an escrow.
- 29:32[SPEAKER_00]: Has to get taken from the owner's pockets, put it in an account.
- 29:36[SPEAKER_00]: So the player can see it sitting there.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_00]: And Mark Davis was cash poor and he was gonna have a hard time paying Khalil Mack.
- 29:44[SPEAKER_00]: That was a big reason why the Chicago Bears were gonna be able to get that done.
- 29:48[SPEAKER_00]: The bears are not as cash for as Mark Davis was then, but they do not have a lot of cash.
- 29:53[SPEAKER_00]: And they've got all this money tied up in Arlington Heights, they've got their own cash issues.
- 29:58[SPEAKER_00]: So the Chicago Bears, they can go out and spend money.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying they can't spend money.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of Caleb Williams getting 200 million guaranteed or whatever he's going to get, that's going to be a big ask for George McCaskey to do.
- 30:12[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be interesting to see how that
- 30:17[SPEAKER_00]: how it's put in in terms of do they keep having like guarantees does his 2029 salary guarantee the end of like the 2027 like two years in advance so that money keeps getting guaranteed well in advance where it makes it hard for the bears to get out of that contract not saying they would want to but I'm saying from Caleb Williams perspective.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_00]: So he makes sure that money keeps getting guaranteed well in advance.
- 30:42[SPEAKER_00]: So it becomes very hard for the bears to get out of the contract if they choose.
- 30:46[SPEAKER_00]: So he can get that full apartment of guaranteed money.
- 30:49[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you get the guarantees versus the fully guaranteed.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_00]: And you see those differences.
- 30:55[SPEAKER_00]: That's how those contracts get a little complicated.
- 31:03[SPEAKER_00]: The way I would approach this free agency period for the Chicago Bears, I would absolutely spend the money on Tyler Lindervom, and that does not mean I wouldn't go for Max Crosby.
- 31:14[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do I think they're going to be able to get both of them?
- 31:16[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not insane.
- 31:18[SPEAKER_00]: If the Bears did that, they would be the talk of the NFL.
- 31:20[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying there's zero percent chance, but obviously that's extraordinarily low that they would ever.
- 31:26[SPEAKER_00]: be able to accomplish something like that.
- 31:29[SPEAKER_00]: I still think they should try.
- 31:30[SPEAKER_00]: This is the small window where the bears have Caleb Williams contract.
- 31:35[SPEAKER_00]: That's affordable.
- 31:36[SPEAKER_00]: Spend money now.
- 31:38[SPEAKER_00]: See if you can win a Super Bowl now.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_00]: I expect Caleb Williams to have his best season easily of his career next year, second year in the Ben Johnson system.
- 31:48[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, you have to have a full deep fence around them.
- 31:52[SPEAKER_00]: You have to keep the offense at the same level.
- 31:54[SPEAKER_00]: So I think for the Chicago Bears, go crazy right now if you can, don't be reckless.
- 32:00[SPEAKER_00]: But Tyler Lindervom and Max Crosby is not reckless.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_00]: That's two all pro caliber players that you're bringing in.
- 32:07[SPEAKER_00]: The reckless is spending big monies on guys like Odingbo and Jared where there's questions around them.
- 32:12[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the bears are the approach here is going to be smart.
- 32:16[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be measured.
- 32:18[SPEAKER_00]: That's why they're exploring this trade market is to make sure.
- 32:22[SPEAKER_00]: that they have things covered, the way they can, they get as much back.
- 32:27[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's been difficult, like you, again.
- 32:29[SPEAKER_00]: And this isn't just me saying, oh, I haven't heard much.
- 32:32[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you go look at the rumor columns from Albert Breyer and Jeremy Fowler, and, you know, shepter doesn't do the columns that much, but like, even if you go and you listen to the insiders on NFL Network with RAF and Pelacero, and they start talking about particular players, and there's like, oh, you know, this player would make,
- 32:52[SPEAKER_00]: Like when we hear tray Hendrickson, you hear the cults, you hear the box, you hear teams that are interested in tray Hendrickson.
- 33:01[SPEAKER_00]: But you don't hear the bears.
- 33:03[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying is, in terms of free agents, you have not seen the bears connected to many players.
- 33:09[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's honestly because the bears can't.
- 33:13[SPEAKER_00]: The bears couldn't be under the table talking to a lot of agents and stuff at the combine.
- 33:18[SPEAKER_00]: I know they were, but really try and get things across the finish line.
- 33:22[SPEAKER_00]: Like years ago, the Ryan Pays Bears, the 2018 combine.
- 33:27[SPEAKER_00]: Like the talk around the 2018 Combine was that the Chicago Bears were highly interested and the leading contenders for Alan Robinson, Tray Burton, and Albert Wilson, who I believe was on the chiefs at the time and went to the dolphins or was on the dolphins and went to the chiefs.
- 33:46[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember which one it was.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_00]: But Albert Wilson was the other receiver that they were really interested in.
- 33:52[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they I think it was chiefs and he ended up on the dolphins and of course they land Robinson they land Burton they don't land Wilson and they go out and get Taylor Gabriel instead so you hear things like that you like you hear teams getting connected to players at the combine.
- 34:07[SPEAKER_00]: We have not heard that with the bears this year.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, I think it's because it's a really fluid situation because they're up against the cap.
- 34:16[SPEAKER_00]: But they can keep making more money.
- 34:18[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the bears are looking at this as let's make cap space when we need to make cap space.
- 34:25[SPEAKER_00]: Like Drew Dalman retires gets them on the right side of the leisure.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_00]: They trade DJ more, now they've got some wiggle room.
- 34:33[SPEAKER_00]: So like, Josh Lopez wants to know what should they do at safety and linebacker?
- 34:39[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, that's a fair question, Josh.
- 34:42[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're gonna resign Kevin Byrd.
- 34:44[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's gonna happen.
- 34:45[SPEAKER_00]: We'll buyered test the market first and see what kind of offering.
- 34:49[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I guess that's possible, but I couldn't see him getting locked down in the next few days.
- 34:55[SPEAKER_00]: Biodes definitely going to get a raise.
- 34:56[SPEAKER_00]: He was all pro.
- 34:57[SPEAKER_00]: He should get a raise.
- 34:59[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to make that happen.
- 35:00[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're going to resize your clon brisker.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_00]: I've been pretty adamant about that since last year that I thought brisker was coming entering into his last seasons.
- 35:08[SPEAKER_00]: There's concussions.
- 35:09[SPEAKER_00]: There's some flaws in his game.
- 35:11[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably not a long term guy you want to spend because I'm sure brisker is going to want
- 35:17[SPEAKER_00]: You know, 10, 11, 12, 14 million dollars a year.
- 35:20[SPEAKER_00]: And he makes enough flashy plays that maybe a team would do that.
- 35:24[SPEAKER_00]: The Chicago Bears should not do that.
- 35:26[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what I thought the Bears should do is
- 35:32[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Byrd, I would also sign CJ Gardner Johnson.
- 35:38[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you're not going to be able to get him for a league minimum deal, but I think you'd be able, I don't think you have to break the bank form.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_00]: I think you could probably get him for five, six million.
- 35:45[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I haven't heard the bearers definitely want to keep him, yeah, it's questionable.
- 35:49[SPEAKER_00]: Some people are like, yeah, they're interested in CJ.
- 35:51[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, yeah, they may not be, like it seems like they're on the fence with CJ.
- 35:54[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's because they don't know what his market is going to be and they want to see what that looks like.
- 35:59[SPEAKER_00]: But I would,
- 36:00[SPEAKER_00]: keep CJ Gardner Johnson because he could play safety and he can play nickel.
- 36:04[SPEAKER_00]: So you got Kylerborn at nickel, who let's be honest is injury prone and CJ can step in for him there.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_00]: And you have a safety spot that would be open with brisk or vacating it.
- 36:14[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have CJ play there.
- 36:15[SPEAKER_00]: And then you can go into the draft and draft a safety.
- 36:18[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good safety draft.
- 36:20[SPEAKER_00]: Get one in the second, third, maybe the fourth round depending on who you like,
- 36:26[SPEAKER_00]: They're talking maybe three, four safety's going the first round.
- 36:29[SPEAKER_00]: If that's the case, then yeah, you're probably going to have to spend a second on pick on the safety if you want to get a good one.
- 36:35[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you even use the safety at 25, if they don't make a trade and keep that 25th pick.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_00]: So the Chicago Bears are in a situation where I think you should never just leave a gaping hole on your roster and assume you can fill it in the draft.
- 36:52[SPEAKER_00]: Like unless you're sitting there with the number one pick or the number two pick and you're confident, you're getting Caleb Williams or you're confident, you're getting Marvin Harrison Jr. or whatever because you know how this is gonna play out.
- 37:02[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can leave a gaping hole
- 37:05[SPEAKER_00]: but you can't leave a gaping hole with the idea that you are going to get a second or third round pick and use it on a player you like.
- 37:13[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you end up reaching for a player because the draft doesn't fall your way.
- 37:17[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you get a player like CJ Garder Johnson if it's not him, someone like him that has position flexibility that can be a starter or a backup.
- 37:28[SPEAKER_00]: depending on how things go and you draft that rookie and you let them do it out in August and see who emerges as the starting safety.
- 37:37[SPEAKER_00]: And if the rookie starts great, that's what you actually are hoping for to happen and then you've got a versatile backup who can back up a few different positions like CJ.
- 37:46[SPEAKER_00]: I think that makes a lot of sense with how I would approach.
- 37:51[SPEAKER_00]: the safety situation.
- 37:53[SPEAKER_00]: Now, in terms of the linebacker situation, TJ Edwards, they really can't get out of that contract this year.
- 37:59[SPEAKER_00]: I was a bad extension.
- 38:01[SPEAKER_00]: The injury aside here, I didn't think it was worth it, but bottom line here.
- 38:06[SPEAKER_00]: TJ Edwards should be healthy by September.
- 38:08[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know exactly when he's going to be healthy.
- 38:10[SPEAKER_00]: That was a pretty significant break.
- 38:13[SPEAKER_00]: I would doubt he's gonna be running around in May, but is he gonna be ready for the started training camp?
- 38:18[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hope something like that could happen.
- 38:20[SPEAKER_00]: I think TJ Edwards is gonna be a linebacker.
- 38:22[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're gonna keep Demarco Jackson, sign him cheaper.
- 38:25[SPEAKER_00]: I think those are gonna be your two linebackers.
- 38:27[SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably see a rookie linebacker in the mix as well as that third linebacker.
- 38:32[SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna expect anything from Noah's soul.
- 38:34[SPEAKER_00]: Can you expect anything from Rubin?
- 38:35[SPEAKER_00]: Hippelite.
- 38:36[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 38:38[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like the Hippelite pick in the moment.
- 38:40[SPEAKER_00]: I think Hippelite is a special team's player eventually
- 38:43[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see him contributing much on defense.
- 38:46[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously he didn't as rookie that can change.
- 38:49[SPEAKER_00]: He can certainly grow into his role with the team, but the bottom line here is
- 38:54[SPEAKER_00]: for the Chicago Bears on defense.
- 38:57[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's Jackson and Edwards and maybe a rookie in the mix for the linebacker.
- 39:02[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I would approach the safety.
- 39:03[SPEAKER_00]: Now again, maybe the Bears go out and, you know, sign a veteran safety and then still draft a safety who's going to be their third safety this year.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know exactly how much longer Kevin buyer can play.
- 39:14[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
- 39:16[SPEAKER_00]: how this plays out.
- 39:17[SPEAKER_00]: I do think the show and write is gone.
- 39:21[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the bears are going to be able to pay him, especially being
- 39:25[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, what are you expecting from right because you've got a little bit of a crowd in corner back room.
- 39:31[SPEAKER_00]: I do think he is going to find another team because I don't know if teams are going to break the bank and pay him 1415 million.
- 39:37[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think he's going to get 8 to 10 million and I do think that is probably going to be too steep for the Chicago Bears.
- 39:44[SPEAKER_00]: Let me look back at the comments here.
- 39:46[SPEAKER_00]: See if there's anything else that I missed.
- 39:52[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the slim slim bobogee says bears receive picked sift sixty bills received d j and pick one sixty four a b plus trade for both organizations slim i give the bears an a on this trade i really do i think second on pick compensation is incredible i give the bills a lower grade i give the bills like a c or a c minus because
- 40:16[SPEAKER_00]: I think guaranteeing that money and paying a second round pick is a steep price for DJ more.
- 40:23[SPEAKER_00]: Again, a very good player, but a steep price nevertheless.
- 40:28[SPEAKER_00]: My puppy nasal is here.
- 40:31[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
- 40:31[SPEAKER_00]: Can we get her on the screen?
- 40:33[SPEAKER_00]: There she is.
- 40:34[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
- 40:35[SPEAKER_00]: So told you the dogs were here.
- 40:37[SPEAKER_00]: It's an eight month old who keeps growing.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_00]: She's already over 50 pounds.
- 40:40[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't stop growing.
- 40:42[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways,
- 40:43[SPEAKER_00]: the Chicago Bears in terms of other plans, tray Hendricks and I don't think the Bears are going to go for tray Hendricks.
- 40:52[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think they're going for Max Crosby.
- 40:54[SPEAKER_00]: I think the writing is on the wall there that they're at least trying.
- 40:57[SPEAKER_00]: Are they going to actually be able to get something across the finish line?
- 41:00[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is certainly fair to question.
- 41:05[SPEAKER_00]: if they're going to be able to get there.
- 41:08[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, I don't think they're going to.
- 41:10[SPEAKER_00]: I can be very wrong because if the Raiders lower their price or if the bears are willing to get creative and give them the two ones if they can observe, because the Raiders have a lot of money.
- 41:23[SPEAKER_00]: So if the bears are like, all right,
- 41:25[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take Crosby, we'll give you two ones, but you gotta take Dio Dengbo, something like that.
- 41:31[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the bears would get more interested in doing something like that, or do a pickup grade.
- 41:36[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you give us Max Crosby, and a 2027-2, we'll give you two ones, and then you also gotta take Dio Dengbo, something like that.
- 41:46[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you could see maybe some creativity happening there.
- 41:51[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ryan pulls overall, now again, Chase Claypool,
- 41:55[SPEAKER_00]: one of the worst trades in Chicago Bears history.
- 41:58[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the worst, it's an absolutely absolutely horrendous trade.
- 42:04[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these other trades.
- 42:06[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan polls maybe cooks on trades.
- 42:08[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how well he evaluates in the draft.
- 42:11[SPEAKER_00]: I certainly question a lot of things that Ryan polls has done, but he cooks on trades.
- 42:15[SPEAKER_00]: I think this DJ Moore trade is great.
- 42:17[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of the other, obviously, the first trade for DJ Moore with the Bryce Young trade,
- 42:25[SPEAKER_00]: one of the great trades and NFL history.
- 42:27[SPEAKER_00]: I truly believe that, especially now, now DJ Moore has gone.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_00]: So when you look at that compensation, he's off the team.
- 42:34[SPEAKER_00]: But the bottom line here is, they basically traded that pick for Caleb Williams.
- 42:40[SPEAKER_00]: Bottom line, that's what happened.
- 42:41[SPEAKER_00]: It becomes one of the great trades and NFL history.
- 42:43[SPEAKER_00]: You don't get someone like Caleb Williams in a trade.
- 42:46[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't happen.
- 42:48[SPEAKER_00]: So for the bears,
- 42:52[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ryan Polls has done a tremendous job.
- 42:55[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, Bill Zimmerman is sitting here, saying Ryan Polls did a tremendous job on this trade for DJ Moore.
- 43:05[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Chicago Bears really cooked on this one.
- 43:08[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're confidently going to see Tramaine Edmunds off this team.
- 43:11[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if they can, if they're going to trade him.
- 43:14[SPEAKER_00]: I doubt they're going to be able to trade him.
- 43:16[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to get caught in the next couple days.
- 43:18[SPEAKER_00]: We will see.
- 43:20[SPEAKER_00]: Tyson Bayesian, another interesting one to watch.
- 43:24[SPEAKER_00]: If the bears are holding firm that it's got to be a two, maybe no team comes up to that and the bears keep them.
- 43:31[SPEAKER_00]: the bears are willing to give up a free.
- 43:34[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a team is willing to do a free.
- 43:35[SPEAKER_00]: Or the bears can maneuver it a little where they get a third and they package a six or a future something with Tyson, Tyson Beijing.
- 43:46[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I know a lot of bears fans love Tyson Beijing.
- 43:49[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a great story.
- 43:51[SPEAKER_00]: Like let's not pretend.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_00]: The kid from Shepherd College, UDFA, beats out admittedly a crappy quarterback in PJ Walker.
- 44:01[SPEAKER_00]: an NFL caliber quarterback and gets the number two spot on the Chicago Bears.
- 44:05[SPEAKER_00]: This is a great story.
- 44:07[SPEAKER_00]: Then he gets an offensive guru come in and the offensive guru says, I like Tyson Bayesian.
- 44:13[SPEAKER_00]: And basically talks about him like it's his own son at the NFL combine.
- 44:19[SPEAKER_00]: So clearly, Tyson Bayesian is a great story.
- 44:22[SPEAKER_00]: But I always bring this up because I think it's interesting.
- 44:26[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is, and this sounds ruthless, but what is the point of Tyson Beijing?
- 44:32[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mean that like to be to sound as negative as it does.
- 44:37[SPEAKER_00]: But what I mean by that is, Tom Moore, long time NFL coach, was the offensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts, when they had Peyton Manning back in the day.
- 44:47[SPEAKER_00]: And a media member was watching the Colts.
- 44:49[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember which one it was.
- 44:51[SPEAKER_00]: It's watching the Colts practice.
- 44:53[SPEAKER_00]: And Peyton Manning takes all the snaps with the ones.
- 44:56[SPEAKER_00]: And the maybe member goes to Tom Moro goes, why don't you ever give your back up quarterback any reps with the twos or I'm sorry, any reps with the ones Tom Moro looks at him and I'm going to swear here, pardon my French.
- 45:08[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Moro looks at him and says, if 18 goes down, we're fucked and we don't practice fucked.
- 45:15[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the Chicago Bears are at a point where Caleb Williams is such a talent and
- 45:26[SPEAKER_00]: that if he goes down, the bears aren't winning anything.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's not to say that Tyson Beijing can't keep the bears afloat, but if the bears this year are eight and four, and Caleb Williams, God forbid, not gonna want it doesn't happen.
- 45:41[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams goes down for the year.
- 45:44[SPEAKER_00]: or the bear's winning the Super Bowl with Tyson Bajan.
- 45:46[SPEAKER_00]: Do any of you think that?
- 45:47[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
- 45:48[SPEAKER_00]: So can the bears, can he get them 11 and 6?
- 45:53[SPEAKER_00]: And still make the playoffs?
- 45:55[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_00]: But is that exciting to you?
- 45:58[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what you want?
- 45:59[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're trying to win a Super Bowl here.
- 46:02[SPEAKER_00]: So Tyson Bajan is a good backup quarterback.
- 46:06[SPEAKER_00]: But you can find other good backup quarterbacks.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_00]: Tyrod Taylor is going to be available.
- 46:10[SPEAKER_00]: Tyrod Taylor.
- 46:13[SPEAKER_00]: excuse me, Tyrod Taylor is a good backup quarterback, you know, if case key to him's going to retire or what are he's going to stay and don't keen him had had value to the bears in that quarterback room.
- 46:22[SPEAKER_00]: Bring in a guy like Tyrod Taylor, who's a veteran presence, who's a quality backup, and can certainly keep things, you know, a float for the bears, if Caleb Williams is going to go down for four games, your backup quarterback, like you ever see the program with with Joe
- 46:44[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Kane gets in trouble, he's going to be out for four games.
- 46:48[SPEAKER_00]: Bobby Collins are back in quarterback.
- 46:50[SPEAKER_00]: I've gotten thrown off the team for cheating on a test.
- 46:53[SPEAKER_00]: And the boosters really want Bobby Collins to come back.
- 46:57[SPEAKER_00]: And why is it?
- 46:58[SPEAKER_00]: Because they don't want Eastern State University.
- 47:01[SPEAKER_00]: I think was the name of the school.
- 47:02[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want the season to go down the drain without Joe Kane.
- 47:06[SPEAKER_00]: They're starting quarterback.
- 47:07[SPEAKER_00]: So they said Bobby Collins is good enough to get us a split over the next four games.
- 47:16[SPEAKER_00]: That's Tyson Baygen, right?
- 47:18[SPEAKER_00]: He's good enough to get us a split over the next four games.
- 47:21[SPEAKER_00]: But so are other backup quarterback.
- 47:23[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're downwriting the backup quarterback a little bit, I sit there and say, who cares?
- 47:31[SPEAKER_00]: It's the backup quarterback.
- 47:32[SPEAKER_00]: We're not playing for backup quarterbacks.
- 47:36[SPEAKER_00]: We're playing for Super Bowl championships.
- 47:39[SPEAKER_00]: And Caleb Williams needs to play for a Super Bowl championship.
- 47:43[SPEAKER_00]: So trade Tyson Bayesian, if you can, if they get a three for them, run it in man, run in a three for Tyson Bayesian.
- 47:50[SPEAKER_00]: That is, that's how you win and football as a front office.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_00]: You take a UDFA, you sit on them for three years, and you trade them for a third run pick.
- 48:00[SPEAKER_00]: That is a home run for Ryan Polls, if that can happen.
- 48:05[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, Tyson Beach, it's a great story, Travis with the arm wrestling, and everything's a great story.
- 48:12[SPEAKER_00]: It gets the contract $10 million to the kid.
- 48:15[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.
- 48:16[SPEAKER_00]: It's all awesome.
- 48:19[SPEAKER_00]: But still, he is a backup quarterback.
- 48:21[SPEAKER_00]: The Chicago Bears aren't winning squat with Tyson Bager.
- 48:24[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't mean they can't win some football games.
- 48:26[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't mean they can't get into the playoffs with Ben Johnson's column plays.
- 48:29[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying they can't have a level of success.
- 48:34[SPEAKER_00]: But we're not trying to build a level of success here.
- 48:37[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to win a Super Bowl championship.
- 48:40[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying it's gonna happen in 2026.
- 48:41[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it does.
- 48:42[SPEAKER_00]: 2026, 2027, whatever it's gonna be.
- 48:45[SPEAKER_00]: And the way Ben Johnson is talking about Tyson Bayjan.
- 48:49[SPEAKER_00]: He's got two years now that that contract extensions kicking in, he's got two years.
- 48:55[SPEAKER_00]: Tyson Bayjan, the way Ben Johnson's talking about him, he wasn't gonna stay here after that contract was up.
- 49:00[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to stick around, learn from Ben for a while, make $10 million, then go out and have a chance to start somewhere.
- 49:07[SPEAKER_00]: That's clearly what Ben Johnson said.
- 49:09[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're gonna lose Tyson Bayjan for nothing in two years,
- 49:13[SPEAKER_00]: Why not trade something for them now?
- 49:16[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a guy who says, well, I'd like to trade it.
- 49:18[SPEAKER_00]: Let's keep one more year and try to next year.
- 49:21[SPEAKER_00]: The interesting thing about next year is the quarterback market shouldn't be as desperate as it is this year.
- 49:29[SPEAKER_00]: Like this year, you've got Kyler Murray, you know, Malik Willis is a hot commodity, even though he's thrown like 50 passes.
- 49:37[SPEAKER_00]: There aren't many quarterbacks to go around right now this year, but when you look at next year, one, Fernando Mendoza's the only quarterback here, Ty Simpsons kind of the two, he's kind of the Jackson D'Arda equivalent, maybe he'll sneak in around one, maybe he's around two guy.
- 49:56[SPEAKER_00]: Mendoza is the only guy who's gonna be coming in and starting most likely as a rookie this year.
- 50:01[SPEAKER_00]: And there's not a lot of veterans.
- 50:03[SPEAKER_00]: Next year, you already know you've got arch-maning and Dante Moore, one, two, almost certainly in the draft next year.
- 50:11[SPEAKER_00]: And there's gonna be other guys as well.
- 50:13[SPEAKER_00]: Next year's quarterback class looks much, much better.
- 50:17[SPEAKER_00]: So when you have that quarterback class and let's be honest,
- 50:27[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me, may or may not be ready.
- 50:29[SPEAKER_00]: Or may or may not be available next year.
- 50:33[SPEAKER_00]: The Carolina Panthers and Bryce Young.
- 50:35[SPEAKER_00]: You can't give Bryce Young a big contract right now, but based on how he's fighting, you have to pick up the fifth year option.
- 50:42[SPEAKER_00]: And after next year, Bryce Young is gonna have four years off his contract.
- 50:46[SPEAKER_00]: He's got one year left.
- 50:47[SPEAKER_00]: Does,
- 50:49[SPEAKER_00]: Art does, uh, does Bryce Young become available and a team that's looking for a bridge that's looking for one of those bottom 10 quarterbacks in the league.
- 50:59[SPEAKER_00]: Are they willing to go for Bryce Young?
- 51:01[SPEAKER_00]: And would your rather have Bryce Young over Tyson, Bageon?
- 51:04[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Stroud.
- 51:05[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a long shot, but CJ Stroud's the same situation.
- 51:08[SPEAKER_00]: Pick up the fifth year option.
- 51:10[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot extend him right now, based on how he's played the last two years.
- 51:14[SPEAKER_00]: You're still hoping he can catch lightning in a bottle like he did his rookie season.
- 51:18[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Stroud has another disappointing season.
- 51:21[SPEAKER_00]: That's three years in a row.
- 51:23[SPEAKER_00]: Would the Texans entertain a trade of CJ Stroud?
- 51:28[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Burrow is miserable and Cincinnati.
- 51:31[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying he's going to become available, but stranger things have happened.
- 51:35[SPEAKER_00]: If Joe Burrow is like, I am done with this franchise, get me the hell out of here.
- 51:40[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Joe Burrow becomes available.
- 51:42[SPEAKER_00]: Like you are going to have a more flooded market in 2027 for quarterbacks, no matter what.
- 51:49[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to trade Tyson Bayesian, before he becomes a free agent in 2028, it might make more sense.
- 51:56[SPEAKER_00]: or 2026, then 2027.
- 52:00[SPEAKER_00]: And Jay Evans says Archmany looks like a second on pick.
- 52:03[SPEAKER_00]: Jay, I was at the top of the list of making fun of Archmany.
- 52:08[SPEAKER_00]: In my chats and everything, I was drag and Archmany in September, October.
- 52:13[SPEAKER_00]: Go watch Archmany play in November.
- 52:15[SPEAKER_00]: and December and in the ballgame.
- 52:18[SPEAKER_00]: Go watch Arch.
- 52:19[SPEAKER_00]: That's a different quarterback.
- 52:20[SPEAKER_00]: He settled in.
- 52:21[SPEAKER_00]: He looked a lot different.
- 52:23[SPEAKER_00]: I think Arch Manning is going to have a massive season this year.
- 52:27[SPEAKER_00]: I think Arch Manning is going to win the Heisman or be runner up in the Heisman.
- 52:31[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be the number one pick in the draft.
- 52:34[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, what, what even comes in the NFL?
- 52:37[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 52:38[SPEAKER_00]: But it is, you know, hashtag March to Arch.
- 52:41[SPEAKER_00]: I think you are going to have like Miami.
- 52:43[SPEAKER_00]: I think you have teams that are going to be tanking for Arch Manning this upcoming year.
- 52:48[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a second round pick for Arch.
- 52:50[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is a wild comment.
- 52:51[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is easily a top five pick.
- 52:54[SPEAKER_00]: Probably going to be the number one pick.
- 52:57[SPEAKER_00]: in the draft.
- 52:59[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't get any more comments here.
- 53:01[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to wrap this thing up in a couple minutes.
- 53:03[SPEAKER_00]: We've been battling here for 53 straight minutes.
- 53:06[SPEAKER_00]: My throat, if you haven't noticed, is drying out rapidly because I've run out of water and there's only so much you can say about this bears off season.
- 53:15[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said,
- 53:16[SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot of names have been tied to the pairs.
- 53:18[SPEAKER_00]: I have not heard tray Hendrix's name tied to the bears at all.
- 53:22[SPEAKER_00]: Some people do in the dot connecting with Dennis Allen.
- 53:24[SPEAKER_00]: Cam Jordan not looks like he's going to be available.
- 53:27[SPEAKER_00]: You could do some dot connecting with Dennis Allen there.
- 53:30[SPEAKER_00]: But the one thing I'll say about this defense of line.
- 53:34[SPEAKER_00]: If you go get a guy like Max Cross, you go get a guy like Max Cross.
- 53:38[SPEAKER_00]: Dennis Allen wants to collapse the pocket.
- 53:42[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he wants to do.
- 53:44[SPEAKER_00]: He is not a guy that wants quarterbacks to be able to step up in the pocket because the Ed Drusher's get behind him, they step up and make throws.
- 53:52[SPEAKER_00]: So now what he's looking to do?
- 53:54[SPEAKER_00]: He's looking to have more beef in the middle.
- 53:57[SPEAKER_00]: and maybe not necessarily as much coming from the edge.
- 53:59[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if it's got to be sweat and cross me, he'll certainly make that work.
- 54:02[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to complain.
- 54:03[SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of going out and signing a free agent like Tray Hendrickson, and again, the defensive tackle class in terms of the free agent class, I'm not saying it's awesome, but is there a trade that can be had is Jonathan Allen?
- 54:17[SPEAKER_00]: Now that he's available, is that a guy they might look at?
- 54:21[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think everyone's just assuming the bears are going to go for an edge.
- 54:26[SPEAKER_00]: And they might, I'm not saying that's not going to happen.
- 54:28[SPEAKER_00]: They definitely need to add another body to the edge room, whether they get Max, Crosby, or not.
- 54:33[SPEAKER_00]: Dio, Dengmo cannot be relied on anything.
- 54:35[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy who was not productive.
- 54:38[SPEAKER_00]: And...
- 54:40[SPEAKER_00]: Torres Achilles, he's already tournament killies.
- 54:43[SPEAKER_00]: No one can figure out, I was on the score, Layla Rahimi, the midday show.
- 54:46[SPEAKER_00]: They had me on a week or two ago.
- 54:48[SPEAKER_00]: No one can figure out if Dio Dengbo has torn the same Achilles twice or if he's torn Achilles in both legs.
- 54:54[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knows, because he tore his other Achilles getting ready for the draft.
- 54:57[SPEAKER_00]: So that was kind of, that's basically under HIPAA, that's not getting reported by any teams.
- 55:02[SPEAKER_00]: So,
- 55:03[SPEAKER_00]: What can you get from Relyano Dengbo?
- 55:06[SPEAKER_00]: If Odenbo didn't have guaranteed money this year, he wouldn't be on the team, but they can't get out of the contract.
- 55:11[SPEAKER_00]: I think he actually leaves more dead money if you cut him than if you keep him on the roster.
- 55:16[SPEAKER_00]: It's a terrible second year contract.
- 55:17[SPEAKER_00]: He's only like 21 million dollar cap.
- 55:21[SPEAKER_00]: It's an awful, awful contract, but
- 55:24[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta keep him on the team because you don't have anyone.
- 55:27[SPEAKER_00]: So Odengbo, he's not a starting caliber player, Austin Booker, just coming in with him as your second edge, that's not a good idea.
- 55:34[SPEAKER_00]: Turner's coming off the ACL, you're gonna move him in the edge, you're gonna put him back in tackle.
- 55:39[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing there?
- 55:39[SPEAKER_00]: That's a question, they need bodies in the edge room.
- 55:42[SPEAKER_00]: They need quality bodies in the edge room.
- 55:44[SPEAKER_00]: So they need to add something there.
- 55:47[SPEAKER_00]: But the defensive tackle position, they don't have a game record there.
- 55:50[SPEAKER_00]: I think they hope Grady Jarrett was gonna give him something.
- 55:54[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he just didn't produce.
- 55:57[SPEAKER_00]: So the bottom line here is, can you get a disruptive defensive tackle?
- 56:01[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't, then maybe you pivot to edge.
- 56:04[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think they're going to be like, we're going to go out and get tray Hendrickson.
- 56:09[SPEAKER_00]: Max Crosby, I think, is a much better player.
- 56:12[SPEAKER_00]: I know some people are going to throw out numbers and say, Trey Hendrickson is a better pass or whatever.
- 56:17[SPEAKER_00]: Crosby's a great pass rusher.
- 56:18[SPEAKER_00]: He's also disruptive in the run game, which DA loves.
- 56:22[SPEAKER_00]: I think Crosby is far more of a guy.
- 56:24[SPEAKER_00]: Even though you have to give up compensation for him, I think he's a much better player than Trey Hendrickson.
- 56:28[SPEAKER_00]: He's also a couple years younger.
- 56:30[SPEAKER_00]: So to me,
- 56:32[SPEAKER_00]: When I look at this defensive line, if you can't get cross me, I think you get a reliable edge, nothing fancy, and you focus on what can we do to beef up the defensive tackles?
- 56:43[SPEAKER_00]: What can we do to be able to collapse the pocket, make things difficult for the quarterback on the interior?
- 56:50[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe flush them out more and get Montez sweat some easier opportunities or whether it's awesome book or whoever it might be on the outside instead of just trying to push from the outside which takes longer to get to the quarterback doesn't disrupt offensive past places much with how quickly plate teams get the ball out now.
- 57:09[SPEAKER_00]: You need to collapse the pocket.
- 57:10[SPEAKER_00]: DA knows this.
- 57:12[SPEAKER_00]: DA wants this
- 57:15[SPEAKER_00]: That's where they want to focus, which is why I think a lot of people think defensive tackle and round one, Peter Woods and Amy here, but...
- 57:21[SPEAKER_00]: we are.
- 57:22[SPEAKER_00]: We can't talk about what the bears are going to do in the draft till we see what they've done in free agency and trades in terms of how things are going to get figured out for this roster because we are going to see a lot of new faces on this defense.
- 57:36[SPEAKER_00]: You are going to see if you look at me what was considered to be the week one stars.
- 57:43[SPEAKER_00]: If you think of it as
- 57:50[SPEAKER_00]: Tyler Gordon, buyer, Brisker, Edwards, Edmunds, and then we'll call it Jarrett Dexter, O Dangbo, and Sweat.
- 58:00[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're, if Dexter's on this team, we've heard he might get traded.
- 58:03[SPEAKER_00]: I think Dexter's a rotational guy.
- 58:05[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they want Dexter to start.
- 58:07[SPEAKER_00]: Jarrett might be a really expensive rotational guy.
- 58:09[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it depends on what they can do at the tackle position.
- 58:12[SPEAKER_00]: We know Edmonds is gone.
- 58:13[SPEAKER_00]: We know Brisker is gone.
- 58:15[SPEAKER_00]: You can see four, five, six new starters on defense.
- 58:19[SPEAKER_00]: If they can swing it, financially, if they have rookies that step up and play really well,
- 58:24[SPEAKER_00]: and can come in and start right away.
- 58:27[SPEAKER_00]: So, a lot of things aren't flux for the bears.
- 58:30[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a really interesting next couple of weeks to see what they do, but it starts today with DJ Moore, being traded to the Buffalo Bills,
- 58:40[SPEAKER_00]: DJ Moran, a five to the bills for a second round pick, an excellent job by Ryan Polls.
- 58:48[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the number one critic of Ryan Polls right here, but I will always credit where credit is due.
- 58:54[SPEAKER_00]: I try and look at everything objective.
- 58:56[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Polls cooked on this one.
- 58:59[SPEAKER_00]: It is a hell of a trade for the Chicago Bears.
- 59:02[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to do it for bears banter.
- 59:05[SPEAKER_00]: We will be back again soon.
- 59:07[SPEAKER_00]: I know for a fact, it is on the calendar.
- 59:10[SPEAKER_00]: Courtney Cronan is going to join kind of when free agency wraps up.
- 59:14[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to do that one on the 23rd.
- 59:17[SPEAKER_00]: So that's probably going to be out on Tuesday, the 24th.
- 59:20[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we'll get another one before then, but you can put that one on the calendar that that one's coming.
- 59:25[SPEAKER_00]: The Chicago Bears, going to be interesting.
- 59:28[SPEAKER_00]: We will talk the next time.
- 59:30[SPEAKER_00]: Bear it out, everybody.
- 59:32[SPEAKER_00]: Adios.