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12/13/2023 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Police Chief Joe Crawford, Charlie Kolean, Lt. David Payne, and Secretary Mac Warner · The Dave Allen Show

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Warner coming up a little bit later on. Also, today is the first
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day of the Charleston Police departments annual toy Drive. It they do with As
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Torgato. We're going to talk to some folks from the police department coming up
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a little bit later on. They'll be on for the second straight And we
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have a gentleman in the studio with us and he is from I've a little
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deep dive on this last night. The name of the group is Americans for
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Citizen Voting and we're going to explain to you why that's supporting Charlie Cooleen is
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whether it's going to join him a little bit later. Rob, Well,
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we've got a big story I want to get to locally this morning. I
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want to bring into the show. St Albans up Police Chief Joe Crawford,
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Good morning, Sara. How are you. Good morning, Dave. I'm
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doing fine, Thank you for being here. Officer involves shooting. We've got
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some information available on the website. Give us what you know at this point.
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What happened in Saint Albans last night, Sir. About twelve twenty five
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am, Saint Albans Police Department responded to a domestic in the twenty seven hundred
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block of Lincoln Avenue there in the east end of the city. Responded to
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domestic officer he'd gone on seeing there's a male suspect in the house. Mail
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individual in the house that Brandy Stay a knife during our encounter and the officers
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attempted to use less lethal force with a taser and it was not able to
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subdue and bring them into custody. Right now, still early in the investigation,
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we still have our Sriff's department is on scene finishing up the crime scene.
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But apparently from preliminary indications, are that there was three officers involved,
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one from Saint Albans and two from Nitro the Sheriff's Department. We're investigating the
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criminal side of it. We're esciming do the criminal side. Now. Saint
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Albans and Nitro will respectively be doing their internal reviews as well on the policy
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issues. But we're conducting the criminal and we're finishing up there at the scene.
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Really, as we speak, Jue Crawford is with us talking about this
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officer of all shooting. Joe, You've been doing this for a long time.
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This is the worst possible outcome anytime that a tragic event like this happens,
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Sir, it is uh in a time of year. Uh. Always
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during the holidays you see an increased call volume for domestics. But this one,
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uh is tragic. Uh In it's in itself. But the officers did
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what they should have done from freemari in indications that you know, they attempted
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to use non legal force and ultimately ended up having to re use deadly force.
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So it's an unfortunate event, uh, during during the holiday season.
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Yeah. Well, Joe, I appreciate you. I reached out to you
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early this morning by coming on the show this morning. I know you got
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the investigation continue, so we'll let you go. Thanks for coming on and
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updating this on this tragic situation. Thanks a lot, Joe, I appreciate
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it. Thank you all. You all take care of them. Appreciate you.
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I thank you a lot against Joe Crawford, that officer involved shooting in
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the group of Americans for Citizen Voting, who asked for some time here in
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the studio this morning. Charlie, good morning, and welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having me, Thank you for being here. Tell me
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about this group, first, Americans for Citizen Voting. What is the group
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all about and what does this organization stand for. Yeah, so we're a
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group with a nationwide focus where believe that the only people voting in elections local,
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state, federal should be US citizens. So, okay, I'm presuming
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and what I said, I kind of did a deep dive on some some
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research on this. I thought, I'm presuming that most folks think that in
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order to cast a ballot in an election in America, you have to be
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a US citizen. But in doing some research for that, you're saying that
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that isn't always the case. Yeah, that's a really common misperception. So
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what we've seen in San Francisco, New York, d C. And some
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other municipalities, they'll elect for something called home rule and they can decide who
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votes in their local elections. And we feel it's really fundamental to our country
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to make sure only citizens are voting. Now, according to what I read,
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the states of and correct me if I'm wrong, Alabama, Arizona,
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Colorado, Florida, Minnesota, and North Dakota have provisions in their respective constitutions
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that say no one can vote in an election who isn't a citizen. Correct.
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And for this upcoming year as well, voters in the states of Wisconsin
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and Ohio and Iowa are going to have that choice as well on the ballot.
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And then we hope to get this in ten other states where voters will
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be able to choose whether they want to have only citizens voting in their election,
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which I think many voters really believe is a no brainer. Yeah.
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And West Virginia is one of those states that does not have a provision in
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the constitution that prohibits non citizens from voting in local election. Now, there
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is an interesting distinction between local and federal. Is that right? Correct?
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Correct? And so our goal in coming to West Virginia is to get a
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ballot proposal on the twenty twenty four ballot to give West Virginians the choice to
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vote on citizens only voting, which we believe they'll overwhelmingly support. And so
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why is this so important to your organization in nationwide? Why is there such
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a move on this? Explain that. Yeah, well, number one,
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we've seen a rise in certain people calling for anyone to be able to vote
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in elections simply you're either a citizen or you're a guest in this country.
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And we believe only citizens should be voting because they're really the only people who
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are bought into this country, bought into our values, take a longer term
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view on voting, and I think would vote more responsibly if someone's just here,
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for example, from a foreign country and their kids are attending local public
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school and they argue, well, we should be able to vote in this
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local school board election because our kids attend that school. Well, they have
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such a narrow focus interest, they're not taking a holistic view when they're going
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into the ballot box. Talking with Charlie Colleen again from the group Americans for
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Citizen Voting here on the Day Allen Show on five to eighty live. Has
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this sort of thing been a problem in West Virginia or in other states?
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Yeah, Well, I mean the biggest states we've seen this in is San
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Francisco, are California, San Francisco, New York City they passed something where
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eight hundred thousand foreign citizens will be able to vote in their local elections.
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And I mean, as some of these laws are written as well for nonsistants
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to vote, you know, you could see people in Washington, d C.
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Who are working in a foreign embassy for China, Russia, any of
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these countries voting in a local DC election, which I think is absolutely ridiculous.
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So I want to kind of circle back to West Virginia here and excuse
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my ignorance on this, but in order in order to get this changed in
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West Virginia, as you alluded to a little bit earlier, Charlie here,
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that would require change to the state's constitution and then would have to be put
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on the ballot for people to decide. Is that right? Correct? Correct?
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And we really believe the constitutional amendment route is the best route to go,
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because you know, politicians come and go and laws can change much more
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easily. But if we get this in the constitution, it's really a fundamental
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change to the state to how people vote. And I think it's going to
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be a long term positive change. Now, has your group in other states
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that you've worked on to try to get this on the ballot or get it
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passed or whatever in other states, has your group specifically been successful in this,
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Yes, we've been successful. So this has been in six states already
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and we plan to do ten states this year. And so this will be
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something that the legislature when they gabble in next month would probably be taking a
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look at. They'll pass it, and then it will go before the voters.
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Correct. So we're doing everything we can to get this on the attention
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of legislative leaders, to make sure this is a priority and that they vote
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on this so it appears on the twenty twenty four ballot. Do you anticipate
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any issues? I mean, this is a red state, it's a Republican
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state. Conservative say, I can't imagine a whole lot of people would have
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issue. There may be some, but I mean, do you anticipate much
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of a fight here in West Virginia. Well, there's never a lot of
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pushback on the merits of the argument. I think it's common sense where a
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lot of people would agree, yes, only usys and should be voting in
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all elections. But really the biggest thing we face is making sure people take
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this seriously and push it forward, because they could say, is this really
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an issue? Could this really happen in West Virginia? But we say,
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well, look at these other states. If it's happening over there, eventually
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it's going to come here, So like, deal with it now? Will
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you have the political will? Where can people learn more about this? I
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know you're kind of early on in the process in West Virginia, but I
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was on your website last night. You've got a lot of information from other
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states on there. Where can people learn more about them? Yeah? So
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it's Citizens Only Voting dot com and Americans for Citizens Voting dot com and those
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are the websites that they can check out. You've got an active presence on
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social media as well, Charlie. Any final words that you'd like to leave
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the people with, because there could be people listening to this right now that
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may think, Okay, well, I don't really think that that's that big
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of a I don't think that this is that big of a deal. You
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would say to them, what, well, I would say, look at
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where this is happening in other states. I mean, eight hundred thousand people
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in New York are going to be voting who aren't US citizens. This is
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I think a really serious one hundred thousand, eight hundred thousand is what their
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local law will allow for with electing to do home rule. So I mean,
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this is something serious that people should pay attention and they're gonna have a
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choice to actually like make a call on it in twenty twenty four. So
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like I would say, make the right choice, and you'll never have to
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deal with it again and again. This has to go before the legislature.
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You're gonna be working the phones and working and shaking a lot of hands and
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whatever with the legislators to try to get this on the ballot. And if
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it does make it to a ballot, initiate, because again it would have
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to be agreed upon by the voters, it would be in I guess the
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November twenty twenty four election, correct, Charlie. I appreciate you taking time
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on your schedule to be here. Now, where's home for you? Where
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are you from? Dallas, Texas? You know you're speaking to the world's
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biggest Dallas cowboy fan here right, excellent? I'll go Cowboys all right,
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all right, we'll leave it at that. This is our year, right
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it is. It's just like every year. It's just like every year.
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Talking to you guys over in the corner. This is a private conversation over
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here, all right, Charlie. I appreciate you being here. And again
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the website is Americans Assistants Voting dot com. All right, Charlie Cole and
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if contributing to the country is the standard for voting, should migrant workers
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way. So we really don't have to worry about hordes of non citizens taking
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over local elections or even coming here. Remember this only affects local elections.
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No need to panic. According to a texture, well, today is the
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opening day, if you will, of the two day Charleston Police Department's Annuel
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Toy drive good folks into Astorgado. Assisting with that it gets underway in a
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couple of hours. A good friend, Lieutenant David Payne, is here for
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the Charleston Police Department. Good morning, sir, how are you? Good
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morning? Thanks for having us, and we also have another guest with us
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today. Would you like to introduce yourself to the folks. Good morning,
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I'm Lauren Swanson. Now, Lauren, what is your part in all this?
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So? I am helping raise brand awareness with graphic design, little bit
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of public relations PR my field next to broadcasting, and I'm not good at
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either one. Again, there's no need for comments, no need for comments.
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You know somebody, Dave, it's kind of rare to have somebody on
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the show two days in a row, but you're able to pull it off
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because here at the station, we really believe in this and what you guys
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are going to be doing. What time do you start today? We kick
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off at eleven o'clock. Saanta arrives at noon at the parking lot of anny
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keatam. It'll go on today from eleven to seven. We're accepting new unwrapped
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toys for kids up to eighteen years of age. And I know, Dave,
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that the sometimes, and I've planned a lot of events in my time,
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I know that sometimes the day is leading up to an event can be
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more stressful than the actual event itself. Sometimes it takes care of itself once
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you're there. Talk about what it's been like, both of either one of
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you running around like crazy trying to get things ready for this two days.
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You know what, it hasn't really has been as hard as you think,
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I think, because of our love and passion for what we're doing for the
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kids. But Leeah, last night we were in that parking lot. We
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transformed the parking lot to a wonderland for the kids. Our officers worked really
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hard. I said, this is really the only place you can mix match
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the lights without your wife really getting mad at you. But it's a it's
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a really nice place over there. It's He'll be surprised once you come and
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enjoy it. Talk about the buy in guys from the community on this Oh,
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it's been huge. You know. Without their support, we really couldn't
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pull this off. We've had a lot of organizations and individuals come together to
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help this out. Last year, we were able to serve seven hundred and
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fifty children and we hope to beat that this year. And the weather looks
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good. I always like to talk about the weather. Next couple of days.
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You can't can't beat it. Shine. It's really going to be nice.
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The kids are really excited about seeing Santa Lauren. Let's I'm gonna talk
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to you for a second. Let's talk about getting the word out to people.
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I mean, you've used this show, but not just this show that's
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the only one that matters anyway, I'm kidding, But you've gotten the word
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out and through the media and through social media. Talk about what that's like.
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Absolutely so. The Charleston Police Department has done a wonderful job with the
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relationships that they have that are existing, and also our sponsors, you know,
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as Lieutenant Pain said, it truly takes the village and are the sponsors
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who have served as drop off locations for us, those who have helped out
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with our event. Everybody has really gone out of their way to you know,
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volunteer their time, volunteer their space, make food for people, but
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also help us get the word out. And that has been instrumental in this
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process. And you've discussed this in the past, but just in case,
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Lieutenant, people are listening for the first time, how do you go about
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gathering the toys? How do you go about choosing who gets them? And
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then the distribution? Talk about that all right, So there's an application process.
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So we actually put it out on our Facebook page on Sunday. We
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reached a point where we had to cut it off because and then we reached
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that point probably within about two hours. We hope to put that site back
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up to accept an applications once we receive additional toys. But once we we're
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collect them at benny keatam, we'll take them on Friday over to the Colisseum
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and that's where we're bag and tagging all the toys for pickup on Monday and
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Tuesday for those that filled out the application. And talk about the help that
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you get from the folks there at Benny Keaton, because they do a great
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job as well. All they're wonderful, they're they're a really good host,
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they're just really wonderful people. We've worked with them now for four years and
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they're very accommodating, just very good people to work with. And again you've
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discussed this because you've been in this third times you've been on the show to
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talk about this, But I just want to make sure we get the message
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out there as far as the history of this and where it came from and
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this whole idea. Talk about that. Sure. So it really started off
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during COVID where the FOP provides us with one thousand dollars to do shop with
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the cop and we usually give five kids two hundred dollars, but that year
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the funds that they weren't there, so I basically approached the chief and said,
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hey, I'd like to do a toy drive. My idea at the
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time was really just taking our pickup truck and going under the Interstate or at
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an intersection and really hoping to get maybe a truckload of toys. You know,
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one thing led to another. During the Cassie Johnson's funeral, I was
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standing in the Civic Center and looking over the Minnie Keeman's parking lot and all
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the police officers cars were lit up in blue unfortunately, and it gave me
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the idea, maybe this would be a good place to have our toy drive.
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And then I've received a call from Astorgatto and Lows and helped me decorate
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and provide the funds to kick it off that year and we went from really
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a small idea to serving over seven hundred and fifty children. Over seven hundred
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and fifty children and again this started out as a Charleston think, but it's
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gone well beyond that now. Oh sure, Yeah, we have Astore god
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Or like I said, they're involved there. They're big sponsor to pull this,
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to help us pull this off. Really without them, it wouldn't be
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as big as it is. And without the help from the community also.
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Yeah, and speaking of the community, I've brought this up and you've been
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on the show in the past. If people are listening today and they're part
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of a church or a civic organization or a business or individuals or whatever.
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You'll take whatever help that they can give right, Oh, for sure,
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And no donation is too small. We have a we have a site on
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Yeah, indeed, uh so, uh, let's kind of put put the
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bow on it here, no pun intended. So it starts in about what
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an hour, an hour and a half, starts at eleven eleven o'clock.
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So, so Dave tells me, the more time he spends here, the
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last time he has toliff boxes. That's right strategic, Lauren. Lauren and
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Dave were going to say, I was I was on the radio for eight
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hours. Man a lot to talk about. So it starts eleven o'clock this
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morning goes until what time, This evening goes until seven, so Santa will
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off for Sanna. It's they're they're really excited about being there. But yeah,
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we'll be there all the way till seven o'clock to night, and then
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you'll be there tomorrowmorrowm eleven to seven, eleven to seven tomorrow. So,
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uh, if if you can break away from work and go down there,
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if you can come after work, I mean, and there's a lot of
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things going on all everybody's busy during the holiday season. But with so much
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Lauren will kind of close with this, that smile that you see on a
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kid's face when they get that toy at Christmas, and we don't know these
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kids, and you know, you're into police business, Dave. A lot
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of these kids, you know, they they face things that people of our
26:07
generation, probably kids of our generation, never had to face. And this
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may be in many cases it is the only gift that they get this Christmas
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season, oh for sure. For sure. And we and we really see
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the appreciation coming from the parents once we deliver these toys. Some of them
26:22
are individually delivered. You know. We actually use a lot of these toys
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to for the victims of crime that we've come across throughout the years. So
26:30
yeah, all these toys go to a good cause, and we really appreciate
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everyone's help. That's a really good point that you brought that up. And
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that's something else I may have you on the show to talk about at another
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time is when an officer or officers go into a situation, you know like
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I mean it's you know, this is mommy and daddy or whatever's going on
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nature for that purpose as well. Oh, correct, and it's been a
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huge help just to you know, to to relax a child, just to
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bring them on our side, that to know that we are their friend,
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that we're there to help them, and they and they actually remember that.
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There's so many times where kids come up to me throughout the year and thank
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me and know my name or say hi. So it's it's really helpful.
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Lieutenant Payne you're a rock star man. You just keep doing what you do
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to the show. West Virginia Secretary of State and googlenatorial candidate Mac Warner.
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Good morning, sir, Thank good morning, Dave gread to be with you.
32:02
Thank you for being here. Let's get right to it. These the
32:07
comments that you made last week during the gubernatorial forum debate whatever you want to
32:13
call it, with Hoppy in Morgantown. The comments were not only big news
32:16
here in West Virginia, but also nationwide. During the gubernatorial debate last Thursday
32:23
night of Morgantown, that's when you sent a broadcast course here on Metro News
32:28
and all of our stations, you said about the twenty twenty presidential election that
32:31
it was it was stolen in part by the CIA, the FBI, big
32:37
Tech. Do you stand by the comments, sir, and what do you
32:39
base this on? Absolutely? I do recall it's a bit ironic. I
32:45
said the same thing back in April in front of Congress. I testified to
32:49
that, and we put out a press release on it. So it's kind
32:51
of funny that here we are six months later and it's now making big news.
32:53
But it's because I'm in a gubernatorial race, and you know the way,
32:58
And Hoppy asked the question. Hoppy was looking for a yes or no
33:00
answer, and Hoppy's a talk show host and he gets listeners both sometimes having
33:05
controversy, and he got the controversial answer he wanted when I said yes.
33:09
And here's the background to that. It's yes because it was an improper it's
33:14
an unfair election generated by Tony Blinken, who was on Biden's campaign, who
33:20
went to the former acting CIA director Mike Morell and said, look, the
33:24
Hunter Biden laptop is going to be breaking news and we have to have a
33:29
talking point for Biden when Trump brings this up in the debate. And so
33:34
Morell ran with that, and he got fifty one so called intelligence experts to
33:37
sign a letter that said the Russian had the Russians had hacked Hunter Biden's laptop,
33:44
it was Russian disinformation. Well, they both knew that it wasn't and
33:47
this isn't my opinion. Morell has testified to that under oath. To Jim
33:52
Jordan, the House Judiciary Chair, he did this in March, and he
33:55
said, yes, we did that for the express purpose of helping Joe Biden.
34:00
We did not want Trump to be president. So this isn't conjecture or
34:04
you know my opinion, this is fact that they've admitted to under oath.
34:07
And so this was done to change the outcome of the election. And it
34:12
worked because at the debate Biden used that and it put Trump back on his
34:15
heels, and there wasn't time between the time of the debate and the election
34:20
to fact check and get it all out. Well, now here we are
34:22
two years later. And it took two years, Dave, because the Republicans
34:27
had to get elected in twenty twenty two November twenty twenty two, and then
34:30
start holding these hearings in this year January fevery March of this year, and
34:36
that's when all this started to come out. So that's why we're still talking
34:38
about this two and three years later. And so when Hoppy asked that question,
34:44
was it stolen? Had I answered no, then I wouldn't be true
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to the people of West Virginia. In this unique position of being the chief
34:52
elections officer for the state of West Virginia, and I owe it to the
34:55
people to share what information I have. There's probably nobody in this state that
35:00
has studied this more, looked into it more than I have, and I
35:04
owe it to people. It's kind of the oath that I led I had
35:07
as a cadet at West Point, that a cadet will lie, cheaters,
35:09
deal or tolerate those who do well. The FBI tolerated this lie. They
35:15
tolerated it by not coming clean. Senator John Kennedy from Now in Louisiana had
35:22
Christopher Ray, the FBI director, under oath recently and he asked him,
35:27
why didn't you just come clean with the American people. You didn't have to
35:29
say Hunter Biden was guilty of anything. Just come clean and say yes,
35:32
the laptop was real. And he didn't have an answer, So the FBI
35:37
covered it up, and then it got worse. The FBI went to big
35:39
Tech and told them to suppress the story, and so you saw Trump being
35:43
taken off of Twitter. Mark Zuckerberg has admitted to Joe Rogan on his show
35:47
that yes, the FBI came and told us to suppress the story. So
35:52
now we're getting into First Amendment rates, the right to free speech and being
35:54
suppressed. So this is just about as bad as bad can get that this
35:59
is happening in the United States of America by our own three thatttered agencies.
36:04
We don't want three thatttered agencies to determine the outcome of an election. We
36:07
want the American voters to determine that. So that's why we're talking about it.
36:12
That's why it's important so that we watch for this and don't have this
36:15
happened to us again in next year's election. Talking to mac one Er against
36:19
Secretary of Staying Canada for Governor of the Secretary. What do you make of
36:22
the fact, though, that this has been adjudicated in courts after court after
36:27
court and they found no merit to the claims. Well, this hasn't been
36:31
adjudicated day. What you're talking about some specific cases in state courts. See
36:36
down in Georgia, they wouldn't even appoint a judge to hear the case until
36:38
after the action was certified and the inauguration has happened. So on that's gamesmanship.
36:44
It's called lawfair. The one time is using law to try to make
36:47
their case. So this sort of thing has not been adjudicated. This is
36:52
the FBI lying to the American people in the military. We call it a
36:55
psychological operation. You see, I might do this in some other country,
37:00
but they shouldn't be doing that here in the United States. And that's why
37:01
it's so important to hold them accountable, call them out. Jim Jordan is
37:06
doing that with the OSS Judiciary Committee. Other Senators are now on board,
37:09
asking those same questions so that the voters can go to the polls well educated
37:15
next time and not have the pulled over their aspect they did in twenty twenty
37:20
talk with Mack Warner, and again full disclosure in those who listened to this
37:22
show daily note, I worked for you for four years, starting in January
37:27
twenty seventeen, until I left on what I hope was good terms in the
37:30
summer of twenty twenty one. And I know that during that time the state
37:32
of West Virginia MIC was recognized nationally by various groups for election integrity. I
37:37
heard you say that when you're on a hobby show with Dave Wilson yesterday,
37:42
for doing things right in no small part to the hard work of West Virginia's
37:45
county clerks working in conjunction with your office. Are you concerned that some election
37:52
officials sre in here in West Virginia may be maybe bothered by the comments that
37:58
you made that maybe you're bringing into question the integrity of their of their brethren
38:00
and elections in the elections business in other parts of the country. Have you
38:05
heard from any of them or is that something that concerned you? Nobody has
38:07
raised that with me. You see, there was another thing. Back to
38:12
my West Point days. We prayed every week at Cadet prayer that says,
38:15
in Dallas, with courage to know no fear when truth and ripe are in
38:19
jeopardy. Well, I think truth and right are jeopardy when our three hundred
38:22
agencies are working against basic democracy. It also says, choose the harder right
38:28
instead of easier wrong. It's not easy to take on hopekirchil Okay and three
38:31
hundred agencies. All right, but this is what's required of me with the
38:37
oath that I've taken, And the other is to not be content with a
38:42
half truth when the whole can be one. What the CIA was doing was
38:45
playing with these half truths. They said it has all the indisha of Russia
38:50
disinformation, Well, they knew that that was going to get paid out,
38:52
that it was Russian distance information and so on. And so my oath as
38:55
a commissioned officer was that I would support and defend the Constitution of the United
39:00
States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And I've never had to worry
39:04
about the domestic part until right now. This is the first time in my
39:07
entire career, five decades of service to the state and to the country,
39:12
that I've ever had to worry about this domestic enemy, and that is our
39:15
own federal government. I really never thought that I would have to worry about
39:21
our own federal government, but here we are. So that's why it's important
39:23
to talk about it. And I appreciate you having me on so I can
39:25
explain in more detail rather than just a yes or no answer about an election
39:30
that was taken by trickery. You know, last week you'reing that debate,
39:34
and I watched it, and I appeared on talk Line the next day.
39:37
Matter of fact, I'm going to be on with Dave Wilson coming up at
39:38
ten thirty this morning on talk Line, that roundtable discussion yourself Attorney General Patrick
39:45
Morrissey, Well, he wasn't actually there, but he is one of the
39:47
candidates, auto dealer, Chris middle Deelli get to more Capital all. You
39:52
know, I think you would be safe to say that they are all supporters
39:58
of Trump. I don't know that any has gone to the link though,
40:00
that you have in discussing this. Because this story, Mac, I mean
40:06
immediately after it happened and you uttered those words last Thursday night, it went
40:10
nationwide. I mean Brad's story that he did on it ended up on the
40:15
Drudge Report. I know You've had interest from some pretty big name talk show
40:17
host on the talk show circuing Fox News, some of these other outlets.
40:23
Are you Are you surprised at the reaction that this has gotten well only because
40:30
we did this six months ago. I raised it right after the testimony when
40:34
Morell admitted to all of this, and I went to Congress and I raised
40:37
it at that time, and we put out press release and it didn't get
40:39
much attention. But now again because I'm running for governor, it has gotten
40:44
some wider attention and acclaim. And I think people are half the this country
40:50
has divided. Half of the country want Trump back in there in the worst
40:52
sort of way, and half the country will do anything they can to stop
40:54
it. And this is evidence of those people inside our government. They're going
40:59
to do anything they can to stop it. So they see that this is
41:02
what's coming in twenty twenty four, and that's why it's so important that we
41:07
do look back, we analyze what happened, and then prevent it from happening
41:09
again. Let's have a free and fair election and then see how the chips
41:14
fall. But we shouldn't be having this influence in proper influence by federal officials
41:22
weighing in on the election. So let's give credit back to those county clerks
41:24
that I've worked with very closely now for seven years. We've had That's why
41:28
West Virginia is doing so well. We have a very clean election system that
41:31
the legislature is laid out, and we abide by the rules. We don't
41:35
change the rules in the middle of the game like Pennsylvania did, Michigan,
41:37
Wisconsin, Arizona and others. That's where the problems occurred when you used unsupervised
41:44
drop boxes and just allow people to shove ballots in there and the rest.
41:47
Melson just did a poll here that was released. I saw it yesterday,
41:52
said twenty one percent of the people that voted by mail cheated in some form
41:55
or fashion, you know, sending filling a ballot out for their wife or
41:59
whatever, not signing it and that sort of thing. We have to be
42:01
very careful about this voting by mail. You want to vote in person at
42:06
your local precinct under the watchful life train observers of both parties voting on election
42:10
day. That's the most secure form of voting, and only if the legislature
42:14
has given you an authorized reason to vote absentee that should be very limited in
42:20
number. And traditionally West Virginia has voted in person on election day. Before
42:24
COVID, we only had about seven thousand people voting statewide using the absentee system,
42:30
and so we've gotten back closer to that now that COVID's over with,
42:35
and I hope we can continue to move in that direction. Voter ID we
42:37
have implemented that very successfully here in West Virginia, and we report results on
42:43
election night. All of those are the things that add confidence to elections.
42:45
And while we're seeing some record turnout in West Virginia, and I sure hope
42:50
that we do that again in twenty twenty four. Again, Mike, for
42:53
the record, are because I've heard you say trickery and I've heard you say
42:59
stolen. For the record, I'm uninterrupt I'm gonna let you say, do
43:02
you believe that the twenty twenty presidential election was indeed stolen? Or the Joe
43:08
Biden? Do you recognize Joe Biden as President of the United States? I
43:13
recognized Joe as president? But is it legitimate? When you add that word
43:16
legitimate, now you start to get into another realm. And I love to
43:21
use the football analogy of the nineteen ninety Colorado Missouri game when Colorado got five
43:25
downs and they scored on the fifth down and win the game. They won
43:29
the game, they advanced onto the National Championship. Okay, but was it
43:34
legitimate? No, the rules of football say you don't have five downs,
43:37
you get four downs. And so when a ref makes a bad call at
43:39
the end of a game, what what does every loyal Mountaineer yell, Oh,
43:44
the game was stolen. So I don't want to get into the you
43:46
know what the definition definition of stolen is, but if you actually look at
43:51
it, it's taking something by trickery fits that definition of stolen when you do
43:57
it deceitful, when you do it surreptitiously. And that's what happened in this
44:00
election, and I don't want it to happen again. Mac Warner, Secretary
44:05
of State and a candidate for governor. We wish you the best luck with
44:07
the campaign. We'll talk again soon. Thanks a lot, Thanks, savea
44:12
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because what you don't know can hurt you. Going to try to get to
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as many of these text as I can. Text says ask Mike Warner to
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correct the lies. The Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss committed fraud
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of the twenty twenty election. They were undisputedly defamed, Yet Warner tolerates the
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lives about Freeman and Moss doesn't even care that those lives cause death threats.
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If Mac appears on your shows, a candidate in secretary of state who's paying
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for his time, says a textri can the taxpayers get reimbursed for his use
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of government time for personal political errands. Well, I'm going to go down
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that one. You're gonna have to do that for every politician, regardless of
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party. Tex says it was not the FBI that suppressed the votes. It
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was a group of folks with foreign policy experience. Also, Trump was kicked
47:34
off Twitter after January sixth. One thing I don't agree with mac Warner on
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is the fact that Twitter, Facebook, whatever, they're private entities. They
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can kick off whoever they want. They're just like their business. It's not
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free speech, not censorship because they're not controlled by the government. I will
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say that tech, says Mac Warner. Operating the Secretary of State's office with
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integrity has now lost all integrity, and my respect is a texture. What
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a blank loser? Says a Texter, blank being the key thing there,
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Texas. Former CIA people say a lot of things. Lots of former federal
48:09
employees say all kinds of things. Crazy town. Trump was taking off Twitter
48:14
because of the insurrection and nothing else. Tex says. He used to say
48:19
the election was stolen. Now he says it was by trickery. Snake oil
48:22
salesman, says a Texter. Texas says, oh so, now the man
48:24
who won is now an illegitimate president. This is third world foolishness. By
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the way, you ask good questions, says a texture text says, how
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do you feel about having a new Trump extremist on your show? Why give
48:42
this not a platform for anything? Maybe he'll get a Trump endorsement to help
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his struggling campaign. Well, I give him, and I give him a
48:47
platform because it's called free speech, and because he asked for it, just
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as Mike Pushkin, Greg Thomas, all the others asked for it. Because
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I turned no one away here and he's a candidate for governor and he's Secretary
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of State tex says Dave. I was leaning toward Patrick Morrison, but now
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I'm going to vote for Mac Warner. He's a man of courage, maturity,
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and common sense. His experience and government affairs will make him a great
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governor, U Texas, Dude's full of it. It was Trump's CIA,
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FBI, et cetera. I hate this man with a passion for his dire
49:17
weakness and pathetic subservience to Trump. What an absolute MANI man, a tiny,
49:22
worthless soul of emasculated pleading to his masters. I cannot wait until he
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vanishes into the conspiracy trash where all theffeckless goons disappear. Those are some pretty
49:34
pretty big words there, uh. Tex says Macwarner needs a psychological operation.
49:40
Texas, forget Mike Warner and his dead brain views. I want to hear
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Hollywood Jeff's opinion on the Dodgers shining shohey a Tani, Well, we'll do
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that on another show. Maybe we'll do that on Friday show. We'll talk
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a little sports then, ud Texas, Warner took voters off the rolls that
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not voted in two years it was still living. He should not taken anyone
50:00
off the rolls unless they request to be taken off. Editor's note. I
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did work in the Secretary of State's office, and there was a big process
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that led to taking hundreds of thousands of people off the voter roles, including
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contacting them on two different occasions and asking them if they would like to remain
50:15
on the voter rolls, and if they heard nothing, then they were taken
50:17
off. I do know something about that. Tex says, does he think
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Trump stole the election from Clinton? She was up double digits and he won.
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Fixes Shame on Warner using West Point as he blows the dog whistle for
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the cult Trump was president and over the FBI and CIA in twenty twenty.
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This typical fear mongering to those who are easily led astray disappointed he would stoop
50:44
so low. What proof, says a Texter secretary, Warner had, that
50:49
this one issue was enough to sway the election? More conspiracy theories that the
50:52
election was stolen. I expect better from our state officials. Won't be voting
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for Mike Warner Texas. What a total joke. Corner is an embarrassment to
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I mean I do marketing. You know, I've done marketing in my in
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my past. I have worked on some political campaigns in the past. This
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is this is good. This is good marketing by mac Warner. And I'm
51:45
not saying that he doesn't truly believe this, because I now truly believe that
51:47
he does believe this. Okay, but a whole lot of people are talking
51:52
nationwide about mac Warner at this point, some of whom may not have been
51:58
before very early that it's Patrick Morrissey's race to lose. You got more capital,
52:01
more capital. By the way, we'll be on the show next week,
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Chris Miller and now mac Warner. Mac Warner has dominated the news cycle
52:09
for me pretty much ever since since Thursday as far as the governor's race goes.
52:16
So you know, there you go, all right, Hollywood. Jeffettyo
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is my producer. Thank you so much to all of our guests on the
52:23
show today. I will be coming up on talk Line with Dave Wilson at
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ten thirty this morning. Follow the news of the day. WV Metronews dot
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com at WCHS network dot com. Coming up on the show to market on
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a countychemistry, Benceulango is here and delegate State Democratic Party chair Mike Pushkin will
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be on the show tomorrow. I wonder what he thinks about all this.
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have worked on some political campaigns in the past. This is this is good.
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This is good marketing by mac Warner. And I'm not saying that he
53:29
doesn't truly believe this, because I now truly believe that he does believe this.
53:32
Okay, but a whole lot of people are talking nationwide about mcwarner at
53:38
this point, some of whom may not have been before very early that it's
53:43
Patrick Morrissey's race to lose. You got more capital, more capital. By
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the way, we'll be on the show next week. Chris Miller and now
53:49
Mac Warner. Mac Warner has dominated the news cycle for pretty much ever since
53:55
since Thursday, as far as the governor rates goes. So you know,
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there you go, all right, Hollywood. Jeffetty is my producer. Thank
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you so much to all of our guests on the show today. I will
54:08
be coming up on talk Line with Dave Wilson at ten thirty this morning.
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Follow the news of the day wv Metronews dot com at WCHS network dot com.
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here and delegate State Democratic Party chair Mike Pushkin will be on the show tomorrow.
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