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5-11-26 Hour 1 - Avs fall flat in Game 3/Nuggets End of the Season presser/How will the Avs respond? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: What is your biggest concern with the Avs right now?
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  Speaker 2: And you can't say injuries?
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  Speaker 3: Complacency? Yeah, just.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not, but you're making me come up with something. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's what. Yeah, I'm forcing an answer and you can't
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  Speaker 2: say injuries. This concern for the Avs right now is
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  Speaker 2: blank overconfidence.
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  Speaker 4: Several days later, Game three goes to Minnesota. You know
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  Speaker 4: the pushback would be there, but the Wild push Tallard
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  Speaker 4: and the Avalanche didn't have an answer. So the series
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  Speaker 4: lead is cut in half. It's now two to one Colorado.
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  Speaker 4: Final score from Saint Paul Wild five Avalanche one.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny. Saturday felt like a familiar story where you
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  Speaker 2: played against a team that resides in Minnesota and you
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  Speaker 2: didn't match the intensity and physicality of a game. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I left that game not feeling like I did after
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  Speaker 2: some Nuggets ones. You know, the whole thought towards this
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  Speaker 2: is the Avs are going to lose at some point
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  Speaker 2: during this postseason. It's going to happen. It's probably going
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  Speaker 2: to happen against one of, if not the best team
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  Speaker 2: that you're gonna face the entire run, and that is Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: It's disappointing that that game just felt like there was
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  Speaker 2: never an equal sort of intensity between the two. You
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  Speaker 2: faced a desperate, talented team and that showed on the ice.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe that serves as a wake up call for
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  Speaker 2: tonight's game. Most what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I think it absolutely will you can you guys see
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  Speaker 3: me by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, turn your camera sideways so it's not vertical.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm on the phone here because my computer
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  Speaker 3: is acting up and I don't know what the problem is.
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  Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is is that you faced
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  Speaker 3: a very good team. I mean, they were the Minnesota
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  Speaker 3: I've been telling you guys this for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: They're a good club. And boys, if I've said it once,
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  Speaker 3: I've said it a thousand times. You cannot manufacture desperation
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  Speaker 3: and emotion. You have to feel it. You have to
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  Speaker 3: live it. You cannot just I feel desperate. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to You've got to really want it. And
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota certainly did the other night.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they took advantage of the long break. They took
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  Speaker 5: advantage of the home crowd.
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  Speaker 3: It was wild. It was loud.
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  Speaker 6: I mean you were there, how loud was it? How crazy?
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  Speaker 3: He was pretty loud, pretty loud YEP.
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  Speaker 5: So now the I simply have to answer, And the
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  Speaker 5: answer is, you know what they're gonna bring. I don't
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  Speaker 5: don't think they'll be nearly as desperate as they were
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  Speaker 5: in Game three, but they will show desperation again. The
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  Speaker 5: question for the Avs is who starts in goal. I
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  Speaker 5: think you're gonna go back to Wedgwood. I think that
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  Speaker 5: that's what you do.
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  Speaker 3: Scott Wedgwood was not yanked out of the game on
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  Speaker 3: Saturday because he played poorly. He was pulled because coach
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  Speaker 3: Bennar simply wanted to try and get some spark going
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  Speaker 3: for his club. You know, get something, get something changed up.
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  Speaker 3: You know. It wasn't because that he's like, ah, Weggie, man,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have it tonight. It wasn't like that, even
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  Speaker 3: though he'd given up three that though, I mean, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he tried to change the momentum of the whole team
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  Speaker 3: when you make that particular move. So I would think
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  Speaker 3: you'd go back to Wedgwood tonight. Although I thought Blackwood
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  Speaker 3: played just fine. The only goal he gave up came
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  Speaker 3: off the pants of Brock Faber hit him in the pants,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the leg and then went into the dang net. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I gotta talk about that because the one
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  Speaker 5: thing that the Avs, uh, they've struggled with a bit
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  Speaker 5: in this series is scoring and then giving up a
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  Speaker 5: follow up score just seconds later. I mean, they scored
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  Speaker 5: a cut it to three to one, twenty seconds later
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  Speaker 5: it's four to one. It's like we saw it in
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  Speaker 5: game one, we saw it in Game two, the just
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  Speaker 5: a quick answer goal by Minnesota. Yeah, and I'm not
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  Speaker 5: sure why that's happening. It's just lost focus.
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  Speaker 3: What is that? I guess it probably is, VIC. I
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  Speaker 3: mean I think that's you know, you have a big
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  Speaker 3: dunk at one in all of a sudden, they you know,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta transition, you know, breakaway dunk. At the other end.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, hey, why anybody get back on defense? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: because we were admiring the dunk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's you're right about that, Vic. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: happened a bunch of times, and every game it's happened,
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  Speaker 2: and then you go up one nothing in Game two,
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  Speaker 2: caprisoff scores like six seconds later and then you get
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  Speaker 2: a three to one. Now it's four to one. You're right,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this. You know what's funny is that that
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  Speaker 2: game ends and Bednar is sort of asked about just
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  Speaker 2: from a mentality standpoint, what we've said forever matching the
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  Speaker 2: intensity of the game. And that's the big problem that
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  Speaker 2: we had when the Nuggets played the Timberwolves is they
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  Speaker 2: didn't seem to do that, even when they are called
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  Speaker 2: out by name. And then it became a different conversation
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  Speaker 2: of well, how much of that is on the coach
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  Speaker 2: to get his guys motivated? And we had this big
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  Speaker 2: argument with a lot of people who listen to the
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  Speaker 2: show saying, that's not Adelman needing to motivate his guys. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Ben Nors, that's the same thing. Listen to this response
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  Speaker 2: about motivation from the coach.
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  Speaker 3: I don't coach that.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I can't give It's not something we're coaching,
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's it's something that we now we've felt, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: we saw where the level of that game went to
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  Speaker 7: with their team, and now we have to respond and
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  Speaker 7: answer kind it's it's it's like what am I going
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  Speaker 7: to walk in and say, we've got to be more
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  Speaker 7: determined and compete harder. Like it's they'll hear it, and
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  Speaker 7: they'll see it. They're gonna see the video, and the
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  Speaker 7: video doesn't lie right, But it's it's something that comes
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  Speaker 7: from within. It's it's not my job to sort of
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  Speaker 7: coach that out of them. I'll do what I have
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  Speaker 7: to do when we enter the next game and as
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  Speaker 7: far as deployment, but like, we got to look within
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  Speaker 7: a little bit here and get ready to go for
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  Speaker 7: a big hockey game.
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  Speaker 5: Man, I've said that so many times on this show,
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  Speaker 5: and so many times people remark that, well, now that's
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  Speaker 5: not true. A coach is a coach can only yell
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  Speaker 5: so much. I'm in the huddle on a lot of
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  Speaker 5: those Nuggets games most And what do you think the
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  Speaker 5: eighteen assistant coaches are.
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  Speaker 3: Doing during the puddle?
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  Speaker 6: What do you think there's.
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  Speaker 3: Come dudes, let's you know, let's get back on defense.
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  Speaker 5: We can do you know, exactly what do you think
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  Speaker 5: is being said in the halftime locker room? What do
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  Speaker 5: you think is guys, gals, listen to me, Listen to me.
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  Speaker 5: When you're at the professional level of sports.
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  Speaker 3: If you need to.
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  Speaker 5: Rely on your coach to get you motivated, your toast,
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  Speaker 5: you're done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Now, on occasion, the coach can whip up a great
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  Speaker 5: speech and it can really appeal to a certain player,
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  Speaker 5: but the team as a whole. If you can't find
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  Speaker 5: that within yourself, that's on you.
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  Speaker 2: He said it like, that's an internal thing that's as
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  Speaker 2: a competitor, that comes from within that that doesn't come
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  Speaker 2: from somebody saying that to you.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: What I really like about that is he goes, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna watch the tape and they're gonna see it. And
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  Speaker 2: I know they felt it in the middle of the game too. Mos.
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  Speaker 2: It was just you were always a step behind in
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  Speaker 2: whatever we're talking about here, whether it's intensity, defensive effort,
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  Speaker 2: offensive effort, whatever it was, you were a step behind
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  Speaker 2: the whole game. And I'm not freaking because it's the
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  Speaker 2: seventh game of the playoffs. It's the first time it's
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  Speaker 2: really felt that way. And sometimes you just need to
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  Speaker 2: smack in the teeth of like, hey, this is not
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  Speaker 2: going to be easy. You're playing against a good team.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to compete, and I think this could
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  Speaker 2: serve us something good for him.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I think you're totally right, Kater. Sorry, I'm getting
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  Speaker 3: this taking care okay, Oh hold on a second there,
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  Speaker 3: what are you doing? Oh you get off of there? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: leave there? Very good.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we got it.
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  Speaker 5: We now have play from all of his issues.
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  Speaker 6: Can you just talk.
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  Speaker 3: That. That's That's what I'm doing, Beck, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to take care of some business here.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I can't motivate you to get your camera working properly. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and that has to.
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  Speaker 3: Come from it then is it working properly or no?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you're good, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is is that these guys
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  Speaker 3: have to have Yeah, it's all internal with these players.
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  Speaker 3: This is I mean, let me go back. Guys, if
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  Speaker 3: the closer I got to the drop of that pucking
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  Speaker 3: Game three, I knew exactly what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you could have had anything
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  Speaker 3: more predictable in life than what we saw on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'd like to have seen them fight back
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  Speaker 3: harder later and blah blah blah blah blah, but they
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  Speaker 3: just didn't have it. They were you know, what was
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  Speaker 3: that guy? Flat Stanley is that who It was Lau
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  Speaker 3: telling me you're about that age, right, flat Stanley. They
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  Speaker 3: had that car, that cardboard cutout dude, and they flat
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  Speaker 3: Stanley all over the place, right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, what about him?
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  Speaker 3: He's a good dude. Well they were flat Stanley the
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  Speaker 3: other night. They were just a flat hockey club. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they were flat and they got beat by
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  Speaker 3: a good hockey club. You know, I'm thinking about this too, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Come on now, would rather be the Abs or Minnesota?
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  Speaker 3: Oh boy? If they lose game two on over man,
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  Speaker 3: they were down two and they'd gotten fourteen goals scored
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  Speaker 3: against them, talking about Minnesota, you know, I mean it's like,
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  Speaker 3: hey man, it's the way it goes sometimes. Okay, now
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna respond in a big time way coming up
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  Speaker 3: tonight the Abs are, Yeah, I mean this is this
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  Speaker 3: is this is playoff. This is playoff hockey. I talked
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  Speaker 3: to you, do we have any gable anascock from the
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  Speaker 3: post game at all? Because I talked to in the
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  Speaker 3: post game and they said, isn't this how it goes?
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  Speaker 3: He goes it was gonna be this way, and anybody
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  Speaker 3: who didn't think he was gonna be this way, he
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  Speaker 3: is lying to themselves or kidding themselves. These guys know
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  Speaker 3: they've been through it a million times. Came.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's the very reason we had to stop Powder
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  Speaker 5: from talking about the Western Conference Finals as he did
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  Speaker 5: on Friday, in which opponent he wanted to play. Remember that?
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  Speaker 5: Remember that conversation we had.
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  Speaker 3: Motion, Yeah, and we had this conversation.
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  Speaker 5: We had to sort of tap him down a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Calm down.
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  Speaker 5: Remember that.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember that conversation, Brett?
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  Speaker 2: He just got some I remember, I remember this thing
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  Speaker 2: you made up in your head.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember, Yeah, I remember the conversation and Friday's
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  Speaker 5: show about how you already looking forward to who he'd
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  Speaker 5: rather play in the next round. And we were like,
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  Speaker 5: calm down, calm down. They got a game to play,
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  Speaker 5: another game on Saturday, and it could go.
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  Speaker 3: It could go Bunkers.
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  Speaker 5: And here are the desperation stats, Motion, here are the
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  Speaker 5: desperations said one or a couple of these stats need
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  Speaker 5: to change if the Avs want to come home three
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  Speaker 5: to one tonight Hits thirty nine twenty five Minnesota. That
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  Speaker 5: smacks of desperation. Correct, That's what happens when you're a
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  Speaker 5: desperate team.
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  Speaker 6: Blocked shots you're.
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  Speaker 5: Gonna stand in front of everything. Fifteen to eight Minnesota, takeaways,
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  Speaker 5: seven to three Minnesota. Those are the desperation stats that
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  Speaker 5: they won. And it starts with hits. They just got
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  Speaker 5: more physical.
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  Speaker 2: You saw that from the very beginning, Like Minnesota was hitting,
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  Speaker 2: you weren't. You had guys with the puck on the
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  Speaker 2: end boards and they weren't getting put through it like
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  Speaker 2: they did in game one and game two in Mo.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because you mentioned Minnesota, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: after Game two, said their entire strategy was just they
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  Speaker 2: wanted Atazon. It was just dump, dump the puck and
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  Speaker 2: go chase, dump and chase, dump and chase. The Avs
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  Speaker 2: did that in game three. They they really didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of offensive sets. It was get the puck
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  Speaker 2: in try and go chase it and that there was.
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  Speaker 3: There was zero Yeah, there was zero transition game really
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  Speaker 3: right in game three, I mean they look, Minnesota did
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  Speaker 3: a great job. They clugged things up. They were they
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  Speaker 3: were disciplined, and you really had no you had no
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  Speaker 3: offensive flow. There was just no flow whatsoever. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there was nothing. I don't know what else you want
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  Speaker 3: me to say, but there was there was none of
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  Speaker 3: that was involved in Game three. I guarantee you it
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  Speaker 3: will be in Game four. It's just the way playoff
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  Speaker 3: hockey goes.
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  Speaker 5: The Felino brothers had fifteen hits combined. Those guys set
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  Speaker 5: the tone, I'll.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you, totally totally predictable. I said that that's what
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna start out with, the Filino brothers leading away,
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  Speaker 3: and you're not gonna they're not gonna let up from
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  Speaker 3: there at all. Firely predictable.
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  Speaker 2: They have one job. Their job is to go out
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  Speaker 2: and hit people. It's all that. That's all they need
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  Speaker 2: to do. Now. To your point, though, Vic, you saw
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  Speaker 2: it at the very beginning of the game, early first period,
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  Speaker 2: they were being out hit. I think I had was
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  Speaker 2: it twenty to nine at one point in the second period,
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  Speaker 2: I think I had it written down somewhere, but it
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  Speaker 2: was twenty. Yeah, getting out hit twenty to nine midway
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  Speaker 2: through the second period, and you're like, Okay, this is
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  Speaker 2: a prime example of the desperation of Minnesota. But it's
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  Speaker 2: also like, I don't want to let the Avs off
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  Speaker 2: the hook. Just because the other team's desperate doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: that you go out there and you have nine hits
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  Speaker 2: through you know, twenty thirty minutes, you got to be
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  Speaker 2: able to give that right back. They didn't match the
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  Speaker 2: tone of that game, and that's that's a problem that
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  Speaker 2: the Avs had. But still, when you're talking about playing
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  Speaker 2: what could be if you continue to win, whether you
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  Speaker 2: lose this series or you go to the Stanley Cup Final,
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  Speaker 2: this is one, if not the most talented team you're
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  Speaker 2: going to face on the way there. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: be able to get you occasionally. That's what this is.
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  Speaker 6: At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 5: If the Avs win that game, the series is for
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  Speaker 5: all accounts over. They know it.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody knew it. That was desperation.
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  Speaker 5: Tonight you will see desperation, but not nearly as much.
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  Speaker 5: That's just human nature.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, your BIG's totally right there and there will be
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  Speaker 3: pushed back by the avalanche tonight. Now, this ought to
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  Speaker 3: be This ought to be a hell of a hockey
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  Speaker 3: game tonight. Tell you that much.
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  Speaker 2: Once at six o'clock right here on ninety two five,
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  Speaker 2: as we broadcast from the Backiston Shanker Studios, serious lawyers
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  Speaker 2: for the seriously injured a lot more to talk about
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  Speaker 2: with this, not only Game three, but heading into Game four.
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  Speaker 2: As we go along the end of the season press
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  Speaker 2: conference from the Nuggets on Friday, do you want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about that? And something in particular the Kronky said
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  Speaker 2: that I think shines a light on the need for change.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to it next.
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  Speaker 8: When I say running it back, I mean you're talking
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  Speaker 8: about a lot of different variations of what running it
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  Speaker 8: back could look like. Is it going to be the
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  Speaker 8: exact same team. I don't think there's ever the exact
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  Speaker 8: same team of the same thirteen to sixteen guys in there.
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  Speaker 8: But are you talking about the same core group of
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  Speaker 8: players potentially? And that could mean resigning and bringing back
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  Speaker 8: certain guys as well.
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  Speaker 2: And it is Josh Stronky on Friday addressing what the
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  Speaker 2: off season could be. Now. I want to get to
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  Speaker 2: that part of it in a second. And I understand
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  Speaker 2: the sentiment like running it back has to be on
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  Speaker 2: the table, and I think that all surrounds this idea that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: if we want to move guys but we don't get
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  Speaker 2: the proper return, I'm not doing it just to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But he said something else vic that I think is
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  Speaker 2: really interesting, and it was lessons from the past three seasons,
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  Speaker 2: and he said this, there's.
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  Speaker 8: A lot of different lessons. I think that complacency could
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  Speaker 8: be one of those things. When you win something, are
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  Speaker 8: you as hungry to achieve it as you were before. Continuity,
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  Speaker 8: I think, is a very powerful thing. But change is
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  Speaker 8: also a powerful thing as well at times, and human
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  Speaker 8: nature around certain things involving injuries, motivation, personal moments that
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  Speaker 8: can affect people for numerous years. Professionally, sustaining something is
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  Speaker 8: very difficult. I think that anybody that hasn't gone through
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  Speaker 8: it may not understand how difficult that might be. I
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  Speaker 8: understand it from multiple angles. I'm blessed to have been
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  Speaker 8: a part of a championship team here with the Nuggets
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  Speaker 8: championship team, with the Avalanche championship team, with the La Rams,
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  Speaker 8: and we're fighting for championships over at Arsenal right now.
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  Speaker 8: So I know what it takes to get there, and
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: I know how difficult it is to sustain that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: So I want to say one thing about that. First
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: of all, continuity totally get it. When you're changing things up,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: you're trying to mash things together, build chemistry on the fly.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: That can be difficult. Human nature, certainly with injuries and
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. Very difficult. The one problem that I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: have is if anybody from that championship team is complacent
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: right now, I have an issue. This isn't a year
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: a move from a title. It's three years from and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: if you're still happy and you know, sort of basking
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: in the aura of a championship win from twenty twenty three,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I don't want that guy here anymore. Whoever we're discussing,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I don't want that person here.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: A lot of things to break down, but I'm gonna
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: start writing right here. I think human nature and complacency
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: are the same thing. So of those three points that
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Josh made, I think those two things are the same.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: People both like injuries and stuff into the human nature part.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I guess so.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: But motivation is also part of human nation and complacency.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: And you know, you start to wonder, who is he
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: talking about? Yeah, who is he referring to?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly what I thought?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Which of the players, Because it's not the coaches. He
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: already told the coaches they're fine, they did a great job.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: He already said that, it's not the front office. Which
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: of the players is he referring to when he points
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: to human nature and complacency? I have some ideas you
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: might as well. Now let me start by saying this mode.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: As we all know, you've been around this long enough.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: If you think that these guys are gonna sit up
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: there and say we're gonna trade this guy, this guy,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: and this guy, it's not the way this works. You
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: cannot announce who you're going to trade at these press
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: conferences because you lose leverage the moment that comes out
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: of your mouth.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: You're not doing that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And if a trade doesn't happen exactly, you gotta look
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: that guy in the face.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: You're not doing that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: You're not going to say And I know a lot
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: of fans wanted to hear that. I know a lot
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: of fans wanted to hear all right, who they You're
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: never going to hear publicly who they're going to trade. Privately,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I guarantee they're making calls.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: On all of them.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: But if if I have anybody on this roster and
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: there's only a few that are here from the championship
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: team that are complacent with a win from three years ago,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that guy should not be here anymore. I don't like
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at NAVS team filled with Gabe Landiskag and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon and Cant mccarr and Devontave's and a whole
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: bunch of guys that won a title four years ago.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: They don't look complacent at all.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: Let's put it on the table. Who do you think
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: he's talking about.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, here's your options. It's Jamal Joker, ag CB
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and who else is that? It the championship team, Peyton
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Watson and p Watt. Now I don't think he's p
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Wat because Peawatt has motivation to first of all, get paid.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Second of all, he didn't really play on that team.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: If I had to guess, I'm assuming it's Jamal. But
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: at the same time, Jamal had the best regular season
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of his career, Like he came out pretty motivated. This
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: year just didn't happen in the postseason. But if there's
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: anybody that thinks, hey, from three years ago, I got
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: my title, I'm good, then that guy can walk. I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: don't need that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I'll add this, you know, in respect to Aaron Gordon,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: when he was asked about Aaron, he said they're gonna
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: have some hard conversations. What do you think he meant
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: by that trading him? I think the hard conversations also
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: dealt with stain in shape to the point where your
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: body doesn't react the way it has.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Well, Vic, I think you need to get down to
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the root problem then, I mean, is it is it
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: him not being in shape or is his body just
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: repeatedly letting him down? Does he have too much where
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: on the tires that I don't know? Man? That answer
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I can only be ascertained by him and the organization
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I suppose. I don't. I don't know the answer to
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: that question. But here's what I do know. It's a problem.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: It is a problem that you cannot live with if
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you want to win title.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Here, let me play the age one real quick.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: Ken, what do you say to.
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: Fans who see the course that say, you know, you
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: might consider trading a guy named mister Nugget while at
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: the exact same time you brought back a coach who
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: fans routed the floor home playoff.
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: I assume you're referring to Aaron Gordon. Yes, okay, I
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: don't really deal with nicknames. I deal with regular names.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: I apologize anybody thinking that doesn't know the rhythm of
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: what goes along inside these walls at times. I have
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: full faith in coach Adalman I think he had. He
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: coached a hell of a season, all things considered. I
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: think anybody's saying something like that is speaking from a
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: place of emotion. I would say that my job in
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: this in this organization is to help make decisions without emotion.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: And so I love Aaron Gordon, and I know that
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: I think the world of him, just like the entire
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: Nuggets nation does. But there are some things that we're
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: going to have to look at. This team looks a
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: lot different when Aaron Gordon's healthy. I think everybody can
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: acknowledge that. And so we need a healthy Aaron Gordon,
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: and so we need to help figure out how to
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: make the most of him and get the most out
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: of his body for the benefit of the team, that's
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: for sure.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: All right, Scott right there, Do you remember this similar
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: conversation had the year before about Jamal Murray? There are
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: some things we're going to have to look at in
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: the off season.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, with Jamal Murray.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Do you remember that conversation?
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: Yep?
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: Okay, And so it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Came in, he came he responded well because he came
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: into his best shape.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Great shape, and he survived the entire season really in
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: that shape.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: So I think he says it right there.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: If you read between the lines, some things are gonna
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: have to look at because here's the bottom line, guys, listen.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Ag is one of my favorite human beings of all time,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: salt of the earth. I think we can all agree there.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: But let me let you in on a little secret, everybody,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: If Aaron Gordon is not available next season, or the
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: season after, or any season he plays for the Nuggets,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: the Denver Nuggets are not going to win the championship
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: or go where you want him to go. That's the
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: bottom line.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Well, and the goal can't be just to stay healthy.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I Nelly pointed this out to me, but it is crazy.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I heard someone after his team got swept in the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: second round brutally, Joel Embiid went to the press conference
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: after Game four where they got swept by the Knicks
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and they lost what vic every game by thirty points
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Like that was terrible. They got roughed up.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Listen to what he said after.
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: I know we lost, you know, and I know that's
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: not environmental idea to have, but you know, for me,
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: this was a success. I came into this year not
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: knowing where I was gonna be you know, our law
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: was going to play, if I was even gonna play,
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: based on how the knee was the last, you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: the last few years. And you know, I came in,
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: you know, hoping for the best, and I feel like
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: we're in a position where we figured out the knee
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: hasn't been an issue.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: So he said this season's success because basically I could play,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and I get it from a personal standpoint for him,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's the way he thinks. I can't. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: don't want to sound the same when it comes to
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: ag because Aaron Gordon is somebody that is universally adored
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: by everybody who roots for the Nuggets. He is a huge,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: huge catalyst. Do you playing successful winning basketball? But as
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I said in the in the playoffs, the goal can't
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: to hope Aaron Gordon gets through the game. The goal
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: has to be that he needs to play well. And
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I think over the last two playoff runs, the goal
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: has been, hey, he's got a Grade two hamstring strain.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Can he just make it through the game. And it's like,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that's not helping you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: You know, I look at that and I and I
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: wonder too, because the Knicks lost their version of Aaron
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Gordon to a hamstring injury, and they're just they didn't
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: skip a beat against Philadelphia. Now Philly's a little different
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: than playing Minnesota, right, a little different, but it didn't
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: bother them one bit. So I think the Nuggets also
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: have to be able to adapt because it's going to
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: happen eventually.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: You're going to have to miss some games.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Eventually. You have to be willing.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: You can't just you can't just say we don't have him,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: we're done. You just can't so, and that therein lies
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: the problem. One thing we learned listening to those comments.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Most you cannot it's try trading. You can't trade him
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: because of everything we've just talked about.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: That is correct, You're one hundred percent correct. So unless
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: things change with his body, you are really between a
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: rock and a hard place because you can't move the contract.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: But you desperately need somebody at the four that can
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: stay in the lineup and play consistently. And if it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: not AG, it's gotta be somebody else, but I preferably
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: it would be a healthy AG. So they're gonna have
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: to figure this out. I mean they're going to have
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: to that you just you just cannot It can't be
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: half the games in a regular season and then less
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: than half the games in the playoffs where he plays,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: and you're you're you're going into every single game, every
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: single series, not knowing what the heck you're supposed to
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: do with it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Here's the second thing that emerged from that press conference
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: for me that I really honed in on.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Later on in that press conference, David Adelman talked about
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: needs and what he saw, and he mentioned how they
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: gotta have better ball handling, especially against pressure. They couldn't
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: handle the ball against pressure, they couldn't bring it up.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you have that sound bite readily available,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: but I want you to hear it because it's going
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: to lead to two major questions for me. Do you
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: have that, Brent, Yeah, we'll find it in a second, Okay,
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: he'll dig it up. Two major questions for me when
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: a coach talks about ball handling, how do you add
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: ball handling to your lineup and remain a big enough
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: lineup not to be taken advantage of right because other
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: people bring the ball up. Adalman said, you know that
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: one of Aaron Gordon's job. Yeah, Aaron Gordon did a
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: great job. Every time he's in the game. He brings
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: the ball up at times, right, So you need a
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: big So who do you take away from the lineup
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: to give Jamal Murray the necessary breath so he doesn't
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: have to bring the ball up every time?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I thought about this in the Minnesota series when
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Jamal is getting full court pressure from Jade McDaniels and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: he's really good at it, and it makes it really difficult.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just let Because I saw it over
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and over again, Joker was not being guarded by Gobert
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: until he crossed half court.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: It's harder to get into the offense when you do
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: it that way. I know what you're saying, but you
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: want to have you want to have Joker receive the
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: ball to get into your and it's a different kind
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: of offense when he's bringing it up. Listen, he found
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: the sound bite. But just listen to this and tell
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: me what you think when you hear the head coach
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: talk about the personnel and what needs to change.
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you know, we talked about the teams.
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: Somebody brought it up who we lost to in the
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: last three years, And I do think that you know
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: what stood out was ball handling, handling, pressure, those things.
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: I know I already brought it up, but I'm just
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: trying to be straight up with you. You know that
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: really hurt us, and I thought, you know, athleticism is
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: part of the league. You know, the league is younger,
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: the league chain fast watching. Okay, see last night San Antonio.
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: You know the way they play. But I also think
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: just a little bit more of that get puts you
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: in a series to win. And I do think that
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: the ball handling we didn't have when the Minnesota series
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: did hurt. You know, they're missing people, We're missing people.
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: Somebody brought it ups, you know, soft tissue stuffs all
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: over the NBA, Tatum misses Game seven, There's so many
• 28:25
  Speaker 11: things happening. But yeah, you have to look in the
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: mirror and say, why did we struggle with these types
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: of teams?
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: What is that when it comes to a traditional ball
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: handler in the NBA gone other days where you've got
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: to have just one point guard and everybody else, everybody's
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: got to be able to handle the ball.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: You have to because of the pressure.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: So if you're.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Gonna turn Jamal Murray into a two guard, right if
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: if you're gonna give him some time off. Who's going
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: to handle the ball on your starting five? Aaron Gordon
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: wasn't available, He couldn't do it. Who's going to do it?
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they have an option right now.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's funny we mentioned this during
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the series. When did the Nuggets offense look their best?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Ironically when Tias Jones highest?
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the problem the problem with bringing in a traditional
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: point guard and playing him alongside Jamal. I love the
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: idea of more ball handling, but if you move Jamal
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Murray to the two guard and you're bringing a smaller
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: point guard.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: You're tiny.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're tiny, You're too small.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Can't I don't think you can do that either.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: So the only fix is to have a secondary person
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: in there who's bigger, who can still bring the ball up.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Aaron Gordon did it?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Sure, Pexter says, is anyone going to analyze Joker his
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: performance this postseason, his goals, his desire to win another title?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd say this Joker was not good. He
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: was not his normal self in that playoff series. It's
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: also like the first time that's really ever happened. And
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I think if you're looking at Joker as the reason
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: why you didn't get X, Y, and Z, you're probably
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: looking in the wrong places.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're Yeah, if it becomes a habit, if
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: it becomes an ongoing issue, an ongoing problem, that's one thing.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: But it's really the first time we've seen him where
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: he's just not himself, right, He's just not the guy
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: that you expect. It's the first time I've seen him
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: where he consistently misses shots that he typically makesh And again,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I just think it's all encompassing. I think it's fatigue.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's lack of cohesion. I just think it's
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: all of that. And I think that he probably gets
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: frustrated too by saying, damn, you know, they know they're
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: not going to win. They know, they know they don't
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: have quote it. They know you can't fool players, man,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: You can't. You can't fool them. You can't do it.
• 30:57
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• 30:59
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  Speaker 12: He said this, so I wouldn't say anything to you
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: in a press conference that I'm not going to our
• 32:57
  Speaker 12: Heaven's already said to her team. I only have one
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• 33:02
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• 33:05
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• 33:07
  Speaker 7: Whether you like it or not.
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: You might not like what I say or even how
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: I say it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: I'll say it as respectfully as I can, but I'm
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: going to do the work and the breakdown and the
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: preparation to give you the message that I think is correct,
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: and then you then what they do with it after
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: that is up to them.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: That is another example when he was asked, you know
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: about motivation for players. He goes, that's not on me.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be the one that kicks you
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: in gear for a game. That's got to be something
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: that comes from wrong with it, dude.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: In today's professional sports, I mean there's there's probably a
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: little bit of that that goes on team wise. Hey guys,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: you know we can do this, then you know a
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: little bit of that. But man, for the price, for
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: the price of t you've got to you've got to
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: be self motivated. You know, you don't as a pro coach.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: You don't have time to bumblebee around the room and
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: give everybody a boot and the tail all the time.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: You no, don't, you don't. It's it's it's it's kind
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: of productive gifts. Vic.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry when when Minnesota, the Minnesota Timberwolves went down
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: one nothing, who motivated them?
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Jade McDaniels, Yeah, came from inside the locker room, right,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: and it was echoed by the coach.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: But it came from.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Inside the locker room.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: It always comes from inside the locker room.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know what else to say. And I have
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: this argument with people all the time, and I understand
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: you can criticize coaches for how they play, players who
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: they play, their schemes, their strategies.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I get all of that.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: But if you're gonna start getting on coaches because a
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: player doesn't play hard or a team doesn't play hard,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: that's on them.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I go ahead, motion, Well, look.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I just want to put things in perspective a little bit.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Do you know how hard it is to keep winning
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: game after game after game after game. It's not an
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: easy thing to do when you're playing other talented teams,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: and they also have very good players on their team,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: and they are playoff teams as well. You know what
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I mean. I mean, you'd won six straight postseason games
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: going into game number three, and you were flat, no
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: doubt about it. You were flat. And by the way,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you'd won the last three games of the regular season,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: so you'd won nine straight hockey games going into game three.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: You were flat. Okay, fix it, Okay, This team, these
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: players led by Gabe Landeskog and Nathan McKinnon. Are you
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: kidding me? You think there's any think there's any lack
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: of motivation. There There ain't lack of motivation. You will
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: see that on display tonight, and you're so right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Harveman here on the twitch feed says, so wait to
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: coach has no responsibility if a team quits. Huh, It's
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: now what I said, coach, there's always bay responsibility. But
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: the motivation starts with the players. And a guy like
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Gabriel Landiscott. Do you think he's gonna have something to
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: say to his teammates tonight before this game?
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Damn righty is yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: That's the point of having a leader like that, By
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: the way, is he is the It comes from a
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: different place. Again, if you guys have played organized sports
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: up to a competitive level, the motivation resides within the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: players and specifically your team. Later, that's his responsibility. That's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: why wearing a sea on your chest in hockey is
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: so important. Is you are the guy in charge when
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: things aren't going well. You are the driving force in
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: making a change. It doesn't come from the coach. It's
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: different when it comes from one of your peers.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Eleven sixty makes a good point. People have watched too
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: many movies with the coach's big locker room speech thinking
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: that's the thing. I mean, this isn't hoosiers.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: It's not miracle, it's not miracles.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Not miracle it's not.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Hoosiers evan name name, great locker speech movies.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go out there and kick them in the case. Dad,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna do.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I got it. Hey, we play them ten times, they
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: may win nine, but not tonight. Tonight is your night.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Yea in New York trying to be hurt. I don't know.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: You want to bet Connor and I yesterday morning said
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: let's go out for a little walk around Old Saint Paul.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Went to the Saint Paul Saints Paul Park. They're out
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: of town, they're in Vegas. Okay, fine, whatever, But ran
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: into a big flower fair, you know, like farmers market.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Typing great. Talking to some Minnesota people. The northern the Minnesota.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Accent, it's an odd one.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: God, God bless everybody. Okay, I'm gonna say it. From
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: North Dakota to Wisconsin and the Upers, all the the
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Upper Peninsula Michigans. It's gotta be the worst accent ever.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: It has to be it. I mean, we were talking
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: about it. I would take a loud New Jersey uh
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: soccer mom accent over over you know what I mean.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: It's just it's a very interesting. Oh yeah, don't you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, they're okay, you know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: It's just it's it's I'm gonna start reading it's interesting
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: tweets that I get from Minnesota fans in that accent.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: Just sort of take the edge of it a little bit.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Please and I'll video you anyway. The point is they
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: love the F word. They use it freely up there. Well, okay, okay,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: did you tell did you did you watch games game
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: six Nuggets?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Did you hear what the fans were saying during the game?
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes I did. Vic. I'm very familiar with what
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: they're what they're saying. But you tell Baby, you tell
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: baby Jamal killed them to you know, honey, put your
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: toys away, right, that kind of thing. How many times
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: you have to tell her? Sometimes too many?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, I actually say all the time. I'm like, stop
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: making me ask for this multiple times.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Do it. If you're a professional coach and you've got
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: to baby sit and keep asking the players to put
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: away their toys time and time and time again, it's
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: just it's not going to work.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: No, Like, I like this, I want tex, She says.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: What if they all sounded like macho man Randy Savage,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: that would be better.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Here's what we're talking about.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: I mean again, listen, it's it's completely fair to be.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Critical of coaches when they make the wrong moves, all right,
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: because everybody's got to push the button, and that's what
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: a coach does. So I want to ask you, guys,
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: here's a text from five to six, seven eight. So
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: what adjustments did bednar making Game three besides the goalie change.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: It's not a question.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I don't remember anything significant strategy or tactics. Well, he
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: switched up changed up his top line. I mean what,
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: you switched it up your lines? Yeah, you switched up
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: your lines to a team that changes.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Changes goalie changes goalie what? I'm sure? What else?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: He played McKennon and mccarr more minutes than they played
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the entire postseason in that game to try and get
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: a burst. I mean, what else?
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: What else do you need to see scheme? I'm just curious.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not saying he's devoid of any criticism.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: But you you claim that there was nothing done, and
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: we just gave you three things that he did.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, how about that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Bednark could Bednark could have changed his team out for
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: the eighty two Islanders and it wouldn't have made a
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: difference in that game. It just wouldn't have them.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Sorry, listen to the captain of the team.
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: They came out hard as we expected there in the
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: first period period here in their building. And first period,
• 40:29
  Speaker 13: I thought they got some timely goals obviously four on
• 40:31
  Speaker 13: four and we kind of a defensive breakdown on and
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: then four and three that they make a nice shot
• 40:37
  Speaker 13: on with a good screens. So I think they came
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: out a lot better for sure than we did in
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: the first and then as we pushed back in the second,
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: obviously they get we make it a a three to
• 40:48
  Speaker 13: one game there and then they make it four one
• 40:49
  Speaker 13: right away. So sometimely goals and uh, they were a
• 40:53
  Speaker 13: lot better tonight, I think than the other night, and
• 40:54
  Speaker 13: we were. We were not quite as sharp as we
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: need to be, but that's why it's gonna go. We
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: expected them to come on.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: My favorite thing about hockey interviews. Every hockey interview, it's
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: as if the guy just came off the track and
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: sprinted a four hundred yards.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: Like they could never catch their breath.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I've always said this vic every hockey interview sounds like
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the little neighbor kid knocking on your door asking if
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: your son or daughter can come out to play? It's
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: always hi, Michelmbide, Can Dante?
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Can Dante come out? Can come out and play?
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Do you guys not wait allun Did you give them
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: a little time to.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Breathe or what's going on? Listen? Man, I don't do
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: this that often because I'm typically up in the booth,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: but here I am in Minnesota, so I just wait
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: until Brendan McNicholas opens the door and says, okay, have
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: about it. You know, a bunch of unwashed masses. And
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: that's what what that's what I become. And when again,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: unwashed what masses? Oh, you know the unwaked, the you
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: know the fish wrap people. Anyway, the point is that
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the point is that, yeah, I mean there he's a
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: little bit out of breath and he's sweating like a pig.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: But you know, he'll get a shower. But that's the
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: time to do it. And that was me, by the way,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: that was my microphone, right they're talking to gab you
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: all that sound yeah, buddy, Risp.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: That was Moser's microphone.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Nelly, do you have the do you have the last
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: answer though that he gave do you have the last
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: answer on that particular scrum. If you can find the
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: last answer, that's the one that I asked him about.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Isn't this the way postseason hockey goes? Well?
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Your microphone, because I only got the feed from Moser's mic,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: So if that was someone else's mic, I don't have it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: You got to make sure it's your microphone.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: You have one of those big microphones that you buy
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: for your kids at Christmas with all the buttons and
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: you could change your voice?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Is at your microphone?
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: What kind of microphone do you have?
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Their moj I'll tell you what. When I get home,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you can talk into my microphone. How's that, Nellie? Please
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: play it?
• 42:56
  Speaker 14: Gave us a good hockey club over there? Does it
• 42:58
  Speaker 14: feel like this is typical postseason hockey? Ebbs and flows
• 43:01
  Speaker 14: are going to happen?
• 43:02
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean this is what we expected. And if
• 43:05
  Speaker 13: you didn't, then I think you're a bit naive. So
• 43:09
  Speaker 13: a good team for a reason, No, big good series.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: You're a bit naive. If if you didn't expect it,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: you're a bit naive.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I think we need to go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, Well.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: You can expect it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: You can expect to see that that kind of game.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: If you're going to win that game because the other
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: team clearly showed more motivation, you got to have a
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: goalie that's going.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: To steal it for you, just outright steal it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Well, Volstad, I mean Valstad has gotten in his his
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: actions and mouth has gotten him in trouble in the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: previous series for something.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Hear him after that game.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: I was going to bring this up. I was going
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: to bring this song.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Labeled to hate her, but that's something about that dude
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: just rubs.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Me the wrong way.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Man little he's a little big for his bretches, for
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: being a guy who's played like forty games in his career.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: You know, he's got some Bennington going on.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit of that.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I uh god, I hope he
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: wouldn't Game four.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: See, I think that we need to continue. We need
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to bring Macho Man back from the dead, and he's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: got to give a motivating speech because I don't you would,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to be fair, if Macho Man Randy Savage was your coach,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: you have no choice but to be motivated.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Brett Brett voice Brent Moser's voice during that Q
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: and A with Landy. Somebody brought it up and he
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: sounds a little black mojr.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you do.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: You tried to get away sultry with it.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you tried to go sixty minutes like Moser.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: The Reporter is far different than Mosua.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: The play by play Carlovo Bark.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Listen to Mosja the Reporter played that one more time
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: and listen to his voice.
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a good hockey club over there. Does it
• 44:49
  Speaker 14: feel like this is typical postseason hockey ebbs and flows
• 44:53
  Speaker 14: so syrupy?
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: What were you doing?
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: Was you having your throat?
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I I don't know. I had just scarfed down a
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: half a half a cup of popcorn.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good hockey team over there. Yeah, you.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: Know, match of physical make me laugh.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: The creep always.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: Rises to the crop land here.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: You're making me laugh now the mouth.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you do. You just have to say something,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: inflect one word and then say yeah at the end
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: of everything. That's all he does.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they go make a sandwich ye three three five,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: O four nine two five A lot more to break
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: down this game. Stick around