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College buddies, Kicking competition, Smokescreens, and the Agonizing QB Conundrum with Guest Dustin Baker | TSH Ep. 36 · The Skol Hop

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  All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into a little bit of a
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  different episode of the school Hot But regardless of just a little bit of a
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  different format, we're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. I like drinking
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  beer talking about the Vikings' Evan by the way, and you're we typically do
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  that, but different today. That's all right, right, So I had
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  this idea, Uh, we're One of the reasons we're in different locations right
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  now is we've had some severe weather kind of ripped through our area tonight on
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  the night of recording. So we decided it would just be safer to be
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  at our own homes. And typically one of the two of us will bring
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  some beer in and we'll share the beer together, and that's typically how we've
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  run our episodes. But since we're at our own homes, I figured we
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  could do a little beer guess who So you saw me before we started recording,
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  sick on my beer a little bit, so I've already got one.
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  Oh, and I thought it would be fun to see if we could guess
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  the brewery and or just the type of beer just based on appearance. Okay,
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  So I guess we kind of talked about this a little bit, but
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  we didn't really get all the ground rules. We are still in Iowa only
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  bear podcast, right, that's correct. Yes, my beer is Brude in
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  Iowa. Okay, Okay, mine is two. And we can drop some
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  hints along the way for each other as we go. Okay, sound good.
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  We can kind of go vague and then kind of tighten it if we
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  need to. It's like that, you know, remember that kid's guessing game
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  where you had the little flippers, the Guess Who game? Yeah, it's
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  yeah, I'm pretty sure it's called Guess Who. Yeah, I think my
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  my children have played thousands of games of that. So, well, this
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  is beer guess who. All right, so here's my beer? Oh man.
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  Okay, so it looks kind of ambery, but not like a super
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  dark one. Hmmm. And I'd say you have a pretty good camera,
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  so it's probably pretty accurate. I can tell from the purple in the background
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  that the colors should be pretty accurate. All right, it's kind of clear.
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  It's got some some clearness to it, doesn't look super hazy or super
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  dark. It's an Iowa brewed beer. Yeah, I know of the brewery.
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  Yes, we you featured this brewery before on the show, actually a
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  handful of times. All right, all right, have we have we attended
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  this brewery before we have together together? Yes? Okay? Have we attended
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  this brewery frequently in times past? Yes? Okay? Okay. Is this
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  brewery within an hour and a half of our hometown a little farther away?
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  Is it within three hours of our hometown? Yes? Okay. So it's
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  a a Cedar Falls Waterloo area brewery. Correct? Correct, So we've got
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  single speed yep, okay, that's the brewery. Nice job we have.
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  You and I shared that beer before together. So this is gonna be kind
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  of tricky to identify because I'm pretty sure I'm I'm misleading you a little bit.
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  Oh No, it's a special release. So is this the Tiny Dancer?
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  It is? Yes, it is. They made that specifically for the
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  basketball tournaments this year. Yep. And I've had it a few times and
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  I like that one a lot. They made another one. I'm not sure
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  what it's called. Is it just called like the Big Dancer or something like
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  that. I don't know. My wife actually picked this one up for me.
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  She was out and about. I was at home with the kids trying
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  to just keep everybody safe from the storm, and hey, I don't care
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  what you get me, just make sure it's brude in Iowa. There you
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  go. That's tricky because I tried also to go with a beer that we
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  haven't had on the podcast too, so I didn't know if you were going
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  to go for that. So for her to still abide by, that's that's
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  pretty nice. Yeah, go Evan's wife. Yeah, and it's a good
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  beer. I can attest that you've had it. It sounds like yep.
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  So yeah, maybe we'll have to have one together sometimes, you know.
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  I'm sure we can make that happen there for sure. I don't know if
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  they're gonna have it very much longer. It was a, like you said,
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  a special release. So lif've still got a handful here. So if
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  you come over this week, if you twist my arm, I'm sure we
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  can make that happen. Might need another business meeting, Yeah, we definitely
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  need one of those. Pretty sure. I'm gonna crack my newe and I'm
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  gonna try to pour it off screen, the fresh poor, the fresh poor.
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  Together. We do still have our football glasses, that's right, yea,
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  we each have a few of those, and uh, Evan. I
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  actually talked to your dad over the weekend and he mentioned that we still need
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  to get together and laser and drave our football glasses. It's on his radar.
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  I know he's traveling quite a bit, but he said once he's kind
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  of settled down with all that. I'm glad you reminded him of that,
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  because no, he reminded me, Oh did he? Yeah, Well,
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  yeah, we'll definitely make that happen. And that's that's something that we've been
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  wanting to do for a long time. So yeah, it'll happen. Well,
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  maybe maybe a special listener might get the benefit of a giveaway or something
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  like that. Maybe maybe we'll see. Yeah, you have to really be
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  a good listener. All right, that sounded weird, Sorry, guys.
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  All right, so I'll give you the reveal. I'm gonna try to be
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  a good beer guesser here. That looks almost identical to what I have it
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  does It's a if I had to say, it's not as clear, like
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  you can't see my face right now. By the way, you can watch
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  us on YouTube and Spotify. We do put out some videos on TikTok too,
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  so interact with us there. But maybe maybe if you're watching us,
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  you can take a look at the beer. You'll you'll know what it is
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  by the time you watch it, but see if you can guess what it
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  is after the fact. So it's a little a little less clear than yours.
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  I can see that according to what I see on camera, the color
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  looks pretty accurate. So I've got some lights here they're kind of washing everything
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  out a little bit, but that looks pretty accurate. It's not too much
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  darker or lighter than what you see on camera. Okay, so I'll start
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  with some of the same questions. Then is this a brewery that you and
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  I have been to before? Yes? Yes, together and apart obviously.
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  But yes, is this a brewery within twenty minutes of our home? I
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  would say so, yes. Okay. Is it a spot that we frequent
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  for business meetings for the school hot Well, correct me if I'm wrong.
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  I think we've only ever had two locations for a business meeting. You are
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  currently at one of those locations, that's right, And the other one is
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  where this fear is from. Yes, okay, so that would be five
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  cities. Okay, I'm just I'll just start guessing beers from there. Is
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  it a Is it one of their staple beers or is it a no?
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  Probably not no, okay, hmm, let's see. Is it it's not
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  bikini Bottom? No, I'm actually not a fan of that one. I
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  know it's that is one of their staple beers and people love it, and
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  it's a good beer as far as that's concerned, But it's not one for
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  me, is it the I know you like their shwifty Hippie. I do
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  like that beer. It is not that beer. Okay, Well, now
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  I'm googling their beer list. Let's see what else can I ask about it?
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  Is it an I p A? It is an I p A?
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  Okay, it's an I p A. Is it a hazy I p A?
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  Let's see what they call it? I would say yes, yes,
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  okay, they say that as well. Currently on their menu. I believe
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  so. I might be wrong, but I believe so. Their menu is
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  I was there actually this last weekend. It's a little smaller than it typically
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  is. Is it woof it? No? It is not. I've never
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  heard of that one. It's on their menu right now. Well, there's
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  no other IPAs on their menu currently. Hm hmm. You should always have
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  some I pas on their menu. They have Shifty Hippie and they have a
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  newer one. Hang on, let's do a little more recon work here,
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  what about dumbest way possible. No, it is not that one. I
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  will say it is a relatively newer beer. Relatively newer okaymm is it the
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  Big Boy? It's the Big Boy. It's the Big There we go.
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  Man, you were a better guesser than I was. I've had that one,
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  though. Have you had the Big Boy? I haven't had the Big
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  Boy. I think we have an open invitation to try a Big Boy.
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  They did. They did respond to one of our comments one time. So
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  yeah, five Cities, we will take you up on that one time,
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  as long as you still have the Big Boy. But is that still on
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  their menu? Well, I'm just looking at their menu right now, and
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  they only have sixteen beers on the menu. Okay, draft ye, and
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  uh yeah, that's not on there right now. Interesting. Yeah, I
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  like it a lot. Has hazy India, pale ale, comes and pounded.
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  It's got a little bit of heft with the eight percent to it.
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  As with most of their beers. It is a certified good Boy. Yeah,
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  it's right up there. I think they're they're good boy. I PA
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  is probably one of my favorites. I think I realized the other day that
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  for me, it's right up there with like the Pseudo Suit in terms of
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  I think it's entering my top five. But this big Boy, it's right
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  there too. I like it a lot. If you haven't tried it,
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  you definitely should you, Evan, and also anyone listening definitely give it a
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  try if you like hazy IPAs, because this is absolutely a hazy ipa that's
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  like a that's a Friday night or a Saturday night. I PA, especially
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  at eight yep, for sure, Big big, Big, Big Boy.
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  That was fun. So Evan a little on air production meeting. I think
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  for our next episode, I want to I want to bring the beer.
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  I don't know whose turn it is, but either way, I want to
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  bring it, and I want to like wrap the cans in foil and have
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  you pour it and taste it and really give it. Do do a live
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  version of what we just did, just to see if you can guess what
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  it is. I do that. Yeah, I've seen a few people on
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  TikTok doing that kind of idea, like wrapping or having somebody else give them
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  a beer that they wrapped the can in tinfoil so you can't really tell what
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  it is, and then give a whole like spiel on, Oh this is
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  good. I'm detecting these tones and I think it's this kind of beer,
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  and then they open it and they're completely wrong and it's hilarious and they're like,
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  oh it was still really good. Well, we could do like a
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  like even like a Dude Perfect like blindfold taste tests. Oh yeah, that
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  takes some trusts there, Uh, we've lost. We've watched a lot of
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  Dude Perfect in my house lately, really into it, and they've done like
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  all the different fast food French fries. Hm, they did coffee. Oh
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  yeah, I think I did pizza one time. Yeah yeah, and cheeseburgers
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  at one point. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good segment they do.
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  So we could definitely do that with with some beer. That'd be fun.
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  Yeah, I think like flights or something. Well, have you seen the
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  videos where people will have like the camera will be facing the people and then
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  on the table there's different drinks inside of like three quarters of a cardboard box.
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  Oh, the camera can see what the drinks are and then there's straws
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  coming up through the cardboard box and people just they walk up blind and they're
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  on the other side. They can't see what it is, and they take
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  a sip from a straw and usually it's like, can you determine which one
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  is coke from pepsi? And stuff like that. You could probably do something
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  like that with beers. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, good little
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  production meeting there. Yeah, we do that. Well, we've got we've
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  got a guest coming on the show tonight. Yeah, I'm gonna have him
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  join us here in a little bit. But do you want to talk a
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  little bit about that. We've had him on before. Yeah, we've got
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  I think we can call him friend of the show. Friend of the Show,
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  Dustin Baker. This will be his what at least his third or fourth
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  time on, Yeah, I think so. I think it's his fourth.
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  I might be wrong, though. Last time we had him on, he
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  had he was joined by his friend Wes Yep And what did we talk about.
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  We talked a lot about the upcoming draft, and I imagine our conversation
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  with him will talk a lot about that as well. Yeah. I really
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  like Dustin. He seems to enjoy coming on the show. I know he
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  goes on everything. If if you can't find Dustin Baker on something, you're
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  not googling hard enough because he's everywhere. But yeah, I'm excited to have
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  him on again. So yea, I've got some questions for him, and
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  I think he's got a topic that he wants to bring into the conversation too,
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  so should be a good time. Yeah. He's definitely become a trusted
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  voice for myself anyways, when it comes to just anything Vikings related. I
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  mean, he posts good stuff. He's he's very well read, he researches
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  everything, and he's usually got some pretty good takes. So yeah, yeah,
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  I'm excited for it. Yeah, and just to say it before he's
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  on, you can find him on Twitter. I think it's just at dust
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  Baker. I don't know if there's any numbers or underscores they're in there,
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  but at dust Baker he runs vikes Now, which has Twitter. It's an
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  almost daily YouTube show that he does, and then under vikes Now, there's
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  a few other few other leafs in his in his branches there as far as
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  content creation online. So yeah, good stuff. I know they just recently
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  had Paul Allen, voice of the Vikings there. I don't know if you've
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  got a chance to check that one out of but it was a good conversation
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  with Pa. I to other people, I think I read a tweet or
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  something about it, but I haven't watched the episode. No, you need
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  to go back and watch that. I'm pretty sure that was on vikes Now.
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  PA was energetic as always, and it was it was a really cool
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  conversation and it wasn't just like questions to Pa, like why are you so
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  great? You know? It was actually good questions, pretty entertaining. Yeah,
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  I would like definitely fan girl hard if Man. After I saw Yeah,
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  after I saw Pa on vikes Now, I got the itch. I
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  I almost reached out just on Twitter. He were not big time enough for
• 16:37
  him to even know that we exist, but I almost sent him a message
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  on Twitter like, Hey, would you ever want to come on a small
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  little show someday? Someday we would love to have PA on, and I
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  hope someday we get that, get to have that happen. Let's just let's
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  just get this out of the way right now. If you have been involved,
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  if you're out there listening to us, and you've been involved with the
• 16:57
  Vikings organization in any way, and you want to come on our show,
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  you have an open invitation. Absolutely, I completely agree with that. Yeah,
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  we've we've asked Harrison Smith to come on the show before. Yeah,
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  openly. I think we've maybe interacted with a few other personalities through different social
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  media avenues. Yeah, but open invitation right now, Like, we'll make
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  it happen. I'll even open it up. Any NFL affiliation whatsoever. I
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  know we're both die hard Vikings fans. I'm a fan of anything NFL.
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  I think you are too. You're you're a general overall sports fan. I
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  mean, shoot, if someone on the Chicago Bears wanted to come and talk
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  to us about anything like that, like, I welcome that. Sure it
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  be. It'd be a little different, the content would be a little bit
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  out of our ordinary talking points, but I'd welcome it. I'd talk to
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  it. Friend of the show, Forrest, he's a Bears fan, Yeah,
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  and I think he mixes in well with what we talk about. We
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  might have to draw the line at Packers fans, though, Like, I
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  don't know if that's so. I don't know. I don't know if we
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  can do that. I don't know. I mean, we'd be nice,
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  and as long as they were nice, we could probably have a cordial conversation
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  for sure. For Sube, I wonder what what's the bigger rivalry? I
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  think for US Packers Vikings is the bigger rivalry. But I think Packers and
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  Bears fans would say they have the bigger rivalry. Yeah. I think both
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  of those teams look at each other first, and then there is the rivalry
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  as far as those other teams are concerned when they look at the Vikings.
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  But yeah, I think the Packers and the Bears see each other as a
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  bigger rival than either of them see the Vikings, which is fine. And
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  nobody even cares about the Lions because they still haven't done anything well outside of
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  the most recent NFC Championship game, but other than that, you know,
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  yeah, yeah, all right, Well, we're going to transition here and
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  get Dustin kind of hooked up and settled in, and we'll kind of rejoin
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  back here with Dustin here in just a few minutes. All right, all
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  right, hey, everybody, welcome back in. Like we said at the
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  beginning of the show, we are graced with friend of the show now,
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  Dustin Baker. Dustin, I think this is I think this is your fourth
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  time on. This might be your third time on. Either way you've been
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  on, You've graced us with your presence a few times, so thank you
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  very much for that. Wow, we're going to stop either until you kick
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  me off. Oh hey, so far we have no reason to kick you
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  off. You have only been a net positive for us, and I hope
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  that we kind of enrich at least the time you give us a little bit.
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  So yeah, welcome in Dustin obviously Dustin Baker from vikes Now and all
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  those branches off of vikes Now that are popping up, which congrats for all
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  that. Everything seems to be going well. You can find them on Twitter
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  at dust Baker. Is that correct, Dustin? Ye, somehow got the
• 19:56
  straight dust Baker perfect and we've got some time points. So again, welcome
• 20:00
  In. Thanks for coming on absolutely and you know that I like you guys
• 20:04
  because I realized the Laker game is on. I realized that about an hour
• 20:07
  and a half ago, and I was like, oh, I overbooked myself.
• 20:11
  But last night, if you see my eyes wandering, that's because I'm
• 20:15
  going to ESPN's browser I am equally an NBA fan as I am NFL fan,
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  and I got to make sure the Lakers either win this or win the
• 20:22
  two nights from now to get into the dance. Yeah. Yeah, well,
• 20:26
  I mean we're gonna be biased and say go Timberwolves. Yeah. I
• 20:30
  think I speak for myself and Evan when I say we're both way bigger Vikings
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  fans than any other Minnesota sports But we're gonna root for the other Minnesota sports
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  teams whenever they're doing well, right, So absolutely, all right, So
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  I guess we can just dive into it. Evan before I jump in,
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  Do you have anything you want to say before I steamroll over everybody with my
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  mediocre talkers here? No, I think you should start, and I'll kind
• 20:56
  of piggyback off of those. Sorry, all right, so Dustin, we'll
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  just get right into it. So something that kind of dawned on me the
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  other day. Every draft, for like the last handful of drafts, whether
• 21:10
  it's Rick Spielman or Quacy, the Vikings seemed to enjoy drafting teammates. So
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  like usually if you see like a USC Trojan early on in the draft,
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  you might see one of his Trojan teammates at some point later on, kind
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  of like last year with Jordan Addison and Mackay Blackman. So we won't.
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  We've everybody has over talked this quarterback situation a little bit. Who who would
• 21:36
  they pick if they could trade up? Who do we want which teammate of
• 21:41
  that quarterback, that hypothetical quarterback, whoever it is, Which teammate would be
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  the biggest need filler for the Vikings? Do you think, all right,
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  well you can go one million ways with the Wolverines and JJ McCarthy. So
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  I'll start with the tar Heels. So it's going to be we're gonna get
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  a lot into I think the back half of the show and the quarterback part.
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  So if it's I believe believe it or not, this Vikings thing that's
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  widespread, I actually believe and I do believe it's a binary choice between Drake
• 22:10
  May and JJ McCarthy in terms of trying to predict who the quarterback is going
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  to be the only real one that would accompany Drake May that we would give
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  a damn about that wasn't some undrafted guy or a seventh rounder. It would
• 22:21
  be Devantes Walker. I yep, he's a wide receiver. He's supposed to
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  go in round three or so for credible mock drafters, in theory, he
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  could slide to one O weight. And if you check your notes, you'll
• 22:34
  figure out that the Vikings probably need a WR three unless our viewers love Brandon
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  Powell or Jalen Naylor. But I would say only from the the tar heels
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  that folks would really care about would be Devantes Walker, who's a natural playmaker,
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  and I think Vikings fans would be excited by it. But then thereafter,
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  if we get to the JJ mc carthy, which is like what sportsbooks
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  think's gonna happen, well, then you can have a lot of fun because
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  they're really like all over the place. If you want to either trade up
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  a little bit, you could get Roman Wilson wide receiver your WR three.
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  This Vikings team I believe needs a defensive tackle. You have Chris Jenkins probably
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  won't be available round four, but if Quez uses some of his Day three
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  capital to trade up, Chris Jenkins would be an option. But even after
• 23:27
  that, Blake Krum, if you believe the Vikings need an additional running back
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  after Aaron Jones, and then probably the most realistic options per roster need would
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  be Zach Zenter, the guard who was actually quite good but was coming off
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  the injury, and then Trevor Keagan, another guard. So in the spirit
• 23:47
  of your question, if we believe this is going to come to fruition kind
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  of like last year with Makai Blackman and Jordan Addison, who are like the
• 23:53
  exact same height and weight. By the way I tweeted last year, I
• 23:56
  actually they do a Spider Man meme when they get to camp. Yeah,
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  I would say most realistically, if you kind of want to do a package
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  deal with alumni, it would be JJ McCarthy and probably one of those guards
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  from the Wolverines because they live in a draft world where they can get got
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  by the Vikings with the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round pick,
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  and you get Blake Brandall, who who I think we're trying to warm up
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  to as a starting left guard. But the need there would be for guard
• 24:26
  at least a competition for Brandal, and then the Wolverines are sending two to
• 24:32
  the pros that won't need a first, second or third round draft pick.
• 24:36
  So those would be the package deals. Of course, if you got if
• 24:40
  we we spent five hours tonight, we could go into Pennix and all the
• 24:42
  Washington Hushers that are going to be there. Well, let's keep it simple
• 24:45
  with those Washington dudes and devontees Walker wide receiver. If it's Drake May from
• 24:52
  North Carolina, all right, I like it, Evan. I think I
• 24:56
  know who you would answer as far as the teammate of a drafted quarterback.
• 25:03
  So I think if it was if the Vikings were to draft JJ McCarthy,
• 25:06
  I think I know who you would answer as far as one of his teammates.
• 25:08
  Yeah, you probably do. I would go after Blake Krum. Yeah,
• 25:12
  there it is, Yeah for sure. Yeah, And I think that's
• 25:15
  a legitimate need for the Vikings right now too at running back. And I
• 25:18
  think the Wolverines proved that they were a pretty balanced team offensively. JJ McCarthy
• 25:26
  looked good, and I think he's deserving of being as high as he is
• 25:32
  in the draft stock world. But Blake Corum did a lot of work offensively
• 25:37
  for the Wolverines, especially in that National championship game. Oh yeah, that's
• 25:41
  really what I'm working off of in terms of my working knowledge of Michigan football,
• 25:45
  because I didn't really care until watching that game. But yeah, I
• 25:51
  think he's definitely somebody they should be looking at for sure. Yeah, you
• 25:56
  got to look at Aaron Jones through a lens of a one year deal.
• 25:59
  Right now, we're grateful we're lucky enough to have a deep running back room,
• 26:06
  but a the guy is gonna be thirty, Well, I mean deep
• 26:10
  in like it's better than Madison, and then then what are we gonna do?
• 26:14
  Actually, it's deep by sheer human bodies. There's five running backs and
• 26:17
  they don't need that many in the regular season. But in terms of prestige,
• 26:22
  thankfully Aaron Jones is there. So I agree with Evan that even though
• 26:25
  you might have some hey we just signed Aaron Jones, got tight channel,
• 26:27
  we don't need an f running back. Well, it's like the guy is
• 26:30
  gonna be thirty in December, so Blake Krum could be affordable for four years.
• 26:34
  I would also look for John or Jim Harbaugh at the Chargers. I
• 26:37
  bet you he's gonna draft at least two or three of his National championship guys.
• 26:44
  And by the way, the Chargers need a running back. So if
• 26:45
  he isn't a Viking, I bet you he's a Charger. Yeah, I
• 26:51
  would guess he's probably looking somewhere around that third to second round range for Blake
• 26:56
  Korum. I might be wrong on that. He kind of feels like a
• 27:00
  early ish type pick. And honestly, Blake Korum is the teammate that I
• 27:06
  was kind of thinking of when I came up with that question. Yeah,
• 27:08
  okay, so I think we can all agree offensive line and running back are
• 27:14
  our needs. Even defensive line are pretty big needs for the Vikings. But
• 27:18
  I wouldn't I wouldn't be mad if Blake was a Viking after the draft.
• 27:21
  No, the the only reason it fell off our talkers is because of Aaron
• 27:25
  Jones, so that we don't have that necessity. But I like brayln Allen
• 27:30
  from Wisconsin and I'm pretty much big ten here, and then Korum would be
• 27:34
  fantastic in Kevin O'Connell's offense. So yeah, I just think the the necessity,
• 27:40
  based on how we look at the draft running back diminished in terms of,
• 27:44
  oh, they're going to do a round four, they got to go
• 27:45
  get their running back. You don't necessarily have to do that now. Yeah.
• 27:49
  Yep. So ESPN right now in their mock draft has Quorum at sixty
• 27:55
  seventh overall. Okay, towards the end of the third round. M so,
• 28:00
  well, towards the end of the second round, early third, right,
• 28:06
  yeah, sorry, somewhere in there either way, somewhere in that range.
• 28:08
  That's where he'll go out. And I agree with you, Dustin.
• 28:11
  I think Aaron Jones, even if he comes out this next this coming season
• 28:15
  and he has a thirteen to fifteen hundred yard season with ten plus touchdowns,
• 28:21
  I don't think you can bank on anything more than this season just based off
• 28:23
  of age. I mean, thirty is when running backs disintegreed, He's going
• 28:29
  to be thirty. I think we looked it up in December. So I
• 28:32
  think our best case is a decent one year with Aaron Jones, and I
• 28:36
  hope you get that. But I mean after that, you still need to
• 28:38
  have depth and looking towards the future. Yeah. That's why any running back,
• 28:42
  especially Korum, especially Braylan All and my guy, if they do select
• 28:48
  one, you know, before round five. That's why Vikings fans should be
• 28:52
  refreshed and not like what we're doing. We do already have running backs.
• 28:56
  Well, no, you have an old one, you have a pretty decent
• 28:59
  one, and then you have a bunch of lottery tickets after that. So
• 29:06
  all right, so I have kind of dubbed myself a Saint Louis BattleHawks fan
• 29:11
  for the UFL, and I say that to transition into my next question for
• 29:15
  you. In the first game of the battle Hawks season this year, they
• 29:18
  lost it on a last second sixty four yard field goal from I believe his
• 29:25
  name is Jake Bates with the Michigan Panthers. Yea. So all that to
• 29:30
  say, I think you even had a Vikes or Vikings territory article saying that
• 29:36
  koc hinted that the Vikings they need to open up some competition with that kicker
• 29:41
  situation. So what do the Vikings do a kicker? Are they going to
• 29:45
  try to sign somebody that could clearly compete and might arguably be better than John
• 29:51
  Parker Romo and somebody like Jake Bates, I would say, is etching himself
• 29:56
  into that territory? Do they try to draft a guy? I think in
• 30:00
  your article you list out a handful of decent looking college kickers coming in,
• 30:04
  So yeah, what do you think they do? Yeah, well, in
• 30:07
  the last forty years, they've drafted two kickers the Vikings, and they're dirty
• 30:11
  words now. Blair Walsh and Daniel Carlson. So it has it worked,
• 30:15
  but I absolutely well. I would say before yesterday, I was probably seventy
• 30:22
  five percent sure that another kicker would be on the roster. Now I'm one
• 30:25
  hundred percent sure because Kevin O'Connell said, we are going to have kicking competition
• 30:30
  and to have that, you need a second kicker. So even though they
• 30:33
  had Romo I think signed deer two year deal in spirit without a lot of
• 30:37
  guarantees, kind of like Joseph last year, there's going to be another kicker.
• 30:41
  And I would say when the dust settles, that's probably from undrafted free
• 30:47
  agency or even the dude that you talked to Jake Bates from Is that the
• 30:52
  UFL. Yeah, the newly renamed and conformed the USFL. Yeah, So
• 30:59
  I think it will be a guy like that. In the draft. There
• 31:03
  is Will Reichard from Alabama, Alex McNulty from Buffalo, a couple. I
• 31:07
  think there's a guy from Stanford. But yes, Greg Joseph is gone and
• 31:12
  he's now playing for the Packers and he's gonna, yeah, he's gonna go.
• 31:17
  He's gonna go against Daniel Carlson's brother, Andrews Carlson and former Viking Jack
• 31:22
  put Lesni for a kicker battle, and there was a point last year.
• 31:26
  I don't remember what game it was, but I remember texting Yanick Eckhart and
• 31:30
  said, I'm done with Greg Joseph. Like I'm just done, because I
• 31:34
  for three years, I'm like, God, the guy is cold blooded when
• 31:37
  it counts, and then all the other times he's completely mid, if not
• 31:44
  very just not good. Extra points were a problem. Regular field goals were
• 31:48
  a problem. In fact, after he missed that game winner against the Cardinals
• 31:52
  in twenty twenty one, his only thing was hitting game winning field goals,
• 31:56
  and I think that's what kept him employed for two years. More So,
• 32:00
  I want the Vikings to get a kicker who does everything, Like you know,
• 32:04
  who's a top ten guy, top fifteen guy that can hit game winners,
• 32:07
  that can hit extra points, that can hit forty yard field goals.
• 32:10
  They're out there. And so the best way to do that was to say
• 32:14
  goodbye to Greg Joseph because his field goal percentage was bottom six and back to
• 32:19
  back seasons, and we just really didn't feel it in our bones because the
• 32:22
  guy won so many games in the twenty twenty two season. So yeah,
• 32:27
  base Unless Kevin O'Connell absolutely lied, they're gonna have another kicker. And that's
• 32:31
  one other thing that's really cool about this regime is when they say something,
• 32:37
  it usually happens. They don't have that. Hey, our intent is to
• 32:43
  keep stefan digs. They don't usually lie. Now they've gotten better being diplomatic
• 32:47
  with their words, like my hope is this and we're gonna think about doing
• 32:51
  this. But the good thing about this regime, especially from our perspective when
• 32:55
  you're trying to figure out what's gonna happen, is they usually tell the truth.
• 33:00
  Will absolutely be another kicker, and I would guess it'll be from UDFA.
• 33:07
  Is there a scenario that I know a handful of teams in the league
• 33:10
  do this. I haven't seen the Vikings do this in recent memory? Maybe
• 33:15
  if ever, But is there a scenario where there's a different place kicker as
• 33:19
  opposed to a Will kicker? Man, that's I don't know that the Viking.
• 33:23
  I don't think the Vikings ever done that in my life. I've always
• 33:27
  wondered about it, Like, you know, that would be kind of sweet,
• 33:30
  but then it sucks away a roster spot, and I know those are
• 33:32
  so precious, so no, I think whatever they do, whether it's go
• 33:38
  two feet with Parker Romo or jump in with two feet, or if they
• 33:45
  they do the competition thing with Will Reicher from Alabama or something, I think
• 33:49
  it'll be the single guy. What I've always wondered, and this sounds like
• 33:52
  a real casual take, is why in the world can no football team find
• 33:58
  a punter and a kicker, a guy to do this like both. Why
• 34:00
  isn't there the vikings? I know that way that might have been where my
• 34:06
  idea was born, but I've always wondered it's not like the weirdest concept in
• 34:10
  the history of humanity to have a guy who kicks the football do both,
• 34:15
  but nobody ever does that. I know they can do it in emergency situations,
• 34:19
  but I've always wondered, why isn't there just one bad ass from all
• 34:22
  those sweet YouTube videos like when the guy hit seventy five yards, why isn't
• 34:25
  there one like Lebron kicker and punter who can just do everything. It's always
• 34:30
  been one of my casual fan takes. Well, you gotta think too,
• 34:36
  like teams have actively tried against that, like they the Lions tried to have
• 34:40
  Dominican Sue kick a field goal or at least an extra point one time,
• 34:45
  and I think chadou Cher Sinko attempted to kick off or a field goal or
• 34:50
  something like that one time rather than that team's punter. Yeah, Corey Fedvick.
• 34:53
  He was the last Vikings attempted dual player at that Yeah, that costs
• 34:59
  of Vikings a fourth round pick. I don't think he made the team that
• 35:00
  year. No, No, he he lost one of those competitions very vividly,
• 35:06
  and the preseason looked like a moron. And uh, yeah, so
• 35:09
  I remember him while also when I was thinking high school, Doug Flutie for
• 35:14
  shits and giggles, they used to bring him into kick extra points and yeah,
• 35:17
  well he famously has that drop kick too for the Patriots, right,
• 35:22
  yeah, that's him. Well, and for the Vikings, even before Correy
• 35:27
  vedvik what oh five or something like that, they tried to sign Rhys Lloyd.
• 35:34
  Yeah puts his name, Yeah, to be like a kickoff specialist.
• 35:38
  Every once in a while, teams try to get cute with that. But
• 35:42
  I think Dustin, you hit the nail on the head. It takes up
• 35:44
  an extra roster spot and it never seems to work out. Yeah, I
• 35:47
  don't know why. And it's and it's really weird that we have to be
• 35:51
  rigid about that or like the you know, the DeLine delineation in between.
• 35:54
  This guy's a punter, this guy's a cooker. I swear, you know,
• 35:59
  in some country, probably one of those awesome guys. I'm sure,
• 36:01
  I'm sure there's there's a guy who can do both. Well. I bring
• 36:07
  that up because it seems that John Parker Romo made his way to Minnesota because
• 36:14
  of or maybe uh, maybe this is less the reason. I don't know
• 36:19
  who. I can't really say, but it a lot of buzz was floating
• 36:23
  around about the new kickoff rules and how he was familiar with those already,
• 36:29
  and people were making takes. You know, Quasi's out there playing chess and
• 36:34
  everybody else is playing checkers because he knew and you know, I don't know
• 36:37
  if that's actually true or not, but it is. It is interesting to
• 36:42
  note that, you know, he's gonna be familiar with those things. And
• 36:45
  whether or not he actually wins the job or not remains to be seen,
• 36:49
  but he'll have familiarity with that that new kickoff system. Yeah, well it's
• 36:54
  the same reason that CORYL. Patterson was signed like two hours after that rule
• 36:59
  went to effect is and that's the reason that Canaan and Wongoo jobs is going
• 37:02
  to be suddenly safe. He would have been on this board back here for
• 37:06
  a roster cuting let me tell you what. But to your point, Evan,
• 37:09
  yeah, I think getting ahead of that and realizing that, hey,
• 37:14
  this this could be what an extra touchdown or two per year that we're leaving
• 37:16
  out there if we don't figure out how to defend this, how to kick
• 37:20
  against it, or in Canaane Wongoo's how to return against it. So yeah,
• 37:24
  I'm hoping they're ahead of the curve. And that was part of the
• 37:28
  the Romo move. Yeah. I remember your Vikings Territory article very soon after
• 37:34
  they announced that rule that hey, this this fringe Vikings job was just saved.
• 37:38
  It totally was because they refused to use him on offense Canaan and Wongou
• 37:44
  and it felt like, if we're just going to keep cutting back the kickoff
• 37:47
  returns, there's no point in employing this guy. But then the exact opposite
• 37:52
  happened. By the look of it, The optics they the kickoff. The
• 37:58
  new kickoff rule looks like will have more action, and therefore Knay is probably
• 38:02
  still a top five, top eight fastest player in football, and he's already
• 38:07
  returned three to the house. I think we're we're thinking, all right,
• 38:09
  we went from a guy who's gonna be cut probably, you know, right
• 38:13
  away in the summer, to a guy that absolutely is gonna make the team
• 38:15
  and probably return a touchdown or two. Yeah, well, congratulations, guys.
• 38:22
  I don't think any Vikings related content producing entity has talked about the kicking
• 38:30
  or returning game as much as we just did this offseason. So around to
• 38:35
  movie, that's important. When I had Ben Leber on the show about six
• 38:39
  weeks ago, Tyler Eiler and our producer he came aboard too, and he
• 38:45
  and Ben Lieber started talking about Lewis c and I was thinking, I was
• 38:49
  thinking to myself, like, gosh, just segments going kind of long.
• 38:52
  And it turned out that Ben Leber loved talking about something that wasn't the quarterback,
• 38:57
  and so it was. And that's what he went on the next day
• 39:00
  on Paul Allen Show and said our show was cool because we actually talked about
• 39:04
  something that wasn't the quarterback. So I think there is an appetite to get
• 39:08
  outside the usual man or McCarthy and then talk about Evans example of the kicker
• 39:13
  and the kicking game. So yes, kudos for the topic. Well,
• 39:16
  you got to think, even if the Vikings come out tomorrow and sign Tom
• 39:21
  Brady out of nowhere, eventually we're gonna get kind of tired of talking about
• 39:24
  Tom Brady, right Like, when we're gonna want some other topic, They'll
• 39:28
  need to put out an alternate helmet for people to actually get excited about and
• 39:30
  talk about something else. Right, all right, but I guess we can
• 39:37
  move on a little bit. So I've had a flash in the pan.
• 39:42
  I don't know thought question here. It seems like anytime you see Patriots fans
• 39:47
  or people who advocate for the Patriots to trade away their pick to the Vikings,
• 39:52
  it's some crazy trade package where the Vikings send obviously the first the two
• 39:59
  first round picks is here, twenty twenty five first round pick justin Jefferson,
• 40:04
  maybe the twenty twenty six first round pick, and like that's obviously eye roll.
• 40:07
  But like my question is, do the Vikings really have to give up
• 40:12
  next year's first round pick, and of course, I mean maybe for the
• 40:15
  Patriots pick they do, but for to get their guy, do they really
• 40:21
  have to give up next year's first or will it just take this year's two
• 40:24
  first round picks for starters? Those we've been like in this pot of water
• 40:30
  that's boiling with the trade theories and those theories that say three first rounders,
• 40:37
  then Jefferson and then maybe the Patriots, they can go to hell, Like
• 40:39
  we're not gonna start doing all that. Like we started this at two first
• 40:44
  rounders, we warmed up to a third now where I guess warmed to another
• 40:46
  first and then the other one the other day from I think ESPN something was
• 40:51
  like, well they could throw in drosof too. It's like, that's not
• 40:53
  going to happen, folks, We'll just stick and pick with Pennix. If
• 40:57
  you're gonna be dicks about this, right, I think it's just the big
• 41:00
  grand what Cardinals fans do this a little bit too, where they're like,
• 41:04
  oh, it's gonna be three first rounders before we even talk to you,
• 41:06
  And it's like, first of all, you don't work there, man,
• 41:08
  so you don't need to talk to me like that. And I know that
• 41:13
  Marvin Harrison's going to be good. So I know where you're coming from,
• 41:15
  but don't tell me exactly what the price is gonna be. To answer your
• 41:19
  question, yes, I do believe next year's first rounder will have to be
• 41:24
  the penance paid. I think that is where we're at as the compromise or
• 41:29
  the solution so that we don't have to give Darisaw Addison or Jefferson is in
• 41:36
  all likelihood, the Vikings aren't gonna be great next year, and they're probably
• 41:39
  gonna have a similar pick to this year, if not higher. I think
• 41:44
  opposing general managers recognize that, and therefore it's too juicy, too scintillating for
• 41:51
  the would be trade partner not to inquire about next year's pick. I have
• 41:55
  a feeling that if they're like, it's the two first rounders, and then
• 41:59
  Quacy is like, like, all right, the deal is getting close here,
• 42:01
  that's probably gonna be the hinge on which the deal goes back and forth.
• 42:06
  So I would say, yes, I do. I've kind of personally
• 42:10
  concluded that it's gonna be these two first rounders and next year's Anything more than
• 42:15
  that really pisses me off. It's like, when does it end, and
• 42:20
  I hope to an extent Quazy has that mentality, especially if they get to
• 42:23
  the Chargers and either Drake May has slide slided, or if McCarthy is there.
• 42:30
  I hope that there's some sort of little discount and it's not three first
• 42:35
  rounders at the number five pick, because that would be damn near and precedented.
• 42:38
  But if it's for my guy, Drake May, I've already conceded that
• 42:43
  it's probably gonna cost the three first rounders, but I will reiterate, if
• 42:46
  the guy is good and he sticks around for a decade or more, nobody
• 42:51
  will give a shit how much it costs. I don't think Texans fans are
• 42:53
  bitching right now that, hey, we don't have enough draft capital. Shut
• 42:57
  up, you have cap space, you have CJ. Stroud. All of
• 43:00
  a sudden, you have this roster that's just dripping gold. This is how
• 43:04
  the Vikings can be at this time next year on your very show. They
• 43:07
  nail this draft pick. They have all the money coming around the bend.
• 43:12
  We have this rare opportunity that if you draft the right quarterback, everything gets
• 43:16
  kind of smoothed over. Then all of a sudden, the roster doesn't look
• 43:21
  half bad by the way, you got Justin Jefferson Jordan Madison. So even
• 43:24
  though it feels so far in advance to look at well, hey, let's
• 43:29
  like if the drake May turns out to be good, then the Vikings can
• 43:30
  do this. That can those conversations can happen like ten months from now if
• 43:36
  drake May shows early signs of being good, because then you have four more
• 43:40
  years thereafter once you get the next offseason to do what the Texans are doing
• 43:44
  right now. So yes, I am one of the ones that's willing to
• 43:47
  give up next year's first rounder, but I really like a hard cut off
• 43:52
  there. And I assume because the Commanders, the Patriots, the Cardinals,
• 43:57
  and the Chargers, all four of those sons of have said they're open for
• 44:00
  business, and if they're telling the truth, one of them is going to
• 44:06
  jump at the Vikings deal. I don't think all four of them would make
• 44:08
  shit up just for the heck of it. I think there is a little
• 44:12
  bit of competition to grab the Vikings draft picks, and therefore one of those
• 44:15
  teams will do business, which should guarantee the Vikings. JJ McCarthy as the
• 44:21
  floor in this draft awesome. So a follow up question, all of that
• 44:30
  my Twitter algorithm might be completely trashed, because I just I fall for clickbait
• 44:35
  sometimes. But everything that I've seen this week anyways, has indicated that the
• 44:44
  league could do something with the tampering stuff and bump the vikings up to the
• 44:51
  Falcons eighth pick. Let's say theoretically that happens. I don't think any of
• 44:55
  us are holding our breath that it will happen. But if it did,
• 45:00
  does that change the landscape of things trading up? I mean, is the
• 45:06
  price tag still this year's first plus first next year to get into that top
• 45:14
  five? Or does that change now that we're eight and what is it twenty
• 45:17
  three? Yeah? I will this year. So I really hope that Quasi
• 45:23
  and Rob are already preparing for this situation. I do not think it's gonna
• 45:29
  happen. Let's get that out there. I don't think the NFL cares enough
• 45:32
  about tampering. They call it legal tampering. If you don't like tampering,
• 45:37
  get the word the hell out of like the title on your billboard. So
• 45:40
  I don't think they're going to throw the book at the Falcons if they do
• 45:44
  anything. I'm gonna guess it's like a pick swap next year round three,
• 45:47
  kind of like they did I think for the Eagles or something a couple of
• 45:51
  years ago. But to answer the question, Evan, if indeed you know
• 45:54
  Mike Florio was right that this whole runaway train about first round one, Yeah,
• 46:00
  yeah, pick swap is correct, I would say the way that could
• 46:04
  be most applicable to the Vikings would be, all of a sudden, if
• 46:08
  you're doing business with the Chargers, I think the new deal could be the
• 46:14
  eighth overall pick and then next year's first, and then you keep the twenty
• 46:20
  third pick because there is a little bit of trade calculator variance. I think
• 46:22
  it's one hundred and fifty points or something like that. But uh, in
• 46:27
  terms of getting into the top three or if you want Drake May, I
• 46:31
  would sure as hell hope that that would cancel out anything else besides the three
• 46:37
  first rounders if they get to number eight. I haven't spent too much time
• 46:40
  thinking about it. Because we're Vikings fans. We don't expect really sweet things
• 46:44
  to happen. So I don't think that Goodell is going to be like about
• 46:46
  a bing Falcons. You are penalized in their four swap picks. But my
• 46:52
  goodness, that would be really fascinating it And Florio even said they could like
• 46:55
  announce it at like six forty five on draft night. It's like, man,
• 47:00
  you're really banging the drum on suspense for this one. I don't think
• 47:02
  that there's going to be a massive penalty, And if anything, I think
• 47:07
  there was another. I think it was that pick swap where they basically said
• 47:09
  to the teams, figure it out between yourselves and let me know what you
• 47:13
  come up with. And that year it was a third round pick swap,
• 47:15
  so something like that could be coming. But of course the Vikings don't have
• 47:17
  a third round or yeah, yeah, that's the whole precedence for this argument
• 47:23
  is that, Yeah, last year it was the Cardinals technically tampered in hiring
• 47:28
  Gannon as their head coach away from the Eagles. And I think you're right.
• 47:31
  It sounds like the NFL is like, hey, Eagles and Cardinals,
• 47:35
  you guys figure this out and give us a presentation. And the Cardinals and
• 47:38
  Eagles pretty much said, okay, we'll swap something like a late sixties pick
• 47:44
  for a late or early nineties pick, and then I think the Cardinals are
• 47:49
  also sending this year's fifth round pick, and they told that to the NFL,
• 47:53
  and they're like, Okay, it sounds good. But it might have.
• 47:57
  It could have been something as simple as like, yeah, we're being
• 48:00
  six round picks in the NFL. Still might have been like, all right,
• 48:02
  sounds good. Like you never know, So I don't know. It'd
• 48:06
  be sweet if they announced, hey, the Vikings now have the eighth overall
• 48:08
  pick, But I think all three of us kind of think that's not really
• 48:15
  gonna happen. The only way it would happen if they want if this was
• 48:17
  a major pain in the ass, like it really got on Roger Goodell's nerves,
• 48:22
  then yeah, that would be a way to fix it so that teams
• 48:24
  didn't do that anymore, like monkeying around with your first round picks. That'll
• 48:29
  be a deterrent. But I really don't think they care that much. Otherwise
• 48:32
  they wouldn't call it legal tampering. They would just they would get the word
• 48:36
  tampering out of it all together. And I mean, I think we already
• 48:39
  know that that Monday a free agency as a sham. We know it's all
• 48:45
  it's all tampering. And so to say that the Falcons did something absolutely deviant.
• 48:51
  I mean, at the end of the day, I don't think anyone's
• 48:52
  really care that Cousins is gone. So we're just looking for a little gravy,
• 48:57
  you know. Yep, all right, I think we got two more
• 49:01
  points we want to bring up here before we call it quits. I know
• 49:05
  you're agonizing over something, but we'll kind of tease that a little bit.
• 49:08
  Okay, I just have one more question. I think Evan, you kind
• 49:13
  of alluded to this about falling for clickbait Dustin earlier. You kind of talked
• 49:17
  about like how at this time it's all smoke screen, you can't really believe
• 49:22
  it. How do we tell like sometimes it's plain is day, Like the
• 49:25
  whole tweet about the US Bank Stadium going vegan or whatever, like that's plain
• 49:31
  is day. Not not accurate, Like that's ridiculous unless you happen to be
• 49:36
  a former Wisconsin like governor or whatever and retweeted out today. But like,
• 49:40
  how do you tell like, Okay, when they say, hey, we
• 49:44
  are going to bring a kicking competition, like that sounds reasonable. But when
• 49:47
  they also say, like, ah no, we we're pretty confident that we
• 49:52
  can stick at eleven and twenty three, Like what percentage do we give to
• 49:55
  stuff like that? How do we see the smoke screen and the real life
• 49:59
  stuff. You gotta use real life logic and basically put yourself in their shoes
• 50:04
  if you were Quazy, because if he came out and said, bitches,
• 50:07
  we're taking a quarterback and we're desperate, like we would probably be fired and
• 50:12
  then we would laugh at him forever. So his job is to deceive.
• 50:17
  His personal job is to play word games in front of the microphone for these
• 50:22
  months only where he says we have flexibility. There was a week about three
• 50:25
  weeks ago for that was the word that must have been like an Egan,
• 50:30
  was flexibility, because every leader was saying it ad nauseum. But Quasy's job
• 50:35
  right now is to present the illusion of flexibility and to mislead. So anything
• 50:40
  from him that says, you know, we like Sam Darnold or a lot
• 50:44
  and he could be our starter, like you should take that as like a
• 50:49
  pretty much boldfaced lie that you know, he's not our long term starter,
• 50:52
  but he can probably get us by and we think he's got a little Baker
• 50:55
  Mayfield in him. But he has to present that case in terms of he
• 51:00
  constructing the smoke screens on the whole. You have to know who to follow.
• 51:06
  So like thorn eisrom Is, a guy who comes on my YouTube show
• 51:08
  Vike's now pretty frequently. That guy doesn't make shit up. He's not even
• 51:13
  though he loves JJ McCarthy, he's not creating smoke screens because it amuses himself.
• 51:19
  The guys at NFL dot com are good, like Peter Schrager. When
• 51:22
  you find those battle tested voices that are usually accurate the year before and the
• 51:25
  year before that, those are the ones you listen to. Now you're gonna
• 51:30
  have the hot take merchants where you're like, well, who's that guy?
• 51:34
  And then that like the moron account that you talked about with NFC North News,
• 51:37
  like that's just the onion. So there's that separation between people like who
• 51:42
  just make things up and you know, and then there's the real smoke screens
• 51:45
  where people are either manipulated media members and to saying, hey, the patriots
• 51:51
  might just sticking pick for JJ McCarthy. They love them, like, you
• 51:54
  don't know when to tell. But you have to basically kind of exist and
• 51:59
  read in this space for a few drafts to figure out, you know,
• 52:01
  is this real? I think we talked about in your show last time.
• 52:05
  In twenty twenty two, Malik Willis was going in the first round. I
• 52:08
  remember believing in it that God, this guy's going to the Panthers at number
• 52:12
  six or whatever it was, and then he slid all the way around three.
• 52:15
  I remember thinking, is he gotta go to the Vikings because that that
• 52:19
  slide was so vast. Last year was will Levis? He was in right
• 52:22
  there in the big the big what was it, Richardson, Stroud, Young
• 52:29
  and Levis and Hooker. Yeah, so it was like a big three and
• 52:34
  then a big four and five if you liked Hooker and Levis low and behold,
• 52:37
  Levis slid out of round one. But you'll if you go back last
• 52:42
  year and you look at some of the mock drafts that were published right right
• 52:47
  before the draft, there were some smart, credible mock drafters that had Anthony
• 52:52
  Richardson going to the Vikings via trade. And we found out about ten months
• 52:58
  later that the Vikings tried to make that happen. So you want to vet
• 53:02
  the sources that have been around for a while. You can consider everything that
• 53:07
  Quasey says, in terms of this quarterback cycle with a grain of salt,
• 53:13
  because his job is to present a facade of being flexible. But in terms
• 53:17
  of the ordinary smoke screens, I think the McCarthy one has been around for
• 53:21
  too long now to be a smoke screen. I think he's going to go
• 53:24
  in round one and probably in the top ten. But then again, you
• 53:28
  look at I would have been probably on your show two years ago, Sam
• 53:30
  Malik Willis. It sounds like he's going in the top ten, even though
• 53:35
  I didn't really see the allure there. I do see it with JJ McCarthy
• 53:38
  because he's so young and he has all the tools. So yeah, it's
• 53:43
  trust Quacy to an extent, but know that part of his job is not
• 53:46
  revealing too much. Yeah, that makes sense, so to kind of transition
• 53:52
  to I think what you want to talk about here in a second testing.
• 53:58
  We on our show talked at length with one of our friends who's a big
• 54:04
  Michigan fan about JJ specifically, and I don't know Austin when was this was
• 54:10
  this January February. We were talking with him on the show about JJ McCarthy
• 54:16
  being a late first rounder, early second Yeah, and he is shot up.
• 54:22
  Ye. Yeah, what's changed? And how has he climbed the ladder
• 54:29
  so to speak, to get into I mean right now ESPN's got him going
• 54:32
  top ten. Yeah, well he hasn't played any football, which is really
• 54:37
  weird, and he's climbed. Yeah. I remember the debut of McCarthy in
• 54:40
  the Vikings Orbit because he felt like a guy that you could get in round
• 54:46
  two and then also get a defensive tackle or something like that, and I
• 54:50
  remember thinking that could work. And then to Evan's point, here we are
• 54:53
  nine days for the draft and we're wondering if we even have the draft capital
• 54:58
  to get him so so where it has at least for the like because NFL
• 55:05
  war rooms are always going to have what they have no matter what. We're
• 55:07
  just not privy to them. In the draft community. It was the realization
• 55:13
  that general managers are going to buy into the fact that this guy seems to
• 55:17
  have the it factor. It's a real creative spinoff of quarterback wins, which
• 55:23
  I can't stand. But I do believe that when he won the national championship,
• 55:28
  the powers that be, so scouts and thirty two general managers, they
• 55:32
  saw what their team and specifically their offense can be with him. And so
• 55:37
  once the mock draft community caught on and realized that, oh shit, okay,
• 55:43
  this guy is more than just some twenty year old that's going to be
• 55:45
  raw and a second or third rounder, no teams have him pegged as a
• 55:49
  guy that they can polish even further and then replicate what Michigan did, because
• 55:54
  if you're a general manager, your goal is to create a roster like the
• 55:58
  current forty nine or in college, the Wolverines, and then drop any quarterback
• 56:04
  in there and then kind of let it cook. And I think with McCarthy
• 56:08
  it remains to be seen if he is a bootstraps guy that can just drag
• 56:13
  the team to the postseason, or if he's going to be kind of like
• 56:16
  a Stafford where when the rest of the piecers are there, then he's magnificent.
• 56:21
  But yeah, the short answer is the media, they're draft boards,
• 56:27
  caught up to the war rooms of the NFL and they realize that this really
• 56:32
  young prospect is more than just a game manager. I think that's what the
• 56:37
  label was in November and December. Then he won a national championship. Then
• 56:42
  all of us put on the tape. We saw the zip he throws with.
• 56:45
  We saw the attitude, we saw the he seems like a guy that's
• 56:50
  going to transform your team. He's not just going to be that Brad Johnson
• 56:55
  game manager. He's going to be a lot more than that. And then
• 56:59
  statistically, he's at his best on third down and in pressure cook situations.
• 57:04
  And I believe that would qualify as the IT factor if you wanted to put
• 57:07
  like a stat on it is when when things are getting getting hot, onto
• 57:12
  the caller, you want a guy to convert third and nine. And McCarthy
• 57:15
  did that over and over for the Wolverines, and wouldn't you know it,
• 57:19
  they won the championship. Yeah. All right, so here here's the question.
• 57:23
  Who is it? Let's say we live in a world next Thursday,
• 57:27
  the Vikings have made the trade up and both JJ and Drake may are available.
• 57:35
  Dustin Baker, who do they pay? Just where you want? Who?
• 57:37
  Do you want me to launch into my agony with this or do you
• 57:40
  want me to get let's do it? All right? So? Uh,
• 57:44
  a precursor, a teaser to this is usually for a Viking situation, I
• 57:50
  can look at a series of facts and be like, all right, here's
• 57:53
  what I think what will happen. It took me a little longer than usual
• 57:57
  with Kirk Cousins to predict what was going to happen with his free agency.
• 58:00
  Ultimately, when we got to February, my intuition told me he's not going
• 58:04
  to be back with the Vikings, that this is the natural divorce point.
• 58:07
  They're going to go draft their quarterback. Here we are every day, I
• 58:12
  just smirk, and I cannot in good faith predict whether it's going to be
• 58:17
  May or McCarthy. I happen to agree with the Purple community that says the
• 58:22
  choice is binary between these two. I really do think the next quarterback is
• 58:25
  going to be Drake May or JJ McCarthy. But I have a case for
• 58:30
  May and a case for McCarthy. In terms of the prediction, I very
• 58:34
  vividly want Drake May to be the quarterback. I will be happy with McCarthy.
• 58:37
  I will be elated with Drake May. So here's I'm going to try
• 58:42
  to blow through these so that I don't sound like I'm bloviating here. So
• 58:45
  Drake May. The one where I keep coming back to Drake May is the
• 58:51
  the Josh McCown angle. And I know that feels a little hokey where you're
• 58:53
  like, oh, just because they they hired the guys coach from high school,
• 58:58
  that seems like way too much of a coincidence. So when I when
• 59:00
  I start to drift over towards McCarthy as my pick, I yank myself back
• 59:06
  with saying, God, but they hired Josh McCown. That's got to mean
• 59:08
  something, doesn't it. So the case for May is the Josh McCown higher.
• 59:14
  I personally believe that Drake May's ceiling is higher. And if the Vikings
• 59:17
  are going to do this, you know, draft a rookie quarterback for life
• 59:21
  after Cook Kirk. Excuse me, you want to get the guy who can
• 59:24
  climb higher, and I think that that is Drake May. Drake May has
• 59:30
  slightly more prototypical size. He's already six y four, already close to two
• 59:35
  thirty. We went into the combine wondering if JJ McCarthy was going to not
• 59:38
  be two hundred pounds. Thankfully, for his sake, he was six three
• 59:43
  and two nineteen. Yeah, you put on like twenty pounds. He just
• 59:47
  like, you know, just binge eight or if he uh, he probably
• 59:51
  worked out a lot. But in terms of what you prospect you'd build in
• 59:54
  the lab. Drake May has that slight advantage life after Kirk Cousins. I
• 1:00:00
  think that this regime wants to be bold, and the bolder move, in
• 1:00:05
  my opinion, is to trade up to number three with the Patriots to get
• 1:00:08
  Drake May. And then my last thing for May in terms of prediction is
• 1:00:13
  that there was more dropbacks, more experience at North Carolina. Even though we
• 1:00:19
  don't want to put a game manager label on JJ McCarthy in terms of how
• 1:00:22
  much he threw the ball, he never had a game where it was like,
• 1:00:27
  Wow, this guy just put the team on his back. They never
• 1:00:29
  asked him to do that. And with poor Drake May, it was always
• 1:00:34
  a gun slinging festivities. So that's the case for Drake May. Now the
• 1:00:38
  case for JJ McCarthy is a little lengthier. We talked about the quarterback wins
• 1:00:43
  angle. I don't know if Quasi a Dafha Mensa is enamored with that,
• 1:00:46
  like, hey, this guy's quarterback record is this. But JJ McCarthy certainly
• 1:00:52
  has that. He's got the wins to go along with his resume. Just
• 1:00:57
  like I talked about Josh McCown being the kicker. From anytime I start to
• 1:01:00
  think it's gonna be McCarthy, this next one for McCarthy is what always brings
• 1:01:05
  me back to him. His personality is exactly like the Vikings head coach.
• 1:01:09
  It is eternally happy, always smiling, just endless optimism. He wore a
• 1:01:15
  happy face on his shirt at the pro day. And if Kevin O'Connell gets
• 1:01:20
  to have a say in this pick, usually human beings gravitate, gravitate towards
• 1:01:23
  folks who are kind of like themselves. I was on a show earlier today.
• 1:01:28
  I think it was a talking to Yannick on Vikes. Now, if
• 1:01:30
  I was at the grocery store and there was a bald guy who was about
• 1:01:32
  forty who was wearing a Vikings hoodie, I'd say to my wife, that
• 1:01:36
  guy looks pretty cool, let's go talk to him. And I think Kevin
• 1:01:38
  O'Connell and Diji McCarthy are kind of like that, where O'Connell can say that
• 1:01:45
  is the guy that can lead me to the Promised Land. He's just like
• 1:01:46
  me. I also think McCarthy is gonna be slightly more affordable via trade That
• 1:01:52
  can be debated because there seems to be a little bit of a Drake May
• 1:01:55
  slide this week to maybe down to four five, six seven, something like
• 1:01:59
  that. But on the draft board on the whole for the last year,
• 1:02:04
  it's more likely that McCarthy falls the Vikings way. Because McCarthy is so young,
• 1:02:08
  it's probably more likely that he sits and watches behind Darnold for a year,
• 1:02:14
  although it sounds like Drake May might have to do that as well.
• 1:02:16
  And then my final two for McCarthy are Vegas sports books odds makers. They're
• 1:02:22
  telling us point blank with about a plus one hundred money line that McCarthy is
• 1:02:27
  the favorite to go to the Vikings. And no matter how you feel about
• 1:02:30
  gambling or Vegas, they're usually not crazy wrong. And so if you want
• 1:02:37
  to use that as a hint, Vegas is on the side of McCarthy.
• 1:02:39
  And then there's also this caveat of Washington could just end all this bullshit in
• 1:02:44
  draft Drake May. And then we're sitting on a show like this, I
• 1:02:49
  guess right on Draft Night, talking about Jaden Daniels or JJ McCarthy. So
• 1:02:52
  you have that. All of that said, the case is slightly tilted towards
• 1:02:59
  McCarthy because of the relative affordability in a trade. And then that personality thing
• 1:03:04
  that I talked about, So where I've settled is kind of a cliche.
• 1:03:07
  My gut is telling me, Drake may I keep thinking like, this is
• 1:03:12
  the guy I know, Kevin O'Connell wants a pocket passer. This guy has
• 1:03:15
  all the tools. My gut right, you know, deep down, says
• 1:03:20
  Drake Maye. And then my head is saying McCarthy because of the personality similarities,
• 1:03:25
  the chance that he could slide to eight, nine, ten, eleven
• 1:03:29
  or something like that. So on your show, like fifty point one percent
• 1:03:34
  of me, says Drake may I won't be surprised one iota of if it's
• 1:03:37
  McCarthy. But if I had to lock it in on April sixteenth, I'll
• 1:03:42
  say, the Vikings find a way to get Drake may all right. And
• 1:03:47
  I guess you said on a previous appearance that we asked your way too early.
• 1:03:54
  Vikings twenty twenty four season win loss prediction. I think he said this
• 1:04:00
  was before Kirk was gone. You said something like at least ten and seven
• 1:04:05
  with Kirk, probably a ceiling of seven and ten with a rookie slash whoever
• 1:04:12
  they signed as a Bridge quarterback. It was before Sam Donald was hired or
• 1:04:16
  signed, So you think with either of those two that they could, with
• 1:04:20
  the combination of Sam Donald could still maybe etch into that seven win territory.
• 1:04:26
  Yes, And I don't know whether or not that's good. I mean,
• 1:04:30
  who really cares. It's gonna feel a lot like the twenty fourteen season when
• 1:04:33
  Bridgewater started playing yeap where that ended up seven and nine. But it was
• 1:04:39
  a really exciting seven and nine and we were excited about it. If we
• 1:04:42
  would have finished, and we did finished seven and nine any of the last
• 1:04:45
  five years, we would have called the whole season bullshit, fire cousins,
• 1:04:48
  He's not worth it. This will be a different brand of seven and ten.
• 1:04:51
  The reason I do feel the Vikings can get to seven and ten is
• 1:04:55
  I do believe a little bit and Sam Donald being his best self with this
• 1:04:59
  stable of weapons, and then, let's face it, when Kurt got hurt,
• 1:05:02
  they were only four and four, and then thereafter with a hodgepodge of
• 1:05:08
  Josh Jobs and Nick Mullins and Jaren Hall, they found a way to get
• 1:05:12
  to seven and ten. So yeah, unless Donald looks like just some chump
• 1:05:16
  this summer, I really do think the Vikings will end up finishing about seven
• 1:05:20
  and ten. But what we're gonna start doing as soon as we get to
• 1:05:25
  I guess Friday morning, is we're gonna convince ourselves that if it's McCarthy or
• 1:05:29
  May that they're gonna have the Summer of dreams, they're gonna start week one,
• 1:05:32
  then we're gonna have Stroud all over again. I mean, that's what
• 1:05:34
  we're that's what we do. We hope as Vikings fans, uh so yees.
• 1:05:39
  Seven and ten I think is very realistic. And that's mainly because I
• 1:05:42
  trust Brian Flores to run the defense. And if O'Connell gets a full off
• 1:05:46
  season, you know, summer with whoever is the quarterback, I'm pretty sure
• 1:05:50
  that an offense with Jefferson, darrisaw Addison Hockinson when he gets back, Aaron
• 1:05:57
  Jones like Donald can really be unlocked. And if we don't see Donald and
• 1:06:01
  it's Drake May right away, Yeah, seven wins is not really that hard
• 1:06:06
  for the Vikings to get to, and in fact, the Vikings usually get
• 1:06:11
  when they have a bad season, it's usually you know, seven to nine
• 1:06:15
  or eight and eight, that's usually what the Vikings bottom floor is aside from
• 1:06:18
  some real shitty years from like what twenty thirteen or so. Yeah, I
• 1:06:24
  think I saw you. It was either Vikes Now or one Bar or somewhere
• 1:06:28
  else. You were on some some show and you said something like Donald's probably
• 1:06:32
  gonna be your week one starter. Regardless of I've already they drafted. I've
• 1:06:36
  already conceded that I didn't want, and I'm okay with you. I didn't
• 1:06:40
  want any Bridge quarterback. I still don't if they If they tell me,
• 1:06:44
  hey, hey, Dustin Baker, we're gonna go three and fourteen with Drake
• 1:06:46
  may I'd say, let's do it, because that means he's gonna be ready
• 1:06:49
  for twenty twenty five. He's gonna be battle tested. I do not care
• 1:06:53
  give me the first or second pick next draft. Let's do it, baby.
• 1:06:57
  But yeah, I have already conceded that's not the way the Vikings ever
• 1:07:00
  do business. And yeah, I really do think and this is gonna really
• 1:07:04
  get ramped up in my head. By June or so. There will be
• 1:07:08
  a pathway for Sam Darnald to play the best football of his life now,
• 1:07:13
  whether or not that is like outrageously good or just like Baker Mayfield, where
• 1:07:17
  it was good but not elite. I do think that will happen, and
• 1:07:23
  it'll be really It would be a real vikings thing for Donald to be awesome,
• 1:07:29
  like like actually really good, and then we just don't even need Drake
• 1:07:31
  May next year. I mean, I don't think that would matter much because
• 1:07:33
  they're gonna go with May no matter what. But it would be a real
• 1:07:36
  viking Like remember how on all kinds of shows Jefferson got hurt and we just
• 1:07:42
  casually said we're gonna start winning games. Now yep, they won five in
• 1:07:45
  a row. It would be a real vikings thing for every single one of
• 1:07:48
  us to get super excited about McCarthy or May and then Donald comes out,
• 1:07:53
  We're like, holy shit, this this was the guy we thought he was
• 1:07:56
  gonna be five six years ago. Can you image? And if Darnold comes
• 1:08:00
  out looking like Sam Bradford against the Saints in twenty seventeen, like what yep?
• 1:08:05
  And it's really not that far fetched for that to happen. Yeah,
• 1:08:11
  all right, man, Well, thank you so much for coming on.
• 1:08:14
  We really appreciate every minute you give to us. Before we wrap up,
• 1:08:17
  is there anything else you want to plug? I've tried to kind of sprinkle
• 1:08:20
  in some of your other stuff throughout our conversation here. But anything you want
• 1:08:25
  to plug, let our listeners know where they can find you. Anything like
• 1:08:29
  that, not about me on our network on YouTube though. We have all
• 1:08:31
  kinds of little shows springing up. After the flagship, which is the one
• 1:08:35
  I started two years ago, we got Scocial network, and then I'm trying
• 1:08:39
  to get throw A Nystrom to come over and start a show on our network.
• 1:08:42
  He seems open to it, but I haven't. I haven't closed yet.
• 1:08:45
  Yeah, and then we have like they're starting to do the YouTube short
• 1:08:49
  thing and that's kind of fun. So yeah, just our video network.
• 1:08:53
  There's more than just me on there. That's why I'm promoting it. And
• 1:08:56
  why don't I think by the time we talk, if we do the month
• 1:08:59
  from now thing, we'll probably have a schedule to go through, and I
• 1:09:01
  think that'll kill me fun time. So whatever it is, four or five
• 1:09:04
  weeks from today, you guys, light me up, and then we'll talk
• 1:09:08
  about this roster that we'll have and then I probably a schedule looking at us.
• 1:09:13
  All right, Welcome back to skull Hoppers. Evan. I don't know
• 1:09:16
  about you, but I feel like you feel the same way. I love
• 1:09:20
  every single time we get the chance to talk to Dustin Baker. I think
• 1:09:25
  he adds so much to our show. He's obviously very knowledgeable and gives good,
• 1:09:29
  great opinions. I'm just so grateful he's he's willing to come on our
• 1:09:33
  show as much as he is, and it sounds like we might get to
• 1:09:36
  see him some more. So Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree. I
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  always feel like one thousand percent smarter about all things Vikings whenever we talk to
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  him. So yeah, definitely a great addition to our show, and we're
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  humbled and grateful that he's willing to come on our tiny little podcast here.
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  Yeah, and it's really cool be before we actually started recording with him,
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  we kind of chatted with them a little bit beforehand. And he has his
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  YouTube show vikes Now, and he and the other people on vikes Now were
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  able to talk to Paul Allen on his show a week or two ago,
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  and I watched it. I don't know if you watched it listeners, If
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  you get the chance, look up vikes Now and just look up his episode
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  from within the last couple of weeks where he talks to Paul Allen and I
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  told him, maybe I'm fanboying a little bit too much, but like that
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  seems awesome, and he just he had only nice things to say about Paul
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  Allen, and he even said a couple of things behind the scenes kind of
• 1:10:41
  hiccuped. And PA was extremely kind and went above and beyond to be able
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  to be on his show. So obviously, Voice of the Vikings Paul Allen
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  Evan, you and I are now within the six degrees of Paul Allen.
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  So that's pretty cool. Cool, Yeah, and uh man be fun to
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  hang out with Paul Allen sometimes. So the skull Hop has made it.
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  If Pa ever graces his presence on our show, I think I'd cry.
• 1:11:11
  I don't know. Well, I stand by what I said at the beginning
• 1:11:14
  of the episode Open invitation anybody. Absolutely Paul Allen's call of the FARV to
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  Greg Lewis' touchdown game winning touchdown against San Francisco in two thousand and nine.
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  That's my happy place video. Like, if I'm having a bad day,
• 1:11:31
  I probably said this on the show before, but like, if I'm having
• 1:11:34
  a bad day, I pull up that video. It's impossible to not smile
• 1:11:40
  when you watch that video. And hear Paul Allen's voice like, ma,
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  it's god, Greg Lewis, Oh my gosh, good heavens, like it's
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  it's the best feeling I can have. I can bottle that up and have
• 1:11:53
  a good day after that video. You know what else you can bottle up?
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  Oh? Beard? And this is only the second episode. It's due
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  to weather this time, but it's only the second episode that we're featuring two
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  different beers. That's right. We like it back a long ways to do
• 1:12:15
  that. It was it's like episode two. It was episode two we had
• 1:12:19
  two different Reunion Brewery beer yep. And this episode we are featuring two different
• 1:12:27
  breweries and obviously two different beers. But Evan, what did you think of
• 1:12:31
  the single speed Little Dancer, Tiny Dancer, Tiny Dancer. I'm sorry,
• 1:12:36
  single Speed, Tiny Dancer. I've had it a few times. What'd you
• 1:12:40
  think. I really liked it. It's a pale ale. It checks a
• 1:12:45
  lot of the boxes for me. It's not in that amber category. So
• 1:12:49
  that's one thing that I really like. And obviously last episode we got to
• 1:12:54
  try our own school hop hoppy amber American ale, which was really really good.
• 1:13:00
  But this is this is still good and I mean basketball season's over,
• 1:13:06
  there's no more basketball to watch. But I drink this and watch a few
• 1:13:11
  basketball games. That'd be fun. Yeah, I correct me if I'm wrong,
• 1:13:15
  and I'm not drinking that beer right now, you are. That one
• 1:13:18
  has a really good tanginess as far as I Pas goes. It's like a
• 1:13:25
  citrusy and like a nice heavy tanginess, and I like that personally. Some
• 1:13:30
  people may hate that, some people may love it. So if you like
• 1:13:34
  that tangy bite a little bit to an, I p a that that.
• 1:13:39
  That one's a good one. Yeah. But it's not like in your face
• 1:13:42
  either. Yeah. It's very approachable, very drinkable, and I've had a
• 1:13:48
  few now and I like it. Hope hopefully they keep it going. I
• 1:13:51
  know it's a special one just for the March madness obviously here in Iowa where
• 1:13:57
  we got swept up in women's basketball drinking those beers and watching Kitlin Clark.
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  But yeah, hopefully they keep that one going, even if they rename it
• 1:14:05
  or whatever, rebrand it. That's a good beer. What about you,
• 1:14:10
  I know, Evan, have you had it? Did you say earlier if
• 1:14:13
  you've had this one or not? I have not, and I really really
• 1:14:16
  need to try it. Yeah, the Five Cities Brewing. I can never
• 1:14:20
  get the camera right. The Big Boy. That's cool too, it really
• 1:14:27
  is. It's got so so I'm big, a little tangent here me personally,
• 1:14:32
  Like I love to see like nature in an amazing way, Like I
• 1:14:39
  think going to Banff in Canada and seeing the mountains and the lakes and everything
• 1:14:43
  like that would be amazing. I love watching and just looking at just beautiful
• 1:14:47
  things in nature. This can features not only a big Boy like husky dog.
• 1:14:54
  Behind it is what looks to be the Aurora borealis, the north and
• 1:15:00
  lights. Yeah, this this beer just all encompasses deliciousness and amazingness. So
• 1:15:05
  it's a it's a eight percent hazy I pa. I like it a lot.
• 1:15:12
  I've had it quite a bit. Five Cities really hit a home run
• 1:15:15
  on this one, Evan. We need to share some of these together,
• 1:15:19
  agreed, and we need to have a business meeting again. So yeah,
• 1:15:24
  so Five Cities, if you're listening, we definitely take We take a nice
• 1:15:30
  fresh pour of the Big Boy, even even a crack of a can,
• 1:15:35
  even an old can, like, we take it. It's that good.
• 1:15:39
  So we're not picky, not at all. All Right, Well, really
• 1:15:44
  good episode. I had a lot of fun guessing beers with you. That
• 1:15:47
  was kind of fun. And I think we've even got some good ideas for
• 1:15:53
  some more ways that we can kind of incorporate some of that and keep things
• 1:15:59
  interesting and not just you know, keep bringing in beer after beer, but
• 1:16:04
  bring in some more content with that as well. But then also a really
• 1:16:09
  really good conversation with Dustin. We're less than ten days away from the draft
• 1:16:14
  now, and it's a big draft for the Vikings organization. It's gonna Yeah,
• 1:16:19
  that's an understatement if I've ever heard one. Yeah, yeah, it
• 1:16:23
  will definitely dictate a lot of what happens in the future for our favorite team.
• 1:16:29
  So yeah, I'm cited for it, and I know you are too,
• 1:16:30
  And I think all Vikings fans everywhere we're just kind of sitting on pins
• 1:16:34
  and needles, waiting for waiting for next Thursday night. So yep. So
• 1:16:40
  yeah, Vikings fans, definitely check out Dustin Baker at dust Baker, on
• 1:16:45
  Twitter, vikes at vikes now, and on YouTube search fikes now. He's
• 1:16:50
  got a lot of good content. Check us out everywhere you can find us.
• 1:16:56
  I mean, we're everywhere. If you just google the Skull Hop,
• 1:17:00
  you'll find our Twitter, you'll find our Facebook, you'll find YouTube and Spotify
• 1:17:05
  and Apple and even read it if you really dig hard enough. We're everywhere.
• 1:17:11
  And keep your eyes peeled, because I think we've got some We're building
• 1:17:15
  up some good content for this skull Hot beer that we made, probably like
• 1:17:20
  some version of a YouTube video. We're planning a special like in person tapping
• 1:17:28
  just you know, like with with Evan and I and maybe our families and
• 1:17:30
  stuff. But that content might show up in some kind of a YouTube video
• 1:17:33
  too, So yeah, keep your eyes peeled. We're everywhere, and we'd
• 1:17:38
  love to hear from you. Yeah, give us a shout out. Yeah,
• 1:17:44
  all right, Well this is kind of weird to do this virtually,
• 1:17:49
  but yeah, we have we ever done this virtually? Have we ever scolled
• 1:17:54
  virtually? We've never scolled virtually. So here's to the first virtual scholl and
• 1:18:01
  until next time. School School Hey Vikings fans. Evan here from the School
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  Hop, and we just wanted to say thank you again so much for listening
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