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- 0:00Happy Halloween. It's the final day of Horror
- 0:03Month. Kathy's favorite day of the year. I look
- 0:07forward to it every year since we started this
- 0:09podcast. Don't forget about Scary Christmas.
- 0:14Thank you for coming back for a special Halloween
- 0:17episode of Free Prayer Reviews. My name is Leah.
- 0:22My name is Kathy. We are two friends who are
- 0:26here to replay, review, and analyze your favorite
- 0:30video games. And since Kathy has never seen the
- 0:34games before, it helps me view them through her
- 0:36fresh eyes. Almost like I'm discovering them
- 0:39again for the first time. I hope I'll be a similar
- 0:45experience for you. Should we just start in on
- 0:51topic one then? Mm -hmm. It is the alternate
- 0:55ending. I thought there were two, but one of
- 0:58them is a legend. Did you watch the second ending,
- 1:03the emergency stop video? What did you think?
- 1:07I think it's pretty good. I'm okay with it. I
- 1:12think if I was in those shoes, I wouldn't be
- 1:17surprised if I chose that just because I can't
- 1:21justify killing a whole plane of people to save
- 1:24my child who is already potentially going to
- 1:28be a monster i do think it's a bit too dramatic
- 1:32with needing to light the picture your only picture
- 1:35of timmy on fire thank you that was my problem
- 1:38so yeah we hit that emergency stop button and
- 1:42then we pop out somewhere on the mountain and
- 1:44we see the plane fly by but then yes he pulls
- 1:48out the picture of timmy and burns it why I mean,
- 1:53is this just like a little funeral for him? Like
- 1:56you could go back and get his body and bury him.
- 1:59That's something I don't understand, too, is
- 2:01that if you knew there's no way to survive, why
- 2:04did you continue to exit the cave? I wonder if
- 2:07it's if it's possible to go back to grab Timmy's
- 2:10body. I don't know, because you can I mean, you
- 2:12can just go through that route again. I'm pretty
- 2:14sure I've never done that ending. So maybe it
- 2:18closes off access. But still. Do we know if the
- 2:24game just cuts straight into end credits, or
- 2:27do you think that they stay on the island forever
- 2:30and just die? So I think it probably shows end
- 2:34credits, but then after that, you're just back
- 2:36to free roam, continuing to survive on the island
- 2:39as I did for 100 days. And then here's the ending
- 2:43I thought existed. So in the survival guide,
- 2:47there's an SOS signal that you can build. And
- 2:51when you build it, it apparently triggers a plane
- 2:53to fly overhead. But as far as I found, no one
- 2:57has actually been rescued by using it. So I thought
- 3:00you could actually signal for help and get rescued
- 3:03and get off the island. Even if you did shoot
- 3:06the plane down, well, you didn't shoot it, but
- 3:09if the plane did crash and you saved Timmy, we
- 3:11still don't see how they escaped the island.
- 3:14So how? I feel like it's either... You take the
- 3:19yacht or you signal for help. However you get
- 3:21off the island that we don't see in the Save
- 3:25Timmy ending should be how we get off the island
- 3:27in this case too. Should we just roll into burning
- 3:30questions on topic two? My first one is the red
- 3:35paint. Can't get over the red paint. Yeah. I
- 3:38have a feeling we probably found kind of the
- 3:40same thing because I just googled it. But it
- 3:44says that... Putting the red paint on makes the
- 3:46cannibals act passively. They'll stare, step
- 3:48back. They say that this is because of a deep
- 3:52-seated fear response to the color red, which
- 3:54stems from a backstory of Dr. Matthew Cross,
- 3:57the red man, who is seen in red paint and is
- 4:01a figure of fear for the cannibals. The red paint
- 4:04is how he traveled safely across the island,
- 4:07which makes sense. You would need a way to deal
- 4:08with the cannibals. And that makes me think that
- 4:10they've been here all along, which I'll get into
- 4:12more. and then they continue to say it can be
- 4:16deduced that sahara fear conditioned red into
- 4:18the cannibals making them associate the color
- 4:20with pain or death or something else unpleasant
- 4:23or perhaps something pleasant such as rewards
- 4:25for kneeling instantly if we keep crashing we
- 4:29if they keep crashing flights and it kills everyone
- 4:34but the children how are there humans to be tested
- 4:38on unless the artifact isn't killing the entire
- 4:41plane and they take any survivors in well that's
- 4:45why i lean towards the cannibals have always
- 4:47been here it just seems like a leap to me that
- 4:50the survivors of these plant the adult survivors
- 4:52of the plane crashes all turn into these cannibals
- 4:56that like seem to have their own society and
- 4:59way of living and i just find that that is hard
- 5:02to believe and i think that all of the depth
- 5:04to that society is proof of like a longer running
- 5:08development of that you know So I don't really
- 5:11buy that they created the cannibals. I do think
- 5:14that they tested on them and did the fear therapy,
- 5:17whatever. I'm not quite also getting the concept
- 5:21of the cannibals. There's a finite amount of
- 5:24cannibals on the island. Don't they die? What
- 5:27happens? Because if they already existed here,
- 5:30wouldn't some of them have died off? There's
- 5:32only so many cannibals to eat, right? Well, and
- 5:36that's another issue I have with this. Where's
- 5:40their food source coming from? Is it the crashed
- 5:43planes? I mean, I lived on this island for over
- 5:46100 days, and I saw no other humans, but I did
- 5:51see a lot of animals. So I'm like, what leads
- 5:54these people to be cannibals? Because opportunity
- 5:57is not knocking to eat human flesh. Well, my
- 6:03last burning question is just, why does nobody
- 6:05come to the island? And I couldn't really find
- 6:08anything on this. It seems like people are not
- 6:11asking this question. But it remains my biggest
- 6:14question because I just don't think that there's
- 6:17any way a corporation of any size can continue
- 6:20to shoot down what I assume are commercial flights
- 6:23and avoid detection. or bribe officials to turn
- 6:28the other way. I'm sorry, that's just not going
- 6:29to happen. And aren't there any questions about
- 6:33what this company is doing? Why are they buying
- 6:35so much red paint? Why do they need all this
- 6:38equipment? How? And there would be so much pressure
- 6:41from the families of these lost people. So I
- 6:46don't know. And I don't know why more people
- 6:47are asking that question. I think it's maybe
- 6:49just an oversight in the game where they just
- 6:51didn't bother explaining it. How does the artifact
- 6:54ensure those kids that are the targets stay alive
- 6:58during the plane crash? Maybe the energy wave
- 7:03that it sends out leads to a gentler crash. You
- 7:07know what I mean? Yeah. But that also begs the
- 7:09question, what the hell is this artifact for?
- 7:11I don't think they built it. I think they found
- 7:14it. And do you just discover that it can knock
- 7:18planes out of the sky? I find that hard to believe,
- 7:20too. That's my question, is just... How did they
- 7:23figure out how does this artifact work and that
- 7:27it could revive someone from dying? It makes
- 7:31no sense how they come to this type of conclusion
- 7:34that they're going to build an entire facility
- 7:36around this island and recruit people into doing
- 7:39this and not get caught. It just doesn't make
- 7:42sense to me. And that's my biggest issue with
- 7:45this game. It has a lot of questions. Where it's
- 7:49like, if it were Outlast... We'd be able to find
- 7:52the answers if we looked and theorized hard enough.
- 7:55But in this game, you just can't. And I wish
- 7:59that we could. And even if it's not like a black
- 8:01and white answer, we could have enough information
- 8:04to form our own theories. But there just is so
- 8:07much information missing. Which is fine. I just
- 8:10think it would add a lot of depth to the game.
- 8:14Which I think brings us to our third topic, a
- 8:17full theory. Yeah. I thought I had a lot of questions.
- 8:21I'm looking at it. I've moved it all up into
- 8:23burning questions. So I'm just going to stick
- 8:24with what I know, which is bullet point listing.
- 8:28Megan Cross is sick. Matthew Cross then becomes
- 8:31obsessed with finding a gear. And then he somehow
- 8:34finds the artifact that either he finds it and
- 8:37recruits Sahara Therapeutics to do it. Sahara
- 8:40Therapeutics has the artifact and he somehow
- 8:43finds out and works for them. Or he creates Sahara
- 8:47Deserts. what I'm saying Sahara Therapeutics
- 8:51muscle memory filled in that one for you Sahara
- 8:54Therapeutics to use their resources to somehow
- 9:01make the artifact work I'm not quite sure either
- 9:04way the two become like into a partnership they
- 9:09crash a lot of planes they kidnap a lot of kids
- 9:11and humans One of the flights then has us as
- 9:15the main character and Timmy, and then we know
- 9:17what goes on since then. Yeah. I don't have a
- 9:22whole lot either. This is all just what I think,
- 9:24based off of what I've learned and researched.
- 9:27So, I think the cannibals were the original inhabitants
- 9:31of this island. I think missionaries came to
- 9:35the island to try to make contact with the cannibals,
- 9:37based on what we see in the caves and the apparent
- 9:39age of the items we find. I think that the missionaries
- 9:44and the cannibals both knew about the artifacts
- 9:47and maybe the powers of the artifacts. Some of
- 9:50the missionaries were able to leave the island
- 9:51and others were not. The idea of these artifacts
- 9:56was leaked, or not leaked, but brought to light
- 9:59by the missionaries. And not only Dr. Cross learns
- 10:03about it, but others do as well, which is why
- 10:05we see the newer backpacking type orange tents
- 10:08as people came to investigate the myths. Dr.
- 10:12Cross eventually convinces Sahara to purchase
- 10:15the island, where they tame the cannibals, build
- 10:17their facility, locate the artifacts, and begin
- 10:20testing, blasting down planes all the while.
- 10:23Yeah. I miss having a game where we can really
- 10:26theorize about it, kind of like I said, and I
- 10:29feel like we got real close with this one, but
- 10:32there's just a little bit missing in terms of,
- 10:34like, backstory clues. I like it, too, because
- 10:38it's... something that we can get enough meat
- 10:43and just some extra where we're like okay i have
- 10:47questions but it's not enough to distract me
- 10:49from the main storyline yeah it's a bit better
- 10:52than having massive plot holes and heavy rain
- 10:56i agree it's a good game i really enjoy playing
- 10:59this game a lot are there a few issues sure but
- 11:03the issues are like they're fine the storyline
- 11:06is good Anything else on theories or should we
- 11:09move into KFC? Let's do KFCs. This is a crappy
- 11:16one, honestly. This is going to be interesting
- 11:19because there's like nobody in this game. I'm
- 11:22just going to go right into it. KFC, Kathy's
- 11:25favorite characters. Let's start with the first
- 11:27category, which is Stale Biscuit. Again, not
- 11:30a lot of people. I don't know if you want to
- 11:33give it a shot. I'm going to guess. to me no
- 11:39i mean i i could have but i just put the host
- 11:43at the end of the game i thought you'd hate him
- 11:47more than being stale so i didn't want to say
- 11:49him i mean he could have been in the trash category
- 11:51but the trash was reserved for something else
- 11:54for trash i think it's quite safe to say icky
- 11:57babies thank you overflowing with the abundant
- 12:03amount of icky babies i hate those things so
- 12:07much and other thing too is the the flesh like
- 12:10the room full of flesh it's not really like trash
- 12:13but i just didn't like that no it's pretty gross
- 12:16yep there's a little arm sticking out here a
- 12:19little belly button maybe a nipple things you
- 12:21see in that room are not okay i can't imagine
- 12:24how it smells i imagine like well stink but like
- 12:30some formaldehyde kind of smell too you know
- 12:32like some nasty chemicals that mix with just
- 12:35rot and like flesh so i had the delusion of thinking
- 12:41i wanted to do like x -ray technician oh yeah
- 12:46i remember and so that meant like not medical
- 12:50school but like medical programs right so i took
- 12:53health sciences in high school yeah cadavers
- 12:58do not smell good. And I hung on for a long time.
- 13:02I even started taking some classes in college
- 13:04for that. And it wasn't until, I can't say too
- 13:08much because suits had to come into the hospital
- 13:11and it was a legal issue that I witnessed. What?
- 13:15Wait, how did we never go to deep dive about
- 13:18this in our own spare time? I'll just say a patient
- 13:23was somewhere where they weren't supposed to
- 13:24be and had a seizure. And no one noticed. What?
- 13:29And so it was a whole big thing. And I was just
- 13:31there for a job shadow. Leah, how did we not
- 13:34talk about this before? And then, okay, so I
- 13:38was medical imaging is what I was job shadowing
- 13:41for. And one of those was like an ultrasound
- 13:43appointment. And so I kept being in the room
- 13:46and the person would be like, oh, this is a student.
- 13:49Can they watch? Blah, blah, blah. But they forgot
- 13:51to introduce me one of the times. And I'm like.
- 13:55like it was a big room i'm 12 feet away it's
- 13:58dark because they have to look at the screen
- 14:00for the imaging right just sitting in the corner
- 14:03uncomfortable i don't know what to do i don't
- 14:06know what to say it's this family like two little
- 14:10kids mom and dad they're ultrasounding her baby
- 14:14tummy and then like in the middle of it the dad
- 14:18looks up at me like looks looks around at the
- 14:25at the technician and is like, who's that? And
- 14:30I'm just like, god damn it. I f***ing hate my
- 14:35life. And it was Halloween and I just wanted
- 14:37to go home and eat candy and change my major.
- 14:41I'm crying. Oh my goodness, Leah. Literally crying.
- 14:44This children is why you go to community college
- 14:48first. Thank god I went to community college.
- 14:53Imagine your eyes and your teeth are glowing
- 14:56in the dark as the dad makes eye contact. Oh
- 15:00my god. That was the most uncomfortable thing
- 15:04I've ever experienced. I just need to see the
- 15:06reactions. Oh my goodness. I'm crying. Well,
- 15:10I think we just went a little too far off topic.
- 15:14Let's reel it in. Where were we? KFC. Post game
- 15:18KFC. Okay, this is something that... I go back
- 15:22and forth on. I don't know if the main character
- 15:25should have revived Timmy back to life knowing
- 15:27that it's going to put him into more pain. So
- 15:30I feel like in theory I should be saying the
- 15:33main character but no. And then you have Timmy
- 15:38where why does he need to explore more and reopen
- 15:41Pandora's box? So I'm going to be very strategic
- 15:45about who I choose and it's going to be Jessica
- 15:47Cross which is Megan Cross's mom because she
- 15:51filed a restraining order against Matthew Cross
- 15:54and I feel like that's the only sensible woman
- 15:57in this game or human my favorite character is
- 16:03oh my god I was not expecting that oh my god
- 16:11my favorite character is whichever mutant or
- 16:14cannibal makes that laugh noise I'm speechless.
- 16:21Postgame KS. Kentucky Scorcher. Most visually
- 16:25appealing. I'm going to use my no one pass this
- 16:30time. See, I just listened to an episode where
- 16:33I told you you were never allowed to not pick
- 16:36anyone ever again. What? When was this? I think
- 16:40it was out last. Per season. Per season. It has
- 16:42to be per season. There are only three options
- 16:46I could find. I wasn't going to give you the
- 16:47mutants because that's just crap. So I gave you
- 16:51Eric. I gave you Matthew Cross, who's bald, topless,
- 16:58wearing, like, board shorts and covered in red
- 17:02paint, except for his teeth. You should see my
- 17:04face right now. And then I gave you the TV host,
- 17:07which is the greatest picture I have ever provided.
- 17:14So let me read to you what you responded. First
- 17:17of all, what the f*** is wrong with the middle
- 17:20dude? Why is he all red and looking like those
- 17:23human muscle models in our health class? Like,
- 17:25he has no hair, so unless he's bald and someone
- 17:28dumped red paint all over him, what is going
- 17:30on? I mean, that's kind of what's happening,
- 17:33except he voluntarily dumped the paint on himself.
- 17:37As for the last guy, that's the TV host, why
- 17:41is he so creepy? Where are his pupils? Why are
- 17:44his eyeballs only white? I think we can chalk
- 17:48that up to the photo quality. Okay. Except he
- 17:51is kind of creepy. You leave me no choice but
- 17:54to pick the first guy. Although he looks like
- 17:56the size of an elementary student wearing a backpack.
- 18:00If you ignore the beard. I need to see the photos.
- 18:04His head is shockingly large, to be fair. It
- 18:08is shockingly large. Here you go. Oh, my God.
- 18:13I guess we did. No, we saw a picture of him on
- 18:15the magazine cover. I need to Google. So you
- 18:18could pick him if you want. I'll choose him.
- 18:23Or maybe the pilot. Maybe the dead pilot. Oh.
- 18:27Oh, yeah. Pilot the forest. Oh, no. Let me see
- 18:34this picture. Oh. Not that bad compared to. Genuine
- 18:40interest. in that oh show can i should i change
- 18:45my answer the pilot is an option yeah we i choose
- 18:49the pilot i didn't track stats this time because
- 18:54i had to edit like 25 gameplay videos to get
- 18:57this done and i was like i can't i can't do this
- 19:01so sorry to disappoint you you could attract
- 19:04how many arms there were no I'm just trying to
- 19:09understand why you said that. No, no. Because
- 19:11of Armsy? Yeah, I guess. I mean, if you were
- 19:14to track stats, that's something I would have
- 19:16guessed as one of the things you would have done.
- 19:20Let's just cut that out. Okay. I'm so sleep deprived.
- 19:25I just want to go to sleep right now. Okay. Well,
- 19:29in lieu of stats. special message happy halloween
- 19:34from us to you stay safe eat candy don't do drugs
- 19:38don't take whatever that tv host was on no one
- 19:44needs that much energy and if anyone ever acts
- 19:47that interested in you run away yeah because
- 19:49no um wow every sentence we start just gets carried
- 19:55away doesn't it yeah i have so many follow -up
- 19:57questions i'm trying my best to not start a new
- 20:00conversation i think we just have to call it
- 20:03yeah all right okay thanks for listening we'll
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