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Ohio State Football Insider: 3 Storylines To Watch On Defense For Fall Camp · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, August sixth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom or the Ball State game in
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  Speaker 1: all right, today is the start of fall camp for
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Yes, it is finally here, which means the
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  Speaker 1: season really right around the corner. You heard at the
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  Speaker 1: start of the show. How many days away the Ball
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  Speaker 1: State game is just thirty We're getting there. And welcome
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  Speaker 1: in our buddy Tony Gerderman at Buckeye Insiders dot com
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  Speaker 1: to talk about three storylines that we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: watching on the defensive side of the ball this fall.
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  Speaker 1: And Tony, I think the first one that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you about was the defensive ends because
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  Speaker 1: it feels like this is a real could be a
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  Speaker 1: you know, could be a huge pleasant surprise for Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State could be a spot where you see a little
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  Speaker 1: bit a drop off from last year and what you
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  Speaker 1: see from Ohio States defensive ends this fall could go
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  Speaker 1: a long way towards determining what does the defense really
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  Speaker 1: look like this fall?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, And I it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 2: how many are on the field at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: We know in that penny front they've got five guys
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  Speaker 2: on the line. Sometimes that fifth guy can be a
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  Speaker 2: stand up linebacker like an RVL Reese.
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  Speaker 1: Don't say anything else about that because guess what, you're
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  Speaker 1: never going to guess what my second storyline to watch
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  Speaker 1: is going to be. But don't say any more about
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  Speaker 1: that right now.
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  Speaker 2: I understood strike it from the record. No, But like,
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  Speaker 2: could we see like Kenyada Jackson played a lot of
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  Speaker 2: three technique last year in that alignment. Could that be
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  Speaker 2: bo Atkinson this year? Could still be Kenyada Jackson? And
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  Speaker 2: could there be two other defensive ends out there as well?
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  Speaker 2: Because there are a number of different body types that
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  Speaker 2: they can use to get out there. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: Quay Rusa, for instance, could be that stand up kind
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  Speaker 2: of guy. And not not that he's funny. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying he's a clown, but there are a number off
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  Speaker 2: options that they have, and so that's one of very
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  Speaker 2: interested to see because we know they've done well in recruiting,
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  Speaker 2: they've done well in developing generally, but now they've got
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  Speaker 2: some young guys that they need to rely on and
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  Speaker 2: some new guys that they need to rely on. So
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  Speaker 2: what does that look like? And you know, they've had
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  Speaker 2: such veterans over the past few years, when you've got
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  Speaker 2: ken YadA Jackson, Kin Curry is basically the backups for
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  Speaker 2: like three years for guys who are three year starters,
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  Speaker 2: and there just wasn't much else there, and now there
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  Speaker 2: are more bodies and more guys have to step up,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, Kenyada Jackson is going to be simultaneously
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  Speaker 2: passing the torch while carrying it into battle as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like there's a lot of potential answers there,
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  Speaker 1: but no sure things other than Kenyatta Jackson, who feels
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  Speaker 1: like he's about as sure of a thing as you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have there other than him. Yeah, it feels
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  Speaker 1: like there's just sort of a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of question marks and they're hoping to turn those into
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  Speaker 1: exclamation points, but we will have to see so as
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  Speaker 1: you so you know, wisely foreshadowed their second storyline to
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  Speaker 1: watch the alignment of the defensive line, and you talked
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  Speaker 1: about it in terms of some of the defensive ends
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  Speaker 1: and some of the stuff. I also am kind of
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  Speaker 1: looking at the interior that defensive line where you when
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  Speaker 1: we were sort of going through stuff during the transfer
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  Speaker 1: portal portion of the season, we said, Okay, James Smith
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  Speaker 1: and Edwick Houston, those are gonna be your three texts.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got John John yep from UCF. Walker, yes,
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  Speaker 1: John Walker from UCF, and and you've got Will Smith,
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  Speaker 1: and those are gonna be your nose tackles. And then
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  Speaker 1: as the spring went along, it was like, no, not necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe James Smith can play some nose. Maybe you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: see James Smith and Edward Houston next to each other.
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  Speaker 1: You could see three guys potentially, you know, of your
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  Speaker 1: interior guys playing together at the same time. I think
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  Speaker 1: the different and you know that on top of having
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  Speaker 1: defensive ends, who go you know, basically from Kwai Russol,
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  Speaker 1: who's you know, kind of a little halfway between the
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  Speaker 1: linebacker and a defensive end. Up to like a Kenyata
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  Speaker 1: Jackson or bo Atkinson. It just feels like there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different possibilities to mix a match.
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  Speaker 2: There certainly there are. And it was interesting because John
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  Speaker 2: Walker comes in and you just assume he's the nose tackle.
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  Speaker 2: James Smith comes in, you assume he's a three tech.
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  Speaker 2: And then we get like the spring heights and weights,
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  Speaker 2: and John Walker was down about twenty pounds and James
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  Speaker 2: Smith is up about fifteen. And now you've got Smith
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  Speaker 2: being heavier than Walker. You've got Will Smith, who's played
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  Speaker 2: nose tackle, checking in about two hundred and ninety two pounds,
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  Speaker 2: which is about where Edward Houston checks in. And we
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  Speaker 2: know that Larry Johnson likes to put in lighter, quicker
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  Speaker 2: nose tackles, has no issue doing that. We've seen it
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  Speaker 2: with Michael Hall and Robert Landers and of course Will Smith.
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  Speaker 2: And yet you you get somebody like Kid McDonald and
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  Speaker 2: who is a true nose tackle. Yeah, go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: put him in there because he's disruptive. So it was
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see James Smith get so much time at
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  Speaker 2: nose and say he's learning both. And if you're doing that,
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  Speaker 2: there's interest in putting Edward Houston and James Smith on
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  Speaker 2: the field together, and we know that they can do
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  Speaker 2: that with the Penny front or even in just a
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  Speaker 2: basic foreman front. You can have them side by side,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's an intriguing look and makes them
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  Speaker 2: overall deeper as well when you've got somebody with that
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  Speaker 2: kind of versatility. But you know, John Walker has the
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  Speaker 2: same kind of versatility. He was working at both and
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  Speaker 2: so you can mix and match there. But yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: with you, And then what does that look like in
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  Speaker 2: the Penny front? Is is John Walker or Will Smith
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  Speaker 2: and the nose while you've got James Smith and Edward
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  Speaker 2: Houston as the three tacks. There's a bunch of different
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  Speaker 2: things that they can do, which, boy, if you tell
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  Speaker 2: Matt hey, there's a bunch of different things you can
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  Speaker 2: do with all of these different talented players, He's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, let's do that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We always talk about how Matt Patricia is just seemingly
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  Speaker 1: always in a great mood, and then you look around
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  Speaker 1: the defensive position groups and it's like, yeah, okay, I
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  Speaker 1: get it, Like I understand why you're always in a
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  Speaker 1: good mood. If with these guys to work with the
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  Speaker 1: next question and the third question and final question that
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  Speaker 1: I have going into the sprit going into the fall
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  Speaker 1: for Ohio State is the linebacker group. And this is
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  Speaker 1: one where you've got lots of possibilities. You've got lots
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  Speaker 1: of talented players. I think Peyton Pierce is about a
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  Speaker 1: sure thing because you've seen him do it at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of the surest thing probably they have in
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  Speaker 1: that linebacker room. And then you got the really talented
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  Speaker 1: guy in Christian alegro who transferred in. And you've got
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  Speaker 1: the two guys who were true freshman last year who
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  Speaker 1: feel like they should be ready to take the next
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  Speaker 1: step in Riley Petty John and tj. Alford. You've got
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of talent in that room. But just how
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  Speaker 1: is that going to get divided up? How is that
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  Speaker 1: playing time getting divided up? And sort of related to
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  Speaker 1: the last two things we talked about. If they're changing,
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  Speaker 1: then you know you're not just playing your typical four
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  Speaker 1: down defensive line all the time. What does that do
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  Speaker 1: to how many linebackers are playing and what kind of
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  Speaker 1: things they're asking their linebackers to do, because that'll determine
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  Speaker 1: which guys are on the.
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  Speaker 2: Field exactly, and what linebackers are capable of doing. Some
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  Speaker 2: of that sam stuff that Arvel Reese did on the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, some of the stuff that we saw
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  Speaker 2: Christin Olegro do at Wisconsin as well, But yet both
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  Speaker 2: of those guys could also play will linebacker next to
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  Speaker 2: the middle linebacker off the ball. So who do they
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  Speaker 2: have that can do that we saw, you know, TG
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  Speaker 2: Alfred did some of it in the spring. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's just part of the learning process. Who knows how
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  Speaker 2: much he's going to be there, But what I'll be
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  Speaker 2: watching the first three days as much as I can
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  Speaker 2: is to see what Riley Petty John is doing and
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  Speaker 2: how much off the ball, how much on the ball
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  Speaker 2: is he? Is he on the ball at all, like
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  Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage at all, or is he
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  Speaker 2: strictly off the ball? And I think that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be one of the interesting things to just keep an
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  Speaker 2: eye on is who can play multiple spots, Which means
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  Speaker 2: if you can play multiple spots, then you can be
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  Speaker 2: out there in a three linebacker look, regardless of who
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  Speaker 2: else is out there with you. So if you're limited
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  Speaker 2: and you can only be a will, then you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: come out at times. But if you could be a
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  Speaker 2: Will and a Sam, then you've got opportunity to play
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  Speaker 2: on every snap. So that's one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: I'll be watching. And you know, nobody is as big
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  Speaker 2: as Rvel Reice other than Christian Allegro, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to see if those guys, if they still kind of
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  Speaker 2: put them in that role in which they probably will
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  Speaker 2: the first three days just to find out what, you know,
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  Speaker 2: could they need And they need to know how much
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  Speaker 2: Riley Petty John can do. And they're gonna find out
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  Speaker 2: as much as they can in the first five to
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  Speaker 2: ten practices.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. Three storylines we're gonna be watching
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  Speaker 1: on defense as the Ohistate Buckeyes open fall camp on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: The team from Buckeye Insiders will be there Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: three full days of practice. It'd be a lot to learn,
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  Speaker 1: a lot to see, and a lot to tell you
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  Speaker 1: guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll
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