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Under the Kilt · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast with our radio. Hey guys, my
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  Speaker 1: name is Ben and I am loved by everybody. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I love that. No, do you get it? And I'm
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  Speaker 1: love I'm then I am loved by everybody. Come on, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: is it something that Luke p said? Yeah, everybody, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to another week of the Almost Famous Podcast. Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: have the sniffles um right now. It's not because I'm sick,
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  Speaker 1: It's because I've been out from my rose bushes all morning,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, they're pretty nice right now, they're looking really beautiful. Actually, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: do you mind posting the picture I just sent you
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  Speaker 1: of my rose to the almost famous Facebook group. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get the text for some reason. Mark and
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  Speaker 1: Easton and here got this text and it's a photo
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  Speaker 1: of Ben's roses, his rose bush in his front yard,
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  Speaker 1: backyard flourishing. And I'm like, I was like, if anyone
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  Speaker 1: in the world has he flourishing rosebush tree or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it would be Ben Higgins. Like he sings to roses,
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  Speaker 1: he represents all roses. Of course, they're like, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: have to be at our very best for him. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and like Easton said, it's a really nice bush, really
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  Speaker 1: nice actually off that group text band. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: she didn't get it. I just sent it to because
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  Speaker 1: I'm a real friend. They are beautiful, they really are.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever cut them? Um? Yeah, you got a
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  Speaker 1: trium at the beginning of the year. I like to
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  Speaker 1: trumum back. But you put them in a vase vase
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, definitely. Once they're ready, they start blooming.
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  Speaker 1: I have one upfront that's called the Neil Diamond. That's
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  Speaker 1: the rose and it's a pink and white mixture. It's
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  Speaker 1: a hybrid. I have them in the back. They're are
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  Speaker 1: just natural, just roses. But you can tell me a secret.
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  Speaker 1: But I have follow up questions okay, okay, questions before
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  Speaker 1: I share the secrets, because I want to ease I.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many secrets I want to actually
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  Speaker 1: share because I know there's people out there competing against
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  Speaker 1: my roses. Um, And I think this is a great
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  Speaker 1: way to start a podcast to talk about roses. So actually,
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  Speaker 1: what's your questions? Um? Is the true Is the type
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  Speaker 1: of rose really called a Neil Diamond? Yeah? Why is
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  Speaker 1: it named after Neil Diamond? That's a good question. I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't know the like backstory, but it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a white and pink mixture. It's beautiful. They bloom
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  Speaker 1: real big, um and and robust. I would call him interesting, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then secondly, have you ever put these roses in
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  Speaker 1: a vase or taken a single one and given it
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  Speaker 1: to Jessica? But like, do you guys like incorporate roses
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  Speaker 1: into your your relationship? Um? Not yet because I met
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  Speaker 1: her in November and roses are just now blooming. So
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  Speaker 1: you have a decision to make. Yeah, so she's gonna
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  Speaker 1: get some roses. Uh. Right now I'm competing my mom
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  Speaker 1: Alsto has some roses at her house, and uh we
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  Speaker 1: send pictures back and forth of which who has the
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  Speaker 1: most robust roses. The real secret, though, Ashley, is rose
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  Speaker 1: really like to be in the sun at least six
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  Speaker 1: hours a day, and so it's important that you find
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  Speaker 1: a place that is. Roses are pretty sturdy, so you
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  Speaker 1: can put them in in pretty tough oil. They can
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  Speaker 1: get pretty hot and warm. You want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: they get water, just like everything else in life, but
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  Speaker 1: you really want six hours of sunlight, um to really
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  Speaker 1: make those things explode. And here's the secret, here's the
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  Speaker 1: one that really makes my world spin. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's good or not. I know, Mark Niece and
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  Speaker 1: every doubt there listening is super intrigued by what I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to say next. But um, I take my old
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  Speaker 1: coffee grounds I've heard this, and I put them around
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  Speaker 1: my rose bushes so that it holds in moisture. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the coffee grounds just add a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of like a nutrient to the rose bush that has
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  Speaker 1: made them explode this year. Can we just talk about
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  Speaker 1: the fact that you have now joined your two major
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  Speaker 1: things in life coffee with Jennifer's coffee with roses, and
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  Speaker 1: you've made beautiful, big, luscious roses from them. Oh it's so,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give me, but I'm a little bit stuffy
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  Speaker 1: because I got allergies and so if you hear me
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  Speaker 1: sniffling or blow my nose, guys, deal with me. I apologize,
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  Speaker 1: But I could not miss the opportunity to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you all about this week's episode. Ashley, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think should we dive in? I mean, our episodes have
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  Speaker 1: been running so long recently that I think I think
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  Speaker 1: we just have to dive in talking about the batchlor
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  Speaker 1: from the very beginning, because I feel like this week
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  Speaker 1: has a lot to talk about. All Right, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go in chronological order. We've been so bad with
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  Speaker 1: like jumping around, So you go, you start, you start
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  Speaker 1: us off. So we ended last week's episode with Luke
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  Speaker 1: P and Luke S. The feud between the two, we
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  Speaker 1: call it uh putting up the Luke's is is what
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  Speaker 1: I think are good title um, and I think Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: I could in summary last week said that we weren't
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  Speaker 1: a massive fan how either of the men handled the situation.
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  Speaker 1: We thought they both skirt around issues. We thought that
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  Speaker 1: Luke P definitely manipulated the situation. We thought that Lucas I, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I should say this for myself. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: handed like a child a little bit. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was kind of running to Hannah for help, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's the best way to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And I also thought that Luke s never fully said down,
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  Speaker 1: never fully confronted it with Luke P in an adult way.
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  Speaker 1: So I wasn't a fan of how anybody stood it. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I also talked about talked about last week how this
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  Speaker 1: loop P situation was getting ugly from a standpoint of
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  Speaker 1: of long lasting issues coming from the show, meaning that
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  Speaker 1: Luke P's character was being so much in question that
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  Speaker 1: we we want to try to hesitate from saying anything
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  Speaker 1: negative about him. We've said enough that's hurtful. Probably, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure if he listened to the podcast, he wouldn't love
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  Speaker 1: what we said. We wanted to because at that point
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  Speaker 1: we thought there was gonna be a redemption story. I
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  Speaker 1: definitely did because I was like, this guy's a front runner.
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  Speaker 1: I think like they're gonna not like him for like
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  Speaker 1: an episode or two, which is actually quite common if
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  Speaker 1: you look back on like Bachelor history, there's like sometimes
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  Speaker 1: villains that come out early on that turned out to
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  Speaker 1: not be villains at all, and I problem, I felt
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  Speaker 1: like he was going to be one of those, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it anymore. And so yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: I think we both now agree talking on the podcast
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  Speaker 1: and offline, that it's once that kind of became clear
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  Speaker 1: that there's not a redemption story. There's no use in
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  Speaker 1: just dragging this dude to the mud. It's not fair,
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  Speaker 1: it's not fun, it's whatever. But we still got to
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  Speaker 1: break down the episode. So this is where I pick
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  Speaker 1: it up. The standoff continues. Opening scene looks like this.
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  Speaker 1: All the boys are addressing their concerns of luke P's situation.
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  Speaker 1: Jed said, this is something we need to be careful of.
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  Speaker 1: Return to luke P's ability to manipulate Ashley. Here's my response,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to hear what you think. This scene
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  Speaker 1: made me realize that I don't think luke P has
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  Speaker 1: any clue of what he's actually doing, meaning this is
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  Speaker 1: not an intentional manipulation. It's not intentional from the hurt
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  Speaker 1: everybody in the house. I honestly think he cannot help himself,
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  Speaker 1: that his personality or the way he's dealt with people
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  Speaker 1: in the past has led up to the point, probably
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in his life. He's watching it
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  Speaker 1: back and happened to be self aware, and he's not
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  Speaker 1: realizing probably watching this that he has manipulated people. He
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  Speaker 1: has hurt people along the way just because of how
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  Speaker 1: he deals with people. But watching this scene, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he realizes he's doing it. I honestly think in
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  Speaker 1: his mind he's believes that he has not intentionally hurt anybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: quite possibly. It seems like the entire episode, like he
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  Speaker 1: says things and then, like Mike said, he like forgets
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  Speaker 1: that he said them or doesn't understand like I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: he said, Yeah, he just says things, doesn't understand how
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  Speaker 1: it comes across, and then he later says things that
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  Speaker 1: make what he had said prior a lie. He my
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  Speaker 1: my roommate watched the episode with me and he said
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  Speaker 1: that it reminds him of a guy I would never
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  Speaker 1: watched this season, but you might know Bentley, Did you
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  Speaker 1: watch this season with Bentley? And part of it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember Bentley having an issue. Well, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: the other guys didn't like him. This is on Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: this is on Ashley. H this season, I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: him having an issue with the guys, but I do
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  Speaker 1: just remember the way that he what he said to Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: he was just what he said to Ashley, and then
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  Speaker 1: what he said in I T M S was just
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  Speaker 1: totally different. He was literally admitting to her the entire
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  Speaker 1: time that he was playing her. Do you think Luke
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  Speaker 1: p has any clue of how bad he's coming off
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  Speaker 1: while this is happening, Like, do you think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to bed at night going, oh, man, I'm really digging
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  Speaker 1: myself a hole, not only with Hannah and the guys
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  Speaker 1: but just in general. Or do you do you think
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  Speaker 1: this is just a a foreign idea to him. I
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  Speaker 1: think that he knows he's gaking a hole with the guys,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know if he thinks that what he's
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  Speaker 1: doing with Hannah is really going to be like a
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  Speaker 1: big deal. Like I think he just keeps thinking like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we have something, It's okay. I can you know. I
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  Speaker 1: also don't even know that he knows how to fix
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  Speaker 1: the things of the guys, because, like you said, he's
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  Speaker 1: not really acknowledging that he's doing anything wrong. He literally
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  Speaker 1: doesn't think he is. He has no clue, which leads
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  Speaker 1: up to this point we see and this is my
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite things about this show is when
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  Speaker 1: there's a feud in the house, the show does a
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  Speaker 1: great job, just like we should in real life. I
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  Speaker 1: think of bringing two people to together to confront the
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  Speaker 1: issue right at some point, no matter how ugly it
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  Speaker 1: gets over time, the show finally sits both people in
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  Speaker 1: the room and make some hash it out. It happens
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  Speaker 1: every year, happens every season. It's always one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite things because you see two people, two adults, having
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  Speaker 1: a grown up conversation, or at least attempting to. And
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  Speaker 1: we see it with Lucas and Luke P. They're sitting
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  Speaker 1: quietly in a room together confronting an issue that neither
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  Speaker 1: of them fully know how to handle. Hannah doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: how to handle it. Hannah leaves and we see Lucas
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  Speaker 1: and LUKEP go back and forth with each other. There.
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  Speaker 1: I will say it again, I will stand firm in
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  Speaker 1: this and please email us as been an Actually, I
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  Speaker 1: heart medi dot com. If you agree disagree, you're feeling different.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Lucas still didn't handle the situation well himself either,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know why. Like he said like the
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  Speaker 1: right things, I just feel like his tone is like
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  Speaker 1: so hostile. But I guess an argument, your tone is
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  Speaker 1: going to be hostile. I feel like there's a way
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  Speaker 1: to approach the argument where it's like just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more understanding, a little more like, a little less accusatory.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Am I like saying bizarre things right now?
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  Speaker 1: Why do I feel like this fight? Because normally on
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  Speaker 1: a fight on this franchise, I like it's a fight,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't. But I'm rooting for someone, even if
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  Speaker 1: I don't really like the person, I'm still like rooting
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  Speaker 1: for someone. In this case, I'd be happy if they
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  Speaker 1: both left, I agree. And I wasn't super clear that
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  Speaker 1: if I thought they both should leave. Yeah, because I
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  Speaker 1: know Hannah does. She said she summarized it best after this,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna skip ahead and pull it back here.
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  Speaker 1: But she says, you know, my mind doesn't want him hear,
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  Speaker 1: but my heart does, and those type of things. I
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  Speaker 1: think both men I feel like are going home at
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  Speaker 1: this point, especially when Luke pulls Hannah away right before
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  Speaker 1: the Roses start getting passed out, and I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here's his opportunity fixed things right. He's gonna be a man,
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna say, hey, this whole situation has been ugly
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  Speaker 1: and messed up. It's taken away from our relationship. I
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  Speaker 1: know that you're feelings towards me are now in question.
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  Speaker 1: I know that you've seen a different side of me,
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  Speaker 1: and I can't help but say that I'm sorry for that,
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  Speaker 1: all those things he could have said and actually met
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  Speaker 1: and felt. But he goes right back at Luke again,
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  Speaker 1: saying watch out for him. It's confusing to me. Why
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  Speaker 1: do guys and girls on this show continue to use
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  Speaker 1: a limited amount of time that they have to stand
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  Speaker 1: up to try to sabotage, block, or stop another relationship.
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  Speaker 1: We're you're not here for that. That does you know good?
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't do me any good on this show until
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  Speaker 1: the very end, to the last day, for any of
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  Speaker 1: somebody else to go home, it's it matters. The benefit
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  Speaker 1: is for me to stay me personally until the last day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care who goes home. Or not right right?
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  Speaker 1: So why does Luke care? Why does Lucas care so much? Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think he's just annoyed.
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  Speaker 1: I think you get to that point on the show,
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  Speaker 1: especially because I've lived it multiple moments like this where
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  Speaker 1: I just get so frustrated and I'm so angry that
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  Speaker 1: I can't help but think of anything else until the
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  Speaker 1: confrontation has cleared. You know, Yeah, I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: ever had that. I think, like I just I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to be able to get past this until it
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  Speaker 1: is dealt with. Yeah, So just to go back a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, Ashly, you've dealt with a scenario like this
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  Speaker 1: where you've had a feud on this show and it's
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  Speaker 1: been difficult to handle and it's been confusing when you're
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  Speaker 1: in it. How does it compare to real life? So
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  Speaker 1: if you had a feud in real life or disagreement
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  Speaker 1: with somebody, how would you handle it compared to how
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  Speaker 1: you're forced to or just because of environment and restrict
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  Speaker 1: time restrictions when you're on the show. Well, I've never
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  Speaker 1: really had a fight like this in like in real
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  Speaker 1: life quote quote I've never had like an in an
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  Speaker 1: art like I've never had any sort of like enemy
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  Speaker 1: in real life, so I don't really know how I
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  Speaker 1: would deal it deal with it. But if I had
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  Speaker 1: to deal with a friend conflict in real life, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you know your friend well enough to like
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  Speaker 1: say how you're feeling in a way that they'll understand.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just more easily worked out than on the show,
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  Speaker 1: where while you're choose your you are put in an
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  Speaker 1: environment where you can't escape people in personalities that you
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  Speaker 1: don't drive with. I mean, I guess we could say this,
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  Speaker 1: and I have a follow up question for you. But
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  Speaker 1: you and I have had we worked together for two
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  Speaker 1: years now, speak of that last week was actually nice
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  Speaker 1: two year in the first three fifteen million individual downloads later,
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  Speaker 1: actually I CONNETI in the almost famous podcast is rolling
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  Speaker 1: through pretty Cool roll Tide roll Tad roll tid fifteen
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  Speaker 1: million downloads. Anyway, Sorry, you and i've had disagreements, right,
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  Speaker 1: We were worked together, we talked together. You know, we've
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  Speaker 1: had things that have came up that we disagree on.
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  Speaker 1: But I think disagreements are different than what you have
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  Speaker 1: on the show. But I would say this, disagreements can
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  Speaker 1: turn into feuds. But what I think friends do. What
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  Speaker 1: you and I would do is as soon as it happens,
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  Speaker 1: we call text confront the situation to say, hey, I
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  Speaker 1: agree or I disagree with what's happening. How do we
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  Speaker 1: work this out? How do we come to terms? Because
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  Speaker 1: I love you, I care about you, I know that
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  Speaker 1: your intentions are good, they're not trying to hurt me,
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  Speaker 1: And then it always gets solved, which I think you
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  Speaker 1: do in real life, which I think is still an
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  Speaker 1: option on the show, you don't think, So okay, So
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  Speaker 1: here's my follow up, up, follow up, because I think
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  Speaker 1: I have exactly the answer for you, and I think
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  Speaker 1: I already kind of mentioned it. Yeah, So what it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be. My question to you actually is why on
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  Speaker 1: the show if they don't happen as much in your life,
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  Speaker 1: why on the show one, do these feuds happen so
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  Speaker 1: often every season amongst people that don't know each other
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  Speaker 1: and are both going after the same person? In second?
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  Speaker 1: How do you handle it? In real life? You normally
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  Speaker 1: don't associate with people that you don't like on a
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  Speaker 1: regular basis, Like maybe you're forced to take a class
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  Speaker 1: with them, or maybe you're forced to work with them,
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  Speaker 1: but you're not like living together and you're not fighting
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  Speaker 1: over the same person. It's like it's one thing to
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  Speaker 1: like disagree and not get along in a work environment,
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  Speaker 1: because that's work. But I think when it's about someone
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  Speaker 1: like a love interest, and on top of the conflict
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  Speaker 1: being about a love interest, you also don't jive with
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  Speaker 1: them as a person and you're stuck with living with them,
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  Speaker 1: that's when it all boils up and it's a completely
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  Speaker 1: different out of hand scenario. Do you think anything And
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  Speaker 1: I want to sit in this for a second, because
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  Speaker 1: we get a lot of emails our listeners asking for
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  Speaker 1: the behind the scenes scenes answers. Do you think any
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  Speaker 1: of this is because of the environment that you're placed in,
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  Speaker 1: the heightened sense of emotion, vulnerability, and confusion because this
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: isn't your normal life, Like you don't get to separate
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: yourself and go to your room and sleep, nap, think
• 17:34
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• 17:37
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• 17:43
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• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the exhaustion and the confusion of being around people all
• 17:49
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• 17:51
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• 18:24
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• 18:25
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• 18:28
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• 18:32
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• 18:36
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• 18:39
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• 18:43
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• 18:45
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• 18:49
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• 18:53
  Speaker 1: don't now have like an individual maker and a pot
• 18:57
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• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And we also got the juicer that was on our
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: registry who because I have been trying to like drink
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: more green juices and stuff leading up to the wedding.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I um, I really don't like salads. I just don't
• 19:15
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• 19:18
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• 19:21
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• 19:24
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• 19:27
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• 19:33
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• 19:40
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• 19:55
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• 20:13
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• 20:16
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  Speaker 1: Ashley moving on from the Luke situation, because we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get back to it. Luke is gonna be talking about
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: at the end of this episode as well. Lucas and
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Luke p The few continues, Luke pe stays, Lucas goes home.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: It wasn't unexpected. I kind of figured it was going
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to happen, at least just from her feelings towards Luke
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Peces the beginning. Ashley, Well, you shocked that Luke pe stayed. No,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: not at all. I mean I understand, like having feelings
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: towards someone that you probably know is not a good
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: idea in your head, but like she said, in your heart,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you just can't let go of it yet. So I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I understand if she wants more weeks with him. Didn't
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you feel like in sorry, I said we'd move on,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: but I want to. Didn't you feel like you're at home?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Because at this point, Hannah seems like a friend to me,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Like I love Hannah. I think Hannah Uh is a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: lot like you in the sense of, like you, you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: were so different as people. But I just want to
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: cheer for her as a human and she's entertaining to
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: me because of her different way she'd handle situations. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: when she's saying the words you know, my mind Uh
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear my heart does. It's like so
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: many of my friends that I know that are women
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and men that I'm going leave like this is if
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: you're saying that this is not a healthy relationship, this
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: is not good. Get out of it. But yet we always,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: all of us get pulled right back into those You
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: just can't get out of them totally. We can't help ourselves,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: but we cannot help ourselves. But at this point, I'm
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: loving on Hannah, who also I'm loving on and I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: know you do, and I want to know, were you Okay?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: When jp J Paul Jones, why I knew it. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: called it. I called it from the very beginning of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony, was like, darn it. JPJ is gonna
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: go home? Is any I know he's going home? We
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: did not see enough of him him, We didn't, But
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a lot of them
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in Paradise, Okay, So that brings it up. Then Mateo
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and JPJ were sent home, both solid candidates. I liked
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: them both. I'm not surprised they went home. We didn't
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: see a lot of them this season. There's a couple
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of guys that stayed that maybe I was a little
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: more surprised that we're there these guys. Yeah, there are
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a couple more forgettable guys that stayed rather than jp J.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I think, like He's just so much like a surfer
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: brow for her, and she's like, I'm never going to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: be with somebody like that. No, we didn't see enough
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of them. But here's what we gotta pause and talk
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: about before we get onto Scotland. Who does J? Who
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: do you see JPJ connecting with in Paradise? He's got
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to be there. Oh yeah, he's made for it. He
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: basically was on Hannah season so that he could go
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: to Paradise. I agree, Uh, do you have a person
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: off the top of your head right now? I think Demi.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I think Demi and him could have a blast. Okay,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: are they too similar? Maybe that's where I'm thinking. It's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: like they remind me. Yeah, but like at this point,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: isn't that probably what they're looking for? I don't know.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, Demby has been on the podcast a few
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: times talking about her love interest. I don't know if
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: she's ready to settle down if she wants to. Mean,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: how cool would it be if too funny, goofy people
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: connected in Paradise and we got to watch a relationship
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like that like flourish at least for a couple of weeks.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know that this girl is going to be
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: in Paradise. I think she's still instagramming stuff, so it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: probably a no. But I think he and Haley Ferguson, Oh,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that would be awesome. They also kind of like the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Sertain Brothers. Okay, I mean that's kind of okay, it's fine.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: It would be awesome to see Haley go down to
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Paradise kind of without Emily to see where they're at.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I've lost complete touch with the Ferguson twins, but back
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: in the day, um, they were a huge piece of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: my life and I always really enjoyed them as humans,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: like just they were fun to be around. They were
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: joy filled and the mystic. And so if we could
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: see Haley Ferguson and j p J and the conversations
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: they would have about the world, let's ship it, right,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that's that word we use, right, ship it. Yes, let's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: get Haley down there. Let's get Haley and Paradise. JPJ
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: is waiting for your girl. Okay. Second chapter of the show,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: they're moving on to Scotland. Big fan of Scotland. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: think that is a tremendous place to have the Bachelor,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And I actually kind of wish, like we did on
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the Caitlin season of The Bachelor that we they would
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: stay in Scotland a few more weeks. I just think
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: there's tons to see, tons of beautiful date spots, amazing
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: high its, amazing places, picnic just it's a really good
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: country to do the show from because there's a ton
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: of history, a ton of culture, and a ton of beauty.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: So I was pumped to here that they're going to Scotland.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I was also excited actually because the very first date
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: goes out to Mike, who people are a huge fan
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of this season. I mean when I and I'm kind
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: of getting my my I'm judging these things based on
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Twitter responses after the show and during the show. Ashley,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: what is it about Mike that you think attracts people
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to him? Because here's the thing. I like Mike, but
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not positive on him because he's had so many
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: confrontations with Luke p and so at first it was like, Okay, Mike,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I think you have a lot going for you. Before
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: this day, I think you're looking guy, You're smart. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: like that you asked Hannah questions, but you've had now
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you I almost feel like he's taking the role on
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the protector of the house, and that typically is not
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the person I am a fan of later on the season.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: What is it about Mike that he's able to do
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that and still bring the crowds and him be a
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: fan of him. I'm really not sure then, because I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: kind of feel like you do. I like him, but
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why anybody would really have a passion
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: for him at this point, do you I thought the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: day went well, but I also like, it's screamed you're
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: not getting past six to me, do you know what
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I mean? It's like, you're gonna stick around because you're
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a nice guy in this process, and we get along
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: well and we have fun together. Um, and because I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: have to like do this, like buy a number system,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: You're going to hang around for a while because you're
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a good one, but you're not my one. That's just
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: what I gathered from the date. Yeah, and I mean
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: he's a top choice for Bachelor, which I think is understandable.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: But here's the thought that the thing that I was
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: really intrigued by from their date is Mike has been
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the protector of the house. He's a confident man, he's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a good looking guy. He stands up to Luke p
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: And what I appreciate about Mike is he tells Luke
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: p Um the truth. He doesn't skirt around the issue.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: He tries to get to the bottom of it. Um.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's very clear he's not a fan of loop p
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: but at this point not many people are. But we
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: see that confident, kind of stable force breakdown around Hannah
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to where he is uncontrollably nervous in that moment. He
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was very relatable because I had the same thing happened
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: with Caitlin. I could not speak on my first date
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: with Caitlin because I was so nervous to be alone
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: with her because she was such an intimidating figure to me.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: We saw that with Mike, which made him endearing. I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was just I was It's it's interesting, like as like
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: somebody who was more of an open book, to see
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: him struggle being vulnerable. It was funny. It was like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: he was really nervous about talking about like sharing himself. Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and I wonder, actually, can you relate like you're you're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: an open book, You're confident, but then when you get
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: around guys back in the day before Jared or even
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: when you first started talking to Jared, would you break
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: down for the Bachelor. Yeah, before the Bachelor, maybe on
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Crystal season, just like felt so weird talking about myself.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Like I could talk about like surfacing things about myself,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: but like not talking about my soul. So I think
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that Mike is just going through that learning process right now,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and if we do see him in Paradise, I feel
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like he'll be like far more comfortable with it. Okay, Yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: so you you're not picking him to be with Hannah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I really don't, do you. No, I don't think so either.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot there. I actually would pick
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: him for the top four at this point, um, because
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I do think he's six close. Yeah, so I think
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: it's somewhere between six and four. I think he is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be a top choice for Bachelor if he goes
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to Paradise or not. Um. But there was that moment
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that was interesting to me because he did break down
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: this confident figure that we've seen through the whole season,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: broke down a nervousness around Hannah. I mean he didn't
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: just break down a nervousness. He sat in that nervousness
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: for I mean it had to be minutes like he
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: was he couldn't speak it was in real life because
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: you know, those are a lot longer scenes in real life.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: At some point, she's probably just wondering, like Mike, just
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: start talking like that would probably be weird in person,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: like it it would be hones if somebody got that
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: nervous um. But like Hannah also understands more than anyone
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: because the way she was on her first date with Culton.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Good point. I never thought about that. Actually, that's a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: really good point. Yeah. Do you think it was nerve
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that got her with Colton? Oh? Yeah, because she just
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: didn't know how to express her soul either. I feel like,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: especially so early on, and like I think one on
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: ones are so there's so much more pressure on a
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: one on one than there is on a group dates
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: because with group dates you still get like only ten
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes solo time with the with the lead, and
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: then with one on ones, even though like a one
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: on one may take nine hours to shoot, you're probably
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: with them for like how many of those nine hours?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Five hours? Possibly that's a long date. That's like a
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: really long first date. Could you imagine going on our
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: date in the first date in real life and it
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: being five hours with somebody that maybe, well, there's the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: pressure to click, because if you're not clicking after five hours,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it's super obvious, super obvious. No, I can't think about that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That does give me stress. There's no way that she's
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: going to be clicking with every guy she goes on
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a one on one with. No he has so far, though,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: except maybe later on in this episode. So let's pause
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: for a second talking about the second group date, followed
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: by a massive breakdown with luke P's talking about one
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of our sponsors. All right, you already talking about the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: group date. Now the best group date. It was the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: best group day group day of this season, and we
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I think we all know why. It's because luke p
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't there, and we got to see amazing camaraderie amongst
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the guys. They like loved being in each other's presence
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: without Luke. They were having fun. I even loved when, Um,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: who is it? Who's your favorite? Kevin? Is that Kevin Grant? He? Wait?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Has he not? Who? Wait? Kevin is the wait? Is
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: there a guy named Kevin still around? He's the one
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: who saw Jed and hannahmaking out. Oh it wasn't Grant,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it was it might have been Kevin. I think his
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: name was Kevin. It's not then we know who you're
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: talking about. That was terrific, but yeah, so he's like, yeah,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I know, it was great, right, and then Jed was
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like yeah it was. They were like laughing, and I
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: just love the fact that they could laugh about that together. Well,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: it's it's amazing that like Kevin walks upstairs to see Well,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: first off, let's pause here, because on this group date
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: we saw Hannah writing I shouldn't say writing, these are
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: good makeout sessions, and Jed makeout and the Peter makeout
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Like Peter was actually cute because those like sexy scenes
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: on a fool table. You want them to be super sexy,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: but there's no way it's possible, and we were able
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to see it be cute and like clumsy at the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: same time. So actually, I want to start though at
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the beginning and talk about the existed. I thought this,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: why is it that I love these type of group dates.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: It's like I remember on my season of the Bachelor
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: there was the Sack her date and the women played
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: soccer and it was amazing because there was camaraderie, there
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: is teamwork. And then at the ending of the night.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: It was awesome because everybody was tired and worn out
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and so it was very relaxing. Same thing with boxing
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: on Caitlin season, and and these group dates about this
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: week of the year always seemed to be the best.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Are we are we saying this was the best group
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: date because Luke p wasn't on it or just because
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of the situation. Yeah, I think it was because Luke
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: he wasn't on it, and the guys were able to
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: do something fun and funny, which was what was that
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: called just the Brave Heart Championship. Yeah, let's call it that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: They were wearing skirts and like dumping milk on their
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: head and it was just fun and funny, and Luke
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't there to bring it down. And so the guys
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: actually like had friendships that existed during this group day.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It's felt like it felt like the guys actually enjoyed
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: being around each other as much as they enjoyed being
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: around Hannah, which is very important during these group dates.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I was excited to see I was excited the audience
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: got to see this kind of friendship amongst them, because
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: this is really what it's like in the house when
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: there isn't like any villain interruptions. You're right, You're right.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: When the villain is gone. It actually a lot of fun.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: There's cards being played, there's wrestling, there's whatever. Like people
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: are just messing around. I mean, at least I don't
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: know if the women are wrestling. Maybe they are, I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: don't know. Um, but I want to talk about the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: show made a big deal of everybody's balls flop it out.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Why were they wearing underwear? I was super confused. I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: don't think you do. I bet Mark knows this. What kilts?
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Do you wear underwear? Eyes just bugged out. He's like,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I do not, of course, like you can wear underwear
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: underneath them. But my understanding is you don't. My understanding
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that the tradition there is that you don't. Ben kind
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: of had me on that one. True. I knew he did.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I know. It feels like Mark's a killed guy. Yeah,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: so these guys, no wonder were underneath these kilts they're
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: flopping around. Hannah seeing it as a bachelor at Ashley,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: would you be into this or not? Like is that
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: a thing that people want to see? Like as if
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you're dating a guy A bunch of guys and that
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that's happening. Are you watching? You turn your head? I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: will say, it's definitely not like guys looking at girls
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: without underwear on. It's not like we're begging to see it,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: but we'll take a peek if it's there. Okay, just ciosity.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But it's not like sexy. I'll tell you that it's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: not sexy. That's that was the thing I was wondering,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: is this is this is sexy the word we use
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to describe this, Like is she going, oh, this is awesome?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: We're like, uh, Naking guys are more funny than they
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: are sexy. See that feels like something that exists, isn't it?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: But it's true. This killed website says that if you're
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: wearing underwear under your kilt, it's a dress. Really, that's
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: what they say. So they make it manly, a manly
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: skirt because you're not wearing underwear, and then therefore your
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: cahunas are kind of hanging out. That's like a masculine move. Well,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the true Scott's man, I read where's no underwear? So
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: a false Scotsman is what I am? But do you
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: guys feel as if guys are more funny naked and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: rolling around, and girls are like it's sexier for girls
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to have that tease of nothing under the dress. Those
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: are two separate questions. Then I'm not sure. I mean,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone gets excited when a man announces
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: he's not wearing underwear. So true, it's like it's like
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the difference been strip clubs. The when women go to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it's a party, there's there's loud music, and I think
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: they're having so much fun they're screaming the whole time.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Men go and just lurk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: point Mark. So you see, this is why Mark and
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Easton get paid the big buck because Easton broke it down. Well,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: nobody gets excited when a man says he no one
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: under it, and Mark said it best to where it's
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: men are just a little like lurky um and the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: women make laugh and can make totally different animals, totally
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: different animals. And that's what this date felt like. It
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: was fun and funny and it was a connector. It
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: felt like the people got closer during this date than
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: they were before because of situations like this, the funny,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the playful situations that existed. Moving into the evening, portion portion, Ashley,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: what did you think? How do you break it down?
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I just thought that Jed shined again during the nighttime
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: part of the date, and again we mentioned Peter, he
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: shined too because of his little move and knowing from
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: my chat with Hannah, which was a bonus scene last
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: week in Newport, she like really liked making out with
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Peter and he liked that. He that that he pushed
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: her against the wall, so I think he was like, oh,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: she liked that wall a lot, I'm gonna push her
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: against the fool table. So I feel like I really
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: felt connected with those two during the group date. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: feel like Jed just continues to kill it. I love
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: how subtle he is. There's just like something very easy
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: about him, and I think there's their opposites in a
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: way that it really makes sense, like she's going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: be like the shining star and like the big personality
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and he's just gonna sit back and enjoy watching her
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: do that. That's how I feel like he's not the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: most charismatic figure we've seen on this show. He's not
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: even the most charismatic figure on this group date, but
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: there's a subtleness and just a patience to him. That
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: feels like he's gonna be a great partner. He's going
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: to spice things up when when when we need to,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: but he's also going to be really good sitting back
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: watching Hannah shine, Like you said that, you summed it
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: up perfectly. I do agree. Now. Actually, one other thing
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I want to know is I think we're seeing Hannah
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: relax a lot this week. I think we're seeing her
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: getting a whole new comfort zone. And I think the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: parallels and the reason I say that is because physically
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: she's a lot more aggressive this week, and she's allowing
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a lot more of the makeout to make out to happen.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And actually she it looks like the cameras she doesn't
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: even think the cameras are there. Jed. She was like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I don't even care. He was like are you sure?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: He basically said like are you sure? And She's like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: whatever exactly, So, like, is this just to sig I mean,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: we're only a few weeks in. Is this a sign
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: of things that come? Like when you start to open
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: up the door to get more comfortable physically, the relationships
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: start to get really really close. And so I think
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you're opening yourself up for a lot more emotion later
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: on in the season that we may be seen in
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: a while because she's willing to get so so close
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: so quickly, quite possibly. And let's mention that Jed did
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: get the rose on this group day, and he has
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: been slaying it with the roses. He got the group
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: day on week two, then he got the the one
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: on one flower rose on week four, and then again
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: got a group date rose this week five. Like he
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: has gone into a rose ceremony now three out of
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the five times with a rose already. The funny part
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: is it's just a good like kind of gone back
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: to what you said before. Nobody's intimidated by Jet, right,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: The guys don't hate Jed. They're not pushing Jet aside.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: They're not going, oh, Jed is the front runner. None
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: of us are actually viewing Jet as the front war. Yeah,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: we're not. What is up with that? Because he's a
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: quiet assassin he is. I think he's very underwhelming, Like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: he's patient, he's kind, he says the right things, he's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: honest with her, but then he just kind of sneaks
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: back into the back. It's because usually the front runner
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: of the front runner is the one that is like
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: getting the most attention from the lead, but in this case,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: luke P is getting the most attention from her. But
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: it's not always positive attention. It's sometimes bad, but in
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: general it's attention. So when we think of this season,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: we think luke P before we would ever think about
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: somebody who has like just like a better chance of
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: ending up with her. Yeah. Are you're right. I'm starting
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to believe in Jed more than I ever have after
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: this week, because I think he is position has not
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: position that seems like it was intentional. I just think
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: he's in a position right now where everybody else around
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: him is kind of self destructing except the front runners,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and he's just going to quietly move through. Yeah. I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: also have to say that, even as an engaged woman,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I thought when he put that milk on his head
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it was sexy. Okay, I was going to move us
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: on here, but we have to pause here. Milk is
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: gonna smell so bad. I'm sure it will. You're right,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: that is pretty disgusting when you think of the smell.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: But it was the beastliness of it and the fact
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: that he really got into it, like Mel Gibson in
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Braveheart and like Let's remember that Braveheart may be thought
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of as like a man's movie, but it is a
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: grand romance. Okay, so we're saying the milk move was good.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: We're saying Braveheart is as a romantic comedy. It's not
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a comedy, it's a romance. It's a romance. And we're
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: saying Jed leaves this date as probably the front runner.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Moving into right now, who we thought was a front
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: runner after week one, Luke P finally gets the one
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: on one. The card is perfect. It says, let's figure
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: things out one way or another. It's perfect Ashley to
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: get us started here. And you know, I'm passionate about
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: this scenario, and so then I could pick it up.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Leaving the Lucas situation, moving into a one on one
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and reading that card is your expectation that this day
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: is going to go well or poorly before it even starts.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I would like to think that this this is not
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: just a date, it is a test. So I would
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: say he has a fifty chance of survival. Okay, here
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: here's how I think Luke P survives going to the date.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: If Luke's P survives, if he stops focusing on himself,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and he starts focusing on trying to make the situation
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: that Hannah is feeling. Oh wait, Ben, we forgot to
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: mention one big thing before going into this date. Okay.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Um she He like said when he found out that
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: he was going on the on the one on one
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: that he was going to use this as a way
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to really know whether he should still be around, Like
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: he was going to make this decision of like are
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: they compatible or are they not? Am I ready to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: leave or am I not? And it's like, dude, you
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: literally said that you are already falling in love with her.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: So another thing, it's like he forgets what he says
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: in the past. That's and I think, actually that's maybe
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: everybody's biggest issue with him in the house. I'm starting
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: to learn. So here's what's sad to me. Okay, So
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: fast forward to where luke P is leaving. I do
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: believe he thinks that he is attempting to make friends.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: It's actually a really sad scene. It was not easy
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: for anybody to watch, or for me to watch, at
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: least while he's leaving the group of guys, he says
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a few things. Now, yes, there there weren't wrong things,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and yes they're out of context, and yes he's not
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: doing a great job at communicating, but he says just
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a few words to the guys as he's leaving, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you can tell that he's hurting. You could tell the
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: all he wants to do is belong and he's so
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: far outside of the group at this point that belonging
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: is even an option until he solved some major issues.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: And I think, really it comes down to what you
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: were saying, is he uses his time so poorly. And
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: so here's a question want to ask our listeners, because
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: we have some very big hearted listeners. It's very clear
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that our listeners care a lot about the contestants and
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the people on us as as host. How do we
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: fall in love with Luke p for who he is
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: at his worst. I feel like it's impossible for goodenance
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to fall in love with him at this point. But
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he can't have a redemption story later
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: down the road. In Paradise he said not a zillion times,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: it's just you know right now, No, it's not going
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to happen this season. We need a break from him first, well,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and the guys need to break too, because was he
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: as he leaving the house to go on this day.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It was so awkward that I've you know, as a
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Aniogram four that I've talked about the podcast before. Aniogram four,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: that's my anagram number. You haven't taken. I haven't taken
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the test, but I really need to. You need to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: at some point. Well, afour at my best, you know,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I I desire authenticity and genuineus. That's when I'm at
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: my best, it says. When I'm over my worst, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: feel like the kid that wasn't you know. I've said
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: this before as well, but we repeat it. I feel
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: like the kid looking in the window at the birthday
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: party that he wasn't invited to, and I feel that
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that's when I'm not at my healthiest. And in this moment,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I felt like Luke p was looking around the room
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: realizing he wasn't invited to anybody's friendship and that hurts
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that I feel empathy for him there. It's really hard,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and it's really late in the game, and I agree
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: with you that I think we're so far that redemption
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: isn't going to happen, especially after watching this day. And
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: here's why we can go back and forth and break
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: down each words and each thing said, I've gotten the sense,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: and to be critical here, luke P still is talking
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: about luke P no matter how hard this is getting
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: for Hannah, and as confused as Hannah as is, his
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: response is always, well, I'm confused. Also, I'm hurting also,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: but I think you're perfect. No, this isn't about what
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: you think of her right now. This is about what
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: she thinks towards you. Pour into who she is as
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: a woman, Pour into this relationship. Because we know that
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: you're feeling hurt as well, but but you're also hurting
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: everybody else in the process. And so I'm confused at
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: why it continues to be about luke P and his mind.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: There isn't a when Hannah says that, why isn't the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: response like a Mike would do too, Why are you hurting?
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Let's break this down, let's talk about it, let's come
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: to terms, let's let's let's communicate. It's yeah, I'm hurting two,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: which diminishes Hannah's feelings and completely shuts down the conversation. Actually,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you, if you went to Jared,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: was something that was really hurting you right that was
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: going on in your relationship and his response to you was, yeah,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: but I'm hurting. Also, how do you feel shut down? Yeah, diminished,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Like he doesn't want to hear, he doesn't care, he
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't care, and you're gonna leave the conversation still with
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: a burden on your heart. That's not how communication works.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: And it isn't me too all the time, right, And
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: it's super interesting that Hannah um goes to the producers
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: and she says, like you can like kind of like
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: see her say something along the ones of like, please
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: talk to him and tell him what it means to
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: feel like she's obviously frustrated with him. Yeah, what it
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: means to actually feel anything towards me, empathy, emotion if
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: she so. We don't know whether or not he gets
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: as obviously, but um we but like, how could she
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: ever at the end of this, right, because it doesn't
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: get any better? Right, I mean, she sets him up
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: for the most success. She talks to these producers, which
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I love them showing because everybody always asked me to
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the producers force you into things that didn't manipulate you,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: what all those things? And I always say it's no.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: They just guide and direct And you see it here
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: which is exactly how producers would work. You've seen it
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: play out perfectly. She goes down with isshoes, she goes
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: down with with problems. They don't tell her what to do.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: They just listen respond and say and she goes, can
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: you go talk to him? And they say, that's your job, Hannah,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you go talk to him about this. Now they could
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: have said, they could have talked her through it and
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: you know, calmed her down, but they didn't. This is
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: a conversation that Luke Pie and Hannah needs to have.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: And what is Luke's p's response. Literally, Ashley and I
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: just had a tweet the other day because one of
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: our listen as goes, Ben, you gotta start stop talking
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: about self describing I'm like, okay, I'm done. I'm not
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: gonna do anymore over with you know, I don't like it.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I'll come back to that two more years. But literally
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: could not say anything more boastful than what he said.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: It's so cringe e. This is what this is. Oh,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you could not have And Luke, if you're listening, I
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: hope you know it's cringe E. I would come up podcast,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: We'll tell you it's cringe E. Come on the podcast.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: We'll we'll we'll talk about your communication. Come on the
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: podcast and let's have a redemption story. Luke p would
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: be a great A terrific depth, A terrific in depth.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: It would be amazing to hear his story and figure
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: out how we can love on him best and fall
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: in love with him as as a person because right
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: now we're not seeing great things. And he goes, it's
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: weird that none of these guys like me, because wherever
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I go, everybody loves me. In high school and in
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: my hometown, people love me. I mean, come on, listeners,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: come on out there. How many times in our lives
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: have we met somebody that said something similar? And I
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: don't care if you like the self describing part or not.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: It's cringe. E. Everyone loves me. Everybody everybody likes me.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, Ashley, I think you're a very loved person.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Liked I a majority. I guarantee you that everybody loves you. You.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's a better it's the better person to
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: say everybody loves you. And I know you would never
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: ever say that or even think that because you're humble,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: because it's not true, Like it's just not true. I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: trust me get on my Twitter like it ain't good.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets ugly. I know people don't always love me.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: And for him to say, so, here's the thing, actley
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: and and then we'll stop talking about it and let's
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: just break down the whole conversation. So, Hannah Pie's issue
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: with Luke p is that he isn't getting along with
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: guys at the house. He's not feeling things, he's not emotional,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: he isn't vulnerable, and as a result, they seem to
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: be missing the mark. It's all stemming from his inability to,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: uh for lack of ar term, humble himself to the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: place that he's at and and be self aware that
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: he is is kind of destroying relationships in the house
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: as he goes. So instead of humbling himself and being
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: self aware, he says those exact things. She's probably hoping
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. Don't you think I am too caught up
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: in the moment right now of thinking about is it
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: self describing that I just said I think people love me,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and hey, did I just do it? Weird and totally
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: hypocrite if you would have said, if you would have said,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I'm the most humble person in the world and as
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: a result, then it would have been tight end. But no,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: no at all. Um, don't you think that he missed
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the mark completely when he said that that the rest
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: of the day on as Lee was never going to
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: be fixed because of those words? Oh? Absolutely absolutely, I don't.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how she honestly went on. Well,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: we don't know if they did, because we move on
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: to the dinner portion of the date to where he
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: starts saying that she's perfect, and we have two more
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: points that we want to touch on. What's happening here
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: for Hannah I think is she's still trying to tell
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: him Luke, I don't know if I'm in this, Like,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're in this, I don't know
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: what we're doing here, Like we're obviously not connecting at all.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: You haven't seen the real side of me at any level.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I have other people on the show that already have,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Like we're missing it. And he starts talking about how
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: perfect she is, and she's going, what you're seeing is
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: not really me. So me being perfect in this moment
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: to you isn't true. It's not at this She's so good.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, Hannah has never I have never wondered what
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Hannah is feeling through this show, and I don't think
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the guys have either, because she has been incredibly honest.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I love how bad she is at like keeping anything
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: in and how good it is for us. Yeah, I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: just if she doesn't dump him at this, we will
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: all be unsatisfied. I will think that she's actually, for
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the first time, not doing like not listening to herself,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: and uh, it'll be shocking. This is normally if we're
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: going into week six with this, this is normally when
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I would think the villain would be cut out and
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: then we can start concentrating more on the love and
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: less on the drama. But who knows. I mean, could
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: you imagine her keeping him after this? Like what would
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: she be doing? But what would she be doing? Because
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: she likes She's basically doesn't like his personality. She basically
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: was very physically attracted to him the first couple of
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: weeks and now realizes that a face doesn't really mean
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: that much to her. Even after the whole dinner ash,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: there's still at odds she thinks he won't be real
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: with her. It's actually really weird. She's asking a ton
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: of questions about the relationship with the girls and the family,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and we see Loopie not answering, I'm with you. He
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: can't stay. It's the whole date has been going the
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: opposite direction from either what either of them want, and
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: you know, to either of his person's perspective, maybe they
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: just don't connect as a couple. At this point, they're
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: realizing that, yeah, they're not the best thing for each other,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and maybe that's the problem. Is loot p and his
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: mind is still saying that they are. It might be
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the worst date I've ever seen on the Bachelor franchise,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: or how much build up there was to it. Yeah, no,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I totally agree. Actually, to close up the podcast for today,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: this is the part that confuses me. I think he
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: stays because next week in the preview we see him
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: praying at an altar in a church, like he goes
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: somewhere else other than Scotland. It looks like it's to
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: me unless like they leave the day and she does
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: the whole I'm not going to pass out of roads tonight.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I need to think about it. And he goes back
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and he goes to the church. I think he ends
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: up staying till next week because I bet he got
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: a rose on this day so that she could process it.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Here's my things. She should have waited to the rose
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: ceremony and at least let it simmer in her brain,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm not going to give you on one
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: on one this day. I'm gonna make my own rules.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a couple of days or I'm gonna
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: have like at least like twenty four hours to figure
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it out. Have we don't know how this is. Then
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: he goes to pray that's okay, So you're not positive
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: that he's sticking around the next week. Actually, I gotta
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: get personal for a second. My buddy watches show with
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: me last night, and as a Christian myself, Um, I
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: don't love when it feels like faith is being used
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: as a weapon. Or do you take that line from Nick?
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Nick's been saying that everywhere he could he gets a chance.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: He says that God has been being used as a
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: weapon with him. Really, yeah, we should have Oh yeah,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: we definitely should. Um, it's not okay to me because
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of people watch this show from all different ages.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: It isn't fun to watch as a believer in Jesus
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: to see that God's name as being used as a
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: weapon at any level. Right. I want these two people
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: to figure it out as adults, as real human beings.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want a faith that I know is very
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: important to probably Luke and to Hannah, to all to
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of other guys in the show. I don't
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: want it to be used as a focus point to
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: protect from the story going on. Right. I mean, it's
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: not a good look, and I don't love at the
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: end of this episode shows him on his hands and
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: knees praying because in my belief, and maybe I could
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: be wrong, prayers should be done and quiet. It shouldn't
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: be done to cause a scene. It shouldn't be shouldn't
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: be done to be boast. We should be served and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: praying quietly in our own worlds. Right. There's a great
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: verse that says, served so that your right hand doesn't
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: know what your left is doing. And I feel like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: to use a faith or a prayer at any level
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: could get really dangerous and it gets very personal to me.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: You said, you said it all. Hey, I hope that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Luke p is praying. I hope that he is trying
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: to process where God is at in his life at
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: this time. I have zero doubt that he is, like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I think he hasn't probably a relationship that he desires
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: to be authentic and genuine with God. But I also
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: think there's a responsibility as men and women and just
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: humans in general to figure out our stuff out on
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: our own. And I hope he is doing that. I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: hope he takes responsibility for his actions. I hope he
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: takes her responsibility for how he is communicating with the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: guys in the Hannah, And I hope that this isn't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: that we don't see next week him putting any type
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: of blame on any of the guys. I'm just tired
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of it. So he needs to figure his stuff out
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: on his own. I love what you just said, Ben Bravo. Um,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: would you like to do some emails before we wrap
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: this up? I love to let's do it. Okay, I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: like this, but it basically was something you said last week.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I think this is from Megan the new Tanner does
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Garrett not give you guys? Major Tanner arrives. He's not
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: the front runner. He has some funny comments. He seems
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to be cool and calm. He's definitely slow to warm
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: up to Hannah. He also seems really close to the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: guys in the house. I'm not sure, but this feels
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: a lot like the Tanner of this season. And I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: think you said that last season. I think that's why
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you said you love Garrett. Oh, Garrett, Oh, this is
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: about Garrett. No, I think this is more about Grant.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Remind me more of Tanner. Grant reminds me of Tanner.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Garrett doesn't see. Tanner was funny because Tanner was such
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: a big fan of the show when we went on,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Before we went on that he would sit in the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: back and just quietly break down what was happening now.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: He was the encyclopedia. He was the encyclopedia, and so
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: he was funny because he was so quiet and passive
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: and calm that I fell in love with Tanner right
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: away because he was just a good voice to have around. No,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Garrett has that similar vibe, but Grant definitely
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to me that this is the email is funny because
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: from Megan the question in this what is your favorite dessert?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: That's why favorite, that's what is your favorite dessert? Um?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: My favorite dessert is a warm chocolate ship cookie out
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: of the oven mind strawberry ryobard pie, oh, I don't
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: know if I'd like that. I don't really like fruit
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: based desserts. Now, come on, not desert if it's not chocolate. Um.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Next email, what about Mike J. Why is Mike J
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: not getting much screen time or attention this season? He
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: seems smart, kind, genuine, authentic, and does not put up
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: with the drama that the other men start in the house.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: He calls out there um s h I d but
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: does not, but does so in a way that is
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: protective Hannah's heart. I'm totally team Mike, and if he
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't win, I think it's about time we have a
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Bachelor of color now, Katie, this obviously has written before
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: this week. I think we see a lot of Mike
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: this week. I hope that you enjoyed that. I think that, uh,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: this podcast is definitely a fantom Mike. I think he
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: could be the next Bachelor. I don't know if he's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: right for Hannah. As I asked, you was saying, um,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: but I think after this week we'll see more and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: more of Mike. I have to laugh at this this
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: email from Katie. She goes, I have a theory. We
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: have a theory. We have a theory. I guess her
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: and her friends that in our experiences seem to be
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: almost proven. People tend to be attracted to people that
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: look like them. In fact, great couples often often are
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: told that they look like siblings. For example, You and Jest, Jared,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Nashley Colton and Cassie Tanner and Jade, Joe, Joe and Jordan,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: and Becka and Garrett. Based on this theory, only Hannah
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: By will pick either Luke, p or Tyler C. Are
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: we crazy or do we think that people are subconsciously
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: attracted to people with some silar features. I will tell
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: you I am attracted to people who have similar features
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: to me. I like dark hair, usually dark eyes. I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: like almond shape eyes. I like guys with big brows
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: and full lips. I like literally, um just have like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: this type. And everybody has always been like, you look
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: like you could be his sister, like to all the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: guys that I've really really liked in my life, including Jared,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: which is fine that Jared and I looked like like
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: we could be, you know, related, maybe not directly sister
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: and brother. I don't think directly sister and brother, but
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you know they're similarities. But the only other people that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I see have similarities in this group, Colton and Cassie.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: They look like they could be siblings. I suppose Taylor
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: and Jade do too. Maybe that's why they created the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: most beautiful child I've ever seen an Emmy. But I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: don't see you and Jess looking like siblings. And I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: don't see Jojo and Jordan's Beck and Garant either. You know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: It's funny I've been I feel like I've been attracted
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: to all different types. All right, I'm so attracted to Jess,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: and then I've also been attracted the blonde. Like it's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I have to have a wide array of attraction. But
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I do think that you are a checked to somebody
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: looks similar to you. Um, I have zero idea why.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I think probably is amazing thing. Don't you think that,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: like if you have compatible features, that you will produce
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: a strong looking child. Oh that could be ash Look
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: at you, just the smartest young lady. I know. Hey,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Ashley wild podcast this week a wild show. Um again, Hey,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: congratulations to you and also myself. We've both worked hard
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: at this and the whole team at my heart Mark
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Easton Amy tore it in like just the whole team
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: that's worked on this since the beginning. This is our
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: second year once again and over fifteen million downloads in
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: two years. We're rock can enroll in. My buddy asked
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: me tonight, Ashley, does it feel like the podcast has
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: any end in sight? And I said, there's absolutely no way.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I hope not. I really hope we're doing this as
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: long as the Bachelor and Bachelor I continue, Let's do it.
• 1:06:13
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• 1:06:17
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