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- 0:02Speaker 1: College basketball fans, Welcome back to the College Ball Show.
- 0:07Speaker 1: He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here to talk about
- 0:11Speaker 1: of college basketball. Right hoops is in full motion. March fourteenth,
- 0:21Speaker 1: twenty twenty five is the date, so that means, you
- 0:24Speaker 1: know what that means, March madness, baby. And it all
- 0:26Speaker 1: starts out with the Conference Attorneys, which we've already had
- 0:31Speaker 1: some pretty dramatic endings, buzzer beaters, overtime, double overtime. Still
- 0:38Speaker 1: don't know how a couple of those Texas baskets against
- 0:44Speaker 1: A and M how they got so wide open. We'll
- 0:48Speaker 1: talk about it, we'll talk about everything. We'll kind of
- 0:51Speaker 1: you know, we weren't Life got in the way on Monday,
- 0:53Speaker 1: so we weren't able to do a show, so we're
- 0:56Speaker 1: not going to go too deep in the recap from
- 0:58Speaker 1: the weekend. We'll just kind of put a a nice
- 1:00Speaker 1: boat on what happened this weekend and look at some
- 1:05Speaker 1: of the early rounds, whether it's yesterday or the day
- 1:07Speaker 1: before or going on right now. There's some good games
- 1:11Speaker 1: going on as we speak in later tonight, as we
- 1:14Speaker 1: get to the quarterfinals, the semifinals, in the finals, and
- 1:20Speaker 1: then it's crazy to say, but next Monday, or I
- 1:24Speaker 1: should say this coming Monday, we'll have the brackets in hand,
- 1:29Speaker 1: preview and predicting the first two rounds of the tournament. Man,
- 1:35Speaker 1: gotta love it. The weather's starting to change. It's going
- 1:38Speaker 1: to go from like seventy to snow back to sixty
- 1:42Speaker 1: in Minnesota. So you know that means it's turning time. Right.
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- 3:19Speaker 1: let's get into this. Let's get into this. Like I said,
- 3:22Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about what happened to kind
- 3:25Speaker 1: of wrap up the regular season and then these early
- 3:28Speaker 1: rounds and whatnot. Let's go ahead and bring in the
- 3:30Speaker 1: co host Marshall. Marshall, how are you doing? Which is
- 3:34Speaker 1: kind of a dumb question because it's it's mid March
- 3:37Speaker 1: and we're always doing pretty good at mid March.
- 3:40Speaker 2: So my girlfriend started working from home and I got
- 3:44Speaker 2: her a monitor.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on time out, time out
- 3:47Speaker 1: of time out? Your what.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Fiance?
- 3:51Speaker 1: Thanks you?
- 3:52Speaker 2: I got you you guys, buddy started working from home
- 3:57Speaker 2: that I got her a monitor so she could do
- 4:00Speaker 2: work in my house because she needs two screens, and
- 4:03Speaker 2: so of course this week what I do.
- 4:05Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, we're gonna use my monitor. I'm like, well, yeah,
- 4:08Speaker 3: of course. And she's like oh why, She's like why
- 4:11Speaker 3: you have two TVs your living room?
- 4:12Speaker 2: I'm like, so, what's what's your point? So clearly everyone
- 4:17Speaker 2: thinks that's a little bit crazy. But hey, you got
- 4:19Speaker 2: yeah YouTube TV. I got ESPN Plus, like I I
- 4:22Speaker 2: got all the channels available pop you know, because they've
- 4:24Speaker 2: got Peacock games from Big East. Like, dude, this is
- 4:27Speaker 2: the best time of the year. Our school Wi Fi
- 4:32Speaker 2: isn't blocking ESPN Plus anymore. Like, I'm just watching all
- 4:34Speaker 2: the basketball I can, brothers. So it's been a it's
- 4:37Speaker 2: it's been a good day. Uh, spring break is this
- 4:40Speaker 2: next week's Obviously that's the best week to have spring
- 4:42Speaker 2: break off as a as a basketball fan. So yeah, hey,
- 4:46Speaker 2: ready to talk about a lot of basketball. We Today's
- 4:48Speaker 2: have been a great day. But I literally this is
- 4:51Speaker 2: gonna be my one opening point and it's no.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Question for you, just my opinion.
- 4:56Speaker 2: I do think that this potential tournament field we have
- 5:00Speaker 2: this year, Chris could be the best one since we've
- 5:04Speaker 2: had since uh since COVID shutdown because I remember when
- 5:08Speaker 2: we did that podcast that yeah never was Yes, just
- 5:13Speaker 2: because of the potential teams we had, of the match
- 5:18Speaker 2: we looked at. And I was telling my dad last night,
- 5:21Speaker 2: I do think that there's only maybe seven or eight
- 5:23Speaker 2: teams that can win a title this year, but the
- 5:26Speaker 2: amount tams are true, but I think the amount of
- 5:31Speaker 2: Tier two good teams this year is like fifteen to
- 5:35Speaker 2: twenty deep. So my main chat and my point two
- 5:38Speaker 2: and my dad was, is the fact that I think
- 5:41Speaker 2: that this opening Saturday Sunday is going to be better
- 5:44Speaker 2: than usual because I just think that that that level
- 5:47Speaker 2: of B teams this year in the country is a
- 5:50Speaker 2: huge level that is better than normal. And I think
- 5:52Speaker 2: part of that's just with basketball itself out and IL
- 5:55Speaker 2: money in the conferences and everything laying out. But I
- 5:58Speaker 2: think the opening weekend, especially Saturday Sunday, is going to
- 6:01Speaker 2: be better than usual. And I think this is going
- 6:04Speaker 2: to be one of the more fun turnts we've seen
- 6:05Speaker 2: in a long time.
- 6:06Speaker 3: And I hope I'm right on that.
- 6:08Speaker 1: And you're saying Saturday Sunday meaning those eight to.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Nine matchups, yeah, yeah, just get it out at first.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Things that some of those teams can make a make
- 6:20Speaker 1: some motion, and that is something that you you have
- 6:22Speaker 1: mentioned in the last handful of weeks.
- 6:25Speaker 3: It just seems like those B level teams there's more
- 6:28Speaker 3: of it than usual.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Yeah, And just for a possible example, Cooper Flag second round,
- 6:40Speaker 1: you know, for Duke. Yeah, we don't know who they're
- 6:43Speaker 1: going to play, but could that be something where they're like, damn,
- 6:47Speaker 1: we have to play Cooper Flag, you know, because we
- 6:50Speaker 1: gotta get by this team. Yeah. I think you're right
- 6:53Speaker 1: about that. And yeah, I always think about that that year. Man,
- 7:00Speaker 1: it just god, we were so I mean, obviously you
- 7:03Speaker 1: never know what would happen, but yeah, it's it's it's
- 7:07Speaker 1: one of those that we never get back. Basically, everybody
- 7:10Speaker 1: else got to finish their season, correct, I mean, no
- 7:14Speaker 1: other league didn't get to Everybody else got to finish
- 7:17Speaker 1: their season. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 7:21Speaker 3: Bubble, the NBA bubble, who can forget that.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did it like a what a sixty
- 7:28Speaker 1: day or something like that, Baseball sixty games or whatever
- 7:31Speaker 1: it was.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and NHL did a bubble thing well they played
- 7:36Speaker 2: emptas Yeah yeah, right, So.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean every everybody got to finish like that,
- 7:42Speaker 1: except then then that that was pretty crazy. I suppose, well,
- 7:46Speaker 1: you know, other college sports didn't get to finish that
- 7:48Speaker 1: year of course, like baseball and stuff like that, or
- 7:52Speaker 1: did they. I don't think baseball did right, no so
- 7:55Speaker 1: meaning callups. But you're right, that is something that you know,
- 7:59Speaker 1: I look about think about once in a while. You know,
- 8:02Speaker 1: I was reminded by a listener that last week on
- 8:10Speaker 1: the show, you did not add to your final four
- 8:15Speaker 1: list as you said you were going to.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Oh, I got it, okay.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Did you want to get that out of the way
- 8:25Speaker 1: or because because in years past, just to explain for
- 8:28Speaker 1: those who haven't listened, he's always had these. He's had
- 8:32Speaker 1: his one right away. Then I think he has three
- 8:35Speaker 1: or four of them almost every year that he he
- 8:38Speaker 1: he'll say him in late January sometimes, and he's learned
- 8:43Speaker 1: his lesson over the years. That's that's what we do.
- 8:47Speaker 1: We learn a bunch of lessons. And you know, however,
- 8:51Speaker 1: this year, I think two weeks ago we said, hey,
- 8:54Speaker 1: you gotta add some you gotta at least add one
- 8:57Speaker 1: more because you did do one right, you didn't want Yeah, I've.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Put I've put Duke on the list.
- 9:03Speaker 1: That's right, because it was a win win scenario for you.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Yeah, if they make you have a second entry, sir,
- 9:10Speaker 2: Actually I'm gonna I'm gonna give you two.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
- 9:15Speaker 2: And these are teams that just watch them play, uh,
- 9:19Speaker 2: I just think they have the ability.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Uh.
- 9:21Speaker 3: First, I'm gonna add Florida.
- 9:23Speaker 2: I think, man, because a you you have, you've beat
- 9:28Speaker 2: you beat Bama and you won an Auburn like.
- 9:31Speaker 3: I think that team has. The way they passed the ball,
- 9:34Speaker 3: They've really impressed me some of that Florida. And I'm
- 9:36Speaker 3: also gonna add uh b Yu. Uh. I think if
- 9:43Speaker 3: they can't get the right matchups, that team is very athletic.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Now again, it's hard to compare last year because I
- 9:48Speaker 2: you know, it's so much charge whatever.
- 9:50Speaker 3: But last year I fell over that team just because
- 9:52Speaker 3: they played the ball really well. Then they got knocked
- 9:53Speaker 3: around one.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Uh.
- 9:55Speaker 2: I think now they could get knocked around one again.
- 9:57Speaker 2: But watch them play Iowa State today. Man, that is
- 10:00Speaker 2: a very just like team.
- 10:03Speaker 3: They can shoot. I know a lot this kid, but.
- 10:06Speaker 2: They just they've been on a heater. I feel, Chris
- 10:09Speaker 2: for about the past two months. But I don't think
- 10:11Speaker 2: they're slowing down. So add Florida, who I'm really high
- 10:14Speaker 2: on I probably will better them to win the tournament
- 10:16Speaker 2: once that brat comes out, because I think that team
- 10:18Speaker 2: has potential or not.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Well, they just had the kid to just do it.
- 10:21Speaker 3: And I'll throw a wild card at a BYU.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I like that, and that is usually something that you
- 10:27Speaker 1: do as well, usually do bring a wild card. So
- 10:32Speaker 1: that that's I like that. That's really good.
- 10:35Speaker 2: And the kick the kick to the balls was when
- 10:37Speaker 2: I did it two years ago. I picked the team
- 10:39Speaker 2: I believe it was created who like in mid January
- 10:42Speaker 2: was hot, but then they finished here in a downfall.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And so of my fourteens I picked that year, they
- 10:48Speaker 2: played each other on like.
- 10:49Speaker 3: The opening weekend.
- 10:50Speaker 2: I was like, well, son of a bitch, how can
- 10:52Speaker 2: I make a final four pick if two will play
- 10:54Speaker 2: each other on the first Saturday of the tournament.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Well, that's what you get for picking him in Janie.
- 11:00Speaker 3: You know that that was a Hubling experience. Brother, are
- 11:02Speaker 3: very hopefully experienced.
- 11:06Speaker 1: I remember, I believe you picked Florida Atlantic two ones,
- 11:09Speaker 1: didn't you.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that that
- 11:13Speaker 2: would be last probably last year.
- 11:15Speaker 3: Yeah, when they had that, yeah, last year, yeah, it
- 11:18Speaker 3: probably was. They got knocked down the opening weekend too.
- 11:21Speaker 1: But they you know, but it they looked a part
- 11:23Speaker 1: of that of what you're saying, that outside thing and
- 11:26Speaker 1: byu those corner threes that they lead lead the whole
- 11:30Speaker 1: nation in like you put in the corner. It's basically
- 11:33Speaker 1: in the whop.
- 11:35Speaker 3: That that That game was so much fun to watch.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's one of the best games I've
- 11:39Speaker 3: seen in a long time.
- 11:41Speaker 2: It just yea, and you can say defense, but dude,
- 11:44Speaker 2: when you have teams they shoot the three ball that well,
- 11:46Speaker 2: even if the defense, you know, you're not gonna have
- 11:48Speaker 2: lockdown defenders in college basketball if you can hit the
- 11:51Speaker 2: threes like that shift they said a conference record today.
- 11:54Speaker 2: I think they hit twenty eight threes in that game
- 11:56Speaker 2: like that. That was just that's that's why you love
- 11:58Speaker 2: this time of the year. But also, as we know,
- 12:01Speaker 2: most teams Chris can't hit fourteen threes of the game
- 12:03Speaker 2: effectively without like shooting the ball like fifty five times.
- 12:06Speaker 3: You know that. That Yeah, so b Y in Florida, Florida.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Dude, I'm not a Gator fan, but that team you beat,
- 12:12Speaker 2: you want an Auburn maybe the way of the year
- 12:14Speaker 2: you beat Bama this past week, and you just got
- 12:17Speaker 2: guys that can.
- 12:18Speaker 3: You just got a full team.
- 12:19Speaker 2: So yeah, and maybe I'll have a team next week
- 12:22Speaker 2: when we do our bracket.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Maybe. All right, real quick, Bama at the buzzer, n
- 12:34Speaker 1: ot at Auburn. Hell of a way to do it.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Duke took care of business in the second half against
- 12:43Speaker 1: their rival. Houston, got a nice win over Baylor. Your
- 12:47Speaker 1: squad Florida destroyed Old Miss and a couple other ones
- 12:53Speaker 1: we'll mention as well. Penn State upsetting at Wisconsin. That
- 13:01Speaker 1: one really surprised me. That that one really shocked me.
- 13:07Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that one. And then we actually talked
- 13:11Speaker 1: about it before we hit record. You know, Saint John's
- 13:16Speaker 1: not needing the win Marquette definitely. I've been on this Marquette.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Hey man, they're gonna will they finish strong? Yeah, they're
- 13:24Speaker 1: not finishing strong. But to get that win in overtime
- 13:31Speaker 1: at Marquette just really tells me a lot about this squad.
- 13:35Speaker 1: You had it in the bag, you didn't need it.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Like I said, you have a conference tournament where you
- 13:40Speaker 1: may play it. You know, you could have played them again,
- 13:42Speaker 1: maybe depending on how everyone finished or whatever, But that
- 13:47Speaker 1: was really impressive because everything kind of points to I mean,
- 13:51Speaker 1: look at Auburn. They lost the lot, they had it
- 13:53Speaker 1: in the bag, they already won the conference, and they
- 13:57Speaker 1: lost the last two. Now I like the It sounds funny,
- 14:00Speaker 1: but I do like the way they lost. I'll say
- 14:03Speaker 1: that they didn't they weren't. They were. They came to win,
- 14:06Speaker 1: you know, no doubt about it, but that those are
- 14:10Speaker 1: some of the games that really stood out to me
- 14:14Speaker 1: from that Saturday and then Sunday Michigan State similar scenario
- 14:20Speaker 1: where they got it in the bag, but meanwhile they're
- 14:22Speaker 1: getting pissed off because someone's walking on Sparty, you know
- 14:25Speaker 1: what I mean, or standing on Sparty.
- 14:27Speaker 2: I should say, yeah, you know, like, you know what,
- 14:31Speaker 2: what are the odds that Michigan was involved in Just
- 14:35Speaker 2: a lot of field antics this year, whether it's college
- 14:39Speaker 2: football or college basketball.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Obviously the alt coups a little bit better for the
- 14:44Speaker 3: football team and the basketball team.
- 14:47Speaker 2: But to kind of follow your trade of thought, Saint
- 14:52Speaker 2: Drona's hey, hats off to Sparty, Like, dude, this team
- 14:56Speaker 2: you finished on a freaking heater. I remember we did
- 14:58Speaker 2: a podcast couple weeks We're like Okay, well, if they
- 15:01Speaker 2: finished the year you know strong, Well, shit, this is
- 15:04Speaker 2: how they finished the year after losing to Indiana, who
- 15:08Speaker 2: had a resurgence temporarily.
- 15:10Speaker 3: After they said that coach is gotta quit.
- 15:12Speaker 2: You won it Illinois, who just dropped one hundred and
- 15:15Speaker 2: six points on Iowa. You beat Perdue, who is right thirteenth.
- 15:19Speaker 2: You won it Michigan hand only, you had a Budger
- 15:22Speaker 2: beater at Maryland.
- 15:23Speaker 3: You won versus Wisconsin, you won at Iowa. You beat
- 15:26Speaker 3: Michigan again. Dude, you finished the year seven wins in
- 15:30Speaker 3: a row.
- 15:31Speaker 2: I mean, and you had to go on the road,
- 15:33Speaker 2: you had to play You played the best teams in
- 15:35Speaker 2: your conference. So the fact that you beat Illinois, Perdue, Michigan, Maryland,
- 15:39Speaker 2: Wisconsin in a row, Holy shit. And then you go
- 15:41Speaker 2: to Iowa, who can always be a tricky team because
- 15:44Speaker 2: they scored the ball. Well, they're not as good as usual,
- 15:46Speaker 2: but still and you.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Don't have a single slip up like that tells me that, hey,
- 15:50Speaker 3: this is one of the best fright teams we've seen
- 15:52Speaker 3: a long time. Now, can they win the title? Who knows?
- 15:54Speaker 2: It is a crapshoot, But this team's legit because how
- 15:58Speaker 2: many teams in basketball go and phase three of your
- 16:02Speaker 2: divisional rate teams all within the top Oh shit, you
- 16:05Speaker 2: won four games in a row verse thirteen to twelve,
- 16:08Speaker 2: sixteen to eleven. There's probably only a handful of teams.
- 16:11Speaker 3: Of the country, Chris. They can do that. So HAPs
- 16:13Speaker 3: off this party. Even if you lose your first round
- 16:16Speaker 3: of the big Ted, who gives a shit, like, dude,
- 16:18Speaker 3: this team is going to be making a deep broath,
- 16:20Speaker 3: is oh? I believe?
- 16:22Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's interesting because you know, we know they're
- 16:26Speaker 1: going to rebound both sides of the of the of
- 16:30Speaker 1: the court, right. We know that they're they like to
- 16:35Speaker 1: play kind of tackle football ish type basketball. They always have, Yeah,
- 16:40Speaker 1: but they the pace is up this year. They are
- 16:44Speaker 1: you know, they they go deep. They don't have maybe
- 16:48Speaker 1: the top of the line players, we're the top two
- 16:51Speaker 1: or three man. That dude's a fourth pick, that dude's
- 16:55Speaker 1: a you know, twelve picker. You know, so they don't
- 16:57Speaker 1: have that, but they do go pretty deep. They're shooting
- 17:00Speaker 1: ism has come around a little bit. They got a
- 17:03Speaker 1: couple guys that can knock down some threes, but that
- 17:06Speaker 1: is something along with a couple other teams in this,
- 17:10Speaker 1: you know, top tier teams in the nation that you
- 17:14Speaker 1: can point to, Saint John's obviously being one of them. Now,
- 17:18Speaker 1: like I said, they they're Their top shooter is Richardson, who,
- 17:21Speaker 1: by the way, has developed this year as a freshman
- 17:25Speaker 1: and he's really opened up his game overall, shooting thirty
- 17:29Speaker 1: nine percent. They do have another forty percent shooter. They
- 17:35Speaker 1: have a guy that barely plays that can shoot forty percent.
- 17:39Speaker 1: But you know, they're they're they're kind of in between.
- 17:42Speaker 1: But when you look at their field goal percentage, a
- 17:45Speaker 1: fifty two, a fifty, a sixty three, you know, a
- 17:50Speaker 1: basically like a sixty a sixty like. So I don't
- 17:53Speaker 1: know it. They they're damn good. I think because of
- 17:57Speaker 1: Io's track record and tournament obviously most people venture that
- 18:05Speaker 1: they could go to the final four. Sure can they
- 18:10Speaker 1: actually win the championship? And I'd have to say, you know,
- 18:17Speaker 1: maybe in two weeks I'll eat my words, But I
- 18:22Speaker 1: kind of I just they are deep. They are deep,
- 18:26Speaker 1: and they bring you know, I'm biased to Holman because
- 18:30Speaker 1: he's from Minneapolis, but they do bring guys out the
- 18:34Speaker 1: bench that you know, one or two of them can
- 18:37Speaker 1: can close the game. They'll be the closer, not necessarily
- 18:41Speaker 1: hitting the shop or say all of them, but you
- 18:43Speaker 1: know they'll close in the lineup. So they are deep
- 18:46Speaker 1: and they have a spread scoring, no doubt about it.
- 18:49Speaker 1: They got one, two, three, four, or five, six, seven
- 18:52Speaker 1: guys that are seven points and above. They don't have
- 18:56Speaker 1: that front line guy you could says and home in
- 19:01Speaker 1: and richardson those three guards though they're guard heavy and
- 19:03Speaker 1: they have solid bigs. But I just don't think that
- 19:07Speaker 1: they'll win the chip or you know, because you can
- 19:11Speaker 1: say that about all of the whole field except one, right, Like,
- 19:14Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna win the chip. Well, only
- 19:16Speaker 1: one person's gonna win the chip, but like, I think
- 19:19Speaker 1: they're just short of that Marshall. I think they can
- 19:22Speaker 1: get to the final four, but I just don't seeing
- 19:27Speaker 1: them tearing down the nets as much as I'd love
- 19:30Speaker 1: to see it.
- 19:32Speaker 3: So they're like a B plus plus team in your mind.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Yeah they can give you A games, A plus games,
- 19:39Speaker 1: but yeah, A minus B plus. I think as a
- 19:42Speaker 1: whole theer A minus probably. I just I don't think
- 19:46Speaker 1: they got the dudes. You know, but hey, guard, if
- 19:51Speaker 1: your top three scorers are guards in the Atturney maybe
- 19:55Speaker 1: I'll shut up. You know.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and again it's hard. It's hard to win
- 20:01Speaker 2: six to roer. Uh Uh do you think I would
- 20:08Speaker 2: say just off the track record of the games I
- 20:10Speaker 2: listened up, I think that just shows your your team
- 20:12Speaker 2: has the mental psyche to do it, just because it's
- 20:16Speaker 2: hard to win four games ro O versus your top
- 20:18Speaker 2: tier teams and most teams, I you know, Bamba an't
- 20:22Speaker 2: going to feed through their stretch.
- 20:23Speaker 3: And I'm not saying I'm.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Not comparing what the stretches of quite now, but in fairness,
- 20:29Speaker 2: the four teams I listened were all raked. Okay, were
- 20:31Speaker 2: they quite as good as bad as pots now, but
- 20:33Speaker 2: they're still raked. So I just think any team that
- 20:34Speaker 2: can do that shows me you have the mental psyche
- 20:37Speaker 2: to do the same thing as the tournament. So I
- 20:40Speaker 2: do think they have the capabilities of doing it, maybe
- 20:43Speaker 2: a little.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Bit higher than you.
- 20:45Speaker 2: But also, I mean, when the last time a Big
- 20:48Speaker 2: ten team won the tournament, you know, it's been it's
- 20:51Speaker 2: been a little while since then it has one. Yeah,
- 20:55Speaker 2: so that is something realistically to look at as well
- 20:57Speaker 2: when you're when you're talking tournament.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Hell yeah, And I guess the odds are gonna start
- 21:02Speaker 1: to come more the other way at some point, right,
- 21:05Speaker 1: because any given year, it's like, damn, you know, they've
- 21:09Speaker 1: they've made plenty of final fours, They've had a couple
- 21:12Speaker 1: of runner up teams the Big ten, but they haven't
- 21:15Speaker 1: cut the nets down since the Flintstones.
- 21:19Speaker 3: Well, hey, maybe it's maybe it takes a Flintstone kid
- 21:22Speaker 3: to do it. That could be it.
- 21:25Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of b YU ten in
- 21:30Speaker 1: a row, now, like you said, and you know, there's
- 21:33Speaker 1: positives and negatives in the new era wherein we all
- 21:36Speaker 1: know that. I do think that as a fan straight
- 21:40Speaker 1: up overall, not individually because hey, I'm from a It's
- 21:45Speaker 1: funny because in football, the Minnesota Goverers are good to
- 21:49Speaker 1: go on their NLI considering what they are, right, it's
- 21:53Speaker 1: it's above average, it's not top ten, But the last
- 21:59Speaker 1: two years they didn't lose a player to it. Now
- 22:02Speaker 1: the basketball who they just fired their coach of four years,
- 22:06Speaker 1: it hasn't been good. So I can look at it
- 22:08Speaker 1: from the perspective of we've you know, Ben Johnson did
- 22:15Speaker 1: not only recruit well, but develop well. And I just
- 22:18Speaker 1: got done watching the A and M game and there's
- 22:22Speaker 1: a big on that team that's from Minnesota, and he
- 22:26Speaker 1: was our big lot, you know, last year, so I
- 22:28Speaker 1: can I'm talking about the overall sport, not just being
- 22:33Speaker 1: biased towards my team, and I think there's far more positives,
- 22:39Speaker 1: especially when we get into this thing for the next
- 22:41Speaker 1: couple of years when some rule changes and whatnot. But
- 22:45Speaker 1: BYU wouldn't have happened without the NLI stuff, and they
- 22:51Speaker 1: have a very strong football program, but what they're doing
- 22:57Speaker 1: in basketball these last two years is very impressive and
- 23:02Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening without NLI. And they
- 23:08Speaker 1: now have a monster recruit coming in next year, and
- 23:11Speaker 1: it's it's different recruits generally anyway, are are different because
- 23:16Speaker 1: you can as a true freshman in basketball, you can
- 23:19Speaker 1: set the world on fire, you know.
- 23:23Speaker 3: True.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Well, I just wanted to add that with the b
- 23:27Speaker 1: YU thing, yes, that that there's a lot more positive
- 23:31Speaker 1: than negatives. And they're a damn good team.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get I haven't watched them quite as much,
- 23:39Speaker 2: you know, as they're at the track record that Sparty does.
- 23:43Speaker 2: But if you watch them play in the last month
- 23:45Speaker 2: and a half, again, they it's not the SEC but
- 23:48Speaker 2: they've got through a good galltlet two of a lot
- 23:51Speaker 2: of good teams, a big, big twelve and they've done
- 23:53Speaker 2: their fair share.
- 23:54Speaker 3: So again, and if you can shoot the three ball
- 23:57Speaker 3: as good as they wanted the country, that gives you
- 23:59Speaker 3: a chance game.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Now, are they maybe as physical as Oborned or have
- 24:03Speaker 2: the the depth of like Sparty's guard?
- 24:05Speaker 3: Who Yeah, every team you get handpicked, are they is
- 24:07Speaker 3: toughest Saint.
- 24:08Speaker 2: D But if the three balls dropping and you can't
- 24:12Speaker 2: cover the threes, hey good luck because that man, dude,
- 24:14Speaker 2: that was again if you watch that game last night
- 24:17Speaker 2: year today at work, I was let my kids study.
- 24:21Speaker 2: That was a truthfully fun game to watch because I
- 24:22Speaker 2: would say it's pretty much the same kind of team
- 24:24Speaker 2: as the BYU. So yeah, uh, I will say one
- 24:27Speaker 2: thing about b YU makes a little bit different is
- 24:29Speaker 2: and nowadays this has become more of a thing too, Chris.
- 24:32Speaker 2: But they have a lot of guys who are older
- 24:33Speaker 2: because they'd like go on their missions. So to add
- 24:37Speaker 2: on to your point, like you're also getting kind of
- 24:39Speaker 2: more mature experienced players too, because a lot of times
- 24:41Speaker 2: those BYU kids go like on a two year mission
- 24:44Speaker 2: then they get to play basketball. So when the regular
- 24:47Speaker 2: kid in college basketball might be anywhere from eighteen to
- 24:50Speaker 2: twenty two. Down days, maybe by us like twenty two,
- 24:53Speaker 2: maybe push them twenty four. So if that's very college
- 24:56Speaker 2: hockey vibes, yeah, yes, great call, Yeah perfect.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Anything else from the weekend though, Uh no, no, no,
- 25:09Speaker 1: all right. So Gonzaga beat Saint Mary's in the West
- 25:17Speaker 1: West Coast Conference Attorney Final. That was Tuesday. Notre Dame
- 25:23Speaker 1: got by Pitt barely. Shocker here Colorado TCU. I mean
- 25:29Speaker 1: that was a shocker. I didn't see that one coming. Today.
- 25:35Speaker 1: There was a variety of good games the last two games.
- 25:39Speaker 1: I should say Wednesday. I can't forget Wednesday. There there
- 25:41Speaker 1: was some really good games.
- 25:44Speaker 3: Ah.
- 25:45Speaker 1: You talked about Arkansas before we hit record, how they
- 25:49Speaker 1: damned near lost in South Carolina, turned around and lost today.
- 25:53Speaker 1: And it's funny because coach cal actually said, well, you know,
- 25:57Speaker 1: the we don't really care about the this tournament. We
- 26:01Speaker 1: care about the big one, he said. So it's like,
- 26:03Speaker 1: all right, that's cool. I don't know if you're in
- 26:05Speaker 1: the same scenario. But then Colorado followed that puppy up
- 26:09Speaker 1: with another win over the West Virginia. I think they're
- 26:11Speaker 1: trying to make a run. I think they're trying to
- 26:14Speaker 1: make a run all the way, but I don't think
- 26:19Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Another one. You know, Texas beat Vanny.
- 26:27Speaker 1: I didn't see that one coming. Vandy's a pretty good squad. Texas.
- 26:31Speaker 1: They've had some ups and downs, but that one really
- 26:34Speaker 1: stood out to me as far as from yesterday that
- 26:40Speaker 1: that really stood out. The USC Rutters game is really good.
- 26:42Speaker 1: I went that was that that was double overtime, Yes, yep,
- 26:48Speaker 1: and the Trojans came out of that one. Oklahoma and
- 26:54Speaker 1: Georgia those are some teams with if you look at
- 26:57Speaker 1: their record, they do have some good wins. So that
- 27:01Speaker 1: was an important game really considering where it was in
- 27:04Speaker 1: the tournament. Kansas just in overtime barely got by Central Florida.
- 27:12Speaker 3: That that was kind of I was.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Also surprised that s m U Syracuse is down this year,
- 27:17Speaker 1: but they dominated the SMU by twenty points. That one,
- 27:22Speaker 1: that one kind of stood out.
- 27:25Speaker 3: To me.
- 27:26Speaker 1: And then today obviously we've had some very interesting games already.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Like I was saying earlier, I don't that Texas, uh, Texas,
- 27:37Speaker 1: Texas A and M game at the like to go
- 27:41Speaker 1: to the second overtime. I think it was this Texas
- 27:44Speaker 1: Center is just wide open under the hoop. I just
- 27:46Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. I was just kind of even shocked. Oregon,
- 27:52Speaker 1: who is now ranked again. They they got a dub
- 27:55Speaker 1: over Indiana. Maybe they're on their second wind of the season.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Marquette barely got by Xavier. That may have done it
- 28:05Speaker 1: for Xavier. Kind of rambling here, but Old Miss in Arkansas,
- 28:10Speaker 1: we just mentioned them. Old Miss hit the shot, and
- 28:17Speaker 1: the dudes like it's ballgame, and there was like one
- 28:20Speaker 1: or two seconds left, one point four or something like that.
- 28:22Speaker 1: I said, well, hold on, dude, it's not ballgame. But
- 28:24Speaker 1: he was right. It turned out to be ballgame. And
- 28:26Speaker 1: I saw good old Marshall Henderson on the sidelines going
- 28:31Speaker 1: nuts for those who know that program. But you know,
- 28:35Speaker 1: Marquette was down fifty three to thirty nine. They end
- 28:38Speaker 1: up coming back and getting that dub because Marquette is
- 28:42Speaker 1: you know, even though I've been trying to will them
- 28:44Speaker 1: a little bit, they haven't responded. I will give credit
- 28:47Speaker 1: to Ryan Conwell though, do put up thirty eight points
- 28:51Speaker 1: on thirteen to eighteen shooting, so you know, shots out
- 28:55Speaker 1: to him. But yeah, just kind of going over some
- 28:58Speaker 1: of the action that I've been enjoyed or maybe seen
- 29:01Speaker 1: the last six minutes of or whatever.
- 29:03Speaker 2: You know, So one thing to add on to it
- 29:07Speaker 2: that I'll go on with what you said. One thing
- 29:11Speaker 2: I had been loved watching this past a few days
- 29:13Speaker 2: where I've been stuck at home just enjoying life. Uh,
- 29:16Speaker 2: fiance pride is like that too much, but hey, it's
- 29:18Speaker 2: time this time of the year.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Is Hey.
- 29:21Speaker 2: When you watch the smaller, smaller conference tournaments, the fact
- 29:24Speaker 2: they get to have the home teams get the home crowd,
- 29:28Speaker 2: doe that school shit.
- 29:29Speaker 3: Like I realized a.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Lot of these smaller schools probably can't go toe to
- 29:33Speaker 2: toe with Sparty Auburn, Duke, whoever. But when you have
- 29:37Speaker 2: a home crowd that is cheering it for a team
- 29:39Speaker 2: to make it to the March Madness and obviously in
- 29:42Speaker 2: a way team trying to ruin their dreams, dude, those
- 29:44Speaker 2: are fun games to watch, like the uh just the
- 29:50Speaker 2: American one of the spot Saints what was it, Saint
- 29:54Speaker 2: Francis was Finally, when you have these like teams that
- 29:56Speaker 2: are just winning to go to March Madness on their
- 29:58Speaker 2: home court, and these James maybe say like twenty five
- 30:01Speaker 2: hundred three thousand people.
- 30:02Speaker 3: That's fun. So if you're like, dude, I don't know
- 30:05Speaker 3: who the hell these teams are, like, who cares?
- 30:07Speaker 2: Like, dude, put it on because you were literally seeing
- 30:10Speaker 2: the best of the best for these small schools. But
- 30:12Speaker 2: there's there's no there's no nil money, there's no players
- 30:16Speaker 2: taking time off like these are dudes who like not
- 30:19Speaker 2: been you know ever, They're never gonna go to like
- 30:20Speaker 2: a top tier school, but it doesn't mean they can't
- 30:23Speaker 2: play some.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Ball, you know. So, Uh, those were a lot of
- 30:26Speaker 3: fun to watch. Obviously, now all the big boys are playing.
- 30:30Speaker 2: I've already said it today, but at that Iowa say
- 30:32Speaker 2: BYU game was fun instead of record for the most
- 30:34Speaker 2: point most three players ever made a in the Big
- 30:37Speaker 2: Twelve Conference from maybe they conference tournament games.
- 30:39Speaker 3: In general, the SEC has been crazy. I sadly was
- 30:44Speaker 3: at softball practice. I was checking my phone for that
- 30:46Speaker 3: A and m uh Texas game.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Uh, the one before with coach call As you said, dude, Arkansas,
- 30:52Speaker 2: they're they're hot and cold.
- 30:54Speaker 3: I think they're in the tournament for sure. But if
- 30:56Speaker 3: you if you've been on Calipari, it's.
- 30:58Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty because that team has won a lot
- 31:00Speaker 2: of big games finished the year, and they also had
- 31:02Speaker 2: a couple of hickup losses. Uh for Carolina, my boys,
- 31:06Speaker 2: I'll be very quick. They did win today, people thought
- 31:09Speaker 2: that was when they had to have. They played Duke tomorrow.
- 31:11Speaker 2: I think if they win that they're probably in, even
- 31:14Speaker 2: though I don't know if they need to be, but
- 31:15Speaker 2: they should be in. If they beat Duke without Cooper flying,
- 31:18Speaker 2: I would hope Carolina could do that. But this team
- 31:21Speaker 2: has been a little shaky this year, and for the
- 31:25Speaker 2: Big East, Hey, Saint John's, there was no coming out flat.
- 31:31Speaker 2: Listening to a couple of different podcasts and people talking
- 31:34Speaker 2: this week, they're like, oh, you know, like a lot
- 31:36Speaker 2: of times these big conference tournaments, like the Big Ten,
- 31:39Speaker 2: Big twelve, SEC, Big East, Hey, sometimes the one or
- 31:42Speaker 2: two seeds take take their foot off the gas. Well,
- 31:46Speaker 2: Saint John's whooped it up on Uh.
- 31:50Speaker 3: See it haul was it? Uh? Why am I trying
- 31:55Speaker 3: to blake? Yeah, Saint John's.
- 31:58Speaker 2: But they took care of business today, So I do
- 32:00Speaker 2: think there's something to be said for sometimes if if
- 32:03Speaker 2: you're a top seed, you know, hey, like Cal said, Hey,
- 32:06Speaker 2: we just got to get to the tournament. So if
- 32:08Speaker 2: you are a one or two senior comorin Shermany, you lose,
- 32:11Speaker 2: Like hell, if Sparty loses, can they still go to
- 32:14Speaker 2: the final four?
- 32:14Speaker 3: For sure? But Saint John's did not come out flat.
- 32:17Speaker 3: They came out guns blazing.
- 32:19Speaker 2: So oh and to your last part here you mentioned
- 32:23Speaker 2: how Pitt lost in the ACC tournament.
- 32:26Speaker 3: Did you see that call? Chris?
- 32:28Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you think? I do? It?
- 32:33Speaker 3: Like? I felt bad for Pitt, like you're you know again,
- 32:37Speaker 3: they were on the out out bubble looking in. But
- 32:40Speaker 3: that's how your season ends when a guy's And what
- 32:43Speaker 3: killed me was there was like point nine tenths of
- 32:47Speaker 3: a second left.
- 32:49Speaker 2: This player for Notre Dame put up a shot and
- 32:53Speaker 2: he missed it. And he didn't even think he got fouled.
- 32:57Speaker 2: In a sport nowadays, an NBA college where you see
- 33:00Speaker 2: guys complain about everything, whether they get fouled or not
- 33:03Speaker 2: or commit a foul, this dude didn't even make it
- 33:06Speaker 2: an he didn't He didn't notice anything in the world because.
- 33:11Speaker 3: He wasn't fouled.
- 33:13Speaker 2: So to see a ref kind of steal the moment
- 33:16Speaker 2: and knock out pit with point that seconds left out
- 33:18Speaker 2: with stuff, that game should have been an overtime. Yeah,
- 33:21Speaker 2: but that's part of college basketball. You have refs who
- 33:24Speaker 2: are no one's perfect. But yeah, that was a tough
- 33:27Speaker 2: one just because there really wasn't a foul at all.
- 33:31Speaker 2: And so for a season I like that when you
- 33:32Speaker 2: were a potential bubble team, that one's got to sting a.
- 33:35Speaker 3: Little bit of your pit.
- 33:36Speaker 2: So that that was a horrible call, and hopefully that's
- 33:38Speaker 2: the worst one we see all all for the rest
- 33:41Speaker 2: of the tournament, because it's just it happens. There will
- 33:44Speaker 2: be bad calls, but that one was top of the
- 33:46Speaker 2: list for me, So that was unfortunate.
- 33:49Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, you know how we we've we've mentioned
- 33:57Speaker 1: how we've talked a lot about the tournament, the the
- 34:01Speaker 1: conference tournaments and what they mean to different folks and whatnot.
- 34:05Speaker 1: And you know, obviously you're in agreements with Florida and me.
- 34:12Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going to the final four for sure.
- 34:14Speaker 1: I got to see where they what they got to
- 34:15Speaker 1: go through. But clearly Florida and Tennessee has finished strong,
- 34:21Speaker 1: especially Florida. But now that Auburn lost two in a row, right,
- 34:29Speaker 1: we know they had a three game lead they had
- 34:31Speaker 1: in the bag, and also as I mentioned, they didn't
- 34:35Speaker 1: come out with no energy. Shit, they lost one at
- 34:38Speaker 1: a buzzer in overtime, so it was at home. It's stings.
- 34:42Speaker 1: They've lost two in a row. If they lose, you know,
- 34:46Speaker 1: let's say they win a game then lose, then they've
- 34:48Speaker 1: lost three out of the last four. You know, last
- 34:51Speaker 1: week or the week before, we weren't really saying Auburn
- 34:53Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. Well now after losing, let's say
- 34:57Speaker 1: three out of four, right, h Does it all of
- 35:01Speaker 1: a sudden matter a little bit? They've lost two in
- 35:04Speaker 1: a row, does it now? Do they want to win
- 35:06Speaker 1: the sec or at least get on the good foot
- 35:09Speaker 1: and make it to the finals. Do you think that
- 35:11Speaker 1: really in the end means something? I don't know.
- 35:16Speaker 3: Is it one of those like you kind of like
- 35:17Speaker 3: want to just like get back like on the right
- 35:20Speaker 3: foot kind of deal a little bit?
- 35:22Speaker 1: But yeah, but not you know the fact that they played,
- 35:27Speaker 1: you know, they played strong in these games. So I
- 35:31Speaker 1: don't know, there's something to me now all of a sudden.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I feel like it would help them if they if
- 35:36Speaker 1: they win it. But they they played the toughest schedule,
- 35:39Speaker 1: They they performed the best against the toughest schedule, they
- 35:43Speaker 1: have the best wins. Yeah so, and their losses are
- 35:48Speaker 1: all really good. You know, So, I don't know what
- 35:51Speaker 1: are your thoughts. Do you think in the end, it's
- 35:52Speaker 1: still kind of where we were at a week or
- 35:55Speaker 1: two ago talking about them.
- 35:57Speaker 3: I mean, I still think they'll be the favor to
- 36:00Speaker 3: win it all in Vegas. I don't think battle change
- 36:03Speaker 3: I when.
- 36:04Speaker 2: I've watched him play, I've been impressed that they have
- 36:06Speaker 2: so many different guards. I know, every time I watched
- 36:09Speaker 2: him play, their big man Broom has tough games. But
- 36:12Speaker 2: every time I don't watch him play, he's like twenty
- 36:14Speaker 2: five and twelve.
- 36:14Speaker 1: So if you're player of the year behind flag, tell
- 36:19Speaker 1: me to turn the TV off.
- 36:20Speaker 3: But every time I watched him play, he struggles. He
- 36:22Speaker 3: plays bad. So I don't know. I guess I have
- 36:25Speaker 3: a Jakes on him I was unaware of.
- 36:27Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's up there for Player of the Year.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah. His numbers are insane. I
- 36:31Speaker 3: just never see that side.
- 36:32Speaker 2: If I've only watched five Ouburn games, take clear, they'd
- 36:34Speaker 2: be really bad. So they have the talent obviously there.
- 36:39Speaker 2: They have like three to four guards are all very talented.
- 36:41Speaker 2: You got a big that could be player of the
- 36:42Speaker 2: year or maybe he's the favorite player of the year.
- 36:46Speaker 1: So so you don't you don't think they need to
- 36:49Speaker 1: win the SEC now.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Even if you lose your first game, that could be
- 36:52Speaker 2: just one of those like huge like okay, like reset buttons.
- 36:56Speaker 2: I do think when a game of SEC would help. Now,
- 36:59Speaker 2: obviously they're not gonna pull up Virginia. I don't see
- 37:02Speaker 2: them losing round one because that team is too good.
- 37:05Speaker 2: But around two, round three, round four, you know, maybe
- 37:07Speaker 2: there is like, hey, we're grooving, you know, just a
- 37:12Speaker 2: team like a BYU or a Sparti where you kind
- 37:14Speaker 2: of come in hot.
- 37:15Speaker 3: There's something to be set. But to counterpoint this, we've.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Also seen teams who come be super hot have a
- 37:23Speaker 2: great conference tournament and then you waste all your energy. So, hey, god,
- 37:27Speaker 2: we finished the year, we finished the regular season hot,
- 37:30Speaker 2: what our conference tournament and shit we.
- 37:32Speaker 3: Got bounced out second round.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Well, you know, maybe the take was empty. Maybe you know,
- 37:36Speaker 2: like there's so many different ways you can combat this. Chris, Yeah,
- 37:39Speaker 2: but I do I like to say whether whatever the
- 37:43Speaker 2: SEC result is for Aubert and I still think they're
- 37:45Speaker 2: gonna make it to the second weekend of the tournament,
- 37:47Speaker 2: you would assume, uh, but there's somebody said.
- 37:50Speaker 3: Forgetting your mojo back right and going to the tournament
- 37:53Speaker 3: with your right foot forward and playing some good ball,
- 37:56Speaker 3: because momentum is the thing.
- 37:58Speaker 2: But this team, i'll so had a team fight on
- 38:01Speaker 2: the plane this year and they had to land it
- 38:03Speaker 2: and divert the playing aircraft due to like a brawl
- 38:07Speaker 2: and the plane. But then they would have won that
- 38:09Speaker 2: game the next day of Verse Duke. So you know
- 38:11Speaker 2: who knows, like this team made us built a little
- 38:14Speaker 2: bit differently mentally. Uh, but they're still very talented. But
- 38:19Speaker 2: you didn't they lose to Duke or well, okay, you're right,
- 38:25Speaker 2: Oh sorry, but I know they had they had a play,
- 38:27Speaker 2: they had the game after their play they okay, oh sorry, yeah,
- 38:32Speaker 2: the game after their But I'm.
- 38:35Speaker 1: Pretty sure they.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Won their game after they had their mid air fighting.
- 38:40Speaker 1: So I will say this, I think they should win
- 38:45Speaker 1: their first game just to get the flow back. If
- 38:48Speaker 1: they lose a tight game the second second game, no
- 38:51Speaker 1: big deal. But go on into the tournament three and
- 38:56Speaker 1: their first game ain't gonna be shipped anyway more likely,
- 39:00Speaker 1: and if it is, they're in trouble we'll see what
- 39:03Speaker 1: their their their matchup would be in the second round.
- 39:06Speaker 1: But I think they gotta beat Old Miss. I really,
- 39:09Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not saying they can't win the championship.
- 39:11Speaker 1: They gotta beat Old Miss or they won't win the championship.
- 39:14Speaker 1: That's that sentence sounds stupid, but I do think. I
- 39:18Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that now that they've lost two,
- 39:21Speaker 1: do they really want to lose three in a row?
- 39:23Speaker 1: I don't think so. Now, Baallea and Kentucky of late,
- 39:27Speaker 1: let's tighten this up a little bit too. In some
- 39:29Speaker 1: of these segments, Bailey and Kentucky of late, we know
- 39:34Speaker 1: they can score. I mean, this is like crazy, some
- 39:39Speaker 1: of these scores. But of late, they have found a
- 39:46Speaker 1: defensive threat. I don't know how you put it, because
- 39:51Speaker 1: both of them are good at defense per se, especially Kentucky.
- 39:56Speaker 1: But they found something here and if they can summon that,
- 39:59Speaker 1: if they keep that, the sky's the limit, especially for Bama.
- 40:05Speaker 1: And I just don't know Kentucky. I'd be more worried
- 40:09Speaker 1: about defensively, but I have it's something to take note of.
- 40:13Speaker 1: We talked about how Florida and Tennessee finished really well,
- 40:16Speaker 1: especially Florida, Bama, Kentucky. Man, if they can keep this
- 40:20Speaker 1: defense they've been showing more of that could get them
- 40:24Speaker 1: pretty deep too, especially Bama.
- 40:27Speaker 2: I do think we're saying this year earlier that Kentucky
- 40:30Speaker 2: was struggled on defense. I do think on a given night,
- 40:33Speaker 2: their athletic abilities goes. They won the country and they
- 40:36Speaker 2: did play better defense versus their highly ranked teams. So
- 40:39Speaker 2: that's something you said for that that BYU coach came
- 40:41Speaker 2: overs had a great job there, And I'm with you.
- 40:44Speaker 3: For Bama, Hey, this has been their mL Like.
- 40:46Speaker 2: If you guys can play a little bit of defense,
- 40:47Speaker 2: you can cut down the nets. Because they can score
- 40:49Speaker 2: one hundred on almost anyone this year. So if they
- 40:52Speaker 2: can play a little bit of defense, yeah, like hell,
- 40:54Speaker 2: that'd be a great game to watch. Maybe that could
- 40:56Speaker 2: be like an Elite eight Sweet sixteen matchup this year
- 40:59Speaker 2: of Bama and uh Kentucky Austin. The Seeds might not
- 41:01Speaker 2: blood played the Sweet sixteen, but yeah, I think both
- 41:05Speaker 2: those teams have the pieces to make deep runs. And
- 41:07Speaker 2: if you play a little bit of defense offensively, not
- 41:10Speaker 2: any teams in the land can match you at all.
- 41:12Speaker 2: So I agree with those statements. And uh yeah, we'll see.
- 41:15Speaker 2: And if you're if you're Bama, like you're, you know,
- 41:19Speaker 2: what is your standard?
- 41:20Speaker 3: May you know? It maybe is the final four? Like you're,
- 41:22Speaker 3: you have loaded team, so they'll be curious.
- 41:25Speaker 1: They had a damn good game too, uh in against
- 41:28Speaker 1: Auburn in that he was all over the place. Speaking
- 41:33Speaker 1: of the ACC there was that stat floating around that
- 41:37Speaker 1: they literally had no rank versus ranked matchups this whole year.
- 41:43Speaker 3: I heard it.
- 41:45Speaker 1: What's that?
- 41:46Speaker 3: That that first time since the nineteen sixties, And.
- 41:50Speaker 1: I haven't done the research, but I heard that got
- 41:53Speaker 1: de bunks. But but the thing is, either way, if
- 41:57Speaker 1: it's just one ranked versus rank, that really ain't shit anyway.
- 42:01Speaker 1: So it's kind of interesting now that you'd assume Cooper
- 42:06Speaker 1: Flag's not gonna play the rest of the tournament, which
- 42:13Speaker 1: the coach was saying, Well, the MRI on his ankle
- 42:17Speaker 1: came back negative, and we're just it has a little swelling.
- 42:20Speaker 1: We're gonna see how he feels, how the trainer feels.
- 42:23Speaker 1: The broadcast team that they had, I guess you could
- 42:28Speaker 1: say the booth they were debating it. I just don't
- 42:31Speaker 1: think it's a debate whatsoever. In fact, my mind went
- 42:36Speaker 1: right to the second round at halftime next week, you know, like, okay,
- 42:43Speaker 1: so how close is the game? And there's no active
- 42:46Speaker 1: roster thing, so you just like there isn't pros so
- 42:50Speaker 1: you you literally would just put him in if you
- 42:53Speaker 1: need him. I wouldn't even play him next week if
- 42:57Speaker 1: I if I could, if I could get away with it,
- 42:59Speaker 1: because it happened on a Thursday, right, so that would
- 43:03Speaker 1: give you at least two weeks, maybe two weeks in
- 43:06Speaker 1: a day if you got a Friday game in the
- 43:08Speaker 1: sweet sixteen. So I don't even know why they're even
- 43:11Speaker 1: discussing it, especially if there's some swelling. There was serious
- 43:16Speaker 1: enough they're gonna go get an MRI. So yeah, me,
- 43:20Speaker 1: I mean the wheelchair thing is overplayed because they were
- 43:23Speaker 1: just having him keep off it. I didn't think that
- 43:25Speaker 1: was a big deal, but that one shook me. I
- 43:29Speaker 1: was like, what are you even talking about? There's no
- 43:32Speaker 1: way he should play, And I would try to get
- 43:34Speaker 1: two weeks out of it if I could. But with
- 43:37Speaker 1: that said, it really for me as intrigued to this
- 43:41Speaker 1: tournament because if Duke can still win it, it shows
- 43:44Speaker 1: their death want a little bit anyway, And then true
- 43:48Speaker 1: since we didn't get you know, these matchups during the year.
- 43:51Speaker 1: We finally get to see him play. So I think
- 43:53Speaker 1: it kind of adds interest to this ACC tournament.
- 43:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, I am really curious in speed ACC tournament.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Louisville just had a walk off win, so that was
- 44:04Speaker 2: kind of a fun game. They were down pretty big
- 44:05Speaker 2: in the second half that came back to win. Now
- 44:08Speaker 2: you get SMU versus Clemson, so I'm I'm really curious
- 44:12Speaker 2: to watch that game because again, Clemson had the win
- 44:15Speaker 2: versus Duke they had and SMUs kind of just had
- 44:19Speaker 2: a whole hum year due to the fact that they
- 44:21Speaker 2: see's been down quite a bit. But hey, a win
- 44:24Speaker 2: versus Clemson could be a huge piece for them. I
- 44:26Speaker 2: don't know where they are in the bubble talk. I
- 44:28Speaker 2: think they're pretty far back. But hey, if you're if
- 44:30Speaker 2: you're SMU, hey you knock off Clemson, maybe take on
- 44:34Speaker 2: Carolina If they beat Duke and ELISEI might sneak in
- 44:36Speaker 2: the back door. So and for Duke, yes, this one
- 44:41Speaker 2: of those games where hey, today when those both those
- 44:43Speaker 2: guys got hurt because Brown just located his shoulder too,
- 44:46Speaker 2: I guess he did it for the second time. This year,
- 44:48Speaker 2: so he's out as well, or he had to go
- 44:50Speaker 2: to the they took him the hospital. So it's one
- 44:54Speaker 2: of those.
- 44:54Speaker 3: Things where you you kind of want to see who
- 44:57Speaker 3: the rest of your players are. Obviously, playing without flag
- 44:59Speaker 3: was probably a huge adjustment, but they came out a
- 45:01Speaker 3: halftime Duke put out of ten o run. They won
- 45:03Speaker 3: the game by eight.
- 45:04Speaker 2: Yeah, if you did bet Georgia Tech, hey, hell they
- 45:08Speaker 2: were Tory point dogs.
- 45:09Speaker 3: That was easy. No sweater for that bet, So good
- 45:12Speaker 3: for those people. But yeah, yeah, I'm with you. We
- 45:16Speaker 3: talked about for the show.
- 45:17Speaker 2: There's no reason that you should play if you're ankles swelling.
- 45:20Speaker 2: You need to rest up until they need you at
- 45:23Speaker 2: the worst point, because once you rolled again then you're
- 45:24Speaker 2: probably done for the tournament, or it could be ligament
- 45:27Speaker 2: damage or you know, something bad could happen, so it's
- 45:29Speaker 2: not worth risking.
- 45:32Speaker 1: I don't even know why they were debating it. I
- 45:34Speaker 1: know that we live in this debate. We have this
- 45:38Speaker 1: politics stuff spread into sports now, as far as screaming
- 45:42Speaker 1: at each other for just a topic that doesn't even
- 45:45Speaker 1: need debated. There's no reason to.
- 45:47Speaker 3: Debate this this dog, I agree.
- 45:49Speaker 1: Are you about to say something?
- 45:51Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say, and hey, Louisville, like
- 45:54Speaker 3: I know you've been You've had a good year all year,
- 45:56Speaker 3: but your wins versus the top, like I think versus the.
- 45:59Speaker 2: Top twenty five was like one and six or zero
- 46:02Speaker 2: and seven. They just beat Stafford on a walkoff shot.
- 46:04Speaker 2: So this Louisville team, great story and you did win,
- 46:08Speaker 2: but man, you you sweep by Stanford, who's not known
- 46:12Speaker 2: for basketball this year, so uh, the ACC man definitely
- 46:15Speaker 2: not the year that they're.
- 46:17Speaker 3: Used to having. Uh, but shit, hope hopefully it gets
- 46:20Speaker 3: better this year.
- 46:21Speaker 2: And hey, if you're Carolina, did you best not lose
- 46:23Speaker 2: to a freaking Cooper flagless team because that would be
- 46:27Speaker 2: I'll be next show is about the bracket, but it'll
- 46:30Speaker 2: be a quick little ramp. If we lose to a
- 46:33Speaker 2: Duke team three times in a row without their start,
- 46:35Speaker 2: that would piss me off.
- 46:36Speaker 3: So another reason after you folks that work tomorrow, Chris
- 46:39Speaker 3: let be watching Carolina Duke.
- 46:41Speaker 1: And Duke's won nine in a row, Louisville has won
- 46:44Speaker 1: ten in a row. They are one in four against
- 46:46Speaker 1: ranked teams, and then Clemson's won eight in a row
- 46:50Speaker 1: and they've only faced two ranked teams. They are two
- 46:53Speaker 1: and zero. But that's kind of kind of interesting there.
- 47:01Speaker 1: I do have a question talking about the Big Ten.
- 47:06Speaker 1: Like obviously we already talked about the number one team there, Wisconsin.
- 47:13Speaker 1: Kind of a weird little ending for them a little bit.
- 47:17Speaker 1: But Michigan obviously, you know, really struggled down a stretch,
- 47:20Speaker 1: lost three in a row, like you said, fade, fad fade.
- 47:25Speaker 1: But Maryland, right, they're they're they've won a couple of
- 47:30Speaker 1: three in a row. Now looking at it there four
- 47:32Speaker 1: and four against you know, ranked teams, I do feel
- 47:37Speaker 1: like they can make the Sweet sixteen potentially. I got
- 47:41Speaker 1: to see where they're they're at obviously, but have they
- 47:45Speaker 1: made enough of a run to actually possibly make the
- 47:52Speaker 1: Elite eight or even I guess you could say Final four.
- 47:56Speaker 1: But is it really just Michigan that could do it,
- 48:00Speaker 1: or does a team like Maryland or Wisconsin have a
- 48:05Speaker 1: chance to get to the Elite eight or Final four.
- 48:09Speaker 1: The only way I see if Michigan gets by their
- 48:11Speaker 1: first team right and then the quick turnaround and they
- 48:17Speaker 1: don't have bigs, that's the only way I think they
- 48:20Speaker 1: can get to the Sweet sixteen. We've obviously talked about
- 48:24Speaker 1: those two bigs damn good. They just they're not crazy
- 48:28Speaker 1: good though to where you can just depend on them
- 48:31Speaker 1: even like when you know, speaking of crazy good, you know,
- 48:34Speaker 1: Purdue had that for the last couple of years, but
- 48:36Speaker 1: they still had other pieces that got them as far
- 48:39Speaker 1: as they did. Can them Maryland make the Elite Eight,
- 48:44Speaker 1: make the Final four potentially? Or is it just a
- 48:47Speaker 1: nice little run and the Big ten's pretty solid? But
- 48:53Speaker 1: you know it's not all that because Produce kind of
- 48:56Speaker 1: fall falling on the waist side of late two. You know,
- 48:59Speaker 1: they ended up finished.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Tied with you know, and yes, so with Wisconsin, man,
- 49:06Speaker 2: I you know, I talked about this year, but they
- 49:08Speaker 2: had kind of a higher flowing, more scoring offensive team.
- 49:12Speaker 2: They kind of finished the year ont of downhill funk,
- 49:14Speaker 2: which again is it's not the end of the world.
- 49:16Speaker 2: Maybe they've reset it, but not the way you want
- 49:19Speaker 2: season and per se, So I think that the hype
- 49:23Speaker 2: there stocking the Badgers.
- 49:24Speaker 3: Would be lower than it is right now. And for Maryland.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Okay, so I have another hot take and not quite
- 49:30Speaker 2: as cold as Michigan's take is. But the thing that
- 49:35Speaker 2: scares about them, Chris is they're only five deep, Like
- 49:38Speaker 2: legit when they when they played their last big game, Uh,
- 49:42Speaker 2: they literally had no bench points.
- 49:44Speaker 1: So not if they only have five players, they don't
- 49:48Speaker 1: have a bench at all.
- 49:49Speaker 2: They're yeah, they're they're bench players. Didn't score in one
- 49:53Speaker 2: of their last like big games to finish the year.
- 49:55Speaker 2: So when he got only five, that scares me a bit.
- 49:58Speaker 2: And the other part about it scares the me because
- 50:00Speaker 2: I've watched them late. They want me some money, but
- 50:04Speaker 2: their offense and moments just gonna be really stagnant, like
- 50:07Speaker 2: that game when they played when they played Michigan and
- 50:12Speaker 2: Michigan State. Both games, it's just like sometimes I think offensively.
- 50:16Speaker 3: It's like what are you doing?
- 50:18Speaker 2: Like they have the skills, they have a big da
- 50:20Speaker 2: a guard, but I've seen they have too many like
- 50:23Speaker 2: three to four minute droughts where they just looked lost
- 50:25Speaker 2: on offense, lost to the wrong word.
- 50:27Speaker 3: But they look like to just be in a bit
- 50:28Speaker 3: of a funk. And I don't think you can afford
- 50:31Speaker 3: to have that if you want to make a deep run.
- 50:33Speaker 2: So A, I think their offense isn't smooth enough to me,
- 50:37Speaker 2: and B what if you do get in foul trouble,
- 50:40Speaker 2: then what is your plan?
- 50:42Speaker 3: I will say? Obviously if you've.
- 50:43Speaker 2: Been basically played all five all year. Those guys are
- 50:46Speaker 2: smart and they don't get in foul trouble. But you know,
- 50:48Speaker 2: reps can be different.
- 50:49Speaker 3: Some reps.
- 50:50Speaker 2: You know, Defen's how you call the games. But uh,
- 50:53Speaker 2: I just think their lack of depth, which the coaches, Hey, that's.
- 50:57Speaker 3: What he's got. They call them like the Crab five
- 50:59Speaker 3: because I guess that's been a Maryland takes a long time.
- 51:01Speaker 3: But they have the Crab five.
- 51:02Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the Crab five, But I just think
- 51:04Speaker 2: they'll have enough depth. And their offense to me, isn't
- 51:06Speaker 2: smooth enough to make a deep keep run.
- 51:11Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna make the
- 51:15Speaker 1: lead eight or anything. I think Sweet sixteen's probably top out.
- 51:18Speaker 3: And like I said, with Michigan, I do think I
- 51:22Speaker 3: bet against him day one.
- 51:24Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we know you've been fading him for about
- 51:26Speaker 1: two weeks. But I do think there's a scenario. I
- 51:31Speaker 1: don't like the way they close. Maybe they'll wake up
- 51:35Speaker 1: here a little bit, but sure, but just that winning
- 51:39Speaker 1: the first even if they won by a couple of points,
- 51:42Speaker 1: and then they literally take on a team that doesn't
- 51:44Speaker 1: have bigs that well the quick turnaround could catch him,
- 51:48Speaker 1: you know, the opponent. So but I wouldn't have faith
- 51:54Speaker 1: unless it was like some kind of crazy upset in
- 51:59Speaker 1: their sweets. Six team matchup was like, you know, some
- 52:03Speaker 1: kind of random seed that doesn't have bigs or I
- 52:06Speaker 1: don't know, you know, a lot of things have to
- 52:07Speaker 1: go right basically, just the way I'm explaining it, and
- 52:11Speaker 1: that's generally not how that goes unless you are, like,
- 52:17Speaker 1: you know, a team like a Cinderella or whatever. Texas
- 52:21Speaker 1: Tech did get by Baylor, that just went final. Colorado's
- 52:24Speaker 1: dream of winning it all a lot. You know, Hey,
- 52:28Speaker 1: they gave they gave Houston a battle, though they didn't
- 52:31Speaker 1: lose by double digits, getting that it was Butler, that
- 52:35Speaker 1: Saint John's beat. YEP, Wisconsin win, Oregon win. I think
- 52:40Speaker 1: we talked about that. Illinois put up a bunch of points.
- 52:43Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting. Illinois was looking good early then
- 52:47Speaker 1: they were just starting to lose and then they just
- 52:50Speaker 1: got round by Duke. But they turned around. Gotta win
- 52:54Speaker 1: over Michigan, gotta win over Due. Yes, you could say
- 52:57Speaker 1: those teams weren't going the right direction, but it's still
- 53:00Speaker 1: kind of an interesting one to me. That team, and
- 53:05Speaker 1: you know, here we are in the quarters tomorrow, Illinois
- 53:09Speaker 1: and Maryland. Interesting now the trilogy between Marquette and Saint
- 53:15Speaker 1: John's is tomorrow at the same time, that's on Fox.
- 53:19Speaker 1: I think that's a really interesting matchup. North Carolina Duke.
- 53:21Speaker 1: We mentioned that especially Duke is a seven and a
- 53:24Speaker 1: half point favorite right now, Yu yep b yu Houston.
- 53:30Speaker 1: That's a that's a six o'clock game tomorrow. Really looking
- 53:34Speaker 1: forward to that. Texas Tennessee, we'll see. You know, Texas
- 53:38Speaker 1: has been scrappy, but I think this is probably the
- 53:42Speaker 1: end of the line. Wisconsin Ukola is a great matchup.
- 53:47Speaker 1: That's a good one. Oregon Michigan State, well, you know, quarterfinals. Hey,
- 53:52Speaker 1: Oregon is a pretty good opponent. There's some there's some
- 53:55Speaker 1: interesting matchups tomorrow and later tonight. Obviously, we still have
- 54:01Speaker 1: some good, good matchups at SMU Clemson and Oklahoma Kentucky
- 54:06Speaker 1: I think are gonna be oh in Kansas and Arizona
- 54:09Speaker 1: literally just played, literally just played, and Arizona's a three
- 54:14Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Tip off in about ten
- 54:18Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes.
- 54:21Speaker 3: Is Carolina that bad?
- 54:22Speaker 2: Or do you think that Vegas line tells you they
- 54:24Speaker 2: think Cooper Fly is gonna play tomorrow.
- 54:26Speaker 3: Like I know that Carolina they were not as good.
- 54:29Speaker 3: What do you think they got? I think they were
- 54:34Speaker 3: just when.
- 54:34Speaker 2: Carolina played Duke in Carolina this past Saturday, I think
- 54:40Speaker 2: they were a ten point favorite. So you're taking off
- 54:43Speaker 2: two and a half points, but it's at a neutral site.
- 54:46Speaker 2: Would I would think that'd be a little bit lower
- 54:49Speaker 2: like that? Just that, so you two and a half
- 54:52Speaker 2: points is worth like no home court. I don't know
- 54:56Speaker 2: that just that, And I know I'm sound crazy is this?
- 54:59Speaker 2: But maybe that's basically say, dude, Cooper Flag might play,
- 55:02Speaker 2: Like I thought that'd be closer to three to four points,
- 55:04Speaker 2: because Caroline's not garbage this year, Like they're not great
- 55:07Speaker 2: by the means at all, but they I think they're
- 55:10Speaker 2: lost by twelve.
- 55:11Speaker 3: I don't huh. That's I want to make me shave
- 55:15Speaker 3: my head a little brother. I guess we'll see. Yeah,
- 55:17Speaker 3: you and I both think he shouldn't play for various reasons.
- 55:19Speaker 3: But that line, yeah, it high.
- 55:23Speaker 1: It's one or the other, the other being that they
- 55:27Speaker 1: don't they think North Carolina kind of sucks.
- 55:30Speaker 3: Yeah, which is in there we're having?
- 55:32Speaker 1: I did ask the question being that they're one and
- 55:36Speaker 1: eleven against quad ones. Is this a quad one and
- 55:40Speaker 1: a half or is it a full quad one? Because
- 55:43Speaker 1: I think without Cooper flag and then old the other dude,
- 55:47Speaker 1: this might be a quad one and a half. So
- 55:48Speaker 1: even if they get the dub, I don't know, it
- 55:51Speaker 1: may be like one ten in one if that makes
- 55:54Speaker 1: sense to you, or one eleven in one.
- 55:57Speaker 4: I should say, so it's kind of like a draw
- 56:00Speaker 4: because they're not. Yeah, that's a that's a good question though,
- 56:05Speaker 4: and it's just I don't know, man, that's ridiculous if
- 56:11Speaker 4: he plays. But hey, you know, I'm a part time
- 56:15Speaker 4: media member.
- 56:16Speaker 1: What the fuck do I know? Boise stayed in Mexico.
- 56:19Speaker 1: That's a New Mexico. I should say. That's a good
- 56:24Speaker 1: I didn't know Mexico had a club.
- 56:26Speaker 3: Now.
- 56:26Speaker 1: That's a good.
- 56:28Speaker 3: War.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Yeah, man, they're in now. We we let them in
- 56:32Speaker 1: now because of the terrors. Bois stayed in New Mexico.
- 56:36Speaker 1: That's a damn good matchup tomorrow night as well. Yes
- 56:40Speaker 1: for the hardcorees out there, So yeah, I'm looking forward
- 56:45Speaker 1: to it.
- 56:45Speaker 3: Man.
- 56:46Speaker 1: It should be a good way to close any other
- 56:48Speaker 1: items that I know. You have one more thing you
- 56:51Speaker 1: want to talk about. And I will say for the record, guys,
- 56:54Speaker 1: he let me know about it. He let he gave
- 56:58Speaker 1: me a pre warning.
- 56:59Speaker 4: Now I will also add that I I gave him
- 57:05Speaker 4: all my seven topics, so he didn't.
- 57:08Speaker 1: Just naturally do that, you know, But he did let
- 57:12Speaker 1: me know about a question or a thought that he had.
- 57:17Speaker 1: But you can, you can finish up any other thoughts
- 57:20Speaker 1: you had before we get in to the uh to
- 57:23Speaker 1: the question that you had, but I thought was a
- 57:25Speaker 1: it's a good topic to debate.
- 57:28Speaker 2: My only other thing I want to go over was
- 57:31Speaker 2: how debatable could be or what kind of game we
- 57:33Speaker 2: could see with BYU and Houston. So I did a
- 57:35Speaker 2: little homework simply because on Google and saw that would
- 57:39Speaker 2: be why you played Houston this year? Houston kicked the
- 57:42Speaker 2: ship out of him eighty six to fifty five.
- 57:45Speaker 1: So it's only healthy.
- 57:48Speaker 2: How I don't may BYU sick that we got a
- 57:51Speaker 2: little but how first of all, how did Houston.
- 57:53Speaker 3: Forty six points and hold on?
- 57:57Speaker 1: They can score this year a little bit better and
- 57:59Speaker 1: they're like they got shooters this year.
- 58:02Speaker 2: You're right, Uh, I just I think that that game
- 58:06Speaker 2: should be fun tomorrow. Now again, I think Houston's all
- 58:08Speaker 2: those teams that they've shown. With Calvin Sampson, they're not
- 58:11Speaker 2: gonna take the tournament off. I think he's one of
- 58:12Speaker 2: those guys that wants to go and win it, and
- 58:14Speaker 2: with the way his boys are built, I don't think
- 58:16Speaker 2: that would sell them down.
- 58:17Speaker 3: For the March Madness Tournament.
- 58:18Speaker 2: But I think with the way BYU played, I would
- 58:22Speaker 2: assume they won't lose by twenty nine again or thirty one.
- 58:27Speaker 3: But I'm shit, that just wow. But that game is
- 58:31Speaker 3: a four and a half points for tomorrow. That should
- 58:33Speaker 3: be a fun one to watch. Uh.
- 58:35Speaker 2: If it's not a thirty point blowout, damn that that
- 58:38Speaker 2: really that shook me a bit. But Houston, Hey, they're
- 58:41Speaker 2: they're they're legit this year. I just didn't Oh okay,
- 58:44Speaker 2: I thought I miss read four and a half. It's
- 58:45Speaker 2: actually a seven and a half point spread for Houston.
- 58:48Speaker 2: So that's respect. But that should be a fun game,
- 58:52Speaker 2: kind of contrasting styles. BYU is gonna be jack up
- 58:55Speaker 2: Cord three. Houston's gonna be nowt good offense and they're
- 58:58Speaker 2: gonna want to try to make you work a lot
- 58:59Speaker 2: on a deeper So that should be a fun matchup.
- 59:01Speaker 2: Maybe kind of give you a vision, Chris, of how
- 59:04Speaker 2: you feel those teams will do in the tournament. Because
- 59:07Speaker 2: one thing is, you know you always talk about boxing,
- 59:09Speaker 2: you know, styles fights, that's and like you said, always
- 59:13Speaker 2: comes down to the draw, like, y what you could
- 59:17Speaker 2: you could be Maybe Florida is the best team in
- 59:19Speaker 2: the tournament this year, but if they played teams were
- 59:22Speaker 2: the complete opposite, Like there's always that something to be
- 59:24Speaker 2: said for like the style you play, because hell, a
- 59:27Speaker 2: couple of years ago when Oral Roberts went to the tournament, they.
- 59:32Speaker 3: Were a really fast, high temple team.
- 59:34Speaker 2: That Ohio State team was really good, but that was
- 59:36Speaker 2: the wrong team for Ohio State to play it in
- 59:38Speaker 2: a fifteen seed beat a two seed. So every year
- 59:41Speaker 2: you always get those you know, well, god, there they're
- 59:43Speaker 2: a half court team versus a fast paced team.
- 59:45Speaker 3: That's a bad matchup.
- 59:47Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't mean you're not as good as
- 59:48Speaker 2: a team, but for your seed, like you earned it.
- 59:50Speaker 2: But yeah, the matchups in this it's so big for that.
- 59:53Speaker 2: So again, if BYU draws.
- 59:56Speaker 3: Teams in the tournament who love to run the court, dude,
- 59:59Speaker 3: good luck being them. If you're a will.
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: Say just a little follow up on that game. We
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: talked about Houston BYU, that eighty six to fifty five
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: thrashing BYU. Shot from the field thirty seven and a half.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Not a good percentage. They were eight of twenty four.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: Very mediocre from the three, right they have especially yeah, yep,
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: and Houston shot forty nine percent from the field, and
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: they hit sixteen of their thirty four threes, so they
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: hit forty forty seven, sorry, forty seven percent, so literally
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: doubled them up on three point shots, which obviously when
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: you miss a lot, right, thirty seven rebounds to twenty four,
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: so fair. That kind of sums that up. So it
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: came down the threes. Now, I should have looked at
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: the box score and see if anybody missed time or whatever,
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: but that is something that it may have been. They
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: were just shooting the lights out. I guess I don't know,
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: because you're right, that was a that was an ass weapon,
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: all right.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: So but nonetheless, while that sound the same time as
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Caroline Duke, that is great basketball in all night who rock?
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: All right?
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: So to my debate topic before we see out here today,
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: UH heard on from ESPN people of Scott Van Pelt
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: talking about with Joel had already and it already said
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: about pretty much how he's heard over the years that
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: the committee basically barring some like you know, Cinderella teams
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: or some bubble teams, that the committee basically has their
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: brackets filled out by Friday night.
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: So a couple ways that took that first kind.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Maybe so going in knowing who are the teams that
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: are in the semis in finals of the conference tournaments, Yeah,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: just to clarify that so they know who's in there.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: So if there is some ndarrellas that are making the
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: semis or the finals, they know about them, but they
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: basically in a sense have them filled out Friday late
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: Friday night.
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: Yeah. And so my counter to this would be.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: It is kind of a disservice to teams who are
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: gonna win maybe the Big twelve, Big East SEC, because
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: maybe win your conference tournament should bump you up on
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: the seed line.
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: Like it's kind of a slap in the face to
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: whoever does win the SEC. Beatal tournaments here for sure,
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: and health end the Big ten.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: Those are three great conferences if you already have for example,
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: Michigan State, Edged State or Tennessee edge Stand.
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: Or Houston or Texas Tech. Like why why?
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: I just I don't like that idea, because if a
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: team like Texas Tech or a team like Maryland or
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: Tennessee does win their conference tournament, I think that should
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: move them up a seed. But if, hey, if the
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: if the books are closed Friday night, Like, what what
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: service does that do to the teams who are making
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: that extra push or winning that upset game or maybe
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: losing a bad one. I just I would like to
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: have the mindset of my head that the committee obviously
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: you're gonna have roughly where people are, but Saturday should matter,
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: because if it doesn't matter to the committee, it's kind
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: of a disservice to the kids to bust their asses
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: and play great basketball and not get rewarded for what
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: is supposed to be some of the more fun games
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: of the year.
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: What are your thoughts of that, Chris?
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: Just to add contexts, I guess they do announce a
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: handful of like a month or something like that. Three weeks.
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: They do put up the top sixteen, all the four seeds,
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: the top four seeds, I should say, Okay, not that
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: that means anything, but they do show their hands a
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: little bit. And I've never I've kind of noticed some
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: movement based off the bracket all when a team makes
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: a push to the finals that shouldn't be that that
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: are like maybe like an eleven seed or something, and
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: they improve it a little bit. But it's something that
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: I haven't tracked at all, and who knows how long
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: they've been doing this or if that's always been the case.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: Obviously there's more with with the you know, with technically
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: more teams, you know, not a lot more, but there
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: are more teams because they play those Monday and Tuesday
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: games or Tuesday Wednesday games. So yeah, I mean, it's
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: hard to have an opinion on it unless I went
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: back and tracked Okay, where were they in the bracketology
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: and that you mean to tell me they made to
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: the finals and they didn't move up a seat and
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I do if that's the case,
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: and it's only a team that it gets them off
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: the bubble, if they made the semis their conference in
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: a loaded like the SEC, or if like if old
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: Miss got to the finals right now, right, they'd have
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: to be some damn good teams. I've seen some movement
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: when it came to that they didn't even have to
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: necessarily win the finals. But I haven't tracked it so
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: that that'll be kind of interesting to see if there isn't.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: There's really no way you can track it, obviously because
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: we don't know the actual field. But brah, you know,
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: like Leonardo is pretty freaking good, so he doesn't miss much,
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: so that's why he may not get the exact stuff right.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: But as far as just in so, yeah, I do
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: think that there is something to be said about that
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: in a negative light, but I also could see it
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: really comes down to how much movement there actually is.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: Because I agree with you, it does kind of put
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: like a really like how finalized are they are? They
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: literally only gonna tweak it because they have to because
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: someone made it, and that knocks everybody down. Yeah, it's
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: something to think about. But let's make sure we look
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: at the on the bubble, you know, right now, the
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: last bracketology last four buys Arkansas, Van de Utah State,
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: West Virginia, last four in San Diego State, Xavia, North Carolina, Texas.
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: First four out Indiana, Ohio State, Boise State, Colorado State,
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: next four out Dayton. You see Irvine, Wake Forest and Nova.
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: So let's see, let's keep an eye on it and
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: see sure if we did see a boost or yeah,
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: they literally didn't do shit even though this team did
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: you know, went that far or whatever. I like that. Yeah, okay,
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: because that's a good question. Yeah, it would be kind
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: of a bummer if you made the semis in a
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: deep conference and you didn't get minorly awarded for it. Yeah.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe going from an eight seed to a seventh seed,
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: which is a big deal because he gets to avoid
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: the one you know, stuff like that which would matter.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: And obviously you're never getting like you said, no, you're
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: not going to be in the conference room because we
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: don't get that privilege. But it would be kind of
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: a disservice to I think anyways, do that.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: In the flip side, too, is a team like Auburn
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: who's had the craziest schedule and the way Bama had
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: to close their last seven games. Ultimately, I don't think
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: they should be overly judged in this tournament either, you know.
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: True. Yeah.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: So one other quick thing is just it listened to
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: Scott Vanapel. You said he made all his own rule
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: up this year for the for college basket. If a
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: player does the the little circle figure like, we need
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: to review any care of you.
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: It should be a tech because you know, it's kind
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: of thing Chris weher like you see the college kids
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: point the rep the little circle of the air thing.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Oh, it's in the pros.
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: It's way more to the pros. Is so bad, I know, Yes,
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: the pros has become awful.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: They could touch the thing and they're like, no, dude, no, no,
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: you know it's like their will to win is like, dude,
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: just calm down, buddy. You know you touched it.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: We can see you touched it. Dude, I know, I know,
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: I know.
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: Ah.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: It is funny, It's it's tough. You can. You can
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: tell that the coaches have now made that adjustment though
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: they're like, dude, I'm not even looking at your way. Dude,
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: you lie about it.
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: You probably got some players you trust more than others
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: for sure, exactly.
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: Yeah, like you say that in practice, dude, just stop,
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: you know, all right, And that is a good call.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: I like that.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: And this will be the last one of the year.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: First of all, hey, great pick last week. Chris Loyola,
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: Mary Loyol and Maryland beat Lee High.
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: On the year. Now again, is this crafty crappy. We're
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: getting to the point where it's hard.
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: To have that.
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: But this is a bad game. This is the game
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: you played tomorrow, the last.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: I forgot we had one.
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: I gotta throw this in.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: Okay, hey, I got I already got out of all
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: the sights and all that.
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: I will do a nice little slow preview. Okay, I'll
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: give you a second.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: Year conference slow tell the conference.
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: It's the Swacked Swack tomorrow at one o'clock.
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: So we're we're going to the Southwestern Athletic Conference, the
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: Swack as they call it. Uh, this isn't College Park,
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: not Maryland, College Park, Georgia. Uh, Grambling tomorrow, yep, tomorrow,
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: one o'clock. Grambling was twelve and twenty one on the year,
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: but they're in the seventies.
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: Baby, there they they Gramby boys went out without a fight.
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: They want to be at Linardi's bored. Grambling is playing
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: Alabama State. Alabama State's team name is the Hornets, So
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: the Alabama State Hornets are playing Grambling tomorrow, Chris Vegas. Actually,
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: this should be a good one. The points spread is
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: Alabama State's minus three and a half over under of
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: one thirty one.
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: Again, then there's no ticket price list. I think if
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: you go to the game and you wear teams cards,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: you get a door for free. So Grambling versus Alabama
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: State again, it's already gotten down as a winning year
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: because we're four to one.
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: Now hopefully make it five to one. This should be
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: a great game tomorrow at the same time.
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: And mind you, Wisconsin is playing so's Memphis and Wisha
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: Tassos Aubert Old Miss. But if you get bored and
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: you want to throw on Gramley to Alabama State at
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: the ESPN plus field free, what is your guys say
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: this game?
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: Brother, I ain't kind of man that you threw this
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: extra one at me, but you know we'll do it.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: So it was a tail of two halfs the last
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: time they met, just just two games ago. Oh wow,
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: I kind of an it. Yeah. So Gramlin had the
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: lead twenty four to twenty two. They went into the
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: locker room, felt pretty good about themselves, right, but they
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: got a shack They did obviously a little too good
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: about themselves because uh, Alabama State thirty seven to twenty
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: three in the second half.
- 1:11:27Speaker 3: Jesus care.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: Yeah, just took care of no problems whatsoever. Okay, Now
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: in that game, they both hit five threes, but Grahamlin
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: State only only took fourteen, whereas Alabama State took twenty three,
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: so that that was a huge, huge thing there. Points
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: out turnovers was a big one twenty to eight. So Grammlin,
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: you know, they were at home too, They were at home.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Grandma's stayed at home. And I don't know this one's
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: good they are. They do kind of line up with
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: the crappy crafty pick of the week though, because sixty
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: six point nine is what points per game is what
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: Grambling scores. They give up sixty seven point eight, so
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: that qualifies and Albama State the seventies folks, yep, and
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: and usually it's even you know, a couple points less
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: on defense but or more on defense. But whereas you know,
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: Albama State seventy three point eight they score, they only
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: give up seventy two point nine, so they do have
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: a little ledge there. But based off what I saw,
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: it's funny because they have like their last five, they
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: have three head to heads where you can see it's
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: kind of interesting that they that you pick this one.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Grambling State just because I know more
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: about the program from a football perspective, and the head coach,
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna let this one slide out
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: of it, and then they're gonna they're gonna be the
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: team in the second half that puts it away. So
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: I got Grambling State to pull the upset, my friend.
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: So you got a team that finished seventh in the
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: snow Ship, ninth in the Slack, eighth going to the
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: championship game. Will Gramley go to march madness? We wait
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: and see, folks, wait and see. All right, this will
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: be the last one of the year, though, because after
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: next week there's no more crappy teams left.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: Let's go, Oh, you'll find some kind of N I
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: T bullshit or something.
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: Now, it's not the n I T, it's the the
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: what is it, the the c the CVB. Yeah, there
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: will be a CEV. There could be a CVB pick
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: this year. The tournament below the N I T.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: Isn't the Is that the one where it's big ten,
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: big twelve and sec or whatever?
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: Uh? No, this is that's the The CVB is really
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: like the like the freaking like rule.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: I mean, then you're just kind of, yeah, pulling teams out, Yeah,
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: pulling teams out nowhere.
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: Yeah all right, but hey, next next show, Hey, bracket talk,
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: let's go again.
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be an amazing tournament this year.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: I say we have lots of fun, fun teams to
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: make the tournament. Uh, it's gonna be a blast. Auburn's
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: obviously gonna be the favorite.
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: Obviously.
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: If you're a Duke fan, you hope Cooper flags ready
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: to go, and everyone else, hey, Chip churn a chance,
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: you never know. The boys are out tonight. Enjoy the
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: rest of all this great college basketball will be back.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: Fill our brackets out soon.
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: Have a good night, piece,