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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and NBA, Jazz's OT loss to the Spurs, Best overachieving teams so far (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out. Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 1: with former Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiesa. He's forgotten more
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  Speaker 1: about the NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Come for the Hoops Talk. Stay for his list of
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  Speaker 1: the day.
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  Speaker 2: Our list today.
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  Speaker 1: Here's OC with basketball savant Gordy Chiesa on the Sean
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  Speaker 1: O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: A little fact check on myself here. When we talked
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  Speaker 3: about the odds... Preseason odds to win the major league
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  Speaker 3: baseball world series. The Milwaukee brewers were 35 to one,
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  Speaker 3: which was 14th among all teams in major league baseball.
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  Speaker 3: The Tampa Bay rays were 80 to one, which was
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  Speaker 3: 22nd out of 30 major league baseball teams. Those two
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  Speaker 3: teams squared off for the world series. And of course
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  Speaker 3: the brewers ended up winning it.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to.
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  Speaker 3: Talk baseball with Gordy Chiesa, but we are going to
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  Speaker 3: talk about overachieving relative to early season or preseason expectations
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  Speaker 3: with Gordy Chiesa, who's our resident NBA expert brought to
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  Speaker 3: you by our friends at Aladdin Industries, and he joins
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  Speaker 3: us now. Gordy, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: Sean, I'm doing well, thanks.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so the Brewers took down their first ever franchise
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  Speaker 3: World Series title, and that is in the league. where
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  Speaker 3: you're not supposed to be able to do it. You're
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  Speaker 3: not supposed to be able to beat the juggernaut spenders.
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  Speaker 3: There's no hard salary cap to encourage league parity. The
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  Speaker 3: Brewers and the Rays both defied expectations, and they squared
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  Speaker 3: off for a World Series. And Milwaukee takes the first
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  Speaker 3: one down in franchise history. As I'm sure you're acutely aware,
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  Speaker 3: there are a bunch of NBA franchises, including the Utah Jazz,
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  Speaker 3: that have never won an NBA championship. Who is this
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  Speaker 3: year's potential Milwaukee Brewers that could get the first one
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  Speaker 3: in franchise history?
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  Speaker 2: This year or next five years?
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with this year and then expand it out
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  Speaker 3: to the next five years.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: With that said, the Trailblazers won in 1977, so they're out.
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  Speaker 2: There's only a few teams left that never won a championship.
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  Speaker 2: And I would leave him then this year for a
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  Speaker 2: surprise would be the Memphis Grizzlies. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy. Sean, think about their team. Ty Jerome, Cedric Howard,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Wells, Cam Boozer, Zach Eady, Isaiah Stewart, Scotty Pippen Jr.,
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy Grant, who's vastly underrated. And so they have a
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  Speaker 2: good roster, and they're healthy right now. So with that question,
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  Speaker 2: I would say the Grizzlies this year, the next five years,
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  Speaker 2: it could be the Grizzlies. It could be Utah Jazz.
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  Speaker 2: It could be the Charlotte Hornets. All young teams that
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  Speaker 2: have– have youthful players that are drafting very wisely and
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  Speaker 2: they could develop and surprise everybody with the right chemistry
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  Speaker 2: and the right additions as far as free agency and
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  Speaker 2: trying to stay relatively healthy during the season.
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  Speaker 3: The Pacers and the Timberwolves are also on that list
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  Speaker 3: of teams that have never won an NBA championship and
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  Speaker 3: both have flirted with increased success recently. Did either of
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  Speaker 3: those franchises miss their window or could they still potentially
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  Speaker 3: pull it off?
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  Speaker 2: They could still pull it off, certainly, yes. They could, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was going more with Rudy Gobert, a big guy.
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  Speaker 2: They've got to get a big guy in that lineup somehow.
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  Speaker 2: So as great as Anthony Edwards is, and so is
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  Speaker 2: Amelo Boyle and those guys, they need a big guy
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  Speaker 2: as far as that. And with the Indiana Pacers, we
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  Speaker 2: love Harold Burton. Again, they need more, though. Will he
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  Speaker 2: do it? We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: You just mentioned Anthony Edwards, and he's out for a
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  Speaker 3: significant amount of time, as is Jaron Jackson Jr. for
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  Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz. And when you're talking about Ant-Man being
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  Speaker 3: out for the Timberwolves, let's say until December, maybe comes
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  Speaker 3: back slightly after Christmas, what does that do to that team,
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  Speaker 3: not only in the early portion of the season and
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  Speaker 3: for playoff seeding well down the line, but just rounding
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  Speaker 3: into form at the right time and maybe being behind
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  Speaker 3: the eight ball where everyone else is getting that team
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  Speaker 3: chemistry and all that stuff built up?
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  Speaker 2: Again, so they're going to try to, in their world now,
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  Speaker 2: is that they're going to try to hold down and
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  Speaker 2: just be competitive until they get Edwards back. And then
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  Speaker 2: he gives them that jump start, that unbelievable spark. He's
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  Speaker 2: so ultra-talented. So the question that would be right now is,
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  Speaker 2: can LaMelo Ball, can Jaden McDaniels, can those guys hang there?
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  Speaker 2: Can Rudy Gobert give them another opportunity? rim protection as
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  Speaker 2: far as playing that. And Imo DeSumo, who's a very
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  Speaker 2: good player, can he step in Edwards' part and be
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  Speaker 2: a starter versus a sixth man? And can young, again,
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  Speaker 2: can young Terrence Shannon come in and score points for them?
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  Speaker 2: So it's the unknown. It makes it so interesting. And
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  Speaker 2: that injury is such a factor. So the question is
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  Speaker 2: always this, Sean, what team can overcome, relatively speaking, Major
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  Speaker 2: injuries that still remain competitive versus going like an eight-game
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  Speaker 2: losing streak where suddenly when your star player comes back
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  Speaker 2: and all players, you're so far behind, it's too late
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  Speaker 2: to catch up then. That's the question, as always, with
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  Speaker 2: most of these teams, including the Jazz right now. Jazz
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  Speaker 2: played last night shorthanded. They battled unbelievable. The Spurs had
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  Speaker 2: a back-to-back. They got here at 2 o'clock in the morning. objectively,
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  Speaker 2: they hung in there to win the game. I call
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  Speaker 2: it winning ugly, but for the Spurs' point of view,
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  Speaker 2: for the Jazz, it was really a tremendous effort. He
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  Speaker 2: just fell short in the overtime where they couldn't make
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  Speaker 2: a shot, and the Spurs' defense locked in. So suddenly,
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  Speaker 2: the end of that game where the Spurs couldn't score,
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  Speaker 2: the Jazz held them. It was flipped in the overtime
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  Speaker 2: where the Spurs defensively put a body on everybody, hounding
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  Speaker 2: and pounding, and the Jazz couldn't shoot straight and had
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  Speaker 2: four turnovers, and that affected the game.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, when you see an effort like that from a
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  Speaker 3: young Jazz team that is now without one of their
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  Speaker 3: most important players, even in a loss, what does it
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  Speaker 3: do for you on the coaching staff? What does it
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  Speaker 3: do for morale? There's no moral victories anymore for this
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  Speaker 3: Jazz team, but you've got to take every day as
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  Speaker 3: it comes. So what does a performance like that do
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  Speaker 3: for this Jazz team?
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  Speaker 2: It tells them that we can play with anybody, and
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  Speaker 2: they could. The Spurs that are running up world champions, ironically,
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  Speaker 2: the Jets played the Spurs again on Monday night. So
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  Speaker 2: they get a do-over on the road in San Antonio.
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  Speaker 2: So with that said, it's encouraging signs. Your point is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely well taken. There's no more victories in professional sports. However,
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  Speaker 2: there's a trend line, and that's where the Jets are.
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  Speaker 2: As always... It's self-inflicted with a younger group. The Jazz
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  Speaker 2: really aren't a young team. The most talented guys are
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  Speaker 2: the young guys. But overall, the Jazz are right in
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  Speaker 2: the mid-tier as far as age group. So they've got
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  Speaker 2: to correct that turnover problem. The Jazz had 19 turnovers
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  Speaker 2: at home and an overtime loss. And so the question,
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  Speaker 2: as always, is was it the defense of the Spurs? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it was. Was it self-inflicted? Yes, it was. And so
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  Speaker 2: there's that fine line where if you don't shoot straight
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  Speaker 2: in the game, you've got to protect the ball. And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: the Jazz have not done that. The Jazz, 19 last night,
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  Speaker 2: for the first five games, Jazz averaging 7.2 miscues a game.
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  Speaker 2: And that's passing turnovers, Sean, offensive fouls, and those dreaded
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  Speaker 2: things called illegal screens. Sean, here's the rule about screening action.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a layman's term, and for
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  Speaker 2: the listeners right now, Why would a big guy want
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  Speaker 2: to waste a foul setting a legal screen, we'll say,
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  Speaker 2: on pick and roll offense? So here's the teaching point
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  Speaker 2: about it, is that the screener has to get control
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  Speaker 2: of his body, pop his feet to the ground. You
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  Speaker 2: hear the pop. If I'm the dribbler on a pick
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  Speaker 2: and roll, or if I'm the cutter on wide screening action,
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  Speaker 2: I don't accept the screen if I don't hear the pop.
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  Speaker 2: No pop, I don't go. And what that does, that
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  Speaker 2: increases tremendously what? better timing, and less what? Offensive fouls. So, Sean,
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  Speaker 2: you're the king of pop.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone's ever called me that. I'll
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  Speaker 3: take it, Gordy. Gordy Chase is our guest here.
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  Speaker 2: You're setting screens. You and James Peterson, and, you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: James Peterson's team, in case you're wondering, forget about the
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  Speaker 2: Jazz and the Spurs. The James team won it the
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  Speaker 2: other day. They were down 17 and won the game.
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  Speaker 3: All because of James' strong efforts and a comeback. This
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  Speaker 3: is Gordy Chiesa talking a little NBA basketball. One of
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  Speaker 3: Weber State's finest, Dame Lillard. He's well-respected and loved around
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  Speaker 3: the NBA, I think even more so here in Utah
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  Speaker 3: than in other places. And the Portland Trailblazers are off
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  Speaker 3: to a hot start. How sustainable is it?
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  Speaker 2: Very much, yes. The Trailblazers... Team building. They've done a
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  Speaker 2: good job. They get Dane back on a discount price
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  Speaker 2: because the Bucs are playing. The Bucs had a buyout,
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  Speaker 2: and he's making a whole bunch of money from the Bucs.
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  Speaker 2: So the Trailblazers, his former team, which loves him, they
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  Speaker 2: brought him back, and he is playing well. Dane right now,
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  Speaker 2: this is Dane's first 18th season in the NBA. It's
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  Speaker 2: a long time. And that small body, age 36, and
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  Speaker 2: he's averaging 21.7 points per game and shooting 42.9 from three.
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  Speaker 2: And he's really basically not even the best player in
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  Speaker 2: the team. The best player in the team is Denny Adia,
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  Speaker 2: who has an unbelievable all-around game. He's a strongman. player.
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  Speaker 2: He's from Israel. He can score, he can shoot, he
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  Speaker 2: can drive, he can pass, and he can steal. It's
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  Speaker 2: his quick numbers, which illustrates what he's done for the Trailblazers.
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  Speaker 2: averaging 22.3 points per game, 6.7 rebounds, 6.3 assists, and 1.3 steals.
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  Speaker 2: And add to that, Sean, he's an Israeli guy that's
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  Speaker 2: so assertive. He led the NBA last year and the
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  Speaker 2: whole season in most drives per game. Amazing. It's not LeBron.
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  Speaker 2: It's not Maxie. It's not anyone else. It's Denny Abdiah.
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  Speaker 2: And so he drives the ball into the basket. He
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  Speaker 2: puts so much stress on the defender, on his feet
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  Speaker 2: and legs, to be able to stay in front of him.
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  Speaker 2: Most guys can't. And he makes a play for everybody
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  Speaker 2: on his team. So Dane Lillard is really the benefactor
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  Speaker 2: of Denny Abdiah driving. And it's really helped him. And
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  Speaker 2: John Moran. who's an unbelievable, talented player, though misguided, is now,
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  Speaker 2: to his credit, he's learned from his past mistakes, been
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  Speaker 2: a model citizen, and that's part of the reason why
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  Speaker 2: they're winning, besides the big guy, Donovan Klinger. So the
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  Speaker 2: Jazz play on Halloween at 1 o'clock at the Delta
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  Speaker 2: Center versus the undefeated so far, Trailblazers. And tonight, though,
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  Speaker 2: in Portland, the Grizzlies undefeated play the Trailblazers in that city,
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  Speaker 2: and someone's gone to lose.
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  Speaker 3: Which of the teams that have performed well so far,
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  Speaker 3: and we're just getting started in this NBA season, is
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  Speaker 3: least believable for Gordie Chiesa? Like, whose success right now
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  Speaker 3: is most fragile in your mind?
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  Speaker 1: Cavaliers. Cavaliers.
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  Speaker 2: They're 3-1 right now. I haven't brought them yet so
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  Speaker 2: far into it. So I would say the Cavs right now.
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  Speaker 2: and also the Lakers at 4-1. I love Lucas and Magic,
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  Speaker 2: I get it, but they don't really guard philosophically right
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  Speaker 2: now still, and they need more on the defensive side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball. And that's why it's so important. What
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  Speaker 2: you want to do in any sport is be good
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  Speaker 2: on both sides. I don't mean dominate, just be good.
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  Speaker 2: So say in the NFL, if you have a good defense,
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  Speaker 2: which you should, It keeps you having every single game.
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  Speaker 2: And if your offense is somewhat lesser but it's still good,
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  Speaker 2: you have a chance to watch score points. It's the
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  Speaker 2: same thing in basketball. It's the same thing in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: If you move the runner instead of hitting the home run,
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  Speaker 2: I always laugh all the time. You know, Sean, I'm
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  Speaker 2: actually a baseball junkie. All right? So, you know, metrics
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  Speaker 2: say this awful thing. It's either a home run or
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  Speaker 2: a strikeout. Really?
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Watch the World Series, what happened. Everybody moved runners over
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  Speaker 2: and played fundamental baseball. And the better team with fundamentals
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  Speaker 2: won the championship last night. It's no different in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: It's no different in NBA basketball. If you have fundamentals
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  Speaker 2: and you have an element of two-way sides of the ball,
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  Speaker 2: the chances of winning are much greater. And even better,
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  Speaker 2: if you start players in the fourth quarter NBA game,
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  Speaker 2: both guard, defend, and score, the chances of winning are
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  Speaker 2: absolutely tremendous.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, kickoff times have become a major topic of discussion
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  Speaker 3: this week in Utah, especially because we got a 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: kickoff assignment for the Holy War coming up next week.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching a finals game in the WNBA where these
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  Speaker 3: women had to play at 1230 Eastern time, started at
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  Speaker 3: 1030 our time, which is, of course, well off the
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  Speaker 3: normal schedule. body clock schedule. These are finally tuned athletes
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  Speaker 3: in pro sports, especially. Did you guys ever pay close
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  Speaker 3: attention to tip off times?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. We would cut back practice where if it
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  Speaker 2: was an early start, we wouldn't have a walkthrough that day.
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  Speaker 2: We had to walk through the day before. Yeah. We're
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  Speaker 2: very conscious of it, especially in playoff games and playoff situations.
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  Speaker 2: Rest is always better than practice. because the intensity is
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  Speaker 2: going to be so unbelievable. So we would adjust everything
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  Speaker 2: based on the time the game starts. And if you
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  Speaker 2: ever walk through a day, we'll say, of a late game,
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  Speaker 2: like a late start, hypothetically, that walkthrough would still be, what, very,
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  Speaker 2: very brief.
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  Speaker 3: What's your list today, Gordy?
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  Speaker 2: My list today, Sean, the San Antonio Spurs. I know
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  Speaker 2: they won last night, so the Jazz fans are not happy,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with them. But we've got to give
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  Speaker 2: the Spurs the credit. They're the 10 greatest San Antonio
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  Speaker 2: franchise players of all time. It's a hard list to
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  Speaker 2: do because there's so many great guys that play for
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  Speaker 2: the Spurs. Just quickly, the Spurs started in 1967 in
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  Speaker 2: the ABA as a charter franchise. They went to the
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  Speaker 2: NBA in 1976 where four NBA franchises entered the NBA,
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  Speaker 2: and they were the San Antonio Spurs. New York Nets,
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  Speaker 2: now Brooklyn Nets, Indiana Pacers, and Devon Nuggets. They're a
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  Speaker 2: proud franchise of Spurs. They won five championships, 1999, 2003,
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  Speaker 2: showing you in college, 2005, showing you in college, 2007,
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  Speaker 2: when you wanted to be in college, and 2014. They
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  Speaker 2: had five championships. Here we go. The 10 greatest Spurs players.
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  Speaker 2: Bruce Bowen. Five-time first-team all-defensive player, number 10. Number nine,
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  Speaker 2: Sean Elliott, blue teammate, two-time All-Star, NBA champion, 1999. Number eight,
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  Speaker 2: nickname was the A-Train, Artis Gilmore, Hall of Fame inductee, 2011,
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  Speaker 2: NBA champion. ABA All-Star, scorer, rebounder, shot blocker. Number seven,
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  Speaker 2: all-time greatest spur player. His nickname is The Claw, Kawhi Leonard.
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  Speaker 2: Future Hall of Famer, won a championship in 2014, MVP,
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  Speaker 2: finals 2014. All right, number six, he played last night, Sean,
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  Speaker 2: Delta Center, Victor Wembyama, the Frenchman. Future Hall of Famer,
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  Speaker 2: generational talent, first-team All-NBA, perennial MVP candidate forever. He's number six. Gordy,
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  Speaker 2: what are you, crazy? He's number six. Let's go number five.
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  Speaker 2: Manu Ginobili, the soul of the Spurs franchise. Ginobili was
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  Speaker 2: the soul of the whole franchise. Argentinian, Hall of Famer inductee, 2022,
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  Speaker 2: four titles. Stand out on both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: The number four greatest Spurs player. Nickname was the Admiral.
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  Speaker 2: David Robinson. Hall of Fame 2009. Two championships. Rebounded. Shot blocker.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible winner. The third greatest Spurs player, another Frenchman, Tony Parker,
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame inductee, 2023, four NBA titles. He was
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  Speaker 2: best in unbelievable playoff games. And let's not forget, he
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  Speaker 2: was the 28th pick of the draft back in 2001.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how great he was, and that's how people
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  Speaker 2: missed on him. The second greatest ever Spurs player, nickname
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  Speaker 2: was the Iceman. George Kerbin, Hall of Fame inductee, 1996,
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest ever ABA, NBA scorers. He had
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  Speaker 2: the signature 10-foot finger roll where no one could block
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  Speaker 2: his shot, and he was smooth as silk. And the
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  Speaker 2: greatest ever Spurs player of all time is Mr. Fundamentals,
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  Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, Hall of Fame inductee in 2020, five NBA titles.
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  Speaker 2: He was the unbelievable foundation for all these success. and
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  Speaker 2: there was nobody like him. Sean, quickly, just add to this. Sean,
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  Speaker 2: did you realize that besides all these Hall of Fame players,
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  Speaker 2: also the mascot of the Spurs is in the Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame of mascots, and his nickname is Coyote, alias
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  Speaker 2: Derek Dirk, was inducted in 2007. So, Sean, even the
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  Speaker 2: mascots in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
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  Speaker 2: But let's not forget, Utah Jazz Basketball, that the bear
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  Speaker 2: is in the Mascot Hall of Fame. He was inducted
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  Speaker 2: in 2006. It was the late, great John Apsey, who
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  Speaker 2: was the bear for 25 years. Also, Sean is in
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  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. For mascots. So, Sean, you and
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  Speaker 2: I are way beyond just talking about sports. We love mascots.
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  Speaker 3: I got to look up every mascot that's in the
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  Speaker 3: Mascot Hall of Fame now.
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  Speaker 2: What about Swoop for the Utes?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Swoop is in the Mascot Hall of
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  Speaker 3: Fame yet.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I know, but we got to start talking about him.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: All right, we're going to start making a Swoop to
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame campaign, courtesy of Gordy Chiesa.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like it. Thank you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: What are you handing out for Halloween this year, Gordy?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Sean, it's right in front of me here, Sean. This
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: is perfect. It's all organized, not based on me, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: my wife. We have Kit Kats, we have pretzels, we
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: have Hershey bars, and we have Junior Mints.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: All right. That's perfect. So if you're in the Chiesa neighborhood,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: make sure you knock on that door and trick-or-treat that
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: you're going to get. That's a nice selection of treats.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: We found out.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Sean, think about it. So many people driving around our
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: neighborhood that drive like in these cars and they trick-or-treat.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: They're like 18, 19-year-old guys.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all the time.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, Sean.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: We have the oldest people in the history of Halloween
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: trick-or-treating in our neighborhood the drive cars caught sean even
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: even better than my car and he trick-or-treated after the
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: door hey happy halloween yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Uh you gotta tell them no treat you i'll give
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you a trick that's crazy i love it gordy uh
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: thanks for joining us today happy halloween sean we'll uh
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: we'll talk to you next week thanks gordy thanks sean
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: peace out