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Teacher Rachel DelTondo dead in driveway; bought $10,000 wedding dress then groom cancels wedding · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Grace on Sirius XM Triumph Channel one thirty two. Mistell Tondo,
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Speaker 1: it was a bright light. She didn't bolve anybody. She
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Speaker 1: didn't hurt anyone. I heard, like, I counted six shots
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Speaker 1: that I heard, but I had heard them before in
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Speaker 1: this back area, and I thought, well, it's this young
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Speaker 1: guy that lives back there when he comes holding my
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Speaker 1: son Loady's gun. Because I heard the shots that I
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Speaker 1: didn't hear anything else, So I went back to sleep.
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Speaker 1: I really don't want to believe it for her, and
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Speaker 1: I really don't. She is stunning, she is Statue West,
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Speaker 1: She's a workout efficionado, gorgeous of brunette, A young teacher,
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Speaker 1: everything in front of her, her whole life. She is
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Speaker 1: gunned down, dead shot in a heel of bullets in
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Speaker 1: her driveway, in her driveway? What happened? What's the motive?
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Speaker 1: Who's responsible? I mean, I see grace. This is crime stories.
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Speaker 1: Why did a teacher get gunned down in the home
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Speaker 1: driveway in a hill of bullets? There was no robbery,
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Speaker 1: there was no kidnap, there was no sex assault. Why
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Speaker 1: straight out to Jennifer Sakowski, crime online investigative reporter, And Jennifer,
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Speaker 1: what an article you wrote in crime online dot com?
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Speaker 1: You start at the beginning, don't leave anything out. I
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Speaker 1: want to start with the crime scene. Who, what, where? When? House?
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Speaker 1: So this story is based in el Equippa, Pennsylvania. Rachel Deltando, Okay, white, white, white,
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Speaker 1: Let's just right off the top. I lived briefly in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: Where is al Equippa? Well, where is that? Al Equippa
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Speaker 1: is a suburb of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. That's in the western
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Speaker 1: part of that great state. Alan, did I ask you?
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Speaker 1: I asked, Jennifer, Jennifer, where is it? It is a
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Speaker 1: suburb of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. That'll teach you, Alan Duke. Okay, Jennifer,
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Speaker 1: back to the story. So a suburb. From what I understand,
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Speaker 1: it's a fairly well to do suburb and very low
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Speaker 1: crime rate. That's what I knew about it. I didn't
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Speaker 1: understand exactly where it is. So kind of a bedroom
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Speaker 1: community to Pittsburgh. People that work in Pittsburgh that can
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Speaker 1: afford it will drive out as far as al Equippa
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Speaker 1: is my understanding. It's like, you know what I always
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Speaker 1: think of Jackie. I always think of the Dick Van
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Speaker 1: Dyke show. Not to date myself, but remember, didn't they
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Speaker 1: live in Rochester and he worked in the city and
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Speaker 1: so he would commute And I had never heard of
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Speaker 1: that growing up in Farmland. I didn't know what that was.
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Speaker 1: But that's what al Equippa is to Pittsburgh, I'm told so, Jennifer.
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Speaker 1: She's out in the sleepy suburbs as they call them,
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Speaker 1: and is in her family driveway. Okay, pick up again,
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Speaker 1: So Rachel DeLand. She was previously engaged, and she was
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Speaker 1: a teacher at Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School. At the charter school,
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Speaker 1: it's an online school where students learn from live certified
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Speaker 1: teachers through webcams. And in a minute, wait, woa wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: you're just giving me so much information. Hold on just
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Speaker 1: a moment. Two big red flags right there, not red flags,
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Speaker 1: but things of interest, Okay. And you know what I
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Speaker 1: always love with me is Ashley Wilcot, judge lawyer, founder
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Speaker 1: of childcrimewatch dot com, forensics guru Karen Smith out of Florida,
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Speaker 1: renowned psychoanalyst out of LA doctor Bethany Marshall, and of
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Speaker 1: course crime online investigative reporter Jennifer Sikowski. You know what
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Speaker 1: I love Ashley is? Now what was I going to say? Oh, yes,
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Speaker 1: you know what I love Ashley's When lawyers have their
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Speaker 1: little list of questions, and no matter what the witnesses,
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Speaker 1: they just read the next question. I would stun in
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Speaker 1: court as defense lawyers did that, and the witnesses would
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Speaker 1: say some of the most outrageous and mysterious things. And
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Speaker 1: I look at the lawyer and he just asked the
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Speaker 1: next question. It's like he didn't get it. Did you
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Speaker 1: hear what she just said? Jennifer Szikowski Crime online dot
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Speaker 1: Com just said, you know, she was engaged about six
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Speaker 1: months ago and it didn't go through. Well right there.
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Speaker 1: To me, that says, is that a potential suspect? What
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Speaker 1: happened with the wedding? Yeah? I mean, you don't plan
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Speaker 1: a wedding and get the dress and all that rigamarole
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Speaker 1: and then suddenly, bam, the whole thing's called off. And
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Speaker 1: she teaches at a charter school, which you know very
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Speaker 1: often is for super smart kids. It's my understanding about
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Speaker 1: charter schools. Ash. Yeah, so A, that's true. Charter schools
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Speaker 1: are advanced in terms of some of the curriculum that
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Speaker 1: they can offer and opportunities they can offer students. Number
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Speaker 1: two absolutely agree. I see it as a judge all
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Speaker 1: the time lawyers do that. They don't listen, and it's
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Speaker 1: really important in this case to look at every red
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Speaker 1: flag because being gunned down means most likely it was
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Speaker 1: someone that knew her or targeted her. And then number three,
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Speaker 1: now I forgot what I was going to say as too.
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Speaker 1: It happens when you have children. You just god right,
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Speaker 1: it does. It's really awful, but we don't say o
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Speaker 1: MG on Cime stories is just food for thought, doctor
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Speaker 1: bethany jump in. I mean to have a wedding go
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Speaker 1: up to you know, a couple of months before. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I was so overwhelmed um doing hill In and Larry
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Speaker 1: King and a radio show and all that. I can't.
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Speaker 1: I just said, I just can't do the the dress
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Speaker 1: and the invitations and all. David and I one day,
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Speaker 1: it was on a Tuesday, we said, Okay, we're getting married,
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Speaker 1: so when should we do it? And I said, how
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Speaker 1: about Saturday? And we got married on Saturday. I did
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Speaker 1: an overnight delivery of a wedding dress from some mail
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Speaker 1: order catalog and two sizes because I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: would fit me. And I was tempted to wear my
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Speaker 1: cowboy boots, but I didn't. I went to DSB. You
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Speaker 1: got a little pair and they're beautiful, the shoe outlet,
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Speaker 1: and we had a bunch of flowers and a bunch
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Speaker 1: of food, and we got a piano player and a
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Speaker 1: preacher and my dad and I walked down the aisle. Nancy,
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Speaker 1: I remember your wedding photo. I remember you were wearing
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Speaker 1: a satin dress and you held a bible. Doctor Bethany
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Speaker 1: showed it on your show the next day, and you
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Speaker 1: looked gorgeous, and you store is so happy. I will
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Speaker 1: never forget that wedding photo. But I like the backstory
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Speaker 1: that you ordered two dresses. Alan. Don't you dare interrupt
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Speaker 1: this moment from me, Dick, don't you dare because you
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Speaker 1: cannot possibly understand what this means. You just actually made
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Speaker 1: me tear up. That's my whole point, Doctor Bethany. You
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Speaker 1: don't get all the way to a month or two
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Speaker 1: before your wedding and then cancel. Am I the crazy
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Speaker 1: one here? Well? No, I mean this gorgeous young woman
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Speaker 1: thirty two thirty three years old, not only was she
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Speaker 1: planning a wedding, she had ordered a ten thousand dollar
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Speaker 1: wedding dress. I mean this was going to be a
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Speaker 1: big event. And then at the wedding Wait minute, I'm
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Speaker 1: choking on that a ten thousand dollars Jennifer Zigowski, Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're on probation. You did not tell me the wedding
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Speaker 1: dress cost ten thousand dollars. Yea, what it did? It did?
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Speaker 1: Good cravy to me by a fancy new York City
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Speaker 1: designer ten thousand dollars dress in which they had to
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Speaker 1: put about half down. Rachel's mother put about half of
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Speaker 1: the payment down, so nearly five thousand dollars. As a
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Speaker 1: matter of fact, it was such a scandal, such a
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Speaker 1: drama in this little community that she had put so
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Speaker 1: much down on her wedding dress and was losing the
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Speaker 1: money because the engagement was broken. It was actually on TV.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to the segment KD KATV in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: When Rachel got engaged, mom took over planning a big
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Speaker 1: time wedding, including a nearly ten thousand dollar gown to
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Speaker 1: be handmade by a New York designer. There was a
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Speaker 1: custom dress had to be made to her measurements. The
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Speaker 1: family put down a deposit of more than four thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars that, according to the contract, was non refundable and
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Speaker 1: non transferable under any circumstances. Lisa del Tondo says she
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Speaker 1: got that from day one. I was told that this
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Speaker 1: is binding. I knew what this thing said. They bought
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Speaker 1: the dress and and Gregory for the bride in doormant
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Speaker 1: Rachel del Tondo was measured. The family put down nearly
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Speaker 1: half it's made to order and there's no exchanges about
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Speaker 1: no refunds. I understood that. Four months after the contract
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Speaker 1: was signed, the wedding was called off. Lisa del Tondo
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Speaker 1: called the New York designer to see if they had
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Speaker 1: started on the dress and asked for a refund. I
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Speaker 1: called New York. I did yeah. He told me it
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Speaker 1: couldn't be done. Del Tondo says she told the local
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Speaker 1: bridal salon she'd pay the balance and take delivery of
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Speaker 1: the dress. I wanted the gown so I could sell it.
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Speaker 1: Del Tondo says the salon never delivered the dress and
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Speaker 1: refused to refund her money, so she took the owner
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Speaker 1: too small, claims court, and it says disposition default judgment
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Speaker 1: for plain of court. Papers indicate the salon owner did
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Speaker 1: not appear for the hearing. As a result, he was
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Speaker 1: ordered to pay the Del Tondos more than forty six
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. He had thirty days to write us a
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Speaker 1: check or file appeal, and he did neither, denied other
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Speaker 1: salon owner, Gregory Chericho, in an email, he told me
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Speaker 1: December got by me with two deaths in the family.
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Speaker 1: We will be sending a certified check out to del Tondo.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for your efforts. His attorney sent us a letter stating,
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Speaker 1: mister Chericho denies that Anne Gregory owed any money to
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Speaker 1: Miss del Tondo, as she was given the purchase contract,
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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to review the terms of the contract,
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Speaker 1: which unambiguously advised her that the custom order for her
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Speaker 1: bridal gown could not be refunded. You know, she was
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Speaker 1: very close to her mother too. In fact, that night
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Speaker 1: she was going to the family home, they had been out.
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Speaker 1: She had been out having ice cream. You know what.
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Speaker 1: You guys may laugh at me going through all of
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Speaker 1: these details, but that's what I loved about trying cases.
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Speaker 1: Karen Smith, you're the forensics expert. Every detail matters, and
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Speaker 1: I know it may not sound like it matters, but
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Speaker 1: it matters to me. Who was she out having ice
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Speaker 1: cream with? Why was her wedding called off? Why did
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Speaker 1: she believe so much in the wedding that she was
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Speaker 1: willing to spend ten thousand dollars on a teacher salary.
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Speaker 1: I was teaching school before I got into law school.
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Speaker 1: I know how little they make, and she sunk all
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Speaker 1: that money in let her mom pay for half of it.
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Speaker 1: I mean you could buy a used car for that.
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Speaker 1: For Pete's sake, every one of these details to me
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Speaker 1: in my mind matter. I can't tell you why, but
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you all of this has something to do
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Speaker 1: with her murder, Karen, Isn't it true? Absolutely? And one
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Speaker 1: of my mentors told me years ago when I first started,
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Speaker 1: that the devil is in the details, and if you
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Speaker 1: look for the small things, you're going to find the answers.
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Speaker 1: And I think that everything that you just outlined is
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Speaker 1: going to be really critical in this investigation. And the forensics,
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Speaker 1: believe it or not, is probably going to also play
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Speaker 1: a huge deal in this case. And there are some
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Speaker 1: questions that I have that I'd like some answers too
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Speaker 1: as well, like what maybe Jennifer's got them? I mean,
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Speaker 1: she held out on a ten thousand dollars wedding dress.
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Speaker 1: Who knows what she's got? Hans go hey, Karen, what's
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Speaker 1: your question? Because I'm interested if you're talking about forensics,
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Speaker 1: I want to know the ballistics, what kind of gun,
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Speaker 1: all from the same gun, things like that. But I've
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Speaker 1: got an idea, you've got a more sophisticated question. You've
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Speaker 1: got it. Well, we have neighbor reports, and they're conflicting.
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Speaker 1: You have neighbors that are saying they heard six shots,
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Speaker 1: you have other neighbors that are saying they heard ten
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Speaker 1: to twelve. Well, that's going to make a huge difference
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Speaker 1: to me in my forensic mind. Six shots means a
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Speaker 1: possible revolver no casings. Ten to twelve shots means a
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Speaker 1: semi automatic casings left at the scene. That can also
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Speaker 1: give us directionality that the shots possibly came from. You're
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Speaker 1: going to be looking for shoeprints in that area and
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Speaker 1: any evidence on her body of a possible distance between
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Speaker 1: her and the shooter. You know, gunpowder can be deposited
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Speaker 1: up to three feet away. This was an ambush style
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Speaker 1: shooting from everything that I can glean from it, and
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Speaker 1: she had multiple gunshot wounds to her chest. That is
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Speaker 1: a close grouping. So what that tells me is the
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Speaker 1: shooter may have not been very far away from her,
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Speaker 1: or they may have been a trained shooter. So I
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Speaker 1: have a ton of questions for that trained assassin will
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Speaker 1: be hired to shoot to gun down a young school teacher.
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Speaker 1: Interesting question, and I'm not saying it wouldn't happen. I'm
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Speaker 1: saying that's another forensics clue right there. And when you're
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Speaker 1: talking about six shots versus twelve shots, here's another thing
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Speaker 1: that sprang to my mind. Six shots could come from
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Speaker 1: one gun. Twelve shots conceivably could have come from two guns,
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Speaker 1: which would likely mean to assailants, or it could mean
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Speaker 1: the person stopped and reloaded, or it could be, as
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Speaker 1: you suggested, a gun that could shoot that many rounds
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Speaker 1: at once. So a lot of clues from just the
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Speaker 1: one conflict in evidence. Six shots more than six shots,
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Speaker 1: very very important, Jennifer Zigowski. Poor thing. You know, we
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Speaker 1: stop you every other sentence. Go ahead, go ahead. So
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Speaker 1: you left off at she was getting married, had gotten
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Speaker 1: a ten thousand dollars dress, put down five grand on it,
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Speaker 1: called the wedding off. There's got to be something that
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Speaker 1: that not. Let's go to that night. What do we
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Speaker 1: know about the jilted boyfriend or was she dumped? Well, okay,
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Speaker 1: so I think where we need to start, and this
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Speaker 1: is where things get really interesting. M No, no no, no,
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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no no no no no. Hold on, guys,
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Speaker 1: let's go right now. Beaver County District Attorney David Lows,
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Speaker 1: you're speaking having a meeting right now with all the
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Speaker 1: detectives that are working on the case. As you know,
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Speaker 1: this is an ongoing homicide investigation. We have an active
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Speaker 1: group with a Pensimenia State Police to beaver kind of
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Speaker 1: detective bureau and the Aliquippa Police Department working very hard together.
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Speaker 1: It's very sad. You have a very quiet and very
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Speaker 1: quaint neighborhood where this tragedy happened. We obviously regret this.
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Speaker 1: At preparatorsivities for the families. The Alquippa name gets thrown
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Speaker 1: out there a lot, and it should not. This was
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Speaker 1: a very nice, quiet neighborhood and to have this invade
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Speaker 1: any family is sad. We're working hard to solve this
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Speaker 1: problem together the police to portments of ever kind who
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Speaker 1: worked very well together. Well, let's notice who as we
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Speaker 1: have one. It's shameful that this woman was painted with
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Speaker 1: the police report that had been written that did not
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Speaker 1: result in criminal charges. It was a personal vendetta against
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Speaker 1: her at the time, a personal vendetta against a schoolteacher,
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Speaker 1: a broken engagement practically at the altar. Jennifer Zagawski Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, What is he talking about?
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Okay what he's talking about. So there was an
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Speaker 1: email that was sent out to multiple media outlets, school officials,
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Speaker 1: and also two acquaintances of Rachel on October twenty sixth
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Speaker 1: of two thousand and seventeen. That email contained a report
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Speaker 1: which was reportedly written by an Aliquippa police officer who
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Speaker 1: found Rachel in two sixteen in a parked car with
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Speaker 1: the engine off and windows steamed with her seventeen year
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Speaker 1: old student. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, tell
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Speaker 1: me that again. So she was found in a parked
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Speaker 1: car at alex with the hospital, with the engine off,
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Speaker 1: in the windows covered with steam, with a seventeen year
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Speaker 1: old student. The report said, Rachel didn't what was this
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Speaker 1: at night? Yes? That is correct. You know what, Jennifer,
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Speaker 1: How many times have I told juries nothing good happens
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Speaker 1: after midnight? Okay, you need to be at home. And
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Speaker 1: this goes for you too, Bethany Marshall, you're the neely
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Speaker 1: wad Get home, get off the roads, come on. Everything
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Speaker 1: happens after midnight. I don't get it. What is she
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Speaker 1: doing out with a student? Now, this was in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the day and they were parked almost anywhere.
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Speaker 1: I would think it was a troubled student, and she
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Speaker 1: was talking to the student. When I was teaching, before
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Speaker 1: I got into law school, I never had a student
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Speaker 1: in my car because there was never a point or
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Speaker 1: there was no reason I have a student in my car.
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Speaker 1: But I could have maybe stretched my imagination and thought, hey,
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Speaker 1: it's a troubled kid they're talking about as grace, but
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Speaker 1: being in a parking lot that's not the school or
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Speaker 1: his house or somewhere where they had gone after school
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Speaker 1: for ice cream or something like that to talk. No,
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Speaker 1: and the windows all steamed up. Jennifer, that looks bad,
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Speaker 1: And well, are you telling me there was a police
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Speaker 1: report but no charges of that on that Yes, that
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Speaker 1: is correct, and you know, backing off of what you
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Speaker 1: just said, it certainly didn't seem appropriate by it by
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Speaker 1: any means. And then on top of it, she told
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Speaker 1: the responding officer she did not want her kiance to
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Speaker 1: know that she was with the boy, and she claimed
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Speaker 1: that he was just a friend in the end. That
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Speaker 1: could all be true. Wait, wait, wait, that could all
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Speaker 1: be true. It could be were there any I mean,
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Speaker 1: it looks bad, it does. It looks bad. But if
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Speaker 1: the first thing that came out of her mouth was
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Speaker 1: I don't want my fiance say to no, no charges
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Speaker 1: were filed. I don't know what was going on in
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Speaker 1: that car, but I am getting a recent report right
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Speaker 1: now in a recent wire out of al Quippa. It's
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Speaker 1: from their local channel eleven. The dad is breaking down
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Speaker 1: in tears. The dad is breaking down in tears over
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Speaker 1: what's happened to his daughter, and they are saying that
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Speaker 1: she was shot at least ten times. That gives us
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Speaker 1: a lot of answers. Forensics expert Karen Smith, Rachel is
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Speaker 1: shot at least ten times with bullets from a semi
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Speaker 1: automatic pistol. She was getting out of a car at
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Speaker 1: her mother's home when she was hit by a barrage
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Speaker 1: of bullets and she died right there and the family driveway.
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Speaker 1: This is what we know. We know her family's devastated
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Speaker 1: and right now her phones and computers are being searched
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Speaker 1: for information. Wow, that's telling me a lot. Right now,
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Speaker 1: we are live in al Equippa trying to find out
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Speaker 1: the latest regarding the death of a beautiful young teacher,
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Speaker 1: intrigue surrounding her possible relationship with a teen boy she taught.
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Speaker 1: There were never any charges on that, but Apparently that's
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Speaker 1: what led to the breakup of her engagement just before
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Speaker 1: she was to walk down the aisle beautifully friendly. Knows
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Speaker 1: everybody knew, everybody talked to everybody. I don't know why
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Speaker 1: that happened. I really don't think you're safe going anywhere,
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Speaker 1: but one house up you're not. So who's a life
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Speaker 1: like that? To who's a life like Savantes or Antoine
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Speaker 1: Lasses or Rachel del Tondo? They speak to the heart
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Speaker 1: of Aloqua because we are so close. Straight back to
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Sagowtski, crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Also with
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Speaker 1: me renowned La psychoanalyst, doctor Bethany Marshall, forensics expert Karen Smith,
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Speaker 1: and judge and lawyer founder of Childcrimewatch dot Com Ashley Wilcot.
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Speaker 1: Jennifer to you, Okay, we've gone through the whole thing
21:34
Speaker 1: about the wedding dress and what happened a hell of bullets.
21:38
Speaker 1: But you know what's interesting in that interview you pointed
21:41
Speaker 1: it out to me, as did Alan Duke the mom
21:45
Speaker 1: her mother is doing all the talking, not her. Now,
21:48
Speaker 1: this had to be bypower of deduction. After she was
21:52
Speaker 1: caught in the car with the teen boy, the wedding
21:57
Speaker 1: had been called off. But right there in that time sequence,
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Speaker 1: right there, Jennifer, she said to the cop, I don't
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Speaker 1: want my fiance to find out, but he did find
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Speaker 1: out because they broke off the wedding, right correct. That
22:13
Speaker 1: is that is the way it founds. Of course, that
22:17
Speaker 1: hasn't been completely confirmed. But when you look at the
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Speaker 1: timeline of when that segment aired regarding getting the money
22:25
Speaker 1: back in the dress, it's also happened in February twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 1: The leaked email had not come out yet, So that
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Speaker 1: tells me that the fiance. Now, let me understand something, Jennifer,
22:39
Speaker 1: The leaked email came out before she was murdered, Is
22:43
Speaker 1: that right? Correct? That came out in October of twenty seventeen. Okay,
22:48
Speaker 1: let me get my time straight. So she's engaged to
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Speaker 1: be married, she gets his custom wedding dress. She's caught
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Speaker 1: in the car with a boy. She says, don't tell
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Speaker 1: my fiance. Somebody did tell the fiance because he breaks
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Speaker 1: off the wedding. So in this interview, you notice doctor
23:08
Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, the mom is doing all the talking, not her,
23:13
Speaker 1: and the community's trying to help her get her money back,
23:16
Speaker 1: and she's sitting there with her tail between her legs
23:19
Speaker 1: because she is the only one that knows why the
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Speaker 1: wedding was canceled, and all these people are trying to
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Speaker 1: help her. She's the only one that knows about the
23:30
Speaker 1: team boy at this point, right see, I see a
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Speaker 1: young woman in her early thirties who's embroiled in a
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Speaker 1: crisis and may not even know what a crisis she's in.
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Speaker 1: She's been caught in the car with a seventeen year
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Speaker 1: old student. Her fiance now has called off the wedding.
23:47
Speaker 1: They're in a conflict on public TV with a bridal
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Speaker 1: dress shop, and I just see all these enemies swirling about,
23:58
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like a murder mystery to me.
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Speaker 1: It's like, who's the enemy? Is that the owner of
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Speaker 1: the wedding shop? Is that the family of the fiance?
24:06
Speaker 1: Is that the fiance himself? What about the parents of
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Speaker 1: the seventeen year old? How are they feeling about this?
24:12
Speaker 1: I can't imagine if I had a seventeen year old
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Speaker 1: and that child was caught in a car with a
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Speaker 1: school teacher, I might be full of hatred too. So
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Speaker 1: you have this mother talking to the daughter on television,
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Speaker 1: and I get the feeling that the family is really
24:28
Speaker 1: rallying around their adult child, trying to help her. And then,
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Speaker 1: as one of your guests pointed out, the hail of
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Speaker 1: bullets comes on Mother's Day in the family driveway, which
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Speaker 1: suggests a vendetta against the whole family. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: child's in the crisis, the young woman's in a crisis,
24:47
Speaker 1: the family's in a crisis, the whole family is targeted.
24:51
Speaker 1: I just keep thinking back on hearing her voice in
24:56
Speaker 1: that newscast. We are learning new details right now in
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Speaker 1: the investigation to the death of a beautiful young woman
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Speaker 1: shot dad and her parents' driveway late Sunday night in Aliquippa.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm understanding Jennifer Szikowski that she had just come
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Speaker 1: from an ice cream shop. Yes, that is correct. That
25:20
Speaker 1: is what her family members said. That she was enjoying
25:23
Speaker 1: an ice cream with friends and returned and got out
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Speaker 1: of the driveway Mother's Day at her mother's home, and
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Speaker 1: the bullets came right at her, hit her in the
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Speaker 1: rust and she was gone, just like that. Yeah, I'm sorry.
25:41
Speaker 1: And can I add this is Ashley. Can I add
25:43
Speaker 1: one more theory that no one's mentioned yeah jumping. Listen.
25:47
Speaker 1: I see youth who commit crimes every single day, and
25:51
Speaker 1: nobody's talked about. What if this seventeen year old is
25:55
Speaker 1: a jilted lover who makes a bad choice and guns
25:59
Speaker 1: her down. That's another possible, very real possibility. Guys, I
26:05
Speaker 1: wonder well, my mind is going in so many different directions.
26:10
Speaker 1: We know that reports are that Rachel was in the
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Speaker 1: car it was one fifty am, almost two o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning with the teen. Why was he out at
26:23
Speaker 1: that time? That to me means it was not innocent
26:26
Speaker 1: that late at night. Why was he out and about
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Speaker 1: at that time? And his parents didn't know anything about it?
26:33
Speaker 1: The window steamed over, the engine running again. She begged
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Speaker 1: officers not to tell her for yance quote because he
26:40
Speaker 1: would get mad. Now police find text messages and snapchat
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Speaker 1: messages suggesting Rachel and the teen had some sort of
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Speaker 1: relationship that can't be good, and she was suspended for
26:57
Speaker 1: one month after this incident. One month now, Ashley Wilcot,
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Speaker 1: you're the juvenile judge and lawyer founder of child crimewatch
27:08
Speaker 1: dot com. The school suspended her, Now if they had
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Speaker 1: believed that there had been a sex relationship, between her
27:16
Speaker 1: and the boy. Under law, they would have to report it,
27:19
Speaker 1: wouldn't they. They would have to report it. If and
27:21
Speaker 1: this is where the if is, if he were under
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Speaker 1: seventeen at the time it occurred, at least in the
27:28
Speaker 1: state of Georgia, he was okay, they would have to
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Speaker 1: report it. Absolutely. My fear is that the school did
27:37
Speaker 1: an investigation and said, oh, not enough information, not enough evidence,
27:42
Speaker 1: so we don't need to report it. That's not their decision.
27:45
Speaker 1: That happens, but they should have reported it immediately. Well,
27:49
Speaker 1: the police knew about it, so what was there to
27:51
Speaker 1: report The police knew about It's not like the police
27:54
Speaker 1: didn't know. And not only that, if there had been
27:57
Speaker 1: a sex relationship, which would likely have been a dutory
28:00
Speaker 1: rape scenario, she would have been prosecuted. But nothing happened.
28:06
Speaker 1: That says to me there was not a sex relationship. Yeah.
28:09
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. What I do know is
28:11
Speaker 1: she's dead. She was murdered, and whatever happened between her
28:15
Speaker 1: and the boy, I mean, does not call for the
28:18
Speaker 1: death penalty. I know that much. And I've got her
28:21
Speaker 1: father and mother breaking down in tears because their daughter's
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Speaker 1: gunned down in their driveway Jennifer Szikowski Crime online dot
28:30
Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, pick it up right there? What more
28:33
Speaker 1: do we know? Well, another interesting aspect to this all. I,
28:39
Speaker 1: of course the police did know about this, but when
28:43
Speaker 1: this happened in February twenty sixteen, they did not go
28:48
Speaker 1: to the school to let them know. The only way
28:51
Speaker 1: the school found out was through this leaked email, which
28:56
Speaker 1: was sent out anonymously. That tells me someone was out
29:00
Speaker 1: to get her exposed. They wanted this expose right there.
29:04
Speaker 1: Hold on, that's a major clue. And you're right, doctor
29:09
Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall and Karen Smith. I need you two ladies
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Speaker 1: on this, doctor Bethany, um number one, if someone is
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Speaker 1: going to go to the extent of leaking that email
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Speaker 1: or the was it the police report or what was
29:24
Speaker 1: on the email? Jennifer, Well, yes, it contain multiple reports
29:30
Speaker 1: from the police, from state and federal agencias I should
29:35
Speaker 1: say databases, and those emailed reports contain internation such as
29:40
Speaker 1: social security numbers and other identifying information that isn't readily
29:46
Speaker 1: available to the public through public open records releases. And
29:51
Speaker 1: because of that, because of that, what because of that?
29:55
Speaker 1: As state investigation followed, there was more than regarding the
30:00
Speaker 1: Alexippa Police Department. What were you going to say, Allen?
30:03
Speaker 1: Besides the police report, the emails that were sent from
30:07
Speaker 1: an anonymous actually fake email address said that this teenager
30:12
Speaker 1: had a quote relationship with the teacher over text messages
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Speaker 1: and through Snapchat. Okay, repeat that one more time, Allen.
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Speaker 1: The anonymous email also said that Deltondo and the teen
30:28
Speaker 1: had a quote relationship through text messages and also over
30:34
Speaker 1: the social media site Snapchat. Guys. Rachel was suspended from
30:39
Speaker 1: her teaching position and removed from the classroom, penning an investigation.
30:43
Speaker 1: Now that's according to Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School CEO Brian Hayden. Now,
30:49
Speaker 1: this occurred after an email was sent to several people,
30:53
Speaker 1: including the school and members of the media, and it
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Speaker 1: included the Aliquippa police incident report describing the cops finding
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Speaker 1: her and the student together in a parking lot, an
31:05
Speaker 1: empty parking lot. I might add, now the instant report
31:10
Speaker 1: was two years old, but he is a mandatory reporter,
31:16
Speaker 1: the CEO, Brian Hayden, and he notified Pennsylvania Child Line
31:22
Speaker 1: as well as began his own investigation. She was never
31:25
Speaker 1: charged by police. That's very significant. Now, according to the report,
31:30
Speaker 1: you all know what happened. A guy was on a
31:32
Speaker 1: regular patrol about two o'clock in the morning. An officer
31:36
Speaker 1: noticed a car was parked near the old Equippo Hospital property.
31:41
Speaker 1: Cops went up to it. The windows were steamed over.
31:43
Speaker 1: The engine, this says, was not running. The officer identified
31:49
Speaker 1: Rachel and asked why she and the boy were there.
31:52
Speaker 1: According to the report, she told officer she was just talking.
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Speaker 1: He was her former student and they were friends. She
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Speaker 1: did not want her fiance to know she was part
32:03
Speaker 1: here because he would get mad. She maintained he was
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Speaker 1: only She was only there because the team was upset
32:10
Speaker 1: and needed somebody to talk to. Officers drive the team
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Speaker 1: home and told her there were better places to talk
32:17
Speaker 1: to a team than in a parked car at two
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Speaker 1: am in the morning. Now to you, doctor Bethany, Back
32:23
Speaker 1: to my original question before I went down a rabbit hole.
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Speaker 1: Who would be so vengeful they would send this email
32:31
Speaker 1: not just to the school, but to media as well.
32:36
Speaker 1: What about that? Could it be the person that murdered her?
32:39
Speaker 1: Absolutely and so vengeful They sent it from a dummy account.
32:43
Speaker 1: And my understanding is the state police started to investigate
32:47
Speaker 1: the local police because the policemen found her in this
32:51
Speaker 1: car with the steam windows, but never filed a proper
32:55
Speaker 1: child abuse report with authorities and has actually pointed out,
33:00
Speaker 1: you know, policemen are mandated reporters. They don't have to
33:03
Speaker 1: report child abuse. They report suspicion of child abuse. So
33:07
Speaker 1: there was adequate suspicion, the police officers should have filed
33:10
Speaker 1: another report with the local authorities. But I want to
33:14
Speaker 1: know who was stalking Rachel. Someone someone was stalking work.
33:19
Speaker 1: This is a form of cyberstalking. Was it the fiance's parents,
33:24
Speaker 1: was it the seventeen year old, the seventeen year old friends,
33:27
Speaker 1: the seventeen year old parents. Somebody was obsessed with the way.
33:31
Speaker 1: How could some kid get ahold of information like that?
33:35
Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott child crimewatch dot com. I don't see a
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Speaker 1: teen boy imaging to hack in and get police reports
33:43
Speaker 1: like that. I I do. I do see it and
33:47
Speaker 1: believe it or not. Some of these kids, and remember
33:49
Speaker 1: it was a charter school, right, so he may have
33:52
Speaker 1: had the ability and the skilled to do it. These
33:54
Speaker 1: kids can work computers. Now I don't know that he did,
33:58
Speaker 1: but I think it's absolute resolutely possible. But the one
34:02
Speaker 1: that really my gut, my gut, is are the police
34:06
Speaker 1: looking at the ex fiance because if he was the
34:11
Speaker 1: jilted fiance because it got broken off because of her
34:14
Speaker 1: actions and choices, well then he may have a lot
34:18
Speaker 1: of hostility towards her. Two Karen Smith, forensics expert, police
34:22
Speaker 1: are saying in the last hours actually that this was
34:25
Speaker 1: definitely a crime of passion. Why, well, you have a
34:29
Speaker 1: significantly narrowed down suspect pool at this point based on
34:33
Speaker 1: everything that we've heard. You have a jilted fiance, you
34:37
Speaker 1: have a state investigation of a police agency. You have
34:41
Speaker 1: a kid who was apparently involved in some way, shape
34:45
Speaker 1: or form with this teacher and victim. So you have
34:49
Speaker 1: all of these people who have motive. Motive, You have
34:53
Speaker 1: motive means an opportunity. It's going to come down to motives.
34:57
Speaker 1: And at this point, did you say earlier that she
35:00
Speaker 1: had ten gunshot wounds to her chest? Is that correct?
35:04
Speaker 1: At least? Listen, that is somebody who was either very
35:09
Speaker 1: close to her facing her when they fired those shots,
35:14
Speaker 1: or somebody who knew how to use a weapon, how
35:17
Speaker 1: to aim it, and how to do a close grouping
35:20
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what. That sets off some serious
35:24
Speaker 1: red flags in my brain and a path that I
35:27
Speaker 1: don't care to go down because that says police officer
35:31
Speaker 1: to me. And I hate to say that, but that's
35:34
Speaker 1: how we are trained. You shoot, you aim small, and
35:37
Speaker 1: you miss small, and that I don't see. Are you
35:40
Speaker 1: saying a cop did this? No, I'm not saying that.
35:43
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, if you have a leaked
35:45
Speaker 1: email that this husband fiance got a hold of and
35:50
Speaker 1: it was leaked from the police department, was it his buddy?
35:53
Speaker 1: Did this ex fiance do gun training with his buddy?
35:57
Speaker 1: And I know that's kind of a rabbit hole, but
36:00
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. You have to look at the gunshots,
36:02
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36:04
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Speaker 1: are investigating and searching for the truth in the brutal
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Speaker 1: murder of a young brunette teacher, Rachel Deltondo gunned down
37:53
Speaker 1: and her mother's driveway. Also, who would do that in
37:58
Speaker 1: the moms' driveway to so much heartache to her family?
38:02
Speaker 1: Right now, investigators are saying in the last hours it
38:05
Speaker 1: was definitely a quote crime of passion. They say the
38:08
Speaker 1: murderer of this young teacher in the driveway a crime
38:12
Speaker 1: of passion. And investigators say they will take all the
38:15
Speaker 1: time they need to find who killed Rachel Deltondo. They're
38:20
Speaker 1: canvassing the neighborhood. They're reviewing surveillance tapes, they are looking
38:26
Speaker 1: at cell phones and computers, texts, communications, and they're investigating
38:32
Speaker 1: everyone driving in Elquippa that area that night and was
38:37
Speaker 1: anywhere near the home. Take a listen to this. We're
38:43
Speaker 1: getting video cameras, we are downloading information, we are interviewing witnesses.
38:49
Speaker 1: We are doing everything we can investigating everyone that was
38:54
Speaker 1: driving around al Equippa that night that was anywhere near
38:57
Speaker 1: this young lady's house. They are confirming they do not
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Speaker 1: have a suspect. Ashley Wilcott, you were speaking, what was
39:04
Speaker 1: your question? Does anyone know what the ex fiance does
39:08
Speaker 1: for a living, is he in law enforcement? Related to
39:11
Speaker 1: law enforcement? Because of the discussion already about the shooting
39:16
Speaker 1: and the ten shots and where it was and was,
39:19
Speaker 1: you know, law enforcement trained would know how to kill
39:22
Speaker 1: someone in that manner. I think we're really extrapolating way,
39:27
Speaker 1: way too far. Jennifer Szigowski Crime Online by saying that
39:33
Speaker 1: this is cop related. Jennifer, Okay, So I think it's
39:37
Speaker 1: important to note after the first email will send on
39:41
Speaker 1: October twenty sixth of twenty seventeen, the very next day,
39:45
Speaker 1: in October twenty seventh and another email was sent to
39:49
Speaker 1: the press and acquaintances of Rachel alleging a cover up.
39:55
Speaker 1: That email said, quote the reason this report was not
39:59
Speaker 1: fire in February twenty sixteen with the Alexippa School Districts,
40:05
Speaker 1: Children and Youth Services and a mandated report to the
40:09
Speaker 1: Department of Education was because it was an an attempted
40:13
Speaker 1: to cover up, a cover up. What could that possibly mean, Jennifer,
40:18
Speaker 1: A cover up? It went way because the cop leaked it. Yes,
40:21
Speaker 1: I mean it could be that it could be that
40:23
Speaker 1: the cop leaked it, that somehow the fiancee got ahold
40:28
Speaker 1: of it. There's so many questions right now that that
40:31
Speaker 1: earth not answered quite yet. What we do know, though,
40:35
Speaker 1: is that a state investigation followed the leak reporting. Um
40:42
Speaker 1: you know that the email and the investigation was regarding
40:48
Speaker 1: the Alexhippa Police Department. The death of a young woman
40:51
Speaker 1: gunned down and her family's driveway in Beaver County is
40:55
Speaker 1: definitely a homicide. She was shot at least ten times,
40:59
Speaker 1: but she had already been a victim, the victim of
41:02
Speaker 1: a confidential information leak. Somebody within the police department or
41:07
Speaker 1: someone that could hack into the police department gave out
41:12
Speaker 1: this information and it ended in the breakup of her engagement.
41:17
Speaker 1: After that, she's gunned down in the driveway. The family
41:23
Speaker 1: inside had no idea what was happening. Now. One thing
41:28
Speaker 1: they're doing right now, Karen Smith, is they're trying to
41:30
Speaker 1: find out who was in the neighborhood. How can they
41:34
Speaker 1: do that, Karen, you're the forensic expert. Other than getting
41:37
Speaker 1: neighbors surveillance cameras, how about a sting ray. If they
41:41
Speaker 1: could get hold of a sting ray device where they
41:44
Speaker 1: can pick up all the cell phones that were there
41:47
Speaker 1: in the thirty minutes before and the thirty minutes after. Absolutely,
41:51
Speaker 1: that is going to be key. Get the cell phone
41:53
Speaker 1: tower pings, find out who was in the area, get
41:57
Speaker 1: her cell phone. You know, who was contacting her? Was
42:00
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about stalking earlier with somebody sending
42:03
Speaker 1: her multiple texts or multiple emails and he threatening emails
42:06
Speaker 1: or texts, phone calls that came into her. Do you
42:09
Speaker 1: want to talk to any of her contacts? Who was
42:12
Speaker 1: this x fiance? Again, we go back to motives. Who
42:17
Speaker 1: was in the neighborhood, who was around her house? This
42:20
Speaker 1: is you know, it's a small town. You've said, it's
42:24
Speaker 1: a small suburb. There can't be that many people, including
42:27
Speaker 1: the neighbors who were in that area at the time. Well,
42:30
Speaker 1: here's another clue. What about this, asked she Willcott general
42:33
Speaker 1: judge and lawyer. The moment they keep saying this over
42:37
Speaker 1: and over, the moment she put one foot on the driveway,
42:41
Speaker 1: the moment she stepped out of the car coming home
42:44
Speaker 1: from the ice cream shop she was gunned down. That
42:47
Speaker 1: says to me someone was lying in wait, because the
42:51
Speaker 1: likelihood of them driving by at that exact moment and
42:55
Speaker 1: shooting her is highly unlikely. That means, in my mind,
43:00
Speaker 1: somebody was lying in wait. That's a death penalty case.
43:04
Speaker 1: By the way, when you lie in wait way to
43:07
Speaker 1: en ambush somebody. That also says to me that this
43:11
Speaker 1: could have even been a hit job. Somebody had it
43:15
Speaker 1: out for her. They leaked this email, they leaked this
43:18
Speaker 1: information to ruin her, and then they either killed her
43:22
Speaker 1: themselves or hired somebody to do it. Can't you just
43:25
Speaker 1: see about locals in the area that had it out
43:28
Speaker 1: for her do this? Now, everybody's looking at the fiance.
43:31
Speaker 1: He's not a suspect, He's not a person of interest,
43:34
Speaker 1: all right. This is what I do know. Though, Jackie
43:38
Speaker 1: has come up with information that the Pennsylvania State Police
43:41
Speaker 1: have opened an investigation and to the Aliquippa Police Department
43:47
Speaker 1: on misuse of law enforcement data from the Law Enforcement
43:52
Speaker 1: Assistance Network. A police spokesperson, Ryan Turkowski has stated this openly.
44:00
Speaker 1: So all Equippa police are being investigated for misuse of information.
44:06
Speaker 1: Is it related to Rachel's case where they let somebody
44:10
Speaker 1: leak this police report that did not amount to a
44:12
Speaker 1: hill of beans. We don't know, but certainly certainly it is.
44:18
Speaker 1: Take a listen, detective police. Also, we're stating they have
44:25
Speaker 1: some home security surveillance video and they're looking at it
44:30
Speaker 1: right now. So back to you, Karen Smith, what what
44:33
Speaker 1: can they do look at surveillance video maybe you sting ray.
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Speaker 1: Not everybody has that, but you can borrow it. I
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Speaker 1: know New York City has it. That's not you know,
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Speaker 1: two hours away to trap all the cell phone usage nearby,
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Speaker 1: or maybe they could do it from cell phone data
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Speaker 1: from a tower. Karen, Absolutely, they can. They can do
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Speaker 1: all of those things, including the video surveillance, which will
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Speaker 1: show the vehicles that were in the area. You know,
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Speaker 1: if it's good video surveillance, you may get a peak
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Speaker 1: of who was driving that car at the time they
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Speaker 1: were in the area. You know, businesses, you can't go
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Speaker 1: anywhere today, Nancy without being videotaped fifty six thousand times
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Speaker 1: a day. They have to look at all the Well,
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Speaker 1: we've got another clue. We've got another clue. We have
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Speaker 1: just managed to find out what the teen boys mother
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Speaker 1: has to say Target Elevins. Red Girl obtained a copy
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Speaker 1: of the police report about that night and took it
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Speaker 1: to the student's mom. I don't know if you've seen this.
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Speaker 1: This is a copy of the police report. Are you
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Speaker 1: there a police report? The former student was her then
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Speaker 1: sixteen year old son. I really don't want to believe it,
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Speaker 1: but she's only just finding out about the incident. I
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Speaker 1: have been going around. According to the police report, the
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Speaker 1: officer asked the teacher what was going on. Both the
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Speaker 1: student and teacher said they were quote talking and we're
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Speaker 1: just friends. If this is true, why wasn't I notified?
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Speaker 1: Police send us a statement saying the incident was investigated
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Speaker 1: twice and was quote unfounded. That answer isn't good enough
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Speaker 1: for this mom. I'm looking to obtain a lawyer to
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Speaker 1: find out what is actually going on. That is from
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Speaker 1: local channel eleven wp XI, and they confront the boy's
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Speaker 1: mother and she knew nothing about it. Okay, So that's
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Speaker 1: given me a lot of clues to you, Jennifer Sakowski
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Speaker 1: crime online dot Com. Somebody hated this woman, this young teacher,
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Speaker 1: so much they ruined her reputation. They destroyed plans for
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Speaker 1: her wedding, She was suspended from school, the police decided
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Speaker 1: there was no further action to be taken on the case.
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Speaker 1: She was never charged, and now she's been gunned down
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Speaker 1: in the driveway. Where does it stand right now? Jennifer,
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Speaker 1: were right now, well, they obviously are investigating every possible
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Speaker 1: angle that they can. As you said before, who was
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Speaker 1: driving by their investigating it as a crime of passion.
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Speaker 1: At this point, they do not believe that there's just
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Speaker 1: a random killer running around in the neighborhood. And I
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Speaker 1: also did want to mention she Rachel spoke with The
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Speaker 1: Beaver Counting in December of twenty seventeen, and she said
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Speaker 1: she told the newspaper that the relationship with the boy
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Speaker 1: was merely a friendship, but she added that she was
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Speaker 1: receiving death threats following the emails and subsequent media reports. Man,
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Speaker 1: what a twisted tale this is all turned out to be.
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Speaker 1: From the broken engagement to the ten thousand dollars dress
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Speaker 1: couldn't get a refund, to the late emails, the death threats,
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Speaker 1: and now a cold blood did murder. I've ever actually
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Speaker 1: committed a crime, but if everything came out that I
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Speaker 1: would did when I was thirty years old, I would
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Speaker 1: be mortified. You have the same thought, man, This poor
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Speaker 1: woman has been so exposed by whoever was stalking her.
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Speaker 1: Rachel Biltondo ultimately had no privacy in her life. Well,
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Speaker 1: on the other hand, doctor Bethany, don't you kind of
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Speaker 1: sign up for that when you have a relationship of
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Speaker 1: any sort with a team boyd Right, But we don't
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Speaker 1: know what was going on for Rachel. I mean, because
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Speaker 1: I'm a clinician, I think was she bipolar which causes
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Speaker 1: hyper sexuality. Did she have lapses in judgment because of
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Speaker 1: substance abuse? Was she being stalked by her boyfriend or
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Speaker 1: her fiance at the time, and because of that she
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Speaker 1: turned to a student and again a fatal, fatal lack
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Speaker 1: of judgment. But I don't think anybody deserves to have
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Speaker 1: their whole private history exposed because somebody hates them and
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Speaker 1: somebody is stalking them. See, this is the problem that
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Speaker 1: we see with stalking. The stalker always investigates the victim,
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Speaker 1: exposes every wrongdoing in the victim's life, puts it on
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Speaker 1: the internet, puts it on the news, puts it everywhere.
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Speaker 1: And then the stalking victim is the one who gets
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Speaker 1: vilified in the end. And I don't think any of
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Speaker 1: us want my life on trial. You know what's interesting,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, you know what's interesting. And I know she
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Speaker 1: had some sort of an inappropriate relationship with the teen boy.
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Speaker 1: I know that, but my heart is broken for her.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right. Everything. Imagine the worst thing you've
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Speaker 1: ever done being exposed to the world. Your wedding's called off.
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Speaker 1: Everybody finds out about this bad thing you did, and
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Speaker 1: she ended up gunned down in her driveway, and you'll, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry to interrupt. But before being gone down,
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Speaker 1: she loses her job, She has a police report filed,
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Speaker 1: she has to move back in with her parents in
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Speaker 1: her early thirties. That might seem like a small detail,
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Speaker 1: but nobody wants to move back into the frontal home
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Speaker 1: at that age, probably has no financial resources. The wedding's
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Speaker 1: called off, there's social humiliation in front of all of
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Speaker 1: her family and friends. There's the threat of this police
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Speaker 1: report being continually leak. Then she's gone down in the
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Speaker 1: driveway on Mother's Day in front of friends. She's coming
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Speaker 1: home from an ice cream shop. So I know because
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Speaker 1: I see stocking victims in my practice. We see pictures
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Speaker 1: of this teacher, full of life. She's gorgeous, she's beautiful.
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Speaker 1: But this is a young woman who is truly being terrorized.
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Speaker 1: And we're going to find out pretty soon who was
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Speaker 1: terrorizing her. If you have information as to the murder
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Speaker 1: of this beautiful young teacher, Rachel Deltondo. Please call anonymous
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