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Episode 72 | Season 3 | Grace Moon Cycle | New Moon · Living the Moon Cycles

• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, I'm Wendy Wrights, and welcome to Living the Moon Cycles.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: Each episode is a conversation with me and my highly intuitive good friend Betty, where we share our extraordinary experiences of intuition.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: By living an organic way of being within the sacred geometry of cyclical time, we experience the full capacity of our consciousness.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_02: Our conversation and the information you hear in this podcast is streamed from a unified collective intelligence known as the 11th Alliance.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: I invite you to explore and enjoy a new knowing of yourself within Living the Moon Cycles.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: Live it and be it.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: New moon.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, Betty.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, Wendy.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: What a good thing.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: We do it every podcast.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: They might do the 30-second forward.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there they go again.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: Good thing they have that little button, isn't it?
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: I've used it many times myself.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um so Betty and I have been talking about the surrender moon cycle that we just finished up.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we're at the new moon of the grace moon cycle, but first we're going to talk about the surrender moon cycle.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I had a great conversation with our friend Paige about the surrender moon cycle too.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, what what was really involved?
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: It seems like a very action-packed moon cycle in ways, at least for me.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was really action-packed for you.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: And yet for me, it I'm not sure it's action-packed.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: I am uh still out in Denver, so it is there is movement going on.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's not like I'm in my little nest back in Florida.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: So there is uh action.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: There's not as action.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not not as much action as Wendy.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, no.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: So Wendy is back in the hotel.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, from we left off that I was leaving the expo, and I had left the expo and come back to the hotel.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: Same hotel.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: And uh was going to in the last two weeks uh move my stuff in and stay with the woodcarver um for a while and see how it went.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: And uh so Betty and I were looking at the whole moon cycle though, and those inspired next steps and the narrative, and then behavioral patterns and new perspective.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: And you have the change presented on the first two weeks, which is inspired next steps in the the narrative, and then you have growth in the behavioral patterns in the new perspective.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I was guided last night to sit down and plot uh everything that has happened in this relationship with the wood carver within the surrender moon cycle, because it truly did encompass the whole moon cycle, and it really did all the different parts of uh what has happened correspond with the different weeks, which is really super cool to go back and look at.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: And this is something that everybody can do.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_02: You can go back and plot what happened during the moon cycle according to all the different weeks, and it really gives you an idea of the change and growth that um your consciousness is ready for or is being presented to you.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so uh the moon cycle started uh with me making the decision to go back the first time and spend like six days together.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I was in the hotel and we were just spending time together, and then that went into the narrative, and uh so we were building a new narrative too at that time, and then I went to the expo right before the full moon and had all those fun adventures at the expo, and then right before the full moon is when I came back and we did the full moon podcast, and I was back in the hotel.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: And at that point I was gonna move my stuff in and stay with him after that, and it just so happens that that was the start of the behavioral patterns week of surrender.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: Orchestration.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: Orchestration.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh now I think I said that this was uh I have to correct it.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's a 520 square foot apartment that's on the back of the shop in the gallery of his work, and so um I didn't I I I went over there the first day and we were talking about where I was gonna put my stuff and it was a very challenging day.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: It was a challenging day because um, you know, I he had moved some stuff out, but not as much stuff as I was like, uh, we need to get rid of some of the still wife things that are in this space.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: Which he didn't notice because he's just used to it all.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: So that day was extremely challenging.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: So it took a few days to um come together on to the point where I felt like I could like move all of my unload my car, which felt really good to unload my car.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: And um I had some a place, a little kind of nook up in the loft of the shop.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: And um, so during that week of behavioral patterns, I saw uh a huge amount of my behavioral patterns being questioned.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, these these ideas that things have to be a certain way.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: And um really sitting back and thinking, okay, well, don't do it that way this time, Wendy.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, uh I I wake up in the morning and I usually everything's quiet and I download a lot of information.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I was getting up with someone new, and he's like, Hey, let's put some Regan on.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: You want to get in the hot tubs?
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Oh my gosh.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: Not the peace and quiet you've been used to.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: No, but the fur you know, the first couple of mornings I'm like, what's it like if you know we'll put Ray on, we're dancing around and we're flirting and we're having a good time, and you know, I didn't do the hot tub because I knew that that would neutralize my vibration.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: I do things like that at night to go to sleep, but I thought if I get in the hot tub, I'm gonna just who knows where Wendy'll be.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: Turn to turn to butter.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: I know get any work done.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: So uh so yeah, it was um being uh you know, really um we're both very strong sense of self and uh this is his space and um and for me to to come in and and him trying to make room and also mm things weren't really organized since the two and a half years that his wife left, and so there was a lot of even making space in the kitchen and all of those things.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um so we worked through it, we're very communicative, and uh it got to the point where we were at that third quarter moon, and um we pretty much agreed that we were opposite practically.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like we had this great relationship on a more spiritual creative depth, but on the practical, we could not agree on anything.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: And and it came down to there's a couch that had a cover on it, and the I really didn't like the cover.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was old, and I found out that it was made by his grandmother or his mom or something.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: And it just held some vibration that just d wasn't good to me.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so I you know, I took it off and folded it up, and then I bought another cover, and he really didn't like that cover, and so we were going back and forth about just the cover on the couch.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: How could we come you know come together on the cover on the couch?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_02: And one day we s we were like, We're gonna do this, we're gonna figure this out.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: So we got online and we started looking at blankets and all kinds of different things.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: We still could not agree on a cover on the couch.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: It was like I point to some, he goes, I can't live with that.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: And he'd point to some and I go, I can't live with that.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know Such small things that can make such a big difference.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: It was very symbolic.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like it was the place I was gonna land and rest and and so anyway.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so we we we came to the agreement that it just were not compatible on a practical level, but on a spiritual and creative level, oh my gosh, we're off the charts.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: We could talk forever and everything like that.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so then a couple more things happened, and um it it got to the point where I was like, you know what?
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: I I think I better go back to the hotel.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Were you would you would you say you were getting angry with each other or you just No.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you might describe what happened that the how you came to that.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so uh he has a septic system, which you know I had septic systems in both of my houses, the the house for 27 years and also the cabin.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: And you can only use so much water for it it a septic system has a max on the amount of water it can process.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so Wendy uses a lot of water to how would you say um self-care.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's self-care and it's also vibrational, like to neutralize my vibration in the at night before I go to bed and everything.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: And so, um so yeah, I I was there for the six days and I came back and then you know he he could tell that it was way more water than it needed to be.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: And so one morning he was like, you know, we you can't you can't take those showers like you're taking, you can't do this, and and and I was like, you know what?
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: I've lived this before.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: I know what the septic system is, I know what the water situation is.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I I even in a we lived in a trailer for three months where you have to constantly monitoring the gray water and make sure you empty it out.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: You so it was that morning that I was like, mm this is is too much.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, because I mean the work I do, I I have to be able to use water in the with this vibration to neutralize it.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um at different times.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's just how it works.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I packed up my stuff and I said, I'm gonna go to the hotel so we don't have an issue about the septic system anymore.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: And um so yeah, um it and so it wasn't this it wasn't excuse me, it wasn't that you were fighting, you just recognized that this had significance and that you did not you recognized you had been down that path before and that you didn't want to go down that path again.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: I knew that the requirements of the septic system was pushing my self-care to a point that wouldn't be good for me.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: And so I just said I I'm gonna go check into the hotel and because I can't put any more water down the septic system, I can't just stop.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: So so I checked into the hotel and it gave us objectivity, and also when I got to the hotel, I realized Wendy is very homesick.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Wendy is is really, really homesick.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: I really don't have a place to land in Oregon anymore.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: Now I did uh submit him application for the apartment that's right next door to him that's open, and I called yesterday, and that's not gonna be I'm not gonna know the re for two weeks if I get the apartment or not.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: So I made the decision in the last couple days that I'm I'm gonna drive back to St.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: Louis.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: And you've been gone what, two and a half months?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: Eighty-seven days.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: But who's counting?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Almost three months, yeah.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because uh I mean I journal every day and I put day whatever it is.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so yeah, it may it actually might be day eighty-eight today.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, and and I had expressed that to him that I needed a place to land that's my space so that I don't I feel at home and the way the whole shop is set up and everything, it's it's it's just not there.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's there isn't a space that can be allocated in that way.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: And so once I made a decision that I'm gonna drive back home, I felt a lot better.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: But I've also had back pain with this throughout the the couple weeks of moving in and everything, and and that is also significant to you know, change and um I do think I'm meant to live in Oregon in some way.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's what I keep getting.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: I keep getting that you're gonna end up there for a period of time.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but in this particular point, um our relationship is still very fun.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: We really we love each other and we have something incredibly magical on a deep level, just not practical.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: But we've come to the point where we we really realize that.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you need you need your own space.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: And not only I mean women I think need their own space first of all, but second, you yeah, I mean, you're an oracle, you're archangel.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: You you have to have that space, you have to have that time where you can just process and be yourself.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Stare at a wall.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Stare at a wall.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I do best.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: So what's what's really been great is that um when I was going on those matchmaking dates and talking to the matchmaking people, they said, you know, don't slam someone with who you are right away, Wendy.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: Let it just organically unfold.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, How is that ever gonna happen?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: But it it actually has happened beautifully with the woodcarver where we met organically.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: There was no predetermination of, you know, and then and just how it led to one thing to the next thing, and then um we play chess a lot.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: We love to play chess, and and so he would hold the pawns in his hand to determine what color you are, and and if you if you're white, you get to go first, and so I knew which hand he had the white pawn in, so I just kept picking the w hand and it happened over.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, That's impossible! How are you doing that every time?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then we went to um he wanted to to take me to a spiritual fair because he thought I would really like that, and so then he got to witness me um interface with all the the spiritual people and how they reacted or how they um knew who I was as an oracle immediately by my vibration and everything, and that kind of blew his mind too.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and so there's just been many little things that have happened that um uh through experience he's witnessing the more supernatural part of my consciousness that that goes beyond what you think can actually happen.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: More highly vibrational aspect of you.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the significant things that was happening is when we would get into kind of a confrontation, uh I would only go so far and I'd say, I have to leave now.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: I have to go.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, You're running away.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I'm not really running away, I just have to go.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, one of the reasons is is because I have this consciousness that if I focus uh extreme uh uh emotion to his consciousness, it it will hurt him.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it's it's it's something I have.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: Physically would hurt him.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: Physically hurt him.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: Which the first couple days that I was there, uh he was extremely tired and he was like, I've never felt this way, I've never felt wiped out like this.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so I ended up getting this crystal and he's he held the crystal and then he could feel that it was making him feel better.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I he kept getting witnessing these different things and um so yeah, I it I at the just a few days ago I really came out and shared you know, the the real capacity of my consciousness as Archangel and 11th dimension and um and he he said I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't experienced it over the last four weeks of this moon cycle, basically.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it just kind of just organically unfolded in that way.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and isn't it interesting that uh what you just described has to do with the um new perspective about how relationships have to organically evolve.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean good point, buddy.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, that's this sort of that's this moon cycle.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: This whole relationship that you've had with him, this has each quadrant has been a perfect example of the moon cycle.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, he followed it very, very perfectly.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: And even when we were going through the new behavioral patterns, and that was butting heads, but it's i we would butt heads, but then we would integrate in a way.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um I mean, so we would both soften, and I think Betty was watching me soften oh tremendously in different ways.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: So the And the softening surrender.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and that was part of it of the um new behavioral patterns too, is surrendering.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: But when we when we went across that alchemy and third quarter point, and then there was the new perspective, and that was the new perspective we both had, like, wow, we can't even agree on a blanket.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: We we can't even find but we're both very visual artists.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: So that makes a huge difference too, because it is very important to us what we see and what surrounds us.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Well, sure.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and I think everything everything is very gray, brown, black, you know, and and what she's very comfortable with.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: This one day I said, I'm light, I'm color, I'm pattern, I'm I I'm all those things.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, What about dark blue?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: That just doesn't resonate with me.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: But but so in some way, though, it really complements each other.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like he's so grounding in that way in the world.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: Other way.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: And we talked to we talked uh you and I earlier before we started about living your own consciousness.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: This is totally that, yes.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: When I got to the hotel um this last time and made the decision to go home, my back hurt.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then when I went back to the shop and was we were just hanging out in the afternoon, my back didn't hurt.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Then when I got back to the hotel, it hurt again.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, now this, you know, my body communicates to me.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: So it took a while for me to understand that it didn't hurt because I was slipping comfortably into his consciousness.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: And the gallery and the people coming in and I wanted to wait on them.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's not my consciousness.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's a very comfortable consciousness for me to do.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: So when I got back to the hotel and it hurt again, I'm like, okay, you know, where's Wendy's sense of self?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that that has gotten lost somehow in this.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: There's no space for me there.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: There's no space for my sense of self.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, and that's what I really was like reflecting on last night was, you know, my heart is torn between two things of you know wanting to go home, knowing that that's where I live my consciousness, that's that's the nurturing place I have.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: But then also this magical, incredible um gift we've been giving with this this relationship um of just connecting on such a deeper spiritual creative and and talking forever, which really relieves Betty a lot.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: I would agree with that, yes.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: But yes.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: And at the same time, I've been having my own uh adventures.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it works out, of course, it's all yeah orchestrated, it's beautiful, yeah.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: So um so yeah, I booked the reservations for the first couple of nights.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: um, to drive home and I got that figured out.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: It'll take me five days to get back home.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: I can only drive about six hours a day.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then um yeah, I in no way is our relationship over or this is an end or anything like that.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's just recognizing what is best for both of us.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, at this point Yeah, I would love to see this relationship continue because again we you're so happy yeah with it.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: And oh my gosh, I'm a completely different person with it.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I'm it's it's been so fulfilling in everything.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: And um yeah so that's what happened in the moon cycle.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I I also Betty and I are studying the story structure and how and this is the greatest example and I higher consciousness just showed me this this was this surrender moon cycle was a story that was unfolding okay and I can use this to learn um how how we can start ex um understanding moon cycles as more of a story when they go through the the in the inciting event and the you know first plot point the midpoint the third plot point the climax and even when we were on that crescent moon um this last crescent moon a few days ago I was like this is the climax of this moon cycle it's also the climax of the series of the moon cycle so through all these experiences Betty and I are having we're we're being shown how to understand this reality and our life experiences more as stories and characters.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: And weren't we really talking about how this moon cycle surrender moon cycle was all about roles we were playing.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: And especially you Betty being in Denver with your grandkids and the role of grandparents and how you're creating parameters with that.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well and I can see how so many I really can see how so many grandparents fall into that role of grandparents.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot see for myself how I could watch these kids although I love them dearly and they're just a hoot and I learned so much from them.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: But to take care of them while the parents are working five days a week eight to ten hours a day no I can't do that.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: And not that they've asked me to I'm sure if I volunteered they say well sure you know we'll save a lot of money and the grandparents will get to know the grandkids and vice versa.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: And yet that would make me so miserable.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: I I just wouldn't be able to do that.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: So what we're doing is we're setting up and I'm saying we because Jerry's doing the same thing we're setting up times when we can uh be together and do what we want to do and if we're asked to come over like what happened last night for dinner we said no we're having a date day we're we're doing gonna do our own thing.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: So last year they really needed us there were so many uh physical problems going on with the little ones they don't need us anymore so they're we're living our consciousness and they're living their consciousness and it's just it is so much more healthy and it's more satisfying for me because when I'm with those kids I'm with those kids and you're fully present.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: Fully present yes and they see that so yeah so isn't there many roles you can play as like babysitter or oh my caretaker.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean there's there's so many different roles being a grandma right and it's like you you really got to go through this period of saying no this is how I want to be in relationship.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: Right and I you the parents and the kids.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: Right and I we're trying to be a lot more gentle than my mother was my mother said I raised my kids you raised yours just like that and we're like whoa okay that was a little more harsh.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes she was right though I mean yeah as I'm witnessing this now.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Even being in the the woodcarver shop and the um gallery and all all these things and and he would be busy doing something on a phone call and I would go out and greet people and just say hey have you been here before you know don't you know make sure you go upstairs and those kinds of things but of course Wendy would end up talking to the people a long time because I like to talk to people.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: I like to hear their stories you know and everything.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: But they would get down to the point they're like Did do you work here?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like you could tell they were a little confused of and I would be like well I'm the girlfriend or then I would be sometimes I would say well I'm the new girlfriend.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: But I could tell that the role was a significant part and and this one woman that one of the first days I was there after I actually unloaded my car and she came around the corner and I don't know if she heard us talking or not she came around the corner she looked right at me and she goes you're the muse aren't you and I was like whoa wow maybe I am and so yeah we looked at each other we were like oh what does that mean though that's a whole new role and then I told him I said I think you're the muse for me.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah absolutely yes so we were playing with those um and it was it's very Betty and I were talking about this before you know Wendy's a very good troubleshooter and problem solver.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely professionally I can attest to that she's gotten me out of so many technological issues with this yes yeah and so it was really I was very conscious of not showing up as that person all the time you know what I mean just letting things slide letting things slide um because I don't want to be dependent upon in that way in the relationship and then also you know the role of housekeeper and the role of wife and the you know one of the things I said hey are you gonna call that uh cleaning lady and have her come twice a week or twice a month well oh really oh okay well and then you know so there was and he he could sense how I can just organize stuff very easily and yeah and so I had to be kind of careful with that I was like if you start to organize something I will support you in whatever you're doing.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Just because you can doesn't mean you should I know and you know what what is the best use of Wendy's time it's not sweeping the floor basic no so those but can you see how many things were presented to me in this beautiful four weeks of this moon it started before that but this these four weeks with change and growth basically yeah and and even I think all everyone listening you know look back and and s with this moon cycle and and what roles were involved in the change and growth of this last moon cycle.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Wendy got the boot camp that she's sharing today so that gives us an opportunity to look and see okay how what does what she experienced relate to us?
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: How can we see that in our own lives?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: How does her reflection show up for us?
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you surrender.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: Because you can also go back to each moon week and say how did I surrender in the inspired next steps?
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: How did I surrender in building that new narrative how did I surrender in those changing those behavioral patterns and then how did I surrender into allowing myself to see the new perspective something that we might not want to look at.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: Most likely we don't want to look at it would would be my take on that yeah yeah yeah because this last moon cycle was accept and enjoy what is okay and we said that's that's the change part and the growth part was allow what may be right yeah so those both those are surrendering to aspects of surrender too yeah so this surrender moon cycle then leads into the grace moon cycle which is what we're starting today.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yes innocent loving and neutral so many people that I'm surrounded by are have their superpowers grace.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: And when I tell them that they say what does that mean you know what is grace well it's the touch of grace and that is the the living force within us.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's it's what is is what we think of as alive.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: And um it's a very it's the deeper spiritual aspect of us and when someone has a superpower of grace which is the woodcarver he actually has a dual super he's one of them is grace which is why it's so attractive to me.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: And but when you're with him you can feel that touch of grace.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: You can feel that innocence and the loving and the neutrality okay that's the deeper spiritual aspect of him and the people who come in the shop and they or the gallery and they see these carvings there's that's what they're feeling in the carvings and that's what when I first saw them I'm like this is sacred geometry.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is that grace this is the very core essence of our being experiencing ourselves.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: And so it j I mean people you cannot believe what they say about these these carvings and and they're huge.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean some of them are like eight feet tall and huge pieces of driftwood with and anyway but it's that but when you are with someone who's the touch of grace whose grace you get that deeper spiritual experience with them.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_02: But it doesn't have to be in words it's just being present with them.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so it y some people are very attracted to it.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Some people are like what the heck is that?
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: I can't handle that.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta yeah so that's that's the real like people people are the touch of grace because they have the superpower of grace.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Their consciousness works that way.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: Now I have had the touch of grace several times specifically where I'm in a very distraught place, sometimes not even in a distraught place.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's just in a moment of um maybe confusion or inquiry and I had the touch of grace on my right shoulder where I felt a touch and it sent this whole vibration through my body that lasted for weeks.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like what the heck happened then?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: And but it was I realized then it was the touch of grace and it changed the configuration or the cellular structure of my consciousness to a a different um awareness is what I'd say.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: And so you can have that that touch of grace from the divine it's a divine touch.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's and I've had it several other times in different situations too.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm So then with the inspired next steps which are um self right the um that has to do more with uh the awareness of self and the authenticity of yourself.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: Forthright and 15th it's this this moon cycle is the last moon cycle of this series of moon cycles.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: So everything that we've done in the eleven moon cycles working up to this 12th one all right um is is bringing within us a more divine experience of ourself and the last surrender moon cycle had to do with relationship reflections and this is self-compassion this is our relationship with ourself and source because our relationship with ourself is the relationship with source.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: So that um experiencing a stronger sense of self is what the inspired next steps are going to be all about.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: Where having that um being authentic and forthright not apologizing for who you are.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: So in the surrender moon cycle that was what was unfolding with the woodcarver organically is this is who Wendy is authentically and how I show up in the world.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: And so that prepares us that surrender moon cycle prepares us for this grace moon cycle where these inspired next steps we're gonna get is bringing that change like enhancing that even more so.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Right and then into the behavioral patterns we have more narrative.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: Why do I always do that?
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: I know what it is I know thank you for that um but it has to do with awareness and self-awareness right yeah with the snake so in healing healing and acceptance is yeah yeah so when you are inspired to change and be more authentic and forthright okay there's a certain amount of vulnerability that needs to go with that in your relationships and so yes you're gonna have these inspired next steps to be more authentic and forthright but when you come to your relationships in that new way of being you also have to be more vulnerable and accepting and it's the awareness of um you know hearts can be easily wounded all right and so there's this this really good awareness of when that might happen when you're being more authentic and forthright and then accepting the role you played if that does happen and then also how apologies and amends can be very instrumental.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: So in that narrative week you you build the new narrative and then you test it.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay there's there's two parts the before the gibbous and after the gibbous and and it's after the gibbous when you're testing that new narrative of being more authentic and forthright that that vulnerability needs to be there to be aware if you overstepped it in any of your relationships.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: And that's how it balances.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes and if you did if you realize that you did then it's so important to make an apology for that.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah because that goes a long way yes so um that's a r that's really interesting how those two fit together so beautifully like that.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean I'm just amazed that this sometimes so so the more the the theme is of this moon cycle is very much the innocent loving and neutral.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: And it's also that comes forth in a divine way when you're in the present moment because the present moment has a lot to do with this moon cycle.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I was talking to my friend Paige she was going through the surrender moon cycle and she was reading Eckhart's Eckhart's uh book uh the power of now and that but I think she I think she read it several times or something but she said it was so instrumental and he it was and he talks about surrender in that book but he also really talks about the the power of now the present moment and how it works and everything.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: So if you want to dive deeper into like surrender and the in the present moment which is very helpful with your relationship with yourself which is source which is grace see how all those things are tied together and think about this okay we just went through eleven moon cycles this is the culmination okay what are we talking about we're talking about everything that happened in those eleven moon cycles is coming to the culmination of how we experience ourselves as a more divine presence as source.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's the the through theme of consciousness in general no matter what dimensional level you're discussing your your relativity your your awareness is at it always comes down to that everything is opening your awareness expanding your awareness of how you are divine and your divine expression of source you are source.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: Right and that's the through through theme for the story yes the over umbrella story of this whole reality really uh and and within this reality we got twelve we have a cyclical pattern of twelve moon cycles that repeat themselves and every time you go through the series of moon cycles you are experiencing yourself more as a more divine expression of source.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I also think it's interesting how we're the culmination of this moon cycle series is all about innocence through nurturing.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yes nurturing is a huge thing self-care.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_02: Right self-acceptance it's yeah those can be challenging for people if they don't feel that they're worthy of having that self-nurturing yeah mm-hmm yeah yeah I I I did a pedicure and a manicure last night Betty I know it was self-care I was like whoa okay we're starting this out right aren't we yes yeah that's great uh so so here's the other okay so we just talked about the series of moon cycles being change and growth and that change and growth on that larger level is is that more divine experience of yourself and then with every moon cycle the same thing is happening on a micro level with a with and there's a theme for every moon cycle so that theme of the moon cycle is unfolded as a story where you're the character that's going through all these um playing a role and and it's unfolding that story of surrender and now it's gonna unfold the story of grace as we go through this moon cycle.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm just getting this um what about during the day?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: It it kind of unfortunately does it during the day too yeah it that's cyclical.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah it's on all those levels that the same patterning is happening.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_02: Right and and our consciousness is dimensional so that's why we have the day is doing that you know unfolding of a divine expression and then the moon cycle and then the whole series of a year and then you also have even larger than that whatever cycle you're in in your life patterning too but they're all have that same through theme and that's the through theme of consciousness in general very cool Wendy it's fun isn't it it is so what kind of experiences has Betty had with that she wants to share lately.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well what I'm getting is um this time and Wendy brought this up a couple days ago for me to look back and this time last year is when in this surrender moon cycle we've talked about this before that this can be a challenging moon cycle for Betty and it was huge last year.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: In fact my husband Jerry brought it up he said you know this time last year we were really looking at uh the separation and that we were experiencing and uh really assimilating it, embracing it, acclimating to it.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so uh that was a very challenging moon cycle last year very challenging entire moon cycle series for me.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so this one um there are and I stepped into that I stepped into that change and and from that growth I think it's yes this moon cycle has been uh challenging in ways nothing like last year and the surrendering I started making a list of all the different things that I surrendered to and there was quite a list.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: I filled a whole page um but it's not that none of them were as dramatic or as painful I'll go that far as painful as ones in past and I think that's because I did step into it and I leaned in to the surrendering.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I can see it more on a a uh less dramatic way, but it's still it's still there.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's coming faster that I that I lean into it, that I see that it involves surrendering.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: So from that that I experienced Well and you know Paige said she goes, I'm getting good at it.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_02: She goes, I'm getting good at surrendering.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like she can recognize it immediately.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_02: If she's if she's not just going with it, okay, you know, if she's on but if she's she's pushing back.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I that's the other thing.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah she's so excited.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: We did a zoom and she's like yeah yeah I am surrendering.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: I think I get this moon cycle like I mean so that's something also to work with is that you know it's a muscle you say you know right absolutely and it's it has to a big part of it has to do with awareness of actually seeing where what you need to lead into and where you're resisting.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of times when you do the surrender you really don't know what's going to happen right there's the uncertainty of it.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's because you have another idea that's why you don't surrender into what's being presented.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's like no no that's not right.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: This is how it's supposed to be right and that's at least that's how my my world is right and there becomes a rigidity to it which the rigidity is no bending like you know the palm trees versus the oak it's like it there's no bending and so when something dramatic comes along it can it can be very challenging yeah.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's a good point when you can you can and that's what was happening with me and with those behavioral patterns especially like the music in the morning what would happen if we turned on reggae in the morning you know does Wendy explode?
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah or right like well it's a good point.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: I had a great time I was like well it's it's a good point into actually listening to what another person has to say like yeah Jerry has suggestions and that was so many times over the years I'd just no without really entertaining it.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: And now it's like I sit back and I think yeah that let's try it.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're always on an adventure every day.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: So one of these days I was laying on the couch in the back apartment um and I was working nobody everybody looks like I'm lounge it looks like I'm lounging but I'm actually really working a lot when I do that.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_02: And um he would come through and go are you okay?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what you're gonna do all day I'm working.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: You can't really tell I'm working.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: And he looked at me he goes well you know there are some people out there if you want to go talk to them and my first thing was are you do you want me to wait on your people?
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like the and I thought no is that a sign that there's somebody else I should there's somebody out there I should talk to and so I got up and I went out there and it was it was a woman that I told everything about co-creating and living the moon cycles to that happened to come in his gallery and and so see how higher consciousness works through other people.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_02: And he and that happened just yesterday when with the apartment he goes I really think you should call him and see what's going on with it.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like no no I'm gonna let the universe take care of it.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: And he comes there and goes I really think you should call him and just see what's going on with it.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like no no we're gonna do the universe here you know and then I went back in and I went maybe I should call him maybe that's a sign that I should call and I called them and it was really important that they they I thought it was going to be in a couple days and they're like oh no you won't know for a couple weeks.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I do think you know surrendering into what you're hearing and if you're adamantly the first thing is no you should really look at it.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: Or you have some um you know belief or something that also does that.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: Some limiting belief or limiting perception perception or something of it too.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah uh to just you know and and of course after that happened he goes see see I'm not stupid these things are important when I say them and I'm like yes they are they are very important.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah yeah but the other thing we were talking about too is and we've had I had a com a lot of conversations with him about this is is to be with someone who is so highly guided as me where um there's just you know it's today I'm supposed to get up and go out and see what happens in the world and he's like where are you going?
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I go I don't know because when are you coming back and I go I don't know and he goes okay is it gonna be two hours four hours tomorrow two days or ten days and I go I'll probably be back by four or five o'clock and that's all he wanted to know.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah right but do you see how how does it work to be this diva guided but then be in that relationship where and it was very frustrating at points where he's like so I can't say anything here and I'm like no you can't I mean no I know and and so it shifts it really makes the the the relationship interesting in that way yeah but the um the surrender part of it it was supposed to happen in this moon cycle because of the surrender aspect and the this moon cycle is about m mutual compassion compared to that leads us into that grace moon cycle.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_02: So now I'm gonna have five days of driving to process everything.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah so what else has happened though Betty I thought there was some other things too no can't think of it.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so things that we talked about on the last podcast Oh I have to tell you this um last night I was laying there kind of confused wondering what all this was all about you know how we do before we do a podcast and I heard listen to your own podcast really I was told to bring up the last podcast and listen to what you told everybody on the podcast and I was like Cool I get to be a listener.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: So what did you hear?
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: I rem I remember no hurries, no worries.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: I remember that was part of it uh it it had a it had a lot to do with the surrender part of it what we were talking about and also the end of the um it just it can't I right now I can't bring specifically what it did but it was it framed for me today's podcast in a way like like where we were talking about that predetermination and recording.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: I remember that yeah yeah and then to really understand the difference it and so it did give me the contrast of okay what is predetermination if anything that's going on right now is me w uh w having this homesickness and wanting to go back home predetermination or is it guidance?
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: Is it is it truth you know well you you have to there's a truth to your emotions and you're Right.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah you're absolutely want wanting to go home is an emotion.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah but so it it it it really kind of brought in the more predetermination thing too how we were exploring it the last podcast.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah I thought that was and I and I when I turned it on I thought I'm gonna tell them on the podcast that I listened to my own podcast and I was giving advice to myself in a way on the Well that is how it works.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean with the streaming right yeah yeah yeah um I also heard what I said about the woodcarver on the last one too which was to see the contrast between where I was then compared to where I am now with everything that happened.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know I'm all about polarity and contrast and um the other thing uh I have started emailing his wife and we're uh talking about the co our our software programs and sent her um the family's identity maps and she's really interested she does cardology uh and so she sent me this whole uh reading which remember it's the Seven of Diamonds I don't remember what that was but I do remember Seven of Diamonds that that you read at the we met a cardologist at an expo yeah yeah in Florida the one the one up in Florida yeah yeah who did who did everybody in the booth which was really interesting.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_02: So reading through what she sent me was really insightful.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like it it kind of you know because it gives it it gives it a little different perspective than how we describe it or work with it.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: So um and then her and I are saying we both have are in relationship with this man who must really like these mystical intuitive people right like but he really does have this huge consciousness.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: The capacity to consciousness is huge.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well I don't know his wife uh doing cardology though I would think she would be dimensional so oh very dimensional yeah yeah so that multi gender he's attracted that that multidimensionality of the two of you yeah yeah yeah well that that speaks a lot for him too yes yeah um yeah so that's been really interesting too uh you know looking at the consciousness and the dynamics um from both perspectives so yeah that's been fun yeah but and I don't quite know how that works into the surrender moon cycle to and the grace moon cycle well well surrendering into I mean how many other relationships that you know of someone uh a wife or ex-wife is willing to open and lean into this new relationship with their spouse or ex.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I think that's surrendering right there it's that's primal.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah um but yeah I I have to say Betty there's so many people so many friends so many relationships I have that are grace that's what you said.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's um so that's another interesting thing to see the similarities of your relationships what what kind of dynamics they are what you even the role I was looking at these people who are grace, their superpower is grace, and then what role do they play with as a friend?
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know, because some of them are emotional support some of them are more mental some of them you know spiritual so even though they're all grace they still show up or are reflection of the different aspect of me.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_02: I know that a lot of the relationships I have are master builders I'm just just surrounded with master builders really so that's interesting yeah yeah mine is individuals right now oh okay so we do have a great question from the wood carver because I showed him his life objective okay read through and he goes well of course this is me yes this is me which is what an individual would say right when they read their life objective but he did read certain points and was like commenting on those and stuff but he he asked me after he read it he goes so how does this bring more awareness to my relationship with the collective wow that's a pretty profound question and what did you respond?
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't yet okay that's what I said that is a really good question I would really have to sit with that one of the things I did mention to him is which isn't quite answering his question you know how I do that too where I said for you to understand the collective it's really important to know individual master builder and speaker and it's even more instrumental when you know who you're talking to it's very helpful.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah it's it is for me yeah yeah but then he's talking more of how does this help me understand what's going in the world on in the world right now because he said this is very self-focused but there's so much happening in the world right now what how do you take how how how do we how do you use this to understand what's going on then or can you?
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well I the what the what's coming to me is um we actually went to see the Odyssey yesterday and Jerry had some pretty profound thoughts on it.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: One of them being that you know they are going in and they're these uh Greeks are going to take back Troy and one of the awarenesses was uh this is might be a um what do you call it so you spoils the ending um i so turn us off if but he the uh Odessius realized that what they were doing is they had already had everything they needed but they went back in and to took over and it how it didn't really change anything.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: It hadn't changed anything they already had everything they needed other than creating a lot of chaos for other people.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_00: So on an individual level I can see that that what is happening for you on an individual level in your day to day how you can see to apply that to the greater consciousness that's kind of what I'm getting I think that's really profound Betty that how you and how you are in the world with yourself is how you're contributing on a larger collective level.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I think if you look at that you can also see how that ref r is reflected out in the consciousness in what's going on.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't follow any of the politics I don't care to um I know there are those who do they should be able to see that in that I would think so if you take what I already talked about with um him being the touch of grace so he gives relief to everyone who comes in and looks at his carvings and reminds them of the divine aspect of their selves.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah that's his his role I was gonna say role and I'm thinking is it a role and in a way it is it is assignment that's his purpose.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah and that's what he feels strongly about is that that's what he's here to do is carve.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm I mean yeah so during this moon cycle he's carved a octopus out of this beautiful piece of driftwood and I've watched it from the very beginning and yesterday he was putting the base on it.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's very symbolic of our relationship too like to go through the process of him you know all the different stabilizing it.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well cutting it away and then defining the form and then at one point one of the tentacles broke off and I was it was on one of the days that we had a little confrontation.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_02: And but he can put it back on really easy.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: And he said that's why God made glue he he made it just for him.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_02: So but to to it that process really symbolizes all the different what happened with us in our relationship and now it's a finished um piece.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_02: He still has to do the he he puts a f like finishing coat on whatever it is or whatever.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah that it's that's so cool.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well that's interesting what happened in four weeks.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah but it's also interesting the eight tentacles in relation to the four weeks with each of the different uh aspects of each of the different quadrants and an octopus I looked it up several times an octopus is adaptability intuitiveness and regeneration because like that tentacle got knocked off well an octopus goes in to um somebody in the shop when they came in explained this to me.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_02: An octopus will go into a kind of like a cave or a spot a protective place to let that regrow.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_02: It goes kind of goes into hibernation for a little bit to let the the new tentacle grow completely.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I knew starfish did that I didn't know the octopus does too.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the regenerative and and the fact that the octopus can go very deep into the ocean.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm and you said that it's very it can communicate very well.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_02: It can communicate with humans yeah yeah and then it's adaptable because it it can totally meld change color and look exactly like the whatever it's sitting on.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_00: They're very intelligent too yeah very intelligent.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_02: So you know all of that is symbolism you know how that works in Wendy World I go out and say where are you on the octopus today?
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: What are you doing?
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh so all right Betty anything else that you can think of or that no I don't think so um just that uh be authentic and forthright and recognize your inspired next steps as that and uh yeah right it's gonna be an interesting moon cycle.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yes it is each each one is yeah all right until next time life is a journey of curiosity wonder and adventure live it and be it