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Ep. 10 Why Everyone is Wrong About the Dana 35 Axle! · Jeep Talk Show

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coool
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Oh, it's cold outside.
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Yes, in Houston, Texas it
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actually was 20 degrees last night.
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And I think up in Conroe it was 19.
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They're looking at some
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sleet and what do they call it?
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A winery mix.
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It's a great day to have a Jeep.
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Or it could be if it actually turns out
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as they're predicting it's going to.
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Tonight we have part one of a two-part
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interview with Rene Arganard.
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And he had to teach me how to pronounce
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both those words, both those names.
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Arganard is his username on xjtalk.com.
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Mine is Mudaroy.
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My first name is Tony.
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I'm one of the very
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few Tonys on the site.
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I think I was the only Tony in high
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school of about 1,000 students.
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And no, it's not Anthony.
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So what we're going to do is we're going
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to go with the standard
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model that we've been using,
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which is basically to have the interview
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for the first half of the show.
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And the second half we'll have Rene on
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the phone answering your questions,
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if you should have any.
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And we can always take comments or talk
2:14
about something totally different.
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You'll be in the chat room.
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Rene and I will be on the air.
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The stream.
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I guess the stream.
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I don't think I'm centered in the camera.
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Well, I turned it up
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right when it was over.
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It's not very professional.
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Wow, could I be any
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whiter in this picture?
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I mean, look at that.
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That's really bright.
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Oh well, too late to mess with it now.
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Xjtalk.com.
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Xjtalk.com.
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It's where you go
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when you're not off-road.
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Since I've actually learned how to
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control myself and watch the time on
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these interviews that are recorded before
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the actual live show,
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so I guess it's semi-live if we're
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playing a recorded interview.
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It's kind of good that way.
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It's less stressful.
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Both the interviewee and I
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can interact with the chatroom.
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And I just think it's
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more fun for everybody.
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Just looking here at the chatroom, we've
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got several Xjtalk
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members, one Xjtalk vendor.
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Welcome, everyone.
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We've got a couple of guests.
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You know who you are.
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One of these days I'm going to read what
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this number of
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viewers means on my screen.
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It says, "Number of viewers, 7-25."
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I like the 25.
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Well, I like the 7, but
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the 25 is a bigger number.
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So I don't know exactly if that means
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that there's actually 25 people that have
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been here and left or,
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you know, I don't know.
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It's just confusing.
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So as I was mentioning,
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it's very cold here in Houston.
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I think it--let's see.
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It is 30 degrees now.
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I think we had a high of around 34 today.
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And if you're not familiar with the
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Houston area, that's kind of unusual
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because the temperature, you
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know, it may get cold at night.
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Very rarely is it in the 20s, but, you
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know, 28, 29, 30, 32,
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somewhere like that.
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But it'll usually warm up during the day
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to at least 40-something and sometimes
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even go as high as in the 60s.
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So it's pretty comfortable in the
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wintertime as compared to some of the
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other places that I see and
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hear about around the country.
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So it's very unusual for us.
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It's even unusual for us to get in kind
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of frozen participation.
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Participation?
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Precipitation.
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And we're looking at that tomorrow.
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I'm personally kind of interested in
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seeing what's going to happen
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because I think it'll be fun.
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I just--I don't want to do anything that
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might bend the jeep,
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but at least I have one.
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So it'll be a little easier getting from
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point A to point B because of that.
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And here we go with part
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one of the Reani interview.
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Hey, guys. Thanks for joining
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us tonight with XJ Talk Show.
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Tonight we have Reani
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Arganard from the XJTalk.com website.
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Reani, how are you doing?
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I'm doing great.
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Thank you.
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A little cold, which wasn't this morning,
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but--or I guess it
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wasn't yesterday morning.
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Yeah, that was a heck of a blast that we
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had come through here.
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Of course, the show is on Wednesday.
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And Tuesday morning here in the Houston
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area, we had a very substantial cold
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front come through quite a
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line of showers and wind.
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Gosh, I guess we were seeing 40, 50 mile
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an hour winds here in gusts.
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Yeah, that's what they were saying on the
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news today is it was actually--it was
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gust up to 40 miles an hour here.
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And I actually had took the girls down to
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the bus stop because it was still raining
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about 6.40 or so when
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they went to catch the bus.
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So it was loud enough to
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wake me up this morning.
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I guess you had been up for a while
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because I think you're usually on the
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site by 5 or so a.m.
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Yeah, I was--I had actually got up about
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4 o'clock this morning
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is when it woke me up.
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But yeah, I kind of stayed up until 6.
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It was still raining when I left to go to
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work this morning at about 7.15.
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So yeah, it was a heck of a blast.
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And for all of--everybody who doesn't
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know, we're all in the Houston area, or
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me and Tony are, and we don't
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experience massive cold here.
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We generally never see.
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But we're going to see over the next
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three or four days we don't
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get here in this part of Texas.
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I mean, we're--they're
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talking temps down in the 20s.
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Low 20s I think in Conroe is going to
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be--we may even see some teams.
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That's not something we
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get in southeast Texas.
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No, that has to be a pretty strong front
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to be able to get us down
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that cold for any time frame.
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So, you know, we'll have
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30s, upper 20s on occasion.
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But generally speaking, it--about when
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the sun comes out and daytime heating,
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you know, it warms up well
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above 30, maybe into the 40s.
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So, for example, today, the--I don't
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think we got above 35 or 38 if I was--if
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I remember the--looking at the little
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temple thing on my computer.
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It monitors the temp at my house.
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Right now it says 28.
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But anyway, that kind of dovetails into
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the next thing I was going to do is talk
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about what you do for a living.
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You get to work outside
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in this cold, don't you?
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Yes, I do.
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But I only actually get to--I'm actually
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in a big metal building, you know, like a
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lot of the other guys.
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I'm actually a mechanic by trade.
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I graduated from UTI back in 89.
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I've went on to own my
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own auto repair shop.
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I've worked for multiple dealerships,
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multiple independent people.
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I've kind of pretty much done it all.
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I'm actually to the point where in my
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life and in my career where I decided
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that I just really didn't want to work on
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cars and trucks any longer.
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So I went--I started working on electric
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vehicles, which is a
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little bit of a different job.
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But it's still something
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that's really interesting.
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And the greatest part of it is not
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everybody calls you every minute of the
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day going, "I need to
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drive that home tonight."
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Nobody needs to drive
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their electric vehicle home.
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And when you say electric
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vehicle, a golf cart comes to mind.
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Is it golf carts or just golf carts?
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Carts or more than that?
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We actually work--we actually sell
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everything from a golf cart up to a
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14-pass bus that actually gets used to
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transport people around
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parking lots and stuff.
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So we actually sell it all.
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We sell everything from, like I said,
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golf carts to street-legal vehicles to
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lifted golf carts, off-road-type buggies
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to big buses and utility carts.
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And we even have a
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catering electric vehicle.
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So pretty much anything and everything
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that's electric, I work on.
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Have you looked at ever--or have you
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considered taking a Jeep Cherokee and
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using the knowledge and perhaps the
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electric motors that you have available
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to convert one into an electric Jeep?
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Yes and no. Yes, because
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it would be really neat.
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No, because the weight of the batteries
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that it takes to run
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these things is ridiculous.
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Even if you were to do that, you'd never
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be able to wheel it.
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I mean, you'd add a couple thousand
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pounds just in batteries.
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Yeah, I actually wrote on my Tony McElroy
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blog about we need a better power supply
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because if we had a smaller, more
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powerful battery or power source, it
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would really enable us to do a lot of
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things that we can't do now currently.
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And I'm sure we'll get there.
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I just don't know.
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When I was a kid, I
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thought we would be there by now.
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I mean, it is the 21st century and gosh,
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we're 11 years into it.
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You know, we're actually getting close,
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Tony, but we're not quite there yet.
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The new Nissan Leaf is actually using a
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lithium polymer battery of
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some shape, form, or fashion.
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They're not being real generous with the
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technology because
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they don't want it copied.
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I mean, blame them.
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But we're getting there.
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It's just wind.
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Right.
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Well, it's a price performance thing.
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I mean, I'm sure that the military or
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some scientist someplace has a nuclear
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reactor that's small and they could slap
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Mr. Fusion on the side of it and it would
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operate much like the mythical fusion
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device that powered the
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DeLorean on Back to the Future.
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But as far as it being safe and
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affordable, it might be, besides that,
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it'd be a great terrorist tool.
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Oh, yeah.
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So I guess that would, in other words,
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the technology does exist for limitless
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power, but the problem is
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the danger and the cost.
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So we need something that, like what
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you're saying, I mean, the lithium
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batteries certainly were
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a big jump in technology.
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I mean, you can look at your smartphone
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that you're talking on.
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Of course, that has a
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lithium ion battery.
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And the size and power of
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the thing are just incredible.
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I mean, a communication device that is
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that small, and of course,
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they can make them even smaller.
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But at some point, you have to, I think,
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draw the line as far as how small it's
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going to be or you wind up losing it.
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It's funny that you say that because my
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son got an iPod, for Christmas, one of
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the iPod touches, one of the newest ones
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with the, I don't know, 15 billion
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gigabytes of memory or whatever.
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The heck it is now.
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And that thing is not a whole lot bigger
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than a credit card and probably a stick
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is four, maybe five credit cards.
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It's tiny.
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See, I'm like you.
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I would end up losing it
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or breaking it very quickly.
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Yeah, breaking it.
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I could see that happening.
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And he probably will, too.
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Probably stick it in his pocket or leave
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it in there and it'll
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get washed or something.
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And those things are so expensive.
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Yeah, apparently, you know my son.
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Well, you know how kids are.
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So, are you from this area or what part
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of the country are you from?
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I was originally born up in
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Massachusetts, but I've
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lived here since 1974.
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So I am basically born, raised, you know,
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not born, but raised
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right here in Colorado, Texas.
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I've lived here most of my life,
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graduated high school right here.
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You know, everybody I know is here.
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Well, certainly, if you've been here
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longer than 20 years,
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you're considered a native Texan.
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I'm sorry, there's two things.
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You have to be here 20
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years and not live in Dallas.
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Yeah, I pretty much do both of them.
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I've been out of high
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school, 25 now, I guess, 84.
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Yeah, you recently celebrated the
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birthday, didn't you?
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Yes, I did.
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Just turned 45.
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Nothing wrong with that.
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No, it's definitely,
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definitely feeling it a little bit.
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Now, I know we've talked about this
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before, but I do not remember.
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I guess it's because of there's so many
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people on the site now, and I'm reading
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about so many different
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things that people have done.
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The Jeep Cherokee that you currently
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have, it's a 92, correct?
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Five.
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Ninety-five?
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Okay.
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For some reason, I thought it was a 92.
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I thought it gave you some information
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today that was for a 92, that water pump
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that you were talking about.
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But anyway, is this
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your first Jeep Cherokee?
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First Jeep of any
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kind, believe it or not.
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I've had four-wheel drive since I was 18
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years old of one
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shape, one way or another.
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I've had Chevy's, Ford, Dodge's, a couple
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different Japanese brands, but this is my
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actual very first Jeep.
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Well, you seem to like it a lot.
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I mean, you don't seem to
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be fearful of breaking it.
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No, fearful of breaking into
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something, I'm definitely not.
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Was that something that you do similar
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driving style on your other vehicles?
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Oh, no, I was never as
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hard as I am on this one.
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I had a, well, I say that, I had a 1974
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F100 Ford pickup, and it
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was an ex-Baja race truck.
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Full-cage, I mean, just crazy amount of
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suspension travel, but it was raced back
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in like, it was a 74 model, I think.
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From the paperwork I
15:44
had, it was racing like 76.
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So it was bought and
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built to race immediately.
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It's been, it was around ever since, and
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I bought it from a guy who was probably
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the 56 owner of it, and it never had
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anything changed on it.
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It was still in exactly the
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way they raced it, for him.
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I was pretty hard on that one.
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I launched it off a couple hills pretty
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good, but it was set up to do it, so I
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didn't mind doing it.
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Was that a two-wheel drive?
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Because I know a lot of times those,
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especially those off-road racers, are set
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up for, you know, no axle or at least
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independent suspension if
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it's a four-wheel drive.
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Oh, no, it was a four-wheel drive.
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Now, mind you, it was
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a 74 and raced in 76.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, they were just basically putting
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good lift kits on them, you know,
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shocking them a bunch
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and racing them back then.
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Yeah, that's right.
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I did hear you say that,
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and I didn't think about that.
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That probably is a more recent thing.
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I really don't follow the
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off-road racing that much.
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I just know that I was a little surprised
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to see, whenever they're doing the Baja
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stuff, that those are really two-wheel
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drives, and I think they do it simply so
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they can get over all
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the lumps and bumps,
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whereas a straight axle would give them a
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hard time doing, being able to go fast.
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Yeah, I think back then, I actually think
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that the two-wheel drives were actually
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faster than the four-wheel drives.
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You know, I'm sure Steve would probably
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know a little bit more about that than I
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would, him being in California and all,
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but if I remember right, way back then,
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they were actually the two-wheel drives
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were the faster vehicles.
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Right.
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You know, more wheel travel, more
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everything, lighter weight,
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you know, same horsepower.
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Yeah, I think it's that infinite front
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suspension, so it allows, you know, one
17:28
wheel to be on the ground and not be
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forced down by a bump.
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They both can float at
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whatever rate or speed they need to.
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That's, I mean, you can do it with CV,
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joints, and so on and so forth, but it's
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just not very strong.
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It's not as strong as
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a straight axle setup.
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At least that's what I've been told.
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So anyway, you've had several four-wheel
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drives, but the Jeep Cherokee is about
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the only one that you
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really beat the hell out of,
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so you must have, or at least
18:00
established, a good confidence level in
18:02
it to be able to run it hard.
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I most certainly did.
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I actually, when I bought it, I mean, you
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saw it when it was all original, I bought
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it bone stock, probably had never been in
18:15
four-wheel drive its entire life.
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I gave more than what I should have gave
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for it, looking back now,
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but at that time I didn't know.
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And everything that's been
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done to it, I've done myself.
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You know, it's three and a half inch
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lift, 33 inch TSLs on it.
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You know, it's got a whole lot more to go
18:37
in it than what I'm going to do to it,
18:38
but I've just got to get to the point
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where it's not my daily driver.
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And as a matter of fact,
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it is still my daily driver.
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Well, it's nice to be able to, in the
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Houston area, when we have bad weather
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and we do have it, it's nice to be in a
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vehicle you know that can get you from
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point A to point B, or at least have a
18:55
real good chance at it.
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Yeah, it is.
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You know, and our idea of bad weather is
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a lot different than what everybody is
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experiencing right now with the winter.
19:03
We don't get that.
19:04
We get, you know, 20 inches
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of rain over a 24-hour period.
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Right.
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So we just get lots of
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high water to drive through.
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Yep.
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Yeah, having a little
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height makes a big difference.
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And the two feet between the ground and
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the bottom of my Jeep means a lot to me.
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Sure makes you a lot more confident in
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driving through that
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deep puddle, doesn't it?
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Yep.
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I mean, you know, standard
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pickup trucks sit as high.
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The passengers or drivers
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sit just as high as I do.
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But the bottom of that
19:32
door isn't as high as mine.
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So if they start going through it,
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they're going to get some water.
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I don't know how bad it would be, but at
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least I'm going to be above it.
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Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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And when I'm not above, I don't care if
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it gets in my floorboards anymore.
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Have you put drain plugs
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in your floorboard now?
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Oh, yeah.
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All my drain plugs have been removed.
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I ride around with
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them out all the time now.
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I don't even put them back in anymore.
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Yeah, you do need to get that thing set
20:03
up so that you can just
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make it an off-road trail rig.
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Yeah, when that happens,
20:09
I'm cutting the top off.
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I'll end up being one of the
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Cherokees that are topless.
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Well, I think that's about the only thing
20:16
about the Cherokee that would be nice,
20:20
would be able to have the ability that
20:22
the Wrinklers and the
20:23
CJs do to remove that top.
20:25
Because that is pretty cool.
20:27
I mean, it'd probably
20:28
get old pretty fast.
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I had a Z28 with T-tops, and I thought
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that was a real fun thing.
20:35
But keeping up with those tops and taking
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them on and putting them on and taking
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them off, and then worrying
20:45
about people stealing them.
20:47
Because that was a big thing.
20:48
They were pretty expensive items, and
20:50
they were fairly easy to steal.
20:52
And a lot of people would come out, and
20:54
their T-tops would be gone.
20:56
Yeah, that would make
20:57
you pretty much not happy.
20:58
No.
20:58
I mean, you know, that's a selectable
21:03
open-air thing, and without the T-tops,
21:05
there's no longer a selection.
21:07
Gosh, it seems like they
21:08
were $500, $700 to replace.
21:10
So it wasn't something
21:13
fun to be concerned about.
21:16
No, I'll give you that.
21:17
I actually had a 68 Mustang
21:19
that was kind of the same boat.
21:21
I mean, it wasn't a T-top car, but you're
21:23
still, I mean, locking up the 68 Mustangs
21:25
is really the most
21:26
non-intelligent thing you could ever do.
21:27
It takes a long time to
21:29
get in one of them cars.
21:31
Yeah, I guess a lot of anything with
21:32
class on it doesn't
21:33
really take much to get into.
21:36
And I would guess the Wranglers are in
21:40
that same position with the soft tops.
21:44
I guess you just don't put stuff in there
21:46
that you want people to walk off with.
21:49
That's it.
21:50
I mean, it's kind of
21:51
like anything, though.
21:52
No matter how secure your vehicle is, how
21:54
long it will take to get
21:55
in there with a hammer.
21:56
Yep, or even take it.
21:58
And of course, that's a worry that I have
22:00
because I've had this Jeep Cherokee of
22:03
mine since, you know, it
22:05
was brand new, showroom floor.
22:08
And I've done a lot of mods to it.
22:09
And actually, every time I hear about
22:11
somebody having their Jeep totaled, I
22:15
think about, you know, where am I going
22:17
to be if that happens?
22:18
I mean, chances are good.
22:19
I'll be able to pull parts off of it.
22:21
But it's not, you know, it'll be gone.
22:24
And actually, I was looking at that that
22:28
flood damaged XJ that's at Matt's shop.
22:32
And I kept saying stuff to him like, man,
22:34
but the body's clean and and
22:37
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
22:38
I just hate to see this thing trashed.
22:40
And it's like, you
22:42
know, yeah, but saltwater.
22:44
Yeah, but it's out of here.
22:46
Yeah, but, you know, it's true.
22:50
And what's really bad about that car or
22:52
that that Jeep was it was under saltwater
22:54
and the floorboards are perfect.
22:55
There's not a rust hole
22:57
in that Jeep anywhere.
22:59
And it's just really sad
23:01
because that is a very clean Jeep.
23:04
And, gosh, I mean, I
23:06
guess it wasn't running.
23:07
And that's why somebody left it there.
23:09
They didn't care.
23:09
But, boy, that would have been nice if
23:11
somebody would have just
23:12
called and said, hey, I got a Jeep.
23:14
It's going to it's going to get swamped
23:16
with this hurricane coming in.
23:18
You want it?
23:19
Yeah, believe it or not.
23:21
I know the story behind that.
23:22
Oh, really?
23:23
That Jeep was actually bought the guy
23:25
that we got it from had actually bought
23:28
it from a friend of his.
23:29
And it was an off-road
23:30
buggy on me that they didn't.
23:31
He never got it titled.
23:33
You know, he had the title, but he never
23:34
got it inspected or registered.
23:35
And when the hurricane was
23:37
coming in, they loaded up.
23:39
You know, he has a pickup
23:40
truck and his wife had a car.
23:41
They loaded everything in their house on
23:43
a trailer that he had behind the truck.
23:44
There was just nowhere to put the Jeep.
23:46
He had no choice but to leave it.
23:47
And it was running.
23:49
Oh, yeah, it was
23:49
running driving at that point.
23:51
But there was no way
23:51
for him to get it out.
23:52
He had to drive his
23:53
truck with the trailer.
23:54
She drove her car out.
23:56
There was just no way.
23:57
And he said by the time they left, there
23:58
was not enough time to get back because
24:00
he actually said, he goes, I turn you
24:01
know, when I got the trailer unloaded, I
24:03
turned around and started coming back.
24:05
And he couldn't get back to his house.
24:07
Well, I'm glad I asked about that because
24:10
that makes me feel a
24:11
little better about it.
24:12
It just seems strange
24:13
that it was such a nice Jeep.
24:15
I figured it must not have been running
24:16
and therefore it was just too difficult
24:18
to get out of there.
24:21
That's just a shame.
24:22
Yeah, it really is because like you said,
24:24
it's a really, really nice Jeep.
24:26
I mean, I hate to see it cut up and be
24:29
thrown away, but that's pretty much
24:30
what's going to happen.
24:31
Yeah, well, it's understandable.
24:33
It's all relative to how
24:36
much work and money it takes.
24:38
And that was, you know, like Matt said,
24:40
200 bucks, you can get a rollover and be
24:44
a lot further along than
24:45
what you'd be on that one.
24:46
You really can because that Jeep is just
24:48
so deep to death or not deep to death,
24:51
but the Jeep is so salt water to death
24:54
that there's almost nothing salvageable.
24:57
Right.
24:57
That's the way it goes.
24:58
At least there's going to be some stuff
25:01
taken off of it and
25:03
it'll live on, so to speak.
25:06
I've just developed a real
25:08
love for the Jeep Cherokee.
25:11
It just amazes me how well they go
25:17
off-road, how well
25:18
they go off-road stock.
25:20
And with just a little bit of money
25:25
investment in lift tires and wheels, it
25:28
makes an amazing
25:29
difference in the way they appear.
25:31
It was funny you say that, Tony.
25:33
I was talking to a couple of guys on the
25:34
site last night on chat, and we were
25:36
actually talking about that.
25:38
And I said, you know, if you all want to
25:39
really embarrass some people with your
25:41
little Cherokee that's stock, put some
25:42
decent 30-inch tires on it, put a locker
25:45
in the rear, and get your sway bars,
25:47
you're going to make a whole
25:48
lot of big Jeeps real jealous.
25:50
Yeah, I don't doubt that.
25:51
I mean, a locker would
25:51
make a huge difference.
25:53
Well, remember the very first time I met
25:54
you, we were wheeling at Spring Creek.
25:57
I was walked, no sway
25:58
bars, and like 235 tires.
26:01
Yep.
26:02
And look at the places I was taking mine.
26:04
And your Jeep was full of family as well.
26:07
Yes, it was.
26:09
You were going up places.
26:11
I remember there was a, I think it was a
26:14
TJ that was in that one spot.
26:17
It was a really tight trail, and it was a
26:22
pretty good steep
26:23
angle, and it was a turn.
26:25
And he sat up there and tried it and
26:27
tried it and tried it, and I don't know
26:28
what eventually happened to him.
26:29
I think he backed down out of there, and
26:31
then you decided to go
26:33
up there and try that.
26:34
And you made it once or twice.
26:39
I can't remember.
26:39
I know you made it once.
26:41
I'm with you.
26:42
I think I made it twice, but I tried the
26:44
third time, and it
26:45
just couldn't get up it.
26:45
It just got just too rutted out that I
26:47
was actually a high
26:48
center and going up it.
26:49
Right.
26:50
And that was my first introduction to, I
26:55
wanted to say, selectable
26:56
locker, an automatic locker.
26:58
And I was just really surprised how loud
27:00
that clicking noise was.
27:02
That's the reason I
27:03
took it out and welded it.
27:05
Yeah, Matt was backing your Jeep up the
27:09
other day, and gosh, what was it?
27:12
Oh, I thought the parking brake was set,
27:15
because the rear wheel was doing
27:17
something really funny.
27:18
It was jerking, and it was almost like it
27:20
was trying to, like the emergency brake
27:23
was on, and it was
27:23
trying to stop and not go.
27:25
And I said, "A emergency brake?"
27:27
And he looked down, he goes, "No."
27:29
And I thought to
27:30
myself, "Oh, that's right.
27:31
He's got the, Daina 35 welded together,
27:36
and that's what it's doing."
27:37
Because Matt was kind of
27:38
turning as he was backing up.
27:40
So one wheel was trying to
27:42
catch up with the other one.
27:43
Yeah, and that's kind of funny, because
27:45
my Jeep does exactly what everybody says
27:47
you can't do with them.
27:48
You can't weld the Daina 35s, they'll
27:50
break, backing out of your driveway.
27:52
I've got a welded Daina 35 with 33-inch
27:55
TSLs, which are almost 34 inches tall, no
27:59
sway bars, and drive it every day.
28:02
My Jeep is living proof
28:03
that everybody that...
28:07
Now, mind you, it has a huge... depending
28:09
on how you drive, I'm hard on it, but I
28:12
know when to let off.
28:13
And also, we don't have any hard surface.
28:16
We don't have rocks here.
28:17
I mean, I wish we did, but we don't.
28:19
Our idea of the hills and overpass, you
28:21
know, I think in the mud, in trail-type
28:24
situations, weld them up.
28:27
I mean, if you break it, everybody says
28:28
just to throw away rear-end anyway.
28:30
What do you care?
28:32
Right.
28:32
Well, like I was telling you that day,
28:34
Saturday when we were
28:35
out there at Matt's shop,
28:37
the problem that I have with it is the
28:39
thought of having to
28:40
repair it out on the trail.
28:43
It's bad enough doing it in my garage.
28:45
But you've got an 8-1-1-4 that you've got
28:47
lined up to go in there now, don't you?
28:50
Yeah, I sure do.
28:51
I actually have an
28:52
8-1-1-4 with a limit slip diff.
28:53
So, yeah, that would be my next upgrade.
28:56
And that is the higher spline count one?
29:00
You know, I don't know.
29:01
I haven't pulled an axle and looked yet.
29:02
Okay.
29:04
But the catch is, whatever it is, it's
29:06
going to be stronger than 35.
29:09
And everybody says that the 27 spline
29:11
isn't, you know, but just
29:12
a little stronger than 35,
29:13
but not as strong as the 29 spline.
29:15
Look how long my supposedly not being
29:18
able to back out of the
29:18
driveway 35 has lasted.
29:21
Right.
29:21
Well, actually, I think that the way it
29:23
goes is if you put a
29:25
non-stock-sized tire on a
29:27
Dana 35, it explodes on the spot.
29:31
Yeah.
29:32
Well, I can prove that
29:34
myth really wrong, can't I?
29:37
Well, also, too, I think that the other
29:40
urban myth or Dana 35
29:42
myth is that sometimes they
29:44
work and sometimes they don't.
29:47
And most of the time they don't.
29:49
Of course, you know, we've seen the
29:52
YouTube videos with the
29:53
Wrangler in the hole going
29:56
up a little mud hole and he's coming up
29:57
the other side and you
29:58
hear that thing let loose.
30:00
So, you know, I don't know.
30:02
You know, maybe it was a little too much
30:03
skinny pedal the 10
30:05
times before, you know,
30:08
you know, I don't know what the magic is.
30:10
But we don't know how that Jeep was
30:12
treated to begin with.
30:14
Yeah.
30:14
And the younger, the less experienced the
30:18
driver, I'm sure also has something to do
30:20
with it.
30:21
I mean, you know, if all you know is the
30:24
bottom of the floor pan with the
30:27
accelerator, there's
30:28
no telling what you've stretched or what
30:29
you've damaged that it continues to work,
30:33
but just, you know, it's
30:34
waiting for the right moment.
30:35
So I think it's pretty clear, though,
30:38
that the Dana 35 isn't
30:40
as strong an axle as some
30:41
of the other Dana's.
30:42
But then again, it was engineered for a
30:45
light vehicle and not
30:47
engineered for a heavily modified
30:51
vehicle.
30:52
And even though it's fairly easy to put a
30:55
lift on and put larger
30:57
tires, that is a pretty
30:59
extensive modification as far as torque
31:02
to that axle and the rest of the vehicle.
31:06
Yeah.
31:06
No, I agree with you 100%.
31:09
We all know that, you know, driving style
31:12
has a lot to do with
31:13
how long something lives.
31:17
But I think that in moderation, I think
31:20
you're probably fine
31:20
running what I'm running.
31:22
But then again, like I said, we don't
31:24
have hard surfaces that we wheel on.
31:25
You know, we don't have rocks.
31:27
We don't have stuff like that.
31:29
With rocks and stuff, I can see where
31:31
they just wouldn't live long.
31:33
I mean, I'm already, even with what the
31:35
wheel and I've done with
31:36
mine, I've already noticed
31:37
some really funny characteristics of what
31:41
my Jeep's doing now that
31:42
it wasn't doing before.
31:43
So if you actually jack the rear end up,
31:45
I could take one
31:45
wheel and turn it about an
31:47
eighth of a turn before the
31:48
other wheel starts turning.
31:49
So I know I'm getting some slack in parts
31:52
that shouldn't ever
31:52
have slack with a welded
31:54
diff.
31:54
Right.
31:56
Well, that's going to happen.
31:57
I mean, there's stress and things moving
32:00
and so on and so forth.
32:01
I think one of the, I can't remember
32:03
exactly the way it is that
32:04
Big Jim puts it, but there's
32:06
something he talks about on one of the
32:08
other sites about how
32:09
you have to have it.
32:11
I don't know, Dana 60s and 35 inch tires
32:15
before you can back
32:16
it out of the driveway.
32:18
You forgot the worn winch.
32:20
You forgot the worn winch.
32:21
The worn winch.
32:23
And I think that's a habit a lot of us
32:26
get into because it's
32:28
a formula that we know.
32:31
You need this, you need
32:32
this, this, this, and this.
32:34
And it's really easy to tell people
32:37
whenever they're new and
32:38
they say, "Hey, what do I
32:40
need to do to my Jeep?"
32:41
And if you get right down to it, what
32:43
they probably need to
32:44
do to their Jeep is enjoy
32:47
it.
32:47
Tow, what would not, not
32:50
tow hooks, recovery points.
32:52
And, you know, if you can put a winch on
32:54
there, then you can get
32:56
yourself out of a lot of
32:57
stuff.
32:58
So that probably is the, the, the main
33:02
things that anybody
33:03
needs to focus on is recovery
33:05
points and a winch.
33:08
And the rest of it is just more
33:11
augmentation of your
33:12
ability to get up and over things
33:14
with ease.
33:15
And of course it looks really cool.
33:17
Yeah, I'm 100% with you on that.
33:19
I mean, you know, one thing the Jeeps do
33:21
not have at all, or at
33:23
least our Cherokees is
33:24
recovery points.
33:25
We really, you know, as far as recovery
33:26
points, if you ain't got a
33:27
hitch, you have no recovery
33:28
points.
33:30
I agree with you.
33:31
Put recovery points on it.
33:33
You know, if you have a rear sway bar and
33:35
a stock Cherokee,
33:37
hitch the rear sway bar.
33:38
There's no reason for that in the world.
33:42
Put some sway bar disconnects on it if
33:43
you don't want to, if
33:44
you don't feel confident
33:45
about losing the front
33:46
sway bar, and go wheel it.
33:47
Go enjoy it.
33:49
Use it for what it was meant for.
33:51
Go get it dirty and then go park it in
33:53
the grocery store on the
33:54
mall and let people look
33:55
at you like you're a
33:56
[bleep]
33:56
because that's what they're,
33:57
that's what they're meant to
33:58
do.
33:59
This is Big Jim 350.
34:02
[Bleep]
34:03
Hello, that's Jay Talk.com.
34:05
Except when the server's
34:06
having problems, right Jim?
34:08
And then it's not so much.
34:12
Well, that's the end of part one of the
34:15
interview with Reani.
34:16
We tried to trim it down to 30 minutes
34:19
and we did a pretty good
34:20
job of taking the, taking
34:22
the break.
34:23
It's amazing what you can do when you
34:24
actually pay attention
34:25
to the time on the clock.
34:28
So that means part two will be next
34:30
Wednesday, barring any kind
34:33
of virus, malware, freezing,
34:37
precipitation, I've got to quit saying
34:38
that word, snow, sleet,
34:42
rolling blackouts, you
34:45
know, political unrest
34:47
like they're having in Egypt.
34:49
You know, anything
34:49
could happen I suppose.
34:51
But anyway, if none of that happens, then
34:53
next Wednesday 8 p.m.
34:54
Central we'll have part
34:56
two of the interview with Reani and we'll
34:58
get a little more into
35:00
things about his bumper,
35:03
the various iterations that it went
35:06
through and how it became green.
35:09
I saw that there was a question about
35:11
that in the chat room.
35:13
I like the green.
35:14
I think that's, it really stands out.
35:16
Really makes it, really makes it pop.
35:20
It's like look at me and
35:22
get the out of the way.
35:23
Pink would be good.
35:25
I look forward to seeing that on your on
35:28
your vehicle, Wayne.
35:29
So let's get let's get Reani on the phone
35:34
so we can ask questions.
35:37
Somebody's calling.
35:40
Somebody's answering the phone.
35:42
It's an XJ Talk live phone call.
35:45
Hey, Reani, you there?
35:47
I'm here. Yeah, Wayne, you definitely got
35:49
to paint your bumper stink.
35:53
Pink and green go great together, man.
35:55
That's true.
35:56
It really does.
35:57
That's kind of a
35:57
Barbie color combination.
35:59
If it drives a Jeep, Barbie has a Jeep
36:01
one up paint them pink, right?
36:03
But it's not a it's
36:04
not a Cherokee, though.
36:05
It's got to be a Wrangler, you know,
36:06
because chicks, which
36:08
square headlights, I think hers
36:09
has square headlights.
36:10
Chicks dig the Wranglers.
36:13
Nothing wrong with that.
36:14
Wranglers are nice.
36:16
It's just not.
36:16
I guess Wayne's not going
36:17
to comment on that, huh?
36:19
It's not.
36:20
And he's a very, very long ways away.
36:22
It may take a long time for
36:24
those bits to actually get here.
36:26
And also, too, there's probably a bit of
36:28
a delay between when
36:29
we're saying it and when
36:30
he's hearing it.
36:31
Oh, true.
36:33
Pink, that means you're supporting.
36:36
I like that one.
36:39
OK, guys.
36:39
Well, Reani Arganard from XJTalk.com,
36:44
also one of our moderators, is live.
36:48
And in color on the phone and willing and
36:52
able to answer your
36:53
questions and fend off
36:55
your comments.
36:56
So you guys got any questions?
36:57
I think there you go.
36:59
No, I am not a smoker.
37:00
So no, no to the detours
37:03
question is Reani a smoker.
37:05
I'm 45 years old and never
37:06
smoked in my entire life.
37:08
So I'm not a quitter.
37:10
I never started.
37:13
Nope, no dipper either.
37:14
No tobacco of any shape, form or fashion.
37:17
Does your son use any tobacco products?
37:21
Not the young one, but the older one.
37:24
Yeah, the older one does.
37:25
But it's funny because my mom and dad
37:27
both did, but I never did it.
37:28
So I always had better
37:30
things to spend my money on.
37:32
Oh, God.
37:33
It is very expensive.
37:35
My dad was a smoker from age 16 till five
37:38
years before his death from lung cancer.
37:41
So I never wanted to do it and never did.
37:46
Lizard runner says smoking that usually
37:49
means you need a ring job, doesn't it?
37:53
If you can talk her into
37:54
a ring job, what the hell?
37:55
Yeah, I think she's trying
37:56
to talk me into a ring job.
37:57
What do you mean?
38:01
So the cough going on, what that is, that
38:05
is called allergies.
38:06
Everybody in Texas has allergies.
38:09
Except me.
38:10
None of it bothers you, Tony?
38:12
The only way I was somewhat aware of it,
38:16
my wife gets the
38:18
allergies really bad twice
38:19
a year.
38:20
And I kind of noticed that I have a
38:23
little tickle in my
38:23
throat when it's really, really
38:25
bad.
38:26
And that's before, if it had him in for
38:30
her, I would have noticed it.
38:32
It's called cold weather.
38:33
Yeah, that's something we're not used to.
38:35
It is really cold.
38:37
I've got the ceiling fan on simply
38:39
because I think I'm used
38:40
to having some airflow on
38:42
me, but I did have to turn it down a bit.
38:44
My feet are cold.
38:45
I've got socks on.
38:46
So it is very cold.
38:48
Let's see.
38:49
What's it down to?
38:49
It is now 30 degrees in Katy, which is
38:54
about 20 miles west of Houston, Texas.
38:59
Downtown bright lights.
39:01
Yeah, I'm about 45
39:02
miles north of Houston.
39:05
And they're talking here, we may never
39:07
see above freezing tomorrow.
39:09
Yeah.
39:10
So we may actually, that's why they say
39:12
if it snows, we're
39:13
getting snow and we're also
39:15
going to have sticking snow.
39:17
I want to see four foot snowdrifts.
39:20
The most snow I've
39:21
ever seen is five inches.
39:25
I don't know.
39:28
No Outlaw XJ asked Tony, are the majority
39:31
of members in or around the Houston area?
39:34
No they're not.
39:34
The Houston members are
39:37
really relatively recent.
39:40
The majority of the members were all
39:43
scattered across the
39:44
United States and international
39:46
members.
39:47
Wayne, for example,
39:48
Cantab 27, he's in New Zealand.
39:53
We have a member that recently subscribed
39:56
as a paid subscriber to
39:58
our site, is in Mongolia.
40:01
So it's a worldwide membership and we
40:05
actually started doing
40:06
some local meet and greets
40:11
in the Houston area.
40:13
And I think that got a few people from
40:16
the Houston area
40:17
together and on the site.
40:18
And it's not a club,
40:20
it's not a local thing.
40:22
It's very much a national worldwide site
40:25
for anybody that has a
40:26
Jeep Cherokee or just wants
40:29
to be a part of it.
40:31
You don't have to have a Jeep to join.
40:34
Right, and something, I think part of why
40:36
everybody thinks it's
40:37
kind of more of a Houston
40:38
based thing is because a lot of us
40:40
Houston area people are
40:42
very involved in the site.
40:44
Yes.
40:46
You know, I mean that's one of these, you
40:48
know, it's kind of
40:50
one of the things where
40:51
a lot of us, big Jim, me,
40:55
who the heck is the other one?
40:57
Big Jim, me.
40:58
There's Patrick.
41:00
Was it PCR Jeep?
41:02
PCR Jeep.
41:03
MS Mornberg, Matt.
41:06
Yeah, Matt.
41:08
There's a whole lot of us that are local
41:10
that are on there a lot
41:12
and we're the ones doing
41:13
a lot of chatting on there.
41:15
So I think that's why everybody really
41:17
thinks that we're more of
41:19
a Houston based site and
41:22
we're not.
41:22
It's not ever meant to be that.
41:24
It's just we happen to be the most
41:28
talkative of the bunch on
41:29
there, I guess, besides Wayne.
41:31
And then he's the furthest away.
41:32
And by the way, for all of y'all on here,
41:34
if you don't know, if
41:35
you want to know the
41:36
if you want to know a
41:37
lot of numbers, ask Wayne.
41:38
He's tomorrow.
41:39
That's right.
41:40
Wayne is in the future.
41:42
He's sworn in oath not to tell you if
41:44
you're going to die though.
41:45
So don't worry about that.
41:47
Yeah.
41:47
And, you know, don't
41:48
forget about Scott XJ4IV.
41:50
Yeah, he's not even that one alone.
41:52
If you don't mention
41:53
Scott, he's going to be upset.
41:55
Oh, yeah.
41:55
Yeah.
41:56
Of course, Scott.
41:57
Of course, he doesn't
41:58
make it to the show.
41:59
Well, speaking of, by the way, everybody
42:01
who's listening, Scott
42:02
was up in Waco, Texas.
42:04
I mean, Waco, Texas.
42:05
And he froze his Jeep so bad that you
42:08
water pump wouldn't turn the other day.
42:11
So it was pretty cold out there.
42:12
He said it was 10
42:13
degrees with no wind chill.
42:14
But hasn't he been meaning to change that
42:19
that water pump since
42:20
before the longarms?
42:21
Oh, yeah, but he hasn't done it yet.
42:23
Golly, I just I don't think I could drive
42:25
that far on something
42:26
that I knew was marginal.
42:27
Yeah, me neither.
42:28
I guess that's part of the adventure.
42:30
What's going on there, Kurt?
42:31
You need to put your speed back up.
42:32
How much snow you get?
42:34
See if you heard me.
42:37
By the way, for I think most of y'all
42:39
already know, but a well-minced Kurt.
42:42
Right.
42:44
18 inches of snow.
42:45
My goodness.
42:47
Wow.
42:47
Yeah, Mark was Mark commented quite a
42:50
while back in the chat
42:52
room about, you know, you
42:53
poor babies about having to deal with the
42:56
cold because, you
42:58
know, he's originally from
43:00
was it Connecticut, Mark, I think.
43:02
And now he's in in KY.
43:05
So when I talked to him, he he complains
43:11
about the weather in
43:12
Kentucky, but it's really
43:13
not the cold.
43:14
It's the storms, the severe storms.
43:17
I don't think he's used to that.
43:18
And of course, we're more used to that in
43:20
the Houston area, just not the cold.
43:24
You know what I really found out is it
43:26
takes me about three
43:27
months before I'm a little
43:28
sick of the 100 degree days, you know,
43:30
the 90 plus degree days,
43:32
about three months time.
43:33
I'm thinking, you know, I wouldn't mind a
43:34
little bit of cool weather.
43:35
It takes me about 10 seconds to go.
43:37
You know what?
43:38
You go back up north.
43:39
This sucks.
43:41
I can't handle the hot weather.
43:42
I just I really don't like it.
43:45
Especially don't like the electric bills.
43:47
So I'm a much happier
43:49
person when it's cold.
43:50
You know, when it's cold like this, I can
43:53
sleep under the covers.
43:54
I don't ever sleep under the covers, but
43:56
when it's cold like this, I can.
43:57
And I like that.
43:59
I just turned the AC down further.
44:02
But for girlfriend freezes her butt off
44:04
in the summertime,
44:05
I've got it like you can
44:06
hang meat in the bedroom.
44:07
Oh, God, I bet you she does.
44:09
What does she all have?
44:10
Ninety five pounds.
44:11
Yeah, about ninety five pounds.
44:12
She likes to say she's 100.
44:14
Not quite.
44:15
Yeah, yeah, I bet you I
44:16
bet you she gets cold.
44:17
What easy.
44:18
Yes, she does.
44:19
She's come in from work and
44:20
she's like a little popsicle.
44:23
But yeah, we're.
44:25
Should snow should be
44:26
traveled to not come to you, Reani.
44:29
I agree.
44:30
100 percent.
44:31
Big Jim 350 says, see,
44:34
all I just heard was K.
44:35
Why he wouldn't be he
44:37
wasn't paying attention before.
44:40
I think he said he's cutting out on him.
44:42
Well, that can happen, but you could
44:43
always catch this catch the show and it's
44:46
uncut entirety from the podcast, which is
44:51
available on iTunes now, which is really
44:54
cool and it's really cool that it's free
44:57
and also to on from the XJ talk website,
45:01
which we were talking in the chat room.
45:03
This could be old news.
45:04
I'm sure by the time some some people
45:06
hear the podcast, but
45:08
we've been we switched
45:09
over from the old server, old
45:12
underpowered server to
45:14
the new, more powerful
45:17
server.
45:18
And we've been having some issues because
45:20
anytime you make a
45:21
major change like that,
45:22
it doesn't quite go as
45:24
what you would expect it to.
45:26
So having some growing pains, but it'll
45:28
get stabilized out here pretty quick.
45:31
Yeah.
45:32
When you were saying all that, the new
45:33
and improved server, that doesn't work.
45:36
No, it's from the old,
45:37
old server that did work.
45:39
By the way, it actually works great that
45:41
it has to do with how
45:44
long the changes take to
45:47
get out pushed out to all the different
45:48
internet service providers and the DNS
45:53
equipment that's out there that each
45:54
individual individual uses.
45:57
So it takes a while for it to
45:59
get all to get all pushed out.
46:01
Hey, Punisher, where do you live at?
46:03
I mean, I know you live in Florida, but
46:04
what a part of
46:05
Florida if it's 78 degrees,
46:07
where do you live at?
46:08
That's surprising.
46:09
I thought that front was
46:10
all the way up the East coast.
46:13
I thought it was all the way down to like
46:14
Miami, Fort Charlotte.
46:16
Where is that at?
46:17
It's in Florida.
46:18
Yeah, I know it's in Florida.
46:20
What major cities that by?
46:21
Punisher, a real good time in total.
46:24
Southwest.
46:27
Okay.
46:27
So there's a city named Southwest.
46:29
Where is it that was that?
46:31
Southwest Florida, I
46:32
think is what he's saying.
46:33
So down kind of exact
46:35
opposite two hours south of Tampa.
46:37
Okay.
46:38
I know where Tampa is.
46:39
Thank you.
46:39
Can you see the shuttle when it launches?
46:43
Yeah.
46:44
Can you see the shuttle?
46:45
No, he could, he, the shuttle
46:47
launched from the East side.
46:48
He says, yeah, he says, yeah.
46:50
West side, I guess.
46:51
Now, is it the actual shuttle or is it
46:53
something you see when you drink?
46:54
Yeah.
46:55
Golf side.
46:55
So it does launch from the golf side.
46:57
Yeah.
46:57
East coast.
46:58
Cape Canaveral.
46:59
Yeah.
47:00
It goes, goes East and down range.
47:02
So in case something
47:03
happens, it falls in the water.
47:05
So Punisher, you're about
47:06
one halfway down the state.
47:08
Or three quarters of
47:08
the way down the state.
47:10
I don't know if he's going to answer me.
47:11
Yeah.
47:11
He'll, he'll, he'll answer eventually.
47:14
You're what, if you like, look at the
47:16
state, are you like three
47:17
quarters of the way down there or are you
47:19
like straight across from Miami?
47:20
We're about, are you as far as two hours?
47:23
Cause I don't know how far, how long it
47:25
takes to get from one end of
47:26
Florida to the other.
47:27
Yeah.
47:27
He could go to over to Houston.
47:28
He really could, or at least Galveston.
47:30
I don't know.
47:31
I don't think you can get
47:31
to Houston from the golf.
47:34
Well, you just use a boat.
47:35
Comes to an order.
47:36
Do I know where Paul Myers is?
47:36
Yes, I do.
47:37
I used to live in Miami Punisher.
47:39
So yeah, I know, I know Florida a little
47:41
bit, 30 minutes north of it.
47:42
Okay.
47:43
Yeah.
47:43
I lived in Miami for two
47:44
years before I moved to Florida.
47:45
I mean, before I moved to Texas and now
47:47
we went, we went swimming on Christmas
47:49
day and New Year's day
47:51
when we lived in Miami.
47:52
Yeah.
47:53
Bad move, especially today.
47:54
Oh, wait, check it out.
47:55
Tony has officially found Florida.
48:00
No, let's see.
48:02
He was saying Southwest, right?
48:05
Oh, there's, um, yeah, they get, okay.
48:11
There's, I bet you we can find Punisher's
48:14
house because this is Google maps.
48:16
Sarasota.
48:18
Oh, okay.
48:21
So you're the right by Sarasota.
48:23
I lost it.
48:29
Oh, there he goes.
48:30
I lost it again.
48:31
That's all we needed.
48:31
Paul's house picks for Charlotte.
48:35
Oh, did you see it?
48:36
He said he said he saw a porch Charlotte.
48:38
Are you like right on the coast?
48:40
Punisher, are you off
48:41
the coast a little bit?
48:42
You know, if he's right here, you just
48:45
passed it right there.
48:46
We see the 75 go back down, Tony, a
48:48
little bit, a little bit down,
48:50
down, down, keep going down.
48:52
Nope.
48:53
The other down, got up down, Tony.
48:56
Down, down, down,
48:59
down, right a little bit.
49:00
There it is.
49:01
See for Charlotte.
49:02
Just passed it.
49:03
There you go.
49:04
Oh, okay.
49:04
That's what it is.
49:05
Cause there's a bit of a delay.
49:07
Uh, cause I've actually been sitting
49:08
still here for the
49:09
last couple of seconds.
49:11
So you live in Port Charlotte, right?
49:13
Oh, we need to get some pictures.
49:15
That's going to be a really pretty place.
49:17
Charlotte Harbor.
49:18
Oh, if you put your, if you put your
49:20
address up on there, we could
49:21
probably tune into your house there.
49:23
Punisher.
49:24
Yeah, that's exactly what he wants.
49:28
So when this is up on YouTube and
49:31
everything else, people will be able
49:32
to find it.
49:35
Well, he's saying, well, he wouldn't mind
49:36
people coming looking.
49:37
Would you?
49:39
No comment.
49:39
I love it.
49:40
There we go.
49:41
All right.
49:41
Well, anyway, that's
49:42
where a Punisher lives.
49:43
So, uh, that was a good,
49:45
uh, five minutes of the show.
49:48
Oh, you just put it up there.
49:49
Actually put it in there.
49:50
2147 Shallow Street Shiloh, I guess.
49:55
I didn't, I didn't copy it.
50:02
All right.
50:02
20.
50:03
Let's see.
50:04
2147 Shiloh.
50:08
And that was, where was it?
50:11
Um, Port.
50:14
I think you said Charlotte,
50:15
uh, Charlotte Park, didn't you?
50:16
Yeah, right on it.
50:23
That's cause we're all talking.
50:24
We're not, we all stop talking.
50:25
Park.
50:28
That's you right there.
50:29
Oh, look, see, I recognize the driveway.
50:31
Remember the red driveway?
50:33
Oh, sure.
50:34
It's there's a red driveway.
50:35
It's taking a little bit to update.
50:37
That's funny.
50:44
You get in his brooms ready.
50:45
I think there's no Jeep in the driveway.
50:47
I drive away in red.
50:49
I think I'm looking at the wrong one.
50:50
No, that's the, that's the right one.
50:52
It just looks different.
50:53
Yellow house.
50:54
Yeah, that's it.
50:54
Yeah.
50:55
Wait there.
50:55
Jeep in the driveway.
50:57
That's the bad thing about Google.
50:58
You never know when they're coming by.
51:00
Oh, no.
51:04
He may have just been moving in.
51:06
Although that's a, that's a flummer.
51:08
Okay.
51:08
That's pretty funny.
51:09
Yeah.
51:10
This looks like a great
51:10
place for UFO sightings.
51:14
Look at the woods.
51:15
He can go off road.
51:16
He can do like Wayne does.
51:17
He can just, in this case, he can just go
51:20
across the street and be off road.
51:22
That's funny.
51:23
He said that's an old picture.
51:24
And same thing.
51:25
If I zoomed in around my house and the
51:27
picture's got to be at
51:28
least three years old.
51:29
No.
51:30
Yeah.
51:30
I mean, I'm in the same boat.
51:31
He is some of these
51:32
pictures are really old.
51:33
Can you imagine how much money Google
51:35
spent for nothing other than just fuel?
51:38
So yeah, no joke.
51:41
They just do a current put on there.
51:43
That's creepy.
51:44
You stalker.
51:47
That was kind of fun.
51:49
We know where Tony does
51:51
with his ex on our Addis.
51:54
Yeah, I did that with Wayne.
51:56
My goodness.
51:57
The Christ Church New
51:59
Zealand is a Christ Church.
52:02
New Zealand is just beautiful.
52:04
I was looking at some of the architecture
52:06
and the layout of the streets and that is
52:09
this really beautiful country.
52:10
It was very flat where he was, but in, I
52:13
think within probably
52:15
an hour or less from
52:17
his house, you could be in the mountains.
52:19
It was, I mean, I could tell from the
52:22
street views there
52:22
that it was quite nice.
52:24
It's a shame that they're going through
52:25
so many, so many
52:28
earthquakes and aftershocks.
52:30
Oh, I know.
52:31
And it's really funny because, you know,
52:33
where, where Wayne is the first time I
52:36
ever was looking at Wayne's profile, you
52:38
know, I saw he lived in Christ Church.
52:40
I thought, well, he's got to be a, he's
52:41
got to be a preacher or something.
52:44
Well, that would be a, a town full of, a
52:49
full of preachers, but you know, yeah, I
52:51
know in different, different parts of the
52:53
world's different cultures, but you know,
52:55
then the more, the more we learn about
52:58
the other folks, the
52:59
more it just seems that
53:00
we're all the same, certainly the same as
53:03
far as our love for the Jeep Cherokees.
53:05
My wife's a minister.
53:08
You know, I found, I didn't, I didn't
53:10
know this until last Saturday that Wayne
53:14
wasn't the one that changed
53:15
his avatar to a submarine.
53:17
No, that was, that was Matt.
53:19
Yeah.
53:20
Matt told me, told me, he
53:22
says that that could be arranged.
53:24
I told him it could be
53:25
arranged and it showed up.
53:28
Hey Wayne, can you guess who maybe had
53:30
the idea of doing that?
53:32
I don't think Wayne's still on here.
53:34
I think Wayne's off.
53:34
Well, it said, it said it was chopping
53:36
and he kept, kept
53:37
getting kicked off, but he'll
53:39
be talking to the computer later when
53:41
he's, whenever he's
53:43
listening to the podcast.
53:44
Oh yeah.
53:47
Oh, did, uh, farming Ray show up?
53:50
Yep. Sure.
53:50
He's sure he's on there too.
53:51
Let's see.
53:52
How do I put this thing back?
53:54
Problem with doing something new.
53:56
Yeah, Matt did mine too.
53:57
Thanks to Rene and Paul.
54:00
Well, there's a picture of your, um, at
54:02
the time new to you Jeep Cherokee.
54:06
Um, I could possibly be one of the very
54:08
first pictures ever taken of the Jeep.
54:10
Yeah.
54:10
I was digging around on the site tonight
54:12
trying to find some pictures, uh, so I
54:14
put up here on the, uh, during the, uh,
54:16
the interview and quite a few of the
54:19
pictures that you put up, uh, now are not
54:21
available via a photo bucket.
54:23
You've moved them or deleted them.
54:27
Well, see, it shouldn't be.
54:28
I should still, every picture that I've
54:30
had up, I've redone to make sure they
54:31
were still in there.
54:33
So you don't, do you have any of those,
54:34
uh, the TSLs on there?
54:37
Um, I took some myself on,
54:42
on Saturday, but I don't think
54:44
that, uh, I don't know.
54:46
That's that's those are ATs.
54:52
Now those are the ATs.
54:54
So now I don't, uh, I don't have any with
54:56
the, uh, I don't have
54:57
any with the, uh, the
54:59
tires that you have on there now.
55:01
All right.
55:04
Too bad.
55:05
Cause that was, that's a really good
55:06
pictures of a Jeep when it's all, uh, the
55:08
way it looks now, it's really a huge
55:11
difference between that
55:12
and what I've got now.
55:14
Well, we've got a week, uh, cause the
55:16
second half of the interview will be next
55:18
week and, uh, we'll be able to get those
55:20
pictures, um, either from photo bucket or
55:25
repost it or something and we can have
55:27
them for next week's show.
55:31
So let me, let me throw in a couple of
55:36
things here before we, uh, before we wrap
55:38
this up, did you know that
55:40
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Just go to facebook.com
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55:53
Well, you can contact me
55:54
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55:58
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56:01
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It's where you go
56:16
when you're not off road.
56:17
Well, Rainey, I want to thank you very
56:19
much for, uh, not only, uh, doing the
56:21
interview, but being here on the phone
56:23
with us and hopefully next week.
56:25
You'll be able to join us again.
56:27
And you, all of you guys should know
56:29
that, uh, if you want to be on the show,
56:32
uh, love to find out who you are, your
56:35
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56:38
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56:39
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56:41
So if you, um, it doesn't,
56:43
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56:45
You don't have to be somebody with a
56:47
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56:50
Uh, just gotta be you
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and tell your story.
56:53
Um, we're, he does a great job with that.
56:55
I was surprised that, uh, uh, Scott XJ4IV
56:59
was such a great interview.
57:00
And that was just
57:00
kind of an off the wall.
57:02
Let's test the equipment type of show.
57:06
So, Rainey, was there anything that you
57:07
wanted to say before, um,
57:09
we wrap this thing up?
57:11
Well, pretty much nothing much.
57:13
I mean, um, y'all have a good night and I
57:16
guess we'll talk to
57:17
y'all next week as well.
57:19
Excellent.
57:20
So, um, I'm looking forward, I don't know
57:23
about you, Rainey,
57:24
but I'm looking forward
57:25
to see what the weather's going to do.
57:27
Because if we're going to get the bad
57:30
weather, the, the sleet and the snow and
57:33
so on and so forth, it's supposed to be
57:35
around noon tomorrow.
57:37
Hey Tony, I'm having a hard
57:38
time hearing you over the music.
57:41
I was, I was just going to say, what do
57:43
you think the, uh, the likelihood of us
57:44
getting the bad weather is going to be?
57:47
I hope it's a hundred percent likelihood.
57:49
Matter of fact, um, next week when we're
57:53
on, I've found, I'm looking at my build
57:55
thread and there's some really good
57:57
pictures of some of the stuff we were
57:58
talking about next week, which we'll be
58:00
talking about some building some
58:02
bumpers and stuff like that.
58:04
And I got some really good
58:05
pictures in here of all that.
58:07
Um, we, we probably pull them up in, um,
58:11
if we get the snow, like we're supposed
58:13
to, I'll make sure I get some pictures of
58:15
my Jeep and the snow and, uh, I'll get
58:17
them posted up as well and let y'all
58:19
show, uh, you know,
58:19
show all of y'all who are
58:21
used to seeing that what our idea of snow
58:23
is, which it's nothing compared to what
58:25
the idea of it is.
58:27
Mark says, stay off the road, Tony.
58:29
Mark, not only am I going to be on the
58:31
road, I'll have the smartphone set up so
58:35
that I'm videotaping while I'm driving
58:37
around and I'll have that up on the site.
58:39
The site you can't get to.
58:43
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
58:47
I am too.
58:48
I really am.
58:50
But most of the time whenever they're
58:52
calling for someone like this, it doesn't
58:53
pan out.
58:54
Um, occasionally on the tropical waves,
58:58
hurricanes and stuff like that, it will
59:00
be as bad or worse than what they're
59:03
predicting, but very
59:05
seldom do we actually
59:06
get the, the freezing, uh, rain, snow,
59:11
sleet, uh, more often
59:13
than not, if it's a,
59:14
if it's a hard freeze with water
59:15
associated, it's a, um, uh, it's, it's,
59:19
you know, sleet and ice, a
59:21
lot of buildup of ice on things.
59:24
Uh, hardly ever, ever snow.
59:26
So it's a big deal if,
59:28
uh, if we get the snow.
59:31
So again, guys, thank you
59:33
very much for joining us.
59:35
I think we may start, uh, start the show
59:37
about 30 or 45 minutes late.
59:40
We're still going to say it starts at
59:41
eight, but everybody shows up about 30
59:43
or 45 minutes after the show starts.
59:45
You know who you are.
59:47
Anyway, thank you very much for joining.
59:50
And don't forget you can
59:52
listen to these things on iTunes.
59:54
So if you miss it, you don't have to.