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Chuck & Buck 6-16 Hour 2: Spencer Hawes, The Dumper returns and the fever is taking over! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Shut up, turns it on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: So up goodness on those starch I'm i'm so a
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  Speaker 2: ji send the wait against gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: I was welcome about your faithful oh ken, I produce
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  Speaker 1: this time toucho just on that has no ji touch
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  Speaker 1: hold no no no no touch. Hooray morning to you all,
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  Speaker 1: seven o'clock hour here on this Tuesday, Yes World Cup
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  Speaker 1: action right here on Seattle soil yesterday. Gorgeous setting. Stadium
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  Speaker 1: looked fantastic. Oh man, filling it up with all those
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  Speaker 1: uh Belgium red shirts look fantastic yesterday. Just a great
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  Speaker 1: setting for the world's biggest sporting event to be hosted
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  Speaker 1: here in Seattle for the first time. And we got
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  Speaker 1: a droll well call it a drool out of it
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  Speaker 1: Fox Sports with the highlights there. One won the final
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  Speaker 1: between Belgium and Egypt, and so the World Cup does continue.
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  Speaker 1: There were actually four matches yesterday in the World Cup
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  Speaker 1: in four different venues, and all of them ended in
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  Speaker 1: a draw. All four hunh awful, you don't say yeah,
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  Speaker 1: including Spain, which is in a lot of people's opinion
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  Speaker 1: the favorite. But Spain played to a droll against Cape
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  Speaker 1: Verde yesterday, and so not a lot of not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of solutions yesterday, just a bunch of we'll call
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  Speaker 1: it a draws.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one game that was a two to
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  Speaker 3: two draw, so at least they got to see four goals.
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  Speaker 3: But then yes, Spain Cape Verde zero zero nil nil,
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  Speaker 3: as they say, yes, was still apparently very exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Well no, not really. France debuted versus Senegal. They will
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  Speaker 1: do that today. Argentina also debuts today as well, against Algeria.
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  Speaker 1: Mariners return to the field tonight against the Baltimore Orioles.
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  Speaker 1: It will be Logan Gilbert against Brandon Young, who was
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  Speaker 1: terrific against US last week in Maryland. Hopefully we get
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  Speaker 1: a different result. Of course, the biggest story involving the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners the return to the lineup of Cal Raleigh, who
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  Speaker 1: is going to be activated from the injury list and
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  Speaker 1: in the lineup tonight JP Crawford. Same thing holds true
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  Speaker 1: for him. Of course, JP only missed ten days where
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  Speaker 1: Cal miss thirty, so obviously we are all eagerly anticipating
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  Speaker 1: the return of cal Raley to the Mariners lineup. College
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  Speaker 1: World Series continues today a couple of elimination games West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia and Troy playing for their College World Series lives.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia and Texas will have a rematch with the same
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  Speaker 1: thing at stake. Meanwhile, Oklahoma and North Carolina are the
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  Speaker 1: two teams sitting pretty both to and oh so far.
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  Speaker 1: In Omaha and Kraken, their season came to a close,
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  Speaker 1: but talk about how they're not going to wait very
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  Speaker 1: long into this offseason to make some trades. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about that a little bit later on in the show.
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  Speaker 1: US Open Week this week, make sure you're participating in
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  Speaker 1: the Major Golf Challenge. And yes, the Seahawks one series
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  Speaker 1: continues today at eight o'clock with the legendary Walter Jones,
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  Speaker 1: so make sure you're tuned in for that at eight o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, another legend joining us on the radio program
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  Speaker 1: to put a rap on our NBA playoff coverage, our
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  Speaker 1: NBA Playoff analysts for each of the last two years.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully, you know, hopefully he's calmed down a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like the nerves are a little afraid,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little anger was a little ramped up the
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  Speaker 1: last time we spoke to him. Since his buddy Mitch
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  Speaker 1: Johnson got deprived of an NBA Championship, and so joining
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  Speaker 1: us on the program is low Coal basketball legend Spencer Halles.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, man, Good morning. I'm doing well. You're
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  Speaker 1: doing all right?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 5: I'm processing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still in processing. Okay, there are stages.
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  Speaker 5: Now it's I forget the stages of grief, but going
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  Speaker 5: through one of them.
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  Speaker 1: You're going through one of them. So you're still having
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  Speaker 1: a hard time getting over this. Huh.
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  Speaker 4: It's to be that close, and you know that the
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  Speaker 4: seventy two percent or whatever it was of the series
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  Speaker 4: that you have the lead and then get gentlemen swept
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  Speaker 4: is just it's it's not sitting well.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly did go wrong? What as far as you
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  Speaker 1: could tell, was keeping the Spurs from holding leads? Was
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  Speaker 1: it more what the Knicks were doing or was it
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  Speaker 1: more of what the Spurs weren't doing down the stretch.
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  Speaker 5: It's always a combination. But the thing I.
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  Speaker 4: Look back at the really was the one you knew
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  Speaker 4: it was going to be hard to come back from
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  Speaker 4: the Game four in New York.
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  Speaker 5: Just the decision making on the shot selection down the
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  Speaker 5: stretch by a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of their guys, and I don't think Wemby was exempt
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  Speaker 4: from it as well, just time and score that it's
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  Speaker 4: everyone's talking about the inexperienced, the inexperienced, the inexperience.
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  Speaker 5: I buy that to a certain extent.
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  Speaker 4: I think by the time you get through knocking off
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  Speaker 4: the defending champs to go to the finals, I think
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  Speaker 4: I think the experience that you gained from that. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Parker wasn't a rookie by the end, Castle wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: second year guy. Those guys that had grown beyond that.
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  Speaker 4: But it just shows you when you run into a
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  Speaker 4: team like the veteran Nicks that have that collective kind
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  Speaker 4: of shared experiences going back to college and winning at
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  Speaker 4: the highest level there, it's that can that can make
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  Speaker 4: a make up for a lot, and certainly a talent
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  Speaker 4: discrepancy that I don't think anyone would argue with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't mean to pile on him because
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  Speaker 1: I always have liked him as a player all the
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  Speaker 1: way going back to Kentucky. But the one guy that
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  Speaker 1: seemed like he wanted to take the shot was the
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  Speaker 1: one guy who couldn't make anything, and that was dearon Fox.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think he's wearing this after a couple
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  Speaker 1: of lackluster games.
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  Speaker 4: In Game four and five, wlackcluster is a bit of
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  Speaker 4: an understatement. I can't imagine he's he's having the best week.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 4: He can always just do the lebron and go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and look at call his agent up and look ahead
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  Speaker 4: at the money he's got coming over the next four years.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think that's going to help him at
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  Speaker 4: this point either. I mean, that's a tough one. I've
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  Speaker 4: never I can't remember seeing a guy, especially a guy
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  Speaker 4: as talented and productive as him, go on the sort
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  Speaker 4: of Coles continued cold streak. You know, you see it
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  Speaker 4: for a game or two, but just to keep trying
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  Speaker 4: and keep missing. I know it didn't make a lot
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  Speaker 4: of us happy, and I can't imagine it's sitting very
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  Speaker 4: well with him either.
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  Speaker 1: A right Spencer Hawes's with us putting a rap on
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  Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs, the NBA Finals. Have you spoken to
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  Speaker 1: your friend Mitch Johnson since how's he doing?
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  Speaker 4: I have not.
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  Speaker 5: I'll let that one breathe a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, all right, but how do you knowing him the
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  Speaker 1: way you do? How do you think he responds to
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  Speaker 1: all of this? It's still a young team with a
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  Speaker 1: very bright future, but this, this tastes I mean, blowing
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  Speaker 1: four double digit leads in one NBA finals, I am
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  Speaker 1: curious how long it does linger with this group. What
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  Speaker 1: will Mitch do to make sure that he pushes it out?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he's he's gonna be fine. I think
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  Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not worried about him. You know, this
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  Speaker 4: fundamentally altering him. I think he's got enough. I know
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  Speaker 4: he's got enough balance in his life that he'll be
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  Speaker 4: able to move past this.
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  Speaker 5: But he is to grow from it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's the opportunity that they all have collectively,
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  Speaker 4: is if they would have won this one and it
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  Speaker 4: would have come seemingly as easy as it came for
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  Speaker 4: them up up until the finals, that's tough to course
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  Speaker 4: correct going forward when things start going sideways. So I
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  Speaker 4: think this gives everybody on that team an opportunity, from
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  Speaker 4: the rookies to Mitch and the rest of the coaching staff.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to force the front office to probably look
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  Speaker 4: into making some changes to try and bolster the areas
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  Speaker 4: where they have weaknesses on the roster. So everybody's going
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  Speaker 4: to get better from this, and I think that's the
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  Speaker 4: blessing in the skies when you get so close and then,
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  Speaker 4: as i'd imagine, they feel half something ripped away. Everyone's
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  Speaker 4: got to take a look in the mirror and everyone's
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  Speaker 4: got to grow from it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one last thing on the Spurs, and then I
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  Speaker 1: want to shed some light on the Knicks, because obviously
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  Speaker 1: they deserve a lot of credit here in winning the
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  Speaker 1: NBA Championship. But you know, I wasn't overly impressed with
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  Speaker 1: the way Wimby kind of conducted himself. I mean, at
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  Speaker 1: age twenty two, I'll get him a little pass on.
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  Speaker 1: Haven't been here before, haven't done this before. But I
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  Speaker 1: mean he was at times with the media, certainly maybe
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  Speaker 1: even with the officials, kind of straddling that disrespect line.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want this guy to end up being a
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  Speaker 1: heel or a villain in the NBA. He's just there's
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  Speaker 1: too much you like about him. So what what what
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  Speaker 1: is it that you saw from Wimby? And and do
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  Speaker 1: you see any warning signs that Mitch might have to
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  Speaker 1: deal with here to get him on the right.
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  Speaker 5: Path so he will become a heel. That's inevitable. That's
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  Speaker 5: just the arc of the superstar in sports.
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  Speaker 4: And what we'd like to do as fans, but he's
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  Speaker 4: got to he's got to win one first and then
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  Speaker 4: people got to get sick of him, and then then
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  Speaker 4: he can become the heel.
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  Speaker 5: But I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that for a guy that's been so polished
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  Speaker 4: and you know, what you see is what you get,
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  Speaker 4: it's not too good to be true. And that's been
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  Speaker 4: my experience from you know, from everyone around around him
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  Speaker 4: that knows him better. And I don't I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: he's not the guy that he's portrayed as. I think
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  Speaker 4: he is an incredible young man, but he saw his
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  Speaker 4: immaturity come out on the court and then I think,
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  Speaker 4: especially after that Game seven, off the court. But once again,
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  Speaker 4: he's he's twenty two. He's got a spotlight on him
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  Speaker 4: like few humans in the world, at least at this juncture, do,
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  Speaker 4: and I think he kind of reached his breaking point
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  Speaker 4: both on and off the court over the course of
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  Speaker 4: these playoffs. And I think after that press conference that
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  Speaker 4: was a little bit of the culmination, and I bet
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  Speaker 4: I would be willing to imagine once the dust settles,
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  Speaker 4: his team's going to get to work on correcting that
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  Speaker 4: and making sure that he handles things differently going forward.
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Oz is with us right here. He's been with
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  Speaker 1: it throughout the NBA Playoffs for a second year in
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  Speaker 1: a row. Outstanding analysis of the NBA Finals, the entire
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  Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs, and our final conversation within this NBA season.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Knicks. I mean, how big is
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  Speaker 1: the pair on Jalen Brunson. I mean it might be
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest and in NBA history. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that guy is unbelievable in the fourth quarter of basketball games.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying, I mean, I can't really describe it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to think back, who's a comparable, and I see
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  Speaker 4: a lot of AI. To me, this is no disrespect
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  Speaker 4: to AI. The game was played differently, but he's so
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  Speaker 4: much more efficient and especially with his ability pre point line.
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  Speaker 4: But what a fun player to watch, not necessarily if
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  Speaker 4: you're rooting to the other team, but the way that
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  Speaker 4: he just kind of kept going. You know, the first
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  Speaker 4: three four games of that series. His his numbers weren't
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  Speaker 4: they were. His numbers were good, his efficiency was not.
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  Speaker 4: It seemed like Castle found something that he wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 4: stop him, but he could slow him down. He could
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  Speaker 4: make sure the other guys didn't get going, and then
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of like all hell broke loose and
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  Speaker 4: in that game five. But credit to him, Credit to
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  Speaker 4: the Knicks. If they weren't New York and they if
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  Speaker 4: they weren't a team from New York and they weren't
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  Speaker 4: playing for the Spurs, they'd be about the easiest non
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  Speaker 4: local team to root for.
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  Speaker 5: I think you could find.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yeah, guys, that a lot of underdogs,
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  Speaker 4: guys that are fun to watch, A coach that was
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  Speaker 4: like their fourth choice to be their coach this year
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  Speaker 4: and then ends up voysing Larry O'Brien. There's there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of positive storylines to that team and personalities. It's
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  Speaker 4: just it says New York on their jersey and that
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  Speaker 4: makes it kind of hard to hard.
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  Speaker 5: To cheer for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and then all the goofball celebrities, you know,
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  Speaker 1: acting like idiots on the front row didn't help matters either.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm alright with Nick fans who love basketball
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  Speaker 1: finally getting rewarded fifty three years of passion, But man,
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  Speaker 1: that was quite the circus that they were putting on
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  Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden. But you're right, it distracts you
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  Speaker 1: from how likable the actual players on the Knicks are
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  Speaker 1: and what a great story that this was and it
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  Speaker 1: culminated with a championship. Spencer OSS's with us. So can
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  Speaker 1: they do it again? Or do you put san Antonio
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  Speaker 1: as the favorite for next year? Do you put Okay
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  Speaker 1: c Is a favorite for next year? Can anybody else
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  Speaker 1: get into this picture next year?
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm taking the field. I don't think that.
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  Speaker 4: I think the stars had to align to a certain
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  Speaker 4: extent for the Knicks. Not to take anything away from
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  Speaker 4: from what they've done. They're the champs, they earned it,
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  Speaker 4: they deserve it, and they're celebrating it. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: you got Okay see in a position where you can
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  Speaker 4: never say they have to get desperate, but for the
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  Speaker 4: first time probably in a while, they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 4: start thinking about maybe shaking things up. And that's that's
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  Speaker 4: a wild guard because you know, Pressy's not gonna make
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  Speaker 4: him worse. Uh the Yannis Boston Miami excuse me, Clippers,
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  Speaker 4: whatever three way trade the rumors are going. That's you
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't think he's going to a team that's not trying
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  Speaker 4: to compete for a championship. That be he beingy honest.
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  Speaker 4: The Spurs, they might have to start thinking about being
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  Speaker 4: making a move. And all those young guys aren't gonna
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  Speaker 4: get any worse. I mean, Nuggets are probably gonna reload.
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  Speaker 4: You got teams that aren't just gonna sit around and
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  Speaker 4: stay idle. I think the league's already positioning themselves to
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  Speaker 4: how how can we combaut Wemby I saw okay, see
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  Speaker 4: he's rumored to be taken, or trying to position Themsel
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  Speaker 4: to take the kid Mara from Michigan, another seven to
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  Speaker 4: three guy to try and slow him down. So I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't say the Knicks. I think they'll be in the
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  Speaker 4: top four, top five of favorites. But there's been so
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  Speaker 4: much parody in the league last decade or so, which
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  Speaker 4: has been a lot of fun to watch after the
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  Speaker 4: Warriors kind of wrecked it for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch the playoffs at all differently? And maybe
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  Speaker 1: your friendship with Mitch just sort of overrode everything, but
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  Speaker 1: the Sonics and us feeling like we're closer to that
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  Speaker 1: happening than ever before. Arguably, did you watch the NBA
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  Speaker 1: playoffs this year a little differently with that in the
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  Speaker 1: back of your mind, that it might not be that
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  Speaker 1: long before we're watching NBA basketball here again in Seattle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I did.
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  Speaker 4: My wife and I were talking about how stressful basketball
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  Speaker 4: is when you care about would you really care about
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  Speaker 4: the outcome? I mean, I think that was how I
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  Speaker 4: how I tried to kind of think put in perspective
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  Speaker 4: watching the Spurs. It's the first time in a while
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  Speaker 4: that a basketball team, you know, I've been this and
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  Speaker 4: invested in, and I think that it's hard not to
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  Speaker 4: kind of start thinking forward and say, man, can you
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  Speaker 4: imagine if this were the Sonics and and you know,
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  Speaker 4: we could you don't not have to get on a
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  Speaker 4: four hour flight to go watch the playoff games. So
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  Speaker 4: it's it's hard not to let that creep in. I'm
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  Speaker 4: still trying to be as patient as possible, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: the other my heart's kind of running out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well they better not pull the rug now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that's going to do to people, because.
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  Speaker 4: I'm worried about I'm worried about Portland. Yeah, what the
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  Speaker 4: what that guy's doing down there? And uh MBA media
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  Speaker 4: is trying as hard as it can to hold him accountable.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm worried.
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  Speaker 4: It's just there's a lot of Clay Bennett stink playbook
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  Speaker 4: on what's going on down the road on I five.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. Well, man, it's been a
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  Speaker 1: fun ride with you. Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff. And uh and and we loved the Spencer
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  Speaker 1: Mitch friendship we got to know about here the last
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  Speaker 1: few weeks. So uh, don't be a stranger. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: we'll be bugging you soon. But again, thanks a million
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  Speaker 1: for everything.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. But last thing, who won the
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  Speaker 5: Who won the challenge?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I should mention that should Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there you go, Yeah, you won you one? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: bring it up every time and yeah, like you're like,
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  Speaker 1: you brought it up every week and now you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to mention it when I actually did win. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of one green jacket draft and he wins it. Yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 1: your investment and the spurs paid off. Even with Dearon
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  Speaker 1: Fox playing as poorly as he was down the stretch,
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  Speaker 1: he's still got you a lot of points. So you
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  Speaker 1: had three hundred and twenty seven points from him. Your
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  Speaker 1: team of wimby Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Williams and dearon Fox.
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  Speaker 1: You beat me by sixty three points.
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  Speaker 5: Congratulations Jaylen Williams. Jalen Williams didn't give me much. Can
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  Speaker 5: you imagine if I had a healthy roster.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I could imagine. Yeah, you would have been better.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he's rubbing it in now, kind of
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  Speaker 3: like it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta celebrate the wins when you get him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, the trophies on the way.
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  Speaker 5: All right, look in the mail, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. I was actually going to celebrate that
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to have Spencer come
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  Speaker 1: on the show with us tomorrow, so I needed to
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  Speaker 1: celebrate his championship with him right there.
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  Speaker 5: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes won our NBA Playoff preview green jacket draft.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll discuss another monstrous story here in town,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: as the face of the franchise makes his return to
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  Speaker 1: the lineup tonight. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Well, yes,
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  Speaker 1: biggest sporting event in the world going on right now
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: with the World Cup. Seems like it was a stirring
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: success yesterday our first match that we hosted between Belgium
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and Egypt. But another big deal going on tonight down
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: there in that same general area, as the return of
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the face of the franchise is going to happen. Cal
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Raleigh is back from Tacoma, back from the injury list,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: and we'll be in the lineup for tonight's game against
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the Baltimore Orioles. So thrilling news on that front, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: from a lot of different levels. Number one, actually, I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: mean right now in the analytics era, I mean there
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: are people running organizations. Ours was one of them. I
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: think they've turned over a new leaf. But they didn't.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: They didn't think that chemistry and clubhouse morale, those they're
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: things that mattered because you couldn't put a number on them.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Those were things that well, why is everybody so upset
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: we traded that guy? Why is seeger angry with me?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: You know, they just it didn't It didn't really register
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: with a lot. You know, we weren't run We're not
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: really run by former players anymore. We're kind of run
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: by nerds uh in the sport. Now we've got a
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: few more that have trickled back in to the sport
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that we're players like Jerry Depoto that are running leagues.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And so I think that you have seen a little
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: bit of a changeover in philosophy of Yes, clubhouse does matter, Yes,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: team chemistry does matter. They are things we might not
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: be able to put a numerical value on them, but
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: we know it when we see it, and we know
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: that it is helpful to us winning baseball games. So
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I gotta believe that if you're a team that has
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: played some of its worst baseball in the last five days,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: five games, and you come home and you get a
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: good night's rest, couple good night's rests in your own bed,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and got to see your family and kiss your kids
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and all that sort of thing, go eat at Von's
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  Speaker 1: hum and you show up to the ballpark today, there's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: probably a little extra jump in your step knowing that
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: who you're gonna get to see tonight. And when cal
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Raley and JP Crawford both enter that dugout, enter that clubhouse,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: both of them knowing they're going to be in the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: lineup tonight, it's gotta lift them, right.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: It has to lift them, I would think so, because
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: if nothing else, you know that Cal and JP are
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: pumped to be back, right, so they're going to have
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: an energy. And again, this city is buzzing right now,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: so those guys have to be picking up on that
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: as well. I mean, three of the guys were at
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the World Cup game yesterday. They felt the energy there.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: So I think just being back home getting to enjoy
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: You've got nice weather, you've got the comforts of your
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: own home, You've got all of these things, and then
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: two of your best friends walk in there. I just
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: think all of it aligns to.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Should be a high energy game from the Mariners, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that has been really low energy. I mean it is
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: then five games collectively that has been some of the
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: worst energy we've seen on a baseball field this year
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and maybe in a couple of years from this team.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So it would be nice to see that infusion of
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: high energy. And I can't even imagine a world where
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it doesn't impact the team that they don't play sharper
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: starting tonight, but we shall see. Now let's talk about
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the tangible effect of having Cal Raley back in uniform.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I know that the pitchers like Mitch Garver, and it
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: really seemed to me that they really like Johnny Pareda,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: with the exception of Nana Hancock chewing them out on
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the bump the other day. But there's a difference between
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'm a good receiver, I'm a likable guy, and then
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: getting back the person that knows you inside and out,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: knows when you uh, when you're not throwing the way
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that you should be throwing, knows what to say to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: adjust you, knows knows you better than your own father,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: knows you as a pitcher, and so from just from
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: if you don't believe in team chemistry, if you don't
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: believe in in clubhouse chemistry, that sort of thing, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you don't think it's going to register that Cal and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: JP are both rejoining the team tonight, especially Cal since
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: they haven't had him for a while. There is a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: tangible effect, certainly to Cal Raley, the pitcher's best friend
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: on the baseball field returning to call their games. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I would, I would assume so. And it is interesting.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I was looking the other day because you know, we've
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: talked about how well Brian Wu hasn't had he hasn't been.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: As solid as we're used to.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: He's had some rough outings, and I was curious if
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: that coincided with when Cal went out, and it Cal
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: went out. I think his last game was the thirteenth,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: and wu his first game struggling really was May twenty fourth,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: So not not entirely, but I bet when you're struggling
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: and you are having those moments, you want somebody that, yeah,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: knows how to kick your button gear. Yeah, And I
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: don't think I don't think Mitch would be afraid to
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: tell some like one of his pitchers like hey man,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: you know, get your bleep together, not in those words exactly.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: But I don't think Johnny Parade is doing it because
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I don't think he has that relationship with them yet.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Well, and I don't think either one of them have
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the relationship Cal no exactly. Yeah. And so I mean
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: he is the leader of the pitching so he's a catcher,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: but he's the leader of the pitching staff. Yeah, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: so it's going to be great to see him back,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and I think it will have a tangible effect. Now
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the other thing, and this is the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: big giant elephant in the room, and that is Cal
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: was not good at the plate this year he has
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: not been. And yet he goes to Tacoma after rehabbing
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: from his injury and does nothing but hit home runs.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I mean he hit five home runs in what five games,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: four games down in Tacoma, I think three games, and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: so well, yeah, and then the almost home run in
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Everett as well, and so he is he looks like
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Cal from a year ago. And you might say, well,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: he's facing inferior pitching. Well, yeah, there is an element
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: to that. But I had said a couple of weeks ago,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: maybe a week ago, that maybe the injury could be
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a blessing in disguise from the standpoint of Cal kind
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of can recalibrate that swing. He's got to take time
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: completely off with an oblique you got to take time
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: away from the sport. You can't be swinging, you can't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: aggravate it. And so when he picked up a bat again,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: it gave him, I think, an opportunity to kind of
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: restart his process all over again. And let's face it,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: his spring training got disrupted by WBC, and then he
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: didn't get much playing time at WBC, and so he
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: didn't start off where he wanted to start off. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: so this almost gave him an opportunity to recalibrate that swing,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to kind of start it all over again. And he
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: didn't have Kevin Sitzer there with him in most cases.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it seems like it's had an effect. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: we can say that because he's dominated some minor league pitching.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: But if you saw this, maybe you didn't. Harold Reynolds
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: last night on MLB Network was pointing out the same
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: things that I've been pointing out all season long, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: we've had to do this without Bucky. Bucky would have
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: been doing this job and I had to be forced
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: into doing it. But he was slow. His bat was slow.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: He wasn't getting a swing started on time. And if
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you can't hit a fastball at the major league level,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you just can't hit at the major league level. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: so Harold did a breakdown last night of just the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: difference between where Cal was last year hitting sixty home
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: runs and how much quicker he was getting started, and
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it was with his entire body. It was lifting his
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: foot getting that started, where he was being caught flat
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: footed this season as a Mariner and then since he's
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: become a Tacoma Rainier. The video proves that he's getting started.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: The footwork is getting started, to get the hands started
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: quicker and lo and behold. Pretty much every pitch he's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: seeing in the strike zone he's knocking out of the park.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And I know it's inferior pitching, but it's not that inferior.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: They're still throwing ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven down
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: at the Triple A level. They still have good, nasty
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: stuff down there. It's not the best, it's not elite,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: it's not every night, it's not every pitcher like you
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: get at the major league level. But he's not exactly
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: going down there to a high school team and hitting
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: off a tee right exactly. He has worked on something,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: he's starting quicker, and he's getting the results. So I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: personally think he's just going to hit the ground running.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I think he's locked in. I think he's in a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: good place, and I don't think it's going to take
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: him a couple of it bats to get it going.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to see him at a home
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: run tonight. Yeah, and I would hope.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, can you imagine how that place would
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: go nuts if he steps up in his first at
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: bat and hits it out.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Of the park. Well, not asking for that guy, I am, Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: But I think people should be very excited about his return.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: And I understand the slow start, but that's last year
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: was not the anomaly of you know, this slow start
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: that he had this year was the anomaly.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just looked off. He was just the bat
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: was slow. It wasn't getting through the zone fast enough,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and teams were taking advantage of it high in the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: strike zone and he could not catch up and it
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: was ruining every at bat that he had practically, But
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it looks like his timing is back on and maybe
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he really did need to recalibrate the entire swing. He
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: seems to be saying that as he gets ready to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: return for tonight against the Orioles. All right, coming up next, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the World Cup. Are you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: excited about Friday? Are you getting fired up for the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: day that will be US versus Australia.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm excited, and especially because it's happening here. I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: mean I was excited for last Friday's match, but it
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: feels different that it's on our own turf.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's gonna be Mayhem. I preparing for
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Mayhem and those Aussies boy, they know how to party
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: too well, and good for them.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: They were up in what BC I think before this
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: and so Yeah, nice easy commute down here. Yeah, they
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: can just ask all the Blue Jays fans how to
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: get here, very easy. And yeah, I think it'll be
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun. And again we're gonna have nice
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: weather all week. We've got the Mariners playing the Red
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Sox after. I mean, people can double dip. And you
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: think about I mean, I wonder how many people here
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: for the World Cup are going to take in a
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Mariner's game, because I maybe they've never done that before.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I would imagine attendance will be strong on both counts.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And if I mean, Australians love themselves some baseball too.
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  Speaker 1: Plus you know Ryan Roland Smith's their hero.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, be in the same building with Hyphen.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they might just go over there where they're Roland
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Smith jerseys and just watch him broadcast that their binoculars.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That might be hey, end of the game. I don't know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I saw, I saw Hyphen he moved.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's laughing, guys, he's laughing.
• 31:47
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• 31:52
  Speaker 1: up a veggie Moore Sich was.
• 31:54
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  Speaker 3: Throw another shrimp on the Bobby.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Hey, where's the vigimoite stend? You know that sort of thing?
• 32:04
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• 32:06
  Speaker 3: There's probably an Aussie group text where like everyone in
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  Speaker 3: Australia just has his number. Yeah, if they're in the area,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: they can ask him a question.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, wharf and how come the turlets spin the wrong way?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Really liking your Australian accent, that's really botched. I haven't
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: practiced it in a long time. It's really I have
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to start with crocodile dundee that's not anife before I
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• 32:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I have.
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  Speaker 3: To start with.
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• 32:39
  Speaker 1: toaster biscuits. No, I don't, well, I have no idea
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: what you're like English muffin, but they're Australian toasted. Its
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  Speaker 1: had different commercials here growing up than what I did
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  Speaker 1: growing up.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I wonder if there's still a thing now. I'm curious,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that was that. It's the thing I always
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: think of whenever I think of an Australian accent. Most
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: people would think of Crocodile Dundee.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: We'll just say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, I
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: got to see my Kiwi's play yesterday. I lived in
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: New Zealand for a little bit of a spell. They
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: played to a tie, one of the four ties that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: took place yesterday. But Kiwi's and Aussie's have a very
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: interesting relationship. It is very much like like they will
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: talk trash about the other ones through my experience, Yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and the only difference is when Aussie's are around Kiwi's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: they'll continue to talk trash about them, where Kiwis tend
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to Yeah, they tend to stop. So there's certainly like
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: a big brother little brother thing that that operates there. Now,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: somebody from New Zealand might not like hearing that, may
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: disagree with that, but that was my experience.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, so, especially just because the idea
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: it's like, no, we're only going to talk trash in
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  Speaker 3: front of your face, and the other one's like, no,
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  Speaker 3: we'll just keep doing it all.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they will, they will. There's certainly that relationship
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: there all.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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