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Hunter DEFIES Congress & House Votes to Open Impeachment Inquiry on Joe Biden · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is verdict to a Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 2: with you, Senator, we have got a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Two major stories, the House formalizing the impeachment inquiry into
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden, and for everyone listening, we are going to
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  Speaker 2: go deep into the legal aspect of this and what
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  Speaker 2: is the cause for this instead of the weaponization of
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  Speaker 2: impeachment which is what the Democrats did to Donald J.
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  Speaker 1: Trump.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get to that, Senator, I also want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about Hunter Biden and Hunter Biden's refusal to
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  Speaker 2: show for this deposition. He had this press conference on
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  Speaker 2: Capitol Hill but said I'm only willing to go public.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not willing to go behind closed doors. That is
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  Speaker 2: dictating to Congress what you will and won't do. Usually
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  Speaker 2: doesn't end well unless you know the deck is stacked
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  Speaker 2: on your half, on your side with a DOJ that
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  Speaker 2: refuses to prosecute. Is that part of how this is
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  Speaker 2: going to play out for him?
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me say, first of all, we now know
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  Speaker 3: the answer to what we talked about in the last podcast,
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  Speaker 3: which is whether or not Hunter Biden was going to
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  Speaker 3: defy the congressional subpoena and the answer is yes, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give credit where credits due. I thought the
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  Speaker 3: odds were about fifty to fifty. I could see him
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  Speaker 3: going either way, and you were one hundred percent on
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  Speaker 3: the other side. And so, Benjamin, you were right. I
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  Speaker 3: was at best fifty percent right.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna frame. I'm going to frame this transcript
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  Speaker 2: and put it in my office.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: This is the first time in history of verdict I've
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  Speaker 2: gotten these accolades.
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  Speaker 3: Cut it off right now. I'm telling you, I'm manning up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm admitting it. You didn't even have to rub
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  Speaker 3: my nose in it. I came forth right on the
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  Speaker 3: front end. Look, he refused to comply with a subpoena.
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  Speaker 3: There are a number of things that will flow from that.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that will flow from that is
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  Speaker 3: the House I believe will hold Hunter Biden in contempt.
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  Speaker 3: That's significant, being held in contempt of Congress. That you
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  Speaker 3: can be jailed for being in contempt of Congress. And
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  Speaker 3: and but for that to happen, the Department of Justice
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  Speaker 3: has to prosecute you. And I got to say, one
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  Speaker 3: of the reasons why I think Hunter Biden is perfectly
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  Speaker 3: content to defy a congressional subpoena is he does not
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  Speaker 3: believe Daddy's Department of Justice will prosecute him, and so
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  Speaker 3: I think he and his lawyers feel like they can
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  Speaker 3: just ignore the subpoena. But when the contempt vote happens,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the votes will be there to hold
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  Speaker 3: him in contempt, that will be the next stage in
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  Speaker 3: the escalation. Now we talked about previously on verdict. Why
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  Speaker 3: often when you have someone come in for testimony, you
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  Speaker 3: proceed it with a closed door deposition where you get
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  Speaker 3: into more detail, you go back and forth, you prepare
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  Speaker 3: for the open hearing. And that's what the House Republicans did. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I will say At Hunter Biden's press conference, he said, quote,
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  Speaker 3: Republicans do not want an open process where Americans can
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  Speaker 3: see their tactics, expose their baseless inquiry, or hear what
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  Speaker 3: I have to say. What are they afraid of? I'm here,
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  Speaker 3: I'm ready. So I got to tell you, Ben, I
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  Speaker 3: would advice to Jim Jordan and James Comer take him
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  Speaker 3: up on his offer, hold him in contempt, fine, but
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  Speaker 3: also bring him to an open hearing. He has said
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  Speaker 3: he would testify in an open hearing. Yes, there are
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  Speaker 3: strategic advantages to doing a closed door deposition first, but
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  Speaker 3: get him under oath and in front of the American people.
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  Speaker 3: If the outcome of this is he defies the subpoena,
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  Speaker 3: he's held in contempt and nothing, nothing, nothing happens, that
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  Speaker 3: is a bad outcome. That is not an outcome that
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  Speaker 3: furthers justice. That is not an outcome that furthers holding
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  Speaker 3: Joe Biden accountable for his misconduct. And so I think
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  Speaker 3: the best Yes, they're irritated that he's defying their request,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they ought to hold him in contempt,
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  Speaker 3: but they also ought to schedule that open hearing for
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  Speaker 3: the first week the House is back in January and
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  Speaker 3: put him under oath on record on national TV and
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  Speaker 3: walk him through the evidence.
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  Speaker 2: If they do that, does that mean that you lose
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  Speaker 2: the chance for the closed door deposition? And is that
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  Speaker 2: also and I'm playing devil's advocate here, does that imply
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  Speaker 2: that you're basically conceding to the demands of Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 2: on the entire US Congress.
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  Speaker 3: Yes and yes, and so what look losing the closed
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  Speaker 3: door deposition? There are some advantages to having that, sure,
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  Speaker 3: but you can litigate about it. For a year and
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  Speaker 3: get nothing. Or on your second point, they could be piqued,
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  Speaker 3: they could be annoyed. Well, gosh, no witness is going
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  Speaker 3: to dictate what we do because we're tough. Well, so
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  Speaker 3: what Look, there's a job to be done. And the
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  Speaker 3: good thing is you and I both know Jim Jordan
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  Speaker 3: and James Comer these are serious men focused on a
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  Speaker 3: serious task. And so I think the appropriate reaction is
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  Speaker 3: not to have your feelings hurt, and not even to
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  Speaker 3: be annoyed, although you are perfectly justified in being annoyed
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  Speaker 3: that a witness is effectively dictating the method in which
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  Speaker 3: he will testify. That is annoying, and in the vast
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  Speaker 3: majority of situations it's utterly unacceptable. In this case, there
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  Speaker 3: is a overriding interest of justice of putting the evidence
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  Speaker 3: before the American people. And remember this is something that
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  Speaker 3: you and I have said a lot on verdict. This
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  Speaker 3: is not about Hunter Biden. This is about Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: Great point.
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  Speaker 3: If the result of this is they spend the next
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  Speaker 3: year fighting over the contempt finding, that is a complete
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  Speaker 3: waste of time. We need the evidence in front of
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  Speaker 3: the American people that Joe Biden was corrupt, and in
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  Speaker 3: this Hunter Biden is an accomplice and he's a witness,
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  Speaker 3: but he's not the actual target. The only reason anyone
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  Speaker 3: cares about Hunter Biden is because he was integally involved
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  Speaker 3: in the alleged corruption and bribery of his father, who
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  Speaker 3: was vice president of the United States and is now
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  Speaker 3: the President of the United States. That's why they should say, fine,
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  Speaker 3: we'll have you first week of January in front of
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  Speaker 3: the full hearing on TV and will walk you systematic
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  Speaker 3: through the questions and might they get some surprises.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Part of the reason you do a closed door deposition
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  Speaker 3: is so you don't get surprised. You get an answer
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  Speaker 3: in the deposition, and then when you do the hearing,
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  Speaker 3: if they say something different, you can confront them with, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's not what you said at our deposition. I get
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  Speaker 3: that that that that is strategically better. But my point
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  Speaker 3: is having Hunter testify under oath now versus not having
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  Speaker 3: him testify for the next year. It ain't even close,
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  Speaker 3: which is better for the pursuit of justice.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So let's say that what you're you're mentioning
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  Speaker 2: here happens. I want I want us both to go
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  Speaker 2: on the record. Would Hunter Biden show up for that
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  Speaker 2: public here and now I claims he would, right, but
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  Speaker 2: he was saying that because he wasn't going to show
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  Speaker 2: up for that, that was his way of getting out
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  Speaker 2: of the closed door. So let's say that that Jim
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  Speaker 2: Jordan and James Comer, they do this to speak of
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  Speaker 2: the House says, let's this our new strategy, Johnson, let's
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  Speaker 2: go with it. Do you believe that Hunter Biden would
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  Speaker 2: actually show for that open hearing?
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  Speaker 1: So again, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think there is a significant chance he wouldn't show
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  Speaker 3: for the open hearing. But if you forced me to
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  Speaker 3: put odds to it, I'd probably say sixty forty he shows.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a forty percent chance he backs out
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  Speaker 3: and said, oh I was just kidding. I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to testify there either. But I think there's a sixty
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  Speaker 3: percent chance that he follows through. He is at this
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  Speaker 3: point defiantly said he's ready to go, and he's made
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  Speaker 3: that offer, and I think Ego and Vanity may compel
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  Speaker 3: him to go and testify in the open if that's
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  Speaker 3: what happens, what do you think? Where are your on?
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a zero percent chance he'd show up
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  Speaker 2: for the second one, because if he knows he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to show up for either, and they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to hold him in content because and you would know
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  Speaker 2: this legally, I don't. I'm asking you sincerely, if he
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  Speaker 2: didn't show up for the public hearing, what's the recourse there?
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  Speaker 1: Would it go to the j.
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  Speaker 3: They hold him in contempt and DJ again would would
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  Speaker 3: sit on their hands and do nothing.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're gonna if you're gonna be held in
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  Speaker 2: contempt the first time, why not double up on it
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  Speaker 2: and say nothing at all.
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  Speaker 3: Look, you're actually going very good legal advice for someone
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  Speaker 3: without a JD. There's a lot of force to what
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  Speaker 3: you say. Look, the reason I think it is slightly
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  Speaker 3: more likely than not that he shows up is is ego.
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  Speaker 3: It is entirely who he is. And they've been so
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  Speaker 3: braggadocious saying that he would do it that I think
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  Speaker 3: he would find it personally hard to back out of.
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  Speaker 3: But there's no doubt the risk averse the CYA approach
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  Speaker 3: is don't show up to either. By the way, that
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't be the risk averse approach. If we actually had
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  Speaker 3: a functioning Department of Justice that would go and prosecute
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  Speaker 3: you for contempt to Congress, then the risk calculus would change.
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  Speaker 3: But remember Congress held Eric Holder, then the Attorney General
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  Speaker 3: of the United States, in contempt, and DJ did nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Now Eric Holder was in charge of DJ, but they
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  Speaker 3: did nothing. And I don't expect the Biden DOJ to
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  Speaker 3: do any different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I prosecuted and convicted for contempt to Congress. Biden's
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  Speaker 2: punishment could keyword could, if you're looking at the book,
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  Speaker 2: be up to one hundred thousand dollars fine and imprisonment.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to just just let me stew in
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  Speaker 2: this for a second, because I think everyone listening right
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  Speaker 2: now probably feels this way. It is so frustrating to
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  Speaker 2: live in a country where there's such a blatant double
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  Speaker 2: standard in how the laws applied. You look at Peter
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  Speaker 2: Navarro and Steve Bannon. They were indicted on contempt charges
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  Speaker 2: for not complying with you with what many referred to
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  Speaker 2: as the illegitimate January sixth Committee. There was no basis
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  Speaker 2: to comply with the Democrats fake committee, right, that had
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  Speaker 2: fake Republicans on there, and it was done not the
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  Speaker 2: way that it's normally done historically. And yet those two
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  Speaker 2: men no problem being arrested and tried to ruin their lives.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard, I think for so many people listening right
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  Speaker 2: now to sit here and to be okay with this
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  Speaker 2: and to see the DOJ weaponized in this way. It
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  Speaker 2: was Matthew Graves who was the DC attorney who prosecuted
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  Speaker 2: Navara and Bannon.
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  Speaker 1: Let me remind everybody.
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  Speaker 2: He worked on the presidential campaigns for Joe Biden as
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  Speaker 2: well as other Democrats. And this is a process now
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  Speaker 2: where I think Americans are so frustrated. So do you
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  Speaker 2: agree that it's that we are all not crazy to
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  Speaker 2: be so irritated and frustrated at these two standards of
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  Speaker 2: justice that we're watching play out in real time.
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  Speaker 3: So I agree that everyone but Ben is not crazy. Look,
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  Speaker 3: it is absolutely a double standard. And if you don't
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  Speaker 3: believe me that it's a double standard, believe Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to this clip. In October of twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 3: when asked this exact question, here's what Biden had to say,
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  Speaker 3: talk to.
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  Speaker 5: You so much today, You're not going to talk to anymore.
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  Speaker 4: By Congressional Subdinas on the January sixth committee, I.
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  Speaker 6: Hope that the committee goes after them hold.
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  Speaker 1: Him accountable, any prosecuting I do, yes, I do yes.
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  Speaker 1: That was the response from Again.
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  Speaker 2: You could hear in the background Marine one's spooling up
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  Speaker 2: there and he's saying, yes, you should be held accountable, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: You hear the president there.
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  Speaker 2: He made it clear, you defy these subpoenas, you deserve
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  Speaker 2: to be prosecuted, you deserve to be thrown in jail.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said as President getting on Marine one.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right, and it's a double standard. If
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  Speaker 3: they're going after someone in the Trump White House, then
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  Speaker 3: absolutely they want to hold them in contempt, they want
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  Speaker 3: to prosecute them, they want doj to go after them,
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  Speaker 3: and they're happy to do that. If it's Hunter's son
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  Speaker 3: who's covering up evidence of criminality from daddy, who happens
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  Speaker 3: to be the President of the United States, then the
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  Speaker 3: Biden Department of Justice they act like they're in army
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  Speaker 3: of the DNC that they do not behave like they
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  Speaker 3: have any obligation to the rule of law. Merrick Garland
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  Speaker 3: should be impeached and removed from office. He's been a
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  Speaker 3: disgrace as Attorney General. And part of why they do
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  Speaker 3: this is they know the Department of Justice is weaponized
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  Speaker 3: and politicized, and they also know that the media is
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  Speaker 3: thoroughly dishonest. So, for example, Hunter, when he was explaining
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  Speaker 3: that he would not not go to the closed door deposition,
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  Speaker 3: he said his father was not financially involved in his business,
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  Speaker 3: and financially Suddenly that word came in. Now, remember Joe
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  Speaker 3: Biden used to say he'd never talked with his son
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  Speaker 3: about his business, he never talked to his business associates.
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  Speaker 3: All of those proved wrong. Then the Biden White House
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  Speaker 3: said he was not involved, he was not in business
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  Speaker 3: with and now Hunter says his father is not quote
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  Speaker 3: financially involved in his business. They keep moving the standard.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, really, let's play.
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  Speaker 2: Let's play Joe Biden saying this because if you remember,
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  Speaker 2: you go back to the first clip I want to play.
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  Speaker 2: People is from des Moines, Iowa, September twenty one, twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: He was angry when he was answering Peter Deucy's question.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen, how many.
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  Speaker 4: Times have you ever spoken to your son about his
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  Speaker 4: overseas business dealings.
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  Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseas med servians.
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  Speaker 6: I have never discussed with my son, or my brother
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  Speaker 6: or anyone else in being him to do with their
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  Speaker 6: business period. And what I will do is the same
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  Speaker 6: thing we did in our administration. Don't be an absolute.
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  Speaker 1: Wall between personal and private.
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  Speaker 6: In the government.
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  Speaker 4: Do you stand by your statement that you did not
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  Speaker 4: discuss any of your son's overseas business large, Dan barlast, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean he lied to all of us, Enator, he did,
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  Speaker 3: and compare that to what Hunter said this week, it
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  Speaker 3: could compare compare that to the latest statement.
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  Speaker 1: Play that clip.
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  Speaker 5: Let me state as clearly as I can, my father
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  Speaker 5: was not financially involved in my business, not as a
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  Speaker 5: practicing lawyer, not as a board member of Parisma, not
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  Speaker 5: in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman, not in
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  Speaker 5: my investments at home or abroad, and certainly not as
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  Speaker 5: an artist. Story in my battle with addictions, my parents
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  Speaker 5: were there for me. They literally saved my life.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Senator you and I predicted this was
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  Speaker 2: going to be the alibi all along. Oh yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: an addict, and he and he went into it perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: He paused, he took a deep breath, and then he
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  Speaker 2: and then he lays it on real thick. I was
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  Speaker 2: an addict, and my parents were there for me and
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  Speaker 2: then listened the last part.
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  Speaker 1: They helped me in ways that I will never be
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  Speaker 1: able to repay. Of course, they would never.
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  Speaker 6: Expect me to.
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  Speaker 5: And in the depths of my addiction, I was extremely
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  Speaker 5: irresponsible with my finances. But to suggest that his grounds
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  Speaker 5: for an impiacement in Query is beyond the absurd.
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  Speaker 1: It's shameless.
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  Speaker 5: There's no evidence to support the allegations that my father
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  Speaker 5: was financially involved in my business because it did not happen.
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  Speaker 2: So it's pretty clear that both of them are lying
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  Speaker 2: to the American people.
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  Speaker 3: Well, but there's an important context. So that's a categorical
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  Speaker 3: denial that Joe Biden was financially involved in his businesses.
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  Speaker 3: But you know it's different.
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  Speaker 1: It's not under oath.
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  Speaker 3: It's not sorn testimony, which means he can lie to
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  Speaker 3: the reporters, and it's not a felony. If he had
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  Speaker 3: said the same thing, either in a closed door deposition
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  Speaker 3: under oath or in testimony in the house under oath,
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  Speaker 3: and if he'd lied, and you could prove he lied,
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  Speaker 3: that would be a felony. That would be the equivalent
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  Speaker 3: of perjury, and it would be it would be it
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  Speaker 3: would come with jail time attached to it. And so
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  Speaker 3: that's part of why Hunter doesn't want to be under oath,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: so he can lie without consequences. But he also knows
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: that his lies will be amplified by democratic hacks in
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Congress and by the corrupt corporate media. So I want
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: to I want to tell you what the New York
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Times did. So Hunter's opening sentence there, let me read
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: it to you again. Let me state as clearly as
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I can, my father was not financially involved in my business.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Now here's how the New York Times reported his quote.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Let me state it as clearly as I can. My
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: father was not involved in my business. The word financially
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the New York Times miraculously deleted. They are covering up
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: for it. They're not journalists, they're liars. And it's not
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: an accident. That wasn't a typo removing the word financially.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Look you read financially, you're like, oh, okay, I get
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: the joke, like like it's it's a bad dodge. And
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: so The New York Times said, well, here's what he's
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: an the way, We'll just delete it and have him
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: say my father was not involved in my business, which was,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: of course the old lie Joe Biden told in Des Moine,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: but that lie is no longer operative.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: One other question on this before we move over to
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the impeachment inquiry. If Hunter Biden into your Hunter Biden's
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: attorneys right now, what is your advice to him. The
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: White House, we hear is getting very nervous. We see
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: this from reporting, This come out from Access. It's not conservative.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: They've come out saying now the White House and people
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: within the White House are very upset with this. They're
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: very upset with the press conference he did. They think
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: the press conference made things a lot worse. As White
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: House insiders apparently said that those inside the White House
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: are saying that he is ruining things for his dad's
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: re election bid. It's an unwelcome distraction, is another apparently
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: person said it inside the White House.
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  Speaker 1: Tax him, and you look at the polls, and polls matter.
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• 19:05
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• 19:07
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  Speaker 2: You add that to what we've just witnessed over the
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  Speaker 2: White House. As one Democratic strategist who worked on Clinton's
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen campaign said, quote, I have a pit in
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: my stomach about it. The email controversy was silly, but
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: it was made to be a distraction and it worked.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And now he says the Hunter story has the legs
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to ruin things for the Bidens.
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  Speaker 1: The Democratic strategists added, quote unquote.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Look, I think there are a lot of democrats. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: think there are a lot of people in the press
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: that are getting very nervous about Joe Biden. The mounting evidence.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You know, when you have twenty shell corporations, when you
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: have hundreds of thousands of dollars and millions of dollars
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: going back and forth and coming from communist China and
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: coming from Ukraine and coming from Russia, and coming from
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: corrupt oligarchs, when you have transfers, when you have check
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: after check after check going directly to Joe Biden, when
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: you have Joe Biden on tape getting caught lying about
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: it over and over and over again. Of course the
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Democrats are nervous. Anyone paying attention recognizes there is very
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: significant evidence of corruption. And the simple question to ask
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: even the most rabid partisan democrat is what services did
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Hunter Biden have to sell? What would anyone pay him
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: millions of dollars for? He has no discernible skills. So
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: generally speaking, foreign oligarchs are not in the habit of
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: paying millions of dollars just to random crackheads. What is
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: it that he was selling, and there's only one possible answer,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and that is favors from Daddy. That's what the democrats
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: and the corporate media do not want you to focus on.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Is what was given. Let's go back to the heart
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: of impeachment, quid pro quo, what was given in exchange
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: for those millions of dollars? And if you ask that,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the only answer that anyone has proffered is at the
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: milder level, access to Daddy and at the full criminal level,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: favors from Daddy. But that's really where that where the
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: debate is now. Of course, democrats of the media ignore
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: all of that and just say, no, there's no evidence
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: at all. There's no direct evidence, is what they say.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Of course, we did an entire podcast on how the
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: no direct evidence lie is a lie. You can go
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: back and listen to that podcast if you want. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: of course democrats are nervous.
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  Speaker 2: and so let's look at this completely separately for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: The House formalizing the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden. There
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: has been a lot of media protection on this story,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and I think it's important that we remind people why
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  Speaker 2: this impeachment matters, why it's not a witch hunt, how
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: it's different from what the Democrats did against Donald J.
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  Speaker 1: Trump when they knew.
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  Speaker 2: For example, the Stell dossier was created by the DNC
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  Speaker 2: and Hillary Clinton paid for by them. The FBI categorized
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the still Dousier as user generated, meaning it was crap.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: They even offered a million I think it was a
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: million dollars to Christopher Steel to authenticate anything in the dousier.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't do it, and yet they still used it and
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: weaponized it. To try to overthrow the will of the people.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And so I want people to understand that impeachment is important.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be used a political weapon, and Republicans are
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: not using it as a political weapon. So let's go
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: back and remind people why the House is formalizing this
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: impeachment inquiry.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Well, the reason the House says opened the impeachment inquiry
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: is because there is serious evidence of corruption. There is
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: serious evidence of bribery on behalf of the President of
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the United States, and it's from multiple directions. But you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Jim Jordan sent out a very simple tweet that I
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: think is powerful. What Jim Jordan said was quote four
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: facts that will never change. One Hunter Biden sat on
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Barisma's board, absolutely true. Two he was unqualified to do so,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: absolutely true. Three Barisma pressured him to get DC to
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: act on policy issues in Ukraine. And four Joe Biden
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: did just that. Now, of those four facts, the only
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: one the Democrats argue against even slightly is number three.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: And they have some disputes. They say, well, well, no,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Barisma didn't really want the prosecutor fired who was investigating
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the corrupt oligarch who owns Barisma, because he was a
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: bad prosecutor, so they didn't really want him fired. Now,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I got to say, that is an incredibly weak argument,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and it is contrary to the evidence the House is compiled.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: But that's the whole of their argument. And so remember
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: when they say no direct evidence. We talked a minute
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: ago about what is bribery. Bribery is quid pro quote
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: this for that. That's the Latin phrase that was for
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden to get the prosecutor fired in Ukraine. And
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: we know that Joe Biden did that. We know that
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the quot happen because Joe Biden has confessed on video
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: that he flew to Ukraine that he held over a
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: billion dollars in US taxpayer funds that are guaranteeing loans
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: to Ukraine. He held them hostage and said you will
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: not get that money unless you fire the prosecutor. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: then his response, we've talked about at length, was son
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: of a bitch. They fired the prosecutor. So the quo
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: is admitted, it is stipulated. Joe Biden has confessed on
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: video to it. The only question is the quid, which
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: is was he paid or and by the way, paying
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: his family for that that official act is also bribery.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter whether the money went directly to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden's bank account or whether it simply went to
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Hunter Biden's bank account. We know that he was making
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: eighty three thousand dollars a month. Hunter was to sit
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: on a board. Now, mind you, I don't know of
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: another board anywhere on Earth that pays eighty three grand
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: a month to board members.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: That is bizarre. Just on the face of it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: It's a lot more than Exxon Mobile pays their board members.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: It's a lot more than any board I've ever heard
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: of pays their board members. And remember, Hunter Biden had
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: zero experience in oil and gas. He didn't speak Ukrainian.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure he could find Ukraine on a map.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: What he did have was Daddy's cell phone. What he
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: did have was Daddy's fake email addresses. What he did
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: have was Daddy's burner phones. What he did have was
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: access to Daddy. And I got to say it was
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: a good investment. If you're a corrupt olagark and you
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: hire Skippy boy here and Daddy uses the full force
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of the US government to get the prosecutor fired, who's
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: coming after you. That is a great investment. So that
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: is number one right at the heart of the impeachment inquiry.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: But number two, we have the WhatsApp where Hunter is
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: shaking down a Chinese communist and saying, I'm sitting here
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: next to my father, and he's threatening retaliation from Daddy,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: not from Hunter, from Daddy, from Joe Biden if they
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: didn't pay him millions of dollars. And we know that
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: they paid him millions of dollars. So that again, look,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: bribery can be on either front. It can be either
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: for getting a benefit, but it can also be bribery.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Pay me money, give me a benefit, or else I
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: will do this bad thing through government to you. That's
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: also bribery. You know, if if a prosecutor for US
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: attorney says give me a million dollars or else I
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: will indict you, and you give him a million dollars
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: and he doesn't indict you, that's bribery. In this case,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: the retaliation that Hunter was threatening from Daddy, it would
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: absolutely constitute bribery on Joe's part. And mind you, the
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: irs whistleblowers say that in the investigation they wanted to
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: get the GPS data It's very simple to ascertain when
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Hunter sent that WhatsApp text, was he in fact sitting
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: next to Joe. You'll have Hunter's GPS data, You'll have
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Joe's GPS data if they're in the same room, if
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: they're sitting next to each other. That goes right to
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the heart of that Joe knew and was in evolved
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: in shaking down these corrupt foreign players. That's why the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: house has now opened to the impeachment inquiry.
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  Speaker 2: to get your reaction to something that was said on MSNBC.
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  Speaker 2: They're claiming now that Biden's impeachment inquiry is quote Trump's retribution.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 7: The fact that there is no there there probably doesn't
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  Speaker 7: bother the likes of Jim Jordan. I think Representative McGovern
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  Speaker 7: got it right when he said and Trump asks them
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  Speaker 7: to jump, they say how high, and.
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  Speaker 1: That they're now jumping.
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  Speaker 7: They're now jumping for Trump. This is his retribution and
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: it's a pr a pr very cynical, pr driven attempt
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: to besmirch Biden without any.
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  Speaker 1: Evidence, without any evidence. You just went through that evidence.
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  Speaker 2: But this is what we're up against the media saying
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  Speaker 2: this is just retribution for Trump.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not, this is based on the facts.
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  Speaker 3: Well, MSNBC is not actually a journalistic outlet. They are propagandists.
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  Speaker 3: They are the left wing of the Democrat Party. So
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: they're going to repeat that and ignore the facts altogether.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: They won't cover the facts. Look, if you watch MSNBC,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: you have no idea that Hunter Biden sent a WhatsApp
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: text to a Chinese communist shaking him down for millions
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: of dollars. You don't know that because you know what,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: if they don't report on any evidence, then they can
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: send idiots on camera to say there's no evidence. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: if all you watch is MSNBC, you're you're right, You're
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: there is no evidence because they won't report on any
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: of the evidence. It's purely circular. And that is part
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of why the Democrats their behavior is so bad. The
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  Speaker 3: corrupt corporate media facilitates their blatant dishonesty, because the corporate
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: media has every bit as dishonest as the White House is.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we should end with this. James
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Comer took to the floor of the House. This is
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the man that's been digging into all this. He's been
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a guest on Verdict. There's a two part series. You
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: can go back and listen to it, but I want
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you to hear what he had to say on the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: floor of the House.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Just as a reminder, Kentucky's recognized for three minutes.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Chairman Cole Mister Speaker, I rise today to
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: support House Resolution nine eighteen. Joe Biden has repeatedly lied
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: to the American people about his family's corrupt influence peddling schemes.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: He told the American people he never spoke to his
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: son about his family's business dealings. He claimed there was
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  Speaker 4: an absolute wall between his official government duties as Vice
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  Speaker 4: President and his family. He said his family never made
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: money from China. All of these are blatant lies. Our
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  Speaker 4: investigation has revealed how Joe Biden you of participated in
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: and benefited from his family cashing in on the Biden
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: name around the world Since January, we have learned some
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: of the following. The Bidens created twenty shell companies, most
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: of which were created while Joe Biden's vice president. The
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Bidens and their associates then raked in over twenty four
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: million dollars through these shell companies from China, Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhtan,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: and Romania between twenty fourteen and twenty nineteen. At least
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: ten members of the Biden family have benefited or participated
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: in these schemes. The Bidens layered these payments through their
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: bank accounts to hide the sources of the money. The
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: banks even flagged many of these transactions in more than
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty suspicious activity reports to the Treasury Department.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: One bank investigator was so concerned about Hunter Biden's financial
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: transactions with the Chinese company that he wanted to reevaluate
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: the bank's relationship with him. He noted that his transaction
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: served and I quote no current business purpose end quote.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: That's what I call a shell company. According to Devin Archer,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: a Biden family associate, Joe Biden was the brand of
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: the business. The brand showed up. Joe Biden spoke to
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: his son's associates by speaker phone over twenty times, dined
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: with foreign oligarchs and a Barisma executive, and had coffee
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: with his son's Chinese associate, all when he was Vice president.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Weeks after Joe Biden left the vice presidency, money from
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: this Chinese Communist Party linked entity began to make its
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: way to the bank accounts of several Biden family members.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Based on one Biden associate's interview with the FBI, these
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: payments were sent to the Bidens as a quote thank you.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Ask any Justice Department public corruption investigator about the importance
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: of payments received after one leaves public office. It's a
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: hallmark of corruption. We are now at a pivotal moment
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: in our investigation. We will soon depose and interview several
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: members of the Biden family and their associates about these
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: influenced peddling schemes. But we are facing obstruction from the
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: White House. The White House is seeking to block key
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: testimony from current and former White House staff. It's also
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: withholding thousands of records from Joe Biden's time as Vice president.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: John President Biden must be.
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  Speaker 4: Held accountable for his lives corruption and obstruction. I urge
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  Speaker 1: I yield back, Senator.
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