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"Iran Deal?" (Friday, May 28, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 3: The first thing today on the Talk media Network by
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Speaker 4: came from Sacramento, where K A h I is where
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Speaker 4: you find us there. We mentioned that the city has
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Speaker 4: floated an idea to build this whole entertainment district with
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Speaker 4: taxpayer money and the center of it being a major
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Speaker 4: League ready ballpark. And we just went through this here
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Speaker 4: in Virginia, and Bob writes in from Sacramento. He said,
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Speaker 4: thank you for bringing this up. Please beat this drum
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Speaker 4: some more. I can't imagine this is going to be
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Speaker 4: a successful boondoggle. Well, and some of it, yeah, I
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Speaker 4: guess could have been predictable when the Oakland A's decided
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Speaker 4: to do this. Now, Las Vegas may be the one
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Speaker 4: uniquely financed city to do something like this with a
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Speaker 4: kind of sad to see all that go away because
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Speaker 4: there's more Vegas history going down the tube, but please
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Speaker 4: hold on to your wallet. We blew this up and got,
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Speaker 4: you know, on the wrong side of Governor Glenn Youngkin.
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Speaker 4: He wanted to do this for exactly the same reason
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Speaker 4: he wanted to spend taxpayer money to dig up an
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Speaker 4: entertainment district with an arena for the Washington Capitals and
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Speaker 4: you know, and people said, well, you know, Louise Lucas,
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Speaker 4: the Democrat is on is agree with you on this?
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Speaker 4: I said, doesn't make it wrong. That's the part that
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Speaker 4: always befuddled me. Just because a Democrat and a Republican
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Speaker 4: agreed doesn't make it absolutely wrong. Look at the issue,
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Speaker 4: and sometimes we don't look at issues, We just look
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Speaker 4: at who supports them and designs those things. Anyway, let
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Speaker 4: me get our first things into your ear, so then
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Speaker 4: you can use four three four eight eight two four
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Speaker 4: to two one seven to join in and tell us
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Speaker 4: how stories like this are impacting you where you are.
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Speaker 4: US District Judge Carl Nichols rejected a request by Democrats
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Speaker 4: and civil rights groups to stop President Trump's executive order
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Speaker 4: from taking effect, which would create a federal voter list
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Speaker 4: and limited mail in voting. That group argued that the
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Speaker 4: order was unconstitutional because the states, not Congress and the President,
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Speaker 4: have the power to set election rules within them. Nichols
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Speaker 4: agreed that the administration's contention was that the executive Order
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Speaker 4: hadn't taken effect yet, so therefore, how could somebody have
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Speaker 4: been damaged by it? Stay tuned. US and Iranian negotiators
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Speaker 4: have reached a tentative agreement to extend the ceasefire by
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Speaker 4: sixty more days so that more talks can take place
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Speaker 4: over the future of Iran's nuclear program, how to restrict
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Speaker 4: one of the members of the negotiating team, Thursday confirmed
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Speaker 4: the tentative agreement, but said it's hard to say exactly
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Speaker 4: when or if the president is going to sign it.
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Speaker 4: We are going back and forth on a couple of
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Speaker 4: language points. Russian President Vladimir Putin is planning to ramp
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Speaker 4: than four year long two week war against Ukraine. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 4: couple of things and he hung on with us through
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Speaker 4: the news. Bob, I wanted to ask you. You mentioned
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Speaker 4: the mid terms and you're looking at, you know, this
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Speaker 4: slate now now that we're clear in places like Virginia,
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Speaker 4: and I guess there's still some battles in Mississippi and
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Speaker 4: Alabama regarding the congressional districts. Are we behind the whole
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Speaker 4: there'll be some debates between people. I don't know, but
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Speaker 4: to actually put some ideas behind in front of the voters.
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Speaker 20: Well, Republicans do need to give voters a clear choice
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Speaker 20: between them and Democrats. And Republicans might be five months
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Speaker 20: away from losing full control of government. It wouldn't go
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Speaker 20: into effect for seven months in January, but they could
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Speaker 20: lose it in November. How would Democrats be motivated if
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Speaker 20: they were in a similar situation which they were four
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Speaker 20: years ago, they were at risk of losing full control
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Speaker 20: of government. They ultimately did lose the House, but Democrats
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Speaker 20: went bold, and i'll say courageous from their standpoint for
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Speaker 20: a big policy, to try to enact as much as
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Speaker 20: their agenda as they could. Republicans should be doing the
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Speaker 20: same thing. I don't see that happening right now with
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Speaker 20: the President or with the Congress. In giving voters a
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Speaker 20: clear choice between Republicans and Democrats. I think Republicans have
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Speaker 20: largely squandered the year and a half that they've had
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Speaker 20: full control of government. What do we have to show
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Speaker 20: for other than extending the tax cuts?
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Speaker 4: Well, and I can tell you listener after a listener
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Speaker 4: after a listener have said that, well, what majority? Why
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Speaker 4: bother with the majority? If Hakeem Jeffries can manipulate Congress
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Speaker 4: in the way he has from the minority position, one
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Speaker 4: wonders what kind of things he'll do if he's the
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Speaker 4: Speaker of the House.
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Speaker 20: Well, and with the midterms coming up and the president's
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Speaker 20: influence and impact, whether you're talking about Texas and it's
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Speaker 20: the president going to open up his three hundred million
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Speaker 20: dollars he's got to fund Ken Paxton in Texas. The
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Speaker 20: President seems more concerned about vendettas and revenge and loyalty
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Speaker 20: tests on who Republican nominees are than he is about
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Speaker 20: whether they actually win the midterms or what they will
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Speaker 20: actually do once they're in Congress. Other than he wants
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Speaker 20: to take revenge against people like Thomas Mann or Chip
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Speaker 20: Roy in the primaries. And it doesn't matter the quality
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Speaker 20: of the candidates, or the positions of the candidates, or
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Speaker 20: the philosophy.
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Speaker 1: Or the voting record of the candidate.
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Speaker 20: It just matters whether they are considered more Trump or
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Speaker 20: less Trump versus the other candidates.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, and somebody was asking earlier, He's about,
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Speaker 4: you know, what, is Trump's taking over the Republican Party?
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Speaker 4: But if the voters are responding to President Trump and
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Speaker 4: what he says he wants to do, isn't that I
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Speaker 4: guess the issue is is the party more important than
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Speaker 4: the voters that make up the party. And if the
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Speaker 4: voters that make up the party say we like the
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Speaker 4: guys that President Trump likes, you know, I guess who
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Speaker 4: is to say otherwise isn't that a fair point.
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Speaker 1: Well, certainly it's a fair point.
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Speaker 20: And the president is free like everyone else, to endorse
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Speaker 20: and to support whatever candidate he wants to on whatever
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Speaker 20: basis he wants to do that. However, sixty percent of
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Speaker 20: Republicans being obedient to President Trump and essentially giving their
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Speaker 20: voting card to President Trump and voting for candidates like.
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Speaker 1: Ed Galryan who they don't even know who he is
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Speaker 1: or what he stands for.
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Speaker 20: That does not necessarily translate to victory in a general election.
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Speaker 1: Gotcha, it's not the same thing.
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Speaker 20: And what you hear over and over by those who say, hey,
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Speaker 20: just support the president'sport the president's agenda. And I know
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Speaker 20: you're the one that's supposed to be asking the questions,
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Speaker 20: not answering them. But tell me, what is the Trump agenda?
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Speaker 20: What is this Trump agenda that every member of Congress
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Speaker 20: and every candidate is supposed to pledge loyalty and feelty too?
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Speaker 20: Is it ballrooms? Is it slush funds? Is it archways?
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Speaker 20: Is it taken over Cuba? Which what threat is Cuba
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Speaker 20: to the United States? By the way, what is the
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Speaker 20: Trump agenda?
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Speaker 4: Joe? Well, and I'll start with Iran. Just two weeks ago, Iran, China,
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Speaker 4: and Russia all had emissaries in Cuba meeting there. So
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Speaker 4: we don't know, you know, what that whole organization is about,
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Speaker 4: but in Iran it's state sponsor. It's the ultimate state
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Speaker 4: sponsor of terror and fighting that and trying to break
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Speaker 4: that cornerstone out from an archway that we've been probably
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Speaker 4: should have been fighting since Thomas Jefferson said we probably
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Speaker 4: need to fight a war against this idea. And then
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Speaker 4: you know, back at home, you mentioned ballrooms. I mean
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Speaker 4: the ballroom money that they talk about is actually Secret
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Speaker 4: Service requested to make the ballroom more secure than it
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Speaker 4: would be. And so I mean, there are plenty of
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Speaker 4: things where the rhetoric says, oh, it's about ballrooms, but
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Speaker 4: is it really about the ballroom or is it about
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Speaker 4: you know what, you know, the bunker that had to
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Speaker 4: be renovated underneath the ballroom anyway, and the ballroom that
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump wants is still paid for by private donations.
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Speaker 4: It's the Secret Service upgrades that are the things that
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Speaker 4: are going to tap into taxpayer money. And I'm fine
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Speaker 4: with not putting them in there. I don't think it
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Speaker 4: was going to be built as a secure place to
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Speaker 4: hold the presidential banquets and things like that.
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Speaker 20: Well, the ballroom is like a lot of other things
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Speaker 20: with the so called agenda that's constantly changing and constantly
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Speaker 20: evolving and morphing from what it was originally said. It
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Speaker 20: was originally said it to be two hundred million, then
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Speaker 20: it was four hundred million. It originally said we wouldn't
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Speaker 20: tear down the existing East wing or impact the existing structure,
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Speaker 20: and then we tore it down and put a big
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Speaker 20: hole in the ground before anybody could stop it. And
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Speaker 20: it's went from four hundred million to now close to
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Speaker 20: two billion, six floors underground, apparently doubling the size the
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Speaker 20: footprint of the White House and the private even if
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Speaker 20: it is funded by private donors, which obviously, like you said,
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Speaker 20: the part they're asking for now, the majority of it
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Speaker 20: is not funded by private donors. It's supposedly for security
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Speaker 20: and so forth, But even the private donor part of it,
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Speaker 20: does the executive branch Joe have the authority to expend
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Speaker 20: money for federal purposes for federal buildings without authorization or
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Speaker 20: approval from Congress? And does the executive branch have the
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Speaker 20: ability to do it with funding from private donors who
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Speaker 20: then understandably might expect influence and access and favors from
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Speaker 20: that federal government.
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Speaker 4: Good for America, This is the stuff you get there,
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Speaker 4: Good for America dot Org. Bob, you have a wonderful weekend.
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Speaker 4: Enjoy the better weather this week than we had last week.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe. Great to be with you.
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Speaker 4: Good questions pun intended, right, But you see in there
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Speaker 4: lies the difference if we're a country of people, if
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Speaker 4: it's rule of man versus rule of law, this is
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Speaker 4: what we're always going to come down to. I don't
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Speaker 4: want your guy to get his way. What's his way?
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Speaker 4: What is his way? We know, you know that we
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Speaker 4: watched presidential administrations use their authority over executive branch offices
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Speaker 4: like to go after opponents. Is that the way you want?
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Speaker 4: Because that was an administration's way. Is Donald Trump doing
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Speaker 4: that at the very end, you know, I thought, you know,
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Speaker 4: we had to let Bob go time wise news here,
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Speaker 4: but I mean that should have been the lead. Is Okay,
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Speaker 4: we're taking private donations for the ballroom, What do those
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Speaker 4: private donors expect in return for their contribution to the ballroom?
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Speaker 4: Always is the question when we're doing private donations, to
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Speaker 4: political offices. What do those donors want? That should be
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Speaker 4: the lead question, not whether we should do it or not.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you can have an opinion on that, but
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Speaker 4: remember if somebody built the West Wing onto the Capitol too.
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Speaker 13: I'm doing great and it's a pleasure to be on
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Speaker 4: So sixty day extension of the cease fire, you know,
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Speaker 4: here regarding negotiations on the nuclear and I guess the
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Speaker 22: Yeah, I you know, to give to give the negotiating
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Speaker 13: It's it's kind of my understanding that.
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Speaker 22: The idea of doing this, the sixty day memorandum of
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 22: Obviously, as we've had the ceasefire since April seventh, there's
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Speaker 22: You know, the the IR audience you know, still frequently
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Speaker 22: part of their blockade measures. So there is, uh, there
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Speaker 22: is kind of an opportunity here to kind of trust
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Speaker 22: Iran's highly enriched uranium. And and then I guess they'd
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Speaker 4: Well, and I have just enough knowledge to be Dan
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Speaker 13: Yeah, to be honest, I'm not. I'm also not a
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Speaker 22: I do know that you it's sort of your your
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Speaker 13: You know, chemical structures.
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Speaker 22: Okay, yeah, yeah, So I mean, certainly, certainly we could
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Speaker 4: Who is President of Trump? In his cabinet meeting the
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32:16
Speaker 4: Regime four. You know who's who is in charge? I'm
32:21
Speaker 4: gathering from what I read that it's this Revolutionary Guard Core,
32:26
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Speaker 22: Ryan, Yeah, it's hard for me as an outsider to
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Speaker 22: internal Iranian politics, But you know, certainly you're right. The
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Speaker 13: You know, to the Islamic uh theological structure of government. Yeah. So,
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Speaker 22: It's all Ali Kimani, you know, but you know, before
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33:40
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Speaker 4: So his talent, who are we talking to? It is
33:51
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33:59
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34:01
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34:05
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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, so and and and and not to dodge
34:16
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34:21
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Speaker 13: The guy's last name is Galliboff.
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Speaker 22: And yeah, so these two have been kind of the
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35:24
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Speaker 4: We heard him a little bit at the beginning, but yeah,
35:36
Speaker 4: I haven't heard a lot since. Yeah. So yeah, well,
35:41
Speaker 4: you know, and and that's to me important because if
35:44
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35:47
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35:51
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35:56
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36:00
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36:03
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36:07
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36:23
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36:26
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36:30
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Speaker 13: Yeah?
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Speaker 22: So the internet shutdown was pre persistent until recently. It
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36:54
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Speaker 3: The first Thing today on the Talk Media Network by
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Speaker 13: But I'm afraid of the Russians. I can't sleep.
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Speaker 4: Ryan Morgan on with us from epic times. I want
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Speaker 4: to pivot and I want to come back to Iran
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Speaker 4: in a moment, But I want to ask you, as
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Speaker 4: you are their foreign affairs correspondent of Vlad the Invader
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Speaker 4: has just said they're going to ramp up missile strikes
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Speaker 4: in Kiev to try to end this two week incursion
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Speaker 4: in Ukraine that is now in its fifth year. What
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Speaker 4: are you hearing from there? Is that coming? Is there
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Speaker 4: something you know?
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Speaker 3: Dire?
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Speaker 4: Is he going to go endgame on this to try
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Speaker 4: to finally finish this off and for all in a
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Speaker 4: in a mass explosion. Almost?
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Speaker 22: Yeah, I don't think that we're at the endgame stage here.
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Speaker 22: You know, certainly there were probably a lot of moments
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Speaker 22: that were also really dire in Putin's mind that he
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Speaker 22: didn't decide to pull.
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Speaker 13: The nuclear trigger, if that's what you're referring to.
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Speaker 22: That being said, Uh, there was an incident last week
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Speaker 22: that that really you know, drew his ire. The the
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Speaker 22: Ukrainians struck I believe as far as the Russian say,
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Speaker 22: the Ukrainians struck a Russian basically school dormitory where students
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Speaker 22: were at killed several of them, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 22: Putin's reaction has been Okay, we're going to start using
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Speaker 22: some of our more advanced hypersonic.
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Speaker 13: Gameballistic missile. Yeah, it's really uh.
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Speaker 4: Is is there a resolution while Putin and Zelensky remain
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Speaker 4: in power in those two countries? Has it been comes
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Speaker 4: so personal between the two of them?
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Speaker 22: Yeah, that's a good question that that might be a
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Speaker 22: little too hard for me to say at this time.
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Speaker 22: I'm it does seem like they are too just totally
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Speaker 22: divergent personalities, and I I kind of have to wonder,
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Speaker 22: you know, going in when.
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Speaker 13: When Trump, you know, took office.
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Speaker 22: Was there a was there a set you know, was
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Speaker 22: there a set groundwork?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 22: I think Trump really needs to try to lock them
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Speaker 22: into a consistent framework and you know, get them on
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Speaker 22: the home page, because it does seem like they kind
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Speaker 22: of have entertained entertained talk that would suggest that they're
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Speaker 22: on the same page on one day about you know,
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Speaker 22: one or two particular items and then though it seems
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Speaker 22: like the terms will change. I think the frustration for
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Speaker 22: Trump is that just getting all sides to agree on
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Speaker 22: the same thing consistently from one day to the next.
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Speaker 13: Both Putin and Zelensky kind of have.
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Speaker 22: Indicated that Yeah, they can shift a little bit, Putin especially,
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Speaker 22: but you know the Ukrainians as well. There is a
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Speaker 22: lot of hemming and hawing about whether or not Ukraine
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Speaker 22: would have to you know, give up some territory. You know,
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Speaker 22: more recently, the Ukrainians are starting to really, you know,
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Speaker 22: really slowly claw back some territory, at least as far
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Speaker 22: as some of the more recent analyses from the Institute
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Speaker 22: for the Study of War.
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Speaker 4: So Ryan, the question that I have to ask is
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Speaker 4: what is this from where you said, what do you hear?
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Speaker 4: Are people hopeful about this sixty day extension bringing something
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Speaker 4: you know, on a grander scale to this or not?
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Speaker 22: Yeah, I would say say cautious optimism.
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Speaker 13: You know.
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Speaker 22: Obviously, you know, the timeline of this conflict has been
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Speaker 22: far more stretched out.
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Speaker 13: Than I think anyone really planned.
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Speaker 22: You know, in the opening days, I was looking back
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Speaker 22: through my previous reporting, and you know, March ten, if
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Speaker 22: you can throw your mind back that far, Trump was saying,
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Speaker 22: you know, the fighting is almost over. And then we
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Speaker 22: had you know, another month of it before we got
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Speaker 22: to the ceasefire. And then all throughout the ceasefire there's
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Speaker 22: been back and forth.
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Speaker 13: Oh, we're close to a deal, But I.
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Speaker 22: Would say that the latest developments, we do have the
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Speaker 22: highest level of specificity here, and for the first time,
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Speaker 22: it really does seem that the public messaging from both
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Speaker 22: sides is converging on the same details. You know, obviously
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Speaker 22: there are still those concerns where you know, the Orions
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Speaker 22: do not like our blockade. Every time we do an
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Speaker 22: enforcement action of that blockade, they get pissed off, they
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Speaker 22: start launching drum and then we return fire. So there
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Speaker 22: there are some friction points that haven't haven't fully resolved.
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Speaker 22: But I would say the fact that both sides are
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Speaker 22: starting to describe the same details of this of the
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Speaker 22: sixty day deal, does bode well.
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Speaker 4: What about the strait of horror moves. That's the key,
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Speaker 4: and that's always been the key, that's been the eight
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Speaker 4: hundred pound gorilla in the room against any action against
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Speaker 4: Iran is not whether or not they do something militarily,
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Speaker 4: but we need the straight of horror moves and we're
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Speaker 4: seeing that. So is there a need for the UN
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Speaker 4: or somebody to come in there and establish that this
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Speaker 4: is not somebody's territorial waters. It's a main throoughfare of
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Speaker 4: shipping and it has to stay open regardless of what
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Speaker 4: treaties say about twenty miles and things like that.
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Speaker 22: Yeah, so, I mean the UN convention uh for the
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Speaker 22: law of the Sea, the you know, the the u N.
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Speaker 13: Policy on this is already.
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Speaker 22: Clear about you know, where those there's you know, when
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Speaker 22: there's a narrow choke point like that, those territorial waters
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Speaker 22: do not come into play.
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Speaker 4: It seems like that's what that seems to be what
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Speaker 4: Iran is invoking, saying, well, this is our waterway here
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Speaker 4: because it's our border, and and I think that needs
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Speaker 4: to be addressed. I think are people talking about that?
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Speaker 13: Yeah?
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Speaker 22: So, so the the sticking point is the Iranians are
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Speaker 22: not They they never signed onto that the u N
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Speaker 22: Convention on on on Sea Traffic. So their position is, well,
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Speaker 22: this doesn't apply to us. We're not parties to that deal.
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Speaker 22: You know, certainly you could you could argue that there's
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Speaker 22: a lot of different violations of u N charters throughout this.
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Speaker 13: Conflict on both sides.
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Speaker 22: You know that the u N you know, discourages offensive
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Speaker 22: military operations against a sovereign nation, and you know the
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Speaker 22: United States and Israel launched a war, so you know,
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Speaker 22: there are there are things that are Frankly, the u N,
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Speaker 22: you know, the u N Charter is just not really
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Speaker 22: equipped to actually be enforced. It's amazing committee after a while. Yeah,
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Speaker 22: rule by committee after a while just isn't very effective.
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Speaker 22: And and at the end of the day, we are
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Speaker 22: just kind of dealing with this is the law the
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Speaker 22: jungle might makes right, and the United States is the
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Speaker 22: you know, is the toughest kid on the.
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Speaker 4: Block until until our oil supply go it gets constricted,
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Speaker 4: and then our gas prices go up to five dollars gallin.
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Speaker 4: Ryan Morgan from Epic Times is on with us. Last
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Speaker 4: question for you, Ryan, does this resolve before September begins,
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Speaker 4: because that's sort of the campaigning season for the mid
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Speaker 4: term elections and and and how quickly do gas prices
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Speaker 4: come down if that's the case.
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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think I think there is a reasonable case
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Speaker 22: to say that this does resolve by September. You know,
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Speaker 22: obviously the Republican Party would certainly prefer that to be
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Speaker 22: the case going into midterms. There is you know, obviously
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Speaker 22: obviously there is the risk factor. You know, we're going
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Speaker 22: into a sixty day deal starting from whenever that deal
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Speaker 22: is actually signed.
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Speaker 4: So that's through August right or no July. Yeah, in
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Speaker 4: the beginning of August there, Yeah, because that's the political
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Speaker 4: ramifications of that. We appreciate it, Ryan, and we appreciate you.
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