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You Can't List Five Things If You Didn't Do Five Things · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 1: your day, and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, twenty six day of February. I'm Wes. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me. So much talk and controversy and general
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Speaker 2: freaking out about this email going out to some federal
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Speaker 2: employees saying, hey, tell us what you did five things
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Speaker 2: you did last week, and if you don't reply to this,
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Speaker 2: we'll consider that your resignation. And there's some questions about
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Speaker 2: how much of the verbiage that was reported was even
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Speaker 2: in it. It doesn't even matter. I don't want to
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Speaker 2: get into the legality or the I just a couple
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Speaker 2: things that I would kind of like to talk about,
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Speaker 2: just as this is a concept, imagine if you will,
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Speaker 2: that's that scenario is never the resignation part of it
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Speaker 2: is a little bit different. But if you've ever worked
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Speaker 2: a corporate job, most most people that have worked some
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Speaker 2: sort of corporate job has had to be accountable for
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Speaker 2: what work they were doing. I mean that's a you know,
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Speaker 2: and well, I say, is a corporate job. I'm getting
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Speaker 2: to a point with corporate but with all jobs, most
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Speaker 2: jobs that you have, you have to be accountable for
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Speaker 2: the work that you're doing. What did you do yesterday?
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Speaker 2: What did you get accomplished? What is the job? That's
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Speaker 2: for most people that work jobs period. If you've worked
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Speaker 2: in a corporate job, though, you may have gotten a
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Speaker 2: similar email that just kind of says, hey, give us
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Speaker 2: a rundown on what you do every day, every week,
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Speaker 2: in a month. What are your year long objectives and goals.
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Speaker 2: I've had to do that. Working a corporate job for
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Speaker 2: a large broadcast company. Was it a sign that downsizing
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Speaker 2: was coming? We all certainly felt that. I think that's
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Speaker 2: an indicator of we're looking on ways that we can
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Speaker 2: consolidate jobs. We want to know, maybe not necessarily who's
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Speaker 2: not doing any work, but maybe it's hey, who's maybe
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Speaker 2: qualified to add something to their plate that somebody else
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Speaker 2: isn't really getting done. I know that's the optimistic side
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Speaker 2: of it. And if you've ever in not to be
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Speaker 2: a cynic that's worked at large companies that were absolutely
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Speaker 2: looking for any opportunity whatsoever to lay off people because
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Speaker 2: you know, there was a debt buy off or something
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Speaker 2: that was going on. Not that I have experience with
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Speaker 2: that directly or anything, but the idea that a large
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Speaker 2: corporation might ask its employees basically to lay out more
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Speaker 2: or less your job description, and what of those things
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Speaker 2: in your job description are you doing. That happens, It
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Speaker 2: happens at the corporate level. It happens to some people regularly,
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Speaker 2: a management change, a shift in leadership, a regional shift
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Speaker 2: in things. In radio, there was a time where I
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Speaker 2: worked for one person. He was the boss, he owned
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Speaker 2: the station. I worked for him. Those were great days,
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Speaker 2: and those early in my radio career. And then eventually
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Speaker 2: I worked for another owner who owned multiple radio stations,
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Speaker 2: and then he sold them to a large company who
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Speaker 2: you know, did what corporate radio does, slowly, but surely eventually,
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Speaker 2: and then finally we had a day where the owner
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Speaker 2: of that company, or one of the owners of that company,
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Speaker 2: came to visit us and told us, Hey, we're just
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Speaker 2: here checking things out. Don't worry about all these things
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Speaker 2: you've heard about Us'll be selling you guys. That's not true,
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Speaker 2: and that's why I'm here. And then within a week
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Speaker 2: we were sold, so you know, that's the nature of it.
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Speaker 2: But we were sold to another company, a large company
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Speaker 2: who over time would often ask us things like, hey,
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Speaker 2: what do you do every day? What is your what
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Speaker 2: exactly is your job? Just give us a rundown on
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Speaker 2: what you do, check list of what you did, give
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Speaker 2: us some bullet points. Describe what you did at work yesterday,
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Speaker 2: last week, last month, you know, and you sat there
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Speaker 2: and it was a project and it was stressful, it
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Speaker 2: was it was highly stressful. Nobody likes to get that email,
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Speaker 2: Nobody likes to experience it. But you know what, it's
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Speaker 2: part of working for a large corporation sometimes. And if
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Speaker 2: you have a job, any job where you're not working
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Speaker 2: for a large corporation, and you don't sit down and say,
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Speaker 2: here's what what I was doing yesterday? Boss, Maybe you
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Speaker 2: own the company and you've got people that work for
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Speaker 2: you occasionally you like to check in with them and say, hey,
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Speaker 2: what you do yesterday? What would you You don't ask
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Speaker 2: it that way, but you can, certainly, even from a
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Speaker 2: servant leadership standpoint, approach it and say how can I
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Speaker 2: help you this week? How can I help you? You know,
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Speaker 2: getting your goals accomplished right? Because that's you know, that
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Speaker 2: doesn't always have to be negative. I understand the cynic
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Speaker 2: in all of us looks at you know, this email
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Speaker 2: conversation that we've had earlier this week, and looks at
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Speaker 2: it and says, well, clearly, this is a bad thing.
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Speaker 2: And in the case of this government things sure, it
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Speaker 2: certainly voted poorly, it bowed poorly, it didn't it didn't
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Speaker 2: look good for those employees. By the way, just as
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Speaker 2: an observation, just a little side note, there was a
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Speaker 2: time when people would say that the best job that
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Speaker 2: you could encourage college students to get into, or your
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Speaker 2: kids to get into it was to get into, you know, cybersecurity,
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Speaker 2: Like that's the job that's growing, that's the job that
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Speaker 2: everybody's in demand. It still is, it's still a hot job.
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Speaker 2: It may still be the top job for people to
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Speaker 2: get into, you know, college students. There's so many degrees
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Speaker 2: that feel like throwaway degrees they say that is the
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Speaker 2: one that is not the case. And there's federal jobs,
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Speaker 2: there's state jobs, there's local jobs, there's corporate jobs. There's
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Speaker 2: so many jobs in cybersecurity right now. And it's a
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Speaker 2: hot job for a number of reasons. Everybody wants to
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Speaker 2: know that they have some sort of security in whatever
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Speaker 2: network that they're working in. They want to know that
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Speaker 2: they're one step ahead or maybe even just a step
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Speaker 2: behind cyber criminals. It's a hot job. You need it
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Speaker 2: that you can't really be ahad. Maybe some cases you
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Speaker 2: can be ahead, but most of the time you got
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Speaker 2: to be right behind them. Figure out what they're doing,
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Speaker 2: figure out how to shut it down, move on to
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Speaker 2: the next thing, because there's always someone who's trying to
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Speaker 2: figure out whatever the means is to hack into a network,
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Speaker 2: to shut down a network, whatever it is. I would argue, though,
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Speaker 2: just over this last month or so, this first full
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Speaker 2: month of the second Trump presidency, that the new job
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Speaker 2: that you should encourage everyone to get into is, you know,
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Speaker 2: one of these federal jobs where you don't have to
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Speaker 2: do anything. You just collect a paycheck. You know, you
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Speaker 2: get on the internet and you do whatever that go
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Speaker 2: into the chat rooms and discuss your personal life and
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Speaker 2: deeply personal things that you do or you've done, you know,
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Speaker 2: in some cases actual things. You get on there and
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Speaker 2: there's they've uncovered that, there's people that have been doing
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Speaker 2: that getting paid. There's people that aren't showing up for
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Speaker 2: work at all. There's people who are struggling with a
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Speaker 2: question like, Hey, what are the five things that you
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Speaker 2: did yesterday? Struggling with that. They can't answer the question.
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Speaker 2: They're going, I did what I do every day? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: what's that? What I do every day? But what is that?
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Speaker 2: People that are struggling with that, they don't they don't
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Speaker 2: know how to answer the question. They don't know how
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Speaker 2: to answer it. But they're collecting a paycheck, right, They're
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Speaker 2: locked in a federal job, and they think they can't
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Speaker 2: be fired. They think, oh, well, there's all these things
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Speaker 2: in place that prevent me from losing my job or
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Speaker 2: prevent me from being fired, or it's a union or
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Speaker 2: a number of things that could stop you from getting fired.
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Speaker 2: But you could keep getting your check without the accountability
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Speaker 2: of doing the work. And then here's the here's the
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Speaker 2: like that sounds pretty good. I mean it sounds pretty
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Speaker 2: good if you just want to know that you've got
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Speaker 2: that job security and you've got that steady federal paycheck. Right,
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Speaker 2: and then if you happen to be in a job
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Speaker 2: where maybe you could be let go, like half of
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Speaker 2: the American public, forty year percent or so, will scream
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Speaker 2: out in anger that you lost your job. They have
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Speaker 2: no idea if you were working, They have no idea
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Speaker 2: if you were doing anything They have no idea if
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Speaker 2: you did anything to deserve or earn the job. But
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Speaker 2: they'll defend you because someone in Congress told them that
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Speaker 2: they're supposed to defend you. Someone in Congress who's benefiting
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Speaker 2: somehow by you having that job or some of these
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Speaker 2: other jobs. They'll defend you. They'll die on that hill that,
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Speaker 2: by golly, we need to make sure these people don't
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Speaker 2: lose their jobs, which ones all of them. They shouldn't
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Speaker 2: lose their jobs. That's the job that you want. That's
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Speaker 2: the career path that everybody should choose. By the way,
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Speaker 2: that's it. That's the job man. Especially you get into
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Speaker 2: one of these ones that's protected by a union, and
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Speaker 2: you can get locked into that. Don't have to do anything.
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Speaker 2: If you get sent a message that says, hey, we're
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Speaker 2: just wondering what you've been working on, don't even respond.
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Speaker 2: You don't have to nope, And if somebody even threatens
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Speaker 2: your job, people are going to defend you to the death. Man.
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Speaker 2: They'll defend you all the way to the end. They
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Speaker 2: don't even have to know, they don't have to know you,
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Speaker 2: They don't have to know what you do. They don't
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Speaker 2: know what department you're in they're just going to be outraged.
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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good gig if you can get it anyway.
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Speaker 2: If you're struggling with being able to figure out what
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Speaker 2: you did, Look if you're self employed. If you're self
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Speaker 2: employed and you're the only person that works at your business,
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Speaker 2: you got to be able toccasionally sit down and write down, Hey,
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Speaker 2: here's what I worked on this week. Here are my objectives,
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Speaker 2: here are my goals. Not everybody needs that, but most
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Speaker 2: people will need some sort of an outline or focus
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Speaker 2: of what they're going to be working on. If you're
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Speaker 2: struggling with it, and you're collecting money from taxpayers, do
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Speaker 2: you just feel like you're entitled to that money and
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Speaker 2: you can't tell them what you did? You can't report in, Hey,
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Speaker 2: here's what I've been working on. Here's what I do
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Speaker 2: at work every day. I realize some of this may
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Speaker 2: come to people that just fall at the feet of
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Speaker 2: people who feel like they don't like Doge, they don't
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Speaker 2: like Elon Musk. How dare he come in here? And
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Speaker 2: who gives him the right to question what I'm doing
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Speaker 2: every day? I don't know the president that's who gave
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Speaker 2: him the right, But people don't want to acknowledge that.
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Speaker 2: They don't want to acknowledge the fact that the president
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Speaker 2: has the authority to point people into some of these positions.
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Speaker 2: They Oh, but how dare him ask me these questions?
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Speaker 2: Somebody should be at Someone should have always been asking it.
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Speaker 2: Someone absolutely should have been asking these questions all along,
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Speaker 2: just for the sake of productivity, just for the sake of,
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Speaker 2: you know, getting some sort of work done, some sort
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Speaker 2: of task accomplished. You can't sit down and write down
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Speaker 2: five things you worked on yesterday at your job. I
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Speaker 2: could do it in any job that I've ever had.
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Speaker 2: I mean any job that I ever had. I can
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Speaker 2: remember working in a record store. I could tell my
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Speaker 2: boss what I did the day before. Here's what I
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Speaker 2: worked on last night. I worked in a couple of
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Speaker 2: record stores. You could always come down and this is
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Speaker 2: what we did last night. Sometimes you even let them
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Speaker 2: know ahead of time if you think they might ask
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Speaker 2: you just say, hey, look, I know there was a
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Speaker 2: project that we were trying to get to. These are
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Speaker 2: the reasons I didn't get to them. We had a
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Speaker 2: shoplifter that came in and tried to steal from us.
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Speaker 2: One of the employees wasn't feeling well and they took
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Speaker 2: a long break because they were sick. And we were
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Speaker 2: very busy, and you can tell from the numbers last night,
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Speaker 2: and we did a lot of business, and you can
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Speaker 2: tell we were low on these CDs because there was
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Speaker 2: a run on this for some reason. That was the explanation.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you tell them proactively, here's why we didn't get
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Speaker 2: to the thing that you wanted us to get to.
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Speaker 2: And there's been times where I've been the manager and
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Speaker 2: I come into my staff and I say, hey, why
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Speaker 2: didn't we get all this stuff done? Sometimes they have
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Speaker 2: a reason, sometimes they don't. And as a manager you
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Speaker 2: have to deal with that. But you don't walk up
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Speaker 2: and ask someone and they just look at and you go,
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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what collectively was done with this
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Speaker 2: email coming in from Doughson. What'd you do? Huh? That's
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Speaker 2: if they even got that. In many cases they didn't
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Speaker 2: even get that, not even an I don't know. Hey, quickly,
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Speaker 2: we want to touch on this. We talked about the briefly.
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Speaker 2: We just kind of in passing I guess address the
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Speaker 2: president talking with the Democratic main governor Janet Mills about
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Speaker 2: the with all the governors in and they were talking
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Speaker 2: about trans athletes, and she had said that she was
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Speaker 2: gonna see him in court concerning trans athletes. And I
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Speaker 2: just think this is one of those things where we
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Speaker 2: can feel that the tide has changed quite a bit,
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Speaker 2: and we understand that there are actually people thinking on
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Speaker 2: the left. In some cases, there are people thinking and
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Speaker 2: understanding that the way that business was done before can't
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Speaker 2: continue to be done that way. I don't ever refer
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Speaker 2: to this person by the full name that they go by,
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Speaker 2: because and we've talked about before, I do my best
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Speaker 2: to address if Kevin wants to be Steve now, if
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Speaker 2: Sally wants to be Steve now, I do my best
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Speaker 2: with that. I understand that there's you know, this is
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Speaker 2: a nickname that this person uses. I don't say the
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Speaker 2: full name. I'll just say enough of it that you
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Speaker 2: know who I'm talking about. I don't particularly care for
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Speaker 2: the full name. But radio host from the Breakfast Club
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Speaker 2: Charlemagne addressed this main governor and says, why are folks
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Speaker 2: still talking about trans athletes? Like that is a losing
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Speaker 2: talking point. America is not with it, and they keep
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Speaker 2: making a micro a macro with that conversation it impacts
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Speaker 2: such a small group of people, but it makes a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of people think folks lack common sense. So
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Speaker 2: the why are they even having this common conversation? And
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Speaker 2: I can't believe it's states that still want to die
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Speaker 2: on that hill, Like none of these states have a
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Speaker 2: high percentage of trans athletes. So what's the issue. It's
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Speaker 2: a great question. It's a great question, and you can't
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Speaker 2: help but ask, like when you're even if you're just
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Speaker 2: playing the odds, and sometimes you have to do that
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Speaker 2: sometimes in politics, you know, you have to make compromises
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Speaker 2: on certain things. So I guess the question that he's
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Speaker 2: kind of asking is not too dissimilar to one of
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Speaker 2: the point that I've been trying to make for a
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Speaker 2: while now. Sometimes you have to say, this is a
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Speaker 2: very small number of people that we're talking about versus
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Speaker 2: I don't know, fifty one percent of the population that
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Speaker 2: are women that were born women that either want to
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Speaker 2: play sports, want their daughters to play sports, their granddaughters
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Speaker 2: to play sports, want their brothers, cousins, sister's niece to
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Speaker 2: play sports, whatever it is they want them to be
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Speaker 2: able to play sports. Is what we've been fighting for
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Speaker 2: for a long time, And I say I just mean collectively.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't part of fighting for title nine back in
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Speaker 2: the day. I'm not taking credit for that, But collectively,
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Speaker 2: that's something that we all fought for, and it's something
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Speaker 2: that we need to hang on to, right and you
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Speaker 2: want to fight for. As the NCAA president pointed out,
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Speaker 2: there's very few at the college level, very few trans athletes,
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Speaker 2: very very few. There were making a bigger deal about it. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's just a few people, but those few people have
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Speaker 2: an impact on a lot of people. They transition. Someone
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Speaker 2: transitions from a man to a woman and dominates in
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Speaker 2: the pool. Think of all of the other athletes that
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Speaker 2: are affected by that. So you're impacting a large group
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Speaker 2: of people so that you can push for this self
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Speaker 2: righteous Hey, we fight for people who need us to
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Speaker 2: fight for them, and it's a really small number of people.
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Speaker 2: I'm not in any way disregarding any group of people.
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Speaker 2: I've talked a lot about this issue. I've made it
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Speaker 2: very well known that I'm a firm believer. You live
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Speaker 2: your life, you be who you want to be in
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Speaker 2: all areas, even this till that affects other people. But
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Speaker 2: once you transition from a man to a woman, and
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Speaker 2: you get into a pool or a locker room or
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Speaker 2: in public, you force someone to speak a certain way
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Speaker 2: because of what you've decided to do. That's when it
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Speaker 2: becomes another issue. And if it's having an impact on
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Speaker 2: other people and their ability to have success in sports,
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Speaker 2: Right after the break, well back to talking about employment.
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Speaker 2: There was a time where one of the goals of
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Speaker 2: having a job was to, you know, get promoted, get
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Speaker 2: some sort of advancement, move ahead, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: get more responsibilities, more pay and those sorts of things. Well,
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Speaker 2: apparently this is not so much a goal anymore, least
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Speaker 2: not when it comes to younger workers. Ranstad's twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: four work Monitor report says thirty nine percent of workers
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Speaker 2: are not interested in promotions and that forty two percent
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Speaker 2: said they would decline one if offered. Seems gen Z
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Speaker 2: is more interested in having a healthy work life balance
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Speaker 2: pursuing personal interest in moving up the corporate ladder, especially
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Speaker 2: if the money isn't enough to make up for the
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Speaker 2: extra time and effort. Makes sense to me, But can
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Speaker 2: they tell you five things that they did yesterday. That's
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Speaker 2: another question anyway. All right, let's talk about technology and this.
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Speaker 2: You know, everything with technology, you go through these phases
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Speaker 2: of you know, something gets made, the old thing becomes obsolete. Well,
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Speaker 2: apparently we're going through this situation now where gen Z
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Speaker 2: is getting into some old technology. Yeah, iPods. Gen Z
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Speaker 2: going crazy over iPods, all about them, and they say
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Speaker 2: that urban outfitters have been selling decades old iPods for
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Speaker 2: hundreds of dollars and they're just blowing off the shelves.
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Speaker 2: Gen Z all about the iPod. It's weird. Phones will
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Speaker 2: hold all that, you can store it, but they like
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Speaker 2: to have it. I guess on the iPod, I think
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Speaker 2: they're still great for travel because then you don't burn
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Speaker 2: out your battery on your phone or whatever, especially if
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Speaker 2: you're doing a long flight. All right, Wired headphones, gen
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Speaker 2: Z all about the wired headphones cheaper than wireless ones.
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Speaker 2: They don't need to be recharged, harder to lose. So
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Speaker 2: you know, that's one of those things, the wired headphones.
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Speaker 2: Vintage digital cameras. I witnessed this kind of recently where
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Speaker 2: I saw some teenagers like my son's age, using a
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Speaker 2: digital camera and I was like, really and they're like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's great. You just got your pictures on it. You
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Speaker 2: take them out, you put them on your computer. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I'm familiar with the process. We kind of worked hard
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Speaker 2: to get away from that process, and now it's going
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Speaker 2: back to that process. It's more difficult to share them.
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Speaker 2: So it doesn't seem like it would make sense. But
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Speaker 2: I guess it does make sense that it's they're embracing
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Speaker 2: it because maybe they're not going to share it, or
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Speaker 2: they just want to be able to have the pictures
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Speaker 2: for themselves. And in this particular case with one of
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Speaker 2: these teenagers, I managed to get my hands on their
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Speaker 2: digital camera and take it around and just start taking
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Speaker 2: random photos of everything I could take photos of at
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Speaker 2: the particular venue and let them find them later, and
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Speaker 2: that was fun for me. Wouldn't be able to do
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Speaker 2: that with their phone, Like I'm just gonna be able
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Speaker 2: to get their phone and be able to do it.
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Speaker 2: So college educated Americans are looking to move and have
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Speaker 2: made New York City a hot destination in the country,
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Speaker 2: with New York topping a list of destinations for young
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Speaker 2: college grads looking for high paying white collar jobs in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. According to the most recent Census Bureau
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Speaker 2: data Behind New York was Washington, d C, followed by Dallas, Atlanta, LA,
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Speaker 2: and Chicago. Interesting with a lot of people moving out
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Speaker 2: of New York and a lot of people moving out
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Speaker 2: of California, and I guess moving out of any of
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Speaker 2: the states that have high taxes. Interesting that you got.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, if you're looking at a white collar job,
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Speaker 2: maybe New York is still one of those places that
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Speaker 2: you kind of have to be. I suppose, or at
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Speaker 2: least there's a perception there of it. If you don't
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Speaker 2: have time to exercise, so you think you don't, do
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Speaker 2: you have five minutes a day? Well, apparently, according to
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Speaker 2: a new study, five minutes of exercise a day can
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Speaker 2: reduce your risk of dementia by a lot. Researchers at
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Speaker 2: Johns Hopkins University have found that doing just thirty five
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Speaker 2: minutes of moderate exercise a week can reduce the likelihood
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Speaker 2: of getting dementia by forty one percent. So do it.
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Speaker 2: Five minutes, that's all you need, Just five minutes moving around.
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Speaker 2: You probably got the watch on telling you to stand
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Speaker 2: up every now and then stand up, move around. You
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Speaker 2: need five minutes take a walk around the block. That's
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Speaker 2: five minutes. Knock it out. You can do it. And
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Speaker 2: if you watch your you know, smart watch isn't telling
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Speaker 2: you to do it. Set your iPod up to tell
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Speaker 2: you on the wired headphones or your digital camera. Hey,
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Speaker 2: that'll do it for this Wednesday edition of the show.
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