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The entire broadcast from Wednesday 05/06/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: All righty. Callers in line, stand by on NewsRadio 570.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see here. On one of these lines, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to find Dave Thomas with the reports as state rep.
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  Speaker 2: Hello?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not Dave.
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  Speaker 1: Stand by. Hello?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Ron.
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  Speaker 1: There he is. This is Dave Thomas. All right. Election
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  Speaker 1: season is done. And welcome, Dave Thomas, back to the
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  Speaker 1: program on NewsRadio 570. Did you have a nice election season?
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me back on. A little bit strange
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  Speaker 4: not to call in during the month of April, but
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  Speaker 4: good to be calling back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Well, let's talk a little bit. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, well, and Dave, I
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  Speaker 1: confess to everybody, as I said yesterday, in my own
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  Speaker 1: community here in Austintown Township and in Mahoning County, I
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  Speaker 1: voted no. in favor of the renewals. These were road taxes.
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  Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying? Paving that's, that's been going on.
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  Speaker 1: If you're familiar with Mahoning County, it's a quarter percent
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  Speaker 1: sales tax. That's, uh, It's made tremendous difference. You don't
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  Speaker 1: even notice it, really. It's made tremendous difference in the
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  Speaker 1: ability of our county engineer to get a lot of
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  Speaker 1: roads done. The level like we've never seen before, okay?
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  Speaker 1: And it benefits the townships as well. So that passed.
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  Speaker 1: It's a sales tax. In my community, there were some
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  Speaker 1: property tax renewals for our roads in our township as well.
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  Speaker 1: and I got to have good roads, I can't have
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  Speaker 1: potholes and that kind of stuff. So when people make
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  Speaker 1: a big deal out of, well, take a look, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this stuff passed and a lot of this stuff was renewals. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's probably why it passed. Even I voted for these renewals.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote against them and have crappier
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  Speaker 1: roads at this point in time. So when they act
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  Speaker 1: like there isn't an issue with property taxes, Is that
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  Speaker 1: a fair argument to make? I mean, I do think
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  Speaker 1: people support their police, even additional money for their police
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  Speaker 1: and their roads and renewals so far. Comments?
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  Speaker 4: We're still kind of looking at some of the numbers
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  Speaker 4: from levies across the state.
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  Speaker 1: Most of them failed.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, actually, it's ironic because a lot of folks say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: it's the November election when more people are going to
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  Speaker 4: the polls. where people will vote them down. But at
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  Speaker 4: least so far from what I've seen, we're actually seeing
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  Speaker 4: a lot more failures or if there's passage, almost every
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  Speaker 4: single one I've seen of a new levy is within 5%.
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  Speaker 4: Even renewals were very close too. So we'll have those
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  Speaker 4: kind of full numbers back. But yeah, every levy in
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  Speaker 4: Trumbull County passed new and renewal. Every one in Mahoning
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  Speaker 4: passed new and renewal. And I do love that concept
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  Speaker 4: of you're all's sales tax for your roads. Um, it
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  Speaker 4: just makes a lot of sense. So I'm glad I
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  Speaker 4: was glad to see that one. That's how it should
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  Speaker 4: be done much more.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And with the renewals in my township, Austintown Township, I
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  Speaker 1: voted for them because that's your local roads within your community,
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  Speaker 1: which need resurfaced and potholes fixed and what have you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's one of the most important
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  Speaker 1: things you can do. Trust me, if there was a
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  Speaker 1: levy on my ballot for money for my school system
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  Speaker 1: or additional money, I would not vote for it. Just
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  Speaker 1: so we get a clear understanding.
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  Speaker 3: You know, on that.
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  Speaker 4: And actually, one of the levies in Ashtabula that failed,
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  Speaker 4: Ashtabula County, five of the eight passed, the three that failed,
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  Speaker 4: one of them was actually renewal for the school system.
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  Speaker 4: And that went down. And that's what we're kind of
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  Speaker 4: seeing across the state. If levies passed for school systems,
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  Speaker 4: we had a record number of income tax levy requests
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  Speaker 4: for schools across the state. It seemed like those had
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  Speaker 4: a better pass rate. They were close. But anecdotally, if
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  Speaker 4: a school levy passed, it was actually that. Otherwise, most
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  Speaker 4: of them went down. Now, your chair, because Lorain City Schools,
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  Speaker 4: theirs passed. Theirs' largest levy request this past year, 11 mils.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: 11 mils.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just huge. That's about $ 400 for $ 100, 000
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  Speaker 1: of value.
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  Speaker 4: And up there, values are high.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand that, but thankfully, I don't
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  Speaker 1: live there. But basically, when they were talking about statewide,
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  Speaker 1: property taxes didn't do too good in general.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll definitely be. This past November was 87%. It's
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  Speaker 4: not anywhere near 87% passage for this election. So as
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  Speaker 4: soon as I get those numbers back, I'll let you know.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought that was a pretty interesting indicator and
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  Speaker 4: a lot more, like I said, not property tax ones
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  Speaker 4: for schools or local governments, but more on the income
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  Speaker 4: tax side.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: I want to let everybody, I want you to explain
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  Speaker 1: something to everybody that's listening. And I mean, all of
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  Speaker 1: you that are listening here in my neck of the
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  Speaker 1: woods and in Ohio. Traditionally, in the past, when we
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  Speaker 1: did the re-evaluations and they said your house is now
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  Speaker 1: worth 20 or 30 percent, that was your increase. And
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  Speaker 1: that's how it worked. Now, re-evaluations are going on again
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  Speaker 1: in Mahoning County. And it's different this time because of
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  Speaker 1: legislation you put forth and was approved. So could you
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  Speaker 1: explain the difference that everyone will benefit from as a
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  Speaker 1: result of you and the Republicans? when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: their property taxes and the re-evaluations and the increase. There
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  Speaker 1: will still be an increase when your homes are re-evaluated
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  Speaker 1: as they are now in Mahoning County, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be nearly as big because of the rules
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  Speaker 1: you put in place. Explain it so our listeners can understand.
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  Speaker 7: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: That unvoted portion of your property tax bill that's tied
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  Speaker 4: directly to your value. So when your value goes up,
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  Speaker 4: Unvoted portion goes up right along with it.
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  Speaker 1: Inside millage, we call it.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, inside millage and the 20-mil floor.
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  Speaker 1: And there's even some outside millage, as I understand it,
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  Speaker 1: that goes up, too, like on joint vocational schools, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, JVSs have that, it's called a 2-mil floor, which
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  Speaker 4: is very similar to a 20-mil floor. And that's tied
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  Speaker 4: directly to your value. That is also now capped at inflation.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so explain to people. I just want everyone
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  Speaker 1: to understand. And I want all of you to listen.
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  Speaker 1: All right? This is because of what you and your
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  Speaker 1: fellow Republicans have done. In other words, if you didn't
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  Speaker 1: do any of this stuff that you're about to explain
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  Speaker 1: to our listeners, and these re-evaluations would be coming in
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  Speaker 1: as they are at 20% or 30% increases, it means
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  Speaker 1: that's what your increase would be. Correct? 20% and 30%.
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  Speaker 1: Is that accurate? Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, because a good portion of your bill is
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  Speaker 4: tied to your value. The strongest that we could get
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  Speaker 4: passed by the current governor and signed is to say,
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  Speaker 4: no longer will it be tied directly to your value.
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  Speaker 4: So when the honing goes up again 20% or 25%,
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  Speaker 4: instead of your tax bill going up by that portion,
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  Speaker 4: it's now capped at whatever inflation was over the last
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  Speaker 4: three years, more than likely over the last three years
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  Speaker 4: between 7% to 8%.
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  Speaker 1: So even though with the re-evaluations, folks, the last thing
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  Speaker 1: we need is for your property taxes to go up.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get a vote on it. They just re-evaluate
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  Speaker 1: your home and say your home's now worth this or
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  Speaker 1: we think it's worth this much. So now your taxes
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  Speaker 1: go to this. They automatically go up 7% or 8%.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not happy about it, but it's better than 20%
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  Speaker 1: or 30% because you changed how you and the Republicans
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  Speaker 1: changed the Correct.
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  Speaker 4: We limited for the first time what local governments have
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  Speaker 4: been relying on, which was higher and higher property values
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  Speaker 4: into that automatic increase in property tax revenue every three years.
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  Speaker 4: So now that's limited and capped just to inflation, because
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  Speaker 4: the whole concept should be that government really shouldn't get
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  Speaker 4: anything without approval. But again, what we could get passed
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  Speaker 4: by the governor is, Government shouldn't get more than inflation
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  Speaker 4: unless you, the voter, have approved it.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, because of you and the legislation the Republicans passed,
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  Speaker 1: instead of me seeing a, let's just use 20% increase,
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  Speaker 1: I will see a 6% or 7% increase. I'll save 13%
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  Speaker 1: off that increase. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if you though, you know, you said one of
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  Speaker 4: the levies that none of the levies that you voted
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  Speaker 4: on yesterday were new levies. Let's say your community voted
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  Speaker 4: for a new levy. Well, then you may have a
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  Speaker 4: higher increase because you've approved more money for a certain purpose.
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  Speaker 4: Or on the flip side, say your community was like
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  Speaker 4: that one in Ashtabula that said, no, we're not even
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  Speaker 4: going to approve this renewal. And your bill would actually
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  Speaker 4: go down even more than than what that inflationary number was.
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  Speaker 4: So the voters are still kind of bleeding the charge
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  Speaker 4: in a sense, but at the very least, that revenue
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  Speaker 4: coming in, what entities were expecting a 30% increase, now
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  Speaker 4: they're only getting that inflationary number of whatever it was.
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  Speaker 3: That cap.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's still an increase, but it's not as
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  Speaker 1: bad as it would be without you guys doing that.
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  Speaker 1: So I want our listeners to understand, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if they're Democrats or Republicans, what Dave Thomas and the
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  Speaker 1: Republicans got passed. In other words, these increases are not
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  Speaker 1: going to be tied to the 20% or 30% that
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  Speaker 1: we reevaluate your home on and say that's the number
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be based on what inflation averaged over
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  Speaker 1: the last three years. It's a change in how it's figured, correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's a whole kind of mindset shift for local governments,
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  Speaker 4: and it's a change in how we've always just kind
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  Speaker 4: of relied on that revenue coming in and the automatic increases.
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  Speaker 1: With State Rep Dave Thomas, how did... Wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: I think I lost you. How disappointed are you that
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  Speaker 1: so many counties, including the one in which I reside
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  Speaker 1: in Trumbull County, and so many counties are not taking
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  Speaker 1: advantage of the power that county commissioners have to give
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  Speaker 1: people a portion of the huge increase back to them
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  Speaker 1: with doubling the homestead exemption, as I say, which is
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  Speaker 1: once again, for our poorest senior citizens because it's income-based,
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  Speaker 1: doubling the homestead exemption and doubling the owner occupancy credits.
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  Speaker 1: How disappointed are you that the majority of our county's
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  Speaker 1: commissioners haven't done that?
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  Speaker 4: I'm still pushing them.
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  Speaker 9: But yes, disappointed.
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  Speaker 4: And the perfect example, I have a graph on my
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  Speaker 4: Facebook page of an example township of one I spoke
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  Speaker 4: at recently. And it showed in the 2023 revaluation, their 32%
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  Speaker 4: increase in revenue. Then it showed now that we're capped
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  Speaker 4: at inflation, I put it at 9% in the graph
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  Speaker 4: to show the worst case scenario, what their even new
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  Speaker 4: revenue will be next year. And I showed then difference
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  Speaker 4: with if we were to pass in Trumbull County, for example,
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  Speaker 4: a piggyback, which would double the savings for their residents,
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  Speaker 4: that'd be money not coming into government, what that difference
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  Speaker 4: would be for the township, they would actually be flat
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  Speaker 4: this year. They wouldn't actually get a cut in their revenue.
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  Speaker 4: So it'd be the perfect way to help prevent, even
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  Speaker 4: more so, any of those spikes from happening for those,
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  Speaker 4: in this case, seniors, for example. And that local government
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't actually lose money. It's a perfect explanation of A
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  Speaker 4: tool that we have, again, with the current governor, I
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  Speaker 4: could not get a forced acceptance of that local level
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  Speaker 4: for the piggyback, but could give it to counties. About
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  Speaker 4: 10 counties did this to pass that double to save
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  Speaker 4: directly those homeowners.
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  Speaker 1: Right. If I say in my own county, in Mahoning County,
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  Speaker 1: and I say, listen, you guys got a huge increase
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  Speaker 1: to all of these commissioners. that we have that seem
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  Speaker 1: to be oblivious to this. You guys got a huge
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  Speaker 1: increase with the re-evaluations, the previous re-evaluations. If you would
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  Speaker 1: double a homestead exemption, oh, well, Ron, we don't get
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  Speaker 1: that money back from the state. I don't care. If
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  Speaker 1: you double a homestead exemption and the owner occupancy, you're
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  Speaker 1: only giving a small portion of that increase back to
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  Speaker 1: the citizens. You still get the bulk of the increase, correct?
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, especially from the last revaluation that my graph shows.
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  Speaker 4: It's all still there. You're just essentially foregoing, and this
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  Speaker 4: gets back to the whole concept. If we all agree
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  Speaker 4: that the last six years was wrong, which is a
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  Speaker 4: great way to at least show we can't do that again,
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  Speaker 4: any type of increase.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Give it directly then to the homeowners of a decrease.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pitiful to me, and it says everything about...
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  Speaker 1: It says everything you need to know that the Mahoning
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  Speaker 1: commissioners and Denny Malloy called me on the program and
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  Speaker 1: said he supported all this and was all gung ho
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  Speaker 1: on it. Then he faded away. Somehow, somehow he didn't
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  Speaker 1: achieve it and he didn't do much with it. And
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  Speaker 1: he lost his election bid. I think that's part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason why he lost. Because he didn't champion, had
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  Speaker 1: he taken, in my opinion, had he stepped forward and said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this. I'm not going to back off.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to give in to these school superintendents
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  Speaker 1: and these people to show up who tell me we
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  Speaker 1: can't double the homestead exemption. We can't do the owner occupancy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get another vote out of my fellow
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  Speaker 1: commissioners and I'm going to make this happen. I think
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  Speaker 1: he would have been successful in his election. But he
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  Speaker 1: did not do that. And I think it disappoints people. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: if you look in Mahoning County, Christine Oliver won her race,
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  Speaker 1: and a large part of her campaign was doing these
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  Speaker 1: two issues, basically doubling the homestead exemption and the owner occupancy.
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  Speaker 1: That was a large part of her campaign. And she
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  Speaker 1: championed that, and she won. And she talked about it
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  Speaker 1: last night in her– news conference afterwards that these were
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  Speaker 1: the important issues. I think those issues are game changers
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  Speaker 1: for people running for office or staying in office. Do
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  Speaker 1: you agree?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. And there's three things with that.
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  Speaker 1: Hold those three things. Hold that thought. Don't forget it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to come back with Dave Thomas. I'll get
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  Speaker 1: to your calls. News Radio 570 WKBN. All right, Ron
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  Speaker 1: Ferb with Dave Thomas. Three things that you were going
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  Speaker 1: to mention. Wait a minute, not here. Hang on, hang on,
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  Speaker 1: hang on. There's Dave. Three things you were going to mention.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So this whole conversation kind of highlights three different aspects.
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  Speaker 4: And that first one is the reminder to our voters
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  Speaker 4: and to our taxpayers of the local control aspect to
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  Speaker 4: property taxes. With property taxes being that pure local decision
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  Speaker 4: and our local officials having the control of over when
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  Speaker 4: property taxes go up, they receive, and when they can
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  Speaker 4: go down. So that's why this whole conversation just refocuses that.
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  Speaker 4: But to your point, this also, number two, shows that
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  Speaker 4: pressure of government. So when the schools come to meetings,
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  Speaker 4: when the local governments come to meetings and say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you can't decrease our revenue, you can't impact what could
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  Speaker 4: happen in the future, that pressure applies at the very
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  Speaker 4: local level, all the way up to the governor, which
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  Speaker 4: is why we couldn't force this at the state level,
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  Speaker 4: because again, the governor would only allow us to do
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  Speaker 4: so much. And side note, this is why I'm so
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  Speaker 4: excited for Vivek Ramaswamy and what I think he's going
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  Speaker 4: to bring to the state next year. But that kind
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  Speaker 4: of leads to the third point, which is the actual numbers.
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  Speaker 4: Almost to a T, when I've met with a township
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  Speaker 4: or even a school, a village, I've And I've showed
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  Speaker 4: them their numbers, that graph of how much they increased,
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  Speaker 4: what the piggyback would mean for them next year, and
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  Speaker 4: how much unvoted increase they're getting next year. Almost to
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  Speaker 4: a T, they kind of open their eyes and they realize, well,
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  Speaker 4: this is not as much as what we were hoping
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  Speaker 4: to get in the future. We budgeted for this, but
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  Speaker 4: we're not actually really losing. And that's probably doable given
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  Speaker 4: our cash, given how much we've grown. And that's my
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  Speaker 4: kind of lead to folks is essentially saying no to
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  Speaker 4: unvoted future increases in a way to decrease that tax
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  Speaker 4: bill directly to those who need it most without really
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  Speaker 4: truly cutting as what many local governments fear without looking
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  Speaker 4: at the actual numbers.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to me when I'm talking about the election,
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  Speaker 1: it seems to me those people who didn't put the
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  Speaker 1: taxpayer first, I can only assess from what I see in...
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  Speaker 1: my neck of the woods here. Okay. So if I
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  Speaker 1: go back, if Denny Malloy would have continued to step
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  Speaker 1: to the plate and convinced another commissioner to get money
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  Speaker 1: back to his citizens, if his emphasis would have been
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  Speaker 1: on the taxpayer, not on, on, on all the people
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  Speaker 1: in government saying you can't give the person that's hurting any,
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  Speaker 1: any more than any of their money back. And I,
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  Speaker 1: and I, that's why I think he lost. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's why Christine Oliver lost. One, she ran a
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  Speaker 1: great campaign. She ran a terrific campaign. But the reality
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  Speaker 1: was those were her key talking points. I support both
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  Speaker 1: of these. And if you elect me, obviously there's a
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  Speaker 1: general election. I'm going to champion these things and try
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  Speaker 1: to get them to the finish line. That's the game changer.
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  Speaker 1: If you say we don't care about the pain and
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  Speaker 1: suffering the taxpayers pay and we only care about government,
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  Speaker 1: if that's your message, then you should be rejected by
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the voters.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Comment well that that might be a piece of it
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: but i'll still go back to at the same time
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: when voters are very upset and europe says well i'm
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: upset too over our tax bills we're still actually voting
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: more cases than not to increase them.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Well we're voting for in our neck of the woods
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: it's renewals and listen some of these renewals are necessary
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: until the system is changed but.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Right Your road renewals, for example.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are definitely necessary. Stand by. Back with Dave Thomas.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: We'll take some calls and more coming up. Stay tuned.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: The Sky.
• 19:41
  Speaker 11: News Radio 570.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: WKBN.
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: WKBN.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Here's the annoying part as I was reading the Vindicator article.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Just to bounce off you, Dave Thomas. It's talking about
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Mahoney County Republican primary. Christine Oliver opposed Mahoney County Commissioner's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: decision to not double the homestead exemption and owner occupancy
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: property tax exemption, which is a good thing. I think
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it's why she won. Well, the state reimburses the county
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for the value of the original homestead and owner occupancy
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: tax exemption. The recently passed law that would allow county
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: commissioners to increase those exemptions by as much as double
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: does not provide for reimbursement from Columbus. That's what they
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: use as their excuse to not do it. Even though,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: once again, they still have more money coming in as
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a result of the reappraisals than... the small portion are
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: giving back to the people that are paying it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: And I will probably ask to have this on my gravestone.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Columbus and the state is not some amorphous being out there.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Columbus is you. Still your tax money. And if we
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: continue to subsidize growing and growing property taxes, what we're
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: actually saying is that increase that you just talked about
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: and those spikes, they're completely valid and they need to stay.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: And someone needs to pay for them, and that someone
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: is still you, just through your money that you're sending
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: down to Columbus. So that's why we made the decision
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: not to reimburse and to say that this would actually
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: be true tax reform, which is the government actually getting
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: less in money.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Electricity. Any news there? I mean, as we see our
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: rates double, I mean, I want you to, you go
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: there and I think you're one of the few politicians.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And first of all, you represent the taxpayer kudos to you.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'd vote for you for any office that you would
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: run for because your focus is on the taxpayer. First
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and foremost. Not like the rest of these politicians whining, oh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: what are we going to do? What are we going
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to do? We can't think of the taxpayer first or
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the pain and suffering that they're going through. That is
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: what your focus is on these taxpayers. Well, we can
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: see what's happening with property taxes, but also our electric
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: rates have doubled. So what we used to pay has doubled.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So the consumer, whether it's this temporary bump in gasoline
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: prices or the hike we're paying in natural gas or
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: in electricity or in property taxes or just the inflation,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: we've got a stranglehold on everybody's wallet out there. So
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: what's happening with electricity?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Well, first, you mentioned gas prices. I signed on to
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: a bill that would have a gas tax holiday. been
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: huge spike um the governor came out and put full
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: water on that on monday we're still going to push
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: it i don't know how that's going to look but
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: we've got to do something um second so uh good
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: news is that ohio is like i've told you leading
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: the nation have right now being built roughly seven natural
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: gas power plants we went from having no new power
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: generation no new power plants to Since 2018, in the
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: past eight years, now we're building seven, which is actually
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: once they're fully on. And it's the problem is it's
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: going to take a few years to actually get them there.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: But once they're there, the whole supply and demand thing
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: right now, just from that seven, will be greatly taken
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: care of. And then I'm actually attending a ribbon cutting,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: a perinuclear power plant. I think it's next week. up
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: in Lake County, that's a nuclear power plant. Vistra, who
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: owns the Perry Nuclear Power Plant in Davis-Bessey over in
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Ottawa County, announced expansions of both of those plants in
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: nuclear production. So we're getting even those seven natural gas
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: already within one year of us passing House Bill 15,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: plus an expansion of both of our nuclear, on top
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: of what probably will be coming in the future, too.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: That's news that we just kind of found out about
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: It doesn't help, okay? But it is the fastest step
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: we could have taken year.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: So it won't make a difference next month, but down
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the road, it should make the supply and demand issue.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll go away with that many new plants being
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: put online. My biggest concern, as I said to you,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: is we need diversity when it comes to this. And
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: when we're talking seven additional natural gas plants, that means
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of natural gas to power those plants, which
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I'm troubled by the thought that of that demand for
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: natural gas could drive up your heating cost as far
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: as your natural gas is concerned. It's why I personally
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: support diversity, nuclear, hydro, natural gas, and coal, the main four.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I actually toured a hydroelectric plant in Marietta two weeks ago,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: and it powers 40,000 homes. Constant, renewable, expensive energy Super
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: cool power plant. We have, I can't remember how many
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: of them along the Ohio River. I want to say
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: four or five of them. And that's something that was
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: built in 2016. Probably we'll get another one here as well.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: But I agree with you. We can't just have one. Whole,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I don't think, will be coming back. Our kind of
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: priority is to make sure the current whole plants Don't
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: go away.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And like I emphasized, Obama, Clinton, Biden, Kerry, the green
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: energy people regulated coal plants so heavily to put them
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: out of business. The goal was let's hit them with
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: all these regulations so they can't survive and then mandate
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that they be torn down. So that's why we had
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: these coal plants that were on our grid being torn
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: down because of Obama without anything to replace them. Now, Trump,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: as I believe you said... has changed that totally. You
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: are not allowed to rip down any more coal plants.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: So the people who hate Trump need to understand. Trump
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: said this idea of the green energy and ripping down
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: coal plants with nothing to replace it, and then the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: demand goes up, prices go up. He ended the destruction
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of the coal plants. Accurate?
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Yep. 100%.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: It's not even enough to just say and stop the
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: destruction of the coal plants. We have to build new.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: And that's That's where those seven come in, nuclear, other sources.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: A great example, our grid, it's called the PJM grid,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: have a list of all the new energy coming on
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: board and what's essentially being requested to be added to
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: the grid. Two years ago, they compared the list two
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: years ago versus today. Two years ago, during Biden year,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: over half of that was intermittent energy. renewable, solar, and wind.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: We can't power Kimberly-Clark or the manufacturing plants or the
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: data centers or just our own ocean electricity off of
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: those sources. That's the core reason why our supply and
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: demand is so off now. Today, though, those are down to,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I want to say, 20% to 25%. Now it's much
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: more of your steady, your base load, is what we
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: call it, energy, which is much more predictable, much more efficient.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: And dependable.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: And actually we'll get the electrons here.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And dependable. It's not as iffy. Bottom line.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: And on the natural gas side, I would agree with
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: you of the concern over natural gas prices if we're
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: doing the same thing as previous, which was not actually
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: adding more to the market. But another bill that we passed,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: which Tex Fisher was instrumental in, That's Senate Bill 103.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: That bill opens the floodgates for drilling and for pipelines.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: So we have all the natural gas underneath us. We're
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: just not really taking full advantage of it. It just
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: makes sense to use the natural gas below us to
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: then actually fuel those new natural gas plants. It's kind
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: of a direct feed.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, something... Something's got to get done here. Immediate
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: relief isn't going to happen soon. When it comes to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: these data centers, didn't you pass legislation that says if
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you build one, you've got to supply the power for it?
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: So we introduced it. It's funny you say that. We
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: actually had the undersecretary for energy, number two in energy,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: into Columbus on Monday. Had a small roundtable with him.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: And this was actually the bill and the focus of
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: that roundtable.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Uh..
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Household seven oh six we've had several hearings on it
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: already and exactly it says dash this is what the
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: trump administration actually asking other states to do which is
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: our bill and that says after a data center you
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: can't pass along those costs to the other consumers uh...
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: homeowners the other businesses you've got essentially either build your
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: own power plant which is what trying to push them
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: to do now You've got to eat those costs yourself
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: because we can't afford to keep passing them along to
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: everyone else.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: We're falling kind of right in line with what they're
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: trying to push across the nation.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: And the amount of data centers in Columbus is huge, right?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, we got a lot of them. I don't
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: understand the people that are opposed to them. As I said, listen,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the people that are bitching and opposed to them, every
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: single one of you are going to use them. I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that's the reality. You're not going to fight progress. Every
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: one of you will be using that service. And the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: reality is, and I'll make the argument again, if you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: put a data center, data center, whatever you want to say,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in your community somewhere, and these are huge buildings, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I'm opposed to any state initiative, and I want to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: make this clear, to give any property tax abatement to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: any data center, on a statewide level or any level.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: There should never be a property tax abatement at all.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: But if you build a facility that's that huge, it
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: will absorb a lot of the property tax burden and
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: move it from the homeowner onto that facility. It's not
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a bad thing.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Comment?
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I always tell locals, don't give away the farm or
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: these data centers. Use them to actually lower current residence costs.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: And that's exactly how you can do it. Bring them in.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Shift it to them.
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: They come see you.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 13: They need space.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: They need somewhere to go.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And they need us. They need our weather. They need
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: our transmission lines. We don't have to give them a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: sales tax break. We don't have to give them a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: property tax break. We don't have to do any of
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And the state can't override any of it,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: nor should they be allowed to.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: And the property tax side, as a purely local state,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: decision of what abatements are there. At the state level,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: we had in the budget to remove the exemption for
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: the sales tax. Governor vetoed it. Do not have the
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: 60 votes to override that veto.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully, hopefully, Ramaswamy, if he wins, will change that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, I know he's talked about it. He said the
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: same thing. You know, let's have them here, but let's
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: not let them be here. Let's actually benefit from their presence.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Let's give somebody..
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Here's the dirty secret.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Let's say Hubbard, which is in my district, for example.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Let's say Hubbard were to say, no, we're not going
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: to have a data center in our city or in
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: our township. But then that data center goes into Sharon, Pennsylvania. Well,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: now what actually happens, it's still the same grid. You're
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: still having the same problems. Electricity, wastewater, for example. But
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: who's actually benefiting from the tax base? It's Sharon, Pennsylvania.
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: But who's paying the burden?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: It's Hubbard.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, when I see these people, all these
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: people out there bitching, let's get some amendment against data
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: centers and data centers. We don't want them in this stuff.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I want to scream and say, use your head. You
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: don't understand the electric grid to begin with, but you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: don't understand you're giving away the benefit of the physical
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: structure being there as opposed to it being somewhere else.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Think for God's sakes, politicians. Here's a novel idea. Actually
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: think this through. If you want to put a data
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: center in Austin town where I live, we don't have
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the land. I'm all for it. You want to know why?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Because these huge facilities, then your property tax burden will
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: decrease and a lot has shifted to that large facility.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: It's of benefits to people and you're going to use
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it anyway because And it's beyond me. When I see
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: all of this nonsense from people that have an opinion
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: based on, I don't even know what it's based on,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: just the mob. We're opposed to it. We don't want it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: It's terrible. It's awful. But they'll all use it, and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it's on your same grid. You're just not going to
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: get the tax advantages of it out of sheer stupidity.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: That's just my thoughts. All right, what else do you
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have to add? Because what didn't I cover that you
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: want to let us all know? Dave Thomas.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I think that's in pieces a lot. A lot has
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: happened over the past month. Come back from our recess,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: our election break next week. You're going to see us
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: pass the capital budget. You're going to see us do
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: some more things in energy. Tex Fisher and I actually
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: have another bill that helps manufacturers especially with building their
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: own power. There may be opportunities where a manufacturer comes in,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: you can't actually have a small plant there on site,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: but if they're willing to pay for a plant to
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: come in to offset their electricity, they should be able to.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Right now, we're not allowed. We think that should be changed.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: So things like that that are foundational moving forward. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I do want to talk about, real quick, the election
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: again yesterday.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: And part of my concern... what we saw, which was
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: the turnout. Turnout was about normal. It was about 23% statewide,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: varied county by county. The problem was actually the food
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: turned out. Publican turnout was down tremendously. Democrat turnout was
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: up really high.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Well, for good God, if that could... if Amy Acton
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: is governor of the state of Ohio, God help us.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Or let me just, give me a minute and then
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I'll let you speak. If Amy Acton becomes governor of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio, God help us. And if the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Democrats were in charge, none of the stuff that you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: did that every single citizen of this community and state
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: will benefit from would have happened. Period. Go ahead and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I compare her to the governor of Virginia every day. Um,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: All the new taxes the governor of Virginia is proposing,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: all the craziness that's happening there, the redistricting that's happening there,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: take away all of their Republican congressional seats. She will
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: be actually worse.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when she was the big doctor for
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the state? She quit. She quit because she couldn't take
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the criticism and the pressure. What makes you think that?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. When the going got tough, she
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: got going. And so I'm supposed to say, oh, now
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I want her as governor? Come on.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and she blames the governor. It wasn't her that
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: did all that. It was the governor's choice. But now
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: she wants to be in the governor's seat.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Which is crazy in itself. But the scary thing is that,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: you know, Vivek, the clear mandate, he won over 80%
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: of the votes yesterday. That's almost unheard of. In a
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: governor election where you have a well-funded... opposition as well.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: So clearly, I think we're unified behind him. We've got
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: to get behind him. But it was not that far
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: off per actual votes, despite not even having a primary.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: You compare the total Republicans across the state versus total
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Democrats for voting. It was only the difference of, I
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: want to say, 100,000. Yes, actually less than 100,000.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: We got 762,000 votes.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Combined, Vivek and his opponent got 817.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Hold that thought for one second. Hold on. I'll wrap
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: up with you right after the break. Dave Thomas, state rep.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: You'll learn a lot when he's on. Ron Furb, Kingdom
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: of Mahoning, back in a minute. 70 WKBN. All right,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: 357 with Ron Furb. All right, so go ahead, Dave.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: You were making a point on turnout.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: So that's just kind of my closing is just turnout
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: for Republicans is way down, Democrats way up. Perfect example,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Ashtabula County, 96% of registered Democrats mountain voted versus less
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: than 50% of registered Republicans. That's kind of what we've
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: seen across the state. My district alone, there were 6,000
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: less Republicans who voted than what they did two years ago.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: So if this trend continues, what November could look like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: I know folks are upset. They're disappointed with what's happening
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: It's tough.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: But if we don't get out and vote in November,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the alternative.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Is much worse. All right. So I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have an opponent yesterday in the primary?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: All right. So everything went okay for you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Yep.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, listen, I am a Dave Thomas fan
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: and supporter, as I think many of you are. He's
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Artis Swergen's state rep that I know of in my
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: history in this community that's representing the taxpayer and doing
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: so much will benefit and represent all of us. David,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: thank you for making time. It's good to have you
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: back on now that we got the election season behind us.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And thanks for all you do. Appreciate it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Likewise.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: We'll talk to you soon.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: It's Dave Thomas, state rep, Republican, NewsRadio 570, WKBN and
• 38:33
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• 38:38
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• 38:42
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• 38:50
  Speaker 14: From ABC News, I'm Chuck Sievertson. About Iran, we've got
• 38:54
  Speaker 14: things under control, says President Trump today at the White House.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: We have it very much under control. They want to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: make a deal. We've had very good talks over the
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: last 24 hours. And it's very possible that we'll make
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: a deal. Any deadline?
• 39:08
  Speaker 15: Never a deadline.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: It'll happen. It'll happen, but never a deadline. A key
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: issue the U.S.
• 39:14
  Speaker 14: Wants Iran to hand over its enriched uranium. ABC News
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: senior White House correspondent Selena Wang.
• 39:19
  Speaker 16: This has been a key sticking point for weeks in
• 39:21
  Speaker 16: the U.S. and Iranian negotiations. And Iran has already publicly
• 39:25
  Speaker 16: said before during previous rounds of talks that they will
• 39:29
  Speaker 16: not agree. to export that enriched uranium out of their country.
• 39:34
  Speaker 16: So it remains unclear just how far apart the two
• 39:37
  Speaker 16: sides still are right now.
• 39:38
  Speaker 14: Earlier, President Trump announced that Project Freedom, the U.S. operation
• 39:42
  Speaker 14: to escort ships through the Strait of Hormuz, is being
• 39:44
  Speaker 14: suspended to allow for more peace talks with Iran. Commerce
• 39:48
  Speaker 14: Secretary Howard Lutnick's closed-door interview with the House Oversight Committee
• 39:52
  Speaker 14: on Jeffrey Epstein has ended. Lutnick said earlier that he
• 39:55
  Speaker 14: cut ties with Epstein in 2005, but Justice Department documents
• 39:59
  Speaker 14: showed Lutnick and his family visited Epstein's private island in 2012.
• 40:04
  Speaker 14: After today's hearing, Committee Chair James Comer, Kentucky Republican.
• 40:07
  Speaker 17: The only thing that I had seen that Lutnick did
• 40:10
  Speaker 17: wrong was wasn't 100% truthful on the brief visit to
• 40:14
  Speaker 17: the island with his family. He corrected that in his
• 40:17
  Speaker 17: opening statement.
• 40:18
  Speaker 14: Congressman Ro Khanna, California Democrat.
• 40:20
  Speaker 15: If you saw the exchanges that my colleagues had with him,
• 40:23
  Speaker 15: you would see he made a force of the English language.
• 40:28
  Speaker 14: The Dutch cruise ship, which health officials say has some
• 40:30
  Speaker 14: cases of hantavirus, is off West Africa, now headed to
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: Spain's Canary Islands.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Three people aboard died.
• 40:37
  Speaker 14: Ted Turner, the cable news pioneer, TV mogul, sports team owner,
• 40:41
  Speaker 14: yacht racer, and much more has died at 87. listening
• 40:45
  Speaker 14: to abc news.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: We're back at it news radio 570 wkbn and ron
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: verb welcome to a wednesday afternoon cloudy out there boy
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: does it feel like may 6 to you doesn't to
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: me it's wednesday may 6 407 in the afternoon it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: cloudy 56 degrees what a ton of rain we had
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: yesterday in my neck of the woods at my weather
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: station at verb manor yesterday and today had an inch
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of rain So isn't that something? I mean, on top
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: of all the rain that we've had so far, everything's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: so saturated, then you throw that onto it, everybody's yard
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: is a swamp these days. Anyway, welcome here to a
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon with you till 7 tonight at 330-729-9977. Ted
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the Conservative, welcome. Ronald, how are you, sir? Good, congratulations.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: You know, Christine Oliver, big victory, actually, last night. I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: thought she ran the best campaign, quite frankly. I thought
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: she ran an excellent campaign. And she was front and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: center out there on those two very important issues.
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: Yes, yes.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I think she ran the only individual in that race,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I think, that ran a legitimate campaign. She had a
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: grassroots effort. She had a lot of volunteers. And she
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: did well raising money, and she did it without loaning.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: She didn't have to loan her campaign money. Unlike Shepas,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I think Shepas raised half his money and he gave
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: himself a loan for the other half. I mean, you
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: and I knew there were only two worthy candidates in
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: that race, and I thought it would be closer than
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: it was, to be honest with you. I thought Shepas,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I thought it would be a little bit tighter, but
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I think the difference, to be honest with you, when
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: it came to her, was the work, the effort she
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: put in by her campaign people, by the grassroots effort,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: and the biggest thing is that she went door-to-door, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: You know, in today's world, you don't see that very often.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: That's how I just happened to meet her living in
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Columbiana on the Mahoning County side. She was knocking on doors,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: and I think that was a big factor for people.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: You know, it's that 30-second interaction, and you make people
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: feel like they're worthy to know who you are, and
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: they appreciate that because the voter knows that the candidate
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: needs their support. So, you know, sometimes I think people,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: they want the reward. They want that, you know, they
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: want that golden star, whatever it might be. They want
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: that reward, but they don't want to put the work in.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, you saw it clearly in
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: that race, I think. And then you look at some
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: of the other races, and I agree with Dave. My
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: biggest concern last night was watching turnout. And The Republican Party,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I think, I don't have the numbers in front of me.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I looked at them last night. But I think if
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: you look at the judge races with Rivera and Monorelli,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: and then you look at the county commissioner races, those
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: two races, they did have a lot of activity in them.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: They were comparable to the races on the Democrat side.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: If you look at those numbers, maybe the Democrat judicial
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: races pulled in maybe 1,000 more voters. So I'm a
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: little confused by the disparity in the Democrat number that
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: came up. I think about 5,300 Democrats in Mahoney County
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: and maybe 2,300 Republicans, something like that. But the vote
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: totals don't resemble that. So, you know, we've got a
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: lot of work to do now. This was the easy part.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: And now you've got to win the general election. And
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, individually it starts with us locally.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: We have a chance to have two Republicans sitting on
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: the board of the county commissioners. chance to have the
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: first ever female Republican on the board. We have a
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: good candidate. I think she's worked hard. She'll continue to
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: work hard. I really believe Rivera can pull it off
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: and he can win and get another Republican judge there.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: But then we've got to start looking outside of our circle,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: and we've got to look at the state of Ohio.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I hear a lot of infighting in the Republican Party,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: and it's starting to bother me. I think starts at
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: the top with a lot of these podcasters, whether it's,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just call her crazy Candace Owens at
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: this point because she will say anything to get someone
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: to click on her social media because that's how she
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: gets paid. That's how these folks get money. They had
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: advertisers and the more clicks and hits they get, the
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: more money they make. I mean, that's why you hear
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: her talking about, you know, she's throwing out this idea
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: that Charlie Kirk's wife had him murdered. and you get
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: that recalls you know what type of first one of
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: our party was doing well i think he'd be he's
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: just gone off the edge far-right same thing and what
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: they're doing internally is what we saw the democrats we
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: saw the democrat party split in half with the far-left
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: progressive in the moderate and i'm worried that that's going
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: to happen with the republican party and just look at
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: a local you look at the commissioners with look to
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: me one of the reasons i spoke up with i
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: got i don't like Don't tell me what's bad about
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: the other candidate. Tell me why I should vote for you.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: We saw in that commissioner's race that people just attacked
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Christine every day instead of telling us why we should
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: vote for them. And if we don't now come together
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: and support our candidates, and especially at the governor's race,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I sent you some information yesterday, the bank was neck
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: and neck. Now he's on those polling markets. He's five
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: points behind. The betting market is putting their money on
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Amy Atkin, which I don't understand how you could make
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: wagers on political offices like this. It's not something I'm
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: familiar with, but it's pretty accurate and people do it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: So the Republican Party has got a lot of work
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: to do, and it's going to start locally. Hopefully people
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: can come together now that the dust has settled and
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: get behind our local candidates, get them elected. I think
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: we have good candidates for the party now. We made
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: it through the primaries. We've got a big issue now.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: We've got to win the state of Ohio. We cannot
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: afford for a low turnout to let Amy Acton be
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: governor and to lose the progress we're making at the
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: local levels, especially the county commissioners. We've got a candidate
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: who's told us where she stands. There's no guessing. And
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: she's running against McNally, who has told us that she
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: will not reduce taxes. She will fight to raise your taxes.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: And she thinks she knows how to spend your money
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: better than you do, Ron. Right. And, you know, and
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: so we can disagree. We cannot maybe have the same
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: opinions or under one umbrella. And that's the Republican Party.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: And we've got to stick together now or else McNally
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: will walk in. It'll be the same. The same practices
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: we saw from Carol Rigetti. continued with McNally because she
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: was appointed basically by Carol to fill that.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, I would, I get the impression that, uh,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: if Christine Oliver is successful in a general election, she
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: at least it will be a champion of those two issues.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Unlike Gino, she'll make those a priority and, and try
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: to get something done there. That's the difference.
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: I agree.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I agree completely. I think she will lead that charge.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: She said she would. You know, you could only take
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: someone at their word. And she has been very vocal
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: about this. I don't see how she would backtrack from
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: everything that she said. If you saw her on the
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: news last night, you know, that's the thing she beat on.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I think Geno, and due respect for Geno, I think
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: he's in a hard position. He's got two people that
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: are hard-nosed.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Listen, I don't cut him a break like that. And
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: here's why. If you believe in it, you should be
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: fighting for it now to convince one of those other two.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: You should not concede.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: You need two people to even get it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's convinced on it. You know, I'm sorry.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I do not cut Gino a break in that sense.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I think she will fight for it and try to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: make it happen.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: And I think she will bring Gino to the table.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I would certainly hope so. him fighting for that issue
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I hear him making excuses well what about all these
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: people that we need to help and we're not going
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: to get reimbursed for the state it's one reason after
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the other why he's not for it so he's not
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: for it He's not out there trying to convince traffic,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: can he, or Carol Righetti. As I've said a gazillion times,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Carol Righetti is a senior citizen. But she's so out
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: of touch with senior citizens because she has, what, a
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: retirement when she worked for the city and a $ 100, 000
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: a year paycheck plus coming in from being county commissioner.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Her economics is so out of touch with other senior
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: citizens on Social Security and fixed incomes. She thinks the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: answer is another government program. It isn't letting people keep
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: more of their money when it comes to taxes. I mean,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: her whole thought process is just so outdated and bizarre.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Good riddance to her. I mean, and to replace her
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: with somebody with that same mentality, you're smothering and you're
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: hurting the productive taxpaying citizen. By God, stop taking their money.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: And giving it to everybody else. Let them keep their money.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: You're making their lives too difficult. That should be your emphasis.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I think Oliver has that emphasis. I think Geno's lost
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: his focus. And I think Traffic Annie is just..
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: Dr.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Kenny and Carol, you have to remember, they're two birds
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: of the same feather. So they're a hard no, just
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: like McNally.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know that they're a hard no. We shall see.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I think they're a hard no, or we would see
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: some action. I mean, they don't tell us anything because
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: they don't think we deserve to know how they think.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: But I really believe that when she gets in there,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I think she can bring Geno to the table and
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: they'll get something done. At least there's a chance. Right.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: If there is a chance, if she wins, that we
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: have two Republicans that will do that. We know we
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: have one that is very supportive of it. Gino is
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: getting there, in my belief.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Well, we shall see.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: We'll wait and see. But, you know, something else that
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I was shocked at listening to your program yesterday. Well,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: I also got to tell you, I signed a petition
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: to get the ballot issue approved. Step forward, would you
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: call it the property? Repeal the property tax.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I signed the ballot. It's official. However, it doesn't mean
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: that I'm ready to say, yes, let's burn it up.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Let's blow it up. Because I'm really confused. I believe
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: you're supportive of abolishing property taxes. I think I could
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: be wrong. I don't want to speak for the great
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: one now. That's your chair you sit in.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Well, there's positives and negatives about it. Make no mistake,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: because if we abolish property taxes, I don't want to
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: let Home Depot and Walmart off the hook and shift
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: their burden to the individual. You follow me? Exactly. So
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: this has to be thought out. If we do away
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: with that... I don't want them to say, well, now
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: we pay nothing, and now Joe Bagadonis and Joni Pepperoni
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: have to pay everything. So I want to be careful
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: If they abolish this right now with no plan in place,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: the working man's going to get drilled.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: You know, there's no other way to say it. I'm
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: not going to be that negative on it. I mean,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: you have to see what progresses. I am highly disappointed...
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: There's many variables. If Vivek, I guess is the proper way.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: If he becomes governor, things can be dramatically improved. And
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: if the Republicans stay in charge, I think things can
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: dramatically improve as far as easing the burden of property taxes,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: particularly school taxes. So there's many balls in the air
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: on this whole thing. But if they continue to ignore...
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the payer, which seems to be the M.O. currently, for
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the most part, then to hell with them, then you
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: have to get rid of it. Because at that point,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: they're just abusing you as a taxpayer. I hate to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: quote G2, sometimes you've got to blow it up to
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: fix it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. Sometimes you have to do that,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: and it's a scary thing, because you better have a
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: plan the next day. You know, unlike you, I voted
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: no yesterday. I can't tell you the last time I
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: voted yes on a tax issue.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Because that's the only power we have. Well, that also depends.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: The only power I have as a voter is to
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: say no.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Well, that depends what was on your ballot. Your ballot
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: might be different from my ballot. I had one issue.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, here's the thing. I voted for the–
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: that's a sales tax. It's a quarter percent sales tax,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: and you do not notice it at all. It's a
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: quarter percent sales tax. A large portion of it is
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: paid for by people who don't live here. And it
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: raises $ 10 million a year for Pat Giannetti, all going
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: to roads within your township and– Your county. In my
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: 41 years, I've never seen more road work done than
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: has been done by him. It's not going to raises
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: or any of that stuff. He's lived up to what
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: he said it would be used for, and he's continuing
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: to do that with $ 10 million a year. And by
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the way, hang on. Hang on. I'm not done yet.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: If we can get oil prices down, that means... He
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: can even do more road miles because asphalt is an
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: oil product. You follow me? If oil is high, it
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: limits how many you can do. You're still doing more,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: but if you bring it down, he can do even more.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: But the engineer's office budget hasn't changed for decades. And
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: it was frustrating for him that he couldn't report or
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: repair a lot of roads that needed it badly that
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: have been not touched for 20, 30 years. So that
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: was something was a no brainer to me to vote
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: for it. Now, when you talk about that, as I
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: said to Dave Thomas, the roads are important to me.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: It's one of the things that I use every day.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: And in a nice infrastructure here. I live in Austintown Township.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: These renewals for my road departments and the roads in
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: my township, I voted to continue those renewals because that's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: for my township roads. I'm not going to cut my
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: own throats. Stand by, Ted. Just stand by. I want
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: to finish my thoughts with Ted. Then I get to
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: more of your calls. News Radio 570 WKBN and Ron Furb.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Radio 570 WKBN. Let's see, Ted the Conservative. So I
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: voted for my renewals of my road tax in the township.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want lousy roads. There is no easy answer
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: to that. You've got to keep in mind when it
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: comes to taxes, some of the things you pay your
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: taxes for are worth it. They're not free. Police are
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: not free. Fire is not free. Roads and maintaining them
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: isn't free. I need a road department to plow them.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I need them to be potholes fixed and roads to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: be repaved. I've never seen a county engineer do more
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: than this one we have in Mahoning County. And that
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: money is in addition to the money that the township
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: would already spend on roads. Can you imagine what your
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: roads would be like if that quarter percent sales tax
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't renewed or you didn't pass the renewals in your community?
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: And so... I'm not upset with people renewing taxes for roads.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: And even if I look at some of the stuff,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: and I haven't looked it over, I understand and I
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: cannot complain if people vote some additional millage for their
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: police departments. Because everyone should be concerned about crime and
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: police response time. You need a... a fire truck to
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: show up, you need a fire department, and equipment replaced.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: You saw that house explosion.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: No, they do not, because that's going to be my
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: one exception. Because you definitely need a fire department and
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: equipment and a police department for crime. These are emergency services,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the key word, emergency services and ambulances. Those things are
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: all vitally important. When it comes to school systems, they
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: are not emergency services. And I do believe that the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: state should be paying for your school systems. I don't
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: believe it should be based on your property taxes. So
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: you're going to have a hard time convincing me of that,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: particularly in a community where I live.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: It's not only school districts, even though they get the
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: lion's share, but you're talking about the emergency services you
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: spoke of.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I don't vote for the library levy. I wouldn't vote
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to renew it. I will not vote for any school
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: levies after a $ 15 million athletic complex was built. I'm
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: done with all of that. The school tax has got
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: to be more absorbed by the state. I agree with
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Pleschnik on that. And I believe the state should be
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: covering that with your state tax dollars. End of story.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I agree. But here's the only thing I want to hear.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: But when you call a cop, you want somebody to
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: show up. When you call a fire truck like that
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: house explosion, Gerard, you want somebody to show up.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: You want someone there, exactly. But we keep saying, well,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: we'll vote for this, we'll vote for that. So every
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: additional levy, eventually... Prior to that levy ever coming into existence,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: hold some money from that general fund. I'm not saying
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: like the engineer's office. They're primarily state gas tax. fuel tax.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: License plates.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Registration fees. Your permissive motor tax.
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: And then they get grants and that kind of stuff.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: His budget was the same for years.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: So the matching funds would come from the general fund.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: So my point is, while we keep approving all these
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: additional taxes, we're taking the same thing with the criminal
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: justice system. Pass a separate tax for that. OK, well,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: now we're taking we're less than the burden on a
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: general fund. And they take that money and blow it elsewhere.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: So the more you give them, the more you keep
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: feeding a lion, the more it eats. And that's why
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: I give vote no on everything. That's the only power
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you can do that. I think we need to be.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Honest with you. Instead of an abolishment movement, it'd be
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: nice to see something at the state level reform-wise. Because
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: like you said, school districts are the problem.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: The only thing I would say, and I've got to pause, Ted,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you've got to think each issue through and give each
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: one individual thought. I thank you, and I'll be right back.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: NewsRadio 570 WKVN. NewsRadio 570 WKVN.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Hello. How are you doing this afternoon?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Good, sir.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: Hey, they're talking about a lot of these levies on
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: the schools not getting through and everything. How is it
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: our state was taken to court 30-plus years ago about
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: the Constitution of the state of Ohio about making money
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: to give to the schools so they could operate? How
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: is it we could still give $ 600 million for a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: football stadium and spend $ 1 billion on charter school systems.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: That's $ 1. 6 billion that could be allocated out to the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: schools that are hurting in the state of Ohio. But
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: yet we're going to spend money that way just to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: get rid of the.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 13: Teachers' unions?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think it has anything to do with the teachers' unions.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I think it has to do with how, for example,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: and I've got to get Pleschnik back on the program
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: because he's a tax lawyer and a Duke graduate of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: law school. But I hear people talk a lot about
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: this decision that was made years ago. I think you
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: brought it up, right, as far as funding of Ohio schools?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: Yes, I did, several occasions.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear people bring it up all the time,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and I... I put this out there, and you can
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: read it for yourself. Let me give you my brilliant
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: legal opinion, all right? Are you ready?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: Oh, is there going to be a test later?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, you need a feather pen to write it down,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: all right? I'm going to give you..
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: No, I can't. Go ahead, but I'll try to catch up.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll try not to talk over your head.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: Hey, let me take a deep breath.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Take a deep breath. Relax. Basically, that decision, from a
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: legal standpoint... says we have got to have equal funding
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: for schools. For example, what changed was the amount of
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: state dollars that went to poor districts. Because part of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: the argument was that kids that were born in districts
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: that were poor didn't get a very good education because
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: the local funds weren't there to support their education. And
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: that's when everybody was getting like the same amount of
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: money from the state and a district. Okay. Follow me
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: so far. So, okay. So what, what that decision said was, well,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: we're not going to give as much money to Canfield
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: because that's a wealthier community and they can pay for
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: their schooling more through their property taxes versus how much
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: state money goes to the city of Youngstown or pick
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: whatever area in the state. So it, it basically redistributed
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: how the state pool of money was, was distributed among
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: school districts so that students could get, one would, the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: argument was a fair education or fair opportunities as opposed
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: to that not being a case. That's how from a,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: legal standpoint, how I understood that decision. And I would
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: have to, I would really, I got to, like I say,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: I got to get Pleschnik on, you know, he's went
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: to Duke Law School. So I want to find out
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: if he interprets it the same way. I would like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: to know what his thoughts are about it, but that's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: how I interpret that decision. I hear a lot of
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: misconceptions over the years. People always say, well, the lottery
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: money was supposed to go to the schools. And the
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: state did this. I was This is a great thing.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: You're no spring chicken. I was around when the lottery started.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I was around when they said about all this kind
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: of stuff. Well, what happened with the lottery is all
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that money did go to the schools. But the exact
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: amount of money that was going to the schools through
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: the general fund then didn't go to the schools. You
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: follow me? It wasn't a net gain for the school system.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: They didn't get additional money from the lottery. They just
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: stopped funding it out of the general fund, the state.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: And so it was kind of a wash. Where if
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you look in Georgia, when Georgia did the lottery, Georgia,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: that was additional money going to the school system. So
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: what that meant in Georgia was they had pre-kindergarten classes.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: They had that if anybody got a B average and
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: graduated high school, you could go to a university in
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Georgia for free. Follow me? I mean, there were benefits
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: that you could see as a result of additional money
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: coming from the lottery.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: Can you stop a second, though?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: If I may.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I'm taking questions.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: You in the front row with your hand up?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, my ink well went out of ink with my feathers.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes. Anyhow. Yes.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: Here we go. I think the problem in the school
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: districts is not just the school district's fault. How did
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: your kids... Okay, I'm just going to assume... Your kids
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: are doing well out there now only because you kept
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: saying get an education. You put your time in to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: make sure that your children, instead of out there playing
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: around and farting around and doing absolutely nothing, were actually
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: getting an education. Hey, let's see that report card. Whoa,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: you got an F on Arkansas.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Well, you bring up– right. I agree with that point.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you fix that. I've said this before.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, my mother was a school secretary, okay? So
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: when I was in high school, she knew what my
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: test grade was before I knew what it was. You
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: follow me?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy, I feel sorry for you.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: You know, you should feel sorry for me because if
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't do well– My mother would say to me,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: did you have a test in algebra yesterday? And, you know,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: this was like a police interrogation. And I remember saying, hmm,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I know she knows the answer to the question that
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: she's asking me. And I said, well, yes, I did.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: And then she would say, I don't remember you studying
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: very hard for that last night. And then you'd be
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: hanging there. And she'd say, well, maybe that's why you
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: got a C or a D or whatever on that test.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: I understand it because my dad was the same way.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: All right, because, I mean, she— I went to Port Carter.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: And said, what?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: And then I get biffed up alongside the back of
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: the head, and okay.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Right, but, I mean, she just— so you knew the pressure
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: you under. But, like I said, the quote of the day,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I've given it for years. My father would always say,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: and I say this to all of you out there
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: and tell your kids this, all men are created equal
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: until the first school bell rings and then the race
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: is on.
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  Speaker 6: That's a good one.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: So remember that all men are created equal. You can
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: say all people are created equal to the first school
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: bell rings. Then the race is on there. If I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: would have went to my mother and father and said,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to drop out of high school. Do you
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: think that option existed in our household? Do you think
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: that that existed that they would say, Oh, okay, no problem.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: My mother would say like, hell you are. And my,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: that option, you couldn't even approach it. That option didn't
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: even exist. As a matter of fact, Just based on
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: the time, if I would have went to my mother
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: and father and said, I want to drop out of college,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: that option didn't exist. You follow me?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: I understand. Mine would have been, well, you'll be up
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: at 5 o'clock tomorrow morning. We've got a lot of
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: work to do.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: No, the option didn't even exist. Don't even approach it
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: because it didn't exist with my father or my mother.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Those are called expectations. Now, with my own children, my
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: wife deserves all the credit. When they got stuck on
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: math or something, my wife took them at that time
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: to Sylvan, paid additional money to get them tutoring. Because
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: if you get stuck in some of the advanced math,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: All you've got to do is understand that little bit
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: to get over that hurdle, and it'll all fall in line.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: You follow me?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: I follow you all 100% because I had that problem
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: with my one son, and now he looks at me
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: and he starts talking, and I'm going, what in the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: hell are you talking about? I'm used to 2 plus 2.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: You're right. But see..
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: 12 squared is 12 squared, but now they've got so many...
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: My sixth... One granddaughter was in eighth grade, and her
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: and I were going through this math thing, and I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: figured the answers out. But when she turned it in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: the teacher, the teacher turned right around and said, that's
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: not how I told you to do it. So she
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: got a D, I mean, just for the fact that
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: she tried it. It took her six weeks to teach
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: me how to do that math.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Right, but this is how education works. works and I
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: am in total agreement with you. I don't know how
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: you fix parents. I mean, there were so many things
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: that didn't apply in our household. You could not smoke cigarettes.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: You weren't going to do a lot. There were just
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: rules and they weren't negotiations. This was the way it
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: was going to be. So when I look at my
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: own kids and when your children grow up and you
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: look at your children and you say, they're smarter than
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you are and they're better at everything than you are.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Then I think as a parent, you achieved what a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: parent should achieve. If you can raise your kids to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: be smarter than you do things better than you, then you,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: then as a parent, you've succeeded at that, because that's,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: that is what your goal. You want them to be
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: better than you. You want them to, you want to
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: make sure that your sacrifices are, financially, and every other
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: way will benefit their life and maybe even make their
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: life a little easier so they can have more free
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: time and enjoy themselves more than you did or perhaps
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: your parents did by working constantly so that they can
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: enjoy some of that and still have good financial sense
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: about them. If you can achieve that as parents, mothers,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: and fathers, you are... a success. And you know that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: old line, my friend, the older I got, the smarter
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: my parents got, was 100% true.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I can remember I was having problems
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: in eighth grade with..
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Your sexuality, I bet. You didn't know if you were
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: a man or a woman.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: My part was angles, you know, geometry and stuff like that, dances,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: you gotta do this, you gotta do that. See how
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: the book says it? Do it this way, do it
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: that way. I just couldn't hang it. I tried and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: I tried and I guess I got over... and frustrated.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: But we lived out in the country. We could get
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: three television channels. But on certain days, we could get four.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: But the only way to get that was to go
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: out there with a 14-inch pipe wrench and turn the antenna. Sir,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: that's your angle. You've got to remember you've got to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: have the angle.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: And it's just to see. Listen, from the time when
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I went to school to college, Today, I mean, math
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: hasn't changed. English hasn't changed. I just think parents, but
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I would ask this to you because I agree with
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: your point. When I went to school, most kids didn't
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: come from a divorced home. Most of them had the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: same name as their parents. And most of them had
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: a mother, a home intact. And most of it was
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: pretty similar on all cases. So Part of the problem
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: is there's too much divorce. There's too much... I don't
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: think the distractions that kids had... It's just a lot
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: harder raising kids today, I think, than it was when
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: we were kids.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: I understand what you're saying. I appreciate it. And as
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: far as your city goes, Ted the Conservative, I'd have
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: been mad too. Because you want to know something? I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: was always taught that if you go to the bathroom
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: and you're to go number one, it's best to sit
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: down so you don't make a mess all over the place.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, me too. There you go. Okay, thank you, my friend.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Easy does it with that. All right, you're on the air.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 13: Hello.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's Rhett and Butler.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 10: Do you mind if I change the subject?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: No, sir.
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  Speaker 6: Just a little bit, please.
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  Speaker 1: Freedom of speech here on NewsRadio 570 WKBN, so speak
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  Speaker 1: your piece.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, just could I change the subject a little bit
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  Speaker 10: to national interest?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I said okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple years.
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  Speaker 10: Ago I started following this shipping, and I noticed something
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  Speaker 10: interesting that the audience could probably sort of check out themselves.
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  Speaker 10: With the shipping and the Hormuz, the Strait of Hormuz,
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  Speaker 10: So if you go to, and this G2 might be
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 10: interested in this, if you go to marinetraffic.com and move
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  Speaker 10: your cursor over to the Strait of Hormuz, you'll see
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: that there are container ships, tankers, and bulk shipping going
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 10: all through the Strait right now. So, I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 10: not sure what's going on over there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: You're sure what's if you watch the news. you understand
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  Speaker 1: that they're being escorted by the United States military, that
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: the blockade in the military is taking control to make
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: sure the ships can now get through it, and they
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: have been going through there without fear of being attacked.
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  Speaker 10: As of right now, that's been postponed. It's no longer
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  Speaker 10: in effect until Operation Freedom or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. That has been put on hold, but
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  Speaker 1: the Situation as far as getting ships through the strait
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: has not been put on hold. That is continuing. I
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: think those are two separate things. Dow surges 600 points.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: S & P 500 post first close above 7,300 as
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: traders hope for a raw deal. But, I mean, they
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: paused the bombing and this kind of stuff. But getting
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: traffic moving through the strait is still going on with
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: the assistance of the military. And yesterday– was it yesterday
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  Speaker 1: or the day before– where they destroyed those uh... small
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: boats where they were coming with uh... machine guns and
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: they wiped him right out so that part is not
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: curtailed they want to make sure all the ships that
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: have been out there for months can get moving and
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: get to their destination.
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  Speaker 10: And that was just sort of my second quick point uh...
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 10: so i was speaking with some uh... or couple relatives
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 10: of mine navy officers uh... just on something that was
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 10: bothering me last night uh... with the cia involved and uh..
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  Speaker 6: Uh..
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  Speaker 10: Centcom and the u.s. navy i mean for six weeks
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 10: now that it's hard for me to believe with satellite
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 10: and everything else that they don't have complete control of
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 10: that area man you know i mean the people i
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 10: talk to you know they're not directly involved but uh...
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: i mean could it's beyond belief to me that with
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 10: satellite centcom u.s. navy etcetera All of those assets, I mean,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 10: those swift boats don't just come out of like, you know, nowhere.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I would think that they could identify, that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 10: should have been identified a long time ago and just
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 10: taken out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they were taken out yesterday when they started to
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: make movements. But it's clear that that is what is
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: working right now and getting traffic through. Think of how
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: long that those ships and those sailors have sat out
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: there at sea worried for months about having fresh water
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: and food and what you need to survive on a
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: ship like that. And those needs weren't being met. And
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: it's really the United States that has said, okay, we're
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: going to try to meet some of those needs and
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: get these ships moving. And it's because of America, United
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: States and the Trump administration, why that's happening. Listen, I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: couldn't be happier if we can reach an agreement here
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: and get this thing behind us. and get oil prices
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: down and the economy booming. That would be a happy day.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 10: One of the things that got me interested in the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 10: shipping a couple of years back was I sort of dabbled.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: I took a little dip into one of Frank's picks.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 10: He was really high on something called Zim Integrated Shipping.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 10: So in April of, let's see here, 22, I bought
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 10: 500 shares for that at like 72, I think. And
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: within by early summer of 23, it was at 15.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 10: So that's a 70% drop. And, you know, I ordered
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 10: some things, you know, shipping things. I've been following. It's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 10: not about him. That's just one of the things that I,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 10: you know.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: Sort of got me.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Well, did you hang on to it?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: Actually, I sold it.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: I took the loss.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Why would you do that? I mean, listen, I'm not
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: here to give you financial advice. Do not sell when
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: you're at a loss like that. Hang on to it
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: because a stock that could soar after the straight is open.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Hang on, all right? Just hang on. You never sell
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: low and buy high. It's the other way around. Hang on, caller.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back to you. Yeah, you don't sell
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: at a loss. You might as well sit on it
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: because it can turn around. Where's the stock today?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 10: It's about 27 today. And it could go up even more.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 10: I needed the loss. I mean, I had some gains.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 10: I had a bunch of gains. So I took about
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 10: a $ 27, 000 loss on that, took the $ 8, 000 or so
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 10: that was left and put it into Corning Glass, which
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 10: I already had a position in. And I'm up 220%
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: on Corning Glass.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 18: Wow.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 10: You know, the thing is, it was a yield hog situation.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 10: I mean, I used to be in the business.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: We used to call.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 10: People who go for yields, yield hog. And, you know,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 10: I stay away from that. The Zim was a yield
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: hog situation. As advertised at like 70, I was a 12% yield,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: and I should have known better. Because, I mean, we
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: used to kind of laugh at like what we.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: Call yield hogs.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 10: You know, I mean, usually when you get a real
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 10: high yield, especially on something like a shipping company, you're
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 10: going to get handed your head at some point.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 9: But, yeah, you're right.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: You're right about the loss.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: I agree with that.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 10: I just needed the loss because I had some gains
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 10: and some ETFs.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just trying to help you out.
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  Speaker 3: That's all.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 10: Hey, it was a big loss. I mean, you know,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: $ 30, 000 is $ 30, 000. I mean, you know, I'm sure Frank's,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 10: you know, I'm sure a lot of his picks are
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 10: really good.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind he knows what he's
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: talking about. I mean, I don't question that.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, my bad luck on, you know, jotting that one down.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: No, your bad luck on selling too soon.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I got 220% on the courting. So, I mean,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: I'm up. You know, I'm overall up.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to let him know. I'm going to let
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: him know. Go ahead.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: Thanks for the time.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your input, and I hope you call again.
• 1:19:25
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  Speaker 19: From ABC News.
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  Speaker 20: I'm Lindsay Davis, anchor of Prime, streaming weeknights on ABC
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  Speaker 20: News Live. Optimism, but with no details from President Trump
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  Speaker 20: about a peace deal with Iran at the White House
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  Speaker 20: this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: We have it very much under control.
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  Speaker 19: The president also saying of Iran.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: They want to make a deal. We've had very good
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: talks over the last 24 hours. And it's very possible
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: that we'll make a deal.
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  Speaker 19: A key issue, the U.S.
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  Speaker 20: Wants Iran to hand over its enriched uranium, but Iran
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 20: has publicly said before during previous talks that they will
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 20: not agree to do that.
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  Speaker 19: ABC's Selina Wang.
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  Speaker 16: All of this as the Strait of Hormuz still remains
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 16: at a virtual standstill. Only two ships ended up crossing
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 16: through the Strait through Project Freedom as more than 1,500
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 16: remain stranded. And the ceasefire remains tenuous with Iran having
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 16: fired on U.S. Navy ships that have been enforcing the
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 16: blockade and those ships. Firing back.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 20: Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick was interviewed behind closed doors by
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 20: the House Oversight Committee about Jeffrey Epstein. Republican Committee Chair
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• 1:21:28
  Speaker 20: that he and his family did visit Epstein's Island in 2012.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 20: Here's Democrat Ro Khanna.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 15: If Donald Trump had seen the video transcript, he would
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 15: have fired Howard Lutnick. It was really embarrassing. He was
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 15: asked very straightforward questions. about whether he regretted misleading the
• 1:21:49
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  Speaker 20: The Dutch cruise ship, which health officials say has some
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 20: cases of hantavirus, is off West Africa heading to Spain's
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  Speaker 20: Canary Islands for next steps in managing the outbreak, says
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• 1:22:06
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  Speaker 8: Hi, Ron.
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  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: I'm well. Thank you for calling.
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  Speaker 8: A couple things that I was hearing on here. I'm moderate, Elaine.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: I'm the one that tries to look at both sides
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: of things when I want to make an opinion about something.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: One thing that's bothersome is this idea when You know,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 8: Dave Johnson was on earlier, and it was like, oh,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: my God, look at the governor of Virginia.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 13: Look at the governor of Virginia.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Not Dave Johnson, Dave Thomas. Stay right.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: You're right. I apologize.
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  Speaker 18: I apologize.
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  Speaker 8: And, I mean, I know you've done searches. If you
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 8: look at right now, guess how many tax laws she
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: has passed for increasing taxes since she became in office?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Zero.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: Zero.
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  Speaker 1: She's relatively new, but she's made it clear what she
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: wants to do and where she wants to go.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: But nothing has happened yet. And the legislators have offered
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 8: up and passed almost 50 different types of laws or whatever.
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  Speaker 8: She is not acting on any of them. The only
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 8: thing she's passed is to change the Daughters of the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 8: American Revolution's tax status. That's the only thing she's done.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 8: So I guess I would just say that at some point...
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 8: If she does do something, whatever, then that's a point
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 8: to criticize her. But at this point, she has done nothing.
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  Speaker 1: All right, but moderate Elaine, stand by for a second.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Here you go. I'll read it right off my screen.
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  Speaker 1: As of early May 2026. I think that's now. Would
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: you not agree, moderate Elaine? I love that name, incidentally.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: That's your new nickname, moderate Elaine.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I know Ted the Conservative got one. I would
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 8: like to have one.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, moderate Elaine. Like Elaine Venice on Seinfeld. Moderate Elaine. Exactly.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: As of early May 2026, moderates, several tax increases and
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: new tax proposals are being debated or implemented in Virginia,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: largely driven by the Democrat-controlled General Assembly 2026 legislative session.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Key proposals focus on high earners, investment income, and specific
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: services alongside local tax hikes in certain areas.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 11: Do you know what that area is?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Some of it is property.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: Taxes on fitness groups. Taxes on fitness clubs.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Or something like that. Do we want to get to
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: where we tax everything? You can't justify by saying when
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: you're expanding taxes on more stuff, you still end up
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: paying more taxes. Let me give you an example. Years
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: ago in the state of Ohio... You never paid sales
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: tax on services, plumbers and that kind of stuff. You
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: follow me? And that changed to where they said, oh,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: now sales tax applies to services. So if you get
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: a service with, incidentally, do you want to know what
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: the one exception is? I'm going to let you guess.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: There's one exception to one service you don't get charged
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: a sales tax on. What do you bet that service is?
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  Speaker 9: Prostitution.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: Prostitution. No.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Prostitution. Well, it's kind of like prostitution. Are you ready?
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Legal services.
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  Speaker 5: It could be, depending upon which side you.
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  Speaker 13: End up on.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the only service that you don't get a
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: sales tax on, those no-good rats. Proposed expansion of the
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: retail sales and use tax to include a wide range
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: of services previously accepted, including gym memberships, pet care, like grooming.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Veterinarian services, storage, home repairs, and dry cleaning. So expanding
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: sales tax. Retail delivery fee, a proposed fee on retail
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: deliveries in Northern Virginia. Firearms ammunition tax. Radford property tax.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: The Radford City Council approved a property tax increase in 2026,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: making the third consecutive year of increases. Warren County property
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: tax increases. Northern Virginia taxes. These are all property taxes.
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  Speaker 1: So be careful.
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  Speaker 5: Many of them have been implemented.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm not saying it will or it won't.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just saying that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the agenda. But that's the agenda that they're going for.
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  Speaker 9: It has not been implemented.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: What is their agenda, though? What are they working through
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: the legislature as we speak? And you know it's going
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: to happen because it's run by the Democrats. There ain't
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: going to be any opposition to it.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I would just say, what if you found out
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 8: that all of that was done in Ohio? Just as
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: an example, I'm just thinking here, to reduce your property tax,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 8: where you're actually paying taxes you spend, not just by
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 8: owning your home.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Well, if you want to reshuffle the deck, the first thing,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: when you ask me a question like that, the first
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: problem I have with... Government in general is government's doing
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: too much, getting too big and costing too much. I'm
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: not for the answer can't be reshuffling the deck. The
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: answer is that, hey, we're going to cut your property taxes,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: but we're going to shift that entire burden over to
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: an income tax. So you're still paying the same or more.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 9: I agree with you.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 7: I understand.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: I understand.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: That's kind of what they're doing.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 8: It was what you mentioned earlier with the lottery. Right. Where,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 8: all right, we're going to have this new funding source.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 8: But all they did was take money away from there
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 8: and put it toward something else.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, make no mistake, I'll get to the Republicans
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: in Ohio momentarily. But like when you got Mondami saying, well,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to give all this stuff away for free,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: but here's what we got to do. We're going to,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: in his case, increase property taxes. He's gone through it.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: all these taxes on, of course, more taxes on rich
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: people and all this kind of stuff. Well, guess what?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Just like that. Who was that? Where's that? 40, like,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: 8-year-old woman that said, well, bye to the millionaire. Seattle
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: or somewhere out there. Did you see her the other day? Well,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: if all the rich people want to leave, bye. She
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: said bye. Well, guess what? Oh, wow. They did. One
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: of the rich guys said, see ya. And he's pulling out,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: what was a big star? Maybe it was Starbucks or
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: something out of Seattle.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 8: Was it California or was it Washington?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: I forget. What the hell was her name? I thought
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: it was Seattle.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: She's a weird one. I tell you, when you mention
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: that Spamburger or whatever in Virginia, let me ask you
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: this just as a woman. I find her very odd looking.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I look at her and I'm like, she
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: is really weird looking. You ever look at her? Give
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: her a hard look.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 8: Honestly, I think I've probably seen her, but her name
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 8: or her face right now is not coming up to me.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know what she looks like.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: I'm sure I've seen her, but I haven't paid attention.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Listen, Moderate Elaine, do me a favor. You've got to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: take a— she' s really weird to me.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: All I want to say is, no, my whole point
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 8: of all of it is I believe holding people accountable
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 8: when something has been decided and done. And right now
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 8: we're getting all this whoopsie-whoopsie about something. that has only,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 8: you know, proposed that this might happen. It might not
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 8: even come to fruition. Or maybe of all these 50
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 8: tax proposals, maybe two get implemented. We don't know. We
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 8: don't know yet. So to ram it down and say, oh,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 8: my goodness, how awful. When she hasn't even been the
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 8: one proposing these things, it's the legislators.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Who can make it up without.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Oh no, she's right at the forefront. Go study her
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: some more, Moderate Elaine. This is like when Mondami's talking
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: about we're going to do all this kind of stuff
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: and here's how we're going to pay for it. Those
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: aren't suggestions. That's what he wants to do and champion it.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: He wants to do it, but he's not going to.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 8: He was talking about giving them free, I want to
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: say I heard free transportation on the buses or something.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: To that effect.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: We do it here in Mahoning County.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 8: Well, we're taxed for it and I don't think he's
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 8: even proposing that, but But my point is, he now realizes,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 8: once you get in, that might not be what you
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 8: can do. And I think that's true for many politicians,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 8: regardless of party. They make these, you know, nice proposals
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 8: about what they want to do, and then when they
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 8: get in, they're like, ah, you know what I mean?
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 8: So I'm just saying that you don't know what could
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 8: be talked about, but maybe it's never going to come
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 8: to fruition. So hold their feet to the fire, absolutely,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: once something is decided and done, and then say, look
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: what they did, or look what she did, or look
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 8: what whomever did. But when people are just throwing out
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 8: ideas about stuff, I just don't feel at this point
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: it's appropriate to say they're.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 13: Horrible because of it.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Well, they are because that's their agenda. For example, did
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I just want to focus on this woman,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: this is another lib oddball, Her name is, what is
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: her name? Let me go. Seattle Socialist Mayor Katie Wilson.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: She's facing more backlash because she's against the closed-circuit television
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: cameras that are being used in these crime areas to
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: capture crime. And she's denounced them in the past as
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: something that makes the community feel unsafe and vulnerable, these
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: closed-circuit cameras. Well, you had an elderly man walking down
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: a street in downtown Seattle last month when two men
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: walking by him stopped without any provocation, shoved him to
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: the ground, and beat the living crap out of him, basically.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: But she says she's against these cameras because of invading,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: being used to against people that are in the country illegally.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Her own statement, I'm not making it up. So she
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: wants to shut the cameras down because of people that
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: are here illegally. And the argument is, what about all
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: our illegal citizens and the crime that's running amok in
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: that area? What's wrong with you? I mean, don't, when
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: you get a socialist person like Spamburger, I think is
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: her name, in Virginia, or this girl in Seattle, or
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Mondami in New York. Take them at their word. They're
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: not conservatives. They're going to do all this stuff, and
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: they're championing it all. And guess what? I don't live there.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't vote for them. Good luck with it. And
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I won't, and I would never move there.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 7: And that's my point.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 8: That was going to be my point. If that woman,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 8: if I was living in Seattle or wherever you said
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 8: she was from, I would vote against her.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 8: That's the recourse we have. We forget that if you're
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 8: mad about something getting passed as a levy. Well, I
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 8: think you and Gino had this discussion a week or
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 8: so ago whenever you had him on.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: People voted that.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean? It's like, be mad at
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 8: your fellow neighbor because they're the ones that said it
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 8: was okay to raise my tax for this or voted
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 8: this particular person as mayor or whatever it might be.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean? And if you say, well, geez,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 8: I don't want to go live there, then I think
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 8: that's probably the appropriate..
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: Stuff that you should take.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: I give that guy credit, the coffee guy that left Seattle. Absolutely.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: There's another rich guy that's leaving New York, a real
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: wealthy guy, and these people are saying, hey, these rich
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: people give to the arts and entertainment. They donate a
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: lot of money in addition to paying a lot of taxes.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: You keep insulting him. I think the guy in Seattle
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: is moving to Miami. And I think maybe the guy
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: in New York was there. But they're all moving to Florida.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: They're all going, and Miami is a cheap place to live.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: But needless to say, they're all moving there because it's just,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: and a lot of their business is moving there because
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: of the philosophy of the state. They don't have an
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: income tax? Well, it's not just an income tax. Right,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: there's not an income tax in Florida. But Florida's got many...
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Many benefits to it.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's where they make it up.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Well, they have the weather.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 8: Well, yeah, they go hand in hand to a degree.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 8: But all right, I didn't mean to get off on
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 8: a tangent, but I'm just saying hold somebody accountable, in
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 8: my opinion, when they actually finalize something and make a
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 8: decision on something. Nothing has happened right now in Virginia,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 8: not yet now. Maybe come June 1st, something will happen.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 21: I don't know.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 8: And then you can rake somebody over the coals for.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: Making that decision.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: But then it's too late.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 7: If we have a.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 8: Conversation, I don't think it's warranted to say somebody's evil,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 8: in my opinion.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's evil. Okay. Now listen. Here's your hallmark. I
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: want you to look at a photo. I'm going to
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: bring up a picture of this woman. God, I mean, no.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 8: No, I don't need to look at somebody. We're all
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 8: God's children here now.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: She'll give you the creeps.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 8: The gentleman about four calls ago that talked about the
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 8: funding of public schools. You agreed with it.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Wait a second. Hang on a second. Wait, I got
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: another one for you. Tax hikes looming for Virginia residents.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: Looming?
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 8: Looming doesn't mean they've been adopted.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: The average taxpayer in Virginia would see a 21% tax hike.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Okay, we'll wait until they do it, and
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: then we'll complain about it.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 8: And then I'll call back and say, you're right, and
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 8: this is wrong, or this was why they did it,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 8: or whatever.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make you..
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 8: We spend all our time arguing about things that haven't
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 8: even happened.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make you..
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 8: It's hard to get to the root of things that
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 8: actually are happening.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make you grovel when that happens. You
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: just wait.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 9: Okay, I will.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: I promise.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: Now, the public schools. So, four callers ago or something, agreement.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 8: you know the public school should be funded by the
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 8: state the constitution fabric the gentleman uh... it because of
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 8: the fact that you refer to about that they want
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 8: to eliminate property taxes he called it a bit up
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 8: from duke uh..
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: Push the camera Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: I love that gentleman when he speaks. I think he's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: very intelligent. I'm totally on board with that.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Extremely.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: So you've got Klesnik saying that the state should be
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: paying for this to.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 13: Lower our property taxes.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: You agree with that. The caller for him, I agree
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: with that. Guess who also agrees with that? Amy Acton.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 8: You're going to hate that answer.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: I see.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 7: And you won't even listen.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: She is for the fair funding formula, Ron. And I'm
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 8: not saying you have to like any other politician.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: But wait a minute. I can explain to you the
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: fair funding formula. Stand by for a second. It's Moderate
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Elaine when we come back.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 11: News Radio 570 WKBN.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Well, Moderate Elaine is now talking about what she likes
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: about Amy Acton, who's going to she's going to be
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: the Democrat nominee against Vivek Ramaswamy for Ohio governor, just
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: in case you missed the primaries yesterday. She ran unopposed,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: and so that's going to be your rundown for governor.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: And it's pretty much neck and neck, just so you understand.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a blowout either way. It is
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: a neck and neck race in this very red state. Ari,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: go ahead with your thoughts.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 8: No, I was just trying to point out that What
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 8: makes me a moderate is that very thing, is that I...
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 8: She believes the thing that you believe on one issue.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 8: It might be the only issue, okay? I don't know
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 8: where your thoughts are on the policies of both of
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 8: these candidates, but she believes that the state should be
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 8: following the Constitution and paying the lion's share of public
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 8: school expenses... to eliminate and lower the property taxes for
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 8: everyday homeowners. That is a policy she believes. Now, I'm
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 8: not trying to be controversial, but Vivek believes he not
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 8: only wants to expand EdChoice, he wants to expand it.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 8: So giving a billion dollars a year to schools like
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 8: Ursuline and charter schools isn't enough. He wants to expand it.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 8: In the same breath says we need to hold public
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 8: schools to a higher standard. So he wants to take
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 8: schools that already provide data and benchmarks. And these are
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 8: random as far as I'm concerned as far as what
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 8: is considered A, B, or C. And then you go
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 8: to a private school where they have zero standards. Nobody
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 8: knows what they do there. They don't know what their
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 8: test scores are. They don't know how those students read.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 8: They don't know what they're reading. So I'm just pointing
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 8: out one policy difference. difference amongst two candidates and i'm
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 8: not saying to go for either one i'm just trying
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 8: to you know you take an individual and you just
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 8: throw them under the bus whether it's the virginia governor
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: and you're not actually looking at here is a policy
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 8: let's just look at a policy and one candidate believes
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 8: that the state should be taking the lion's share of
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 8: expenses for public schools and the other candidate wants to
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 8: explode the ed voucher system and that's the reality So
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 8: when you go vote, when a person, not you specifically,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 8: but when a person goes and votes, realize that everybody's
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 8: complaining about property taxes left and right, and we've got
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 8: this statewide initiative to try to eliminate them. Just so
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 8: you know, there was one candidate who did want to
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: assist that, and there's another candidate that wants to take
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 8: a billion dollars and more of your hard-earned money and
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 8: give it to a black hole. That is a policy difference.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 7: Between the two.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: There's Moderate Elaine. We'll be right back. All right, back
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: to it. It's on News Radio 570. 534, you're on
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: the air. Robin? Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 7: Dave Thomas' call today I thought was great. I wanted
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 7: to echo what he said.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm trying to place a voice.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Let me think here for a minute.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: That's from Brexit. My home village.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: How was it?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 7: Oh, my God. It's always amazing there. It's my third time,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 7: and it's the best.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Now, where did you go? Hang on a second. Hang
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: on a second. It's the boss lady back from vacation.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: Where did you go?
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 7: We went to Naples, Sereno, Positano, Capri, the Amalfi Coast, Sicily,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 7: all over Sicily. We went to Venice and then ended
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 7: in Rome.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: And are you able to speak the language?
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 7: I wish I would, but we have a driver and
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 7: he can speak the language. We stopped at our family's hometown.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: That's the first thing we do when we get there.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 7: And our driver speaks so he can speak to everybody.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 7: And it's awesome. The weather is beautiful. Not a rainy day.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 7: Not a cloud in the sky.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Do you have any relatives still in that area?
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 15: Nope.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: They all came over.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: And other parts, like other sides of my family, other
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 7: lines that I have, but not the one that we,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: not the town we go to visit.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: And what is it like? Because you're basically visiting your heritage.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's like a, it's a very poor, old, old town.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 7: It's small.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: Pretty cool.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 7: We drink there. We have a couple drinks. We try
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 7: to buy whatever we can from the people who live
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 7: there and you know, they brought us food out and
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 7: all kinds of stuff. It was like insane the amount
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 7: of food they brought out and it.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 18: Was like $ 30.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 7: So of course we gave them more, but yeah, it's
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 7: always great. They're always so happy and excited because when
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 7: people go there, like no one goes there. They have
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 7: like a population of 400 people. So when anyone comes there,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 7: it's like As a driver bring them there, they're like,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 7: who is this? Why are they even here? And we
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 7: stand out like a sore thumb, like totally stand out
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 7: like an American.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Why since it's your, you would look like the people
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: of the area because that's where your heritage is. And
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: your husband looks like that too. Yeah. So why do
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: you stand out like a sore thumb?
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 7: You know, the Americans dress different than they do. It's
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 7: more of a farming town. It's small. Everybody knows everybody. Literally,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 7: there's 300, 400 people there.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: And what kind of, like, did you get a pizza?
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 22: No, we had basically, like, sausage and, like, buffalo mozzarella,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 22: all kinds of, like, you know, local, more like an impasta,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 22: which we.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: Would call that.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: And was all of it good? Delicious.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 7: Everything's good.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: Delicious. Yep.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: So it was just traveling your ancestry for the most part.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 7: This is the third time we've been there, but the
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 7: second time we've been to some of the same areas.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 7: But the second time we've gone to my family's hometown.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: And what... Like some people say, when you go to Europe,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: some people say, that you realize how hard we work
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: in America. In Europe, they have a better understanding of
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: enjoying life and relaxing and living life, not just being
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: a slave to working constantly. Is that the same vibe
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: that you got where you were at?
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 7: Oh, I think it's definitely easier living. I'll tell you,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: everything's so much deeper there. I mean, so much deeper.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, if you want to get into like.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 7: Some crazy shopping, you can get into that too. But
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 7: the food is amazing. The dinners are so much cheaper
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 7: and what you get and the quality of the food.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 7: And you know when... Europe, they don't pump it with
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 7: all the stuff that they do here, which is why
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 7: I think I lost three pounds and I ate like insane.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: Like I don't really eat lunch.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: I'm not a big breakfast eater. Um, I just kind
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 7: of worked through and I ate like, I think I
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 7: ate all day.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: I ate and drank all day and I think.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 7: I lost weight.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: How was the flight? Is it long? Oh yeah.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: Probably long.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 7: Better save up and get, Better tickets.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 18: That's all I can tell you.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 8: Oh, really?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 7: Better tickets. Yeah. Get better tickets.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: Now, how many points where you can use points?
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 7: Cause you definitely want to a better seat.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: What was the longest time you were in the air?
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 9: I think it was.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 7: Like eight hours and 40 minutes.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 7: A little longer on the way, but I had to
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 7: lay flat so I can sleep.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: You could sleep.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: You could lay flat on a plane.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: How can you lay down on a plane? You're in
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: a seat.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but you're not if you buy the right ticket.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 7: If you get the right ticket, you can..
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: Trust me, it's a lot better.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? You can put the seat down?
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: Or is there like a bed?
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: No, it's like..
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 7: Reclines it moves forward it moves backward it lifts its
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 7: legs you've got a screen.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 5: You've got like a headphone i mean they.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 7: Bring you dinner hot towels they bring you foot things
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 7: that pillows and blankets and you can literally slide it
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 7: all the way flat and sleep and were you and were.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: You able to actually sleep on the plane weren't you
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: nervous about snoring and that kind of stuff Oh, hell no.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: I don't snore.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 7: But my husband, I will tell you, he could, yeah,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 7: he's disturbing. I had to keep nudging him because you
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: could tell the.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: Other passengers were like, oh my God, he's snoring.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 9: But no, yeah.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. He would be sleeping.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: He'd put his chair down. He would be asleep and
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: he would wake you up from his snoring and you
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: would wake him up so he couldn't sleep because he
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: was snoring, even though he can't help it.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 8: I know, but you can't disturb the whole plane.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 7: For God's sake. Come on, honey. You're snoring too loud.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: My brother-in-law would even be like, oh, my God, he's snoring.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: So bad. So he didn't get to sleep then?
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: Oh, he got to sleep plenty. It's just when it
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 7: started to sound like we had..
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 18: Animals on the plane, I had to nudge them.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, snoring is bad. He's a bad snorer.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting. So the trip was good. The food
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: was good. The plane ride was intense. And does it
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: make you appreciate America?
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, definitely. You know, you're always excited to get
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 7: back home. I mean, but it is amazing. It's a place,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 7: I mean, you could live and live very well. And
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 7: their house is there. We were laughing, my sister and I,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 7: you could buy a house in our old, like, family
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 7: town for like 60,000 euro. And it would be easy life.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: You'd be farming and, you know, just breathing in beautiful air.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 7: You'd be, you know, half an hour from... The sea,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 7: you're an hour from Rome, you're an hour from... It's
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 7: just great. Italy's amazing. Definitely recommend. And each area of
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 7: Italy is very different. So if you're in the south,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 7: it's much different than if you're in Florence versus Tuscany
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 7: versus Rome versus Rossitano. Sicily is an entirely different story.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, but they're all great.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 8: Hmm.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 7: Never felt nervous or anything. I mean, you know, you've
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 7: got to be alert, but.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Why do you, why have you gone back three times?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 7: Cause it's my favorite place.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: Like I would go to Italy over anywhere ever in
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: the world.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's because it's your heritage that you're
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: drawn to it?
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 7: I do think partially, but I think now even if
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 7: you're not Italian, like you will love, love Italy. It's just,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 7: it's beautiful. It's amazing. Food's amazing. The people are great. The,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you like to stop, if you like
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 7: the historical aspect, which I was laughing because I was
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 7: talking to a friend this morning and we were talking about,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 7: you know, we laughed here. Like, I'm looking at buildings
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 7: and I.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 18: Went to saw one of the oldest Greek ruins. It's
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 18: like the oldest, most well-preserved in the world we went
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 18: to in Sicily. And the building or the structure was Oh,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 18: my God.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 7: It's like 3,000 years old, right? And there's pieces of
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 7: structure still standing, but yet we have schools that are
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 7: 50 years old and we want to rip them down.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 7: It just blows your mind.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: So I was.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 5: Chuckling about that today. When I said, you know.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 7: Every building in Europe is 200 years old, 300 years old,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 7: 500 years old. You're talking before Christ. I mean, I
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 7: walked through Pompeii where there's still structures and, you know,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 7: volcano erupted and took all the whole civilization out. They
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 7: still have the structures there, but we want to rip.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: Down schools that are 60 years old.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 7: Because we can't figure out how to fix them. You know,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 7: but these people built before Christ.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, so it's impressive, and it also
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 7: makes you wonder, because they don't rip those buildings down,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 7: and they're beautiful, and they're structurally sound and fully functioning.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: Did they have air conditioning and stuff like that?
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 7: Well, everywhere I was, yeah. I'm sure there are some
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 7: that don't, but yeah. I mean, if you're talking, you know,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 7: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years old.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: Did you say you went to, did you meet the Pope?
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 7: No, I did not go to the Vatican.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 19: No, no, I'm not.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 7: I like to just roam about and be around and
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 7: frolic with the people. I don't, I don't, I am
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 7: not a big tour person. We do tours here and there.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: I did a cooking class in Venice. I mean, I
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 7: do some things like that, but I like to just
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 7: walk around.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: Do you, did you feel safe?
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 9: Oh gosh.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely safe.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: But I mean, I've got my head on a swivel.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 7: No matter where I'm at. You just can't be stupid.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean? Like, even if I'm in
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 7: a bus, it's safe. And I still am always aware
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 7: of who's in front of me and who's behind me. Yeah.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 7: I ride the subway in New York City, too, and
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 7: wouldn't miss a beat and never be afraid. But I
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 7: still am, you know, you'd be aware.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's changed a lot over the years.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: I think I would.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's definitely not, which is, you know,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 7: it's not safe. It's not as safe there, and it's
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 7: gotten a little crazy. But when I was listening to
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 7: Ted talk, it made me think about how we are
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 7: definitely more vulnerable than I think we are here. And
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 7: I know you and I have talked about the fact
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 7: that I don't think we're deep red anymore. I think
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 7: we're closer to light pink, if pink, and not turning blue.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 6: And so..
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 7: I was reflecting on it this morning, and I know
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 7: you're for some of these things and you're saying they're
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 7: just renewals, but I would... My concern is this. It's
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 7: not that all these renewals are passing, and I get that, yeah,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 7: some of the new levies were turned down and maybe.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: Did a little worse in terms of.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 7: Passage rate than they had in the past, but the
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 7: fact is we are... overwhelmingly passing renewal levies. And that's
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 7: a broader problem. And I think that until we get
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 7: to the crux of what's actually happening in this county,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 7: across the state, and in this country, we're going to
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 7: continue to have almost like a Mondani or Mondami, whatever
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 7: the heck his name is, in New York City and
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 7: what's going on there. Because the middle class is really
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 7: getting squeezed. And so when you have people that are
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 7: dependent upon social services and the government programs, and government
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 7: has become the industry, right? So in Mahoning County, we
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 7: used to be built on steel manufacturing trades. We had
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 7: a strong middle class. And that's no longer, right? The
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 7: population is shrinking. It's getting older.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: The middle class is shrinking.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 6: And..
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 7: The people that are going out and voting are all
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 7: dependent on this system that our local government has become
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 7: tied to. It's not tied to private sector, right? It's
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: tied to.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: Our— Wait a second here, boss lady. What do they
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: call women in Italy? I have to come up with
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: a word. Listen here, boss lady. When you're talking about
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, for example, as I said when
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: I started, as I would say to you, I voted
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: for the continuation of the quarter percent sales tax, which
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: you don't even notice. It's quarter percent. And a lot
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: of it's paid by people that shop here from out
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: of town to benefit our roads. I mean, in all reality,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: just hang on. Genetti is the county engineer's budget has
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: been the same for 20 years. So he couldn't. He
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: gets it from license plates and gas tax and what
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: have you. It wasn't growing, yet the cost of paving
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: the roads... was continuing to grow, so the amount of
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: miles you could do was basically insignificant. So you would
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: see roads throughout Mahoning County just deteriorating that never got
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: any attention or could get any. So because of that
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: tax and because of his truthfulness about this is where
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: it's going to go and what we're going to do,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: and he's lived up to that. You follow me? I mean,
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: he didn't lie. I agree. So we're seeing more roads
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: paved in Mahoning County than have ever gotten paved and
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: roads that needed desperate attention. And money that goes to
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: the township, you would be a fool to vote against
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: that tax because you don't understand what his situation was.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: And to be able to fix the roads, it would
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: be stupidity. Now, in my own community in Austintown, they
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: still have a responsibility. They get money from that tax
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: in addition to what they already spend on roads.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: To me, roads are important, so I had two renewals
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: on that, and I voted for both of those because
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: that is something that is worth renewing because of what
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: comes from it. Because if you don't do that, what
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: comes from it is roads that will deteriorate even more,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: and you're not going to keep up to them. That
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: is what the point is that I was trying to
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: make on renewals. And I voted for those. And like
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: the only other caveat I did, I put a comma
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: in there and I said, I forget where I, I
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: understand any community and I don't, and I support any
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: community that says I'm going to tax myself additionally for
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: police protection because, because inflation it's, Hiring cops is more expensive.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: The benefits are more expensive. Police cars are more expensive.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: I understand why people would say I'm willing to make
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: this sacrifice, and it is a sacrifice to have enough
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: officers to have protection here in police emergency services, police, fire, ambulance.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: So I get all of those, and you're getting something
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: for that money.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 7: That's not debating that, not debating you whatsoever on the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 7: fact that we need roads and we definitely need police.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm saying, though, yes.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 7: The funding mechanism and the way that we do it
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 7: is why I will not support. Now it's done. I'm
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 7: not saying I've never voted for a fire or all
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 7: of these things, right? I'm saying that the system is
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 7: holding the taxpayer hostage, and I wouldn't vote for a
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 7: levy like Dave Thomas was saying, and at the same
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 7: time vote to abolish property taxes and remove all levies.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 7: I'm voting, and I believe that the system needs pinked.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 7: That absolutely we would be a dummy. You would be
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 7: so stupid to not think that you have to, as
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 7: a person living in this community or anywhere, have to
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 7: support fire, police, and these roads. And schools. And we
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 7: have to have schools, right? And the state is supposed
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 7: to be taking care of the schools, whatever. But as
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 7: a society, that's going to happen, whether it happens through
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 7: income tax, sales tax, I don't care. I don't want
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 7: it to happen through property tax because you should.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: Not attach my home, my asset to that.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 7: You can send me a bill. We've talked about this before.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 7: That's my issue with it. And I think that what's
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 7: happened here is that the middle class has gotten so squeezed.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 7: Mahoning County, the average income is extremely low. We have
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 7: an aging population, a declining population, a shrinking middle class,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 7: and the workforce are people who rely on all the
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 7: government funding, the government contracts, the government levies, the government
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 7: health care, and all of this.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Stand by. Wait a minute. Just hold that thought. Hold
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: that thought. Back with the boss later. Call us in line.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: Stand by. I've got a lot more to speak with
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: her about when I return.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: All right, so with the boss lady back from vacation.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: All right, so.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 7: My concern is that we had low voter turnout. The
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 7: Republican Party is not turning out. It's very fractured.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 5: You've got Vivek, who is, some people say, running behind. Okay,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: he's behind in the active.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 7: People are saying it's that close.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 5: If not, he's behind.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 7: And I do believe those betting sites that were referred
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 7: to because I followed them during Trump's election. They are
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 7: pretty darn accurate. You've got low voter turnout. We've got
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 7: people who are struggling. And these people are still voting
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 7: for the levies. And you may ask yourself why, because
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 7: I scratch my head every single time. And the reason
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 7: why is they are dependent upon the levies for their
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 7: own livelihood. And you're never going to get people to
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 7: vote against feeding themselves. And so that's how we get
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 7: them to overwhelmingly, constantly, and it's not even like they
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 7: just passed.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 5: They made a statement with.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 18: Their levy approval.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: In our county, in Trumbull County, they were overwhelming.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 7: That tells us we have a major problem.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 7: Most of those levies were renewals in the local area.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 9: But hold on.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 7: When you're being pinched, And you don't have that much
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 7: money and you still vote for a renewal, not to
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 7: give yourself a raise. And this is what I think
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 7: Dave Thomas was going, because they could have put money
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 7: back in their pocket and they still said no, and
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 7: they still are struggling.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a fair assessment. Yes, you
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: can do that. Listen, I'm the first guy to take
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  Speaker 1: a look at all this stuff, but you're getting something
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  Speaker 1: for the money. People aren't going to say no. None
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  Speaker 1: of it matters if.
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  Speaker 5: You can't put food on the table, Ron.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: I understand that, but people do care about roads, and
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: they do care about a cop showing up, and they
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: do care about a fire department showing up if your
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: house is on fire. Most of this stuff that was renewed,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: had to do with these were renewals and some of
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: it with the school system and people view it differently
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: if they have kids in school. Listen, if you put
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: a new levy on my ballot for Austintown schools, I
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: would vote against it. There's absolutely no possible way. But when...
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: The Austintown police had a levy on. I voted for
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  Speaker 1: it after my son educated me because the bottom line
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: was the department did all the cuts it could do
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: and there was nowhere else to go. It needed additional funds.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: There was nothing more to cut.
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  Speaker 7: I think you're missing my point, though. My point is
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 7: that government is expanding to the point where it's creating
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 7: a system that is feeding itself and is becoming the industry.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: If you're saying to me... Wait a second. If you're
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: saying to me... No, hang on. I don't disagree with
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: you if you're saying to me a lot of private
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: sector businesses aren't private sector businesses. They get all their
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: money from the government, whether it's dealing with autism, whether
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: it's dealing with drug abuse. You got it.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: Stand by. Just hang in there because... I've got more
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: to cover with you, all right? Just sit tight, and
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: I'll get to more of your..
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 14: From ABC News, I'm Chuck Severson.
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  Speaker 21: U.S.
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  Speaker 14: Forces attacked and disabled an Iranian flag tanker that tried
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 14: to break through the U.S. blockade on the Strait of
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 14: Hormuz today, says the Pentagon. Sources tell ABC News the U.S.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 14: is considering a possible arrangement in which Iran would open
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 14: the strait and the U.S. would end its blockade of
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 14: Iranian ports. ABC's Tom Sufi-Burridge in Tel Aviv.
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  Speaker 23: That would create a 30-day window in which more negotiations
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 23: would take place on the more substantive issues. The question
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 23: of what would happen to Iran's stocks of enriched uranium,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 23: which remain in the country, and also the future of
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 23: its nuclear program, potentially its missile program, and its relationship
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 23: with its proxies around the region.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: President Trump at the White House. They want to make
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: a deal. We've had very good talks over the last
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: 24 hours. And it's very possible that we'll make a deal.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 14: Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick was interviewed behind closed doors by
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 14: the House Oversight Committee about Jeffrey Epstein. Republican Committee Chair
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  Speaker 14: James Comer.
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  Speaker 17: The only thing that I had seen that Lutnick did
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 17: wrong was wasn't 100% truthful on the brief visit to
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 17: the island with his family. He corrected that in his
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 17: opening statement.
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  Speaker 14: The Dutch cruise ship, which health officials say has had
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 14: some cases of hantavirus, once anchored off West Africa, now
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 14: headed to Spain's Canary Islands. For the next steps in
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 14: managing the outbreak, say health officials. An arrest in Sunday's
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 14: mass shooting during a party near Arcadia Lake in Edmond, Oklahoma.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 14: 23 people injured. 18-year-old Jalen Davis will be charged, says
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 14: police chief J.D.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 17: Younger.
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  Speaker 11: Detectives believe this incident began with a disturbance between two
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 11: females attending the gathering that escalated into an altercation. between
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 11: rival gang members also attending the gathering.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 14: Luigi Mangione's legal defense fund surpassed $ 1. 5 million today, his
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 14: 28th birthday. Mangione's scheduled to stand trial in September for
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 14: the shooting death of UnitedHealthcare chief Brian Thompson in New York.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to ABC News.
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  Speaker 9: WKBN.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: All right, so back for a bit here with the
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: boss lady. I understand what you're saying. Many of these
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: businesses benefit as a result of... They're not really private
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: sector businesses. They're getting all their money from their government programs,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: like the $ 400 you pay through Medicaid to these people
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: that are counseling people off the drug set. Right. Or
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of money with autism. And I get all
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 7: And that is a greater portion of the employment in
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 7: our state than the private.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it the private sector? I don't
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: know that I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 7: When you combine all of those together. And the private
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 7: sector is shrinking and it's symptomatic. All of this and
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 7: all of the levy, this is all symptomatic, I think,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 7: of a greater problem. And I think the Republican Party
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 7: is going to have to think ahead and formulate a
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 7: plan because when people are struggling and you see all
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 7: of this happening and they're still voting, And they are struggling.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 7: And Republicans aren't coming out to vote. And you see
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 7: that the way that the voting is looking, even just yesterday, right?
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 7: When you've got Vivek, we're in a deep red state.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 9: He's not even..
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 7: He's even at best with her right now. It's a
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 7: problem that we have to think about as a party.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 7: And we rebuild and we have to restore the middle
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 7: class because it's shrinking.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 5: And when it shrinks and.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 7: The jobs that people are dependent upon are those same
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 7: ones that are federally and government funded, you have a
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 7: massive problem coming around the corner. I hope everyone's awakened
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 7: to it. We have to rebuild and restore the middle class.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 7: Whether that's through skilled trade, small businesses, we need policies
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 7: that reward production and ownership and independence again. And if
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 7: we don't have that, we're going to end up like
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 7: a New York City.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I get what you're saying.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 7: A lot.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: Let me put a lot can change between now and
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: a general election, because even this situation is fluid that
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: we talk about so much as far as Iran is concerned.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's very fluid. The market was way up today.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: There's talks about there's talks that there's talks of it
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: being resolved. And and I mean, it can get resolved.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: It can. be a victory for Trump and oil prices
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: can come down. So you got to go day by
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: day on what's happening with this. If he's successful in
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: doing that in the days ahead to where their threat
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: is negated and the straight is open and oil prices
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: come crashing down, then that changes everything as far as
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: what he's done for the country. And it can change
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: the outlook of disgruntled voters when it comes to the midterms.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: as well. And as far as Ohio is concerned, listen,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: like that moderate Elaine forgets with Amy Acton and everyone
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: supporting that. Amy Acton quit. She quit her job.
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  Speaker 7: Amy Acton is not for government expansion. She's the exact
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 7: reason that we're in the situation we are in Mahoning County.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 7: Not every county in Ohio is the same as Mahoning.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 7: I'm speaking about Mahoning. Mahoning does not have a high
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 7: average wage. We don't have a lot of jobs here.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 7: woman is struggling. So Amy Acton is not the answer
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 7: to anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm just saying the bottom line is Amy
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: Acton quit being the state's doctor because she couldn't take it.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: So you want me to expect in a moderate, Elaine,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: that she can run for governor and she quit being
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: the state's doctor at a critical time, one would argue.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: And now she wants to run for governor. I just
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: don't see it. She will always be increasing taxes somehow. Now,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: before you go, the commissioner's outcome.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah. I mean, you know, we won. Now we've
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 7: got to try to beat McNally.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 7: So, I mean, it is what it is.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: We've got to, you know. Now, don't you admit, I mean,
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: I know your candidate didn't do great, but don't you think,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, in all reality, she ran a very good campaign.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, she had a lot of campaign presence. She
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: made those two issues the forefront of her campaign.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 7: Oh, there's no doubt. She was organized.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 7: She was organized.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 18: She had a big team. It's helpful.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 7: She's been running for almost two years.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: And hopefully she'll be able to use all that to
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: beat to that left winger McNally.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 7: I mean, we have no choice, right? So, yeah, I mean,
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 7: hopefully she will. And everybody unites behind her. I mean,
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 7: she got, what, 45% of the vote. It's hard when
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 7: you have three people running. So you've got fracture and
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 7: splitting the vote.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: But that's how this said, that's what primaries are all about.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 7: That's what it's about. So, you know, she definitely had
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 7: it very well organized and she had a team that
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 7: definitely championed her and she did well. And the door knocking,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 7: I heard you talk about that or somebody mentioned that
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 7: it is vital. I think it does make a difference,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 7: but you know, he didn't have a long runway. He
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 7: had a couple months and, and, It's hard to canvas
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 7: this whole county in a couple months.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there you go. I mean, it's...
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: And in her comments afterwards, Oliver has said those two issues.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 7: I didn't get to see them.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: Those two issues are.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 7: Important, and I'm glad she's championing those.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: Right, and she said she'll champion those. If she is
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: successful in the general election, she'll champion those as a commissioner.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: And I think she will. So let's see what happens.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 5: We're going to see what happens.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 7: We've got a backer now, and..
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: We've got to win this.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 5: So we've got to beat that loony boon.
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  Speaker 1: On behalf of everyone here in Mahoning County, I, Ron Verb,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: want to welcome you home.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 7: I'm so glad I'm back in the U.S.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: Of A. And for any of our visitors that are
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: new to our area, welcome to beautiful Mahoning Valley. All right.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. Just paraphrasing
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: Buddy Dyer there on the Tran in Orlando. News Radio
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: 570 WQEN. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Hello?
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  Speaker 9: You're killing me, Ryan.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's... Excuse me, is it JJ the Liberal?
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you're killing us.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 3: I've been knowing you.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 9: I've been knowing you a long, long time.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 13: I'm getting ready.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 9: Well, this is not why I call you, but I've
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 9: got to tell you something. I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever,
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 9: ever told you before, and I hope I have to never, ever, ever,
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 9: ever do it again.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. I love you, too. I know
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: this is awkward, and I know you want to say that,
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: so don't worry about it, okay?
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 9: Well, I've already said I love you. But what I'm
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 9: saying is I can't believe this, Ron, but I'm going
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 9: to say this. This is not why I called, right? Oh,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 9: my God, it's killing me. It's killing me. You say
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 9: don't bite your tongue, but, boy, this is a hard
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 9: one to spit out, Ron.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, spit it out already.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 9: Okay, then. I disagree with your wife.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 21: What?
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 19: What?
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: What did you say to me?
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 13: Yes, I disagree with her.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: With my wife?
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: You disagree with my wife?
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: Even I, let me tell you, even I can't disagree
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: with my wife.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 9: Well, listen, two plus two is four. But I'm going
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 9: to tell you why I disagree with her. Everything she
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 9: said and everything you said is true. But it don't
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 9: mean nothing. That's not the Republican Party's problem. Now, listen
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 9: to me.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: Well, what would my, I thought you said you disagreed
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: with my wife. What would? What do you disagree with
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: her on?
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 9: On the Republican Party. What they need to do.
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: What did she say they need to do?
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 9: They need to build up the middle class, right?
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: Are you talking? Well, that's not my wife.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 9: Oh, okay. When you say the boss lady, I thought
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 9: that was your wife.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 9: Well, how can you call another woman a boss lady
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 9: and you marry?
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 5: Are you crazy?
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: Who do you think's wearing the pants over there at
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: Verb Manor?
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 24: Not you.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, listen, you might be right.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 9: I am right, because I know, because I know where
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 9: the pants are in my house. But I got two
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 9: beautiful daughters out there, and one's back from Ohio State.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 13: I'm like you. I'm married up.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 9: But I'm not afraid to admit it.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: All right. But anyway, you disagree with the boss lady?
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: And go ahead. Yes, I'm all ears.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 9: Now, the last time I talked to you, right, when
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 9: I hung up the phone, I said I ain't never
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 9: going to call him again. Because you and a couple
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 9: other callers said they didn't believe me.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: What did we disagree? Remind me what we disagreed on,
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: if you would.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 9: Okay, I told you that MTV said that Donald Trump
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 9: told her He can't let the Epstein files release because
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 9: it'll hurt his friends.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: Well, guess what?
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 9: She said it again two days ago at the libertarian convention.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 9: All you got to do is Google it. But you
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 9: guys live in a different world, so that's on you.
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 25: Report.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: Now, I didn't see it, so tell our listeners. You're
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 1: talking Marjorie Taylor Greene said what? So we all know.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 9: She went through. This was at Rand Paul's thing he had, right?
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 9: And you go find it. She went through saying all
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 9: the situations how, you know, Donald Trump called her there
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 9: and said, listen, you can't vote for this, right? And
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 9: she said, man, I'm going to vote for this because
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 9: I support these people, right? And then finally, after she...
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 9: voted for it, Trump called her up and said, man,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 9: we can't release this. And she says, why? And Donald
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 9: Trump said, because it'll hurt his friends. So now, let's
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 9: move on, okay? Now, I used to call you all
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 9: the time, and you'd tell me, just like a little
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 9: stupid kid, why.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 24: Come Clinton don't show up? How come Clinton don't show up?
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 24: How come Clinton don't show up? How come Clinton don't
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 24: show up? Okay, Clinton showed up, and he brought his wife, okay?
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 24: So now, it's time for Pam Bondi And Donald Trump said, no,
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 24: she can't go. The only thing she can do is
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 24: you can't record it. All you can do is write
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 24: it down with a.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 9: Pencil and a piece of paper, just like they did
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 9: with this luck with, right? They won't take the oath,
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 9: the swear, because when they lie after the oath, if
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 9: you lie under the oath with a chance of being
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 9: charged with perjury, they ain't going to say nothing. So
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 9: now they're going in there without taking the oath and without,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 9: you know, being a video, like Clinton did. Now, That's good.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 9: That's good. So my question to you, not only Democrats, Republicans,
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 9: and the rest of the world is asking you guys,
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 9: with all this going on, how can you still support
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 9: this guy?
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 3: What do you say?
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: There's a number of things. If we're talking about the
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: whole Epstein situation, first of all, I agree with the
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: criticism against Trump on that particular area. I suspect, let
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: me give you a long answer. I suspect, as I said,
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: Epstein is and was a member of the– was created
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: by the intelligence community, was a member of the intelligence
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: community either directly or indirectly. And that intelligence community could
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: have been Mossad or it would be Mossad and the
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: United States. It could be one or both. And they
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  Speaker 1: created him. They created him, his ties to– People with
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: backgrounds in the intelligence community are so numerous, including with Maxwell's.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: So I think he's a member of it. And I
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: suspect this is only my suspicion. All right. I suspect
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: that Trump did a 180 on the whole Epstein thing
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: when he was meeting with Netanyahu. And if you remember,
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: he was in the White House and he did a
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: 180 on it. And I don't know if that 180
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: was as a result of. I have no idea why
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: he did that, if it was because of what could
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  Speaker 1: be exposed publicly. on him, what could be exposed on
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: people he knows, what could be exposed as far as
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: operations of the intelligence community or whatever. I have no
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: idea of what it is. But I thought it was
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: interesting when he campaigned to put it all out there.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: And when Pam Bondi said, I got all the files.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, when he said to
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: that reporter one day, that's old news. You're still talking
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: about that. It was a complete reversal. And I think
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: that has hurt Trump politically enough. amongst independents and Republicans,
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: including people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who say the focus
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: on this should be the victims and the minors that
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: were exploited and used for sexual purposes, children, by allegedly
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: people like Prince Andrew and other people of notoriety, that
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: political people are well-financed people. We've heard about Bill Gates
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: and why he got divorced. And I think that that
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: should all be exposed and those people should be held accountable.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: And I think there's a double standard of justice on
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: why that hasn't happened. I mean, I don't believe, it's
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: just my own speculation. I'm not convinced Epstein committed suicide
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: at all. I am suspicious of everything about it. So
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the intelligence community has got to
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: hold on it somehow to prevent that from happening. And
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: I think that that might be the case. So who
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: knows why Trump hasn't done that? And I think the
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: criticism from Marjorie Taylor Greene is warranted. The only thing
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in Marjorie Taylor Greene is that she quit.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: She quit, and I wish she would have stayed or
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: certainly finished out her term and or sought another term
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: because I think her not being there is a big loss.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: I sincerely believe... that she quit out of fear for
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: her life. I genuinely think that is..
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  Speaker 9: She talked about that, too. She talked about the people
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 9: threatening her son. And she got a text from Trump
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 9: saying that if something happened to her son, it's her fault.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 9: And she said she can't release the text because she's
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 9: afraid of going to jail.
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  Speaker 17: Now, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: No, I just think that she was concerned about her
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: safety based on things that were going on. So I
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: understand why she quit. I wish she would have finished
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: out her term and stood tall. But I don't know. Could...
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of trouble things about that entire situation.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to give anybody a pass on it.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: I do go along with people that say, I don't
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: think that... Well, no one knows for certain. I don't
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: think Trump was involved. I really think if they had
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: something on Trump, they would have used it. Remember, the
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: Epstein files were there long before Trump was in office.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: I think that would have been leaked out by Comey
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: and the people who hated Trump, and that information would
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: have been out there in the blink of an eye.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 9: Can I say something?
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't put out there. So if I had
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: to guess, I don't think they have much on Trump. Yeah,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 9: Now, the President of the United States... is supposed to
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 9: be the most powerful man in the world. This guy
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 9: got in front of the camera and told me, and
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 9: he told you, that he is going to release the
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 9: Epsom files. There's only one person holding up the Epsom files.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 9: That is Donald Trump. And you guys still support him.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: Well, but I can say, why didn't previous administrations release them?
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: There's the question, too.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 9: Why didn't they release it?
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, think about it.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 9: I don't know about it.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So you want to make it a partisan thing.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back.
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  Speaker 11: 570 WKBN.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: We're on Verbon News Radio, 570 WKBN. I mean, the
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: whole thing, the whole Epstein thing, and what is disturbing
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: is there seems to be a double standard of justice
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: that goes on. And I think it's rather blatantly obvious.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: When you see the benefits just through insider information that
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: has made people– in political office in Congress, extremely wealthy,
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: like the Nancy Pelosi's and company and the, uh, Elon
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: Omar's that go from nothing to huge sums of money.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you just pause and think, I mean,
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: Obama was a community organizer, uh, How did he get
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: so wealthy when he left being as president when he left?
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, he became extremely wealthy and his lifestyle changed dramatically.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: How did that happen? How about the two hillbillies from
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: Arkansas that when they were done, they're filthy, stinking rich? Well,
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 1: how does that happen? Where's the money coming from? Where
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: are the kickbacks coming from? That's, I think, a question
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: we should ask when you look at these type of situations.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 1: And when you look at Nancy Pelosi and all this
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: great trading that even the best stock guru couldn't do
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: and how she made all of this money through insider information,
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: yet none of it is pursued. They're never held accountable
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: for it. They just get away with it. It's a
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: double standard of justice. As I say, we put Martha
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: Stewart in jail for $ 50, 000, which was ridiculous. And yet
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: the insider information and what goes on with their politicians,
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: we look the other way as though it doesn't exist
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: and they just get away with it. And the same
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: thing can be said for this whole Epstein situation as
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: far as the people. I mean, it's reprehensible what took place.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: You're talking about adult men engaging in sex with minor children.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: That's what you're talking about. I mean, Prince Andrew is
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: just a piece of crap. And when you look at him,
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: it's just, I mean, the thought of it, Bill Gates
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: and his divorce from his wife and the timing of
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 1: all of that and what she had to say and, oh,
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: it was these Russian prostitutes and this kind of stuff
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: and trying to slip her some medication from thinking that
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: he might have gave her VD and this kind of stuff.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely so damn bizarre what was going on with
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: political figures and the wealthy people and with an intelligence
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: operation that would just get this stuff and hold it
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: over their heads to manipulate them and do things in
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: whose best interest who was the puppeteer if it was
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: an intelligence operation through massad Were they the puppeteers with
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: this information? Do they still have it? Are they able
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: to manipulate people to get them to do what they
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 1: want to do? Or is U.S. intelligence a part of
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: it as well? Where is this information? Where are these tapes?
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: We know they exist because we know of all the
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: cameras there. Everybody knew what was going on on Pedophile
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: Islands and Lolita Express and what it stood for. I mean,
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: just by the names of these places. It wasn't secret.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: It wasn't hidden. People are well aware of all of
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. And so people like us, we
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: look at it and say, there's just a double standard
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: of justice. It's not right. It's not fair. And the
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: people that were wealthy and or in political office that
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: were engaged in this kind of stuff should be held
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: accountable for their filthy actions for the sake of those victims.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: But you don't see it happening. I would like to
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: see everything released and let the chips fall where they may.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: I don't care if they're Democrats or Republicans. So, and
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know where Trump falls in all of it.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: I just don't know. I mean, I would like to
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 1: think that, uh, as they say, he threw Jeffrey Epstein
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: out of Mar-a-Lago cause of being a creep. Well, okay.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: That's a good sign. Um, Jeffrey Epstein seemed to think
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: Trump was the one who called the cops on him.
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 1: That is a good sign. So then you have what
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: you had Elon Musk saying, he'll never release the Epstein
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: files because he's a part of them. Well, that was
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: interesting when Elon Musk said something like that. So who knows?
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: And as far as the Clintons testifying, I don't believe
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: a word that comes out of either one of their mouths.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: How could you after he didn't have sex with that woman?
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't believe anything they have to say.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: They're pretty slick legalese-wise, and I just don't buy any
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: of the stuff either one of them says. But it's
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 1: just a double standard of justice with insider trading, with
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files, and people have a right to be
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: pissed about it. And he says, well, we want more transparency,
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: and we're not seeing it. We're not getting it. Just
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: like any of the kids of a president, whether they're
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: Bidens or Trumps, if they're benefiting their families, benefiting from
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: the political office and making their family wealthy as a
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: result of it, it doesn't make it right. I don't
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: care if they're Republicans or Democrats. So we shall see.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: And what appears, like I said, what appears that there's
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 1: some degree of optimism, and it's a good thing when
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: it comes to the situation. I mean, the stock market
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: Dow surges 500 points, S & P 500 post first
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: close above 7,300 as traders hope for an Iran deal.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: You know, there's that conversation again about a potential deal
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: being worked out. I hope it's true this time. Hope
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: it happens. And I hope it's good.
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  Speaker 1: Back to it. News Radio 570 WKBKBN 634. Hello?
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  Speaker 13: Good evening, Ron.
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  Speaker 1: How are you? Folks, I always love it when he
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 1: does that. Good evening, Ron. How are you? It might
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: be the highlight of my day some days. I got
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: to tell you that. Live from a secret, undisclosed location. Deep.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: And I mean deep under the Earth's crust. Occasionally, when
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: he brings the satellite phone out during our 6.30 headlines,
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 1: we adjust our dishes. to pick up his signal and
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: to get a strong signal from him from his undisclosed location,
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: and we have made our connection. He has a good
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: copy on me.
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  Speaker 7: Over.
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  Speaker 1: It's G2.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 13: I got it 4x4 over here.
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. All right, G2. So, today... I'm always interested
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: just in– folks, a lot of times I sit back
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: and say to myself, what would G2 be saying about
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: what's happening today? There's so much I want to hear
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: you talk about. Obviously, I want to get to the
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 1: latest happenings as far as Iran is concerned. I want
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: to get to yesterday's primary. But I want you to
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 1: pick up on something that intrigued me at the end
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 1: of the discussion yesterday. When the guy was talking about
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 1: London and– So take me back to that moment, and
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: you agreed with that caller and what he was implying
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: and what you were agreeing to. I'm intrigued by that.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 13: So I definitely want to hit on some things that
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 13: you guys have talked about today, because I was able
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 13: to tune in a bunch of times. But just touching
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 13: on this in a preliminary way, when you look across Europe,
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 13: When you look across what's going on in Ukraine, the
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 13: way that war was started back in 2014, when you
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 13: look at how Germany and Ireland and England are being destroyed, right?
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 13: You look at what just happened in Romania the other night,
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 13: and then you look at what's happening here. And you
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 13: realize that it's the same program everywhere.
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: Explain what you say when you see, look at these countries.
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: Is it getting rid of their culture, their people? Explain, please.
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 13: Yes, it's all of that. It goes from Australia to
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 13: New Zealand. They tried it in Japan. I think they're
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 13: getting pushed out. But these globalists have implemented this woke
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 13: culture that includes, in addition to just making the culture woke,
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 13: They do a lot of things that drive down birth rates,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 13: and then they begin to bring in these third-world cultures
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 13: to replace the local citizenry. It's not just in the
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 13: United States. It's all over Western civilization, and now including Australia,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 13: which 10 years ago was staunchly defending its borders, and
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 13: then suddenly its borders were gone. When you look at
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 13: how they all behaved during COVID, you had to go
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 13: to the third world to find anybody that was implementing
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 13: good policy. Like, we talked a lot about Uttar Pradesh, right,
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 13: this Indian state that had at that time about 237
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 13: million people, because it was really doing things that were successful.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 13: The rest of the West was implementing these deadly policies,
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 13: the anti-actin policies, these deadly policies that killed the people, right,
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 13: and pushing these injections that killed and maimed a lot
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 13: of people. But how could it be the same everywhere?
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 13: what's the same everywhere because there is a an unseen
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 13: hand behind it all there's an unseen hand that has
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 13: to be guiding all these countries to self-destruction and then
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 13: when you see a country like hungary that stood up
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 13: and said no the u stood up and dick demanded
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 13: it began to find them threatened every threat they could
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 13: throw at them and who was doing that unelected bureaucrats
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 13: in brussels as i call them the tyrants of brussels
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 13: What I'm saying is that there is a force behind
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 13: all of this that is driving our politicians. You know,
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 13: we talk often about how the American people can't get
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 13: representation in Congress in what's supposed to be a representative republic,
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 13: controlled by a constitution designed to protect your rights and
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 13: limit their power. And yet none of it seems to
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 13: be working right, and it's exactly the same in every country.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 13: That unseen hand, people say, well, where's that coming from?
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 13: So there's a place in London.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, hang on one second. So just so I understand,
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: it's this manipulating that we see all over in this country,
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: bringing all these people in, watering down your citizenship, changing
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: your culture, going on in Germany and all these other places.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: The same thing is going on in all of them.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: And to change the makeup of the countries, the voting
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 1: of the country, the culture of the country. And you're saying, okay,
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 1: where's this originating from? who's guiding this evil agenda.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 13: And it's been going on for a very long time.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 13: It cannot be organically occurring in every country. And any
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 13: country that resists it can't be treated as a pariah
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 13: the way they are by every other country involved. I mean,
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 13: so it's organized. There's a force behind it. Because no
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 13: country would voluntarily destroy itself. And, you know, in the
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 13: United States, we're moving at maybe a different pace. We're
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 13: a little bit behind. Because we have this First Amendment
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 13: that protects speech, so they haven't been able to implement
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 13: hate speech laws. But in Canada and England, if you
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 13: say something online that the government doesn't like, they will
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 13: send six policemen to your home, they will arrest you,
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 13: and you could get two years in jail for a
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 13: social media post.
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: Think of what he just said, how hard it is
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: to imagine. This ever happening, did you ever dream that
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: this would happen? But say it as you did again.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 1: This is in Canada and Australia where you could get
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 1: the knock on the door for what they perceive to
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: be hate speech, which is just your opinion, and we're
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: going to take you away.
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 13: Yeah, Canada, Australia, the U.K., Germany. And they are actively
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 13: locking people up. In fact, there's one statistic about the U.K.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 13: that I think it was 2023, I think, was the number.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 13: and they locked up more people for speech violations than Russia. So,
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 13: you know, we perceive ourselves as being in these free nations,
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 13: but those freedoms are being eroded every single day. The
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 13: other thing that's characteristic of this is that from COVID
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 13: on and even before COVID, we've seen a massive transfer
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 13: of wealth. The middle class in the U.S. is being
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 13: pushed down. The working class is being crushed. Those that
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 13: are living on the dole are actually doing better in
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 13: many ways, especially if they can work with a fake
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 13: Social Security number. So there's a draining of all the
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 13: prosperity out of the middle class and a transference upward,
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 13: and it's trillions of dollars across the U.S., and certainly
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 13: if you include Europe. And it's the same again everywhere.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 13: And we're getting to a point where we have people
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 13: that we all know aren't subject to law, and yet
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 13: other people who are. And those that have committed no crimes,
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 13: and yet the law comes down on them, or maybe, again,
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 13: they said something someone didn't like. So the question many
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 13: people are now asking is, what is this unseen hand?
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 13: And where does this power come from? So there are
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 13: a bunch of theories around this, and a lot of
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 13: them center on this thing called the City of London,
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 13: which is about a one-square-mile spot in the middle of
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 13: the actual larger London. that's called the city of london
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  Speaker 13: it's a corporation it has its own set of rules
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  Speaker 13: it's been established for many many many many hundreds of
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 13: years it has a separate mayor that's you know supposed
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 13: to be sort of uh... ceremonial but in that city
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 13: of london is the financial district and when we heard
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 13: things like lloyd's of london suspending maritime insurance for ships
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 13: going through the street of our moves in order to
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 13: further damage trumps efforts in in iran Well, that was
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 13: Lloyd's of London, and who's that? That's the City of London.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 13: And who's behind that? Well, these are the people that
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 13: have been extremely wealthy for centuries. So, you know, there
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 13: are a few names that always pop around. It's, of course,
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 13: one of them is a newer name, the Rockefellers. You know,
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 13: there are the DuPonts, right, that are constantly associated with this.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 13: But the Rothschilds and the Warburgs are the most commonly
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 13: cited names. There's a family out of Italy that's talked
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 13: about a lot. So when they say the city of London,
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 13: it isn't actually the city of London. Now, we've also
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 13: got massive amounts of money being poured in from places
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 13: like Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Israel. Now, of course, Qatar
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 13: and Saudi Arabia are investing more, Israel a little less.
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 13: We've got China that is, through a bunch of programs,
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 13: pouring money in to influence our culture, our politics, to
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 13: steal intellectual property.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 9: With great success.
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 13: So what we're at really here, when you say why
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 13: can't the American people get representation in Congress, why can't
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 13: something like the SAVE Act that has 80% support among
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 13: American people not get passed? Why is our media constantly
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 13: lying to us about pretty much everything? That's because this
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 13: money that comes from the city of London, from some
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 13: of these Middle Eastern wealth sovereign funds, that comes from uh...
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 13: israel that comes from israel is in the united states
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 13: that comes from india where india's really focused on moving
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 13: their people here right the h one b two all
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 13: that and and outsourcing jobs to india everybody's played a
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 13: different game but behind this transition of the west from
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 13: the free prosperous safe secure uh... countries that they were
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 13: into these third world nations with a huge islamic focus
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 13: or or or power with uh... you know, following whatever
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 13: Israel says. You go to war, okay, we go to war.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 13: You know, accepting every H-1B that India wants to send here,
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 13: having companies like Cognizant run completely by Indians who refuse
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 13: to hire Americans, now being sued by the Department of
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 13: Justice for discriminating against Americans because they only bring in Indians.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 13: You know, there's this huge effort by a lot of
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 13: groups to feed off the carcass of the American system.
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 13: And then you've got us. The Americans who say, wait
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 13: a minute. We're doing CPR on this carcass. We don't
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 13: think it's dead yet. We want to fix this thing.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 13: The problem is we've got John Thune and Chuck Schumer
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 13: and Amy Klobuchar and Mike Johnson and all these traitors
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 13: in Congress who are working against us.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 9: And why is that?
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 13: Because the money's so good. you know and so we
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 13: go into the beef industry another industry to cut it
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 13: out how this happened but when you hear this thing
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 13: about the city of london it goes back to those
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 13: old names like rothschild who funds both sides of wars
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 13: they say right in warburg and and these old names
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 13: the people who created israel for example these old names
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 13: that that are associated with the old uh... royalty in
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 13: the old moneyed interests from centuries past who never truly
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 13: went away who just went out of view and then
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 13: hired people like obama and hired people like uh... but
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 13: like our congress to do their bidding and so so
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 13: we're in this position where the one group it doesn't
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 13: have the capital and and unfortunately has distracted numbers and
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 13: because our people are all confused uh... we're the one
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 13: group that that is uh... seemingly not active in this
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 13: fight So, you know, we've got to fix this. And
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 13: this could be a longer conversation. We go through China
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 13: and the Thousand Talents Program. And, you know, if you
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 13: look at Israel, they were spending a lot of money
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 13: on these podcasters and things, you know, this sort of
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 13: cultural effort. They've got a word for it. And that
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 13: increased something like fivefold in 25. They get the war launched.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 13: People are critical. They're now taking it up, I think,
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 13: fivefold again. It's going to be like 750. I don't know,
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 13: $ 30 million or something they're going to use to try
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 13: to make us convince the American people to follow Israel
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 13: and to not criticize Israel and that anti-Semitism is one
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 13: of our biggest national crises. Well, okay, they have a
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 13: specific reason to do that, and they've got the money
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 13: to put into it, so they're going to. Now, you know,
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 13: we've given Israel since October 7th, which is what, three
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 13: years ago, two and a half years ago, we've given
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 13: them the normal $ 3. 8 billion a year, but we've given
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 13: them another $ 17 billion in emergency funds, something like that.
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 13: So we're actually paying for them to influence us, right?
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 13: So there's this global cabal of interests, and you've heard
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 13: names like Bilderberg, and you've heard names like Davos and
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 13: World Economic Forum. They use the UN, the World Health Organization.
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 13: They use all these global institutions to try to drive
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 13: the West off this cliff. And what's the value of that? Well,
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 13: the value of that is they want to control our
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 13: military and use it for their interests and Tehran. They
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 13: want to control the money printer in D.C. and use
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 13: that for their own interests, hence the deficits and USAID
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 13: pumping a billion dollars a month out there or a
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 13: week out before Trump shut it down. You know, they
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 13: want to control the superpower and leech off of that
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 13: And in the end, they really want to control all
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 13: of the West and return it to the system they
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 13: had before, which is one of not communism or socialism.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 13: Those are sort of cute little terms that aren't real.
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 13: What's real is feudalism, where you've got this aristocracy that
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 13: serves a royalty. You've got a professional sort of technical
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 13: class that serves the aristocracy. You've got a couple different
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 13: groups there with distinct roles. you can never really advance up,
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 13: you know, let's face it. These trillionaires aren't being, um, uh,
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 13: they're not getting to their positions by merit. It's all
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 13: by inheritance, right? There's no merit in these, in these families.
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 13: It's just, listen, I'm a Rothschild. I got money, baby.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 13: You'll look at the Pritzkers in Chicago. You think they're,
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 13: they're meritorious achievers. You know, this clown that's the governor
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 13: of Illinois was like born with $ 3 billion. I bet his,
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 13: sister penny one day i'd like but i don't understand
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 13: what what's the what's the point somebody said well she
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 13: was born with three billion dollars like oh i get
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 13: the point right it's not merit that's why they're such
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 13: freaks and they're doing so much damage so so we
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 13: we as an american people have to ground ourselves realize
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 13: that we're watching fox it has specific interests when watching
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 13: cnn it's got specific interests We've got to ground ourselves
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 13: and think very carefully about what we're seeing every day.
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 13: And we have to fight very, very hard to save
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 13: the nation because we have very little time left.
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: And these people are the ones that are orchestrating this
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: in all these countries. Can I say real quickly, is
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 1: this the replacement theory? When I say the replacement theory,
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 1: replacing your citizenship primarily if you're white, incidentally, on a
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: race basis, if you're a white person replacing you.
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 13: Well, I would say it's slightly differently, but yes. So
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 13: there's a report that they put into their documents. Like,
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 13: I could go find this.
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 9: It's easy to find.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 13: But this is a written plan. It's not a theory.
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 13: It's not a conspiracy theory dreamed up in a fever pit,
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 13: you know. This is real. And the reason they hate
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 13: the Western culture, you know, the United States culture, the
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 13: reason they hate the Second Amendment is because it reduces
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 13: their power. In order to truly crush us, to use
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 13: us as the sheep that they want us to be..
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: Well, look at Iran. They might want to take over
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: a protest, but they stop, as they say, as soon
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 1: as they shoot five of them right in the head,
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: and you don't have any guns. So that tells you
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: why you need the Second Amendment. They can't fight.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 13: That's right. That's exactly right. But if you bring in
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 13: people from third-world countries... They have no understanding of freedom.
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 13: They've never, ever experienced it.
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 1: You water down my citizenship and my power.
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 13: Yes, and you bring in those people, they will do
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 13: anything for another slightly increased handout from the government, right?
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 1: And you change the entire makeup of a community.
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 13: Absolutely, and you change the culture, and then you rule
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 13: with impunity.
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 13: I know of a situation where there was a very
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 13: rich man who would see a woman on television entertainer.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 13: He was literally royalty. And he would say, I would
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 13: like to meet her. So his team would go out,
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 13: they'd pull her car over, they'd take her, she'd go
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 13: back to the palace. He would have sex with her,
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 13: and they'd have some drinks, maybe dinner, then a sex,
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 13: and then he'd send her home. She had no choice
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 13: to say no. But he would literally just see somebody
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 13: on TV and say, I want that, and she would
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 13: be gone. That kind of freedom, that kind of power,
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 13: that's what these people lust after.
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 3: And who suffers?
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 13: That's all of us. And so, you know, I guess
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 13: one of the challenges the American people don't truly understand
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 13: the war they're in, they don't even understand that it
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 13: is a war, and many of them, because they watch
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 13: CNN or they watch NBC, they are completely misguided, focused
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 13: on the wrong things. They worry about Trump being a
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 13: king despite this Constitution, the constant battles with these ridiculous judges,
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 13: but yet they support actual kings.
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 1: It's Hold that there. You said there were things on
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 1: the program you heard today that you want to address.
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to do it right after the break, okay?
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 26: Okay.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 1: Got it? All right. That's interesting because I want to
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 1: pick up on that yesterday. I want him to get
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 1: back to what he wanted to address on today's program
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 1: right after this. G2, Mordecai. I'm telling you, though, if
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  Speaker 1: address on the program today?
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 13: Well, first of all, you made a point to the woman,
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 13: Moderate Elaine, who... who kept saying you can't react to
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 13: what Spanberger's saying until she gets it implemented. And you
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 13: made a great point that you cannot wait until these
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 13: radicals implement policy and then try to unravel it. Once
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 13: it's implemented, it's done. She has, as you said, made
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 13: clear her purpose and mission and her plans. And she's
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 13: going to have to maybe fight it through the legislature.
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 13: It depends on whether or not the people in Virginia
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 13: are paying attention or not. But it is absolutely required
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 13: that you get at them while they're talking about it
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 13: in the early stages, because once they implement these rules,
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 13: you cannot get them repealed. Once they implement these taxes,
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 13: you can't get them out. So I thought your point
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 13: there was really well made. Now, on this primary, I've
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 13: got to tell you, this primary, I'm a little confused
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 13: by some of the rhetoric. We have to get some
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 13: analysis done, right? There's some analysis that should be done here.
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 13: to look, for example, at turnout over, you know, for
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 13: midterm primaries over a series of cycles so that you
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 13: really have the context to decide whether it was high
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 13: or low turnout. But when you've got 25 percent turnout
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 13: in a mid-cycle primary, that's pretty good, generally speaking. Now,
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 13: it doesn't seem like it, but it is because most
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 13: people simply aren't paying attention unless you've got a president
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 13: on there that is running.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 14: Uh..
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 13: I think that this challenge between the back end and
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 13: any act is going to be interesting because she really
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 13: hasn't been probably challenge very much i don't think he's
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 13: campaigned against her at all uh... but but the the
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 13: win there for him was decided that he's got a
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 13: couple issues he's got a resolve right one is if
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 13: you gotta try to turn uh... ohio into new delhi
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 13: if you get a good push h one bs and
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 13: bring people in he's got to make it crystal clear
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 13: that he's not going to do that but when you
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 13: listen to the policies he advocates and you think about
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 13: what amy acton did is she was killing people during
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 13: covid it's pretty clear which way to go Right? I mean,
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 13: you cannot vote for the person who shut down the
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 13: economy and told everybody to inject their children with poison.
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 13: So this is going to be an interesting race, and
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 13: to go with somebody who's totally unqualified will be a
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 13: radical departure. The other thing here is Vivek is going
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 13: to be funded. This isn't going to be one-sided like
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 13: most races where Democrats have a multiple of the funding
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 13: of the Republicans. So this is going to be a
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 13: fair fight. I think that's going to be interesting. But
• 2:48:04
  Speaker 13: because there were real contests in this primary, for example,
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 13: for Bohemian County Commissioner, that race, and because that was
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 13: being discussed with all the drama on this show and elsewhere, right,
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 13: but certainly the drama on this show and the constant
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 13: discussion on this show, you had more interest in that
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 13: race than most places have. In many places, there just
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 13: aren't contested primaries, so no one's going to vote. I
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 13: know people that vote all the time, never miss. and
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 13: are saying, hey, this cycle I may not vote in
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 13: my primary in my state because there's no contested primary. Actually,
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 13: there's some really good outcomes there. We'll have to dig
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 13: into it deeper.
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 21: From ABC News, I'm Dave Packer. Sources tell ABC News
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 21: the U.S. is now pursuing a short-term agreement with Iran.
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 26: Officials familiar with the matter tell ABC News a one-page
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 26: agreement that's currently on the table would see Iran easing its.
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 11: Grip on the Strait of Hormuz and the U.S.
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 26: Gradually lifting its blockade of ships heading to or from
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 26: Iranian ports. The agreement would be implemented over a 30-day period,
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 26: setting a timeline for both sides to work out a
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 26: more comprehensive deal that would focus on Iran's nuclear ambition.
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 2: ABC's Stephen Portnoy. This as the Pentagon says U.S.
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 21: Forces attacked and disabled an Iranian-flagged tanker today after it
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 21: tried to break through America's blockade. The cruise ship at
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 21: the center of the suspected hantavirus outbreak now on its
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 21: way to the Canary Islands. Earlier today, there were three
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 21: people evacuated from the ship. So far, the WHO has
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 21: confirmed five cases of the disease. Three of them were deadly.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 21: Anne Lindstrand, the World Health Organization's representative for Cape Verde.
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 7: Of all the confirmed cases with positive laboratory antivirus, they
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 7: have all been with symptoms.
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 21: A federal judge this afternoon unsealing a purported suicide note
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 21: by Jeffrey Epstein left behind before his first attempt to
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 21: kill himself that was found by a one-time cellmate.
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 2: The note ending with, quote, no fun, not worth it.
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 21: Meanwhile today, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick finished his closed-door testimony
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 21: to the House Oversight Committee, answering questions about his relationship
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 21: with Epstein, his former neighbor. Democrats on the committee slamming Lutnick,
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 21: saying that his assertions that he cut contact with Epstein
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 21: in 2005 turned out to be false.
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 2: Ro Khanna of California.
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  Speaker 15: If you saw the exchanges that my colleagues had with him,
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 15: you would see he made a farce of the English language.
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 21: Ludnick later admitted that he visited Epstein's private island with
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 21: his family back in 2012. And media mogul and cable
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 21: TV pioneer and CNN founder Ted Turner died today at 87.
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  Speaker 21: Texas has now responded to two mass shootings in less
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  Speaker 12: The second mass shooting happened inside a Cajun restaurant just
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  Speaker 12: outside Austin. This man was waiting to pick up a friend.
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  Speaker 15: I was already in my car.
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  Speaker 2: I put it in gear and just took off. Somebody's shooting.
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  Speaker 12: One person was killed.
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  Speaker 2: ABC's Jim Ryan.
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  Speaker 21: The University of Vermont has opened a new extreme weather
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  Speaker 21: monitoring station in Lindenville. It's the first of roughly 20
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  Speaker 21: stations planned across the state. Developers say the goal is
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  Speaker 21: to fill gaps in extreme weather predictions and response. It's
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  Speaker 21: Wildfire Preparedness Week in California, where officials are reminding residents
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Fire Department.
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  Speaker 21: Air Operations Crew Chief Johnny Gray says they're applying lessons
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  Speaker 21: learned from last year's devastating fires.
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  Speaker 28: We have pilots that are well-trained and very skilled in
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  Speaker 28: dropping water onto the flanks of the fire. We have
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  Speaker 28: crew chiefs and crew members that that are trained to
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  Speaker 21: Gray says this year is extra challenging given upcoming events
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  Speaker 21: like the World Cup. Houston's Carlos Carrera has a torn
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  Speaker 21: tendon in his left ankle that will require season-ending surgery.
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  Speaker 21: He says it's a complete tear and recovery will take
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  Speaker 21: six to eight months. The injury happened while Carrera was
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  Speaker 21: taking swings in the batting cage before a game against
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  Speaker 27: Dave Packer, ABC News. Hot summer days and high energy
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• 2:53:40
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