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INTERVIEW: Eve Talks Motherhood, Ruff Ryders Brotherhood, Jay-Z's Advice, Overcoming Alcoholism + More · The Breakfast Club

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: The breakfast Club, Yes.
• 0:04
  Speaker 3: Morning, everybody's dj Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club.
• 0:10
  Speaker 3: Jess is out on maternity leave, so we have lour
• 0:12
  Speaker 3: la rosa feeling.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: And then we got a special guest in.
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: The building, the legendary Her book.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Is out right now. Who's that girl?
• 0:20
  Speaker 4: Ev? E?
• 0:20
  Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, Eve, what's up? Morney?
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Y'all welcome? Good morning?
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: How you feel? How you feel?
• 0:25
  Speaker 6: I feel good, I'm jet lag, but I'm good. Oh
• 0:26
  Speaker 6: you just got him like Saturday and my kids with me,
• 0:29
  Speaker 6: so yeah, good but good. Happy to be here.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: You got the memoir out, man, who's that girl?
• 0:34
  Speaker 4: One thing you tell folks right out the gate is
• 0:37
  Speaker 4: how much you initially hated the name Eve?
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: Could you explain that for the people who haven't ready
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: to book yet?
• 0:42
  Speaker 6: Yes, this is the first time I got this question. Actually, yes,
• 0:45
  Speaker 6: because I thought I was cursed because I grew up
• 0:48
  Speaker 6: Jehovah's witness, my Grandma's Jehovah's witness and religious and Eve
• 0:52
  Speaker 6: was the one who made the evil happen in the world.
• 0:55
  Speaker 6: She gave the apple to Adam, so I actually literally
• 0:58
  Speaker 6: for years thought that I was cursed having that name.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I grew h it too.
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  Speaker 4: You're the first person that ever made me look at
• 1:03
  Speaker 4: that from that perspective, because most people just say Eve
• 1:05
  Speaker 4: is the first lady lady.
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  Speaker 6: No, I felt like, well, damn it, she's she's responsible
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  Speaker 6: for evil, like because people used to say to me
• 1:12
  Speaker 6: when I was a kid, like you, oh, you you
• 1:14
  Speaker 6: gave Adam. That gave Adam the apple, like literally, and
• 1:17
  Speaker 6: I'm like that's crazy. Why would you say that to
• 1:19
  Speaker 6: a kid? Also like yes, like I don't fucking know him,
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  Speaker 6: but yeah, no, I really did think I was cursed.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: But then you love your name, Eve Johan because you
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: find out what he meant.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Jahan means uh universe, Eve means first lady. And
• 1:34
  Speaker 6: my mom was obsessed with Shah Jahan that built the
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  Speaker 6: taj mahll and she changed a letter and then I
• 1:39
  Speaker 6: was like, wow, Eve Johan, like that's a big deal,
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  Speaker 6: Like and yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Love my name now, first Lady of the universe.
• 1:45
  Speaker 6: First Lady of the universe.
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  Speaker 7: How funny of your life was that switched from I
• 1:49
  Speaker 7: hated to yeah, I'm embracing it, Like how old were you?
• 1:51
  Speaker 6: I was honestly even thirties, late twenties, thirties because I
• 1:55
  Speaker 6: was still in I don't know, I was such a
• 1:58
  Speaker 6: tormented person within mind myself. It took a while. It
• 2:01
  Speaker 6: was years also that I just didn't trust myself. And
• 2:05
  Speaker 6: I talk about in the book, like with drinking and stuff.
• 2:08
  Speaker 6: I just didn't trust myself. So it took it took
• 2:10
  Speaker 6: a while.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: I was reliving all these memories, right because a lot
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: of these I.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: Feel naked in this book.
• 2:18
  Speaker 6: I talk about a lot in this book. I definitely
• 2:22
  Speaker 6: we re read stuff. I definitely was like, do I
• 2:26
  Speaker 6: really want to put this stuff out here? But I
• 2:28
  Speaker 6: was like, I think it's important. I think it's important
• 2:31
  Speaker 6: for myself. I think it's important for my kid. I
• 2:34
  Speaker 6: don't want to bring any of my ship onto my kid.
• 2:39
  Speaker 6: But and it's so cheesy to say, but you know,
• 2:41
  Speaker 6: it's what's that saying? What you what? You what you reveal?
• 2:44
  Speaker 6: You can heal what? Yes, exactly, And it's like, I
• 2:49
  Speaker 6: just feel like I need to shed some of that ship.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: What was the most difficult thing to write in the book.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: What was the hardest part the hardest if anything?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, there was, yeah, listen, I tried. We was editing
• 3:04
  Speaker 6: kind of and then I was like, fuck it, lots
• 3:09
  Speaker 6: of it. I think, being really vulnerable, vulnerable about my
• 3:13
  Speaker 6: drinking for real, because I talked about it when I
• 3:16
  Speaker 6: was on the Talk. I talked about it. Yes, I
• 3:18
  Speaker 6: had an issue, but I don't even think I actually
• 3:20
  Speaker 6: admitted it to myself. Also the fact that I had
• 3:24
  Speaker 6: I had this ep topic pregnancy when I was on
• 3:26
  Speaker 6: my sitcom that I never told anybody about. And I
• 3:30
  Speaker 6: actually did not even recognize it until I was ready
• 3:33
  Speaker 6: to get pregnant with my kid. So I never even
• 3:36
  Speaker 6: dealt with it at all. So that was really hard.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: What made you deal with it now? You felt like
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: there's other woman probably.
• 3:41
  Speaker 6: Dealing with it percent and the frustration of being a woman.
• 3:44
  Speaker 6: And I talked about this the last time when I
• 3:46
  Speaker 6: was here with the Crew of Queens and we talked
• 3:49
  Speaker 6: about well, I mentioned about endometriosis and having fibroids and
• 3:56
  Speaker 6: shit like that and how doctors just don't listen to
• 3:58
  Speaker 6: you and having to go get a specialists to find
• 4:00
  Speaker 6: out that I had that. And I think it's just important.
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  Speaker 6: There's so many women that are suffering with infertility, and
• 4:08
  Speaker 6: lots of definitely lots of black women. Lots of my
• 4:10
  Speaker 6: friends are still suffering. So yeah, I think it's just important.
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  Speaker 7: I know that was back in two thousand and six. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: and I've actually been through that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So when I heard you talk.
• 4:20
  Speaker 7: About it in the book, I was like, oh, shoot,
• 4:21
  Speaker 7: because it's like it just happens, like you don't even
• 4:24
  Speaker 7: know what happens.
• 4:24
  Speaker 5: Yep. After that happened, when you were.
• 4:27
  Speaker 7: Looking to have your baby that you have, now, were
• 4:30
  Speaker 7: you a bit nervous about like if it would work out,
• 4:32
  Speaker 7: or like would you be safe during the pregnancy, Like
• 4:34
  Speaker 7: what were your thoughts?
• 4:35
  Speaker 6: I was so nervous. I was so anxi and I'm
• 4:38
  Speaker 6: an anxiety written person, which is why I drink and
• 4:40
  Speaker 6: smoked so much weed to try to chill myself out.
• 4:44
  Speaker 6: I was so anxious. I was so nervous, and I
• 4:47
  Speaker 6: talk about in the book how I was like anxiety
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  Speaker 6: master level when I was pregnant on the set of Queens,
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  Speaker 6: because I was like, here, it is okay, I'm working,
• 4:54
  Speaker 6: which is great, and I'm so grateful and blessed, but
• 4:58
  Speaker 6: is it to the detriment of my kid? Like am
• 5:00
  Speaker 6: I gonna lose this baby? Like I was literally going
• 5:02
  Speaker 6: to the doctor trying to hear the heartbeat just so
• 5:04
  Speaker 6: I could feel calm on set. So yeah, I was scared.
• 5:08
  Speaker 6: I was really really scared. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy when you were younger and you
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  Speaker 4: don't know what anxiety and I guess you know the
• 5:15
  Speaker 4: depression is. Yeah, we all have those coping mechanisms because
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: they're all around. So whether it's in the lifestyle, in
• 5:20
  Speaker 4: the hood, just growing up, you see family members drinking
• 5:22
  Speaker 4: and then I know hip hop didn't help.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, smoked some more. What the fuck are
• 5:30
  Speaker 6: you crying? It's fine, I have a drink, Like no,
• 5:32
  Speaker 6: hell no, because everybody was doing it. Also, nobody was
• 5:34
  Speaker 6: using these words. Nobody was talking about anxiety, nobody was
• 5:36
  Speaker 6: talking about mental health, nobody's talking about depression. Like literally,
• 5:39
  Speaker 6: it was just like, all right, well you'll be all right,
• 5:42
  Speaker 6: you be all right, you be all right like that.
• 5:44
  Speaker 6: It was what it was, was.
• 5:46
  Speaker 4: What it was when you realized you had a problem,
• 5:48
  Speaker 4: like you just.
• 5:49
  Speaker 6: Honestly, my d u I, my DUI was the time
• 5:53
  Speaker 6: that and not not even just the moment of the dui.
• 5:56
  Speaker 6: It was when I couldn't drink. It was when they
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  Speaker 6: told me I had to where the ankle thing and
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  Speaker 6: I have for drinking, Yeah, because what was it? You know,
• 6:05
  Speaker 6: back then they were giving out them fucking things for
• 6:07
  Speaker 6: some reason in La Yeah, the ankle monitor. For some reason,
• 6:09
  Speaker 6: they were giving them because they could tell through your
• 6:11
  Speaker 6: blood who that if you were drinking. So I had
• 6:14
  Speaker 6: fifty six days where I couldn't drink, and I was
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  Speaker 6: so scared of that fifty six days because I couldn't
• 6:19
  Speaker 6: remember a time where I hadn't drank. So I even
• 6:22
  Speaker 6: begged my lawyer at the time, like, can I go
• 6:24
  Speaker 6: do community service at a hospice? Can I go? Like,
• 6:27
  Speaker 6: I'll do anything, and she was like, no, this is
• 6:29
  Speaker 6: what you have to do and say and I say
• 6:33
  Speaker 6: this in the book. It saved my life because it
• 6:34
  Speaker 6: was the first time in a very long actually not
• 6:37
  Speaker 6: even a very long time. It was the first time
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  Speaker 6: I ever sat with my fucking emotions like, actual, why
• 6:41
  Speaker 6: am I drinking? What am I trying to cover up?
• 6:43
  Speaker 6: Why am I trying to numb myself? What is the problem?
• 6:46
  Speaker 6: And I had to sit with my shit and I
• 6:48
  Speaker 6: cried a fucking lot, and I needed it. I needed
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  Speaker 6: it well.
• 6:52
  Speaker 5: It was the biggest moment.
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  Speaker 7: And when when you were sitting with yourself what was
• 6:55
  Speaker 7: the biggest thing where you're like, dang, like I'm really
• 6:57
  Speaker 7: dealing with this.
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  Speaker 5: I can't believe this is something I have to deal with.
• 7:00
  Speaker 6: Well cause I lived in l A too, so I
• 7:02
  Speaker 6: had a psychic lady. And I say that because you
• 7:05
  Speaker 6: know how it is in LA. But I believe you
• 7:07
  Speaker 6: know that Ship. I don't care some people are really
• 7:09
  Speaker 6: that's a media at a media. No, I don't. But
• 7:13
  Speaker 6: if you know somebody, no, Because so she was very
• 7:19
  Speaker 6: like and I and I take it for what is worth.
• 7:21
  Speaker 6: I take it for his word. She was very good.
• 7:24
  Speaker 6: She wasn't the type, she wasn't scary. She was just
• 7:26
  Speaker 6: like she just could read you, and it was more
• 7:29
  Speaker 6: like energetically. She was just like at one point I
• 7:32
  Speaker 6: would call her for everything because I didn't trust myself.
• 7:35
  Speaker 6: And one day she fired me and she was like no,
• 7:40
  Speaker 6: She was like, you're depending on me for too much.
• 7:42
  Speaker 6: She was like, I have to let you go really,
• 7:44
  Speaker 6: and I was like, oh, Ship, And that's why I
• 7:51
  Speaker 6: know she was good.
• 7:51
  Speaker 7: My friends who got fired by their therapists are like
• 7:53
  Speaker 7: really messed up. So how did you get fired by its?
• 7:56
  Speaker 4: I know?
• 7:56
  Speaker 5: Did she call what was that called?
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  Speaker 4: Literally?
• 7:58
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't even honestly, I would be like, can you
• 8:00
  Speaker 6: come do an energy clearing over here? Can you come
• 8:02
  Speaker 6: do this? And she was like. At one point I
• 8:03
  Speaker 6: called her and I was like just in this dark
• 8:05
  Speaker 6: place and she was like, you know what you need
• 8:07
  Speaker 6: to do. I am not responsible for you. You have
• 8:10
  Speaker 6: to figure this out. And this was during that time
• 8:13
  Speaker 6: the Duy. This was all that shit where I was
• 8:15
  Speaker 6: just trying to figure shit out and I at the
• 8:18
  Speaker 6: end of the day, you cannot look outside yourself, does
• 8:21
  Speaker 6: not matter who it is or what they do. You
• 8:23
  Speaker 6: have to look within. And that shit sounds cliche now
• 8:26
  Speaker 6: too sometimes, but it's the fucking real. It's the reallest
• 8:29
  Speaker 6: thing ever. So yeah, it just forced me to sit
• 8:32
  Speaker 6: with myself, talk to myself, go back to my roots,
• 8:34
  Speaker 6: go pray. Well, you know what I'm saying, Like, what.
• 8:37
  Speaker 7: Was that moment in LA that you were about to
• 8:38
  Speaker 7: talk about When that was like this like the really
• 8:40
  Speaker 7: big dark moment that you got, It was just.
• 8:42
  Speaker 6: It was me crying on the floor, depression, crying, crying
• 8:45
  Speaker 6: in a closet like literally and calling her like literally
• 8:48
  Speaker 6: calling her that's why I brought her up, and just
• 8:50
  Speaker 6: being like listen, I need you to help me figure
• 8:51
  Speaker 6: this out, and she's like, no, no, I'm sorry, like
• 8:54
  Speaker 6: you need to figure this out.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: At that time where we're friends, family, associates.
• 8:59
  Speaker 6: So my other issue is that I push people away.
• 9:06
  Speaker 6: And that's another thing that I realized is emotionally, I
• 9:10
  Speaker 6: didn't grow up in a family that really talked. We
• 9:12
  Speaker 6: didn't say I love you, we didn't say I hate you.
• 9:15
  Speaker 6: If shit was bad, we screamed. Also, you just knew
• 9:17
  Speaker 6: you were loved. So I really just didn't know about
• 9:19
  Speaker 6: I didn't know communication. And I always felt like my
• 9:23
  Speaker 6: mom had me young, so I feel like we grew
• 9:25
  Speaker 6: up together, so I always felt like I needed to
• 9:26
  Speaker 6: be independent. She raised me very independent, fiercely independent. So
• 9:30
  Speaker 6: I think I was just like I need to deal
• 9:31
  Speaker 6: with the shit on my own. Plus I'm a scorpio,
• 9:33
  Speaker 6: like I think it has a lot to do with that.
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know, so, how were you as a
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: parent now, because I think my parents, probably Charlemagne's parents,
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: those older parents were always they never really show much love.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: They never said I love you. You knew it was there.
• 9:46
  Speaker 6: And Philly like, listen, you better just get on with it.
• 9:51
  Speaker 6: I'm a fucking smother mother. I am a mother. I'm like,
• 9:56
  Speaker 6: and he's already like, Mama, get off me. But I
• 9:59
  Speaker 6: am so And I was actually scared that I wouldn't connect,
• 10:03
  Speaker 6: I swear to god. I was like, And my assister
• 10:06
  Speaker 6: in law told me that too, she has three kids,
• 10:07
  Speaker 6: and she was like, don't feel weird, because some women
• 10:10
  Speaker 6: sometimes just don't connect immediately. And I just thought, possibly
• 10:15
  Speaker 6: because of the way I grew up, maybe I won't
• 10:17
  Speaker 6: be you know what I'm saying. And it makes me
• 10:20
  Speaker 6: emotional because like, so, it's just it's a freedom. It's
• 10:26
  Speaker 6: so fucking nice. It's so fucking nice, and I fucking like,
• 10:30
  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna he's gonna be fucking spoiled and he's
• 10:33
  Speaker 6: gonna get away with a lot of ship.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: But are you Are you raising him out of fear
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: or love?
• 10:39
  Speaker 6: Now that is a good question. Love for sure, love.
• 10:47
  Speaker 6: But I tackle with fear. I tackle with fear.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but you but you want him to be
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: in a position where he really calls mom regardless, you know,
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: because he even growing up, you call your parents when
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: you had to, had to. But now my son, he's
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: about to be twenty one, he calls his mom for everything,
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: And I love their relationship. Yeah, because I know that
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: if something happens, Mom, God iss back.
• 11:09
  Speaker 6: You know that's real. I do because I could talk
• 11:12
  Speaker 6: to my mom buck and not and it's not her fault.
• 11:14
  Speaker 6: Like me and my mom now are like, it's not
• 11:17
  Speaker 6: her fault. It's how she grew up. I was scared
• 11:18
  Speaker 6: of my fucking mother, which is fine. I think a
• 11:20
  Speaker 6: little fear is important.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I probably scared for you growing up
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: on Murder Street, right. That's why I asked, what the
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: are you raising them out of fear of love?
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: Because my parents raise us out of fear because they
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: didn't want us to end up in a bad situation.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: I end up like them like my dad.
• 11:37
  Speaker 6: No, I look at and i'm you know, I look
• 11:39
  Speaker 6: at where we live, where I'm at, Like I wake up,
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: I walk down the streets and like, damn, I live
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: in London, Like it's crazy, Like I still think like that.
• 11:46
  Speaker 6: I'm forty five, like you know, but I also appreciate it.
• 11:49
  Speaker 6: I also feel like I am greatly like thankful, and
• 11:54
  Speaker 6: I'm also greatly thankful that my kid's life is so
• 11:56
  Speaker 6: far removed.
• 11:57
  Speaker 8: You shot every now and then just to you know,
• 12:00
  Speaker 8: don't keep it never.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Another good part in the book is the unbeknownst to
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: jay Z, he put a battery in your back.
• 12:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, early, yes, Yes, it's funny because that was one
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: of those things that we were like, do we put
• 12:15
  Speaker 6: this in there, because I know how people get But
• 12:17
  Speaker 6: it's nothing bad about that, you know, It's It's one
• 12:21
  Speaker 6: of those things where it was a very amazing phone
• 12:25
  Speaker 6: call that I needed. That was one of those I
• 12:27
  Speaker 6: always felt like I was an underdog anyway. And he
• 12:30
  Speaker 6: wasn't saying it out of malice or mean. That wasn't
• 12:32
  Speaker 6: about that. It was facts.
• 12:34
  Speaker 8: Really it felt like he was trying to temple your expectation,
• 12:36
  Speaker 8: Yes exactly.
• 12:37
  Speaker 6: But I was like, hh, okay, let me see. I'm
• 12:41
  Speaker 6: gonna show you. Yeah, it's all good. It's all good.
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: And it went on to be fine. But and like
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: I say in the book, we all have that person
• 12:50
  Speaker 6: that's something no matter what industry or whatever. You know
• 12:53
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, we all have that thing or someone
• 12:56
  Speaker 6: says something they don't even fucking know that you're like, Okay,
• 13:00
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna use that, no problem.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: One of the dopest things I love is you talk
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: about your big brothers in the industry, right, because you
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: don't really hear that that much, And how Rough Riders
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: and all of them, you know, kind of was your
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: big brothers to make sure they protected you. Talk about
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: that a little bit because in this industry you hear
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: so many crazy stories. But they were showing up with knives,
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: guns and everything they needed to make sure you were safe.
• 13:19
  Speaker 6: Listen, I was so fucking protected. I'm so forever grateful
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: as well that Rough Riders is the crew that I
• 13:26
  Speaker 6: come from. They respected me, protected me, celebrated me, allowed
• 13:32
  Speaker 6: me to be me at all times. And yeah, if
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: they had to shake you, niggasn't.
• 13:43
  Speaker 7: That's one of the things I was wondering about. That's
• 13:45
  Speaker 7: how I was so excited to meet you. I was like,
• 13:46
  Speaker 7: I wonder how.
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: Much how Philly she's still gonna be?
• 13:48
  Speaker 6: No Philly, I never that can never go, That can
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: never ever go. I do say words now and then
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: I will say my managers that he's from London. I
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: will say because for my baby, I try to keep
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: ship like consistent. So I do say rubbish sometimes and
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: I do say jumper, but Philly is always always. You
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: can't take it out of me. You can't take it
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: out of me.
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: Your baby's a bit older now, I know.
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: I saw you talk about exposing your husband to like
• 14:14
  Speaker 7: Eve from Philly, Like, whatever, how do you what?
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: Are you having those conversations with your baby yet?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: Is he back and forth? Like, are you doing that
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: exposure to Yes?
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: No, he comes back and forth to Philly. Will be
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: there in a few days. He was just there a
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: few months ago, playing with his cousins, like and I
• 14:28
  Speaker 6: love that because it's a different vibe and I love that,
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: and I feel like he needs that, and it's gonna
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: be such a rich childhood for him because England is
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: so different and his cousins. Yes, he does, he says, garage, garage,
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: Wait till he says, John, Wait, I need to start
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: teaching him that now.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and the things fall apart.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Chapter you said that you feel like the spirit of
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: the rough Riders died with DMX God blessed the dead
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: when that r r chapter of your life clothes. Did
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: you you feel a sense of grief with that as well?
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes and no. Yes in the sense of obviously
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: with X because of X one, but know in the
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: sense that we've all kind of gone off and been
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: doing our own shit for so long in between all
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: of that, because you know, before he died, may he
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: rest we were supposed to do a rough riut of tour.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: We have been talking about a rough out of tour,
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: so yes and no, Yes and no.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I always wanted to know the Rough Riders record, right, yeah,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: the remix when you were on it?
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Did you know what it was? As soon as you
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: heard that record? Break that down? When as soon as
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: you heard Rough Riders anthem and.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: Oh no, you know what?
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: I knew. I knew it was a fucking dope verse.
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: I did know that. I was like, nah, this this
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: is this is because this is the thing. The way
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: that they had us all in the studio, it was
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: healthy competition. So I knew that verse. I knew it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: I was like, this is the verse. I didn't know
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: what it was going to do from that, but I
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: knew that I was holding my own I didn't really
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: feel it until I heard it on the radio and
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: I was like, wow, that's what I sound like like.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: And I didn't sound like they were carrying me like
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: I knew it, Like I was like, okay, I'm supposed.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: To be here.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Was that that moment that I.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Was that moment that on the radio. That was that moment.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask you get tired of
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: telling the same stories over and over, right, because listening
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: to your hip hop stories since you've been up here,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: since we finally I know the stories.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Like I know the May story.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: I know I'm forty six.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Lauren, who's thirty two, it's brand new to her.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: I knew the main story.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: I'm from Delaware though, so the way we connected Delaware, No,
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: but Eve, it's right there, Like, yeah, so I knew
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: that only because of that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: But there are a lot of people.
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: I saw people reacting online when when like episodes of
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: the book were being picked up who didn't know that?
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: Does that freak you out at all? Like when people
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: are like some of it? Because what's what's annoying to me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: I was talking about this the other day. It was
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: annoying to me is yes, like I've talked about the
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: stripper thing, right. What's annoying to me about it, though,
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: is that people fixate so much on it still that
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: I'm like, bitch, I was eighteen, it was I was
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: too long, it was toomn and I was lazy and
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: the craziest thing about that is not that I was stripper,
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: I was just saying it yesterday, is that I was
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: rapping with my tenmies, Like that's the crazier thing. And
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: on top of.
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: That, but but on top of that, the revelation of
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: that is the situation that happened with the conversation, and
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: that no one chooses to go there and say like,
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: oh damn, that was a dope moment.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: No, she's just a fucking st like, bro, are you serious?
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: Like so that annoys me and I actually that was
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: one of those things where I was like, do we
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: put this in the book again? But then I felt
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: like people who did know my story might be like, oh, well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: why shouldn't talk about that? So yeah, I don't know. Yes,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: it gets annoying, but that's I think that was another
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: reason for doing this book, because I'm like, these are
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: the stories. Yes, there's some shit that I have already
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: talked about. I will go deeper on that and then
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: now I'm good. Now it's time to move on.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: But it's also because got a new resurgence. What it shows.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, yes that's true, that's true, but but no,
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: crazily enough, people don't even say his name to me.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: They just talked about the stripping really yes, like it's crazy.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically just telling you don't have to do this.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was literally telling me. He was
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: just like, what do you want to do? He was
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: he was the first person that really asked those questions
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: where I was already questioning why am I here? What
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: the fuck am I doing?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: For the record, every man says that to the badest script,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: you don't have to the girls do it too.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like that, I do have the girl outside of here, but.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: I do that as well.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my friends be like, please put Lawrence cash up
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: away because she just because I'd be like, dang you
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: in nursing school.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: All of y'all in nurses school.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Did the TV show Eve? Yes, the name of the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: show was Eve. Yeah, but your character's name Michelle. I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: know why.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: That's what the network wanted. And then they was like, oh,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: like the Cosby's where it was they were the Huxtables,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: but his name was Cosby, so everybody knew to show
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: trust me. I tried to fight him. They I had.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: I tried to fight him.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: That's another part of your life. I feel like doesn't
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: get talked about enough. You had a sitcom to me,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: That did well?
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that did well. I was very very lucky it
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: did well. And I didn't take it as seriously as
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: I feel like I should have or could have. And
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: I talk about that in the book. I don't believe
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: in regrets, but probably that's my only one of my
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: only ones where I just didn't take it as seriously
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: as I could have. Would different I would have shown
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: up to table reads, not coming straight from the club.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: I would not be having after parties in my dressing
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: room I was doing, Yeah, but I was the youngest
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: one set and I was trying to figure out how
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: I was a real rapper, Like literally, like I was
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: having after party. We've come from the club, go to
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: my dressing room, and then I'm like I gotta be
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: on set, like and did not realizing like how many people,
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: how many the crew? You know what I'm saying. Like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: So I just I really would have done that differently.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, does Eve care about the industry at all at
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: this point.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: In earlier No, not really, Yeah, not really, not in
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: the same way. Definitely not, I think because I did
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: go through so much torment within myself that now it's
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: kind of PTSD to a certain extent. So I feel
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: like that's why I do dip in and out, because
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: I know, I think it's I think it's healthy for me.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: What was the torment?
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: Because you keep talking about questioning yourself, second guessing yourself
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: and non torment, like, what was it?
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: It was all personal shit. It was all personal shit
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: mixed with I don't think. I think at the time,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: I probably was depressed, but I just didn't know it, honestly,
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: which is why I did drink as much as I drank.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: But I just didn't understand it. I just didn't know it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: And I also did have no one to talk to
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: about it. The times that I would go cry to people,
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: they'd be like, You'd be all right, like you know
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So then I'm like, well, what's wrong
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: with me? Like literally, okay, then maybe I'm I don't know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: maybe I'm not supposed to be here. It was a
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: lot of that kind of questioning am I truly happy?
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Am I only doing? And is this what I'm supposed
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: to be doing? And then I think, yeah, it was.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: It was a lot of my own personal torment.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: It really was.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to ask about.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You know the cat woman comment. Right, Oh, like people
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: forget who you are and all the things that you do.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Work for a long long what is that?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: What does that come from? Like, like, do y'all.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: Know there's nothing, there's.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: No listen if you could do it, if you get great,
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: God bless you. If that's what you want and that's
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: who you are. I have zero personally, I have zero
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: problems with it. I think it's a disservice to who
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I am and what I've done and what I built
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: for myself. That's why I have a problem with it. Like, yeah, okay, yeah,
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: I married this dude. I'm not gonna marry a broke dude.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: That's real, Like, but he's not. I think people also
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: put on him more than what he is, and he's
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: not that we we do stuff for each other together,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Like he's just a dude I fell in love with.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Like he's a billionaire, right, he's not a billionaire?
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, because that was always the headlines.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Even I'm like, and that's why I'm like, no, he's
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: not a billionaire.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: A bird by the way he looked.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Millions, you know.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: No.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, like, no, I'm not I'm
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: not kept. If I didn't want to work, it'd be fine.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: But it's just who I am to the core, to
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: my DNA, like I just it's just who I am.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And how was the transition to London? When you decided
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to move to London?
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: It was one place though, it was one place and
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: it was good and they were from the They did
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: have Ammarosso's bread, which was the good bread, but then
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: I think they shut down.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, So how was moving to million sixty million?
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Where the billionaire thing came from?
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I think maybe because he's white and British.
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: You never said.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I swear to God that matter in
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: fact checked that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I just maybe because he is white in British.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: I thought, because I'm gonna be honest, I never.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Said it was you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: And then it was Remember when Rihanna was with the Yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: they had like photos of y'all like girls, we can
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: do it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: We can know it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: There were means. Yeah, that's why I remember how much
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: money I thought he was worth.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So I was a transition to moving to London.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: No cheese steak, No, it was hard. The first two
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: years were really brutal, definitely, and I still have moments
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: where I missed, like conveniences and things. I know. British people,
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: I love you because you're different.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You good, You use.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: The warm, but some of them ain't warm. Some of
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: them could be cold. It's hard to get in there,
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: Like it took a minute. It takes a minute. It
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: takes a minute, and it's still weird and different. But
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: I've been there ten years, like it is actually home.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Like so when you get a presidential race, you'd be like, God,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna stay in lonon.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: No, but I'm still vote. And from that I already
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: put in my ABSENCEY make sure y'all get like, because
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: it's important because I'm still American. I am American, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: I do care what happens here because at once, at
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: some point, I want to come back with my kids,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: so he experience I wanted to go to college here,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: like that is my goal, Like I want him to
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: come back, and I pray by then that the country
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: is what it needs to be.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: All imagine being Eve's kid in college. Your dad we
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: already thought to you dad was a billionaire. Your mom
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: is Eve, and you just pop up in college with
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: this crazy accent that people are gonna love seeing John
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: like he's gonna have a great time in college.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: We gotta talk about NYU. What are you?
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I am Professor Jeffu's cooper. Now I'm doing
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: there Steinhardt residency year residency. So basically I get to
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: teach whatever I want or just come and just I
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: won't say vibe because it's more than that. But it's
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: like conversations about who I am, what I am, what
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: they offer, and then we're gonna do like a big
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: event in the spring with some of the students from there,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: the musicians, everything like that. So this is a huge
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: deal for me because I mean I never knew this
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: was even available, Like I would have never even thought
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: this was something. So I'm very very honored to be
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: there that. Yeah, what is it called residency? But is
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: it scholar and resident?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yes? So do you have to be there?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: It'll be I do so.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: No, so I have to do two. I'm doing my
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: first event next Saturday, just like meet and greet, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: then I do my first official one in November.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You have a curriculum and everything.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, first official one in November, I'm going to do
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: one in London, and then in the spring back here
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: and then if I want to continue, then we'll see
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: what happens.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: But when you're here, does your family, like your husband
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: and all you guys kids come with you.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: The baby is here, but my husband is doing gumball,
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: which is how we met. His rally it's my first
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: one I haven't done in ten years. But and then
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: in Asia, so hi baby, Yeah, we met on the gumball.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: I was driving on the gum ball.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a long drive.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: It's three thousand miles and seven days much. I know
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: it's a lot. But you need coal driver, Just get
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: a dope even get like to look at me selling it. Listen,
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: two coal drivers, somebody for the music, somebody to make
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: sure you could drink one night and then then the
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: next person drive. Like, if you want to do it,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: I will map it out for you. I promise. It's
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: something I feel like everybody should experience.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do it and then broadcast from the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: different countries.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: No, I'm telling you do it, and I swear and
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: I'm not even saying it just because I'm his wife.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: It's one of the best times I've ever had. That
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: when when that week comes around, like I'm really sad.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: I'm missing it, like really sad. But I mean bum
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Beat does it, and my big bro like he does
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: it every year, so please do it. Y'all should do it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Y'all should do it next year.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I know that, No, do it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I can't commit to that doing my anxiety set up.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: You can drive. It's not a race, it's a rally.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: It's a lot for him. Oh yeah, it's a lot.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: It is a lot.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: You bored because you are creative, you know what I'm saying,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: just like okay, okay.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: No, Well, because I don't drink or anything like that anymore.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: I do. I have an occasional drink. I ain't smoking
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: weed in London, no disrespect to anybody in London, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: it's just different. I don't know to write people. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: know one dude that's smoke, but I don't even know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: like I'm cool, So I've stopped. I've stopped, but yeah, no,
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know. My son is everything. And then I
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: chill like I do chill. But I did say this
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: to a friend of mine. I'm not doing anything creatively
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: to feed my soul. I mean this book helped a lot,
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: just writing because I shout out to Kathy by the way,
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: my co writer. She's amazing and has her own credits
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: and amazing books on her own. But writing doing this
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: process with her actually helped me a lot. And we're
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: already thinking about the next book. So yeah, but I
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: do need to do more creative things to feed my soul.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: I believe that you still all I write poems more.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: I went back to that because that's where I kind
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: of first started that being said. We are talking about
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: because this book also falls around the twenty fifth anniversary
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: of my first album, so yes, let that be eve.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: So we are talking about reworking stuff to put it
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: out next year, so there will be some new stuff
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: next year.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: If you rework stuff or like do anything music wise,
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: would you add any of the new girl artists.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I definitely want to. I definitely want to. We're still
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: talking about top three go to Yeah, I don't know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: That's hard.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: I ain't even gonna lie because we've been talking about it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: Because ultimately, I don't want to do anything that looks
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: like I'm just jumping on some shit just to jump
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: on it. I feel like it needs to be it
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: has to be organic and write for those kinds of
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: those records, So we're still figuring it out.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like would make a lot of sense.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: But the interesting thing about Eve, like Eve, you're such
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: a one on one even now, I can't think of
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: any body who I would compare it because she.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Did sexy rap, but then she did the positive raps.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: She did the women's empowerment rap, but then she also
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: did that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Right to think about who to put on stuff.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: To be honest, the meaning of like come out of
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: Philly is just a little bit different too. And this
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: girl's coming out of Philly like they got rocky amazing,
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Like there's girls that are trying to come out of Philly,
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: but they haven't hit like a sexy red or like yet.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: So I don't know if if the.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, but I'm yeah, I don't know. I had
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: to figure it out. I mean, the dope to do
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: a whole Philly like female.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Something to what the thought process was back then, because
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: when you came out, like I'm just thinking about it,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: you did you wasn't in a single a box, right,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: You did the sexy rap at times, but then you
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: did the women empowerment rap, but then you.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Remember even doing sexy rap, she just was a flying chick.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: No, but I think yeah, the demeanor was sexy though, Yeah,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: it was very much like yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: I don't think yeah. Lyrically, I don't think I really
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: went there. But when it came to maybe like yeah style, it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Was Yeah, it wasn't force.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Was that was that?
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Was that forced when you thought about it? Or was
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: that something that you was conscious of doing? Or is
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: that was just eve?
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: It was just me? It was just honestly, it was
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: just me. It was what I wanted to show. My
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: easiest album, I think was the first album because I
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: feel like I was writing the album my whole life.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: It was the other albums that I literally had to
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: think about, the second album, the third album. But that
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: being said, I kind of just did what I felt.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: I kind of just did what I felt like I
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: wanted to do. Yeah, it wasn't no herem or reason
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: when you.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Did love his blind Was the label behind it or
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: they was like this is totally from what's out now?
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: I was shocked that they were behind it. I was
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: actually really shocked, especially that early in my career with
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: rough Riders, but they were. They were completely behind it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: I think once I added the third verse where I
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: also popped them like it also, Yeah, it was like
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: I think that was fine, but yeah, they were totally
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: behind it.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well we I know you said earlier that you
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: guys have been talking about a reunion before DMX pass.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Would you or would y'all consider doing something like that
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: now without him being here? You feel like it couldn't
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: be done without him.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I would leave that up to D
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: and Y to figure out. I think that would be
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: up to them, and if they want to bring us together,
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: I'll always be there, of course, but I think it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: more up to them to figure it out.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: You know, in the Hollywood chapter, you talk about going
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: to the Church of Scientology.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Could you explain to the people what the hell made
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: you do that?
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: Because I got invited by somebody who I.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Was like, yes that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: I was like, well, if you're going, I just need
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: to see Plus I'm very much Bart Simpson like, I'm
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: very much. I will touch the fire just to make
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: sure it's fire. And when the hell else am I
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: going to get into the celebrity Scientology censor. I was
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: scared of ship. The whole time I was in there.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: I did not eat the food. That was like they're
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: gonna yes and bring it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: I don't want to say because I don't even know
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: if it's she's I don't want to out nobody because
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: I don't even know she's still doing it. So only
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: for those reasons. Child, that ship was crazy and I
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: was hungover. That was the other thing.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I remember that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: That's why I was so stressed. But it was very weird.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: You definitely got to read that chapter.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: So you walked in and is there like access codes
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: or like the people with you? There's like people everywhere
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: in every like there are people everywhere watching everything, and there.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Are special people to walk you today. It was they
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: all wear the same thing like it was crazy.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Was it one of those things where you felt like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: since I'm in the industry now, I guess I should
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: be doing this because this is what people in the
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: industry do.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: I was more curious because of this person. We had
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: kind of had a light like friendship. It wasn't like
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: a but because we were getting to know each other.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: So I was curious in that way of like, oh interesting,
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: why what made her do that? Let me go see Meanwhile,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: obviously I'm still on this. What am I doing? What's
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: going on, But I quickly was like, this is not No.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: You told your family about that?
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: What they say? No, like my mom.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: Yet all the rules of mom and grandma wouldn't.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Have been with the psychic town.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: I know, No, they wouldn't have been with it, like
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: my grandmother for sure. My mom now she's like whatever,
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: she's like, you are who you are now like Crystal's
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: stage or she knows who I am.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: But back then, no, New Newton, what your mom still
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in the hall?
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: No, No, my mom's not. My grandmother is Grandma? My
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: grandmother is still waiting for thousand.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Yes she sliff you watched out and the waits every
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: now and then.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: No, she's actually good. She leaves she honestly, she leaves
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: us alone. But that's her thing.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: It's all good.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I wanted to ask you to even
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Destruction chapter you talk about your time with Aftermath, and
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: you know when you got dropt from the.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Label, Dray didn't even bother to call you.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: How was it when things came full circle? You done
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: blew up and y'all ended up doing let me blow
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: your mind? Did y'all even did you bring that up
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: to him? Like you know, you ain't even call me when.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: You No, I didn't even need to. I remember before
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: we even did Blow Your Mind, we did the Source
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: Awards and I was like, yeah, I'm on the same
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: stage as you with the Rough Riders, like so it
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: went from that to Jimmy being like, y'all need to
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: get back in the studio do a song. And it
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: was kind of just me being so extra extra Philly,
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: like yeah, okay, well let me hear it, beat let
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: me hear it, like so extra like. So we never
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: ever discussed it, but we also knew Listen dra is
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: one of the greatest, like right, so I knew he
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: was going to get it out of me. I just
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: I made it hard. I made it hard.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they album the book.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Who's That Girl?
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Thank you for having me?
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Final question about Who's that Girl? Yes, who were you
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: at the start of this book? And who would you
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: say you are?
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: That's a good question. At the start. I definitely tried
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: to write it like an interview, and Kathy actually checked
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: me on that because she was like, look, I don't
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: want to take you back to trauma, but you need
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: to emote for people to understand where you're coming from.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: So I think I was slightly guarded. And then as
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: I went through it and I'm getting I dont know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: I'm getting emotional. First time asked me this question. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: just feel like all that ship that I had on,
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: like one of my healers used to call it an
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: invisible backpack of ship of other people, ship of your
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: ship like that ships off and listen, my life's been great.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: This is This is not a book about being like
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: fun that. This is not a book. This is a
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: book about me realizing how as much as I say
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: I was in this personal tourm turmoil term turmoil turmoil,
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: how determined I was to believe in myself to get
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: to a certain place, and that at the end of
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: the book, I was like, damn, I'm proud of myself.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: So yeah, memoir out right now for joining us.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: I did not expect tears to like at all, but
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: thank you for having me. I ain't seen now, y'all
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: just be hinder.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: You can let it flow. We need it for the content.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Hanging up the tissues right, let me throw it all right,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: it's the breakfast Club is Eve.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club