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Bama Bob recaps College Football, Scott Dochterman talks Hawkeyes & Mr. Monday Night presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Our number 2, Miller and Condon welcome back Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Still to come, Scott Dockerman
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toward the bottom of the hour. Doc of course writes for The
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Athletic. He will join us.
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He put his first College Football Playoff rankings out at
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The Athletic first of the year. We'll recap that with Doc,
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etcetera. Mr. Monday Night will pay in a
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pay up a visit. He comes up about 10 minutes
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before 2:00. Jags getting 3 1/2 at home from
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the Chiefs. Bama Bob joins us to recap the
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weekend in college football and what a fun weekend it was.
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Just like we thought Bama, we knew it going in.
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Not maybe not the best on paper, but boy, it's going to live up
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to what it always does. Did we nailed it?
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Well, I think I think we have to start acknowledging that, you
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know, occasionally Trent is right.
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You know, we talked about these kind of men we can turn into, I
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mean, consequential is all you can say because I think, you
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know, Penn State and Texas lose huge And you know, I, you know,
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as we get further along, I want I want to turn, I want to flip
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it. I want to be host and I want, I
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want to ask you guys a question as we get going here.
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But but we can save that for later.
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All right, another big consequential for sure.
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Let's start in the Big 10, Trent, we talked about it
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earlier, just the, the, the unlikelihood of, of Pucci LA
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Mall schools beating Penn State, who was, as you said, mean if if
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it wasn't, you know, Texas or Ohio State, it was Penn State
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was going to be the national champion.
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They're not going to make the playoff the way they're trending
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right now. What a great story.
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Jerry Neuheisel, your thoughts on the Big 10?
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Yeah, we talked a lot about that game at the top and I'll leave a
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little something there on the bone for Bama on that front.
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What other take away? The Nebraska, Michigan State
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game was just one of the more odd games you're going to see.
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I'm sure you watched a lot of that one and it felt like
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everything I got back over there, it was just something
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weird happened. Charles, was he benched or did
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he get? He got.
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He got hurt because I saw the backup was in there.
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What's going on because he was playing so poorly?
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Now, I didn't see leading up because I was watching Alabama
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at the time and we must have flipped at the exact same time
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because we saw the backup on the field and then they cut the
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Charles on the bench. That Nebraska defense is not
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very good. They're OK in the back end.
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The the the. They're not basically and I, I
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don't know how they're this. Might have been one of their
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best games. Trend.
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That's the offensive line that I bet just Sips got problems with
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Thursday. Well, I mean the best offensive
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line of the Big 10 according to Stephen M Simple.
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Before the year they were brutal.
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Couldn't block you me. Nebraska's a bowl team.
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But that's it. That's it, That's it.
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There, there's nothing more to that team.
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Yes, there are seven win team of seven and five, maybe an 8 and
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four got up to. I mean, that punt block was a
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thing of beauty. Goes for a touchdown and then
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Michigan State comes running back and takes the lead.
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But Nebraska hangs on. All right, Bama, your thoughts
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on the Big 10? Well, obviously it starts in out
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in Lai mean, I don't think anybody saw that coming.
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It's the it's the worst loss of Franklin's career in a in a
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career that's had a lot of them. But you know, I saw somebody, I
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don't know, one of the pundits or something said, well, you
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know, the I guess the upside is he, you know, didn't hurt his
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record against top 10 opponents. You know, hopefully.
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I mean, it was just brutal. And, you know, he had to throw
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amongst all the other things, you know, he's trying to give,
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you know, UCLA credit and, you know, we weren't prepared.
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That's coaching. He did throw the travel thing.
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Like the next time I hear that from a Big 10 coach, I'm going
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to scream, hey, you're going east to West.
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OK. So it's not like you're kicking
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off at 9:00 in the morning your time B.
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Again, it's your stupid conference.
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So just deal with it. And if you can't, if these
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coaches can't figure out how to deal with it, I thought, and I
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know you watched your Broncos. Yes, I did.
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Yesterday and Sean Payton talked about, you know, how teams that
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go, you know, from the West Coast, they make an East Coast
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stop and then they go to London overseas and how they were like,
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I don't know, one in 15 in those games before they go to London.
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And he went through all this stuff and try to get his team
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prepared. Big team coaches are going to
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have to this is this is reality guys.
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You're going to make at least one trip a year, sometimes twice
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out to the West Coast and it's a 3 hour time change.
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Deal with it, figure it out, go out a day early, whatever you
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got to do. I don't know what it is, but you
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better figure it out because you keep, you know, in the same way,
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you know, coming the other way, you know, we heard Lincoln Riley
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going to Illinois. It's just the reality of your
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stupid conference. Yep, you better get rid, you
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better, you better learn how to deal with it.
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But just an absolutely horrible loss.
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You know, another team that went the other way was Washington.
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I thought that was a good win by them.
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I mean, they were down. It took a while to get going,
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but you know, they they they, I don't know if they salvage their
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season. I don't know what they're really
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going to get out of their season.
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But you know, good win for them. I was surprised at just
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absolutely no resistance from Minnesota and Columbus.
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I thought that game might be not closer, but oh, I guess closer
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than 42 to 3. But just kind of a domination,
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you know, you guys hit on Michigan State, Nebraska.
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That was, you know, I agree with you.
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Nebraska might win eight games. I really thought they had a
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chance to get into the playoff with that schedule.
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Illinois, you know, kind of, you know, did what they Purdue, he
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was good. And now, boy, they got a big one
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this week. You know, with the, with the
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Buckeyes coming into champagne, let's see if they can sell out
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that stadium. But yeah, Penn State, Penn
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State's it, I mean, that's the story.
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That's the story nationally. There's a lot of big stories,
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but Penn State by far, Texas and Penn State preseason #1 #2
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unranked in Week 6. Absolutely, Trenton.
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On to the Big 12 we go. BYU started it on Friday night.
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Did West Virginia get a late touchdown to cover?
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They did. That covered the number.
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Good God, isn't gambling fun? Made it and left and they punch
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it in and get the cover in that one.
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So we talked quite a bit earlier about Texas Tech.
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That win against Houston I thought was the most eye opening
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performance of the week for me just because I've said I wanted
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to see more. I want to see a complete effort
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out of Texas Tech. And maybe the story that goes
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along with it is what that defense is doing.
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I mean, nobody has been able to move the ball.
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Rodriguez is unbelievable. They brought in some dudes.
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There was so much talk about, you know what they did, but
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maybe that was the miss part of that.
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What this defense is doing right now.
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This is a contender. And if you have a defense, this
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isn't just Oh yeah, they can get to the playoff, maybe even win a
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game in the quarterfinal. This team, with this defense,
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maybe we we do have to adjust our expectations a little bit
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for the Red Raiders. Yeah, I'm with you, Avery
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Johnson. I mean, it had a nice game and
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he throws that just unforgivable pick.
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I thought K State had a chance to pick off Baylor.
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At least they covered. Colorado was in our TC rather
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was in a fight with Colorado. Alabama, the Big 10, Big, Big
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12. Pick a pardon.
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Yeah, Iowa State, I'm sure you guys have hit that one hard.
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That was that was a let down. I think Cincinnati's a good
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team, but and point good Lord, to beck this plastic on that one
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hit. I mean, I don't know how the kid
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got back. I don't know how he was allowed
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back in the game. I'm sure you guys have talked
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about his main story up there. I just saw the the highlight of
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that and I'm, I don't think I've seen a quarterback hit that.
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Hard. He gets his face mask tugged.
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He turns around to look up field and right in the chops.
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Bam. I mean, just awful.
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I'm glad he's OK. I hope he's OK.
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Came back in and played. I agree with you.
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I think Texas Tech's most underrated team in the country
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right now. I've saw some bowl projections,
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somebody, you know, put them out already that they have Texas
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Tech and Alabama in the 8-9 game.
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I won't know part of that. I'm going to tell you that
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because that that looks like a team.
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And you mentioned the defense. I mean, this isn't the old Air
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Raid, you know, where they're in a score 75.75, right?
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You know, 75 to 55 or whatever it is.
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They seem like they have they seem like they have some guys on
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defense. Houston again, I think they've
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got problems with I think maybe they started to show out in
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Corvallis and then have to come back and play a really good
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rested opponent. I just, you know, I think I
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talked about Friday that I would I would lay the points and and
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that certainly happened. I think, listen, I think the
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game of the year right right now, the game of the year in the
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Big 12 is, is 2 weeks from now when, when Texas Tech goes out
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to, to Tempe. I mean, that is, I think, I
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think Texas Tech is going to be really hard to keep out of that
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Big 12 championship game no matter what happens.
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Because you look at the rest of it, they've got Kansas at home.
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They got Oklahoma State at home. That's a terrible team.
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Kansas State is really disappointing.
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They do have BYU, but they get them at home.
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They get UCF at home and they go to West Virginia.
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I don't see a loss on that schedule outside of maybe the
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trip to Tempe. And if they lose that one, I
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don't think it's going to matter.
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They're going to be in the Big 12 championship game anyway.
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That is, this is looking more and more like a legit playoff
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contender, not only to get there, but to really do some
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damage and one of those teams that not many people out of the
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Big 10 or the SEC are going to want to see.
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So let me ask it this way to both of you guys.
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Could Texas Tech as the representative for the Big 12
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grab the four seed at the expense of an SEC?
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I mean, if we got Ohio State in, we've got Miami in, I think
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Oregon is in. Who's going to get the 4th by?
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Oh, I, I can't play it. There's way too much.
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Football, but as of right now, can you?
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Oh yeah, yeah, I think you can definitely make that.
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Argument. Cause who's unbeaten in the SEC?
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The Zoo. Ole Miss.
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Now if it came down to say 13 and O. 13 and O Texas.
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Tech and 12 and what Alabama? Well, it's Alabama.
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Come on, should. It be oh, absolutely.
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Come on, Going through the Big 12 in comparison to the SEC,
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even if the SEC might be down a little bit.
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Come on. What's Al?
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Who would Alabama have knocked off to get there?
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Obviously Mizzou This week, Oklahoma's got a Tennessee,
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Georgia, Tennessee. Oklahoma's good as 12 and.
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One LSU at Auburn 12 and then the SEC Championship game. 12
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and 1 Alabama. In that scenario, it's Alabama.
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You're right. Now we could get into some.
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Goofier things like Mizzou, who's played nobody and there's
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12 and. They they don't even bear.
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I think they get beat this week. I hope Ty Simpson hangs one on
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them. Anyways, we'll get to that.
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Anything else in the in the big Alabama?
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I think to answer your question, I think I think Texas Tech is
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going to have a hard time. I think they could get in over a
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loser of the of the SEC or the Big 10 championship in the top
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four seat. But because you mentioned.
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Oregon, Ohio State would play each other.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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So one of those, one of those are going to lose.
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And I think an undefeated tech team gets in over that.
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They're not going to have any. They're not going to have any
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great marquee wins. You know, like the win at Utah,
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the win at Arizona State are probably going to wind up being
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their two best. And there's going to be some
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debate whether they should get one of those buys or not.
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But again, I don't think they really care.
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I don't, I just don't get the impression that they care a lot.
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I think they'll go play anybody anywhere.
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And I'm, I'm telling you right now, there's a lot of teams in
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the SEC that do not want to see them in one of those, you know,
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5 through 12 games, even if, even if they're hosting, you
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know, that's a team that right now I don't think anybody wants
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to see. I saw another projection for
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Alabama and Georgia Tech. Sign me up for that one please.
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Trent to the SEC. Alabama, That was a big boy
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victory, piling up nearly 500 yards against Vanderbilt.
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Defenses improved for Vandy. Pavia left a couple of plays
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there, but I think you can't just look at that.
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Yeah, the fumble really hurt. They could have jumped out to
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that big lead early still after that, that was just domination
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out of Simpson against a good Vanderbilt team, which is crazy
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to say. That's all right.
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Is that the team that lost to Georgia State a year ago?
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This Vanderbilt team is much improved from what they were.
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I don't even think the final score was indicative of how much
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Alabama dominated. This football, yeah, I'm with
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you. Obviously the Florida game.
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I'm sure Bam will touch on that one.
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Marcel Reed A&M is looks like he's a player.
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So so let's go there, Bama, because I think you touched it
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on Friday, just kind of giving us a heads up, just a house.
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How this Vanderbilt team, it was just kind of sneaks in and
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sneaks out of a Tuscaloosa previous years.
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Nobody even knows they were there other than the scores 1
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sided that this was that this felt like a big game.
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And of all schools on the other side of the field, it was Vandy.
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And there's a hell of a game. And Ty Simpson is an absolute
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legitimate Heisman contender. Yeah, he is.
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He's played great. I'm hoping he can sustain this
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level because it was they got a lot of big fish to fry,
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including this week at the zoo. And they come home and play
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Tennessee. They've still got LSU, they got
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Oklahoma. So there's a lot left for him, a
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lot of meat left on that bone. But this was a big game because
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again, Vandy, you know, the running back hits at 65 yards.
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It's, you know, 7 nothing. And he'll my Oh my God, here we
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go again. They did.
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I don't want to say they shut Pavia up because he played a
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decent game, but I talked about Friday, you got to make him beat
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you from the pocket and he couldn't do it.
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He had an interception. He had one.
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He had two turnovers in the red zone.
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OK, now he doesn't do that. We may be talking about an
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entirely different game. Alabama left some points on the
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field. Simpson threw his first
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interception, which I really can't put on him because for
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some reason on 4th down and one when you have Kaden Proctor that
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you can hand the ball to or uses a fullback, we're going to
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decide to throw a pass, you know, and being a creative and
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it's one of those resume builders that these stupid
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coaches try to do sometimes and that so that was a pick.
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He also had to he took a sack 1st and goal with the 10.
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He took like a 12 yard sack cost him points potentially.
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But that said, he's got some real weapons out there.
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And I don't think that is really, I don't think that's
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being talked about enough. We all know about Ryan Williams,
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but Jeremy Bernard is, is his best receiver.
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He's there so far this year. I know, you know, Williams had
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more yards this week. Isaiah Hortons kind of emerging
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as a, as a true #3 and Jim Miller, you know, finally on the
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ground, you know, 136 yards that he, you know, he had that late
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talk about your, your bad beats. He had the I think he scored
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with like 17 seconds left to make the margin 16, which is a
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cover. Yeah, because of the 12 1/2.
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But listen, it was all around a really good game.
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I don't, I won't say it, salvage their season, but it it
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certainly extended their season in terms of, you know, what they
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can do. They've got a really tough
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four-game gauntlet. They've already beat Georgia.
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They just beat Alabama. I'm sorry, Vanderbilt, we talked
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about they go to Mizzou this week, who's coming off a by and
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then they have Tennessee. So there's a they're halfway
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through it, if you will. But the defense, I think
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shutting them out in the second-half was big, able to run
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the ball was big. We'll see if they can sustain
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it. Missouri is another physical
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team coming in off of a bye week.
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That's an 11. They play nobody though, have
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they I. Mean they haven't Kansas, maybe
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South Carolina. They haven't left Columbia.
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Candace, I told you this season, the weirdest schedule I've ever
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seen, right? They've had five home games a
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bye week and they got another home game.
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I've just I've never seen a team not leave your and there's no
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neutral site. This is just all in Columbia.
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They don't leave even till mid-october when they go to
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Auburn. But again, big win for de Boer.
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I think there were so many doubters, myself included after
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that Florida State game. Happy for Billy Napier.
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I mean, that was that was. Happy for Lagway.
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Happy. For Lagway, he the crowd was
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into it. And I was glad to see that
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because what this tells you is everything gone wrong.
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They haven't quit, OK? And that that to me.
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Back-to-back years. That their schedule does.
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I can't, I keep harping on it. I can't adequately convey how
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tough their schedule has been, not only in the conference, but
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when you play South Florida, Miami and Florida State out of
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conference. That is ridiculous how good
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they've been. And I know they're Florida and
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they should, you know, win 8910 games, whatever it is, but they
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they they still fight for this guy.
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He's made his own bonehead decisions.
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You know, clock management, it comes into question a lot.
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He's stuck with Lagway. He rewarded him this week.
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He outplayed Arch Manning and and I think we're starting to
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see Manning had some good moments, but I think we're
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starting to see that maybe we just kind of and myself
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included, maybe over hyped him a little bit because of the last
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thing. This is not Peyton or Eli here.
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He's still got a lot of learning to do so happy for that Ami
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think really good win against Mississippi State kind of the
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way late you know it was it was 7 to 3 at half time they kind of
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ran away from him late but. Yeah, I went over that game on
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the SEC Network when it was 73, thinking that's be a good game.
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It wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't.
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No, it was boring. I mean, a lot of it was, but
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yeah, I mean, I don't know where we're going to go in the SEC.
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And, you know, I know we got the ACC to cover, too.
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But I guess my thing is, is like, you've got Notre Dame,
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Penn State, Texas and FSU all with two losses, right?
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Do any of them make the playoff? Probably.
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Notre Dame. You think so?
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I mean, yeah, half. I mean, Penn State could.
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Penn State's got Indiana, Ohio State, if they somehow magically
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beat them, they're going to be in it.
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You know, Texas has only got one loss in the SCC.
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I think Florida State's in trouble because I don't think
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they're making the ACC championship game.
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They've got 16 teams ahead of them, so I don't know how
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they're going to make it in there.
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And Notre Dame I don't think deserve, I mean, but crazy you
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know, 4 blue bloods could all be done after this week.
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Wild. But let's take a quick look at
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the ACC trend. I I can't believe I'm wrong.
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I was on Belichick. I thought this guy's gonna.
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He's Bell Freaking Belichick. Full circle.
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Trent was right on this one too. We.
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Should have saved that one for next week.
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When you when you when you needed one.
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But you're right. Yeah, you were.
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I look at Miami to dominate in that fact now.
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Did it get hairy at the end? A little.
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Bit it did, yeah. And that's that's where I go
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with Mario, with Cristobal, can they win a national championship
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with him on the sideline? They look really good.
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They're really talented, yeah, but to win likely 3 consecutive
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games against good opponents with him on the sideline, that
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that's my hang up. Fair or unfair, that's where I
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am with Penn. State get to the championship.
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God no. Somebody's got to win.
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It's give me a dark no, those guys.
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Are no, I think they're done. I'm just trying to find a coach
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that's overrated and May. Hand And that's my problem with
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Miami. It's not the talent.
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Carson Beck. Speaking of wrong, I was dead
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wrong. He's been playing at a high
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level, but it's just the guy at the sideline that leaves me
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concerned. So I go to bed on Friday night.
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It was a Friday night. Whatever.
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No, it's Saturday night. The Cal Duke game.
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Oh, yeah, it's 21. Seven Cal's marching in.
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They're going in again. Oh, this thing's over because I
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used him in our little pic contest.
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I wake up my log 45 to 21. My God.
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So what happened? Somebody had to be watching
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that. Game when he got hot.
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Did he He can play a little Bama.
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Your thoughts on the ACC? Yeah, I agree with you on
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Belichick. I I was never on board with
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that. I just think that the last I
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think he took the job. I don't I don't know why he took
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the job and then all the Jordan Hudson crap floating around
19:26
there. It's just weird.
19:27
It just seems like a guy with a not even a mid life, like a late
19:30
life crisis. Whatever is going on with him,
19:33
the Patriots yesterday just or last night proved that they're
19:36
much better without him. You know, he he definitely lost
19:40
his fastball. I listen, I think Miami, I do
19:42
think they're legit and I think it's because of Beck.
19:45
I understand the hesitation about Cristobal and I get it.
19:49
Was it the Georgia Tech game a couple years ago where he just
19:51
absolutely blew that game? I can't remember what the
19:53
situation was clock management somehow.
19:56
But you know, again, you know, they get outscored 19 to nothing
19:59
in the fourth quarter. You get Florida State credit for
20:02
coming back. I think Miami's defense is
20:04
legit. I mean, they, they've got guys,
20:07
you know, in that Warren Sapp, Benny Blade, Sean Taylor, I
20:11
mean, they've just, they've got some defenders.
20:13
On that team. And I think they're just, I
20:16
think they're going to be a pain the rest of the year.
20:19
And that's another team. I think they're the.
20:20
I think they're far and away the best team in the ACC.
20:23
Can they, you know, as Trent always says, that crazy
20:26
conference. Can they can they stub their
20:28
toe? They can.
20:29
They've got Louisville and Stanford.
20:31
You wouldn't think either one of those games they do have to go
20:33
to they got to go to SMU. Yeah, maybe, I don't know,
20:38
Syracuse, NC State, at Virginia Tech, at PIT.
20:42
I don't see a loss on there. I mean, maybe the SMU if you
20:44
want to get to it, but there's no Clemson.
20:47
They just beat Florida State. So I listen, I think they're I
20:50
think they're back. It would be an upset to me.
20:52
It'll be it'll be you'll be an upset if they don't go
20:55
undefeated and make it to the ACC championship game.
20:58
They could be ranked number one by that point, depending on what
21:00
happens with Ohio State. But I think they're legit.
21:03
I think Florida State, I mean, are they done probably because I
21:08
don't think they're going to get in at large.
21:10
I don't think they got enough left.
21:11
The Alabama winds going to look good.
21:13
But it's also early. So I don't know.
21:17
I don't know where they go, but got to be disappointing for them
21:20
to not play well. Cassianos, you know, turned it
21:22
over twice. We talked about couldn't do
21:24
that, that that played clean. I still think he in a big spot.
21:28
I know you don't trust Crystal Ball.
21:29
I don't trust him necessarily to run through three nationally
21:33
ranked opponents. But right now they they are back
21:36
as of right now. And I would be it will be a
21:38
major upset if they don't finish 12 enough.
21:40
Ben, we'll talk to you on Friday, brother.
21:41
Thank you. Yep, take care always.
21:44
Thanks. Good to talk to you, Ben, Bob,
21:45
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22:23
just past 130 on a Monday Mr. Monday night still to come.
22:28
We'll get to that right now. Scott Dockerman joins us He
22:32
writes for the athletic his bowl his playoff projections first
22:36
ones of the year been post we'll get into that with doc big 10
22:38
questions as well. But Doc right off the shoot I
22:41
promised one of your viewers slash listeners out in eastern
22:46
Iowa. You do Monday night on on Iowa
22:48
live on KCRG and was wondering if going to be on tonight, He
22:52
says it's yours. Favorite part of that show?
22:54
Will you be on TV tonight, Doc? Yes, I will.
22:58
I didn't go 2 weeks ago when I was still in Indiana and so I I
23:01
did hear from it from people. But yes, I'm planning to be on
23:04
the show tonight. Yeah, you let him down because
23:06
that's exactly what he said. So he'll be glad to know you'll
23:09
be tuning in by literally. That's pretty cool place that
23:11
you do it from. I saw the rooftop shot from last
23:14
week, so pretty cool. But anyways, let's get into your
23:17
your column from yesterday at the Athletic when you put out
23:20
your first playoff projections. I'm sure it was well received,
23:24
as those things always are. It's unbelievable to me, Doc,
23:27
what you put up with. But it comes with the territory,
23:30
I guess. What was the most difficult
23:32
thing, Doc, when you looked at the the bracket and how it came
23:35
together, what team or what school maybe did you go back and
23:39
forth with slotting them one place and then having it to
23:42
change or did it just all fall into place this week?
23:46
It wasn't that difficult this week.
23:48
I think the first week was a little more difficult because
23:51
you had teams like Penn State and Texas who were still kind of
23:54
hovering there. And then after this week they're
23:57
they're not going to be making any more appearances for a
23:59
while. It's the very least.
24:01
I think the SEC log jam is just makes it very, very difficult
24:05
right now because you've got a collection of teams that are
24:08
undefeated and you're not sure if they're the best ones.
24:11
And then you've got a bunch of one loss teams that you think
24:13
are pretty good, but you know, I've already got a defeat and,
24:16
and so there's like 8 teams that you can throw in there from the
24:19
SEC and then until it goes to 16 teams, you really can't do that.
24:23
So I, you know, I'm trying to figure out which ones are most
24:27
valuable. I left out in the zoo and in
24:29
Tennessee. Those were challenges.
24:31
And then probably the one though that I really wanted to kind of
24:34
get in there and I didn't quite get, but I will at another time
24:37
probably. Is Georgia Tech undefeated?
24:40
They played pretty well. I think they've got a chance to,
24:43
to get in there. They've got a decent schedule
24:45
too. But but you know, and then
24:48
there's a couple I think BYU is worthy of mention.
24:51
And but you know, in the Big 10 right now, it's, it's really for
24:54
me, it's they're, they're 3 clear teams and I don't think
24:57
anybody else gets into the top 12.
24:58
So we could see how the season progresses.
25:01
But it's, you know, there's a clear line there for me.
25:05
You have 6 SEC teams currently in the bracket.
25:08
When we get to the end of the season, fast forwarding a little
25:10
bit, is there a realistic path for that actually to happen?
25:13
Or were there ultimately be too much carnage that, you know,
25:16
we're kind of picking over a bunch of nine and three type of
25:19
teams to get in there? Is there a realistic path though
25:21
that actually that could play out?
25:24
Yeah, I think there is actually. I I think that first of all,
25:27
having that, that's their last year as an 8 conference, a game
25:33
conference that makes it really challenging because there's not
25:36
a lot of breakup. There's not that game, you know,
25:39
one extra game causes half the teams to win and half the teams
25:42
to lose, which really is helpful.
25:43
But, but I think, you know, Alabama and Georgia have the
25:46
most difficult schedules, but then I wonder and, and Oklahoma,
25:49
but, but then how do the other ones navigate it?
25:52
And all of a sudden you got a log jam of, you know, 5 or so
25:55
teams with ten wins. That's going to be tough to kind
25:59
of break apart. And how do you differentiate?
26:01
And well, this team beat this team and then that team beat
26:03
this team and it's just like this, you know, all all over the
26:06
place. So I think it's it's really
26:09
likely. And especially when you look at
26:10
the Big 10 right now until kind of what I call like the mushy
26:14
middle, somebody steps up and win some big games and puts
26:17
themselves in position. I think there's a clear line
26:20
Penn State fell. I mean, it is bad of a loss as
26:23
I've ever seen. And they're not getting in
26:25
unless they sweep that mean that that's what their non conference
26:28
schedule did to them and removed any kind of benefit of doubt.
26:31
And so, you know, Penn State goes 10 and two, then they don't
26:34
get their way back in there. But until then, you know,
26:37
Illinois has a big blot, you know, 63 to 10.
26:41
Iowa's got a really tough schedule and and it's hard to
26:44
say. I mean, if they went out there
26:45
definitely. And but you know, Michigan, if
26:47
they get past this game and Washington and they've got a
26:50
pass there, but but that's, you know, and then some of the
26:54
others, it's hard to say. Nebraska's in decent shape, but
26:58
but they've shown some fatal flaws.
27:00
There's just so much there in the Big 10.
27:02
It's hard to really keep everybody and then and then
27:05
probably with the Big 12, I think at at this point it's you
27:09
know, it's a 11 team league. It's just going to be that way.
27:11
And unless your mark decides that they want to take the
27:15
guarantees and get 2 and every year because it's just, it's
27:18
going to be hard for the second team to really break past either
27:22
the Big 10 or SEC. Which is head scratching to me.
27:24
As many good moves as he's made, that seems to be I just don't
27:27
understand it when we get to that point.
27:29
There is an independent team doc that has not.
27:31
It does not make your top 12. And if they're 10 and two with
27:35
losses to Miami and A&M and, and I think both they're both in
27:39
this bracket that you posted, what about Notre Dame chances if
27:43
they go the rest of the way now won't be as many data points,
27:46
obviously, but losses to Miami and Texas A&M, should they both
27:50
qualify, does that elevate Notre Dame into the top 12?
27:54
It, it can I, I think Notre Dame is still, you know, it has to
27:57
get to the end, it has to get the tenant too.
28:00
It's not quite as dire as Penn State because Penn State had the
28:04
UCLA loss looks an awful lot like Northern Illinois did for
28:07
them last year. But but I, I think that Notre
28:10
Dame, it doesn't have a lot of great opponents.
28:14
It doesn't have anybody else. I think that's in the top 25 on
28:17
their schedule. You know, you've got USC was
28:20
probably the most challenging opponent, I would say left, you
28:23
know, Pitt and is OK and and Syracuse, but but there's really
28:27
nobody on there that makes you just jump out and and which
28:31
means that they're just going to have to win and win decisively
28:33
and impressively because with that type of a schedule, how do
28:37
you line them up against, you know, take your pick any any
28:43
tenant to SEC team. What if Illinois gets attended
28:45
to? I mean, how do you really judge
28:48
those? I, I, I mean, I think that every
28:50
team in a league has an advantage over them, as they
28:53
should. So Notre Dame, between this and
28:56
and the SD rivalry thing, it's going to have to start
29:00
evaluating itself that it just doesn't have the the bandwidth
29:03
to be able to absorb a lot of this stuff.
29:05
Doc over the weekend, one of the biggest stories was UCLA of what
29:08
they did with little Skippy, Neuheisel, a Jerry playing
29:12
calls, getting carried off the field.
29:14
Just an incredible 1. And did I hear it all right?
29:17
I was listening to Ralph Russo along with the guys over at The
29:19
Athletic in their podcast. Were you the one that let Rick
29:22
Neuheisel play know that Jerry was going to be the offensive
29:25
coordinator for this week? It was Bruce.
29:27
Oh, it was Bruce. OK.
29:29
Yeah, yeah, He texted Rick. I I talked to Rick on Saturday
29:33
night for a little while about this and he said he goes, this
29:36
is how good you guys are. I I, I'm sitting there on
29:39
Tuesday and I get a text from Bruce Feldman and he says, hey,
29:42
does, is Jerry the offensive coordinator this week?
29:45
And he's like, I don't know. And he calls him, he's like,
29:47
yeah, I just found out three minutes ago.
29:51
So it's kind of funny. But yeah, what a what an
29:54
incredible. Team.
29:56
And I, I mean, I just can't think of very many upsets like
29:59
this. I mean, UCLA firing its coach,
30:01
looking so badly against New Mexico.
30:05
I mean, and then to run all over Penn State, I mean, you know,
30:09
gosh, I think last year we kind of thought that was a bad loss
30:12
for Iowa out there. But in retrospect, that that
30:16
UCLA team looks way better than this one does.
30:18
But it really, I mean, more than anything, it was a fun,
30:21
wonderful moment for, for UCLA, but it's devastating for for
30:25
Penn State. They are in, I mean, you want to
30:28
talk about agony meter, They're number 12 and 3 after this.
30:32
I mean, they just, they just they're going to have to sweep
30:34
out And and they're three, you know, they go three games in a
30:37
row at Iowa, which is a night game at Ohio State, which is a
30:40
big noon game, and then Indiana home consecutively.
30:46
And then, you know, against other teams, Michigan State and
30:48
Nebraska, which aren't exactly pushovers, I mean, Penn State
30:52
could be in that seven and five range if if they don't play the
30:55
cards right. And for a team that expected to
30:58
compete for the national championship, that would be as
31:01
big of a let down as we've ever seen.
31:03
Yeah, they're going to play Texas in that game of memory
31:05
serves and and that doesn't sound like that's going to
31:08
happen as and by the way, Trent is is Texas favored over
31:12
Oklahoma this week in. In which no material.
31:15
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, I saw Kenny White's
31:17
numbers. He still has Texas 4th in the
31:19
country with his power rankings. Doc, let's get to the Hawks.
31:22
But it sounds like maybe some good news when it comes to
31:25
Gronowski, as I will. We'll head to Wisconsin on
31:28
Saturday night and perhaps have their starting quarterback back.
31:31
The depth charts been released. You know, Kirk as well as
31:34
anybody when it comes to those. But just your thoughts.
31:37
Maybe Gronowski. There's a chance he's going to
31:39
play Doc. Yeah, that's what I've been
31:42
hearing that really since Saturday ish, that they didn't
31:45
think he had an ACL tear. So you know, when when you're
31:48
dealing with something on the lines of a sprained knee, it's
31:52
you know, sometimes it's a two week injury, sometimes it's a
31:55
four week injury. It just kind of depends on how
31:57
it responds and how it heals. And and that's kind of what I've
32:01
heard all along. So I was a little surprised that
32:03
it was like, oh, this is a big deal, But I mean, it, it's a big
32:06
deal for Iowa, especially against Wisconsin, because the
32:10
way he, he's run the ball has been so effective this year.
32:13
And, and if he can play, then it, it really does change kind
32:18
of the, the, the demographics of the game in some ways.
32:22
I mean, cause when, when you look at the other side with
32:24
Wisconsin, with what their schedule is the rest of the way,
32:28
this is a game that they're obviously pointing to.
32:30
It's a rivalry game. It's one that they feel like
32:33
they could probably win. It's one in the offseason that
32:36
the, the team all got together and we're going to have 42 push
32:39
ups to remind us of the 42 points we allowed.
32:42
It's it's night game, it's Camp Randall, it's it's homecoming.
32:46
So they're going to be pretty jacked up.
32:48
And I guess if you're Iowa, you'd like to have your, your
32:51
starting quarterback available for that environment because
32:54
now, even though this is the worst Wisconsin team I've seen
32:57
in three decades, it still has the ability to win a game once
33:01
in a while. And, and I think that's
33:02
something that, you know, Iowa's going to have to be cognizant
33:05
about because it's a tough environment.
33:06
And and if you can to defeat the environment quickly, then you'll
33:10
have no problem with the Badgers.
33:12
But if you can't then and you let them linger, that's when it
33:15
can be a dangerous situation. So Jaden Harold not listed on
33:18
the depth chart, he left a couple of different times in the
33:21
game against Indiana. You have Montgomery listed as a
33:24
starter there. If it came down to it, though,
33:27
from what we've seen out of Carson Shire, is it more likely
33:29
when they're going cash and just two linebackers out there, it'll
33:32
put Shire in the middle and then you'd have maybe Rex Roth on the
33:35
outside. How do you think that plays out
33:37
if Harold can't go? From what I I'd heard that it's
33:41
kind of a sprained knee situation with Harold as well.
33:44
And I think this is what it, I've heard different lines like
33:51
earlier last week, it was going to be more Shire playing middle,
33:54
Rex Roth playing Will and going that route.
33:57
But but then they have a lot of faith in in Montgomery.
34:00
I think they in some ways you just kind of list it the way you
34:03
want to list it and then figure it out as you go.
34:05
Because if they're not beholden to that depth chart, that's just
34:08
for us to talk about. And so I, I would be surprised
34:12
that, I mean, Shire has a lot of physical ability.
34:15
He's really good and really athletic and can make some
34:18
splash plays, but he's still kind of undisciplined.
34:22
So that's why I wonder, you know, where they're going to go
34:25
with this route because he does overrun play sometimes and, and
34:29
he needs to kind of get more settled, which is all about
34:31
experience because he does have the physical ability.
34:33
But, and Rex Roth's been really a really strong, solid player.
34:37
You know, maybe he doesn't have the that the others do, but he
34:39
is pretty athletic and have been pretty fast too.
34:42
So I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him more on the field.
34:46
So, you know, Montgomery, Ben Keckerich, even the younger guys
34:49
will see what happens. But I think that's, you know,
34:52
that they're going to they're probably play a lot of 425 the
34:55
way Wisconsin, you know, kind of mixing their their alignments
34:59
from both running the ball more effectively than last year a
35:02
little bit and then also 33 receiver sets.
35:06
Doc, what do you got coming up this week at The Athletic?
35:09
Yeah, I've got a story coming out tomorrow about the CFP when
35:12
I was on the mock draft and just kind of going through the, the
35:15
scenarios, what they're doing differently there.
35:17
And then kind of this fun story I've been working on since the
35:20
summer is it's coming out later this week.
35:23
It's life in football along the beer highway.
35:26
And I, I've stopped at 5 different places, partly in the
35:31
summer, partly in the last week or so between Iowa City and
35:35
Madison, that to talk football, talk beer, talk other things,
35:39
you know, spent a lot of time in Dubuque with my former battery
35:42
mate, which was fun. And he'll, he's quoted in my
35:46
story for the first time and but then all the other places to New
35:51
Glarus and Cedar Rapids and and some sports bars.
35:54
So yeah, it's, it was a fun story.
35:56
I just finished it yesterday. We'll see what the editing
35:59
process takes us, but but overall pretty excited about it.
36:03
Well, we'll, we'll finish where we ended, and that's in eastern
36:05
Iowa. The folks out there that read
36:08
The Gazette with a loss and you and Morehouse, they were spoiled
36:11
out there when it comes to Hawkeye coverage, no doubt about
36:13
it. And I'm not done.
36:14
This isn't a knock on anybody that's doing it now, but you
36:17
guys set the bar very high. Doc great stuff.
36:19
I will talk to you next Monday, Scott.
36:20
Thank you. All right.
36:22
Thank you very much. Yeah, good to talk to Scott
36:23
Doctorman from The Athletic. And he will be on on Iowa
36:26
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36:50
You know there aren't very many days that I want you are that I
36:53
wish you and I were doing 3 hours.
36:55
Maybe October would be the only Yeah, we didn't mention
36:57
baseball. No, not.
36:58
At all. Didn't when we would have done
37:00
it on what a weekend it was. What a weekend it was.
37:03
Cubs need to win tonight. Yeah, I think so.
37:05
Too, They're not winning four out of 5I.
37:07
Don't think so. Can the Phillies if they get
37:09
beat tonight? No, you don't think so either.
37:12
And that's one of the things that I'm going to be playing
37:14
tonight. I took Lizardo under 15 1/2
37:17
outs, OK, just I think any kind of trouble, they got to go to
37:19
that bullpen fast and. Blake's No, he's better at home.
37:23
Oh, absolutely. But boy, was he really good in
37:25
his. Last start his His strikeout
37:28
total is 7 1/2 for tonight he's he's probably gonna have a
37:31
longer leash though already upload nothing don't want to tax
37:34
that bullpen that already has issues I.
37:35
Think that's, I think that's the right handicap, but I think
37:37
you're on the right side. But Lizardo, I just I I think
37:39
they have to go quick if you run it, even if it's.
37:42
The now he's capable. Oh, absolutely.
37:43
I mean, he can strike out 12. Sure.
37:45
I mean, he's that good and that talented.
37:46
But I'm playing that one. I am going to play also the
37:49
Dodgers tonight. But for Monday Night Football,
37:51
for our purposes, yes, Mr. Monday Night has this loves
37:56
dogs. You're taking the Jags, he's
37:59
taking bacon. Part now at you.
38:01
No, no, I would never play these.
38:03
He of course was the same guy that had the Bengals last week.
38:05
What an idiot. But I they have been so good at
38:11
forcing turnovers. The worthy thing?
38:14
Really concerned. Me.
38:15
Yeah. When the What do we know anymore
38:17
this morning or do Rappaport said.
38:19
That game time. He's expected to play that the
38:23
expectation is, but it's 2 injuries have it on a flight.
38:27
I mean, just it's weird. I don't know, something stinks
38:30
over there. He is so important to what they
38:32
do. They have to have that vertical
38:34
threat of just opening everything else out.
38:37
And because of that, how limited.
38:38
Even Nick Athan said it earlier to us today.
38:41
Now he said he was winded after the game running.
38:43
What are you going to get 2530 snaps out of him?
38:45
Something like that. They're just something about
38:47
Jacksonville hanging around. This is a huge spot for them
38:49
too. Oh, sure it.
38:50
Is and for the city get Monday Night Football against a good
38:53
opponent. This will be their biggest game
38:55
of the year. This is not a prime better
38:56
season. A prime time Thursday game
38:59
against the Titans, right? They're used to those.
39:00
Yes, this is a huge one down there.
39:03
I think you're going to see a great environment.
39:05
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