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- 0:11Speaker 3: This He's Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
- 0:19Speaker 1: What is up? Everyone? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Thursday,
- 0:24Speaker 1: March twenty first, and this is a holiday to for
- 0:29Speaker 1: most people around the world in sports. They love this day.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Sometimes it's big on free agency, and I'm sure there's
- 0:36Speaker 1: some big free agency news not really going on right
- 0:39Speaker 1: now at the Star. Maybe a few things will happen
- 0:42Speaker 1: here and there, but March Madness obviously is going around.
- 0:45Speaker 1: You see a lot of people trying to, you know,
- 0:48Speaker 1: fill out brackets and watch games and you know, probably
- 0:51Speaker 1: watch their first basketball game of the whole season today.
- 0:54Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's the fun of it. But that's
- 0:58Speaker 1: not what you guys are want to talk about. You
- 1:00Speaker 1: want to talk about the Cowboys, which I understand. Unfortunately
- 1:04Speaker 1: this is not hasn't been a lot happening here in
- 1:07Speaker 1: these last few days. But still we're always looking forward, looking, uh,
- 1:11Speaker 1: looking towards the draft off season. I'm sure you guys
- 1:14Speaker 1: have a lot of questions, so we're gonna get to it.
- 1:17Speaker 1: We've had a couple of guys been holding for a while.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Apologize for that. So let's get it going here. Paul
- 1:21Speaker 1: is in Vancouver, Canada. What's up, man, Paul. I'm good.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Thank you for holding as long as you did. I
- 1:29Speaker 1: appreciate that.
- 1:31Speaker 4: Oh, my brothers, I hope you and Chris are dentwell.
- 1:32Speaker 1: We're good. What's on your mind?
- 1:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to kind of like, I value
- 1:37Speaker 4: your opinion a lot, so I was wondering what your
- 1:39Speaker 4: thoughts are on with the Cowboys and preegency, like like historically,
- 1:44Speaker 4: because you remember when we went back years ago when
- 1:47Speaker 4: first day of pre agency we signed Anthony Henry, Marco Rivera,
- 1:50Speaker 4: and Jason Ferguson. I think that was a very mixed bag.
- 1:53Speaker 4: Like Anthony Henry was a hit, Ferguson was up and down,
- 1:57Speaker 4: and Rivera wasn't the same guy. He wasn't Green Bay.
- 2:01Speaker 4: And then more recently, like guys like Cedric Thornton, we
- 2:04Speaker 4: forget about him and Nolan Carroll. I think he played
- 2:07Speaker 4: two games for us, but those guys kind of send
- 2:09Speaker 4: us back because we had back on his rookie deal,
- 2:13Speaker 4: and those guys just kind of, you know, affect your
- 2:16Speaker 4: cap negatively. So I don't think freegency hasn't address I'm
- 2:19Speaker 4: not saying don't sign anybody, but I'm okay with the
- 2:22Speaker 4: Cowboys being cautious and not sacrificing their ability to sign
- 2:27Speaker 4: core guys. So I'm kind of okay with what they're doing.
- 2:30Speaker 4: I just wanted to get your thoughts on historically with
- 2:32Speaker 4: free agency, like how it's you think a bit. I
- 2:36Speaker 4: was hoping you can also touch on Sam Williams because
- 2:38Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his. I think he's gonna
- 2:40Speaker 4: have a big year and I do think he's a
- 2:42Speaker 4: better run player than Fouler and Armstrong's. I want to
- 2:46Speaker 4: see what you thought about that. And I really enjoy
- 2:49Speaker 4: when you have Darren Woodson on one player. Uh yeah,
- 2:54Speaker 4: he's the best. So when we talk about like our
- 2:57Speaker 4: older players and dynasty years, we never really talk about
- 3:00Speaker 4: Kevin Smith and you stick about all the guys he
- 3:03Speaker 4: had to match up with back in the day, Like
- 3:04Speaker 4: I'm kind of wondering why if you had any stories
- 3:06Speaker 4: on him, and why he's never talked about like he was.
- 3:09Speaker 4: I think he was one of our better players doc
- 3:11Speaker 4: going to be. And yeah, all right, I just want
- 3:13Speaker 4: thank you for taking my call. Thanks to make got
- 3:16Speaker 4: out of the calls to get to and help talk again.
- 3:17Speaker 1: To Thanks, Paul, appreciate that. A lot of good stuff there.
- 3:21Speaker 1: We'll get to it. Free agency historically, you know, it
- 3:26Speaker 1: hasn't been hasn't been great. There's been some you know,
- 3:29Speaker 1: when I think of the best ones, I think of
- 3:31Speaker 1: like getting Leroy Glover, you know, like two weeks into
- 3:36Speaker 1: free agency when the price tag kind of went down.
- 3:38Speaker 1: And I think they remember that too, and that's kind
- 3:40Speaker 1: of what they're always hoping for, is you know, you
- 3:43Speaker 1: get that steal once once the market is is drying
- 3:47Speaker 1: up a little bit, and you know, it's it's a
- 3:48Speaker 1: game of musical chairs for these veterans and you're sitting there.
- 3:51Speaker 1: You don't want to be without a chair, you know, so,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and I understand, I totally I get that. I think
- 3:58Speaker 1: the biggest issue for me though, it's just like you're
- 4:03Speaker 1: not getting your own guys resigned. I think everyone sort
- 4:06Speaker 1: of understands that they're not going to go out and
- 4:08Speaker 1: set the markets and get these guys, but it's it's
- 4:11Speaker 1: not being able to just keep your own core players
- 4:14Speaker 1: and watching them go out the door, watching them go
- 4:16Speaker 1: to Washington. That's really what's happening. A team that that is,
- 4:21Speaker 1: you know, they're thirty I think the Cowboys beat them
- 4:24Speaker 1: by twenty eight and thirty five. You know, so four
- 4:27Speaker 1: to five touchdowns better than Washington last season. But it
- 4:31Speaker 1: looks like with dan Quinn and then some of the
- 4:33Speaker 1: guys that they're they're bringing in that they're gonna you know,
- 4:37Speaker 1: kind of close the gap a little bit. See what
- 4:38Speaker 1: happens at quarterback for them too. They're gonna have a
- 4:41Speaker 1: you know, a new quarterback and he's going to be
- 4:42Speaker 1: a rookie and you know, we'll see how how good
- 4:45Speaker 1: that is. But but that's kind of been the key
- 4:48Speaker 1: there with with three agency this year is just not
- 4:50Speaker 1: keep keeping your own guys. Sam Williams, Yeah, he's gonna
- 4:53Speaker 1: have to to replace either you know, Fallor or Armstrong
- 4:57Speaker 1: or both. I mean, he's gonna get a lot more
- 5:00Speaker 1: playing time. He's got to be disciplined. I mean, that's
- 5:03Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, he doesn't get a lot of snaps,
- 5:05Speaker 1: and when he's out there, it seems there's way too
- 5:08Speaker 1: many penalties for the amount of snaps he gets. That's
- 5:10Speaker 1: on special teams. Now he's gonna be playing a little
- 5:13Speaker 1: bit more on defense. He's got to be disciplined with penalties.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Got to be disciplined and run support. We know he can,
- 5:19Speaker 1: you know, get off to the quarterback and make plays.
- 5:21Speaker 1: He's just got to be smart, you know. You know
- 5:23Speaker 1: there's guys like that. Randy Gregory was sort of that way.
- 5:26Speaker 1: You know, when he was on, he was on, But
- 5:28Speaker 1: he also had some issues sometimes with penalties. He'd hit, laid,
- 5:31Speaker 1: he'd retaliate, things like that. He's got to be you know,
- 5:34Speaker 1: mature as a as a player as well. And then
- 5:37Speaker 1: as for Kevin Smith, you know, I didn't cover him
- 5:40Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, he was one of those guys
- 5:43Speaker 1: that was a little overshadowed. And when he got hurt,
- 5:46Speaker 1: you know, his injury in nineteen ninety five really opened
- 5:49Speaker 1: the door even more for them to sign Deon Sanders
- 5:52Speaker 1: that year. And you know, he came back from an
- 5:55Speaker 1: achilles injury and him and Dion did play something together,
- 5:58Speaker 1: but not a lot. But yeah, he was a really
- 6:00Speaker 1: good cover corner, solid player, just first round draft picked,
- 6:04Speaker 1: solid guy and uh and and I think underrated too.
- 6:08Speaker 1: They called him pump Kevin Smith. All right, let's go
- 6:10Speaker 1: to Michael. He's in Colton, California.
- 6:14Speaker 5: Hey, what's going on? Nick Ay, shout out to you
- 6:17Speaker 5: and and the producer Chris back there and the whole
- 6:21Speaker 5: Cowboys storyline show Hey the other day right. Ever since
- 6:25Speaker 5: the Cowboys lost in the playoffs, first round whatever, I
- 6:29Speaker 5: have not listened to anything.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Man.
- 6:31Speaker 5: I was devastated. I was in my phillies. I'm not
- 6:33Speaker 5: even gonna lie, but I turned it on and man,
- 6:37Speaker 5: it was awesome. I heard, I heard your your all
- 6:39Speaker 5: storyline team and I made an honorable mention. Man, I
- 6:43Speaker 5: was smiling from year to years. So I just want
- 6:44Speaker 5: to say thank you for that. Man. That was awesome.
- 6:47Speaker 5: And uh, man, I think I can speak for a
- 6:49Speaker 5: lot of people when I say we love your show, but.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Appreciate that I appreciate. I think he actually made a
- 6:55Speaker 1: third team. I think you're on on on the group
- 6:58Speaker 1: if I okay it.
- 7:01Speaker 5: Yeah, my name was mentioned saying hey, you know what
- 7:03Speaker 5: I want to say, the Captain Rob Wild deserve man.
- 7:06Speaker 5: That dude is awesome. I love to hear his his
- 7:08Speaker 5: takes and all that when he talks. Man. But like
- 7:11Speaker 5: I said, man, just thank you to the to you
- 7:12Speaker 5: and the show man. You got an awesome show going. Yes, Sir,
- 7:16Speaker 5: I told my wife about I thought she was gonna
- 7:18Speaker 5: be happy for me. She said, you could sit on
- 7:21Speaker 5: the phone waiting to talk to the Cowboys show, but
- 7:23Speaker 5: you can't call for your doctor's appointment.
- 7:28Speaker 1: I've been there, I know how that. Ye. Yeah, be careful,
- 7:32Speaker 1: you do all that kind of stuff.
- 7:33Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, sir, But hey, I just I want to
- 7:37Speaker 5: ask you, you know what, do you think it's nothing?
- 7:40Speaker 4: Nothing?
- 7:41Speaker 5: We we've been down this road before with the whole
- 7:43Speaker 5: Dak Prescott conversation, but not even on that aspect. Just
- 7:46Speaker 5: as far as business, do you think that one of
- 7:48Speaker 5: these quarterbacks. I know it's not gonna be Caleb Williams
- 7:52Speaker 5: or or or the guy from Jayden Daniels or or
- 7:55Speaker 5: nothing like that, but if somebody slips, like and I
- 7:58Speaker 5: think Michael Pinnix is a lot better than and then
- 8:00Speaker 5: people are giving him credit for But do you think
- 8:02Speaker 5: there's a chance that the Cowboys might might take one
- 8:05Speaker 5: of those quarterbacks if they were to slip or anything,
- 8:08Speaker 5: just for it, Like I said, the business aspect of
- 8:10Speaker 5: the Prescott contract not being done, And.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to do that. I mean you have
- 8:16Speaker 1: to think that way. That's I don't think that's out
- 8:20Speaker 1: of the question too. That's a good question. And Michael,
- 8:22Speaker 1: thanks thanks for the call, you know, unless you had another.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Did you have another call? Point?
- 8:28Speaker 5: No, that's it. Thank you, sir, God bless you and
- 8:31Speaker 5: the whole team over there.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Man, you guys are awesome, all right, thank you, Michael,
- 8:33Speaker 1: appreciate that. Uh no, I you know, that's that's interesting,
- 8:39Speaker 1: you know. And you also got to remember Mike McCarthy
- 8:43Speaker 1: in Green Bay. This is kind of what they did.
- 8:46Speaker 1: You know, he was there when they drafted Aaron Rodgers.
- 8:50Speaker 1: I believe. I think he was there in five. I
- 8:53Speaker 1: think he was there and then he took over in
- 8:55Speaker 1: six as the head coach. But definitely knows the story
- 8:58Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers being drafted when Brett Farther still on
- 9:00Speaker 1: the team, and then Aaron Rodgers has the career he
- 9:04Speaker 1: has and they go and they draft Jordan Love, you know,
- 9:07Speaker 1: and while Aaron Rodgers is there. It doesn't sit well.
- 9:10Speaker 1: It doesn't sit well with the first round. Wait, with
- 9:13Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, who's sitting here going, why don't you
- 9:17Speaker 1: draft somebody that'll help me today and not someone that
- 9:21Speaker 1: you know, I have to look over my shoulder at.
- 9:24Speaker 1: I don't think it would happen in the first round.
- 9:27Speaker 1: This is a team that doesn't have a lot of
- 9:28Speaker 1: picks this year and they need these picks to hit
- 9:31Speaker 1: so they can play well and compete. And it's a
- 9:36Speaker 1: tough one because you know, you've got coaches and quarterbacks
- 9:40Speaker 1: that on one year deals are like, let's let's win
- 9:42Speaker 1: this thing. You know, let's give me some guys that
- 9:44Speaker 1: can help. And then you've got ownership that's thinking maybe
- 9:46Speaker 1: a little bit more big picture. So I'll say this,
- 9:50Speaker 1: if a quarterback like that is falling, the Cowboys will
- 9:53Speaker 1: be interested, maybe not to draft them themselves, but we'll
- 9:56Speaker 1: see if anybody else wants to do that. They've done that.
- 9:59Speaker 1: They've showed in the past a couple of times. Two
- 10:02Speaker 1: thousand and four, I believe, two thousand and seven maybe
- 10:07Speaker 1: when there was a quarterback sitting there, and the Cowboys
- 10:09Speaker 1: will say, if you want them, trade us, you know
- 10:12Speaker 1: this or this, and you can have them and we'll
- 10:15Speaker 1: you know, and then they get a little bit more
- 10:17Speaker 1: out of it. So they may be more of a
- 10:19Speaker 1: player in that regard than actually drafting themselves. But I
- 10:22Speaker 1: will say I think they would be. I mean, you could,
- 10:26Speaker 1: you could say you draft a quarterback, but you know,
- 10:29Speaker 1: if you're drafting a quarterback who's falling, You've got that
- 10:32Speaker 1: in Trey Lance. You already have that guy. And so
- 10:36Speaker 1: that's that's probably why you won't see a lot of
- 10:39Speaker 1: quarterbacks or any quarterbacks really being taken, because there's jury
- 10:42Speaker 1: is still. I mean, if this guy's falling to twenty one,
- 10:44Speaker 1: I mean, how about the guy that went three overall? Right?
- 10:46Speaker 1: I mean Trey Lance. So I think they feel like
- 10:49Speaker 1: they have that guy in place if it's time to
- 10:52Speaker 1: go that route. All right, Michael in Bowling Green, Kentucky's next,
- 10:56Speaker 1: Hey man, good, how are you doing?
- 11:00Speaker 6: Get them on vacation this week?
- 11:02Speaker 1: Good?
- 11:04Speaker 6: I've been I've been thinking about some stuff, you know,
- 11:07Speaker 6: the Cowboys been doing, listening to the shows, listen to
- 11:10Speaker 6: the people, and I say, how can I'm thinking, you know,
- 11:14Speaker 6: we're we're still loaded. I mean, yeah, we lost some guys,
- 11:19Speaker 6: but you know, maybe not you know, terrible so ones
- 11:25Speaker 6: we lost, right, but uh, I mean the Cowboys are
- 11:28Speaker 6: still pretty loaded. And you know they're gonna are they
- 11:32Speaker 6: gonna get some comp picts for this for this draft
- 11:35Speaker 6: from players they've lost, or that'd be for the next.
- 11:37Speaker 1: They already have got those. They've got two. I think
- 11:40Speaker 1: they got a fifth and a sixth, one for Dalton
- 11:42Speaker 1: Scheltz and one for Connor McGovern. So they they they
- 11:47Speaker 1: did receive two fifth and a sixth and next year
- 11:50Speaker 1: they'll probably get and the maximum you can get is four,
- 11:53Speaker 1: so they have a good chance to get four next
- 11:56Speaker 1: year just by all the guys that they've lost. It
- 11:58Speaker 1: depends on what they do the year, though.
- 12:01Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think I think with a good
- 12:04Speaker 6: I mean I really really want that powers dude. I mean,
- 12:07Speaker 6: I hope they get him in the first round. Yeah,
- 12:10Speaker 6: but uh, I mean, I mean I think with a
- 12:13Speaker 6: good draft, I mean, like I said, they're already loaded,
- 12:16Speaker 6: they're still going to be competitive this year. Yeah, So
- 12:21Speaker 6: I mean I'm not panting like you know, I know
- 12:23Speaker 6: a lot of people are. But another thing I thought
- 12:26Speaker 6: about was people, you know, people were like, yet, oh,
- 12:28Speaker 6: Dak's gotta go. Well, you know, it's it's almost twenty
- 12:32Speaker 6: years since we haven't had Dak Prescott or Tony Romo's quarterback,
- 12:38Speaker 6: two franchise quarterbacks. So you know, a lot of people
- 12:43Speaker 6: don't even remember or don't even think about having a
- 12:48Speaker 6: not not having a franchise quarterback. So I mean, I
- 12:52Speaker 6: think if if they if the Cowboys went, hey, we're
- 12:55Speaker 6: going to get rid of Dak. We're going to put
- 12:58Speaker 6: him out there on look, and it would be a
- 13:00Speaker 6: frenzy of people of teams trying to get back. It
- 13:04Speaker 6: would be crazy. Yeah, and then they get rid of McCarthy.
- 13:08Speaker 6: McCarthy probably out of a job a couple of days.
- 13:11Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't think people realize what they're
- 13:14Speaker 6: asking for right now.
- 13:17Speaker 1: They they they just look at Dak after eight years
- 13:21Speaker 1: and think, well, he hasn't gotten the job done, so
- 13:24Speaker 1: he can't. You know, it's not about that he won't
- 13:27Speaker 1: or he just they feel like he can't. And I
- 13:30Speaker 1: don't believe that way.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I don't.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't happen. But
- 13:35Speaker 1: I am a believer that he needs some help and
- 13:37Speaker 1: it's not easy to do when he has a contract
- 13:40Speaker 1: that takes up a lot of the salary cap and
- 13:42Speaker 1: you have other players as well. That's what makes this tough.
- 13:46Speaker 1: You want to have great players. These great players we
- 13:48Speaker 1: put all over the wall here that you can't really see,
- 13:51Speaker 1: but but I mean, you know we we this is
- 13:53Speaker 1: on the marquee. This is this is what this team
- 13:55Speaker 1: is about. It's it's superstars. Look at the jerseys, look
- 13:59Speaker 1: you know in the stands. This is what it is.
- 14:01Speaker 1: But those guys require big contracts and when when the
- 14:06Speaker 1: you know, and I just Chris Beam just put something.
- 14:11Speaker 1: I'm not This isn't Chris saying this. This is this
- 14:13Speaker 1: is kind of what people have said, kind of in
- 14:14Speaker 1: the building. You've got some players, you know that are
- 14:17Speaker 1: in B B plus type players getting A plus money.
- 14:21Speaker 1: That's that's the reality. And so what do you think?
- 14:24Speaker 1: What do you think Michael Parsons thinks about Dorin Armstrong
- 14:27Speaker 1: getting fifteen million a year? Like cool, thirty yeah, thirty
- 14:32Speaker 1: forty five. I mean, Michael Parsons is you know, I
- 14:37Speaker 1: think twice the player that dorn Armstrong is And that's
- 14:40Speaker 1: not Yeah, of course of course he did that. That's
- 14:45Speaker 1: the point. Now, that's that's that. Yes, that means that
- 14:50Speaker 1: means that this guy's gonna get overpaid her. That's not
- 14:53Speaker 1: even a work, but it should be. It should be.
- 14:55Speaker 1: All right, Michael, appreciate it, thank you. Uh, let me
- 14:59Speaker 1: get a couple of these text questions in here. This
- 15:02Speaker 1: is Brian and Carson City, Nevada. And he says, Hey, Nick,
- 15:05Speaker 1: I'm a first time texter. What do you think, Chris,
- 15:09Speaker 1: first time Texter. Here we go. No, probably on the phone.
- 15:13Speaker 1: That's what happens when you hang up. Call it rings again.
- 15:16Speaker 1: He's on the phone. But I still think that's worthy
- 15:18Speaker 1: of it. Here we go, all right, we won't know. Hey,
- 15:23Speaker 1: this is a question. We won't know this. We won't
- 15:25Speaker 1: know where this season will go until after the draft.
- 15:27Speaker 1: There's a lot of offseason to go. Here's a fun question.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Without injuries. Tell me what three former Cowboy players who
- 15:34Speaker 1: retired early might have made it to the Hall of Fame.
- 15:39Speaker 1: His examples are Sean Lee, that win if they had
- 15:43Speaker 1: played long enough. I don't know about that win. He
- 15:45Speaker 1: don't think he ever made it to a Pro Bowl.
- 15:48Speaker 1: Sean Lee. I mean, yeah, Shawn Lee. Injuries for him,
- 15:54Speaker 1: without a doubt. I mean that that that kind of
- 15:56Speaker 1: that hurt him big time because he was that good
- 15:59Speaker 1: of a player. He did everything that you wanted a
- 16:03Speaker 1: player to be. I mean he studied the game inside
- 16:07Speaker 1: and out. He did that from the moment he got here.
- 16:10Speaker 1: He played with instincts and that helped him. You know,
- 16:13Speaker 1: he wasn't the best athlete in the world, but you
- 16:15Speaker 1: wouldn't know that. You know when he was healthy, because
- 16:18Speaker 1: he is healthy, he played with his instincts. He was
- 16:20Speaker 1: so quick to the ball. Yeah, I put him in
- 16:23Speaker 1: that category for sure. Other guys injury wise that that
- 16:28Speaker 1: kind of hurt them. I mean, this is somewhat of
- 16:33Speaker 1: a stretch, but you could say, I'll say this, I'd
- 16:38Speaker 1: like to see Tony Romo play three or four more years,
- 16:41Speaker 1: you know, And that's nothing against Dak. I just we
- 16:44Speaker 1: said this the other day. I think that Tony had
- 16:47Speaker 1: really figured it out. I think he'd kind of figured
- 16:49Speaker 1: out how to do this, what defenses were trying to
- 16:53Speaker 1: do to him, and how he could beat them, and
- 16:56Speaker 1: his body was failing him all at the same time.
- 16:59Speaker 1: I think I think he could have been that guy
- 17:02Speaker 1: that that, you know, he could have been. All he's
- 17:06Speaker 1: got to do is win. I mean, I'll say all
- 17:07Speaker 1: he's gotta do. But if he if he could have
- 17:09Speaker 1: won a super Bowl, he's in the Hall of Fame.
- 17:12Speaker 1: I mean, if he went to Super Bowl. I've always
- 17:14Speaker 1: said this, Tony Romo would have been considered one of
- 17:17Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the game, if not the best.
- 17:19Speaker 1: It only took one for people to think that about Rogers.
- 17:23Speaker 1: At one time, people thought that maybe about Breeze he
- 17:25Speaker 1: would have been the same, especially the way he played,
- 17:28Speaker 1: the way he you know, so I would have loved
- 17:30Speaker 1: just seeing a few more years out of Tony. But obviously,
- 17:34Speaker 1: you know with Daky that we wouldn't have been able
- 17:38Speaker 1: to see him the same way. I'm sure that's a
- 17:41Speaker 1: good question. Maybe if you know, maybe maybe that's one
- 17:43Speaker 1: we can take over into next week or so. I'd
- 17:46Speaker 1: like to see other people, you know, back in the
- 17:48Speaker 1: seventies or something like that. You know that there might
- 17:51Speaker 1: be some some other answers of guys that I can't
- 17:54Speaker 1: really recall. The injuries sort of you know, hurt their career.
- 17:58Speaker 1: They didn't, they didn't. They weren't the same for a
- 18:01Speaker 1: Hall of Fame level type guy, you know, Dez just
- 18:06Speaker 1: kind of you know, he just kind of wore down
- 18:08Speaker 1: a little bit more than anything. Let me get another
- 18:10Speaker 1: text question in here. This is from uh. This is
- 18:14Speaker 1: from Zach in Atlanta. He says, I think Zimmer can
- 18:17Speaker 1: develop Sam Williams and Mozzi Smith, which will help tremendously.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Those two pieces can offset the departures we've had. It's
- 18:25Speaker 1: old cowboys, Brady James, any stories or memories let's go
- 18:30Speaker 1: back Sam Williams and Mozzi Smith. I mean, yeah, that's
- 18:34Speaker 1: the goal. I mean, this is a third year for
- 18:35Speaker 1: Sam Williams. He needs to be developed. I think Dan
- 18:38Speaker 1: Quinn could have done that as well. Again, I've kind
- 18:40Speaker 1: of mentioned it already in the show what I think
- 18:42Speaker 1: Sam Williams needs to do to get better. He's got
- 18:45Speaker 1: the tools, I mean, and he had the tools at all, miss.
- 18:48Speaker 1: I mean, he he had the tools. Uh, he's just
- 18:50Speaker 1: got to kind of put it together and and make,
- 18:54Speaker 1: you know, make being a great football player number one.
- 18:57Speaker 1: I mean, this has got to be number one for
- 18:59Speaker 1: him to being being a great football player, not just
- 19:02Speaker 1: to be out there, but but to be a really
- 19:04Speaker 1: great player. And that's just maturity. And that's all players.
- 19:07Speaker 1: I mean number eleven, Micah Parsons, same thing. I mean,
- 19:10Speaker 1: he is a great player, but he's still he can
- 19:13Speaker 1: mature in other ways. We all can, you know. I
- 19:15Speaker 1: mean I'm on the you know, I'm a little south
- 19:17Speaker 1: of fifty. I can mature too, you know. I mean
- 19:21Speaker 1: sometimes a lot of ways I could do that, but
- 19:24Speaker 1: we all can. This is not a knock on anyone.
- 19:26Speaker 1: This is just how they take it to the next level.
- 19:28Speaker 1: This is how, this is what needs to happen for
- 19:30Speaker 1: them to get better, because since some players they've got
- 19:33Speaker 1: all the things you need, you know, physically, they just
- 19:37Speaker 1: need to kind of figure it out. We just said
- 19:38Speaker 1: that about Romo. I mean Romo he kind of figured
- 19:41Speaker 1: it out mentally and it just it just didn't really
- 19:44Speaker 1: correlate with what his body was telling him at the
- 19:47Speaker 1: same time. All right, let's go with Travis and san
- 19:51Speaker 1: Antonio is next.
- 19:53Speaker 7: I think, what's going on?
- 19:54Speaker 1: How you doing?
- 19:55Speaker 7: I'm doing good doing that. I've got apparently a better
- 19:58Speaker 7: internet situation than you guys have going on, which is
- 20:01Speaker 7: it's unfortunate. But I told Chris, I said, I know
- 20:03Speaker 7: you guys are pros. You'll work through it.
- 20:05Speaker 1: We are. This is in the middle of working through it.
- 20:08Speaker 1: So I appreciate the call. I appreciate all the calls,
- 20:12Speaker 1: but even today, more than anything, we need these calls
- 20:15Speaker 1: to come through to make this show happen and that
- 20:17Speaker 1: hopefully it won't sound or look like anything's different even
- 20:20Speaker 1: though it is on the back end. There you go, Thanks,
- 20:23Speaker 1: Where do you go?
- 20:25Speaker 7: I just want to I know we talked on Tuesday,
- 20:28Speaker 7: and I know you gave kind of your answer on
- 20:32Speaker 7: like how you would do things different. And I guess
- 20:35Speaker 7: the only thing I just wanted to clarify, Like the
- 20:37Speaker 7: reason I'm thinking outside the box on some stuff is
- 20:40Speaker 7: just because it's kind of like sometimes when Brian brought
- 20:42Speaker 7: us talks about draft stuff, he's like he'll give who
- 20:45Speaker 7: he thinks or like who he would draft and who
- 20:48Speaker 7: he thinks the Cowboys are draft, and I guess I can't.
- 20:51Speaker 7: I kind of coming from a spot of like I
- 20:53Speaker 7: think they've told us, you know, this is how they're
- 20:56Speaker 7: going to go about things based on like I said,
- 20:59Speaker 7: if you're not going to be a big time player
- 21:00Speaker 7: in free agency, and it hasn't like you said, if
- 21:03Speaker 7: they haven't changed it, even though maybe it should, they
- 21:05Speaker 7: haven't changed it. So this is what you got. So
- 21:07Speaker 7: I guess I just want to like that's kind of
- 21:09Speaker 7: where I come from them, like if you're not going
- 21:11Speaker 7: to go that route, then we gotta then you gotta
- 21:14Speaker 7: like pivot to something. And I was listening to one
- 21:17Speaker 7: to five through the fans, so like I'm i gonna
- 21:19Speaker 7: I'm gonna give them credit because I think it was
- 21:21Speaker 7: Gavin that was talking about an interesting concept as far
- 21:25Speaker 7: as like he thinks like sometimes the way he thinks,
- 21:29Speaker 7: like Steven and Jerry look at this as it's kind
- 21:31Speaker 7: of like a portfolio where they're gonna invest in their
- 21:34Speaker 7: own and you know, you're gonna keep your portfolio healthy
- 21:38Speaker 7: and you're gonna kind of live off the dividends. But
- 21:41Speaker 7: you never actually there's never like a you know, you
- 21:43Speaker 7: know how we act like a four one K. You
- 21:45Speaker 7: can do aggressive investing, you can do kind of like
- 21:49Speaker 7: you know, passive, and we've never really been There hasn't
- 21:53Speaker 7: been that shift yet to the aggressive change. And I
- 21:56Speaker 7: guess this is this is the first off season Nick, like,
- 22:00Speaker 7: obviously I'm a hardcore fan because I'm calling in and
- 22:03Speaker 7: you kind of mentioned that, but this is the first
- 22:05Speaker 7: offseason where I do again, and not to blabor the point,
- 22:09Speaker 7: but the whole all in thing, I think for some
- 22:11Speaker 7: fans and even for me, it was a little bit
- 22:13Speaker 7: patronizing because I know, like when we say all in,
- 22:16Speaker 7: I know Stephen Jones knows what we need, like because
- 22:19Speaker 7: he's commented on what the Rams did and he congratulate
- 22:22Speaker 7: them like, yeah, you know, they did what they did,
- 22:24Speaker 7: they got a championship and so he so it's not
- 22:27Speaker 7: like they don't know what we're talking about. So I
- 22:29Speaker 7: think when they say all in, it's just kind of
- 22:31Speaker 7: like some fans like, then why are you saying it
- 22:33Speaker 7: like that?
- 22:33Speaker 1: Then, like Jerry, come on now and I and when
- 22:36Speaker 1: we hang up here, I've got a text question here
- 22:38Speaker 1: that I'm going to address about all in as well.
- 22:40Speaker 1: But we need to stop saying they said it. They
- 22:45Speaker 1: didn't say all in. Steven did not say that. Jerry
- 22:49Speaker 1: said it. Jerry answered the question, and I'll get into
- 22:52Speaker 1: the exact answer I'm going to. I'm going to break
- 22:55Speaker 1: down the all in comment one more time. But you're right,
- 23:01Speaker 1: I mean, Steven knows what all in it means. That's
- 23:05Speaker 1: why he didn't say it.
- 23:06Speaker 7: But but he did sort of say it because he
- 23:09Speaker 7: said he said, like our version, he said, our version
- 23:12Speaker 7: of it in the cliff that I saw him say,
- 23:14Speaker 7: he said, our version of it is keeping our core intact, right, right,
- 23:19Speaker 7: So that's without saying maybe without actually saying it, like
- 23:22Speaker 7: that's a sneakier way of saying it. But he's saying,
- 23:24Speaker 7: like this is our version of all in. But you know,
- 23:27Speaker 7: I'm saying, like there's a different version of that.
- 23:28Speaker 1: Like I think that it goes back to what I
- 23:32Speaker 1: said before about a kid that that that doesn't appreciate
- 23:35Speaker 1: the twelve toys that he already has. You know, he
- 23:37Speaker 1: just wants the new one. So no one's going to
- 23:40Speaker 1: get that excited when you say, guess what, they re
- 23:42Speaker 1: signed Micah Parsons or they re signed DEC or they
- 23:45Speaker 1: re signed CD. You're not going to get that excited.
- 23:47Speaker 1: You're going to be like, what took so long? How
- 23:49Speaker 1: much did he get? Cool? But you're not like, oh
- 23:52Speaker 1: my god, thank you because you don't expect him to leave.
- 23:55Speaker 1: But the reality is is that you know they could
- 23:58Speaker 1: have got Ceedee Lamb at twenty for twenty five million
- 24:01Speaker 1: maybe before the season started. Now he's gonna be maybe
- 24:05Speaker 1: a thirty million dollar player. That's that happens.
- 24:08Speaker 7: But you but you may not get the excited part
- 24:10Speaker 7: of it, which I understand your point on that, but
- 24:12Speaker 7: you also won't get the like the pissed off portion either.
- 24:16Speaker 7: Like it's just being straight. It's just being straight with people.
- 24:18Speaker 7: If you just be straight and just say, hey, this
- 24:20Speaker 7: is our strategy, I understand some people might not like it,
- 24:23Speaker 7: but okay, what we believe him? That would be a
- 24:25Speaker 7: better answer.
- 24:26Speaker 1: All right, all right, I appreciate the call Travis and
- 24:29Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on you too. All right, let me
- 24:31Speaker 1: go to this next this question here. This was from
- 24:36Speaker 1: Tom and Norman Norman, Oklahoma. I assume Tom. He says,
- 24:40Speaker 1: can you address this part of Jerry Jones all in quote?
- 24:44Speaker 1: We will push the hell out of it. It will
- 24:46Speaker 1: be going all in on different people than you've done
- 24:50Speaker 1: in the past. We will be going all in. I
- 24:53Speaker 1: don't know where that quote's from. I'm not sure where
- 24:55Speaker 1: that quote is from. I haven't seen that one that
- 25:01Speaker 1: that that sounds a lot more aggressive. I know, I've
- 25:04Speaker 1: never seen that quote. With the quote that I've seen
- 25:07Speaker 1: that came out of the Senior Bowl was a question
- 25:11Speaker 1: that was that that said, will you guys is this
- 25:15Speaker 1: an all in type of season? And Jerry's response is,
- 25:19Speaker 1: I would anticipate with with looking ahead to the key
- 25:23Speaker 1: contracts we'd like to address, will be all in. We
- 25:27Speaker 1: will be all in. This is what he says. I
- 25:30Speaker 1: would anticipate we'll be all in at the end of
- 25:33Speaker 1: this year. So that's the quote. I don't really know
- 25:39Speaker 1: this other quote. So so we'll be all in. I
- 25:44Speaker 1: you know, I've said this before. I really feel like,
- 25:47Speaker 1: you know, with with the one year deals that they have,
- 25:49Speaker 1: with the money that they're getting tied in, with the
- 25:52Speaker 1: cloudy future that's ahead of dak this is kind of it.
- 25:55Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the one where the
- 25:57Speaker 1: windows closing, and this is this is the one that
- 26:00Speaker 1: they feel like the chips have been pushed in now
- 26:02Speaker 1: they're waiting on the cards. That's what this season is about.
- 26:06Speaker 1: That's not what the way the fans took it. The
- 26:07Speaker 1: fans took it that they're going to be trading for
- 26:10Speaker 1: top players. They're going to be you know, maybe moving
- 26:14Speaker 1: next year's one and moving up in the draft and
- 26:16Speaker 1: getting you know, that's the way they took it. And uh,
- 26:18Speaker 1: I think I think the Cowboys have always approached it
- 26:21Speaker 1: as you know, this is all in for us. You know,
- 26:24Speaker 1: we we've been all in for two or three years now,
- 26:27Speaker 1: you know, two or three years of of of pushing
- 26:30Speaker 1: these contracts like this. So it's it's unfortunate that that
- 26:34Speaker 1: we're still talking about it, but you know, because fans
- 26:38Speaker 1: not really going to drop it. That's that's the that's
- 26:41Speaker 1: the reality of it. That's the version of all in
- 26:43Speaker 1: that they have. All Right, Jeff in Salt Lake City, Utah,
- 26:48Speaker 1: how you doing good. How you doing.
- 26:50Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. I just wanted to chat with
- 26:53Speaker 2: you a little bit. I like to I like how
- 26:56Speaker 2: Brian always gives you an old player. Yeah, I wanted
- 26:59Speaker 2: to wanted to talk to you, or wanted to ask
- 27:01Speaker 2: you if you remember Derek Ross. I'm a big Ohio
- 27:04Speaker 2: State fan, so yeah, I remember him coming out and
- 27:07Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be a great player.
- 27:09Speaker 2: But he flamed out pretty quick. And I can't remember why.
- 27:12Speaker 2: I don't remember if that was a Parcels cut, But
- 27:15Speaker 2: I just wanted your parcels.
- 27:17Speaker 8: You remember that.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this about parcels. He you know, he
- 27:22Speaker 1: he had a different terminology on a lot of players.
- 27:25Speaker 1: And you might be surprised by this, but he calls
- 27:28Speaker 1: he called Derek Ross cute. He said he's a he's
- 27:31Speaker 1: a cute player.
- 27:33Speaker 2: Uh, I do remember that.
- 27:34Speaker 1: I just think he liked, you know, he just he
- 27:38Speaker 1: liked the tattoos, he liked his hair. You know, he
- 27:41Speaker 1: just liked the way his personality had. He was kind
- 27:43Speaker 1: of you know, he joked a lot a little bit.
- 27:46Speaker 1: It just it just his demeanor. He was on him
- 27:48Speaker 1: all the time, you know, he was on him. Uh,
- 27:51Speaker 1: Derek Ross is probably one of those guys where would
- 27:54Speaker 1: be in the top you know, one hundred of just
- 27:58Speaker 1: straight talent, you know. But and I don't remember all
- 28:03Speaker 1: of it either, you know, I don't remember kind of
- 28:07Speaker 1: why it didn't always work out. But yeah, he had
- 28:10Speaker 1: a kickoff return for a touchdown to start the game.
- 28:13Speaker 1: They got called back for a penalty against Washington. He played,
- 28:19Speaker 1: He played two or three years, right, Derek Cross.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Yeah, if I remember correctly, he was a third round pick.
- 28:24Speaker 2: And I know he got in uh late in the season,
- 28:27Speaker 2: maybe a veteran got hurt, but I can't really remember.
- 28:30Speaker 8: I thought he was super.
- 28:31Speaker 2: Talented, and then next thing, you know, he was gone.
- 28:34Speaker 2: So yeah, I figured that was just a Parcels thing.
- 28:37Speaker 1: But no, but I'll say this though Parcels liked him.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Parcels gave him chance. I mean, he definitely gave him,
- 28:43Speaker 1: gave him a chance to play. He just yeah, he
- 28:47Speaker 1: really liked Derek Ross. And I think he got five
- 28:49Speaker 1: picks his first year, right, And now, Derrek Ross was
- 28:53Speaker 1: was a draft pick in Campo's last year, oh two,
- 28:57Speaker 1: So you're right, you're right, third round pick. I want
- 29:00Speaker 1: to say he played in three or four seasons, you know,
- 29:06Speaker 1: and so anyway, and.
- 29:07Speaker 2: You're probably right, that was just kind of on my mind.
- 29:09Speaker 2: But I called you Tuesday for the first time, and
- 29:11Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to come back to a little
- 29:14Speaker 2: bit about my question. This one's more and I know,
- 29:17Speaker 2: just listening to you beforehand talking about the all End thing.
- 29:21Speaker 2: I'm one of those fans that I still kind of
- 29:23Speaker 2: can't tend to get over that. I thought when Jerry
- 29:26Speaker 2: said that, I was like, well, maybe this is the
- 29:28Speaker 2: year and you talk about his version of all in
- 29:31Speaker 2: maybe extending you know, our superstar players that we have,
- 29:35Speaker 2: Dak Micah CD. I guess my question is and more
- 29:40Speaker 2: of a player's perspective. We've heard Micah, you know, make
- 29:44Speaker 2: comments on his podcast or in the media how you know,
- 29:48Speaker 2: oh that, or we see him react to like signings
- 29:50Speaker 2: in Philly or other teams with his perspective, Dak's perspective,
- 29:56Speaker 2: you know, CD, the way that how competitive they are
- 30:00Speaker 2: and if you were looking from their eyes on kind
- 30:02Speaker 2: of what's taken place this offseason, all the players that
- 30:07Speaker 2: we've lost, not really having any come in and I
- 30:10Speaker 2: know we're still into free agency, we got the draft.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Do you think do you think in their minds they
- 30:15Speaker 2: could kind of be down on potentially wanting to resign here.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Like for example, if you look at CD, Dax could
- 30:23Speaker 2: be gone next year. I hope he's not. I'm a
- 30:25Speaker 2: Dak supporter, but as a wide receiver, you want to
- 30:28Speaker 2: play where you know that you have a pretty stable
- 30:30Speaker 2: quarterback situation. So do you think what's taking place this
- 30:34Speaker 2: offseason maybe a soft rebuild could potentially affect these guys
- 30:39Speaker 2: on wanting to resign here. And I know in the NFL,
- 30:42Speaker 2: if they want, if your team wants to keep you,
- 30:44Speaker 2: they're going to keep you with the fifth year option
- 30:46Speaker 2: and the franchise tag. I just wanted your thoughts on that,
- 30:51Speaker 2: maybe from a player's perspective, just something that I've been
- 30:54Speaker 2: kind of thinking about, Yeah, over the past couple of days.
- 30:57Speaker 1: Well, you know, Jeff, this comes down to just you know,
- 31:00Speaker 1: and you when someone hands you a piece of birthday cake,
- 31:02Speaker 1: do you eat it? You know? Do you take it
- 31:04Speaker 1: and you eat it? And that's it. I mean, I
- 31:07Speaker 1: would love to see the other side of the coin
- 31:11Speaker 1: and to see the faces of the people up there,
- 31:13Speaker 1: you know that do the contracts if they said, you
- 31:15Speaker 1: know what, we don't really like all the stuff that
- 31:18Speaker 1: you guys have been doing or not doing in free agency.
- 31:20Speaker 1: We don't really want to resign here, all the while
- 31:24Speaker 1: knowing that the reason why that they're trying to push
- 31:26Speaker 1: all this money that they've got to next year is
- 31:29Speaker 1: also because they know they've got three huge contracts to sign.
- 31:32Speaker 1: So what would it take. I mean, man, if CD
- 31:37Speaker 1: and Micah were like, you know, we really don't like
- 31:39Speaker 1: what's going on here, Well you want to go down
- 31:41Speaker 1: to you want to go down to twenty million a
- 31:43Speaker 1: year or you want to be the top top paid player.
- 31:46Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's my point, is that the reason
- 31:49Speaker 1: why they're not doing a lot is because of these
- 31:52Speaker 1: contracts that they know they have to do. Don't hold
- 31:54Speaker 1: them against them the fact that they you know, they
- 31:57Speaker 1: haven't done that.
- 31:57Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, No, no, spletely understand.
- 32:01Speaker 1: So I don't think they would they would think that way.
- 32:03Speaker 1: I think it would be it would be a quick
- 32:05Speaker 1: conversation like why are we signing anyone because we're trying
- 32:08Speaker 1: to give you thirty one million a year? Oh all
- 32:10Speaker 1: right right, all right, well right, thanks, see you later.
- 32:13Speaker 1: I'm gonna go work out. I mean, what else can
- 32:15Speaker 1: you do and say? I mean, now, I don't think
- 32:17Speaker 1: they would do that well.
- 32:19Speaker 2: But and then like you said, you know, in regards
- 32:21Speaker 2: to the front office, you know, CD is probably going
- 32:23Speaker 2: to be one of the top three wide receivers paid,
- 32:25Speaker 2: Micah potentially is going to be the top defensive player
- 32:28Speaker 2: yeah paid in the NFL. So I completely understand on
- 32:32Speaker 2: on on that portion. I just kind of a little
- 32:35Speaker 2: thinking outside the box. I appreciate your perspective on that.
- 32:38Speaker 2: I mean, it makes complete sense.
- 32:39Speaker 1: I think I know what you're saying, is is that
- 32:43Speaker 1: what what are we looking like here? I mean, because
- 32:46Speaker 1: is this is this going to be a down year?
- 32:49Speaker 1: Is this going? You know, are what what's what happens next?
- 32:53Speaker 1: But I mean if that's the case, I mean, how
- 32:56Speaker 1: do the Lions ever sign anyone? How does how did
- 32:59Speaker 1: the tight ever signed? How did the Jaguars sign people?
- 33:01Speaker 1: I'm talking about teams that traditionally just haven't had a
- 33:04Speaker 1: lot of success. Money talks a lot and it's loud,
- 33:08Speaker 1: so they and.
- 33:08Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I guess from what I'm what I'm seeing.
- 33:11Speaker 2: You know, like Dak one of the most competitive quarterbacks
- 33:15Speaker 2: in the NFL. Mike is a competitive freak. CD is
- 33:18Speaker 2: a competitive freak. Yeah, I just I just want to know,
- 33:21Speaker 2: and I know you can't answer for them, just like,
- 33:24Speaker 2: what what are they thinking about seeing you know, all
- 33:26Speaker 2: this all this turnover within the organization. So yeah, just
- 33:31Speaker 2: you know, you know, I understand what you're.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Saying, though, but but I think I think they they
- 33:36Speaker 1: look at it like, all right, Sam Williams, let's go.
- 33:40Speaker 1: You know, we lost Thorn, Tom Trunk, Sam Williams. I mean,
- 33:43Speaker 1: Dak probably looks at brock Hoffman and says, there's no
- 33:47Speaker 1: reason you can't be a guy. Just go TJ Bags.
- 33:50Speaker 1: You know, if the drafts someone, they draft someone. I mean,
- 33:54Speaker 1: I'm Dalen Tolbert for gallup.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Right right, And I'm the internal optimist. I'm a lot
- 34:00Speaker 2: like Jerry. I always think, no matter how many free
- 34:03Speaker 2: agents or draft picks don't hit, they can always win.
- 34:07Speaker 2: And they've shown us that the last three years. Yeah,
- 34:09Speaker 2: if they stay healthy, they can win games. So I
- 34:12Speaker 2: guess we'll just see how the rest of the offseason
- 34:14Speaker 2: plays out and see what they do. So thanks Nick
- 34:16Speaker 2: for taking my call.
- 34:17Speaker 7: I appreciate it.
- 34:18Speaker 1: No problem, all right, Jeff, appreciate that. Let me go
- 34:20Speaker 1: to another text question here. He said, this is this
- 34:26Speaker 1: is from Brent from Ingleside, Texas. He says about left
- 34:31Speaker 1: tackle Mark two and a flos l Adams, Tyron Smith too.
- 34:35Speaker 1: His first year left tackle was eighty six and he
- 34:38Speaker 1: had flows out and Tyro until two thousand and four.
- 34:40Speaker 1: That's almost forty years of pre dang good left tackle play.
- 34:44Speaker 1: And other than a couple of years of Phil pos Derek,
- 34:47Speaker 1: you had Pat Donovan and all Pro before that, Ralph
- 34:49Speaker 1: Neely another offer. They have a rich left tackle history. Yeah,
- 34:55Speaker 1: I was waiting for a question that is interesting. I
- 34:59Speaker 1: mean when you think of it from that standpoint, I
- 35:01Speaker 1: mean that you usually you usually have and that's a
- 35:05Speaker 1: big spot, you know, I mean, it certainly is. And
- 35:07Speaker 1: so you know they'll get another. They'll probably draft one.
- 35:11Speaker 1: They may draft one in the first round. And if
- 35:13Speaker 1: it just doesn't work out where they don't, they don't.
- 35:16Speaker 1: May they get a trade offer that's just too good
- 35:18Speaker 1: to pass up. Or maybe there's a player, you know,
- 35:21Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb type of player that you're just like, man,
- 35:23Speaker 1: this is yeah, we can reach on this left tackle.
- 35:26Speaker 1: And that's a question for you guys. Say they need
- 35:29Speaker 1: to get a starting left tackle and they're sitting here
- 35:32Speaker 1: at twenty you know, I guess they're at twenty four
- 35:36Speaker 1: and they're sitting there and they have an opportunity to
- 35:39Speaker 1: take a tackle that they have a second round great on.
- 35:42Speaker 1: He probably can come in and be a starter at
- 35:45Speaker 1: some point, or they can take this dynamic wide receiver
- 35:50Speaker 1: or cornerback that they have in their top twelve and
- 35:54Speaker 1: they think it's going to be an outstanding player. Well,
- 35:56Speaker 1: what would you do? You stick to the board or
- 35:58Speaker 1: do you go off off of knee? And so that's
- 36:02Speaker 1: that could happen. I mean, it probably will happen, especially
- 36:04Speaker 1: when you're looking at the way the draft is going
- 36:06Speaker 1: to be. I think they're going to have more needs
- 36:09Speaker 1: going into the draft than we've seen in a while.
- 36:12Speaker 1: And this is what it looks right now. I don't
- 36:13Speaker 1: see a lot of things changing here in the next
- 36:15Speaker 1: few weeks from free agent standpoint. So I unfortunately they
- 36:19Speaker 1: couldn't put as many band aids on these positions. I mean,
- 36:22Speaker 1: you don't have really a starting running back and you
- 36:25Speaker 1: don't have a center at least at least that you
- 36:28Speaker 1: had you know that you feel comfortable about. You know,
- 36:30Speaker 1: Rico Daddle obviously could can do it. Hoffman could do it,
- 36:33Speaker 1: but at what level. So all right, let's go to
- 36:35Speaker 1: the next caller is Wilson. He's in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
- 36:39Speaker 9: Wilson, Hey, Nick, how you doing.
- 36:43Speaker 1: I'd good?
- 36:44Speaker 9: Yeah, I just got off work. Sorry, I give you
- 36:47Speaker 9: a try. It was first time calling period and first
- 36:50Speaker 9: few rings and Chris answers, so that was kind of surprising.
- 36:53Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, yeah this is kind of a
- 36:56Speaker 1: different show. This is the show for first time callers.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Love it? What do you got? Will oh?
- 37:00Speaker 9: Nice?
- 37:00Speaker 1: All right?
- 37:01Speaker 9: Yeah, So first I just wanted to kind of mention
- 37:03Speaker 9: I've been a fan for a long time and the
- 37:06Speaker 9: first time I ever listened to dallascowboys dot com. I
- 37:08Speaker 9: remember I was on my desktop computer when I remember
- 37:11Speaker 9: Terrence Newman getting drafted and me just going to me
- 37:15Speaker 9: just going to the website and just hearing you guys
- 37:17Speaker 9: talk about it. I don't know if it was you,
- 37:18Speaker 9: I can't remember who it was back then, but.
- 37:19Speaker 1: I would hope, so, I mean I would hope that
- 37:22Speaker 1: I was doing that twenty one years ago. I can't
- 37:24Speaker 1: imagine that many people else doing it.
- 37:27Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, I was really excited. I was really
- 37:31Speaker 9: excited to like finally be able to like get in
- 37:34Speaker 9: touch with the Cowboys in that kind of a way
- 37:35Speaker 9: when I you know, discovered you guys on the internet.
- 37:38Speaker 9: So anyways, but yeah, I've been listening to you guys
- 37:40Speaker 9: ever since. I wanted to talk about Mike Zimmer real quick.
- 37:45Speaker 9: So typically when we hire like coordinators in general, just
- 37:48Speaker 9: every team in general, like, it's usually a present and
- 37:51Speaker 9: a future kind of a signing. But with him just
- 37:53Speaker 9: doing a one year deal, do you think he's going
- 37:56Speaker 9: to have kind of a different approach coaching the defense? Well,
- 37:58Speaker 9: he'd be do you think more aggressive? Well, he kind
- 38:01Speaker 9: of played this. I mean, I guess he's always kind
- 38:03Speaker 9: of been aggressive, But like I don't really know, Like
- 38:05Speaker 9: I don't really know what to expect out of a
- 38:08Speaker 9: coach who doesn't really know his future, you know what
- 38:10Speaker 9: I mean.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you were to play just a
- 38:14Speaker 1: regular game of checkers with Mike Zimmer right here in March,
- 38:18Speaker 1: I think he's going to try to win, I think
- 38:20Speaker 1: he's gonna slam it down and be like king me.
- 38:22Speaker 1: You know, I think he's I think he's like that,
- 38:25Speaker 1: and that's checkers. That don't mean anything. So I think
- 38:28Speaker 1: a one year deal, a ten year deal doesn't matter.
- 38:31Speaker 1: I think he's an aggressive coach that's going to try
- 38:33Speaker 1: to get after the quarterbacks ass That's what I believe
- 38:35Speaker 1: is going to happen. And so I think I really
- 38:38Speaker 1: don't think any of that stuff matters to him. He's
- 38:41Speaker 1: trying to get back in the NFL, trying to prove
- 38:43Speaker 1: he's had some you know, he's he had some personal
- 38:46Speaker 1: issues with his family. He's went through a lot of stuff.
- 38:49Speaker 1: I think he's back. It's all about football right now.
- 38:51Speaker 1: I don't think it mattered if the contract said five
- 38:54Speaker 1: years or one year or a month. I think he's
- 38:56Speaker 1: going to give you everything he's got. That's Zimmer. That's
- 38:58Speaker 1: who the guy he's always been, and so I don't
- 39:01Speaker 1: think that really matters in this case. The question is
- 39:03Speaker 1: not wrong for other people, but for Mike Zimmer and
- 39:07Speaker 1: how he's built. I think I don't think the length
- 39:11Speaker 1: of the contract matters. I think you're going to get
- 39:12Speaker 1: an aggressive play calling, defensive coach.
- 39:16Speaker 9: Great, And do you think he's going to use our
- 39:18Speaker 9: players kind of like how Quinn did with like UH
- 39:23Speaker 9: to each player's specialty, you know, like not trying to
- 39:26Speaker 9: change each players game up too much, doing what works
- 39:29Speaker 9: best for them what they're good at. Do you think
- 39:30Speaker 9: he's that type of coach as well.
- 39:32Speaker 1: I think he could be, but I think he's a
- 39:34Speaker 1: little bit more of a of a this is the system.
- 39:37Speaker 1: I mean, now now he's he's done some three four
- 39:40Speaker 1: four three, he's done that kind of stuff. I hope not.
- 39:44Speaker 1: I hope it's not. You know, I and I'll and
- 39:48Speaker 1: I'll say this. I think I think where you're going
- 39:49Speaker 1: to see a difference between Zimmer and dan Quinn is
- 39:54Speaker 1: at linebacker, okay, because he I think the type of
- 39:59Speaker 1: linebackers that we've seen that get passed over are the
- 40:02Speaker 1: ones maybe a little bit older. They've lost a step
- 40:05Speaker 1: or two. They're still good tackler, but they don't cover
- 40:09Speaker 1: the past as much. Well, that's what Kendricks is, that guy,
- 40:14Speaker 1: you know, and the Cowboys have kind of been looking
- 40:15Speaker 1: at safeties to play this role. They get excited about
- 40:18Speaker 1: linebackers that are undersized. On third and eight, they can
- 40:21Speaker 1: go cover the tight end, but the problem is on
- 40:23Speaker 1: first down they get blown up by the guard that
- 40:26Speaker 1: hits the second level. I don't think Eric Kendrick is
- 40:29Speaker 1: gonna get knocked off the ball a lot like that.
- 40:31Speaker 1: So that's the biggest difference that I see so far
- 40:34Speaker 1: without watching a practice is that the type of linebackers
- 40:38Speaker 1: that Zimmer likes in his scheme and Quinn and his
- 40:40Speaker 1: scheme is going to be a little bit different.
- 40:43Speaker 9: All right, Well hear it, thanks man, appreciate thanks.
- 40:45Speaker 1: For the call. Callback Again, we definitely want to hear
- 40:48Speaker 1: you from you and Virginia Beach, Virginia. A lot of
- 40:51Speaker 1: cowboy fans over there, for sure. A lot of cowboy
- 40:53Speaker 1: fans in Germany. Zach in Germany. What's up?
- 40:58Speaker 4: Hey?
- 40:59Speaker 1: Nick's going? Man? Good?
- 41:00Speaker 8: How are you good?
- 41:02Speaker 4: Good?
- 41:02Speaker 8: Sorry, I'm trying to call in past couple of days,
- 41:04Speaker 8: but my timing was off.
- 41:05Speaker 7: So that okay, Yeah, no problem, I should be saying.
- 41:11Speaker 8: It's exact from the practice squad. Didn't make the cut,
- 41:13Speaker 8: but we're still on the teams.
- 41:15Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's okay. You know, we need we need
- 41:18Speaker 1: uh we definitely, I mean, still got to have a
- 41:20Speaker 1: roster for sure. So with roster practice squad, and there's
- 41:24Speaker 1: always always next year, uh for sure. Now I did
- 41:28Speaker 1: put Reggie from Germany.
- 41:31Speaker 8: No, I got I gotta beat out Reggie now itself.
- 41:34Speaker 1: You know, I mean, And that's that's the thing, like
- 41:37Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't. I didn't actually have a
- 41:39Speaker 1: math formula to it. But I mean six calls from Germany,
- 41:43Speaker 1: you know that that equaled at least like ten to
- 41:46Speaker 1: twelve from you know, just regular calls. So I gave
- 41:51Speaker 1: a little more leeway to the people that called, you know, regularly,
- 41:54Speaker 1: you know, regular callers from out of the country. We have,
- 41:57Speaker 1: We've had two so.
- 42:00Speaker 8: Oh, okay, I'm not listening live unfortunately, so I usually
- 42:03Speaker 8: have to listen the following day. Actually, I guess we're
- 42:06Speaker 8: on this subject. Do you know how many callers you've
- 42:08Speaker 8: had from outside the country?
- 42:10Speaker 1: Yes, I do know, good, but but I don't have
- 42:15Speaker 1: the spreadsheet in front of me.
- 42:17Speaker 4: I don't, no worries.
- 42:18Speaker 1: I would guess outside of the different callers from outside
- 42:24Speaker 1: the country, I would guess fifteen to twenty.
- 42:29Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's different, good numbers.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe about twenty. Yeah.
- 42:34Speaker 8: So anyways, I'll try to keep I'll try to keep
- 42:37Speaker 8: on his toes.
- 42:38Speaker 1: Yeah problem. Yeah, he moves around, so you know he's
- 42:41Speaker 1: kind of tough. But uh, all right, what do you got, Zach?
- 42:45Speaker 8: Yeah, no problem. A couple of things. So the first
- 42:47Speaker 8: one is really when you look at the Free Agency
- 42:51Speaker 8: and the draft and building a team three sixty five process.
- 42:55Speaker 8: The I think the issue I have and many fans
- 42:58Speaker 8: have is sometimes the which the Cowboys take is almost
- 43:02Speaker 8: like not rostering or playing one element of your game right,
- 43:07Speaker 8: so you have an offensive defense in special teams if
- 43:09Speaker 8: we don't participate and try to truly try to get
- 43:12Speaker 8: better in free agency bringing in some guys and I
- 43:15Speaker 8: get this year cap things like that, but I mean
- 43:18Speaker 8: this is going a rhythm with the Cowboys where we
- 43:20Speaker 8: sit out in the first two leagues. We signed some
- 43:23Speaker 8: backup players and we draft well. But when you look
- 43:25Speaker 8: at other teams that are focused on bringing in free
- 43:30Speaker 8: agent talent, good free agent talent, those teams also have
- 43:33Speaker 8: draft picks just like us. And what's happened, I think
- 43:36Speaker 8: is in some instances when we don't address free agency
- 43:40Speaker 8: properly and maybe bring in a big name here and there,
- 43:44Speaker 8: you go into the draft and now you're going to
- 43:45Speaker 8: pigeonhole yourself. And I'll use this year's draft our offensive line.
- 43:49Speaker 8: Two key positions, probably the two most important positions on
- 43:52Speaker 8: the offensive line. Your center and your left tackle are
- 43:55Speaker 8: both needs. And now what's going to happen since we
- 43:58Speaker 8: picked later, we tend to pick. We're between pick eighteen
- 44:01Speaker 8: and the back half. You know you're gonna have teams
- 44:04Speaker 8: that are gonna jump in front of us because they
- 44:06Speaker 8: know Cowboys have to take these one or two positions.
- 44:09Speaker 8: Last year, happened with Dalton Kincaid. It's happened in the
- 44:12Speaker 8: past where teams will jump in front of us because
- 44:14Speaker 8: they know, ay, the Cowboys have to go after this pick.
- 44:17Speaker 8: So I wanted to hear your response on that before
- 44:19Speaker 8: I hang up. One one other comment since the draft season,
- 44:24Speaker 8: do you have any former draft draft picks that you
- 44:29Speaker 8: wish the Cowboys made? So, for example, I'll use obviously
- 44:33Speaker 8: everybody was gonna use Taco and TJ.
- 44:34Speaker 4: Watt. That's a big one.
- 44:35Speaker 8: But way back in the day, instead of taking Julius
- 44:38Speaker 8: Julius Jones, I wish we would have taken Stephen Jackson.
- 44:40Speaker 8: See what your thoughts are and I'll hang up with us.
- 44:44Speaker 1: Was Steven, Yeah, Stephen Jackson. That was two thousand and four.
- 44:51Speaker 1: You know the thing about that is that pick by
- 44:53Speaker 1: not taking a pick right there they took they got
- 44:58Speaker 1: another pick in the two thousand and five they taking
- 45:00Speaker 1: Marcus Spears with that second pick there. Yeah, I mean
- 45:06Speaker 1: you could go go on and on. I mean, I
- 45:09Speaker 1: definitely remember wanting them to take Devin Hester. I I
- 45:15Speaker 1: was thinking that that would be a difference maker type pick.
- 45:17Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly the player that they took instead.
- 45:20Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm wrong sometimes too, because I
- 45:23Speaker 1: did not like the DeMarcus war pick. I thought Derek
- 45:26Speaker 1: Johnson would have been a way better pick. He was
- 45:28Speaker 1: a linebacker at Texas. He had a decent career. I
- 45:32Speaker 1: think he had some injuries, and he's not in Hall
- 45:34Speaker 1: of Fame. I know that, And so you know, that's
- 45:38Speaker 1: maybe one of the first times I realized that, you know,
- 45:40Speaker 1: let me just kind of talk about it and lets
- 45:42Speaker 1: y'all y'all do the drafting, you know now. I I
- 45:46Speaker 1: definitely remember the day before the draft saying the guy
- 45:49Speaker 1: I would take, I would not take one of these corners.
- 45:51Speaker 1: I would take Mikeah Parsons. I said that. I definitely
- 45:56Speaker 1: thought Michael Parsons would have was the best player to
- 45:58Speaker 1: take at the eighth pick. I think that's where they were,
- 46:02Speaker 1: or they were the tenth pick. The move to twelfth.
- 46:06Speaker 1: So you know, sometimes you just have a feel for it,
- 46:08Speaker 1: and you have a feel for you know, what you know,
- 46:10Speaker 1: and sometimes just by looking at the tape. You know,
- 46:13Speaker 1: we watch YouTube highlights. You don't always see the bad tape.
- 46:15Speaker 1: You just see the tape. So you know, it's tough
- 46:18Speaker 1: that these guys that are great in these players, they've
- 46:20Speaker 1: done it for two years now. You know, they've looked
- 46:22Speaker 1: at them sophomore, junior, you know, if senior, if they
- 46:25Speaker 1: go into the senior year. So they've been looking at
- 46:27Speaker 1: them for two or three years. They have a much
- 46:29Speaker 1: better idea than any of us that just watch a
- 46:31Speaker 1: few highlights here and there. And as for the approach,
- 46:35Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is. I mean, like
- 46:38Speaker 1: you know this this this approach is. You know, the
- 46:42Speaker 1: Cowboys have a lot of good players. They've drafted well,
- 46:44Speaker 1: they're good players. They demand a lot of money, and
- 46:47Speaker 1: that's kind of been there. What they do is they
- 46:50Speaker 1: re sign their own guys and they try to keep
- 46:53Speaker 1: you know, facilitating the roster by drafting other good players.
- 46:57Speaker 1: I think that if you're going to have a lot
- 46:58Speaker 1: of money in free agency, you know you're you're probably
- 47:02Speaker 1: missing on a lot more of these draft picks than
- 47:05Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have. And that's that's the issue.
- 47:07Speaker 1: The Cowboys are drafting, well, uh, they didn't so much
- 47:11Speaker 1: last year, but they have in the last fifteen years,
- 47:14Speaker 1: and so that's kind of when they get the free agency,
- 47:16Speaker 1: they're like, what, we don't We don't want to overpay
- 47:20Speaker 1: for this guy that you don't even want either, So
- 47:23Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing it through the draft. And so
- 47:25Speaker 1: it's just that month of March that frustrates the fans
- 47:27Speaker 1: because it looks like they're not doing anything but signing
- 47:29Speaker 1: their own guys. And you know, that's that's the way
- 47:32Speaker 1: it is, all right. I think we are out of callers.
- 47:38Speaker 1: Phone line is open at the time right now. Eight
- 47:42Speaker 1: A eight eight five five two to nine seven. And
- 47:45Speaker 1: I think I've read all of my questions as well, Chris,
- 47:49Speaker 1: are you with me? I am open line right now. Yes,
- 47:55Speaker 1: it's been one of those days, man, it's been one
- 47:57Speaker 1: of those, like two days. I think back in the
- 48:00Speaker 1: back back there, just trying to piece all this together.
- 48:04Speaker 1: So but if Jeff.
- 48:06Speaker 3: Organ had a question, and do you want to take
- 48:07Speaker 3: that one?
- 48:08Speaker 1: He was in between Okay, yeah, there that one there
- 48:11Speaker 1: it is Jeff and Oregon text question. Yeah, kind of
- 48:14Speaker 1: got sandwiched in between these other two big questions all right. Uh,
- 48:18Speaker 1: actually no, I don't want.
- 48:19Speaker 3: To take you don't want to take that one, Okay,
- 48:21Speaker 3: I just want to make sure.
- 48:24Speaker 1: Oh man, that's.
- 48:25Speaker 3: Like everybody wants to do that.
- 48:26Speaker 1: I know.
- 48:27Speaker 3: I think it's a dumb idea.
- 48:29Speaker 1: Okay, that's what Chris's opinion is. Stuff they should trade.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Micah parsons, we need the draft capital. It would get
- 48:37Speaker 1: us a real It would get us a real defensive
- 48:40Speaker 1: end and much more this year and next. What do
- 48:42Speaker 1: you think, okay, was this? It would get us a
- 48:46Speaker 1: real defensive end. I mean, what do you what do
- 48:48Speaker 1: you want? Like a real like like Dante Fowler. You
- 48:51Speaker 1: want like a real defensive end, you know, or an
- 48:54Speaker 1: Armstrong or even a Sam Williams if there's that. I mean,
- 48:57Speaker 1: like you don't like this hybrid. Maybe he's the linebacker,
- 49:00Speaker 1: maybe part time linebacker, part time in always a badass,
- 49:05Speaker 1: you know, Like I mean, I don't know about that, okay.
- 49:09Speaker 1: But from a business standpoint, you know, guys get traded.
- 49:12Speaker 1: I mean, Khalil Mack got traded a couple of years ago.
- 49:14Speaker 1: He got a lot for him. I mean, guys get
- 49:17Speaker 1: traded for a lot of picks. And that's what the
- 49:20Speaker 1: Cowboys have to decide if that's if that's the most
- 49:23Speaker 1: important thing to get draft capital to not have to
- 49:27Speaker 1: pay that big contract. See that's that right there, goes
- 49:30Speaker 1: back to the caller before that says, why don't we
- 49:35Speaker 1: have money in free agency? You know they're drafting too.
- 49:38Speaker 1: What the problem is is that it's not really a problem.
- 49:41Speaker 1: It's just a strategy. Some people are getting rid of
- 49:46Speaker 1: certain players before they have to really pay them. They
- 49:49Speaker 1: don't want those big contracts. They don't want to have
- 49:52Speaker 1: to give out that kind of you know, actual money.
- 49:55Speaker 1: And that's not Ben Jerry's approach. Jerry thinks if he's
- 50:00Speaker 1: got a guy like Micah Parsons, you need to keep him.
- 50:03Speaker 1: And uh so that's why I don't see him being traded.
- 50:05Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't remember the last time
- 50:08Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever really done that. I mean, you can
- 50:10Speaker 1: make the case, you can make the case for Mari Cooper,
- 50:13Speaker 1: but Mari was not really young. I mean, he was
- 50:17Speaker 1: still kind of in the middle of his career. And
- 50:19Speaker 1: and you know that was one that and they didn't
- 50:22Speaker 1: get a lot for him either. I got a fifth
- 50:24Speaker 1: round pick. So but you know, as far as trading
- 50:27Speaker 1: someone early before a really big contract like that, basically
- 50:31Speaker 1: just giving up on him. And you know, I don't
- 50:34Speaker 1: I don't think that way. I mean, you don't usually
- 50:38Speaker 1: go into the NFL and just dominate, you know, that
- 50:42Speaker 1: just doesn't really happen. You don't see a lot of
- 50:44Speaker 1: first team All pro as a rookie. What you do
- 50:49Speaker 1: see a lot of are guys at any level, at
- 50:53Speaker 1: any sport, at any job, that come into their profession
- 50:58Speaker 1: at twenty one or twenty two, twenty three and they
- 51:00Speaker 1: think they've got it all figured out. You know, they're
- 51:03Speaker 1: they're good, and they know it and they've got it
- 51:05Speaker 1: figured out, and they get humbled a little bit and
- 51:08Speaker 1: they kind of understand, you know, how to act with
- 51:11Speaker 1: around others and how to sort of grow up a
- 51:13Speaker 1: little bit and and and there's a way to do
- 51:16Speaker 1: this and do it well and also get along with everyone.
- 51:19Speaker 1: That happens a lot in a lot of different jobs,
- 51:22Speaker 1: in a lot of different areas and spaces. And so
- 51:26Speaker 1: if you take the player that can dominate early and
- 51:30Speaker 1: also the fact of maybe a guy that's going to
- 51:33Speaker 1: grow up a little bit more, what kind of combination
- 51:36Speaker 1: could you have there? And so what I'm really getting
- 51:39Speaker 1: at here is that it's a lot. I think it's
- 51:43Speaker 1: it's a lot more common to have a player that
- 51:45Speaker 1: grows up right in front of you and can and
- 51:48Speaker 1: can maybe not be as annoying as he is to
- 51:50Speaker 1: certain fans. It's easier to find that person and for
- 51:54Speaker 1: that to happen than to draft a guy that's dominating
- 51:57Speaker 1: the NFL in year one. So you want your draft capital, sure,
- 52:03Speaker 1: trade him for draft capital to try to duplicate that
- 52:06Speaker 1: as well. I don't think Michael Parsons is a lost cause.
- 52:10Speaker 1: I think his mentality is one where you know, he's
- 52:14Speaker 1: he's arrogant. He's very confident in what he can do,
- 52:16Speaker 1: and he should be. He's been really good from the start.
- 52:19Speaker 1: I think he'll continue to grow in that area. Coupled
- 52:22Speaker 1: with the fact that I think he'll he'll grow as
- 52:24Speaker 1: a player as well, I'd rather have that guy for sure.
- 52:27Speaker 3: So all right, Oh, by the way, for your Devin
- 52:30Speaker 3: Hester question, Yeah, Cowboys picked Anthony and Fazano three picks
- 52:35Speaker 3: ahead of him tight end. Yeah, that was the Bobby
- 52:39Speaker 3: Carpenter draft two thousand and six. Yeah, so Carpenter in
- 52:43Speaker 3: the first round, Fessano in the second, and then Hester
- 52:47Speaker 3: went fifty seventh overall. I think fifty seventh over all
- 52:53Speaker 3: to Chicago Cowboys. Fifty three got Fessano, tight end out.
- 53:00Speaker 1: That's not gonna That wasn't gonna happen for a couple
- 53:02Speaker 1: of reasons. Yeah, it's easy to look back at this
- 53:05Speaker 1: now and be like, yeah, Hester, you know, a gold
- 53:09Speaker 1: jacket guy. Bill Parcells is not gonna draft Devin Hester
- 53:15Speaker 1: as a kick returner in the second round of a draft,
- 53:19Speaker 1: especially when he can take Anthony Fasano. And he probably
- 53:24Speaker 1: misspelled his name and spelled it Bivarro because that's what
- 53:28Speaker 1: he was hoping he was gonna get was a tight
- 53:31Speaker 1: end named Mark Bavarro who he had and was awesome
- 53:34Speaker 1: for him with the Giants, And he probably was just
- 53:37Speaker 1: and truth be told, and I know this, he was
- 53:40Speaker 1: hoping that Bobby Carpenter was his dad, Rob Carpenter, you know,
- 53:44Speaker 1: and he compared that that way. It was funny because
- 53:48Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, as the head coach for ten years, was like,
- 53:51Speaker 1: I don't compare players, you know, we don't compare players.
- 53:54Speaker 1: I don't compare anything, never compare the player. Well, he's
- 53:57Speaker 1: this guy sort of like him. He's like, I don't
- 53:58Speaker 1: compare players. Ourselves compared to everyone. He was like, that
- 54:03Speaker 1: guy is going to be like this guy, and you know,
- 54:06Speaker 1: until the media did it. And then when the media
- 54:09Speaker 1: did it and they said, you think DeMarcus Ware is
- 54:12Speaker 1: like Lawrence Taylor, He's like listen, Fellas, listen, No, no,
- 54:16Speaker 1: he's not. Now, let's just put him in Canton right now. Well,
- 54:19Speaker 1: we didn't put him in Canton right then, but when
- 54:21Speaker 1: now and fifteen years later they did, so it looked
- 54:23Speaker 1: like it was a good, good pick.
- 54:25Speaker 3: The funny thing about that that draft, by the way,
- 54:27Speaker 3: nick I went back down Cowboys picks in the fourth
- 54:30Speaker 3: round one twenty five overall Skyler Green, Skyler, You're right,
- 54:35Speaker 3: Skyler Green, and draft they wanted him to be like
- 54:40Speaker 3: returner Yep, yep, Skyler Green, lsu yes, right.
- 54:46Speaker 4: And he was small.
- 54:47Speaker 1: I remember him.
- 54:48Speaker 3: He was tiny.
- 54:48Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't remember him actually making the team, but
- 54:52Speaker 1: I mean I think he did. He might have made
- 54:55Speaker 1: the team, but he really didn't contribute much at all.
- 54:57Speaker 1: So yeah, that six draft is not going to win
- 54:59Speaker 1: a war. It's for the best one. This is Parcell's
- 55:02Speaker 1: last draft. Carpenter Fossano, Jason Hatcher, Skyler Green, Pat Watkins,
- 55:07Speaker 1: Montavious Stanley, Pat mcchust. I mean, I mean Jason Hatcher
- 55:13Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl. That's about. That's about it though,
- 55:17Speaker 1: from that six draft. So that was that was Bill's
- 55:19Speaker 1: last one. The followed up. You know, we did a
- 55:21Speaker 1: documentary on the five class. We will not be doing
- 55:25Speaker 1: one on the six class. I could just tell you
- 55:27Speaker 1: that right now.
- 55:28Speaker 3: And by the way, the Derrek Ross situation where you're
- 55:30Speaker 3: talking about earlier two years, it was he was here
- 55:34Speaker 3: for two years. The Wikipedia is funny. It says he
- 55:38Speaker 3: was released after he missed a team session and a
- 55:43Speaker 3: mandatory charity related hospital visit.
- 55:47Speaker 1: M That's what I said, Yeah, don't be missing the
- 55:49Speaker 1: hospital visits and then you'll be doing that.
- 55:52Speaker 3: The New Orleans claimed him like a year later off
- 55:55Speaker 3: waivers after a Landa released him, and he was he
- 55:59Speaker 3: was The wave was pulled the next day because he
- 56:02Speaker 3: missed the flight to New Orleans.
- 56:05Speaker 1: M okay, I mean, I think there's been a lot
- 56:09Speaker 1: of people missing their flight out of New Orleans. I
- 56:12Speaker 1: was gonna say, you miss it, yeah, usually usually you'll
- 56:16Speaker 1: drive yourself to New Orleans, but yeah, you don't miss
- 56:19Speaker 1: it going out. Yeah, all right, I see a theme
- 56:22Speaker 1: happening there with Derrick Ross's career, you know, missing he
- 56:25Speaker 1: was missing some things, but talented player and he went
- 56:29Speaker 1: and drafted in the third round. He was a really
- 56:32Speaker 1: good player at Ohio State. I think they won the
- 56:34Speaker 1: national championship the year before. They were always competing for it.
- 56:39Speaker 1: So a really great player on that team. For him
- 56:42Speaker 1: to go in the third round, there was obviously some
- 56:44Speaker 1: character issues or any kind of concerns and they ended
- 56:48Speaker 1: up kind of playing out in his career. So but yeah,
- 56:51Speaker 1: I love the blast from the past guys like that.
- 56:54Speaker 1: So all right, well, this has been a this has
- 56:57Speaker 1: been a show for for sure. We've had to piece
- 57:00Speaker 1: this one together. Appreciate the fans calling in. It will
- 57:04Speaker 1: definitely you'll you'll be definitely be seeing it on the
- 57:08Speaker 1: on all of our platforms later on today. So I
- 57:11Speaker 1: want to thank Chris being for doing a lot of
- 57:13Speaker 1: work to kind of get this happen. Will be hopefully
- 57:16Speaker 1: back to normal next Tuesday, and we'll have a live
- 57:20Speaker 1: show next Tuesday for sure. So for Chris, I'm Nick Eatman.
- 57:23Speaker 1: We'll see next week on Cowboys Storyline.
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