Latest / The Breakfast Club / EXCLUSIVE: Salt of Salt N Pepa provides clarity to Loren LoRosa following The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction + Wendy Williams does NOT have dementia?
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- 0:02Speaker 1: George.
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- 0:04Speaker 2: and everybody.
- 0:06Speaker 1: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
- 0:07Speaker 1: Lauren can't even Hey, y'all, what's up.
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- 0:21Speaker 2: Now, on today's episode, we have Dun Dunda Dunn. Could
- 0:26Speaker 2: y'all be loving to Wendy Williams updates? We have a
- 0:29Speaker 2: Wendy Williams update. It's not an exclusive, but you guys
- 0:32Speaker 2: know where there is a story I will find an
- 0:35Speaker 2: angle in exclusively.
- 0:37Speaker 1: So this story actually comes from TMZ.
- 0:41Speaker 2: TMZ just broke a story that Wendy Williams has tested
- 0:44Speaker 2: uh with neurologists who say that she does not have
- 0:48Speaker 2: the frontal temporal dementia that has been the reason why
- 0:52Speaker 2: she has had to stay in this guardianship that she
- 0:55Speaker 2: says has her locked up in a luxury prison, which
- 0:59Speaker 2: is you know what she calls the facility where she lives,
- 1:03Speaker 2: where you know she's not able to you know, go
- 1:05Speaker 2: downstairs by on her own she doesn't have a phone
- 1:08Speaker 2: to call out.
- 1:09Speaker 1: You know, she doesn't live a normal life.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Now, Wendy has always said, even in talking to me
- 1:14Speaker 2: earlier on about these things, that one of the things
- 1:18Speaker 2: that bothers her the most is that, you know, knowingly,
- 1:22Speaker 2: when all of this conservativeship conversation started, she knew she
- 1:26Speaker 2: needed some help. She knew she needed help management the money,
- 1:28Speaker 2: figuring out certain things. You know, there was addiction she
- 1:31Speaker 2: was battling, but this was not the situation she wanted
- 1:35Speaker 2: to end up in, and at this point she stuck.
- 1:42Speaker 2: So the significance of this testing is, I mean, it's everything.
- 1:45Speaker 2: It's it's huge if a judge looks at this the
- 1:48Speaker 2: right way, and we're going to get into it. So,
- 1:51Speaker 2: according to reports, Wendy Wims underwent a ton of tests
- 1:55Speaker 2: in New York City recently with neurologists to check out
- 1:59Speaker 2: her brain, the functioning, the you know, her cognitive thinking
- 2:03Speaker 2: and decision making and all of the things. Right after
- 2:07Speaker 2: she completed these tests that neurologists last month, then gave
- 2:12Speaker 2: the test to her legal team. Her legal team took
- 2:15Speaker 2: look at the tests and they're like, okay, now we're
- 2:17Speaker 2: going to use these to submit these to the judge,
- 2:20Speaker 2: and we're going to use these to ask the judge
- 2:22Speaker 2: to release her from the Conservativeship. Now, these tests don't
- 2:26Speaker 2: just come out of the blue. People have been trying
- 2:28Speaker 2: to figure out what's going on with Windy Williams. We've
- 2:30Speaker 2: seen her, you know, run around. I know, I saw
- 2:32Speaker 2: her in the New Yorker magazine and she was out
- 2:34Speaker 2: at fashion Week, and she's been doing dinners and you
- 2:37Speaker 2: know all the things.
- 2:38Speaker 1: She's had a bit more of a social life.
- 2:41Speaker 2: But we kind of lost track on what the conversation
- 2:45Speaker 2: was around her health and her conservatorship because we haven't
- 2:48Speaker 2: been getting regular updates from her, to be honest with you,
- 2:51Speaker 2: but a while back, Joe Takapina told you know, me
- 2:56Speaker 2: as her personal attorney, that their plan was to do
- 2:59Speaker 2: their own personal testing. Now, this came around the time
- 3:03Speaker 2: her conservatives Sabrina back in February, had requested new medical
- 3:08Speaker 2: testing because Wendy Williams, you know, was claiming she's in
- 3:12Speaker 2: this conservativeship, decisions are being made for her. This lawsuit
- 3:15Speaker 2: is happening, and she doesn't want it to happen, so
- 3:18Speaker 2: they put a pause on everything. They put a pause
- 3:20Speaker 2: on when I say this lawsuit. They put a pause
- 3:22Speaker 2: on the A and the A and E lawsuit with
- 3:24Speaker 2: lifetime for the whereas Wendy Williams doc and a ton
- 3:29Speaker 2: of things. They said, there's a lot happening. Her family
- 3:31Speaker 2: went oute of this conservativeship. If she's able to make
- 3:33Speaker 2: the decision, we don't want to do anything as conservators
- 3:37Speaker 2: that will go against what she would want.
- 3:39Speaker 1: To actually do.
- 3:41Speaker 2: So the Conservatives said, hold on, wait a minute, let's
- 3:43Speaker 2: get some additional testing done.
- 3:45Speaker 1: That was back in February twenty twenty five.
- 3:47Speaker 2: The testing came back according to the conservator, and I
- 3:50Speaker 2: remember Wendy Williams. You know, Attorney Joe Tecapino was pissed
- 3:56Speaker 2: when I called him and I saw those test results,
- 3:58Speaker 2: and he was upset because he said that when these
- 4:00Speaker 2: hippolaws have been violated, test results should not.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Have been leaked to any media, to any press.
- 4:06Speaker 2: But those test results stated that according to the testing
- 4:10Speaker 2: that Wendy's conservator had requested, Wendy Williams tested positive for
- 4:15Speaker 2: the frontal temporal dementia. During that time, Joe Tacopina said
- 4:19Speaker 2: that they were going to and he's always actually been
- 4:20Speaker 2: saying this, but he tripled down on it during that
- 4:23Speaker 2: time when I spoke to him saying that they were
- 4:25Speaker 2: going to get their own independent testing done because they
- 4:29Speaker 2: wanted to rely on doctors that they felt like they
- 4:32Speaker 2: could trust, but also just doctors that would be more neutral.
- 4:35Speaker 2: They didn't want anyone appointed by the judge. Here we
- 4:38Speaker 2: have it now, the testing is done. Now the plan
- 4:40Speaker 2: is for the testing to go to the judge, as
- 4:42Speaker 2: I mentioned, And once the testing goes to the judge,
- 4:44Speaker 2: what Joe Tacopina is like praying happens is that the
- 4:49Speaker 2: judge is like, Okay, we see the testing, We're going
- 4:52Speaker 2: to release her. But if that does not happen, Joe
- 4:56Speaker 2: Techapina says that he plans to request a trial by
- 4:59Speaker 2: jury and allow because he wants to allow drurors to
- 5:01Speaker 2: be able to see Wendy, hear the back and forth
- 5:04Speaker 2: from both sides, and be able to make a decision.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Now here's my thing, And again, I haven't this story
- 5:09Speaker 2: like you guys are literally in the latest just Broke
- 5:13Speaker 2: momentary moments ago, so I'll be doing a follow up.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Here are the latest with Lauren the roads of the
- 5:18Speaker 2: podcast for all my low riders, and of course on
- 5:20Speaker 2: the Breakfast club because I plan to call you a tecopina.
- 5:23Speaker 2: I plan to call Sabrina Morrissey, who is Wendy Williams
- 5:26Speaker 2: guardian her attorneys as well, and have a conversation about
- 5:31Speaker 2: what will happen next, because what I'm predicting is that
- 5:34Speaker 2: a judge is going to look at both test results
- 5:36Speaker 2: and kind of be stuck because you have one neurologist
- 5:39Speaker 2: and you know, hospital, saying one thing indefinitely, and then
- 5:43Speaker 2: you have a team of other neurologists saying another thing indefinitely.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Where does that leave us? Where does the judge go
- 5:49Speaker 2: from here? In that instance? So I'll come back with
- 5:53Speaker 2: some answers for you guys. Of course, y'all know, Okay,
- 5:56Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back with the answers for you guys.
- 5:58Speaker 3: You know.
- 5:59Speaker 2: But this is it's a bit of an update. I
- 6:01Speaker 2: think that this gives Wendy Williams team some hope. I
- 6:04Speaker 2: don't know though, just as a person who's been following
- 6:06Speaker 2: this and reporting this if in reading this.
- 6:10Speaker 1: I got much hope.
- 6:11Speaker 2: And the reason why I say that is because again,
- 6:14Speaker 2: you have very sound, prestigious doctors on both sides saying
- 6:19Speaker 2: two very different things. I think worst case scenario that
- 6:23Speaker 2: trial by jury would honestly be a better bet because
- 6:28Speaker 2: I'm assuming at that point there will be experts that
- 6:30Speaker 2: take the sand. The jury themselves will get to see
- 6:33Speaker 2: and hear from Wendy over of course the time, and
- 6:35Speaker 2: be able to make a decision themselves. Now in other news,
- 6:46Speaker 2: so the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame went down
- 6:49Speaker 2: last weekend in LA at the Peacock Theater and two
- 6:54Speaker 2: groups legendary groups a shoutout that got inducted in the
- 6:57Speaker 2: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twenty twenty five, Salt
- 7:00Speaker 2: and Peppa and Outcasts. Now Salt and Peppa once because
- 7:04Speaker 2: both groups once they were inducted, and you had people
- 7:07Speaker 2: who brought them out or who opened up their induction piece.
- 7:11Speaker 2: So for Salt n Peppa, Missy Elliott came on and
- 7:14Speaker 2: she spoke a bit about just their influence and impact.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Let's take a listen, Salt, Peppa, Spenderella, y'all are one
- 7:22Speaker 4: of the greatest teachers in hip hop. I think y'all
- 7:26Speaker 4: for teaching me that life is all about expression. You
- 7:32Speaker 4: only live once and you're not coming back.
- 7:37Speaker 1: So expressed yourself, Yale.
- 7:40Speaker 2: And then Salt and Peppa and DJ Spinderella came out,
- 7:43Speaker 2: they also spoke. There were performances as well which they
- 7:46Speaker 2: participated in. Herbie Lovebuck, who is you know, their famed
- 7:49Speaker 2: manager and you Know all the things, was also there
- 7:52Speaker 2: with them as well too. But SAWT spoke and spoke
- 7:56Speaker 2: out again against Universal Music Group, who they are currently
- 7:59Speaker 2: in a very high stake legal battle against trying to
- 8:02Speaker 2: own the rights to their music.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Let's say listen, when.
- 8:05Speaker 3: We came up, the industry was different. We didn't have streaming,
- 8:09Speaker 3: we didn't have social media. We had cassette tapes, turntables
- 8:13Speaker 3: and dreams. But even back then, we had to fight
- 8:19Speaker 3: to be heard and to prove our worth. We're in
- 8:22Speaker 3: a fight right now for our masters that rightfully belonged
- 8:25Speaker 3: to us after forty years. As we celebrate this moment,
- 8:31Speaker 3: fans can't even stream our music. It's been taken down
- 8:34Speaker 3: from all streaming platforms because the industry still doesn't want
- 8:38Speaker 3: to play fair.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 8:43Speaker 3: Salt and Peppa have never been afraid of a fight.
- 8:47Speaker 3: This is the Influence Award. We have to keep using
- 8:50Speaker 3: our influence until the industry honors creativity the way the
- 8:54Speaker 3: audience does with love, respect and fairness.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Issue here that you know Salt and Pepper are claiming,
- 9:02Speaker 2: is that there's a law that basically says, after a
- 9:05Speaker 2: certain amount of years, you can go back and request
- 9:07Speaker 2: to own the right to certain, you know, works that
- 9:09Speaker 2: you've done. And they've done and completed everything they're supposed
- 9:12Speaker 2: to do and went back to do that, and the
- 9:14Speaker 2: record label was telling them no. Now, during her speech,
- 9:17Speaker 2: you guys heard her say that there's still music not
- 9:21Speaker 2: available across streaming platforms, because that is what was happening
- 9:26Speaker 2: in the early stages of the lawsuit.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Still it's happening.
- 9:30Speaker 2: But when I did this story on the Breakfast Club
- 9:32Speaker 2: and naturally even online when this speech aired, people have questions.
- 9:37Speaker 2: There are a lot of people who were asking, hey,
- 9:40Speaker 2: we can listen to these songs, So does that mean
- 9:43Speaker 2: the lawsuit is over? So I reached out to Salt
- 9:47Speaker 2: of Salt and Pepper, and her attorney sent a statement
- 9:51Speaker 2: clarifying that these songs are not still available in a
- 9:55Speaker 2: way that would allow Salt and Pepper and Spinderella to
- 9:58Speaker 2: be benefiting off of this music.
- 10:00Speaker 1: So the attorney.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Statement says, our first three official albums, Hot Cool and
- 10:05Speaker 2: Vicious Assault with the Deadly Pepper and Black's magic, and
- 10:10Speaker 2: the master recordings contained on them were pulled off streaming
- 10:13Speaker 2: in social media in the US, as those are the
- 10:15Speaker 2: master recordings that reverted she's talking about that would have
- 10:18Speaker 2: reverted back to them after I believe it's a thirty
- 10:20Speaker 2: five year mark. Then they continue the albums very necessary
- 10:25Speaker 2: and brand new, and the masters embodied on the albums
- 10:29Speaker 2: are still available because they don't qualify for termination rights
- 10:32Speaker 2: yet based off of copyright law, and she quotes a
- 10:35Speaker 2: law from like nineteen sixty seven, which is that law
- 10:38Speaker 2: that I mentioned that after thirty five years of the
- 10:40Speaker 2: release of the applical album Slash Masters, certain things revert
- 10:43Speaker 2: back to the artists. She says, it's all about when
- 10:47Speaker 2: the recording was released, So any remaster recordings from the
- 10:50Speaker 2: first three albums that were released later weren't necessarily pulled
- 10:54Speaker 2: down as they aren't subject to termination rights yet, but.
- 10:57Speaker 1: They will all be soon.
- 10:59Speaker 2: So there is certain music that you can go on
- 11:01Speaker 2: and listen, and according to Salt and their attorney, it's
- 11:04Speaker 2: because they're not up for termination rights, which means that
- 11:08Speaker 2: it would be terminated from. According to Salt and her attorney,
- 11:11Speaker 2: it'd be terminated from whichever contract and then reverted back
- 11:14Speaker 2: to the artists. But they're claiming, and they're a legend
- 11:17Speaker 2: that the minute that they do hit that timeline, we're
- 11:20Speaker 2: going to see a label allegedly pull them from streaming platforms.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Then it continues regardless.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Universal Music Group is not even licensing or promoting any
- 11:30Speaker 2: of our music, even songs from very necessary and brand
- 11:33Speaker 2: new that aren't yet up for revision. And what I
- 11:35Speaker 2: also realized too, because when I said it in a
- 11:38Speaker 2: room on the Breakfast Club, I didn't even say I'm sorry.
- 11:39Speaker 2: I mus Salt said it in her speech instantly in
- 11:42Speaker 2: the room on the Breakfast Club. And again this is
- 11:44Speaker 2: also to what I saw people go to do on
- 11:46Speaker 2: social People went to go try and find the music.
- 11:50Speaker 2: And you are able to listen to certain songs like
- 11:52Speaker 2: I know, certain songs like Shoop or let's talk about Sex.
- 11:58Speaker 2: You can listen to those songs, but they're either on
- 12:03Speaker 2: mixes that don't come from the original albums, or they're
- 12:08Speaker 2: all like best of They're all like best of projects
- 12:12Speaker 2: which were put together and again don't come from the
- 12:14Speaker 2: original albums, which is what she's basically trying to say.
- 12:16Speaker 1: So wanted to clear that up there a little bit
- 12:18Speaker 1: for people.
- 12:18Speaker 2: I hope that cleared that up for you guys a
- 12:20Speaker 2: bit right from the words of Salt of Salt and Peppa,
- 12:23Speaker 2: because basically, this battle is still very real and very
- 12:26Speaker 2: prevalent for them. It is at the front of their
- 12:29Speaker 2: focus from what I've been told. And another thing that
- 12:32Speaker 2: was mentioned to me in this conversation as well was
- 12:34Speaker 2: just like, you know, people quickly instantly say, why didn't
- 12:38Speaker 2: they read their contract? And what they're fighting for is
- 12:42Speaker 2: not a fix because they didn't read their contract. They're fighting,
- 12:45Speaker 2: according to Salt and Pepper, Salt Peppa, they're fighting for
- 12:50Speaker 2: what their contract said. They're alleging that the contract tells
- 12:53Speaker 2: some things revert at a certain time. Universal Music Group
- 12:56Speaker 2: is alleging that that is not true, and that Versus
- 13:00Speaker 2: Music Group, however, is countering their claims. So there, you know,
- 13:04Speaker 2: there's this whole back and forth, and I think it's
- 13:06Speaker 2: so unfortunate you get to a point in your career
- 13:09Speaker 2: if you're a Salt and Pepper where your music has
- 13:11Speaker 2: influenced so many different so many different generations, so many
- 13:14Speaker 2: different people. You're being honored at the you know, rock
- 13:18Speaker 2: and Roll Hall of Fame amongst greats and rightfully, so
- 13:24Speaker 2: you use it as a moment to call out what
- 13:26Speaker 2: you believe is the injustice that is, you know, allegedly
- 13:28Speaker 2: happening to you and your bandmates, to your groupmates. But
- 13:32Speaker 2: how unfortunate is that I saw reports about various outcasts
- 13:38Speaker 2: music and you know, songs and albums, the streams skyrocketing
- 13:44Speaker 2: because of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame you
- 13:46Speaker 2: know ceremony, and the amount of people that were watching
- 13:49Speaker 2: that ceremony that then went to go listen to the
- 13:51Speaker 2: music and certain things you're not able to do when
- 13:54Speaker 2: it comes to salt and pepperda is so unfortunate. Hate
- 13:57Speaker 2: to see. I hope they figured that out. I really
- 13:59Speaker 2: hope they figure that out. I hope that whatever and
- 14:02Speaker 2: justice you know, that they believe has been done to
- 14:04Speaker 2: them is right, is written right in the book of
- 14:07Speaker 2: all things, you know, music, because they deserve it. They've
- 14:11Speaker 2: worked hard, they've carved a and they've been through a
- 14:13Speaker 2: lot to get here as well. They deserve to be
- 14:16Speaker 2: able to sit back, make money off of the art
- 14:19Speaker 2: that they've created and just enjoy being legends and icons
- 14:24Speaker 2: and not having I hate to see. I'm gonna say,
- 14:28Speaker 2: our elders and It's not an age thing. It's more
- 14:30Speaker 2: of like a you know, the iconic. I hate to
- 14:32Speaker 2: see iconic people are icons out here having a fight
- 14:36Speaker 2: for what is theirs or just struggle in life at all.
- 14:39Speaker 2: After you work so hard and literally the backs of
- 14:44Speaker 2: certain industries are on your work. I just think that
- 14:47Speaker 2: it should be like, yeah, you're coming home, for you
- 14:51Speaker 2: to be able to just sit back, kick your feet
- 14:52Speaker 2: up and enjoy, you know, so wishing that though you know,
- 14:55Speaker 2: those ladies saw and people, that they get to.
- 14:57Speaker 1: That point and that this is settled. That is folks.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Again, you guys could be anywhere with anybody listening or
- 15:04Speaker 2: talking about all the things, but you guys choose to
- 15:07Speaker 2: be right here with me, my lowriders.
- 15:09Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys. I don't catch you in my
- 15:11Speaker 1: next episode. This Laurna Rosa and this is the latest