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Behind Umbrella's 'Monsters & Curiosities' ft. Jake Boston & Dave Lee! · Beyond The Blood: A Horror Movie Commentary Podcast

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  Speaker 4: Hello everybody, and welcome back to a brand new episode
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  Speaker 4: of the Beyond the Blood Podcast.
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  Speaker 5: We're back for a very very special episode.
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  Speaker 4: We are joined by Dave Lee and Jake of steal
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  Speaker 4: Book Obsessed to talk about all things monsters and curiosities,
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  Speaker 4: the upcoming massive universal horror release from Australia's Umbrella Entertainment.
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  Speaker 4: And this is a set that I'm incredibly excited for,
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  Speaker 4: I think many people in the community are very excited for.
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  Speaker 4: But what we want to focus on here at Beyond
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  Speaker 4: the Blood is the love for physical media and some
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  Speaker 4: of the hardships that go into kind of the production
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  Speaker 4: and building these box sets, some of the controversies, the positives,
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  Speaker 4: what it's like from the perspective of those actually building
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  Speaker 4: these sets and bringing them to our homes in a
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  Speaker 4: way that we love with the bonus features and the
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  Speaker 4: books and materials and everything. So today, joined by Davely,
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  Speaker 4: a co producer of Monsters of Curiosities and Jake, a
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  Speaker 4: contributor to that set, we're going to talk about some
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  Speaker 4: of the hardships that kind of came with the building
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  Speaker 4: of this mammoth of a box set containing forty five
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  Speaker 4: films coming out in April of this year, and we're
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  Speaker 4: going to dive into kind of some of the some
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  Speaker 4: of the heartaches that come into building a release like this,
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  Speaker 4: and kind of just how much love goes in despite
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  Speaker 4: all of the obstacles in the way, you know what
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  Speaker 4: it takes to go from idea to landing on our shelves.
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  Speaker 5: So I really hope you enjoyed this episode.
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  Speaker 4: This was very special for Steve and I to do
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  Speaker 4: to admire and love the sheer astonishing amount of work
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  Speaker 4: on our shows. Please enjoy this episode of the Beyond
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  Speaker 4: the Blood Podcast. All right, Well, before we dive in,
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  Speaker 4: I want to give a huge thank you to both
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  Speaker 4: you guys for joining us. Obviously, Jake Steel book Obsessed,
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  Speaker 4: thank you for kind of coming onto my show this time.
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  Speaker 4: I was on Boutique Talk a couple months ago, so
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  Speaker 4: thank you for coming on here and joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Man, absolutely, I'm very excited to talk about this release.
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  Speaker 6: In particular, there's a lot of juicy details that kind
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  Speaker 6: of a drill down deeper into and I think it's
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  Speaker 6: going to be a very informative discussion, to say the least.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited, man, And of course I don't think we
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  Speaker 4: could find a better person to have one to talk
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  Speaker 4: about those than Dave Lee.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us, Deve, thank you so.
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  Speaker 2: Much for having me. I'm glad to be here, excited
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  Speaker 2: to chat about this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. So let me know
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  Speaker 4: just quit were you were you the technical producer for
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  Speaker 4: this entire set for Umbrella.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually would have come on this set after Jake,
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  Speaker 2: so you were on this before me. So this was
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  Speaker 2: in the works for probably, I don't know how long,
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  Speaker 2: a few months, probably before I came on. I sort
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  Speaker 2: of came on as a contributor initially and wound up
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  Speaker 2: co producing the set with Umbrella, and I curated the set,
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  Speaker 2: and through curating it, I sort of wound up as
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  Speaker 2: a co producer as well across a lot of it.
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  Speaker 2: Once the set and I'm sure we'll talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: but the set was originally actually a lot smaller than
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  Speaker 2: it is and we got a bunch more movies sort
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  Speaker 2: of the last minute, and that was when I sort
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  Speaker 2: of came on board in a logic capacity. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: co producer and curator, and I've also contributed to the
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  Speaker 2: to the book as well.
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  Speaker 6: Like this is a monster of a set, and I
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  Speaker 6: probably worked on it myself for four to five months,
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  Speaker 6: I think, before Dave started going in there and just
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  Speaker 6: making sure, you know, crossing the t's not in the eyes,
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  Speaker 6: all that jazz. So it takes a very long time
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  Speaker 6: to put physical media together and make it as you know,
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  Speaker 6: as beefy as possible.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, well I worked. I worked on it for
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  Speaker 2: six months maybe oh, hang on, wait, the best part
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  Speaker 2: of a year, close to a year, probably because we
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  Speaker 2: actually wanted to get this out last October and kept
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  Speaker 2: getting pushed. Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk about that too,
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  Speaker 2: but it's been a long time, so it's probably the
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  Speaker 2: best part of two years. They probably had this one
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  Speaker 2: in the works.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Well, for anybody who doesn't know, we're taking a deep
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  Speaker 4: dive into a brand new release that comes down in
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  Speaker 4: April from Umbrella Entertainment. This is the Universal Horror, Monsters
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  Speaker 4: and Curiosities Blu Ray set and this thing is a mammoth.
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  Speaker 4: So there are forty five films in this set, spanning
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  Speaker 4: from nineteen twenty three to nineteen sixty And kind of
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  Speaker 4: remember the announcement for this being huge, mostly because I
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  Speaker 4: think people were shocked that Umbrella was putting out this
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  Speaker 4: big of a set at one time, as opposed to
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  Speaker 4: more of like their typical volume release style. But it
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  Speaker 4: was also kind of followed up by something that we'll
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  Speaker 4: dive more into a little bit later, which was a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of kind of controversy from seeming this lack
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  Speaker 4: of bonus material that kind of kicked off when this
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  Speaker 4: announcement happened, and while there was and still is a
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  Speaker 4: ton of excitement, Like I know, I'm incredibly excited to
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  Speaker 4: get into this. There's been a lot of talk, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a company like Umbrella, who's infamous for doing these incredibly journalistic,
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  Speaker 4: in depth releases, coming out with something that seemingly is
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  Speaker 4: a little a little bear, kind of beyond the surface.
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  Speaker 4: But in having you guys here, we're going to dive
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  Speaker 4: into exactly why that is and kind of what happened
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  Speaker 4: along the process of constructing this set. I'm a huge
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  Speaker 4: me and my wife a huge Universal Monsters van.
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  Speaker 5: We have the Universal like the fifty I think.
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  Speaker 4: There's fifty three films in that set that they put
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  Speaker 4: out that kind of spans them. But there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: in this set that are not available in there, which
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  Speaker 4: was kind of the main appeal for me.
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  Speaker 2: Steve.
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  Speaker 4: I know, you and I we talk a lot about
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  Speaker 4: you know, Jallo, European horror, all kind of genre stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Where do you land for kind of the Universal Monsters?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I grew up on a lot of these films,
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  Speaker 7: maybe not like some of deeper cuts necessarily, but I
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  Speaker 7: was introduced to some of these growing up. My dad
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  Speaker 7: was very integral to putting me onto films like this,
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  Speaker 7: and I think that really solidified my love of horror
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  Speaker 7: from a very early age. And then naturally kind of
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  Speaker 7: branched off from that eventually and you know, discovered more
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  Speaker 7: of these lesser known hidden gems. Yeah, you know that
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  Speaker 7: are featured in the set.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's so much more than Dracula, Wolfman, Mummy, Phantom.
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  Speaker 5: There's so much suffer in there.
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  Speaker 4: And this is why I love this this Umbrella set,
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  Speaker 4: because there's titles in here I've never heard of before,
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  Speaker 4: like I could not have named had you put me
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  Speaker 4: through a.
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  Speaker 5: Universal Horror challenge.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of appeal for me, especially to
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  Speaker 4: kind of dive into some of the titles on here.
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  Speaker 4: But before we fully get into that, Jake, I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to ask you because last year you had your disc
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  Speaker 4: debut with Umbrella Entertainment on the release of Freaked.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a huge, huge deal to me, and
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  Speaker 6: that box set was insanely in depth on that movie.
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  Speaker 6: So just to have a video essay on one of
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  Speaker 6: the three discs that were in that set was just
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  Speaker 6: kind of a mission accomplished. Check mark on that you
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  Speaker 6: know bucket list that I have.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well get give us a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: insight as a kind of like how how do you
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  Speaker 4: even begin to get involved with a physical media release?
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  Speaker 5: Like was it something that you reached out about?
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  Speaker 4: Was it kind of like like whatever you can kind
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  Speaker 4: of say about it, kind of what was the beginning
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  Speaker 4: of that experience?
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  Speaker 6: Like, so I've got kind of a unique footprint in
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  Speaker 6: the physical media realm. I've been covering physical media on
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  Speaker 6: social media since twenty twenty, Like I put a post
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  Speaker 6: out every day, and I have been fortunate enough to
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  Speaker 6: be able to help promote Umbrella Entertainment releases for three
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  Speaker 6: and a half years now. I was pretty in the
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  Speaker 6: States kind of making sure that they have kind of
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  Speaker 6: an extra spotlight to showcase off all their stuff. You
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  Speaker 6: talked about my podcast Boutique Talk. I had on Ari
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  Speaker 6: Harrison from Umbrella to talk and I let him know
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  Speaker 6: that I would love to do special features. And that
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  Speaker 6: kind of opened up another magical door through like email wonderlands,
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  Speaker 6: and I was able to finally talk to the right
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  Speaker 6: people because you just never know until you get in
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  Speaker 6: somebody's ear who is able to kind of help you
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  Speaker 6: go take that next step. So I got sent a
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  Speaker 6: list of movies that they were working on, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: part of three different releases either that are out now
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  Speaker 6: or upcoming from Umbrella. I'd Freaked and then this Universal
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  Speaker 6: Monster set, and it was just kind of fun to
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  Speaker 6: pitch my ideas on what I wanted to contribute to
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  Speaker 6: said sets and see if Umbrella was interested in going
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  Speaker 6: forward or seeing what we could tweak and see if
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  Speaker 6: there was any way that I could work on it.
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  Speaker 6: But this Universal Monster set in particular, my main goal
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  Speaker 6: with making special features on physical media is to try
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  Speaker 6: and open up doors to other content creators in like
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  Speaker 6: the YouTube, Instagram, TikTok space, just because I feel like
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  Speaker 6: they have a lot to say already and a lot
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  Speaker 6: of these people already have audiences, so if I can
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  Speaker 6: help them out, just like Umbrella took a chance on me,
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  Speaker 6: if I can have other people have their foot in
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  Speaker 6: the door, that's mission accomplished to me. So with this
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  Speaker 6: set in particular, for the Universal Monsters box set, I
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  Speaker 6: brought in Aaron Pinn from Cult to Cinema and I
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  Speaker 6: brought in DJ Martinez the third Films of My Color,
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  Speaker 6: because both those guys really have a unique take and
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  Speaker 6: can talk a lot of insight on a lot of
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  Speaker 6: the different movie topics that they like, but they also
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  Speaker 6: like this era of film, like the thirties through sixties,
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  Speaker 6: and I just knew they had some insight that maybe
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  Speaker 6: could help elevate some content that maybe I was a
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  Speaker 6: little biased on or didn't have as much information that
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  Speaker 6: they did. So I had a good conversation with Aaron
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  Speaker 6: Pinn on this release about aging in cinema, in particular
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  Speaker 6: about the movie The Leech Woman, which is in this set,
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  Speaker 6: and DJ Martinez talked about apes in early cinema to
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  Speaker 6: kind of go more into the murders of the Room
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  Speaker 6: Borgue film that's in this box set, and yeah, we
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  Speaker 6: can talk more about the trials and tribulations of how
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  Speaker 6: some special features morphed from one entity to their final form.
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  Speaker 6: But that's a whole ox of worms that will dig
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  Speaker 6: into later.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it was so cool when I started diving into
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  Speaker 4: the bonus, like when I was kind of reading who
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  Speaker 4: was involved with the set to see you obviously you
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  Speaker 4: to see Dj, I've watched films by color for a
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  Speaker 4: long time, but then to also see the names of
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  Speaker 4: people that I love reading, like Alexander Hall, like Heller Nicholas,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like other people. It was like this wide
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  Speaker 4: range of people that I already had so much association
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  Speaker 4: with from kind of multiple categories, and it was cool
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  Speaker 4: to see because the release actually feels even I obviously
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  Speaker 4: I had zero involvement, it kind of feels personal to
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  Speaker 4: me like I have a personal involvement because of people
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  Speaker 4: in the community being involved, kind of like that I
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  Speaker 4: know that guy thing and I'm very stoked that they're
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  Speaker 4: on this thing, and I get this supportive by having
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  Speaker 4: this and talking about this further. You know, Dave, you've
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  Speaker 4: been obviously you've been a producer for for for a
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  Speaker 4: long while.
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  Speaker 5: Now. How long have you been kind of doing stuff
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  Speaker 5: with Umbrella.
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  Speaker 2: For about a year, So this is actually my first
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  Speaker 2: project I jumped on, so I could have kind of
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  Speaker 2: got brought on board similar to to you, Jake. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I have been doing physical media coverage and stuff on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube and social media for a long time, and I've
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  Speaker 2: pro probably been working with Umbrella for probably probably since
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  Speaker 2: like twenty twenty. I'd sort of a wrap before they
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  Speaker 2: started really pushing into the physical media's the sort of
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  Speaker 2: boutique space, So I've known. Yeah, I've known the people
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  Speaker 2: at Umbrella for a long time and just trying to
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  Speaker 2: kick the door down and get in there and do
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  Speaker 2: some stuff with them, like, hey, guys, let me do
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  Speaker 2: some special features. But it's been a while. It's taken
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  Speaker 2: some time for us to sort of find something that
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  Speaker 2: we can sort of collaborate on together. So as you
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  Speaker 2: see behind me, I'm more so into like classic cinema,
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood blockbuster stuff, more mainstream kind of films, and I
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  Speaker 2: specialize in the history of classic cinema from nineteen twenties
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  Speaker 2: up to probably the nineteen seventies, and then more recent stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of the Disney stuff, and so
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  Speaker 2: it's been been a while for me to kind of
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  Speaker 2: convince them that I can come in. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I'm just a cinema
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  Speaker 2: lover and I love all films and I'll watch anything.
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  Speaker 2: But because they predominantly until this point have been more
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  Speaker 2: cult films horror kind of direction, it's found them. It
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  Speaker 2: took them some time to kind of get me in
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  Speaker 2: and go, okay, let's let's get you onto something. So
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  Speaker 2: the Monsters set was the first one where they said okay,
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  Speaker 2: come in and do something for us. And I've spent
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  Speaker 2: the last ten years doing history documentaries on YouTube of
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  Speaker 2: pop culture characters and stuff like that, these like half
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  Speaker 2: hour video essay documentary things, and they were like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we want you to come in and do a video,
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  Speaker 2: I say, on the history of the Monsters films. So
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  Speaker 2: that was kind of my endpoint. And then when they
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  Speaker 2: saw that and when hey, we actually didn't realize you
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  Speaker 2: had such a good knowledge of just film in gener
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  Speaker 2: they were like, can you curate the set for us?
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  Speaker 2: And can you produce it? And I guess I were
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  Speaker 2: happy with what I did and I'm on a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of other projects at the moment. So yeah, so about
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  Speaker 2: a year. About a year is it?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 5: But now you're now you're fully in it? Man, I
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  Speaker 5: hope you're ready. Oh I know.
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  Speaker 2: And there's some awesome stuff coming, and like they're really
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  Speaker 2: making an effort now to try and push in new
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: directions and we're trying to we're having conversations at the
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  Speaker 2: moment trying to find ways we can push stuff that
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  Speaker 2: hasn't necessarily been stuff that they've released in the past,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's because it hasn't sold for them well in
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  Speaker 2: the past or stuff that they haven't really figured out
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  Speaker 2: how to sell, and particularly when we're selling stuff to
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  Speaker 2: internationals like you guys, and when it comes to like
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: stuff like Australian cinema is a particular hard push. So
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sort of in amongst all these conversations at the
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  Speaker 2: moment and trying to I'm working across a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'm working across some horror stuff. But I'm a huge
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  Speaker 2: fan of the monster films too, so yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like Slasher Gore stuff has never really been my
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  Speaker 2: my thing, but I love the classic stuff and psychological
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  Speaker 2: horror like the shining and conjuring and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 2: the studio stuff. But yeah, I'm working on some really
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  Speaker 2: cool stuff at the moment, and yeah, it's amazing stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And my Janke is on one or two of my titles.
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  Speaker 2: I've got you doing something for me. Yeah, I can't
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  Speaker 2: talk about it. Yeah, talk about it some boxe it
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  Speaker 2: so that'll come. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Umbrella has become like the for us, so ingrained in
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  Speaker 4: the physical media space that's become the most exciting announcements
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  Speaker 4: for us. I know, like the group chat that Steve
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  Speaker 4: and I have with a couple of other collectors. It's
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  Speaker 4: always like Umbrella and Arrow are kind of like the
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: all right, they're coming, everybody starts guessing, and the China
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  Speaker 4: there's like people zooming into the photo, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I in trying to pick on what's in there. So
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  Speaker 4: Umbrella is incredibly exciting. And for me personally, I know,
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't as big a fan of the film and
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  Speaker 4: I've become one. But my wife, our favorite piece in
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: our collection is probably their Super Mario Brothers release. For me,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: it's the Caligula release that was by and far one
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  Speaker 4: of my favorite physical physical media releases ever. But since then,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I mean I've got I love both volumes with a
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: new Extremity collection that's very much on my alley, Intruder
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  Speaker 4: Monkey Shines Like just these incredibly in depth, like collector
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  Speaker 4: friendly releases that kind of hit all of the buttons
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking for when I'm picking up physical media. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's like it's it's in a rigid box, there's a book,
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  Speaker 4: there's words and pictures to appease both.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it checks all the boxes.
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  Speaker 1: For Chris.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got some art cards, reversible art work without
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  Speaker 4: the Australian rating on it.
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  Speaker 6: You know with cover inside of the box, like they
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: just to me their packaging goes above and beyond.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, always, Steve, do you have a lot of Umbrella stuff?
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: A decent amount. I see in Jake's background his see
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: a couple of the Full Moon box Set's a big
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: fan of those, really like the release for Kids, Bully,
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: I Saw the Devil. Those are a few of my
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: favorites that they put out. I have a decent amount
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: of them.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Kids, I was hoping.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I was holding out and picking up Marfa Girl one
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: in two from Vinegar Syndrome and hoping that Umbrella would
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: deliver that. But I was a little led down not
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: to see that yet. But you know, the future is
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: always ahead of us and there's always cool stuff up there.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: But getting into this set, there's forty five films in
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: here held in a disc wallet. Obviously there's a custom
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: art rigid case. But then there is a one hundred
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: plus page hardback book and this is like absolutely incredible.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: But in speaking with you guys once we kind of
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: started the idea of doing this episode of the podcast,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you Dave told us about how originally there was much
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: more a lot of what is in the book now
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: was originally in a different format on disc, which would
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: if that stuff had still been included, there might not
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: be as much talk or negative talk around this release
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: as there is, which I don't want people to think
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: it's all negative talk, because it's not, but it's definitely
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: But like I've drawn blood for the amount of time,
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: I bit my tongue on this situation because I just
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: want to defend this box set like crazy and a lot.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Dave can go into more detail than I can, but
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: just the amount of roadblocks that were thrown our way
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: at the very last second here is just like makes
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: me want to punch a hole through the wall. Man.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well I need you to know, man, you
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: have no wall space to punch holes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I've heard in my physical media.
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know those movies.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: But so you have a list.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: You set me a list of visual essays and a
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: documentary that was going to be included in this release
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: that was kind of like, oh my god, where like
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: this stuff should have been on here? And then at
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: some point you went through the process, got all of
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: this made, and then at some point something changed, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: now all of that has to be converted into a
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: readable format and put into a book. So without you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not trying to dig for information that
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: that that we can't get into here. But can you
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: kind of talk about, Dave, what was that moment like
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: when you're like, oh my god, I have all this
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: and now we have to change it and somehow keep
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: it all as interesting in poor as it would have
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: been in a visual format.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Heartbreaking is the word that comes to mind. We had
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: so many great people doing amazing stuff, like incredible video essays,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: like incredible stuff on this when you mentioned some of
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: them earlier. Emma west Well, actually, Emma Westwood, her piece
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: on the Universal Formula for Success was originally written as
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: a as a book, a piece for the book, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: that was supposed to be like the main piece for
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the book. It was this massive, like five thousand and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: six thousand word essay, amazing stuff that was always ready
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and prepare for the book. And then we have Jake
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and Aaron. Aaron did the Fear of Aging and film.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Alexandra Halen Nicholas did two for us, one on Mary
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Shelley's Dark Legacy and one on Girls Gone Wild, Women,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Animals and Race in Universal Monster Movies Sally one on
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the Platt and the Occult. Paul Anthony Nelson did one
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: on The Incredible Shrinking Man, as did Paul Betel, so
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: there was two on The Incredible Shrinking Man, and then
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: DJ Martinez the third Films by Color, did one on
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Monster to Marta, the evolution Evolution of Ape of the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Ape in early horror cinema, and then I did one myself,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: which was a forty five minute featurette on the history
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of the Monsters franchise. Now, I edited a majority of
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: these pieces myself, the video essays myself, and then was
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: across the copyright stuff on it. So because we were
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: using footage from all the movies, we had to be
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: just careful that everything we were using we could use.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And because you know, when you're doing stuff on social
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: media or YouTube or anything, you know you can get
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: away with fair use, but once it becomes a physical,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: commercial product, it changes things. So we had all of
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: this prepped. All of them had been written and recorded
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: before I came on board, and then I came and
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: edited the ones that needed to be edited. Jake, you
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: did your own editing on yours. DJ did editing on his,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: and there was a couple of others that were done already,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and I came in and did maybe four or five
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of them, including my own, and we were well across it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And I mean, we're dealing with a big studio here,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So I mentioned earlier we wanted to get this out
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: in October, so we got delayed. So when you're dealing
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: with a big studio as a license, naturally the process
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: is going to be a little bit slower than say,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: if you're working with a smaller independent license or distributor.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: So we're dealing with the studio and that's okay. We're
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: dealing with the team over in America, so the main
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: corporate universal who oversees everything, and I should say umbrellas.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I spoke to them and they're okay with me talking
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: about this because they we all feel that it's better
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to address it than to dance around the situation. So essentially,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: we had been given the okay to use a bunch
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of stuff, and then at the last minute, I don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: want to get too into it, but it turned out
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that there was stuff we couldn't use unless we, I guess,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: took out an additional license and then so we had
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: used clips from other films that we didn't particularly have
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the license to. And then certain actors have their own
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: estates which are managed, and you then have to go
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: to their estates and get their permission to use their
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: likeness and stuff, and it all just became very complex
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: at the last minute, very last minute, very literally like
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: preparing to make an announcement last minute. So the conversation
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: happened internally at Umbrella to what do we do, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: they came to me with the news, Hey, all this
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: stuff you guys have all been working on, we are
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: going to have to repurpose. So then I sort of
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: had to go to everyone and go, hey, this is
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the situation. Can we repurpose what you've done for book form?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And in Jake's your example, I mean, you probably had
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the worst job of it all because Jake and Aaron
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: sat down for like a podcast like discussion, so we
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: had to go through and do like a transcription and
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: then to make sure that that was okay to be
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: printed in book form. So it is kind of maybe
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: the odd duck at in the book that it's like
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: a and I imagine people will open it and be
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: maybe a bit confused about it. It's like a conversation.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: It's like a podcast like interview, it's a script.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I wanted one of another one of my
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: bucket list goals was to make my podcast, Boutique Talk
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: put on physical media, Like I That's something I've wanted
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: to do forever. I thought I got it accomplished here,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: and I spent so many hours editing it, putting in
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: like different clips from the movies over when we're talking
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: on the podcast, and then to hear that, like, we
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: can't actually use this anymore. There's barriers, roadblocks just got
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: put up. So can you make what this thirty five
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: minute podcast was into, Uh, you know, a written essay
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: that'd be great?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Thanks? Okay? And I was the asshole who had to
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: come to him like before that you went through the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: ringer really because you had used clips from stuff that
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I had to be like, I, we can't use.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: This, I guess we should go. Yeah. I had different
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: drafts because I'm used to the YouTube side of things,
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: so I put a whole love I love using gifts
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: and all of my stuff because you don't need music
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: in there, but it's still moving images and whatnot. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: I had a lot of different gifts from all over
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: the world, like we talk about some different similarities between
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: like the Leech Woman and snow White and Seven Dwarves
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: and a lot of different other ips that becomes her
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: all that stuff, And I put a lot of images
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: and gifts from those movies in that essay or the podcast,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: and I didn't know if I was going to be
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: able to get away with that or not. I did not,
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: so I put in a secondary draft of just using
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: Universal Monster clips. I'm like, oh, okay, that's fine. I'm
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: still happy with the way that this turned out. And
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: then just to go from that to a finished piece
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: that was ready to go and the discs were almost
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: ready to like start going on the press, to being like, oh, actually,
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: we can't put any special features on this release anymore,
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: and they're all going to be put into this big book.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: It's gonna be one of the biggest books we ever
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: put out, that Umbrella's ever put out. And to make
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: a transcript and that editing process took even longer than
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: what like the final podcasting video piece was, just because
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: I had to keep on going back and forth with
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: Aaron make sure that like our different talking points worked
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: well on a written scale, as opposed to like a
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: video visual scale so completely different and it's a unique experience.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: I'm glad I had, but I yeah, I'm happy to
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: be in written word in a book because I that's
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: never been an accomplishment of mine ever. But just now
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: say that I have. It's it's cool. It's just taken
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: a lot of work to get there.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will say it still reads really well.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: It's still a really fantastic piece and a great conversation,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and it's one of the things I was like, really
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: sad to lose from the said so that's so many
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: great video essays, but then there's this really fantastic conversation
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: between Jake and Aaron, and it's just sad to lose it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: But I think at the at the end there were
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: probably pieces we could have used, but I think it
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: came down to, like, would we rather put out a
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: set that has like two bonus features on it or
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a set that has nothing? So like it came down to, like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: all right, it's probably fair to everyone that we just
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: repurpose everyone's stuff, and it's probably better, probably better that
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the set looks bare bones than they put two bonus
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: features together to whatever, and they really want to make
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the selling point the one hundred plus page book. So
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: we've turned that into like the big key selling point
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: for the set is that, hey, you get all these
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: movies might not have bonus features, but there's a one
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: hundred page plus hardcover book with a bunch of really
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: really awesome essays in it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I do want to say, Jake,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: we are probably going to need your help because from
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: this moment forward, I think Steve and I are going
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: to release books for every podcast episode we do. I
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna start putting out volumes, you know what
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, of all our episodes. But no, I think
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I think it really separates kind of the like I'm
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: I'm a book guy. I've I have friends who call
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: me the bearded booklet guy over the bearded film guy.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Because I love a book. I love a booklet, I
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: love written material, and it doesn't bother me at all.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: If you're gonna put out, let's say, a bear Bones release,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: but you're gonna give me my money's worth in in
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: written material, right that that doesn't bum me out. Anybody
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: who is incredibly serious about research or wanting to learn
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: understands that most of the information we get is coming
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: from books like we've That's why we go on eBay
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: and we try to find books in literature and collections
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and try to read as much as we can. And
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: you know, for somebody like myself, it's that's very important
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: and I don't mind. But I do feel like there's
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: another side of the collector who does not lean as
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: heavy into it as somebody like myself, where Steve would.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And the ones that are gonna raise they're gonna be
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: the loudest about complaining are the people who probably weren't
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: gonna watch the bonus features on it anyway. They just
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: want to say that they were on there, and they
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: want to feel like that's where their money's worth was.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: And what they're ignoring is the forty five included movies
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: in the set.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: To me, that's the main saving grace in not having
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: special features on here, is that there's so much content
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: already without those in there that I think that some
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: of the special features just would have gotten lost on
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: the disc anyway because of all the movies that are included.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like I'm just looking at the picture
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: and there's, oh my god, five ten wits air nineteen
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: discs in this set holding forty five movies. That's that's incredible.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: And how do you, uh what I know? Like, obviously
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: you know Alexandra Heller Nicholas. She probably translates really well
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: to written because she's written some incredible books on various
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: genre topics. So I doubt anything was lost in that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: What happened to your forty five minute documentary that you did?
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Because to forty five to make a forty five minute
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: documentary is an incredible amount of work. Like people think, oh,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: it's only forty five minutes. No, that's that's an astonishing
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: amount of work. What do you do in this case
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: when something like this happens to your work?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Well, of course it's disappointing. And I'm looking at the script.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I mean it's initially written as a script anyway, so
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: it's not me sitting in front of a microphone and
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: like just talking about the monster movies. It's I'm pretty
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: it so nine pages, five thousand words just looking at
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: it here, which probably took me the best part of
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks to write, maybe just like solely
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: focusing on it and then the editing work. It probably
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: took me a couple of months to put it together
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: all together, so like it's it's sad, but at least
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it's written. There are things that I do have to
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: go through and change a little bit, you might, and
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff, I'm sort of weary that
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: you're showing the information and you're not telling it. You
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: don't always have to say what's on the screen. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: in some cases I'm like, well, I have to go
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: back and fix a few things because it's not as
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: evident in a written form what I'm talking about. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it wasn't. Actually, it wasn't that much of a hassle
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: going back and fixing it up. In fact, it probably
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: it allowed me to add more information to the piece
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: than I would have had in the original video. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: could reference movies that perhaps from other studios that I
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: couldn't have referenced before. I did an entire like PostScript
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: which discusses their work with the Hammer Horror films, the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: early Hammer Horror films in the early sixties. So there
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: were universal studios that really the anchor point to getting
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the Hammer films into American cinemas and collaborated with them
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: on a number of films, and it's something I really
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: wanted to include in the documentary but couldn't, so I
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: was actually able to go back in and add some stuff,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: and there was a couple of other things as well
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that I could add, And at the end that day,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I'm really happy with it as a written piece, and
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: there are discussions about getting this stuff out somehow, So
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: we're talking about, Yeah, I'm really pushing to get all
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: of it out there, and whether that's we are fload
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that to our YouTube channels or whatever, or we're just
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: trying to trying to have that discussion with Umbrella at
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: the moment. And like I said earlier, when it's no
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: longer a commercial product, you can start getting away with
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: stuff like you know, the fair you stuff. But across
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the board, like I put in the effort to make
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: sure everything in these pieces were stuff that technically we
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: should have been able to use. So I don't think
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: we're run into any issues there. But yeah, but they,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: like Jake said, it's just the whole things that we're
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: learning curve even just like where I'm so used to
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: being able to use anything on YouTube, it was like
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: a real study in trying to figure out what we
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: could and couldn't use I had to do full I
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: don't know if you ended up seeing what I had
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to put together these copyright documents where I wouldn't want
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I was. I would send it through to you. I'll
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: just show you what I was doing. It would sort
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of go through everyone's piece and take note of every
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: video that was used, every image that was used, poster,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: sound bit, it, whatever, and would be in a spreadsheet
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: and I would have to mark off the stuff that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: we were allowed to use, stuff that we weren't allowed
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: to use, and then go in and either re edit
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: it myself or go to the other creators like Jake
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and again be the guy who has to go You've
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: got to get rid of that. Please get rid of this.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: So it's a whole it was a whole just thing.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: But like at the end of the day, you can
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: only do what you can do, and there was I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: think we all took it pretty well. There's like no
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: one really, no one complained about it. It's just like
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: what do you do at the end of the day.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: It's like heartbreaking, but you just get on with it
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and make the best of the situation. And again we've
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: repurposed everything as text and hopefully we'll be able to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: get the stuff out there. I don't know when. I
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: don't know whether we can coincide it with the release
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of the set, or whether it will be a little
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: bit after, or whether we'll use it to help market
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the set or something. We're just really fingers crossed that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: we can hopefully get the stuff out there. So we're
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: just waiting for the final like okay.
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: On that, but some amazingly, like literally I'm hoping that
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: we can use it to help promote the release, just
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: to kind of, you know, give it a little bit
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: more lift out there and just more visual eyes at
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: the set is out there from Umbrella.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Well, your piece alone it's about half an hour, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: then my piece is forty five minutes. We had a
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: few like fifteen twenty minute video essays, so it's like
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: easily three hours plus of material that should have been
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: on the set. Like there's a lot of stuff like
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: these aren't like five six minute video essays. These are
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: like in depth twenty fifteen to twenty minute pieces like
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: everyone putting some awesome work and yeah, it's heartbreak into.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: What do you do?
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: I was going to ask about it, like collectively, how
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: much time had gone into this because I can only
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: imagine if this was like a last minute decision to
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: go in a much different direction. Hopefully we'll be able
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: to see you know, that content, you know, get the
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: light of day.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so stressed.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: I helped talk with again Aaron and DJ and they
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: were both I can just I can semi talk about
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: their feelings on it because they're what mine were. They're
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: just kind of bummed that it happened, still happy that
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: they're part of this amazing box set. But yeah, hopefully
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: one of these days will able we'll be able to
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: kind of showcase off the work that we worked so
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: hard to put on disc in the first place.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Awesome. I know it is himself. That's one of the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: ones that was edited by someone else, and it's such
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: good work.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: And it's the first real video essay he's ever done. Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: I'm very I'm happy and proud that he was able
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: to put that produced together. And I know it's kind
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: of a lit a fire under him to do more
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: of this stuff because he had such a great time
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: doing it and it turn out very well.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know, we over the over the year
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: that we've been doing this podcast, you know, we've we've
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: taken a plunge into probably what over twenty commentaries. Now
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: we've spoken to people who have worked on the commentaries,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: and you know, we always preach that people need to
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: give these bonus features a chance, like we we campaign
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: for all bonus features, but especially commentaries because of the
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: information and myself and Ryan from Disconnected, our producer on
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: this show. In twenty twenty six, we're really pushing this
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: physical Media is education campaign where we're really trying to
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: get people to dive beyond just the feature film on
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: the disc and watch your commentaries, watch the visual essays
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: and really do all that. And I think you said,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: you know, a couple of months to really refine and
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: edit nine pages, which does feel like a lot five
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: thousand words when I'm reading a booklet and you know
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: it takes me. I read a nine page written essay,
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: it's twenty minutes of my life. For somebody who doesn't understand,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: you know, what it takes to write that, they're thinking, oh,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: somebody whipped this up on a weekend and put it
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: out now it's in my physical media release.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: That's not the truth. That's that's not how this works.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: And as you said, there are months and years that
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: sometimes go into this material, and some of my favorite
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: pieces in my physical media collection are incredibly personal or
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: first time for people that really love this and put
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: everything that they have into it, and it's it always
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: blows my mind when people are just able to be like, yeah,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, or you know, I don't care about that, dude.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: It's crazy Like we had, you know, last year, we
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: talked to Philip Escott from Second Site Films and we
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: kind of talked about the same thing with him because
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I was talking about how amazing there was an essay
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: in The Brood that I love that I still think
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: about to this day. It's been nearly a year since
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: that release came out, and you know, the booklet stuff.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I love the commentaries, like I want to learn everything
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I can and I want people to understand that it's very,
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: very very easy to critique.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Something you know nothing about making.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: It's so easy to but until you get a glimpse
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: inside of it and you kind of get to feel,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: you know, or just get an understanding of the time,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I feel like people will appreciate that more moving forward,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: when they get physical media in their hands, they're like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: oh man, somebody put a lot of time into let
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: me give this a chance, like I'm interested in this,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: let me, you know, dive into this. Hence why I'm
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: so attracted to companies like Umbrella. Severn is one of
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: my favorite in the industry because I think they just
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: produce some of the best interview views, some of the
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: most comprehensive companies like Arrow putting in that time and
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: of course having friends in our space Steve who make
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: audio commentaries, and you're trying about years of work that
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: go into it for one percent of your buyers to
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: maybe listen to it, and then you know, zero point
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: two five percent of that to even talk about it
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: in any forum at all on the internet, to give
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: any flight to it. And that's really where we're hoping
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: to land is like we're that small percentage that's gonna
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: be like, yo, put that second disc in click play.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: I bet you you're going to learn something and you're
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: gonna love that movie so much more, and that's only
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: gonna snowball you into checking out more and more and
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: more until you're like obsessed with it like we are.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. You did mention.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: That there were more films meant this box which already
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: blows my mind. We have forty five finalized. What was
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: the original number?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, so we'll start at the beginning. So as
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: you mean, like, our main goal behind what we're doing
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: with the bonus features here is to give that context
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: that you're talking about the people. I mean, we've got
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: movies from the nineteen twenties in here. We've got four
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: silent films in here, that a vast majority of people
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: probably haven't seen. And then you've got movies from the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: even the movies from the thirties and the forties and
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the fifties are all just and the films that we've
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: got our hands on are just all curios some on
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the box set curiosities, with a few very well known
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: ones thrown in as well. So the idea behind all
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: these features was to contextualize everything and to give the audience,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: a consumer, the information designed to help you understand these films,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: know where they come from, how they were made, why
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: they were made.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: Piece.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: That's why they commissioned video from me was they wanted
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: something that explains the history. And you go from silent
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: films to these gothic horrors to these strange melodramas to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: weird comedies, to the nineteen fifties paranoia radiation age fueled
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: sci fi horrors, and it's just this franchise that goes
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: in so many weird directions. So my piece was really
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: too kind of give an overview of everything. And then
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you have the smaller pieces from the twenty thirty minute
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: pieces that then go further. So Jade's piece on one
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: of the most obscure films, of The Leech Woman, which
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: is considered like the last universal monster horror, and then
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: you've got stuff on the gothic horror films and stuff
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: on the paranoia age stuff. I think we still achieved
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: that with it in the booklet. So you get a
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: really nice overview of what's going on in this franchise
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and what these films achieved and how they came to be.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: So initially we had started with I think twenty films,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: maybe what was like around twenty movies, and then with
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: all you guys had all done the work, I came
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: in started doing my video essay. They had seen it
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: and they liked what I did with it, and then
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: they called me one day and said, we've just been
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: offered another thirty films and They're like, we might need
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: you to help us curate this and figure out how
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to present everything on the discs, because like,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: what do you put them all in chronological release order?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Do you put them in order of franchise? Do you
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: put them in order of actor? So then it sort
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: of became another one of my roles to put together
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: these double and triple features to see if we can
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: fit for five ish hour's worth of films on a
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: single disc. So that's where you get the silent films
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: across two discs, and then you get the Kylov and
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: lu Goo see gothic horror film spread across like four
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: discs or whatever it is. Then the sci fi age
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: films there's a whole slew of box of discs on them.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And then you have the more just obscure stuff. So
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: there's some weird melodramas in there that get their own disc.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: You get a disc of mad doctors and scientists and
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: stuff like this. So it was really a way of
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: kind of figuring out what was going to be the
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: best viewing experience. So it had ballooned to the best
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: part of fifty something features, and at the last minute
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: we dropped a couple only because we kind of felt
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: they were maybe a little misplaced and we didn't have
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: all of them. So there's a cycle of films that
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Lon Cheney Junior did in the nineteen forties which were
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: these weird kind of they weren't really horror films, but
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: they were like detective sort of serial film noir kind
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: of kind of things that were like tinged with that
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: kind of horror style. They kind of used the success
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: of the Horror franchise to get these films add into
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: theaters and they gave them like horror like titles to
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: kind of confuse audiences into thinking that they were horror films.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: And these are called the Inner Sanctum Mysteries and they
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: were based on like a series of radio plays and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: we I think there's like six installments and we had
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: three of them, I think. So they're all really good films,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: but they're not necessarily horror films. And it also came
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: down to, like, look, we've got so many discs, and
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: like can we get rid of some stuff? And my
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: my thing was that like this would go out to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: the consumer and there will be a certain subset of
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: people who go, you put three of these in here,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: but you haven't put all seen and another distributed another
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: distributor did release a box seut of these films a
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: few years back, so they're readily available. Not an Australian distributor,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Ureka put out put out the set of the Inner
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Sanctum Mysteries and uh, there are awesome films and the
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: ones we had I'm trying to figure out what ones
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: were initially in the box set, which will give you
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: an idea. The ones we had been given were the
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: ones that were like more horror centric, that kind of
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: felt more horror ish, but they're kind of not. So
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I did have like a here it is.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: It looks like Mill Creek put out a set in
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: the US that was the original. Oh I can't even
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: remember which ones we had. It's been like.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we had a disc of like three films.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I think Pillow of Death was one, and there was
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: a couple of couple that that could have worked, but
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: ultimately they just ended up kind of getting dropped from
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the set. But it's a same shame to lose stuff.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: But I think forty five movies is already pretty pretty,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: you know, and technically they're not really part of the
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Monster's franchise. They're like adjacent Monster adjacent, so there's probably
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: was gonna be complaints about that as well. Over like
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: like a franchise.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: What I've liked about this set is that, sure, we're
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: kind of nitpicking some things that like we weren't able
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: to cram in, but the response from audience for the
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: most part is just like, oh my god, this set
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: is epic. Like we've had people come out of the
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: woodwork from Paton Oswald to Gherimal del Toro just kind
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: of saying, oh my god, I can't believe this is
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: an actual thing. And I think this release is going
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: to put Umbrella on the map for a certain type
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: of physical media collector that really hasn't picked up an
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: Umbrella released before, which is what I'm most excited about.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Well, and I've said this multiple times already, I don't
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: want people to think that we're addressing the controversy as
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: a way of talking negative on a release, because I
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: think that this is going to be like one of
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: the penultimate Umbrella releases, Like, I think this is going
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: to be one of the most stellar displays of a
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: catalog ever released. And I mean, you know, us audiences
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: like We have access to a lot of these in
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Bluey already, but a lot of these we don't, or
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: we don't have them in an accessible way where it's
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: kind of all in one group of packaging. To have
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: the people involved that are involved is incredible. It looks
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I can't even tell you, Like, just looking at the
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: picture of the set that's on my screen right now,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: I have no idea, Like my mind can't comprehend how
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: big physically this set is because the pictures probably don't
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: do it any justice as to what it's going to
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: look like on a shelf.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Know, Umbrella's already known for big beefy box ats as
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: you always say, Yeah, this feels like the beefy is
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Boy of them all.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: And it's incredible.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: And I saw the Gameo del Toro like part of
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: the marketing and the patent oswall part of the marketing,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: and that's incredible, especially you know Germa del Toro coming
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: off of Frankenstein last year.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Everybody knows his.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Love for the Universal Monsters, so having his backing is phenomenal.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: I think that that despite everything that's happened, this is
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: still going to be probably release of the year for
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: a lot of people and.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: Sure early in the year.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Man it comes out in April, that still still leaves
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: us eight months of releases that are completely unknown. Yeah,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: you know, even Umbrella could even step up with something
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: in the next eight months that you know, could be
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: bigger and badder, but I doubt it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the biggest set they've put together up till now,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: and like even myself, just like it's been something I've
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: wanted to do for a long time, and Jake you
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: mentioned it too, you know, trying to get involved in
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: doing stuff on physical discs. And when I was brought in,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, awesome, the classic movie guy. I love
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: my classic films, and I get to talk about him,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I get to curate this set, I get to do
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: all this, and I'm just having fun doing it all.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: But the moment that announcement went out, and I had
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: seen the artwork and stuff prior, but the announcement goes
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: out and there's the set where the Universal Pictures logo
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: on the spine, it clicked. I hang on, we've actually
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: just we've come together and put together a set that
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: is branded with this studio logo. It was like such
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: a figurehead in cinema, Like what a big first one
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: for us to I mean, you know you worked on
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Freaks Freaked, but like it's like crazy and then to
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: see the way people swarmed around it and have again
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: again you say, we talk about the controversy behind it,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: but predominantly it's been really positive feedback we've got from it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: So here's accomplishment too.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Guillama de Toro coming out and saying whatever
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: he said, how cool is this?
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: And like that wasn't marketing either, that was all organic,
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: Like the announcement came out and people were coming out
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: of the woodwork being like this is an amazing box at.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I can't imagine.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, Jake, I when you talked about when you
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: announce you know, your involvement on Freaked, I remember thinking, like,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: you know, one day there will be a day when uh,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: you know, we're involved in something, and I could just
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: picture sitting in this room holding it tears in my
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: eyes from pure happiness, and I imagine for both of
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: you guys at this point that that that has already
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: happened or is right on the verge of kind of
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: sinking in. I mean, Jake, what was it like for
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: you to hold Freaked and see your name on the
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: back of that thing.
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: It still feels surreal, and like the going over all
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: the special features they had to make that print it
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: out in the tiniest print possible. There was so much
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: on those discs to where like I finally found my
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: name and I'm like, this does not feel real. And
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: I know that I'm gonna feel the same way when
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: I pop that book open and see my name in
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: print on essay that I helped create. It's just it's
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: a unique, surreal experience that I don't think I'm ever
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: going to get sick of. And I've gotten very addicted
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: to try to kind of curate my own STI book
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: obsessed collection in my collection.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, Dave, have you held a physical copy
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: of this year or are they not?
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: For an idiot?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Not ready yet? So typically we I guess they're in
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: in production now and they'll be ready with us probably
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: within a few weeks of going out to the public.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: So cool. So yeah, So I think like the first
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: set that I was so this is the first thing
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I was brought onto alongside a couple of others, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: then they asked me to do like a couple of
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: last minute things for the Dogma set. So I got
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: a video essay and a written essay on that, and
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: same thing. Getting that in my hands is like what
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: And you put the disc in and then there's your
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: video essay and that's wild. It's just it's weird. No
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: matter how much you know success, you can have online,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: build a following and do lots of cool stuff, but
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: suddenly you've got this kind of physical thing that you've
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: helped make.
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: Is like it's surreal.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. And it's still like just putting that
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: disc in and then just watching my video say off it,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: It's just like that felt no different to clicking play
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: on a YouTube thing. But then it's like the thought,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I'm still having trouble compartmental you know, getting my brain
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: wrapped around the fact that this is going to go
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: out to people on physical discs and this monster thing
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: is going to be a lot Like that's something that
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I've helped curate and co produced with them and was
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: just a cross for so long, and Jake, you were
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: working across for so long. It's going to be like amazing,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: and like that one of the things I said to
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: them and I'd imported all the Eureka releases. Eureka probably
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: put out ninety percent of the movies that are in
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: these and I piecemealed together collection of these movies over
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the course of like five or six years, in however
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: many many little sets they did. And now to get
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: them all together in one set, I said Tom Brown,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is gonna be like for everyone that
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: already has that big monster box set with whether it
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: be the fifty something film one with all the sequels,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: or whether it's just like one with the classic films,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: this is going to be an awesome set companion to
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: go next to it and putting them together. It's like,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: this is like ninety five, probably maybe a little bit
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: more percent of the studio's horror output from this. From
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: this SERI, there's like a couple of other films that
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: we couldn't get our hands on or that wouldn't be
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: included in either of the sets. This is like a
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: vast This gets a vast majority of those films into
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: the hands of collectors, and many movies which have been
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: curiosities or rarities for so long for our people to
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: be able to appreciate them and for us to be
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: involved in bringing that to people and provide some sort
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: of historical context background to it is. Couldn't think of
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: anything better? This is awesome?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well, I know, we, along with many other
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: people who collect physical media, are so thankful and appreciative
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: of the work that goes in, you know, and I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: think everybody, like everybody like the excitement just in our
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: little group chat alone, which is five people, was out
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: of control for this announcement, you know, and most of us,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: you know, like obviously we know the big landmark universal stuff,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: but there's a lot on this set I've never even
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: heard of, like and I'm gonna be discovering for the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: first time. And I know, like see, we consider ourselves
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: pretty you know, pretty educated on the genre as a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: whole and for sure in most categories, and we welcome
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: that so much, like when we see something we've never
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: heard of, it's like Christmas morning, you know. It's the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: ability to fill in a gap and just kind of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: learn and experience something new.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: You know, I would say, not only as just collectors,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: but film enthusiasts just in general. I mean, to be
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: exposed to new films you're not as familiar with. I mean,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: I feel like we always welcome that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the biggest things for me was that
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: the film includes that, the set includes silent films, Like
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: we've been able to go back and get the silence,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: which are usually the most overlooked of them all. But
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: they're amazing films. I don't know how many of you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: you have watched a lot of silent films, but they're amazing.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: They're so good. And when you see the restoration work
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: that's been done on these, you kind of think of
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: silent films as these sort of rinky dink little two
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: times speed, little silly little things. But a lot of
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: that comes from just the way that the films have
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: been treated over the years. And you're probably watching like
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: fifth sixth generation scan of a film and then the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: speed kind of goes out of whack and all this.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: When you see the proper restorations that have been done
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: on these films, they're just incredible. And you know, the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: big part of silent films was it was all visual
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: and the acting had to draw you in, like the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: eyes had to tell the story and so but they
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: put so much money into some of these as well,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: like they were some of the most expensive films ever made,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: The Phantom of the Opera and a Hunchback of Notre Dame,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: and they're just incredible productions. And then of course they're
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: not silent. You've got music and these beautiful scores that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: have been recorded for them, and I'm just so happy
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: that they get to go out there, and I hope
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: that those discs don't get overlooked because they're it might
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: have been some of the best movies that are that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: are in the set. So it's just really cool to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: be able to have the whole history of the franchise
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: and the studio's output of horror stuff. It's just so
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: it's so.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: Cool, well so excited for the sun.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: What I've noticed about physical mediic likes is that I
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: think in like we get really excited about cool stuff
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: that we've never experienced before, and it does kind of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: open up a lot of people's eyes to try something new.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: And I'm specifically referencing I think it was the last
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: year Radiance putting out. I can never say the name correctly.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: Is it Hackson?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: Is technically how it said from nineteen twenty two?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: What you're talking about?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, A lot of people pick that up strictly
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: out of curiosity, you know, thick box, let's let's check
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: this out. And you know, for people like me who
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: had already seen the movie, this was just that was
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: like the release. Okay, we got to get that. But
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: many people picked it up and that was the first
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: silent film they've ever seen, you know, and that movie
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: is incredible, like one of the most just disturbing creative experiences.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: You'll put yourself through for an hour and twenty minutes
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: and there's no dialogue, and it's incredible the images that
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: they were able to put on the screen. So I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: hope people are open to giving things like because I
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: think what the Silent ones are Hunchback and Notre Dame
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: Fanom of the Opera and Katine Canary and.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: The Man Who Laughs, and they're they're all incredible movies.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Man Who Laughs. The performance of Conrad Byite in that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: is just astounding. And Loon Cheney junior Blond Cheney senior
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: in Phantom and hunch and Hunchback is just next level,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Like this was a guy who did all his own
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: makeup and just really threw himself into his performances and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: contorted his body in ways that it could be you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: would think are inconceivable, and what the work he does
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: with even his facial expressions and everything and builds a character,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: whether a bit of Phantom or the Hunchback or anything
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: else he ever did, just like next level stuff, and
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: it's frightening, creepy stuff. One hundred years later it's legitimately
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: horrific stuff. Yeah.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, How do you guys recommend people approach this set?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Do you think people should go disc by disc since
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: it is kind of curated per disc or per thing?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: How do you how do you think how do you
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: think the best way for collectors to with the intentions
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: of diving into everything? What do you think is the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: best approaches it started this one and make your way
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: through or is there a certain.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: Seat? I think like that.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: I think ultimately the way I've curated it is that
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: that it's in a watchable disc by discorder. So you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: started the silent films. Part of me start at the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: silent films go because the Gothic horrors of the nineteen forties.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Then you bring in sort of the later Gothic horrors
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: as well, because they're all just kind of thematic. But
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: the way that's sort of curated is in a way
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: that you get to kind of go through the franchise
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: or through the history of the films from the Silence
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: right to the last radiation horror films. But they're also
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: built in a way that you can pick and choose
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: and go disc by disc and go, hey, I want
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: to watch some crazy big spider and some guy who
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: shrinks into like a little man. I'm going to watch
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: some of these crazy like cold war sci fis, and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: then hey, maybe I'll go back and watch some of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: the gothic horrors and then maybe work your way through
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: and then go back to the Silent films and see
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: where it all started. I don't think there's a right
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: or a wrong way to approach these films, and I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: think for most people they probably are going to pick
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: and choose and work their way through the franchise like that,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with that. And I think that's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: probably the way that most people have experienced these films
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: over the last hundred years is by bit and going, Wow,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: that was cool. Maybe I'll check out this one and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: that was cool. Maybe I'll check out this one, and
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: that they were all cool. Maybe let's go back to
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: the Silence. But the way it has been created is
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: that you can go disc by disc and get like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: a whole history and knowledge of the franchise from beginning
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: to end, and then you read all the wonderful pieces
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: that are in the book and you've got all the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: historical background that you could you could want to go
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: with it. So yeah, no right or wrong way to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: approach the set. They're all they're all really great movies.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: There's some like movies that are so bad that they're
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: good sort of towards the end. And even some of
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: the earlier stuff is a bit, you know, not so great,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: but there's some fantastic things in here. And then of
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: course we've got some of the big hitters like Bright
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: of Frankenstein or most of all the Frankenstein sequels I think,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: and House Yeah, House Sun Goes. We're missing one of
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: the Monster Rally films, We're missing most of the sequels.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: We've got most of the Invisible Man films in there
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: as well. So there's like a whole lot of great stuff.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: And that's why it's branded, you know, Monsters and Curiosities.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: That our whole aim was to kind of pull together
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: a box set of the B films. The curious films,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: and to sort of, I mean, Umbrella doesn't have the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: rights to a lot of the bigger ones there with
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: another distributor who have put out their own box sets
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: with those films, and Universal has released them ad nauseam
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: as well in their own box sets or the legacy sets,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: So most of the hardcore collectors have already got all
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: that stuff. So our main, our main focus on this
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: was to get these kind of curious films, these rarities
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: out to the collectors in this big box set. And then,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: I mean Umbrella already had the Frankenstein films. We had
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: a number of the sci fi era films already as well,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: so it was just a matter of going, hey, we've
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: already put them out before, where it's just going to
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: include them in the set. And in fact, you'll find
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: that a couple of the discs in here are actually
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: just reprints of old discs that have gone out before
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: of sci fi collections a few years ago, and they
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: did like an Invisible Man collection and a Brider Franken start.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: We've repurposed those discs. So also part of my job
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: was to try and fit them in to everything else.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: That worked out well, But yeah, so we just have
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: thrown in everything that we had and I think I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: think Umbrella had had the license over a lot of
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: this stuff for a long time, and it was it
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: was it was time for them to be able to go,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: let's take a risk and let's do something that might
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: be a little bit different than what we normally would.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: They don't put out a lot of classic cinema, but
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: because of the horror horror angle, they thought, hey, there's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: something in here, especially if we pull them all together
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: and put out what is And it's a big, kind
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: of expensive, elaborate release, but it's a budget release. I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: mean you've got seven When you break it down into
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Australian dollars, it's like five or six dollars a film
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: something like that. It's like so like dirt cheap. But
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: the love and care that's gone into this and the
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: packaging is going to be allo and it's gonna be
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: like a first class release. But we just wanted to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: get everything together and yeah, hopefully it's it pulls together. Okay,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: Well works.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I'm incredibly excited to get my hands on this, very
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: excited to get into it. You guys are gonna get
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: messages from me, and I'm gonna be like, it's been
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: seventy two hours.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: I'm on discorp.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mostly films are The films are bingeable too, and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: they're short. They're like sixty seventy minutes. Some of them,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: the longest ones probably two hours long. I think the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: early silent films are quite on the long side. But
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: then they're cheap. A lot of these movies would cheap
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: b movies that didn't cost them a lot of money,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: and then they could roll out on the sausage factory,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: you know. So a lot of them aren't, you know,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: the highest quality. They're not all the quality of Dracula
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: or Frankenstein or but they're all fun and you can
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: sit and again, I've curated them in a way that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: you can check in a disc and have a triple
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: feature or a double feature, you know, an easy couple
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: of two to three hours sitting in front of television
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: on a Friday night or a or a weekend and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: just binging through some horror movies. And they're also fun.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: It's so nice.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: Like the other night I watched The Mummies Ghosts and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, this movie is fifty eight minutes long,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: Like how nice is this? Yeah, two and a half
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: hour long slasher like we're getting these days.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: You know, now they click, they're breezy, they get to
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: the point. You've got some cool monsters. They killed a
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: bunch of people. And it's great stories as well. You know,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: we're familiar with the Stracula and the Frankenstein, and you
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: know the love stories at the heart of them, and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Phantom as well, and Hunchback, and you get a bit
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: of everything. You get some romance, you get some horror,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: you get some comedy in a lot of them, and
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of great drama. And they're all just really
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: good stories. So they're all they're all enjoyable and all
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: fun and the performances and we've got all those films
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: with Bela Lugosi and Boris Karloff and Lon Cheney, and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: there's films with Vincent Price and so many of these
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: great horror legends kind of come in and out of
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: these movies. And it's just in fact, if I can
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: find my booklet intro, I kind of talk about it. It's, oh,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know where it is, but yeah, all these
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: great all these oh yeah, Bella Lugo, Si, Boris Carlof
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Lon Cheney, Senior and Junior, Vincent Price, Claude Rains, and
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: then so many others kind of come in and out
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: as well. So it's it's really it's really a history
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: of horror films as well. I mean what we know
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: now as we Western horror or American horror all starts
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: with this stuff. Of course they build inspiration from the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: European stuff, but we're talking about like American horror films,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: this is where it begins, and all the all the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: iconic classic actors that you know, they're all they're all
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: in here. So it's yeah, I couldn't want anything else
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: anything more.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we I mean we've we've all talked about
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: it at some point, Like I think curating versus collecting.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: I think we all to a certain point, like we
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: curate and we want to have history on our shelves.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: And while it might not be stuff that we go
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: back to very often as much as some other titles,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: sometimes it's just as important to be able to, you know,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: have these titles available and there for you to grab
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: at any moment. That's what's most important, right And it's
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: like all those books behind you, you know, you're not
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: yearly reading every single one of those. You know, some
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: of those are just important and you're going to go
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: back to, you know, maybe five six years from now,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: and that I think that that's so important. Like there's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: stuff in I know my collection personally that there's some
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: stuff that I've said, like I'm probably never gonna watch again,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: but it holds an important piece of a history of
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: a genre that I just need to have it.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: It needs to be there.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: So if anybody ever comes over and is sick enough
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: to listen to me go on for hours about what
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: I collect, I can tell them Cannibal Holocaust is my
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: favorite film of all time, and I have Cannibal Pharaoh
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: that I'll never watch again, but I have to have that.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: You know, I totally get it. I think we're all
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: the same. My collection of films is twelve just plus
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: twelve thousand, so yeah, I'll pretty good collection of just
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: and it's the same thing. It's like, I'm gonna just
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of it is I'm just going to grab
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: this stuff because one day it's going to come in
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: handy and Yeah, winding up in a position like this,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I've got all the monster films, which
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: I've already watched, and hey, they're easily accessible. I've got
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: a Monster book up there, and I've got like Elsa
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Lancaster's autobiography where she writes about working on Brandon Frankenstein
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: and stuff like this that I can then pull resources
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: into whatever I'm working on here. I've worked on the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: the Dogma set and did an essay on Alan Rickman,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: and I've got his set of diaries that he wrote
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: that were published posthumously. There's like a bunch of written
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: diaries from when he was working on Dogma that I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: was able to incorporate into this piece. They wanted me
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: to write on Alan Rickman. And so I think collectors
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: like us we often get looked at as hoarders. And
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: I know I've got parts of books on the floor
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: and in tubs behind me and all of that stuff.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, there's it serves
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: a purpose and I think we're approving it. And given
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: you guys on the podcast, like there's going to be
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: stuff that comes up from distributors. We you go, hey,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: I've got another version of that, or hey, i've got
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: some film that's adjacent to that we can revisit it,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: or a book that has information on something that you're
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: covering and you can pull that in. So and Jacob,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I watch your stuff all the time. I don't know
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: I've ever told you, but I have followed you for
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: a long time and I watch your stuff all the time,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: and your knowledge is incredible, and I see you pull
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: in resources from everything that you've got there as well
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: in your stuff, and I think, yeah, and I'm really
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: happy that we get to do this and get to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: curate set like this and work on sets like this
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: and help be a part of that part of someone's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: collection that they can go to one day. And you
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: mentioned earlier there's so much information books that's not online.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Most of my researchers coming from books, because so much
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: of this stuff is just that. I mean, there's so
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: much stuff on the Internet, but so much of this
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: stuff is not there. You have so much information you
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: can't find. And when I do a history documentary like
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: this or the stuff I'm doing on YouTube, half the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: information I'm grabbing is from books and it's not on
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: the Internet. So it's all very it's all important. And
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: I think we're trying to do We're having fun, but
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: we're trying to do important work I think as well.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean even you know we read I
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: know that, I think it was I think the most
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: amount of books that I read for research was when
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: we were preparing for Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: I think I read four.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: Books and then sleep Away Camp was two leading up
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: to that. And you try to pull, you know, as
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: much as you can from Luckily, books are there are
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: books coming out every day about genre stuff or individual
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: films or kind of things going back and you're getting
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: different points of views, and you know, people of different
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: age gaps discovering movies and then writing about them. So
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: luckily you can pretty much go on Amazon now and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: look up most films and find some sort of written
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: material on it, or if not now you will eventually.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: You know, we're in that stage and it's it's so
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: much fun, man, and it's it's work.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Sometimes we kind of like, look at we're in the
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: middle of research now for we're doing a commentary episode
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: on Event Horizon, and it's like, I have eighteen tabs
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: open right now of Reddit forums about this.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: Director's cut, you know what I mean.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: It's like and none of the information is official because
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: you have Paul ws Anderson being like, yeah, it was
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: like five minutes of hell footage that we cut, and meanwhile, Redd,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: it's like there's an hour and a.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: Half of footage missing.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: Whereas so yeah, diving into it and going further and
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: further and it's it's all out there. You just got
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: to pull it out and find it, you know. Yeah,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: before we before we start wrapping up, Man, any questions
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: that you want to throw in or anything that you've
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: been thinking anything additionally you think we got to cover.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: I mean for you guys, obviously, you know, you guys
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 7: are very well versed in film. I mean during this
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 7: entire experience, was there kind of like a pinch me
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 7: moment that you guys had, Like I think for being
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: film enthusiasts that you just felt like it was kind
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 7: of like two good to be true type moments for
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 7: you guys putting this this set together.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: Okay, I would just say when I initially saw the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: list of movies, and back when I started, it was
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: just twenty movies, Like when that list just multiplied more
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: or less, like what happened. I didn't have these options
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: to give my thoughts on supplemental materials on these, but
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: just the fact of I was able to dig into
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: universal history and just anytime I can talk film theory
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: with anybody, I get giddy about it. Like it is
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: work and you do have to put your time, in
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: resources and research into it. But I enjoyed every single
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: second of it. And just the fact that I'm able
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: to do this and it's able to get put out
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: on a physical media release. It's just it's for me.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: It's one of the best feelings in the world.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so cool. I think similar for me.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been trying to I mean why
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: it can be the umbrella to try and work on
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: some of their stuff for a while and just never
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: just lined up. There's been a couple of things where
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: they wanted to bring me on and it just never
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: happened for whatever reason. And this year they were just like, hey,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: look it might be time for you to come in
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: and have a chat with us. And I didn't expect
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: a lot to come from it. I just went in
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: and thought, Okay, I'll contribute to a few pieces and
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: there's a few things I mentioned, and then I was like, hey,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: we're you doing this Universal Monster's box set as well?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: That you might be interested it was like, hang on
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: a minute, like my first my first project was the
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: biggest and Umbrella.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then just sort of the way it was
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: like initially, you know, I'm just working on a video
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: for it, and I didn't really hear from them for
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: a couple of months, and then they're find like, all right,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: you may as well start on this. We're going ahead.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: And then the way it just sort of was like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: I wound up curating it, and then I wound up
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: co producing it along with Umbrella, and then on the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: back of that, hey, you might be interested in Dogma
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: and you might be interested in this. And then perhaps
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: on like maybe a smaller level, there's some Australian stuff
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: that I'm working on that I'm really passionate about, our homegrown,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: homegrown cinema that perhaps hasn't had you know, the best,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: you know, hasn't been received as well over the years.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: And I've just I just finished up producing a release
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: which was my first like solo producer release for a
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: film called Looking for Ala Brandy, which came out in
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: the early two thousands and is about second generation Italian
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Australian girl from an Italian family immigrated to Australian in
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: the sixties and that's my cultural heritage. And this is
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: like a film that I was able to throw myself
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: into and put together a huge box set for as well.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: And just the whole thing has been like all this
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: stuff that's landing on me. And there's a few things
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: I'm working on now that I can't talk about. One
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: of them that Jake's on is like how are we
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: how are we getting to work on this stuff? It's
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: like official product. And at the moment of seeing the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: box set with the Universal Studios logo on it, being like, hey,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: we're not just having fun. We're not just knucking around
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: with friends and Google uff and putting together a cool
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: box set and putting together and write and stuff, and
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: we're putting together stuff that the studio has gone that's okay,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: we'll let you put that out as a product. Because
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, evening has to be approved
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: by the licenser. And again in this case, Universal being
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: the studio, they thoroughly went through everything we did, all
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: the videos or everything that we needed to make sure
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: there was nothing in there questionable or that brought a
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: bad reputation to the studio or any of the actors
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: or any of this, which is why it talked it's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: such a long time to get everything going, and that
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: approvals process was a little bit longer than normal. So
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: at the end when they go everything's okay, we'll slam
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: out studio logo on there and let you guys put
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: it out, it's like, that's that's the pinch me moment.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, we're actually doing some stuff that means something.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: I think, so, oh yeah, that's incredible. Well, I'm proud
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: of you guys forgetting that moment, and I can't thank
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: you enough for the opportunity to talk about this stuff,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: put it out on the podcast and just kind of
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: get it out to the public and hopefully, you know,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: people find this and can a gain a new excitement
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: for this set if they didn't if it wasn't on
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: a radar already. But most importantly, I think leave this
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: episode with a better understanding of kind of the behind
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: the scenes and the work and the effort that goes in,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: which I think is most important.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: So we can't thank you guys enough.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: Can't thank on looking us, you know, for being allowing
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: you to be as open as possible and letting letting
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: our show be the platform to do that on you know,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: that's that's incredibly you know, fulfilling and exciting for both
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: of us to do.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: For sure.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: We can't thank you guys enough for this.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having us on and letting giving
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: us the platform to be able to talk about this
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: that we haven't really even I've been biting my tongue
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: a bit and I finally went to and look is
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: a podcast that wants me to go on and chat?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Can we talk about this stuff? And are like, it's
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: probably best we just don't dance around the issue. And
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I get it from their point of view, Like you
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: see the comments they get and it's hard for them
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: to deal with and they can't like apply to every
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: comment and they can't, you know, there's certain things they
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: can say and certain things they can't say, and I
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: mean people don't not everyone quite understands that. But for
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: them to allow us to have this platform is awesome
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: as well. And I will say that they've been amazing
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: to work for and anyone who's an Umbrella fan like
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: this is the best. These guys are just so cool.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: They let us do our thing. They don't look over
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: your shoulder and say what are you doing? Or it's like,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: go and do your thing. We trust you, and then
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: bring it back to us by a deadline and then
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: if some guys to come to you and go, hey,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: cut that out of your video. So they've been amazing
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: to work for. They're such a cool team. And for me,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: I'm in Melbourne, so I'm like half an hour away
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: from their offices and I go in there and have
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: meetings with them and chat with them and talk ideas,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: and I can bring ideas to them from other people.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: And you know, people come to me with stuff that
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: they want to see and it's stuff I can take
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: to them. I feel really good in that. And same
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: with Jake being able to pull in people that I
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: know who I think deserve a spotlight and deserve this
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: to be able to work on this stuff. They've said
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: to me, we're happy for you to collaborate with whoever
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: you want to collaborate with. And so for me to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: be able to not only collaborate with people who they
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: regularly work with, but also bringing from other people that
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I know that I think will be suited to the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: jobs as well as just it's so cool. So they're
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: amazing and yeah, and it's great to see them getting
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: so much great support, and I do think a release
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: like this is gonna push them even further out. And
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Jake will agree that it's just to be
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: involved in that release is something special, really special.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: It's very cool. Umbrella has had some pretty big landmark
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: physical media releases, whether it be like the Super Mario
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: Brothers or Freaked. I feel like this is just the
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: next step in that evolution of just the quality of
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: releases that they continue to put out. I feel honored
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: to be in a release like this, and yeah, I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: thanks for having us on so we would finally be
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: able to have a platform to talk about what has
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: happened in this release, because a lot of juice I
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: feel like has just been squeezed here. And this is
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: why therapy session here, you guys.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll just the beginning. I'm sure they will
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: be fine with me saying, but it's the beginning of
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: them sort of pushing the boundaries and getting stuff out
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: there that maybe wouldn't be expected. Of course, they got
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: so much great stuff that you would expect, but every
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: now and then we're going to try and push and
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: there's some really cool stuff I'm working on now with them,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: consulting on with them, where we're trying to push boundaries
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: and get more stuff out there. So we got a
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: really cool year ahead and further we're looking into twenty
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: twenty seven already.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: So yeah, oh wow, yeah, yeah, Well listen man, I'm
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: I know we're both very excited for what's to come
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: with the Gorilla.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: Can't thank you guys enough for doing this.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Just real quick, I want to give individual spotlight, Jake,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: just let the audience know kind of where they can
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: find you if there's anything that you want to you know,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: direct people to socially, like, just just let people know.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: Steel Book obsessed on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, My posts
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: every day over there. And then I actually have a
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: production on a physical media release for Umbrella coming out
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: in the next month. I helped produce The Dirties with
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: Matt Johnson. Has a movie coming out now and durban
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: At the band showed the movie. This is his directoral
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: debut about a school shooting comedy like two things that
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: should not blend together, but magics do. And I'm very
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 6: thrilled to be a part of that project and have
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: more eyeball see it because I think it's a very
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: brilliant movie, very understcene too.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, incredible. Man, can't wait to see that. And Dave,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: what about you, man? What do you want to push?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: Where can people find you on the socials and stuff?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: You can find it Davely down Under on YouTube, Instagram, socials, whatever.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not posting as much on YouTube at the moment
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: as it was my full time gig for like ten years,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: but now I'm really focusing on this stuff I'm doing
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: with Umbrella at the moment and putting some videos out
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: here and there. I'm pretty active on socials and so yeah,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: Davely down Under and then I'm yeah, of course producing
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff for Umbrella. So the Monsters is
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: the next one, and then looking for Ala BRANDI comes
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: out the Actually that's the next one that comes out
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: next month, and then Monsters is out in April, and
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: then I reckon, We're going to announce something really cool
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: probably in the next couple of months. And then I've
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of stuff on my plate that is
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: just some really cool stuff. So yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: You got me anxious and excited.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like I'm just looking at my list of like
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: I've got like a deadline's list of like I'm working on,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: and it's like, this is my deadline and I have
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: to like just figure out what I'm putting my time on.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: And I'm putting my time on probably a big release
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: at the moment, which is which is fun. It's been
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: a trip to work on. So yeah, awesome and cool
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: interviews and stuff on some of these sets. I think
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: we announced that I spoke with Elijah Wood for a
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: couple of releases. We've got into Roseburn on an upcoming release,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: and some others I can't talk about. But yeah, we've
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: got some cool stuff like stuff lined up.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a bit of an oddball comment, but here's me
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: hoping that Umbrother is going to give us a good
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: release of Come the Daddy with Elijah Wood from a couple.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Of years ago. Have they do have the license to that? Likely?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Well, look at that. I just existence with immediate results.
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  Speaker 4: As always, Steve Man, where can people find you at?
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  Speaker 7: You guys can find me after hours video ours is
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  Speaker 7: abbreviated I'm on YouTube, Instagram, you name it, and I'll
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  Speaker 7: eagerly be anticipating in the days till the Monsters and
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  Speaker 7: Curiosities box that comes out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And as always, you guys can find me
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  Speaker 4: on Instagram at Bearded film Guy. Always hear it beyond
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  Speaker 4: the blood, you know. Thank you for hanging out. Thank
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  Speaker 4: you to you guys, both you, Jake and Dave.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you a huge thank you to Umbrella.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you as well for letting us put this together.
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  Speaker 4: And we'll see you guys on the next episode.
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