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INTERVIEW: Bubba Wallace On Responsibility As A Black NASCAR Driver, Robinhood, Scrapping On The Track + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ en Vy, Jess Hilarious, Charlemagne to God.
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  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. He got some special guests
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  Speaker 2: in the building. We have Bubba Wallace and Steve Quirk.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome fellas another.
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  Speaker 3: Day man, Bubba, How does it feel?
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  Speaker 4: And I know you get this all the time, but
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  Speaker 4: how does it feel being the first black NASCAR drive?
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say the first, the first in a while? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: oh you aren't the first, No, When of Scott.
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  Speaker 5: Was the he opened the door for all of us,
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  Speaker 5: and so I've been the first to win since him
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  Speaker 5: got yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Along it with him?
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  Speaker 7: It was the sixties, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Right, So it's it's been a really cool journey, lots
• 0:46
  Speaker 5: up and downs. Uh, you know, being a being in
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  Speaker 5: a Cup series for eight years now has been I've
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  Speaker 5: learned a lot, I've grown a lot. I've got a
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  Speaker 5: couple of gray hairs in my beard from from I
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  Speaker 5: guess every year that I've been in that. I'd say
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  Speaker 5: every race I've been in the Cups. But it's a
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  Speaker 5: it's humbling no one that there's not many of us there,
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  Speaker 5: but you know I'm leading the way for a generation
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  Speaker 5: that that is paying attention. You have a following and
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  Speaker 5: a demographic that wants to be a part of the sport.
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  Speaker 7: It's it's cool to be at the front of that.
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  Speaker 6: How did you get into race?
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  Speaker 7: Card?
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  Speaker 6: Driving?
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  Speaker 5: Started when I was a kid in go karts. My
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  Speaker 5: dad had to go cart and he raced a couple
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  Speaker 5: of times. He flipped all three times. I have yet
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  Speaker 5: to flip in my careers.
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  Speaker 6: H knock all.
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  Speaker 5: But my dad got us started and he invited to
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  Speaker 5: come out. He told us to come out and watch
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  Speaker 5: a family friend of ours, and just sitting in the stands,
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  Speaker 5: became a fan.
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  Speaker 1: That way, I want to go kart.
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  Speaker 7: And went racing.
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  Speaker 8: Where the name Bubba come from?
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  Speaker 5: My sister, Yes, we don't know why she won't. She
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  Speaker 5: said she didn't have a speech impediment. She just decided
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  Speaker 5: to call me Bubba. So she's five years older than.
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  Speaker 1: Me and it's stuck ever since.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it was confusing at the racetrack, right because I'm
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  Speaker 5: a junior. So hey, Darryl, my dad would turn around
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  Speaker 5: and they were trying to get in touch with me.
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  Speaker 5: So we were just like, let's let's go with Bubba.
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  Speaker 5: It makes it easier and it's fun. Everybody's a bubble,
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  Speaker 5: especially now, so a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's yeah, do you so you embrace the responsibility
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  Speaker 4: of being you know, the I guess, are you.
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  Speaker 1: The only black man drive at the cup level?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you embrace the responsibility of being that person
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  Speaker 4: at the forefront generation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got we got some youth coming up.
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  Speaker 5: We got Rajah Caruz coming up through in the truck series,
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  Speaker 5: and it's it's fun being a mentor to him and
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  Speaker 5: the others coming through. And yeah, I sense a responsibility
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  Speaker 5: there to you know, carry myself the right way but
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  Speaker 5: also show that, you know, I'm here to stay and
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  Speaker 5: and and make a name for myself as well.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, you know, the only way to.
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  Speaker 5: Create boundaries is to cross them and figure out, you know,
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  Speaker 5: what to do what not to do. So I've made
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  Speaker 5: some mistakes along the way, but it's shaped me and
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  Speaker 5: helped me to become who I am today.
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  Speaker 6: M hm.
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  Speaker 5: And so, you know, off track, on track stuff has
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  Speaker 5: been phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: I could say this this whole year.
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  Speaker 5: Are out really really strong force and nothing nothing's better
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  Speaker 5: than winning. So it's been a while since I've been
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  Speaker 5: in victory lane, but it's not for a lack of effort.
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  Speaker 6: How difficult? I'm sorry? What got in North Carolina? Are
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  Speaker 6: you from Charlotte? Big? That was big?
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  Speaker 1: Growing up like racetar?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so like I grew up fifteen minutes from the racetrack,
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  Speaker 5: so all the race teams were all within the thirty
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  Speaker 5: minute radius of each other.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to ask, how difficult was it because
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  Speaker 2: coming up there wasn't too many of us in the stands.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's not too many of us in the
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  Speaker 2: stands now, but there was way less in the stands,
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  Speaker 2: So how difficult was it? I'm sure you had to
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  Speaker 2: face racism of the drivers of teams, and how difficult
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  Speaker 2: was fighting through that?
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, my my mom was my parents, both my parents,
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  Speaker 5: but my mom was, you know, the driving force behind
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  Speaker 5: of just never given.
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  Speaker 7: The media any negative to talk about. Right. Well I
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  Speaker 7: failed at that a couple of.
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  Speaker 5: Times, but she was always just keeping me aware of
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  Speaker 5: the said scenarios, right and and for me, though I
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  Speaker 5: grew up in a well diverse community and did it
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  Speaker 5: and see color still don't and it just didn't didn't
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  Speaker 5: matter to me. So when I jumped into it, there
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  Speaker 5: was I think two of us that that were of color.
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  Speaker 5: And Benny Mingo he actually works at our race shop now,
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  Speaker 5: so it's crazy how he works on a race cars.
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  Speaker 1: But it was just the two of us and didn't
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  Speaker 1: bother me one bit.
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  Speaker 5: You know, growing up, you know, the higher you you
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  Speaker 5: got in the rankings, the better you got, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the faster the cars.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was the only one and still didn't
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  Speaker 1: bother me. I all I cared about was winning.
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  Speaker 5: And it sounds like a very just cliche, typical, straight
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  Speaker 5: line answer, but I didn't give a damn right and
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  Speaker 5: I still don't because at the end of day, we're
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  Speaker 5: all human beings and that's that's how I view each other.
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  Speaker 5: And we just happen to be a little bit darker
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  Speaker 5: than others, and that's okay. But if you treat each
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  Speaker 5: other with respect, then you demand that respect back and
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  Speaker 5: and if they can't give that back, then they're not
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  Speaker 5: the people for you. So that's how I've kind of
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  Speaker 5: viewed life and have enjoyed life no matter what's thrown
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  Speaker 5: at us.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you would you being a by racial right,
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  Speaker 4: whenever you feel when people come at you for being black,
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  Speaker 4: do you ever be like, well, I'm white.
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  Speaker 5: Too, halfway in yeah, I mean you have to kind
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  Speaker 5: of balance both hats really, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have a black side in my family,
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  Speaker 1: have a white side in my family.
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  Speaker 7: And so.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 6: Where do you go for Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 7: That's a good I like to stay home. Now. I
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  Speaker 7: ain't got to do nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Damn, you put me on the spot. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: know I have to go with my sister.
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  Speaker 7: I have to go with my sister.
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  Speaker 1: The black side of family.
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  Speaker 3: Is definitely good.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think just you know, trying to just walk
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  Speaker 5: both past and can be tiring it sometimes because I
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  Speaker 5: just want to walk down the middle.
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  Speaker 7: But it's just never that easy.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes, before we get to you're dealing with Steve, I
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  Speaker 2: want to ask how many people come up to you
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  Speaker 2: and try to race you in the street when you
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  Speaker 2: have a drive And that happened a lot.
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  Speaker 1: No, because I have tent on my windows so you
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  Speaker 1: can't see who's yeah, and you able.
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  Speaker 6: To get crazy on the street. Sometimes you just like, no.
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  Speaker 5: I don't waste time though, So if we got to
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  Speaker 5: drive to the grocery store, I'll I know how to
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  Speaker 5: get to the grocery store, but I'll plug it in
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  Speaker 5: the GPS to see which ways the fastest way and
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  Speaker 5: to see if I can get there faster of course.
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  Speaker 1: Really, actually it's been.
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  Speaker 5: A long long time and I can say I've I've
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  Speaker 5: been I've been pulled over, you know, twenty twenty somethingtimes.
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  Speaker 1: It only gotten like three tickets.
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  Speaker 6: It's the white side.
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  Speaker 9: It was because you recognize that's what I was going
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  Speaker 9: with Steve Coirk with Robin Hood.
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  Speaker 6: So what's your relationship with Robin Hood.
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  Speaker 5: It's just starting out so excited for the partnership that
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  Speaker 5: we just announced to be a part of twenty three
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  Speaker 5: eleven and sponsoring myself and Corey him and a couple
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  Speaker 5: of Cup races this year.
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  Speaker 7: So you know, hats off to.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody at Air Speed on the marketing side of the
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  Speaker 5: things to bring in new sponsors to the sport. So
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  Speaker 5: let's be the first time that Robin Hood is a
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  Speaker 5: part of our sport and this sort of capacity and
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  Speaker 5: it's special so it's fast paced so they can keep up.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's our first national sponsorship of sports. We have
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  Speaker 9: a couple NBA teams that we sponsor.
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  Speaker 6: The people that don't know what Robinhood is and what
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  Speaker 6: they do. Yeah, yeah, let me let me quickly explain.
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  Speaker 9: So Robinhood Basic we have about twenty five million customers
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  Speaker 9: and Robinhood is a it's an investing app, and what
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  Speaker 9: we've been largely credited with is bringing twenty five million young,
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  Speaker 9: very diverse, first time investors into the marketplace. So in
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  Speaker 9: the US we're sitting close to sixty percent of US
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  Speaker 9: households now are invested in the market. That's that's the
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  Speaker 9: envy of the world. It's like twenty percent in Asia
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  Speaker 9: or Europe or other places. And what we did is
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  Speaker 9: just remove the friction. So if you have five dollars,
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  Speaker 9: if you have ten dollars, you can invest.
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  Speaker 7: We removed all.
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  Speaker 9: The friction, made it very easy for people to have
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  Speaker 9: access to the greatest wealth creation vehicle in the world.
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  Speaker 9: So as important as it is for you to make money,
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  Speaker 9: you have to put that money to work, and we've
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  Speaker 9: made that really accessible for young people.
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  Speaker 2: My kids have Robinhood and it's very accessible. They know
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  Speaker 2: how to use it, they invest in it. They're not
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  Speaker 2: investing a lot of money, but five dollars and dollar
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  Speaker 2: it's a start for them at a young But it
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  Speaker 2: used to.
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  Speaker 9: Like the whole system used to be kind of really
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  Speaker 9: kind of inaccessible for young people because you had to
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  Speaker 9: wait till you got you this amount of money to
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  Speaker 9: be able to do it, and so really by the
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  Speaker 9: time you got around to investing, it was a little
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  Speaker 9: bit too late. The second component that we're really really
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  Speaker 9: strongly focused on is it's one thing to give them access,
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  Speaker 9: but it's another thing to make sure that they do
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  Speaker 9: it in a way that's going to be sustainable and
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  Speaker 9: that they're going to have a good investing career. So
• 8:55
  Speaker 9: we do a lot in the way of education, both
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  Speaker 9: within our site and the app, but also we go
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  Speaker 9: out to universities. We have a bunch of university programs
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  Speaker 9: where we help people understand the importance of doing this
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  Speaker 9: in a suitable manner, and then we give them access
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  Speaker 9: to all of this and provide them with curriculum. And
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  Speaker 9: then we have a newsletter that goes out every morning
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  Speaker 9: to we have forty million people subscribed, basically describes the
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  Speaker 9: day's news and then if there's something within that news
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  Speaker 9: that could be an investable opportunity for them.
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  Speaker 3: What's your vetting process?
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  Speaker 4: But when it comes to like who you choose to
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  Speaker 4: take on as.
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  Speaker 1: The sponsor, I was just willing to pay, let's go
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  Speaker 1: what happened? I mean, hey, I come.
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  Speaker 5: From I remember, man, we were doing about anything just
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  Speaker 5: to get anybody to spend a buck, right.
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  Speaker 7: And so it's a tough sport to be a.
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  Speaker 5: Part of it and want to invest in two and
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  Speaker 5: for new companies to come into the sport and not.
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  Speaker 1: Know which ways up, down, left or right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I would be hesitant as well, and so
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  Speaker 5: and taking a risk on a kid that's trying to
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  Speaker 5: find his way through the Cup Series. But I feel
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  Speaker 5: like now we've established ourselves, established our name, you know,
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  Speaker 5: within the race team, within the sport, it makes it
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  Speaker 5: easier for companies that want to be in part of
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  Speaker 5: our journey.
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  Speaker 7: And yeah, you got you're associated with MJ.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, no, how was that? MJ is a coal owner,
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  Speaker 6: So how is he as a co owner? Do you
• 10:16
  Speaker 6: speak much? Do you talk much? Do you I play
• 10:18
  Speaker 6: one on one basketball?
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  Speaker 1: How is it not the basketball piece?
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  Speaker 5: He taught me if if I know I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 5: into something and lose and not don't compete at all.
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  Speaker 1: So he won't jump into a race car, I won't
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  Speaker 1: jump on the basketball court.
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  Speaker 7: And so m J is super involved.
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  Speaker 5: Uh And and it might be a shock to a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people, and I think it was for me
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  Speaker 5: to start, because you think of somebody as as as
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  Speaker 5: big as MJ that he can be doing anything else
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  Speaker 5: that he wants with his time and his money. He
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  Speaker 5: has a strong passion for NASCAR. He's been a fan.
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  Speaker 1: He's watched even before he became a team owner.
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  Speaker 5: He was a kid going to the races Darlington, uh Talladega, Charlotte.
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  Speaker 5: He was going all these places with his family grown up,
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  Speaker 5: and so he's always had a strong knack for for
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  Speaker 5: NASCAR and what it provides. And so now him being invested,
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  Speaker 5: it's game over. He's he's watching each and every weekend,
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  Speaker 5: whether he's here or overseas, whatever he's doing. I have
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  Speaker 5: a text before and after the race every weekend.
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  Speaker 3: What did he say? I lost some money betting.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's always encouraging. He's always he's a glass half
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  Speaker 5: full guy. No matter how rough the day gets. He's
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  Speaker 5: always searching for the positives. And so it's helped me
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  Speaker 5: grow up a lot in a short amount of time.
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  Speaker 4: What about you, Steve? What made y'all want to say?
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  Speaker 4: You know what NASCAR is where we want to spend
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  Speaker 4: that money?
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  Speaker 9: Well, if we look at our customers, they're very into sports,
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  Speaker 9: but they're if we just look at a robin Hood
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  Speaker 9: versus a non Robinhood customer, they're four times more likely
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  Speaker 9: they're into motorsports, particularly NASCAR, and so this gives us
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  Speaker 9: broad exposure you know, nationally as well, which I think
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  Speaker 9: is very positive. And they just you know, they're as
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  Speaker 9: passionate about their sports as they are about their investing.
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  Speaker 9: So they tie together pretty nicely.
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  Speaker 4: Got you with the har of you to get sponsitships buble,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, you always hear the stories about Serena Wiams.
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  Speaker 4: Even though she was dominant you know inten is full
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  Speaker 4: period of time her Aan Venus, it was hard for
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  Speaker 4: them to get sponsorships.
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  Speaker 3: People just didn't feel like they were marketable. Was it
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  Speaker 3: the same for you?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 5: You know, we look at the sport and the personalities
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  Speaker 5: that you have within the side of our sport, and
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  Speaker 5: there's there's a select few, and I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 5: near the top of the list of just being uh
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  Speaker 5: personable and likable despite all the BS that goes on.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna tell you how I feel, and
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  Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of us inside of our
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  Speaker 5: sport are very straight edged and cookie cutter, right, And
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  Speaker 5: that's that's okay. You don't want to show your true
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  Speaker 5: colors and show your cards. You keep that in your
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  Speaker 5: personal life, that's fine. But for me, I've always just
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  Speaker 5: been trying. I tried to be super relatable to everybody
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  Speaker 5: I meet, uh and and make a lasting impression, uh
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  Speaker 5: to to eventually have the investments come in and the
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  Speaker 5: funding come in. And it seemed like nothing we ever
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  Speaker 5: did would would work. And for whatever reason that is, uh,
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  Speaker 5: it was what it was. But it never stopped me
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  Speaker 5: from pursuing what I wanted to do and fighting hard.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Now I look at the people that potentially said no,
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  Speaker 5: we're good and just laugh because we're't a good spot.
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  Speaker 2: Now, what does the sport have to do to increase, right,
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  Speaker 2: because it's I feel like it's been in that same
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  Speaker 2: spot for a long time and it hasn't really grown
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  Speaker 2: as I thought it would.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think it needs to do?
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  Speaker 1: I need to win.
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  Speaker 7: M there you go.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the easiest way to go about it.
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  Speaker 7: I need to win.
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  Speaker 5: You look at I mean, golf didn't really change too
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  Speaker 5: too much, you know, but Tiger was dominant right uh,
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  Speaker 5: and created a lot of buzz. But I've only had
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  Speaker 5: two wins in my eight years and being in cups,
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  Speaker 5: so to me, that's unacceptable. So the way that we've
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  Speaker 5: been performing this year, uh, last year races finished in third,
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  Speaker 5: two spots away from from doing just that.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll take full responsibility and helping that.
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  Speaker 6: Fault is it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it the car?
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  Speaker 6: Because is it call driving?
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: As a driver, you never blame yourself, so it's always
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  Speaker 1: somebody else's faults.
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  Speaker 7: So that's just how drivers operate.
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  Speaker 5: But it takes a it takes a whole team to
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  Speaker 5: win races, and man, it's tough. You're the next level
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  Speaker 5: after cup level is retirement. So it's the hardest thing
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  Speaker 5: that you'll ever do in forms of motorsports, in the
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  Speaker 5: form of the path that we're on. And so the
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  Speaker 5: guys you're going against I have been doing it. Denny
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  Speaker 5: he won the second co owner or other boss he
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  Speaker 5: won Sunday, but he's been in the sport for twenty
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  Speaker 5: years and so I'm my eighth year.
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  Speaker 7: So it's just experience takes over.
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  Speaker 5: But it takes a car, it takes a crew chief,
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  Speaker 5: it takes the driver, it takes pit crew and just
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: a lot of luck to get these things, you know,
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: in the right way.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: This could be a stupid question. I don't know.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: How do you know that certain people on the on
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: the team might not be sabotaging you though, just because
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: for you know, it might be mad as you Yeah,
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: the Confederate flag.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we we have a good process and knowing like
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: basically feeding out the bullshit, right and you know, you
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: have to show up ready to work. And as simple
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: as I think, you look at who the owners are,
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: MJ and Denny. They care about winning, and they care
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: about doing it with integrity, and if you don't have that,
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: then it's it's it's it's game over for them. So
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: we don't have to worry about that. And I never
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: really have.
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: Who's the toughest driver?
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: You have a faced and why? And in Nascar is
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: it like that? Like you know, as a basketball you
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: can say this is the toughest opponent. In hockey, this
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: is the toughest baseball, this is the toughest.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: It's different. It's it's different in regards of the tracks
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that we go to.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: You know, for example, Denny had won this weekend and
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: this is in Martinsville, which is one of his best tracks,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: and so when you show up to said track, it's
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: like who's the guy to beat? That's how you look
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: at it. So it's always different throughout the throughout the circle,
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: throughout the year, So I can't pinpoint it to one.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Who's the biggest asshole? That also changes to depends on.
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: The mood that we're in.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: What's your what's your favorite track? Favorite track? Martinsville is
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: one of them. So Bristol's coming up here in two weeks.
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: That's another good one.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Mostly all the short tracks, but also the ones we've
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: won on too, So Tallada and Kansas are good.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Y'all get scrapping sometimes, y'all, y'all fight on that on
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: those tracks.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Sometimes yeah yeah, And and it's you know, you feel
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: like you're you're you're you're done wrong because I go
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: back to the respect thing. You show up with respect,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: you you man respect and return and and sometimes you
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: feel like you're shorted or you're done wrong. And for
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: whatever reason. You know, when I'm done wrong and I retaliate,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: it's it's the world's end, and uh all I'm doing
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: And when I when I was grown up, you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: being taught is you just get even.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm just getting even, like, oh, okay, we're good.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: We can shake hands after the fact.
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: We're good now. But massive deal.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Y'all get suspended after y'all get into a fight, because
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I remember you got into a fight a couple of
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: Did you get suspended? Is there any penalties or anything?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: No, Well, the the rules are constantly changing. You know.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I got suspended for right re're hooking somebody, which basically
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: a pit maneuver, and rightfully so, because it's happened to
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: me twice throughout my career.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: And explain what that is. I'm lost like.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: A pittmaneuver, like somebody turns into you on your right rear,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: spins you out and like it's a it's a the
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: opposing car that you've done it too, is you just
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: turned them right head on into the wall and it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: a high rate of speed, Yeah, kind of, and so
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: versus like hook them in the left rear, like they
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: kind of just go spinning throughout the infield and kind
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: of get it gathered back up.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: So it's happened to.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Me twice in my career, and it's the most I'd
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: say one of the most disrespectful things you can do.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: And I found myself stooped down to that level and
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: commit the same deal. But the guy had just come
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: up to me and run me up in the wall
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: and was like, Oh, we're just gonna go on about
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: our day.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: No, no, no no.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: They said that you did it on purpose.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: That's what they say.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: So people are gonna always talk and have their opinions
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: and that it is what it is. But I regret
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: doing that. I can say that truthfully, and we've moved
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: on past that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: But as far as fighting, no, Because.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: One, it's we're entertainment business and so it's good, good
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: for entertainment. But you're quick to jump in, so you
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: have to, uh have to be methodical about how you
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: want to go about it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Isn't it a matter of life and death? Whe you
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: out there give one hundred plus miles for hour like
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Our safety has come a long way, so you don't
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: think of it in that sort of fashion.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But you know, all it takes is one wrong move.
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: So do you want to raise Denny Hamley?
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: Do I want to?
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Do you want to? Yeah?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: Because he was he was asked about you. He asked
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: what you need to do to beat him. And when
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: your first racing nearly two years and he said, you
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: have a decision to make. If you need to make
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: more speed on a corner exit, you must sacrifice something
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: else somewhere. You can't just put the throttle down and
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: get more speed on exit. It's an approach thing. Maybe
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: you need to slow up your sensor a little bit more.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Do you agree with him?
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Do you know what that means?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: No?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Right, you're here now you have to explain that.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So that's just attacking the corners.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Uh So the exit exit of the corner versus the
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: center of the corner versus the entry of the corner.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: There's a there's ways to approach every corner differently. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: you know, it goes back to the experience Den He's
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: been at these racetracks for twenty years as to where
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I'm figuring it out still, so he kind of has
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: a better feeling, uh for what to expect on entry
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: in the center to set him up for a better
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: exit as to where I'm just like, I'm gonna send
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: it off in there and figure it out. So it's uh,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: it definitely takes a lot of time and a lot
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: of seat time. A lot of just skill and management
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: and having the right people around you.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Quote for you, Bubba, and to ask you too, what
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: do you consider the most rewarding aspect of the work
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: in the racing world, especially if if you not winning
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: and you steve, what's the benefit of the invisibility of
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: what was that win?
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: I would say the last three years I've really taken
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: it upon myself of trying different things, but putting in
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: the work and putting in the effort. And it seemed
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: like the last two years, the previous two years, it
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: didn't matter what I did it kind of ended up
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: in the same results. And so this year I kind
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: of didn't flip the script. I said, we're gonna you know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: started working out better, started eating better, you know, doing
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: all the necessary things, paying attention to my sleep, all
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: these types of things, and the results are are starting
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: to show up quicker. And so the rewarding thing is
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: is knowing that you can pour your heart and soul
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: into something and when it doesn't work out the way
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: you want it, then a lot of self doubt creeps
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: in because you take it for me, I take it
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: up all my shoulders, like, well, damn, I guess I'm
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: not good enough. But then you see others that are
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: doing half the job but getting it done.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And so it's like, well, damn, what's the scenario I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: need to put myself in.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I think it comes down to just trusting the p
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: and I've realized that, and I've said this recently a
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: lot that your timeline is going to be either quicker
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: or slower than mine, and that's okay, that's how we're built.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: We have to appreciate the scenario that we're in for
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: ourselves and work on self and continuing to do that,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: because that's at the end of the day, that's that's
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: all you got.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: When you get into what about you, what's like what's
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the benefit of a like what's the rewarding aspect of
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: the work that Bubba doing in the racing world if he's.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: If he's not winning for robin.
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: Hood, I would say it, well, it starts really with
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: the think about robin Hood and the mission. And you
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: know what we're all aligned on, which is helping helping
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: a younger, more diverse group of people have access to
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: financial services in the in what that creates, and that's
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: why we're very aligned with twenty three eleven. And of
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: course this I can say this because I'm a little older.
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: This is a very impressive young man here, I mean
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: extremely impressive. And we're completely aligned in seeing success, not
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: only from twenty three eleven, but of course from from Bubba.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask when you get into those car wrecks, right,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you get a call from MJ.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: And he's not like Bubba, another car.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: How much of those calls costs to the place, and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: do you fix those calls?
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: You just totally get a new call.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: It's uh, it's circumstantial.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Like if you cause the wreck and you're you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: and it becomes like a repeated offense, then it's like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: all right, what are we doing? But a lot of
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: the wrecks that you know, I've been a part of,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: like I can truthfully say it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Hasn't been my fault.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Like we're just caught up in somebody else's mess. But
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you do find yourself.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: If you do find yourself in somebody else's mess constantly,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: then it starts to deter to back to you because
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: it's like quit putting yourself in that scenario.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Well, it's easy to blame like, well again it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: Wasn't my fault.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter like run better run, run closer up front,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: or or or try a different type better center for
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: a better exit.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: The corner, the corners, you know.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: So it's it's it all comes back to self at
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: the end of the day, and how you can do
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: what you can do to be better to not put.
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: Yourself in said scenarios.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: But but yeah, it can get annoying sometimes, but at
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: least not for me because I'm not paying the bill.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: How much of those costs to replace?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we're up to five hundred six.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: And how many calls do you have in the story?
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Is just in case we're only allowed I think like
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: seven to eight on rotation.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Now, I meany of you wreck this year, like two
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: this year, twenty two years.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a necessary expense, I would think, right like, it's.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: A lot, and that's why you want to have good
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: partners to foot the bill.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: So thanks Robin Hood.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I wanted to ask.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: You know, you played a big role in getting the
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Confederate flag band from mass car events. How did other
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: drivers who didn't want it band treat you after it?
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I actually can't say that they didn't want it banned,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: so I didn't really know their their viewpoint on it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: But I think we all came together and you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: as one as in unison and and I.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Think that's all you could ask for in sports.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: But for the one that necessarily didn't want it banned,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: they've never come forward or shown their displeasure, so I
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: can honestly say the sports has been way better without it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: So hold on, how do you know they haven't shown
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: their displeasure because there was a news found in your
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: garage back in twenty twenty with that before after.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Well, that's it's all we I think we're all human
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: enough to you know, if in out of the driver's world,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: you know, if you have a problem with it, you
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: just kind of keep it to yourself and move on.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: And I'm not treated differently or I just I don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: speak to said drivers, But I haven't had any instances
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: where the drivers have come at me for for you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: removing the Confederate flag. It's it's been everybody's been in
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: support of it, and we've moved on, so it is
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: what it is.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: They ever gets to the bottom of the news thing
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: and find out who did it or.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: No Yeah, it was.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: It was there before we got there, years before we
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: got there, and it's just coincidence that I had that garage,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: so like it's it's wild. So you know, it is
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: still a topic of discussion to this day.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: It's it's wild.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: You should see my Twitter mentions like Bubba finished third,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: what was there news?
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: You know, it's it's.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: It's wild that that is still going about it. And
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: but no, it was there before we even got there.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: And just the one in a million katrillion coincidences that
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I had that garaged all and in fact it was
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: tied in a fashion like that. It could have been
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: this small. It doesn't matter. And so it is what
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: it is, and and we've moved on from it. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: it sucks that the sport was put in that situation.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: That I was putting that situation, our team was putting
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: that situation. But we've learned a lot about who we
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: are as a sport and who we are as competitors, and.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: That's all you can ask for.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Did he take a toll on you emotionally?
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, those those year or two after that was rough,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: you know, because you know, I went from being one
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: of the most I wouldn't say the most like drivers,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: but favorable drivers, you know. But now it's it's just
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: been the booze and stuff. And that's okay because it's sports.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: And I'm a big you know, I love going to
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: college football games Tennessee in college basketball games, and I'm
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: not a person that boos other teams because I'm kind
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: of in the sports world myself, and it's just kind
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: of seems childish. But fans do what they want. So
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: booing is a part of sports in general. But it was,
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: you know, the next week after Talladega, it was like
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: a light switch and it was like whoa Wow, we're
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: you know, like, holy shit, I don't asked for this.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: And and so now it's they're making noise. You know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I've always been told and I've read things, is when
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: they stopped making noise is when it's worse.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: So you still get do you get scared when you
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: get in that call yout fear fear at all?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: No, no fear.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I'll be free. I'll be afraid for you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that you drive fast on the roads.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Hell, no be afraid for you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: When I was younger, I was one of them stupid
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: kids that was frying in and out of traffic.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: I think we all wear it went to right, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: so you know, you climb in and just do it,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and that's that for us. If you have the fear
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: that is that is seconds that you're that you're giving up,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: And I mean we're talking about fighting for thousands of
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: an inch, giving up seconds for just being scared.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: You can't have it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I hate people who speed.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Whenever I gonna call somebody who's speed, I be like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: are you an a rusted die?
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: It is?
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: It is, but I mean it's your job.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: But on the roads it's different because you know, people's
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: lives are at stake and the safety and I've always said, uh,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't speed on the roads because the
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: safety of my race car is way higher than than
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: a street car.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: I have a nine to twelve point hardness whatever it is,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: and we got one seat belt in a car and
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: that's it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: So I can take I can take multiple.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Wrecks on Sundays going one hundred and eighty two hundred
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: miles an hour versus a.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Ninety miles per hour wreck here, and it's it's over,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: so lie.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: But if I do see you in I gotta try
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: you one time.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean he just said he
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: was a stupid but but y'all got one time everybody
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: to do the dumbest everybody needs.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: So that's fun. You can you could take that. You
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: can take that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: And Steve shout out to Robin Hood.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Y'all made investments for financial literacy programs at Howard, Right, Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: are gonna do that TCU.
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we're at twelve universities and expanding, yeah, all across
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: the country.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Why then, important for Robin Hood?
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: I think it's important because you want to make sure
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: that people at the at a very young age, start
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: to understand how to do it responsibly and suitably.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: The younger.
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: I mean, everything shows that if you know just the
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: power of compounding alone, you start at a young age,
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: you know you're gonna you're gonna benefit at an older age.
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: I'm one of those annoying fathers who has three twenty
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: some year old daughters.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: And and I pound on them.
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: You got to put that money to work, put that
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: money to work, be invested in that, and uh, I said,
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: one day you'll thank me.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us an episode.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Thank you so much. Get up with.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Everything Bubba and the Steve. They appreciate you for joining us.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. It's Bubba Wallace and Steve Kirk.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Thank you guys.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning for Breakfast Club.