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PODCAST: Episode 894 - Nikan "Siyanor" Khosravi of Confess Talks "In Pursuit of Dreams" Anniversary and New Music · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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  That feeling is also the same for me.
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  But I I think as an artist, you have to always challenge
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  yourself. You can't just say I want to
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  play safe and I just want to keep talking about the same
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  thing. I'm like, no, you know, I am
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  into bands and artists from movies to music that they are
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  willing to talk about those, you know, everybody has a secret.
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  You know, it's all right, but those dark moments in your life
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  that you, you know, you try not to speak about, you know,
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  everybody has that, but you somehow, if you've been able to
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  incorporate that with your art, I, I think it was it, it would
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  be very interesting for, for listener because again, we, we
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  can, we can sense those things, you know, when we listen or
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  watch something. Hi, this is Rachel with Ghost
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  Call. I'm here with Nikon from the
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  band Confess. How are you doing today?
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  I'm fine, thank you. Nice talking to you.
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  Nice talking to you. Thank you for taking the time to
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  speak with me today. Absolutely.
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  I just have a few questions for you.
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  So I'm here as you know your band just released their second
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  album this month, The Pursuit of Dreams and I was just wondering
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  what your goals were with this re release?
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  You know, we released this album initially back in 2015 and but
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  everything that happened after the release of the album, which
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  was me and my bandmate Rs who were arrested back in Iran, we
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  like literally 2 weeks after the release of the album, we were
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  jailed for the, for blasphemy and propagating against the
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  state through our lyrics and our music.
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  Very, very lengthy process of being in jail and the lawsuit
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  and everything. And so we couldn't really like
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  really experienced feedback from the the fans when we released it
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  because of course we were in jail.
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  So we wanted to bring this back and like with remastering it,
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  try to do some, you know, a little touch and, and being able
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  to represent this album again to the to newer fans after 10
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  years. And we really believed in this
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  album and I we really think that this album put us on the map.
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  And so, yeah, it was a great experience.
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  It came out three weeks ago and it was a very good response from
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  the fan base. Yeah it is very good album.
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  I had a chance to listen to it last night and I really enjoyed
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  it. I have another question for you.
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  So how did you guys decide to name your band Confess?
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  Like is there any significant meaning behind it?
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  A very good question. The main reason behind it was
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  the, the, the concept came from this idea that we felt like we
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  have a lot to talk about. A lot of things that we were
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  going to say regarding the social political status of our
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  country or, you know, the whole world was that it was, it felt
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  like more like a confession, you know, because, because this,
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  because, you know, the suppression and, you know, a lot
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  of things that we experienced in our lives was kind of like push
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  this in a certain direction, which was kind of make awareness
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  about a lot of things and being able to motivate people to do
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  so. And we, yeah, it was kind of
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  like I'm confessing to couple of things that I, I feel deep down
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  inside of myself in a personal life or, you know, regarding the
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  society that I'm living in. But yeah, you know that that
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  that was the main concept behind it.
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  Yeah, I know that. I really like that.
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  It's very meaningful. So that's gonna lead me to the
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  question, what age do you feel like you were, where you finally
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  discovered your passion for music, in particular, like the
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  metal scene, You know, especially being in Iran and
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  everything. Yeah, for me it was that the
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  first time there heard metal music.
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  I think it was around 11:12. And I, ever since I knew that I,
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  I want to be part of this. I, I want to, I want to be able
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  to speak about my own story and, and write my own lyrics about
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  music and being able to speak to the world.
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  And I was more or less like a shy kid, you know, I kind of
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  like, I was able to communicate with the world outside, but
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  probably didn't have much to say, you know, through like a
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  normal conversation. But I felt like through that
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  outlet, which was music, especially heavy metal,
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  something deep down inside of me can resonate with this music.
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  And especially being a teenager and, you know, having a lot of
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  resentment and anger about the word around you, you felt like,
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  you know, I, I, I can relate to this.
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  So I would say it was very early in my teenage years, but very
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  like, you know, quickly I decided that I want to learn how
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  to play the instrument and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
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  But yeah, I would say when I was like 12 was the first time that
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  I really like could really dig this music, you know, And I
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  started with, you know, the early 2000s bands kind of like
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  Slipknot or, you know, Sit Slow Down and all those bands that
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  probably my generation, I'm not 32 now.
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  My generation could you could say that most of us kind of like
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  started to listen to this music through these bands and these.
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  Yeah, I've been coming back bands back in the days.
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  So do you feel like you have any personal influences that also
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  help guide your journey? It seems to me that you use this
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  more to like heal so than anything you know is the outlet
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  to help you, you know, just expand your inner consciousness
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  and everything. Absolutely.
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  I think one of the main reasons that I could really like Wipe
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  with bands that I mentioned was because part of the lyrical
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  theme of their music was personal struggle.
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  And I remember as I was also like learning how to speak
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  English and all that was like translating their lyrics.
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  I was like, damn, like it's crazy.
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  There is a guy literally on the other side of the world that is
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  talking about the same things that he experienced, for
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  example, 10-15 years ago that is around the same age as I am at
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  that moment. And it was crazy.
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  And it was so motivating and just a feeling that you're not
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  alone in this. And and and it kind of like you
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  want to reproduce that feeling by becoming a musician.
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  And, you know, writing about yourself was kind of like, was
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  kind of like a mission, you know, it was like it was deaf
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  for me. It was definitely more than
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  music. It was cathartic.
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  It was something that I felt that is more like a therapy.
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  And, and yeah, it is, to be honest, it was kind of like even
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  addictive because you know, when you when you keep writing songs
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  and you start to feel something is starting to change in you, it
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  would become your sanctuary. It's kind of like you want to
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  keep doing that. So yeah, it was very, very
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  personal for me always to be able to write music, write
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  lyrics and share it with the world.
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  Who do you feel like your biggest supporters were during
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  this in your life when you first started this band?
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  My family, definitely my mom and my dad, also my sister.
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  My dad was a big like Pink Floyd fan, you know, Jimi Hendrix, all
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  of that. So first time that I came across
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  this sound was through my dad and like listening to his, you
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  know, like a tape collections and when I was like very, very
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  young, like maybe 7 or something like that.
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  And so I was kind of like familiar with the sound, but of
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  course not to the level that I started to understand it more
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  when I was 12/13 around that age.
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  But I would say the first and foremost was definitely my
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  family. And when I mentioned that I want
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  to I want to become a musician, they were definitely very, very
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  supportive. That's awesome.
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  So I guess it's going to lead me to another question.
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  Obviously, I'm going to bring up the incarceration.
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  I was wondering what struggles did you overcome upon being an
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  incarcerator for pursuing your passion?
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  Like you have a deep love for this.
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  This is obviously very meaningful and impactful to you.
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  Like, how did it feel like, you know, just doing your passion in
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  Iran and then having that like held against you essentially?
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  I would, I'd like want to know how that felt personally and how
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  that impacted you as well and your future of the music that
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  you've created. I, I mean, as you can imagine,
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  it was a very like a big event to my life that it, it's very
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  safe to say that it split my life in, you know, before and
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  after I, I would have continued this path either way.
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  But something happens to you when you're being jailed or in
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  any way being persecuted for what you believe.
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  Because for us, as I said, it was also the political message
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  behind it. And that events make me and also
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  my bandmate Rs more, umm, committed.
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  You know, it's like being in solitary confinement for three
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  months. You know, it's not something
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  that you can ever forget. But in that moment, I remember
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  that the only thing that I was thinking about was that what I'm
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  doing has shaken a gun government.
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  It forced them to come after us to silence us.
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  So this is the we are hitting the right.
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  But you know, and and and that was something that my best
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  friend could could could not even, you know, let me know.
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  But government by arresting us and like keeping in that
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  situation, Of course, it it was very, very difficult to cope
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  with. We will a lot of it, even after
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  being temporary released from jail by being bailed out and
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  even up to this moment, like 10 years after, you still deal with
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  side effects that you know, you're not with your family,
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  you're living somewhere else. You're literally in exile.
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  You know, anyone can go home and visit their families.
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  You cannot and all that. But it makes your makes my
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  music. I believe that makes my music
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  more honest and our approach more, you know, it's, it's more
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  like raw and honest and like we kind of like report about our
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  own lives and whatever we experience.
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  And I do believe that audience can tell, you know, when I write
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  about oppression, I don't need to close my eyes and imagine
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  something, you know, I lived it. But on personal level, yeah, it
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  is it is a burden. It is something that it really
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  effects different, you know, aspects of your life.
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  But you know, I guess that is the price that one can pay for
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  being able to speak about the truth.
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  Do you feel like it could have been a blessing in disguise
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  because you were bringing like awareness to a situation?
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  Absolutely. I I do think that I needed that
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  strength, you know, I needed that strength through that pain,
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  I gained strength to be able to pursue.
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  I know that a lot of these things I might say might sound
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  cliche, but you have to remember that I have a very rare
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  experience, especially to a Western audience, you know, and,
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  and I and I can imagine that maybe if, if I was not able to
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  live in those moments, maybe I could not really understand that
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  a lot of these things that we're enduring is for a good reason.
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  So as you said, it is something that also came with a blessing.
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  And I think he really enriched our art.
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  And not that before that it was not, but you know, before that
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  we were talking about something that was more like from an
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  outsider point of view. But wouldn't that that happened?
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  And when we released Revenge at All Costs back in 2022, which
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  was seven years after arrest, it was something that we had like
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  unlimited amount of content and a lot of things to speak about
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  that we could not necessarily narrow it down to 11 songs.
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  But we're like, this is what we have to tell.
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  And, and I'm and I'm happy and I'm happy that I got this chance
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  to be able to sit here and tell you this, because not a lot of
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  people are able to get out of that place or even if they do,
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  are going to be functional. Because in my case and Irish
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  case, we were in Evin prison for 15 months.
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  Yeah. And after that, you know, all
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  that stuff that happened, we had all the rights to give it up.
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  But I'm glad that we did not, and we're not planning to do so
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  it. Was like a test from the
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  universe. You know, I feel like you over a
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  lot. I feel like it, you know,
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  strengthened your bond with him as well.
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  You know, a lot of times being in solitary confinement or even
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  being for a long period of time, it really gives you a lot, a lot
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  of time to reflect on a bunch of things in your life.
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  And I feel that. Oh yeah, I.
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  Hear your voice like I can hear the raw emotion and the passion
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  absolutely throughout it. And I feel like maybe that helps
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  you a lot with this album and as well as your other albums after
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  that. And thank.
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  You very much yeah. I, I also I, I can totally agree
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  with that. I, I even sometimes when we're
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  like working on something or, you know, even for example, back
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  to the remastered version of In Pursuit of Dreams that we just
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  released. You know what?
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  We were working on it months ago.
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  After many years, I was listening to these songs again
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  and I was thinking to myself, I was like, first of all, how much
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  of these change? How much of these things I'm
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  talking about has changed for better or worse than what not,
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  but kind of like, you know, put it in a perspective and I was
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  like looking at myself. I'm a life and a lot of things
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  that I was like talking about or or the this anger or disrupt
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  your anger that is isn't those songs or whatever we release
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  afterwards. It is something that it it kind
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  of like make me wait for a SEC positive song and like think
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  about it. So yeah, it is a lot of it is
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  really difficult to explain, but overall I would say that yeah,
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  it it definitely changed the course of our lives for a lot of
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  it for good, a lot of it for bad.
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  But you know, we just take it as it is you.
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  Know you got to take the good with the bad.
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  It's that harmony about that you have the equal balance like you
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  were you're able to overcome this men's darkness and you like
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  came out on top essentially. And I feel like, you know, it
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  did have a lot, correct me if I'm wrong, to do with a lot of
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  the lyrics and everything in your albums, correct?
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  Like afterwards. Yeah, that is something that I
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  would say, I'm sorry. There is something that I would
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  say I can I can refer you to to one of the lines in the song
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  that we released in our third album, Revenge of Cost.
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  The name of the song is called Phoenix Rises.
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  And in in a part of song, I say sometimes with darkness you'll
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  be LED into light. And yeah, that basically
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  summarized this whole I love. That song so much too.
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  I was going to actually ask you the song.
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  I really relate a lot to that song ironically, but it's really
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  good. Thank you.
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  You know, I feel like, you know, the universe puts us in
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  situations where, you know, we choose these paths maybe in
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  another lifetime or something, and it helps us when it sends.
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  It's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.
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  Like I totally can relate to, to this because yeah, there are,
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  there are so many times that I, I kind of like wait and like
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  kind of like pause and like think and reflect on the
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  situation. I'm like, wow, I had to go
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  through that to get to this, to get to this point and to
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  understand this point in life. And yeah, I, I'm not a religious
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  person. I, I definitely believe in form
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  of spirituality and believe that there is, there is something
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  about this life that we have to learn things.
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  And if we're lucky, life would put us through tests and we'll,
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  if we can be able to overcome that too, because a lot of it is
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  self discovery. A lot of it is like, all right,
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  I was born, they called me this, they told me that's your
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  nationality. I'm in this part of the world.
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  This is the geography that I'm living at and whatnot.
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  But I have to really like get to know myself because they they
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  told me what I am, but who am I really?
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  And I, I think one of those moments that you can start to
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  understand who you are. When is when you face those
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  challenges? Are you a person that really
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  practice what you preach? Because that was me.
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  I was writing about standing for what you believe in and whatnot.
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  And life was like, all right, game on.
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  Let's see what you have. And I hope that I was able to
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  overcome those those obstacles or tests.
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  And there is a lot more coming. I know that.
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  But but yeah, it is a then the whole point is to be able to
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  inspire someone, to be able to get the same feeling that
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  somebody gave me when I was young, that you are not alone.
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  There is someone out there that felt the same way as you do
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  right now. And I hope that will be able to,
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  to do that for someone. I I think that would be the
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  biggest reward. Yeah, you're essentially a soul
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  having a human experience. You know, we have to go through
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  exactly all of these obstacles, like you say.
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  And like you said, like a phoenix rising.
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  You come out on top and you definitely came right on on top
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  with all of this. Thank you very much.
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  I was wondering, I want to know what went behind the creative
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  process of creating the album Destination Addiction.
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  It was something happened like that album was very special.
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  We released it back in January, and because George from Nile, he
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  did the drums, it was even extra special for us.
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  The process of writing the album started back in 2020.
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  I guess it was kind of like starting to write.
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  It's still the album before that was not even out, but because it
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  was quarantine, I was sitting at home.
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  All right, all right, I don't have anything to do.
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  So I start to write some music, but for myself.
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  Not that I was like, you know, I knew that I want to write the
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  next album at that moment, but one song, 234, I was like, all
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  right. And I start to like the sound.
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  It was kind of different and I had already some ideas about the
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  lyrics and things like that. But you know, throughout those,
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  like from 2022 to 23, I was like singing myself.
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  I was like, I think we're ready to go.
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  Like we have good amount of songs to be able to start the
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  next project and you know, so we start doing the pre production
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  and then, you know, while we were on tour with Niall, A
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  drummer, the previous drummer, he was going to move to
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  California. So we were like, OK, I guess
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  after the tour we have to find a new drummer for the album and
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  you know, for the tours and all that.
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  But I remember one day in a conversation, George mentioned
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  that, you know, he, he's watching our set every night and
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  how how he likes the band and the sound and all that.
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  And he said, what are you guys going to do after the tour?
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  And we told him that, you know, we're going to record the album
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  and all that. And mentioned our situation with
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  the drummer. And he said, I would like to,
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  you know, do the album for you guys and, you know, do a
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  collaboration. And we were super happy about
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  that. And right after the tour, we
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  start the process. It was so smooth, you know, 10
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  songs done, you know, quickly. And he put, he had some inputs
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  with the arrangements and it made the songs even better.
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  And yeah. So it, it, it was a lengthy
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  process, but at the same time, you know, it was kind of good
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  because the, the, the lyrics needed some development.
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  Because this album, that threat through these songs, it talks a
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  lot about mental health. It talks about politics and all
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  that. But it was very important for me
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  in this album to talk about the man behind the music, you know,
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  because I was like, for some people.
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  They think, all right, you know, he left Iran and now everything
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  is good. He's not in jail, You know,
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  fairy tale. It's not really true.
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  You know, now you have to live with the aftermath, with all
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  that. And I had a lot to say.
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  So I wrote some of my most personal songs that at some
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  point I was like, this is too exposing.
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  I don't know if I'm comfortable saying that, but I was like, if
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  it doesn't feel comfortable, it means it's good.
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  So I was like, all right, dude, you know, I read a song about
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  addiction or anxiety and whatnot.
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  And, you know, name of the songs, Dark on both sides, Final
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  lap, all that look like it is definitely pretty dark.
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  But we we just want to, we just want to talk about something
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  that we haven't talked before. So yeah, Destination Addiction
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  is a very special album for us. We're very proud of it and we
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  hope that people also like it. I feel like being vulnerable is
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  your biggest strength throughout all of this because, yeah, not a
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  lot of people, they see the fairy tale part of it.
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  They don't see all the trials and tribulations that you
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  actually underwent mentally, physically and emotionally to be
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  able to like, come out on top. Like I feel like you're doing
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  amazing and I really think you're going to go forward with
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  great zest and everything. Appreciate that.
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  Thank you very much. You have our ability.
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  It is, it is true, you know, not, not, not everyone is
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  comfortable with putting themselves in that situation to
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  be, you know, to, to, to, to talk about things that they,
• 21:34
  they are not necessarily comfortable talking about.
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  Of course, that feeling is also the same for me, but I, I, I
• 21:41
  think as an artist, you have to always challenge yourself.
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  You can't just say, I want to play safe and I just want to
• 21:48
  keep talking about the same thing.
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  I'm like, no, you know, I, I am into Dan's an artist from movies
• 21:56
  to music that they are willing to talk about those, you know,
• 22:02
  everybody has a secret. You know, it's all right.
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  But those dark moments in your life that you, you know, you try
• 22:09
  not to speak about, you know, everybody has that.
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  But you somehow if you be able to incorporate that with your
• 22:17
  art, I, I think it was it, it would be very interesting for
• 22:22
  for listener because again, we, we can, we can sense those
• 22:26
  things. You know, when we listen or
• 22:29
  watch something, we can tell, you know, this comes from real
• 22:31
  place or not. And I, I'm, I'm, I'm just
• 22:35
  hopeful that we would be able to do that again.
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  And yeah, so yeah, that is the that's the situation addiction.
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  I feel like you're the rawness and everything is definitely
• 22:47
  inspiring a lot more people than you would ever realize.
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  I feel like that you, like I said, you're doing, that's all.
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  And I like I said, being vulnerable is definitely your
• 22:54
  biggest attribute throughout all of this because you don't know
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  who you are inspiring. You don't know who you're
• 22:59
  reaching out to. You know, you think you're being
• 23:01
  like, I don't want to share this, but you know, sometimes
• 23:04
  being scared is what pushes you with great courage to go forward
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  and to create something amazing and to create that motivation
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  for other people to do what you do.
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  Which would lead me to question, what words of wisdom would you
• 23:18
  offer to anybody in the music industry, in particular in the
• 23:21
  metal industry, where they feel like they were to be censored,
• 23:23
  Like you went through immense censored.
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  What would your word of wisdom and encouragement be to somebody
• 23:29
  who looks up to you and aspires to do something with their
• 23:32
  dreams as you did? It's a very, very big question,
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  but it's a I'm sorry, I need to, you know, think a little bit,
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  but I would say there's going to be a lot of them.
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  You know it. Absolutely.
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  I mean, we've been doing this for 15 years in two different
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  continents, went to jail to big stages, played with our favorite
• 23:56
  bass. We we've been through both, you
• 23:58
  know, end of the ladder and we we saw a lot.
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  Anything can imagine, but I would say just hold your head
• 24:07
  down, do your own thing, do it without the expectation of being
• 24:11
  cheered or booed. Just don't care.
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  We got into this because we felt like there is this love in the
• 24:21
  sound and in this form of art that got us into this.
• 24:25
  The rest just to be able to create that is the main purpose.
• 24:29
  Anything else and just bonus, you know, it's like, I think
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  that would be the biggest, biggest thing that I can tell
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  someone. It's just to do it for yourself
• 24:39
  with no expectation. You know, nobody owes you
• 24:41
  anything. You don't owe anyone anything.
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  And when the art is honest and real, who speaks to people and
• 24:49
  they will come and actually follow you.
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  Actually, not that you're a leader or anything.
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  Follow you, follow your mindset, you will follow your story.
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  Anything else is just a bonus. You know, I would say that is
• 25:06
  the main thing and just, you know, stay true to yourself is
• 25:09
  that you know, a lot of things, you know, that was not cool back
• 25:14
  in the days of school now and vice versa.
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  So you, you never know, you know, you never know and just
• 25:21
  keep doing it and just keep doing it and one day your number
• 25:25
  will come up. So what would your personal
• 25:27
  definition of success be? Not in a monetary gain, but like
• 25:30
  your personal definition of success, Like a self
• 25:33
  fulfillment, like definition of success.
• 25:35
  Someone come and tell me that you helped me, your music helped
• 25:38
  me, that that would be that would be the biggest thing.
• 25:41
  Like I remember we played a couple of years ago in Berlin
• 25:45
  and there was a fan who came to me and said I drove 300
• 25:50
  kilometers just to see you guys. I was like, damn, why did you do
• 25:54
  that? And it was like, dude, you guys
• 25:55
  are awesome and all this and I love that song and I have this
• 25:59
  album and you know, I was like, dude, thank you.
• 26:02
  You know, you make my day. It means a lot to me to hear
• 26:05
  that that somebody took a time out of the date and you know,
• 26:09
  they, they did that. Like, so it, it, it would kind
• 26:12
  of like, you know, it goes both ways.
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  And it's, it's a very like a, it's a big moment for, for
• 26:20
  someone that makes art, to be able to see someone so
• 26:24
  passionate and for that passion, they're willing to do things.
• 26:29
  And you know that that music speaks to them.
• 26:32
  And it's, it's, it's an amazing feeling.
• 26:36
  So for me, I think that would be the biggest to be able to see
• 26:39
  that I've changed something, maybe in me, maybe in someone
• 26:43
  else. You know, today is different
• 26:45
  than yesterday, but it comes with a price.
• 26:48
  It comes with it. It takes a long time, you know,
• 26:51
  and if you're lucky, we're able to see that change in the world
• 26:55
  and, you know, that, you know, it's kind of like, actualized in
• 26:58
  front of our eyes. But yeah, you know, I think that
• 27:02
  would be the biggest thing that can happen to an artist.
• 27:05
  Yeah, well, change is a ripple effect.
• 27:06
  It all starts with a frequency. As long as you keep the
• 27:08
  vibration high, I feel like you expand.
• 27:12
  Absolutely, Absolutely. Yeah.
• 27:14
  Create a good energy, you know, because it comes back to you.
• 27:17
  It definitely comes back. There is.
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  It's been proven to me many, many, many times that sometimes
• 27:24
  there was no light in insight, but it was like, there's
• 27:27
  something in the end of the tunnel.
• 27:29
  And yeah, maybe not a lot of people would believe you, but
• 27:34
  yeah, if just, you know, life is individual experience.
• 27:37
  Just keep on going. It's all about balance and
• 27:39
  harmony. It's all about balance.
• 27:41
  Exactly. No.
• 27:43
  Is there anything that you wish to share with the world about
• 27:45
  anything at all? Like any random advice or?
• 27:48
  Yeah, First of all, thanks for having me.
• 27:51
  It was a very nice conversation. But overall, yeah, you know, we
• 27:55
  are confessed and we are, you know, off to a lot of cool,
• 28:00
  exciting stuff that we're working on, which, you know, in
• 28:04
  in it's time. We'll talk about it.
• 28:06
  But yeah, I hope that the people that they don't know us or they
• 28:09
  never heard of music would be able to, you know, find us.
• 28:13
  We're on all the streaming platforms everywhere.
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  I hope that they enjoy the music and be able to, you know,
• 28:18
  resonate with some songs. I think you definitely have a
• 28:21
  bunch of people that resonate with you.
• 28:23
  Thank you very much.