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Speaker 1: Kids.
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Speaker 2: Is the report?
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Speaker 3: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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Speaker 3: James Macpherson coming up tonight. Prime Minister ALBINIZI has finally
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Speaker 3: met with President Jijingping. But will this meeting improve our
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Speaker 3: relationship with China? I'll go through it all shortly with
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Speaker 3: Senator Dave Sharma. A disturbing increase in crime has swept
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Speaker 3: across the country, with New South Wales seeing fourteen drive
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Speaker 3: by shootings in just twelve weeks. What on earth is
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Speaker 3: going on? We'll speak to New South Wales Shadow Police
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Speaker 3: Minister Paul Toole. Donald Trump has delivered Russian President Vladimir
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Speaker 3: Putin and ultimatum a cease fire in fifty days or
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Speaker 3: face the consequences. Sean Spicer on that and much more.
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Speaker 3: And another day, another renewable project scrapped. National Senator Matt
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Speaker 3: canavan owins me to discuss the latest green energy fail.
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Speaker 3: But First Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi is not even halfway
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Speaker 3: through his China trip and is already the toast of Beijing.
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Speaker 3: He met with Jijingping just a few hours ago, and
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Speaker 3: I'll come to that in a moment. But the Communist
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Speaker 3: Party's mouthpiece, the China Daily published a gushing editorial late
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Speaker 3: last night that I've got to say read more like
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Speaker 3: a Valentine's daycard than diplomatic commentary. The article, entitled common
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Speaker 3: Ground Prevails over Differences might as well have been called
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Speaker 3: thanks for not being Scott Morrison. The article positively purred
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Speaker 3: with praise for the PM, saying he possesses quote a
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Speaker 3: clearer judgment and understanding of China than his predecessor in
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Speaker 3: diplomatic terms. That's Beijing saying this one's house trained. Scott Morrison,
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Speaker 3: you see, made the egregious error of behaving like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I don't know a sovereign leader. He dared to ask
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Speaker 3: Beijing questions that matter, like where did COVID actually come from?
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Speaker 3: Anthony Alberanizi, however, is not so bold. He prefers to
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Speaker 3: keep things oh, I don't know, breezy.
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Speaker 4: We will cooperate wherever we can, including we obviously have
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Speaker 4: an interest in trade, will disagree where.
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Speaker 3: We must, which is all very charming, except no one
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Speaker 3: seems to know what we actually disagree on, certainly not
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Speaker 3: on COVID and seemingly not on Chinese warships snooping around
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Speaker 3: our coastline of.
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Speaker 4: Course, I would prefer that it wasn't there.
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Speaker 3: What about live firing exercises off the coast of Sydney.
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Speaker 4: We believe it would be appropriate to have been given
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Speaker 4: more warning of this potential event taking place. Spying on
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Speaker 4: military exercises this week, that would be nothing unusual that
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Speaker 4: has happened in the past. We do disagree on the
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Speaker 4: port of darw but not enough to bring it up.
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Speaker 1: First if it's raised.
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Speaker 4: Our positions very clear, and I'm sure that the presidents
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Speaker 4: are very clear and is knowledgeable of that.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Been diplomatic terms that roughly translates to please, don't make
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Speaker 3: things awkward, No wonder. The China Daily is swooning over
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Speaker 3: the man they've dubbed Handsome Boy. That and his stunning
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Speaker 3: failure to organize a meeting with Donald Trump to Beijing.
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Speaker 3: That's not a diplomatic shortcoming, it's a character reference. The
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Speaker 3: editorial was particularly smitten by what it called the PM's
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Speaker 3: notably long visit.
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Speaker 1: Translation, Beijing is thrilled.
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Speaker 3: He's staying almost twice as long as New Zealand's Prime minister.
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Speaker 3: And let's be honest when it comes to foreign policy,
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Speaker 3: if you're impressing Beijing, even more than the Kiwi's something's
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Speaker 3: definitely going according to someone's plan.
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Speaker 1: There's even more delightfully.
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Speaker 3: The editorial noted Elbow's trip came at just the right time,
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Speaker 3: that China Daily wrote and by quote, against the backdrop
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Speaker 3: of rising tensions between the United States and many countries.
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Speaker 3: In other words, Albanezi showed up right when China needed
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Speaker 3: a Western friend who wasn't busy defending Western values. Now,
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Speaker 3: to be fair, that China Daily noted there were what
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Speaker 3: it called points of difference between Australia and China, though
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Speaker 3: oddly it didn't name a single one. Taiwan, South China, Sea,
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Speaker 3: human rights spying, hacking.
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Speaker 1: Nothing to see here.
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Speaker 3: Instead, we got this diplomatic, doozy quote. The progress made
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Speaker 3: in economic and trade cooperation in the past two years
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Speaker 3: has benefited the people of both countries and provided a
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Speaker 3: counterweight amid the rampancy of unilateralism and protectionism. Australia's relationship
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Speaker 3: with China is providing a counterweight to the United States.
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Speaker 3: That's right, our Prime minister is being praised for helping
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Speaker 3: China stand up to our biggest defense partner and ally
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Speaker 3: that noise you just heard it was dirt being shoveled
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Speaker 3: from the hole where our US alliance will be buried
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Speaker 3: if things continue at this rate.
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Speaker 1: So there you have it.
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Speaker 3: While China embarks on its biggest military expansion since World
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Speaker 3: War II with eyes firmly on the prize Taiwan, the
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Speaker 3: China Daily can't stop writing love letters to our Prime minister.
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Speaker 3: And if that doesn't make you feel all warm and
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Speaker 3: fuzzy inside, well congratulations, you probably still have a spine.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi met Jijingping this afternoon and kicked off his
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Speaker 3: press conference with a grin so cheesy it could have
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Speaker 3: been served on a cracker.
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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa who.
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Speaker 2: There on the security side.
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Speaker 3: Sadly, the smile stopped as soon as the Australian media
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Speaker 3: began doing something Chinese journalists do not asking difficult questions.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister was asked if he'd sought assurances that
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Speaker 3: we would be better informed next time the CCP conducted
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Speaker 3: live firing exercises off the coast of Australia.
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Speaker 4: President she said that China engaged in exercises just as
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Speaker 4: Australia engages in exercises.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Liberal Senator Dave Sharma. Dave I'm
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Speaker 3: curious to see how the Australian Navy would go conducting
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Speaker 3: live firing exercises off the coast of China. I'm guessing
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Speaker 3: it wouldn't end in polite dialogue and a handshake.
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Speaker 5: No, it certainly would not, James. I think China would
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Speaker 5: see that as a provocative and aggressive act, just as
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Speaker 5: Australia should rightly have seen the PLA Navies can conduct
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Speaker 5: of a live fire exercise of our coasts and the
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Speaker 5: Tasman Sea a couple of months ago as an aggressive
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Speaker 5: and provocative back. And it's not clear from what the
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Speaker 5: Prime Minister had to say about his meeting was using
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Speaker 5: ping in what sort of terms he raised our concerns
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Speaker 5: about this. But I think it's very important for our
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Speaker 5: own national interest, for our own sovereignty that he did
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Speaker 5: so in clear and direct terms that we did not
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Speaker 5: see this as the act of a friendly nation.
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Speaker 3: It's a little hard to know exactly what the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister said, because he got pretty shirty at pretty much
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Speaker 3: every question. The PM was asked if he had sought
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Speaker 3: clarity on why China was massively increasing its military capabilities,
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Speaker 3: and the PM appeared to pretend that he didn't understand
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Speaker 3: the question.
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Speaker 4: Have look at this, well, you would be surprised if
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Speaker 4: that was brought forward, and I'm not sure what you're
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Speaker 4: getting out now.
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Speaker 3: The reporter helpfully simplified the question and then, in true
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Speaker 3: diplomatic form, the PM answered an entirely different question.
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Speaker 6: Do you feel confident that China is a force for
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Speaker 6: peace in the region after this meeting?
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Speaker 4: Well, what we did was we put forward Australia's position
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Speaker 4: I did, which is that we want peace and security
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Speaker 4: in the region, that that is in the interests of
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Speaker 4: both Australia and in the interests of China.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we want peace.
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Speaker 3: But the question was whether or not the PM was
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Speaker 3: confident China wanted peace, and that question was skillfully sidestepped, Dave.
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Speaker 5: Look, it was, and I think it would have been
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Speaker 5: perfectly appropriate and correct diplomatically for the Prime Minister to
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Speaker 5: say that they we are Australia is concerned that recent
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Speaker 5: actions by the People's Republic of China have been undermining
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Speaker 5: peace of security in the region, whether it's maritime disputes
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Speaker 5: with countries like the Philippines and Vietnam, whether it's the
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Speaker 5: aggressive behavior of their coast guard, whether it's land reclamation
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Speaker 5: activities in the South China Sea, whether it's the continued
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Speaker 5: incursion into the airspace and maritime space of Taiwan, or
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Speaker 5: indeed whether it's the circumnavigation of Australia by the PLA
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Speaker 5: Navy and the conduct of a litheire exercise, those are
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Speaker 5: perfectly legitimate things for the Prime Minister and Anthony I
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Speaker 5: Beneasy to raise. Indeed, they thinks he should have raised,
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Speaker 5: and the fact that he seems so hesitant and reluctant
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Speaker 5: to disclose what was discussed on the terms that he
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Speaker 5: raised these things suggests to me that he didn't raise
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Speaker 5: them forcefully at all, or not with any serious intent.
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Speaker 3: You'll naturally, he was then asked how he actually views China,
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Speaker 3: especially when our major ally, the US has labeled them
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Speaker 3: their greatest threat.
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Speaker 4: Have listened, we have strategic competition in the region, but
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Speaker 4: we continue to engage in order to support peace and
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Speaker 4: security in the region and stability in the region.
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Speaker 3: Well, if strategic competition means increasing your nuclear arsenal and
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Speaker 3: your warships, then yeah, I guess we have strategic competition.
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Speaker 1: Dave Sharma, Look, I think that's right.
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Speaker 5: I don't think there's any doubt that the People's Republic
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Speaker 5: of China and Jujinping is adopted a much more aggressive
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Speaker 5: and expansionist attitude than previous iterations of the CCP leadership,
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Speaker 5: and that is rightly a concern not only for Australia,
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Speaker 5: It's a concern for many of China's neighbors Japan, Korea, Vietnam,
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Speaker 5: Indonesia and Malaysia. It's a concern for United States allies
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Speaker 5: in the region as well, and so it should be
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Speaker 5: a concern for Australia. I mean, you know, we desire,
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Speaker 5: and we should desire, a prosperous and productive trading relationship
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Speaker 5: with China, but that should not mean that we park
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Speaker 5: any other differences or discount them all or do not
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Speaker 5: raise them whatsoever. We trade because it's in our mutual
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Speaker 5: interests to do so, not as a favor to one another.
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Speaker 5: China buys our eye and all because they need it
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Speaker 5: and wear a good pigeh quality, reliable supply. That's the
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Speaker 5: basis of that relationship. It doesn't mean that we should
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Speaker 5: be papering over differences and other areas or failing to
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Speaker 5: raise our fundamental strategic and security concerns.
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Speaker 3: Now, there was the insignificant matter of the Port of
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Speaker 3: Darwin currently on a long term lease to the Chinese.
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Speaker 7: Did the President express any objection to your plans about
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Speaker 7: bringing the Port of Darwin back into Australian hands or
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Speaker 7: any potential response that China might take to that.
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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't raise, Dave Shama, you're surprised that that
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Speaker 3: didn't come up in the meeting.
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Speaker 5: Look, I am a little surprised. It's not clear from
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Speaker 5: the Prime Minister's very curd answer whether he raised it
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Speaker 5: or whether it was not raised by the Chinese side.
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I don't think that Albanezi should
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Speaker 5: be going out seeking to magnified points of difference, but
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Speaker 5: he should be very clear on why we took that
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Speaker 5: decision that we've taken, and it was in response to
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Speaker 5: an opposition election commitment or policy that we we announced
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Speaker 5: in the course of the last campaign, and I think
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Speaker 5: it would have been made sense for me at least, Anthony.
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Speaker 5: I but easy to explain the basis of that decision
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Speaker 5: to Chinese leadership.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister spoke a lot about the importance of dialogue.
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Speaker 1: Have listened to these comments.
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Speaker 4: One of the things that we know is that dialogue
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Speaker 4: is a good thing if you don't have communication, or
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Speaker 4: you can have misadventure and misinterpretation as well.
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Speaker 3: Well, Dave Chama, I can't argue with that dialogue is vital,
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Speaker 3: especially in relationships, which makes it all the more awkward
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Speaker 3: that Albanezi has chatted on a number of occasions in
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Speaker 3: person with using ping, but hasn't spoken once in person
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Speaker 3: with Donald Trump. I guess some dialogues are more important
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Speaker 3: than others.
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Speaker 5: Look quite right, I mean, look, and this is an
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Speaker 5: important point. Dialogue is a means to an end. It's
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Speaker 5: not an end in itself. It's good that you're talking,
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Speaker 5: but the important point is to get a set of
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Speaker 5: understandings in how you're going to conduct a relationship and
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Speaker 5: make sure your interests are registered. And if Anthony Albernezi
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Speaker 5: has done that in China, well that's that's positive. But
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Speaker 5: seeking dialogue for dialogue's sake is not the purpose of
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Speaker 5: to primacy your foreign engagement. And you're right to point
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Speaker 5: out that with our most important defense strategic and on
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Speaker 5: some measures economic partner of the United States, Anthony Alberanesi,
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Speaker 5: you know it's now been I think two hundred and
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Speaker 5: fifty odd days since Donald Trump was elected. He's yet
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Speaker 5: to meet him, and he you know, he didn't have
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Speaker 5: a meeting in Canada. Well, look that was understandable. Donald
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Speaker 5: Trump left early. He could have had a meeting with
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Speaker 5: jade E Vance at the Vatican when the new pope
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Speaker 5: was being sworn in or inaugurated. He didn't take that opportunity,
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Speaker 5: and he doesn't seem to have any plans to make
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Speaker 5: that trip soon. And I think we have vital interests,
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Speaker 5: not only your trade interests with the United States with
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Speaker 5: respect to tariffs and other trade measures, but also of
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Speaker 5: course with nuclear powered submarines of the Orchestra project.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely some dialogue with the US would be most welcome.
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Speaker 3: Dave Sharma, appreciate you joining me tonight. Well, what is
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Speaker 3: going on in our country? Yesterday, in Melbourne, at around
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Speaker 3: three point thirty pm, otherwise known as broad daylight, a
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Speaker 3: man was stabbed in the neck and chest by someone
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Speaker 3: allegedly shouting a la akba. The forty four year old
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Speaker 3: victim somehow walked away with only minor injuries, which in
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Speaker 3: Melbourne is considered a pretty good day out across town.
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Speaker 3: Just an hour later, customers of a local cafe barricaded
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Speaker 3: themselves inside as a knife wielding man banged on the window.
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Speaker 3: The alleged attacker terrorized cafe customers until a brave citizen
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Speaker 3: charged him with a chair, knocking him to the ground
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Speaker 3: and disarming him.
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Speaker 1: But here's the scary part.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised by any of this, not even slightly,
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Speaker 3: and you probably weren't either. It was just another day
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Speaker 3: in Melbourne, where crime is more reliable than trams. Neither
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Speaker 3: incident seemed quite as bad as gangs of youths running
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Speaker 3: through Northland shopping Center with machetes, or indeed to stolen
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Speaker 3: cast speeding through the same center the following day. That
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Speaker 3: was just four weeks ago. The crime crisis isn't only
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Speaker 3: confined to Melbourne. In New South Wales, there's been fourteen
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Speaker 3: drive by shootings in the past twelve weeks. That's more
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Speaker 3: than one a week for those keeping score at home.
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Police Superintendent Jason Box has told journalists
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Speaker 3: many of the shootings get this were contracted hits carried
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Speaker 3: out by teenagers, and just for good measure, three of
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Speaker 3: those shootings targeted the wrong people. It's a twenty one
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Speaker 3: percent error rate. That's less targeted violence and more blindfolded Roulette,
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Speaker 3: So what on earth is going on? Joining me as
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Shadow Police Minister Paul Toole, Paul, thanks
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Speaker 3: for your time tonight. I understand crime is going to
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Speaker 3: wax and wane, but honestly, I don't remember a time
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Speaker 3: when Australia was consistently this violent. I want to get
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Speaker 3: specifically to New South Wales in a moment, but more broadly,
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Speaker 3: what's happening in our country with crime at the moment?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of people would be shaking
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Speaker 6: their head games. I think at the end of the day,
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Speaker 6: when you have a look at what's happening in this country,
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Speaker 6: we're all proud to be Australians, but what we're continually
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Speaker 6: finding is that there are people who don't respect other
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Speaker 6: people's way of life and what we are unfortunately seeing
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Speaker 6: across this country is people who think that it's okay
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Speaker 6: to become part of a gang, people who actually want
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Speaker 6: to go out there and shoot up And at.
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Speaker 1: The end of the day, when you look at New.
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Speaker 6: South Wales alone, you're right, we've seen fourteen shootings in
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Speaker 6: the past three months. This creates a real grim picture
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Speaker 6: right across New South Wales. But what's happening is we're
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Speaker 6: seeing homes being sprayed with bullets, We're seeing our streets
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Speaker 6: being sprayed with bullets, and also innocent bystanders and innocent
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Speaker 6: homes have also been a part of these attacks. It's
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Speaker 6: simply not acceptable and it's simply no way in which
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Speaker 6: we should be living here in this country. And I've
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Speaker 6: never seen it as bad as what it is right
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Speaker 6: now at this particular of the time.
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Speaker 3: You well just think a lot of people would agree
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Speaker 3: with you. Now New South Wales police have launched a
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Speaker 3: task force into criminal gang violence. Is that enough or
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Speaker 3: should all be done? And what about the political side
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Speaker 3: of things?
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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, let me just say that our
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Speaker 6: police do an amazing job here in New South Wales.
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Speaker 8: But no, I think the.
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Speaker 6: New South Wales Labor government have got to get away
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Speaker 6: from just announcing a task force every time there's an
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Speaker 6: incident that occurs here in New South Wales. This seems
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Speaker 6: to be the common mantra of the New South Wales
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Speaker 6: Labor government. Whenever we see a spike in crime, let's
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Speaker 6: go and announce another task force.
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Speaker 7: But this is.
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Speaker 6: Where our police are also getting frustrated, because every time
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Speaker 6: you create a task force. You are taking police officers
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Speaker 6: out of other commands and that means those commands are
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Speaker 6: being left short now this then sees crime continuing in
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Speaker 6: those local areas. At the end of the day, the
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Speaker 6: biggest problem that we have here in New South Wales
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Speaker 6: is the judicial system need to make sure the penalties
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Speaker 6: are harsh enough to tell those that are involved in
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Speaker 6: criminal networks that they are not wanted here in New
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Speaker 6: South Wales and if they do the wrong thing then
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Speaker 6: they're going to be locked up for a very long
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Speaker 6: period of time. We've also got issues around the number
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Speaker 6: of police here in New South Wales.
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Speaker 7: It is the.
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Speaker 6: Worst or the lowest that we've ever seen police numbers
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Speaker 6: here in New South Wales. So over the last two
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Speaker 6: years we've seen thousands of police officers that have left
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Speaker 6: the workforce.
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Speaker 4: We've got around four and a half.
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Speaker 6: Thousand less boots on the ground. Morale is low. They
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Speaker 6: are feeling burnt out. But the other thing that they
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Speaker 6: can do, James, is they can also as a government
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Speaker 6: start looking at trying to target these teenagers. These teenagers
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Speaker 6: are being recruited by criminal networks to go out there
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Speaker 6: and do their dirty work, so they're actually being involved
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Speaker 6: in some of these shootings. They're also stealing these cars.
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Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, as I said,
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Speaker 6: the judicial system is letting our communities down because they
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Speaker 6: are not feeling safe because these individuals are getting out
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Speaker 6: on bail time after time and going out there and
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Speaker 6: committing the same offense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, I know that you're here in New South Wales,
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Speaker 3: but I'm sure people listening in other states will identify
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Speaker 3: with absolutely everything you've said. And I think Victoria, New
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Speaker 3: South Wales both demonstrate if you don't get on top
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Speaker 3: of these issues and fast, they just keep escalating. And
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Speaker 3: that appears to be where we're at now. Paul tool
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Speaker 3: I appreciate your time. Thank you well. Coming up after
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Speaker 3: the break, Donald Trump gives Russia an ultimatum a Ukraine
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Speaker 3: ceased fire in fifty days or face the consequences. Former
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Speaker 3: White House Press Secretary Sean Spice will join me with
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Speaker 3: that in just a moment. Welcome back to the program. Well,
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump promised to end the war in Ukraine, but
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Speaker 3: has been growing increasingly impatient with Vladimir Putin.
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Speaker 9: They speak to him, alt this thing done, and I
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Speaker 9: always hang up and say, well, there was a Naice
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Speaker 9: fong goal and then missiles launched into Kiev with some
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Speaker 9: other city.
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Speaker 8: And I said, it's strange.
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Speaker 9: And after that happens three or four times, you say
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Speaker 9: the talk tos him in anything.
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Speaker 10: I thought he was somebody that meant what he said.
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Speaker 11: And he'll talk so beautifully and then I'll bomb people.
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Speaker 5: At night.
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Speaker 9: I'd get home, I'd say, first, lady, I had the
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Speaker 9: most wonderful talk with Vladimir.
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Speaker 11: I think we're finished.
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Speaker 9: And then I'll turn on the television or she'll say
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Speaker 9: to me one time, Wow, that's strange because he's just
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Speaker 9: bombed a nursing home.
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Speaker 1: So with his patient's finally warm thin.
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Speaker 3: The US President has delivered an ultimatum Russia must agree
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Speaker 3: to a cease fire within fifty days or face massive tariffs.
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Speaker 3: Joining me his former White House Press secretary Sean Spicer,
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Speaker 3: Sean welcome, tell us more about this ultimatum and well
20:53
Speaker 3: the chances it will succeed.
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Speaker 10: Well, look, I think beyond the ultimatum and the sanctions
21:00
Speaker 10: or secondary tariffs, I think.
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Speaker 2: Is that are referred to.
21:02
Speaker 10: I think the idea that he has agreed to send
21:05
Speaker 10: both defensive and offensive weapons through NATO is the big
21:10
Speaker 10: deal here. This look, Donald Trump gave Putin every opportunity
21:14
Speaker 10: to come to the table and find a place for peace.
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Speaker 1: Putin ran out of that.
21:19
Speaker 10: Graciousness that I think that President Trump extended him and
21:22
Speaker 10: he is now going to do whatever it takes to
21:24
Speaker 10: end this war. But I think Putin overplayed his hand
21:28
Speaker 10: big time.
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Speaker 1: Trump.
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Speaker 11: If you know.
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Speaker 10: Anything about him, if you've read his books, he wants,
21:34
Speaker 10: he believes that he can make a deal with anybody.
21:36
Speaker 10: He's going to try to do what he can to
21:38
Speaker 10: bring them into the fold. But Putin has worn out
21:41
Speaker 10: his welcome and I think Donald Trump is now going
21:44
Speaker 10: to show him that mister nice guy is gone.
21:47
Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 3: As he said, Trump has promised to supply Ukraine with weapons,
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Speaker 3: but he's going to do it via NATO countries, who
21:53
Speaker 3: will then purchase them from the US and hand them
21:56
Speaker 3: on to Ukraine. Here's the NATO Secretary General speaking in
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Speaker 3: the Oval Office.
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Speaker 1: After the deal.
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Speaker 8: You want to brain Rodiques to have to maintain to
22:06
Speaker 8: be able to defend itself against Russia. But you'll go
22:10
Speaker 8: on to Europeans to pay for it, which is totally logical.
22:14
Speaker 8: And this is building all the tremendous success of the
22:16
Speaker 8: NATO summit so I've been in contact with many countries.
22:19
Speaker 8: I can tell you at this moment Germany massively, but
22:23
Speaker 8: also Finland and Denmark and Sweden and norvatkating the benemence Canada.
22:28
Speaker 8: They all want to be part of this, and this
22:30
Speaker 8: is only the first rate.
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Speaker 1: There will be more so Sean. This seems pretty smart
22:35
Speaker 1: to me.
22:35
Speaker 3: Ukraine gets the weapons that needs, but the US remains
22:38
Speaker 3: at arms distance from direct conflict with Russia. In addition,
22:41
Speaker 3: NATO countries are taking responsibility for their own defense, and
22:45
Speaker 3: the US taxpayer isn't any worse off. Am I missing
22:48
Speaker 3: anything with this?
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Speaker 10: No, not at all, except the fact that this is
22:52
Speaker 10: It's amazing that it took him to do this. This
22:55
Speaker 10: is truly the America first way. US companies will produce
22:58
Speaker 10: the weapons, they'll get paid for them, and then we
23:01
Speaker 10: will transfer them to NATO, who will buy them from
23:04
Speaker 10: US at a profit, by the way, and then they
23:07
Speaker 10: will be used to supply Ukraine with the weaponry they
23:11
Speaker 10: need for their defense, and hopefully some offensive capabilities.
23:14
Speaker 1: As well with longer range missiles.
23:16
Speaker 10: But the bottom line is this, this has been something
23:19
Speaker 10: that the US taxpayer has shouldered the burden for way
23:23
Speaker 10: too long. And Donald Trump has come in and says
23:25
Speaker 10: there's a third way. It's kind of like what he
23:27
Speaker 10: did in Iran. Frankly, where the conventional wisdom is that
23:31
Speaker 10: there were only two options. One is to go all
23:33
Speaker 10: into is to do nothing. Trump showed a third way,
23:35
Speaker 10: and once again he is showing that there is a
23:38
Speaker 10: different way that you can be helpful to Europe and
23:42
Speaker 10: also make sure that the US taxpayer is taken care of.
23:44
Speaker 10: And I think that this is again where people miss
23:48
Speaker 10: Donald Trump, that he is sort of always able to
23:50
Speaker 10: find a different way to achieve an outcome that's better.
23:54
Speaker 3: What are the chances that this will result in a
23:56
Speaker 3: cease fire? And if it doesn't, What's Trump's next move?
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Speaker 10: Well, two things that are interesting, And he addressed part
24:04
Speaker 10: of this in the Oval office that Trump's never going
24:05
Speaker 10: to tell you what his next move is, but you
24:07
Speaker 10: got to know that he will ratchet it up. I
24:10
Speaker 10: was there in the first term when he launched attacks
24:13
Speaker 10: in Syria. You saw what he did with Iran in
24:15
Speaker 10: the last couple of weeks. If I were putin, I
24:18
Speaker 10: would get the hint real quick that whether it's the
24:21
Speaker 10: economic sanctions and tariffs that he'll pose to really choke
24:25
Speaker 10: off the lifeblood. Look, we used to have net trade
24:29
Speaker 10: of about fifty five billion, it's down to about five billion.
24:32
Speaker 10: Will continue to squeeze that in the Russian economy will
24:34
Speaker 10: feel the pain of it. And then secondly, obviously, as
24:37
Speaker 10: that weaponry increases from defensive to offensive, the impact that
24:42
Speaker 10: the Russian people will feel will be much greater. And
24:46
Speaker 10: I think the patients that they have with putting up
24:49
Speaker 10: with the propaganda that Putin has fed them will start
24:52
Speaker 10: to fade as well.
24:54
Speaker 3: Right, I want to move on to talk about the
24:55
Speaker 3: ghost of Jeffrey Epstein. Former Israeli Prime Minister Neftali Bennett
25:00
Speaker 3: has refuted claims overnight that Jeffrey Epstein was ever working
25:04
Speaker 3: for Mossad. The claims, of course, have been popularized by
25:07
Speaker 3: people like Tucker Carlson, who told an audience in Florida
25:10
Speaker 3: on Friday that everyone he knows in Washington, DC believes
25:14
Speaker 3: the notorious sex trafficker was working for the Israeli government.
25:19
Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson said, quote, I've never met anyone who doesn't
25:22
Speaker 3: think that. I don't know any of them that hate Israel,
25:24
Speaker 3: but no one feels they can say it. But yesterday
25:28
Speaker 3: Naftali Bennett posted a statement on x saying, quote, as
25:32
Speaker 3: a former Israeli Prime minister, with Mossad having reported directly
25:36
Speaker 3: to me, I say to you with one hundred percent certainty,
25:39
Speaker 3: the accusation that Jeffrey Epstein somehow worked for Israel or
25:42
Speaker 3: Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally false. Meanwhile,
25:48
Speaker 3: President Donald Trump just wishes people would stop talking about Epstein,
25:51
Speaker 3: who was found dead in his jail cell six years ago.
25:55
Speaker 11: Are you still talking about Jeffrey in Epstein? This guy's
25:58
Speaker 11: been talked about for years. You're asking me. We have Texas,
26:02
Speaker 11: we have this, we have all of the things where
26:05
Speaker 11: and are people still talking about this guy? This creep
26:09
Speaker 11: that is unbelievable?
26:12
Speaker 3: And Trump posted on truth Social yesterday, quote, what's going
26:16
Speaker 3: on with my boys and in some cases gals. They're
26:19
Speaker 3: all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing
26:22
Speaker 3: a fantastic job. Where one team, Megan and I don't
26:25
Speaker 3: like what's happening. We have a perfect administration, the talk
26:28
Speaker 3: of the world, and selfish people are trying to hurt
26:31
Speaker 3: it all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.
26:36
Speaker 3: Sean Trump created huge expectation that the public would get
26:40
Speaker 3: all the details about Epstein's crimes. Now he's berating the
26:44
Speaker 3: public for wanting all the details about Epstein's crimes.
26:49
Speaker 10: Yeah, governing can be a little different sometimes when you
26:51
Speaker 10: are faced with the reality of what the office bears.
26:55
Speaker 10: And look, I think that there's a situation here where
26:58
Speaker 10: there may not be a less from the people that
27:00
Speaker 10: I've talked to at the highest levels. It appears that
27:02
Speaker 10: there's no actual client list. I don't Again, this really
27:06
Speaker 10: has never been my issue. That being said, I think
27:09
Speaker 10: that what the government needs to do under Donald Trump
27:11
Speaker 10: is explained and be a little bit more transparent about
27:14
Speaker 10: what information there is. We know that there are very
27:17
Speaker 10: lude and inappropriate imagery and videos that exist, and they
27:23
Speaker 10: need to explain why that can't be released. And then secondly,
27:26
Speaker 10: there's a lot of information about people who are involved,
27:28
Speaker 10: and in America we have a system of due process.
27:31
Speaker 10: If we just start shoveling out names, Look, I am
27:33
Speaker 10: all for make sure these young women that were perpetrated
27:38
Speaker 10: get justice, but we've got to do it within the system.
27:41
Speaker 10: And so I think a lot of the material is
27:44
Speaker 10: held by the courts or is inappropriate to be released
27:47
Speaker 10: and it would do the administration good to lean into
27:51
Speaker 10: that a little bit more to explain the information they
27:53
Speaker 10: have and why they can't release it, what they have
27:55
Speaker 10: and what they don't. But to be honest with you,
27:57
Speaker 10: part of this was self created by the Attorney General.
28:00
Speaker 10: She brought out binders, she handed them out that seemed
28:03
Speaker 10: to indicate that there was a ton of information in there,
28:06
Speaker 10: when there wasn't. They then said at the end of
28:08
Speaker 10: the binder, well more to come, leaving people to believe
28:11
Speaker 10: that there was a lot more there. And so it's
28:14
Speaker 10: hard to now turn around and say, well, there's never
28:15
Speaker 10: been anything there, or we can't release it to you. So,
28:19
Speaker 10: you know, they kind of did create some of this,
28:22
Speaker 10: and they need to have the Attorney General, probably herself,
28:25
Speaker 10: go out there and explain the situation a little bit
28:27
Speaker 10: more because I think the base rightly so wants a
28:31
Speaker 10: greater degree of transparency.
28:33
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein. Let's talk about
28:35
Speaker 3: another ghost, and that's Joe Biden. He's defended his use
28:39
Speaker 3: of the auto pedtan to sign last minute pardons, but
28:42
Speaker 3: in defending the pardons and the way in which they
28:44
Speaker 3: were done, Biden's made a startling admission. He told The
28:48
Speaker 3: New York Times that he made every decision himself about
28:51
Speaker 3: who would receive clemency, But then he admitted he didn't
28:54
Speaker 3: explicitly agree to each and every clemency winner. Rather, he
28:58
Speaker 3: gave oral a troval to a general sort of framework
29:01
Speaker 3: about the kinds of people who would receive pardons, and
29:04
Speaker 3: then White House stuff would use the auto pen to
29:08
Speaker 3: sign pardons for people they believed fitted within the framework.
29:12
Speaker 3: That's a lot of power in the hands of Biden's stuff.
29:16
Speaker 10: Yeah, but look, the details matter in this, right, So
29:20
Speaker 10: let's just be clear every politician America, that's not true.
29:23
Speaker 10: A lot of politicians use an autoped I don't really care.
29:26
Speaker 10: I don't use it. I use docu signs all the time.
29:29
Speaker 1: Right.
29:29
Speaker 10: The question isn't how you sign your name, it's whether
29:32
Speaker 10: you intended to do it or not. Right, So, if
29:35
Speaker 10: somebody hacks my computer and starts signing my name on
29:37
Speaker 10: mortgage documents, whether it's my signature or not is irrelevant.
29:41
Speaker 10: It was never the intent, and that wouldn't hold up
29:43
Speaker 10: in a court of law. So what's missing here as
29:46
Speaker 10: the context, and you alluded to this in the story,
29:49
Speaker 10: Biden says explicitly with respect to pardons, which is something
29:53
Speaker 10: that the Constitution delegates solely to the President of the
29:57
Speaker 10: United States, that he gave broad parameters to his chief
30:00
Speaker 10: of staff, Jeff Science, who then sort of decided who
30:04
Speaker 10: was the one that signed off. Now again, remember the
30:07
Speaker 10: details matter here. The Constitution says that that power lies
30:11
Speaker 10: exclusively with the President of the United States, not with
30:13
Speaker 10: the White House chief of staff or anybody else working
30:16
Speaker 10: in the White House. So there's I think a strong
30:18
Speaker 10: case to be made. Whether it's autopender or not doesn't matter.
30:22
Speaker 10: It's not about how the document was signed. In my opinion,
30:25
Speaker 10: and I'm not a lawyer. But what matters is the
30:27
Speaker 10: president never knew that an action, whether it's a pardon
30:30
Speaker 10: or a bill signing, occurred that he knew about, then
30:33
Speaker 10: it didn't happen. It's again, I don't know that it
30:36
Speaker 10: matters if it's a bill signing, a pardon, or a
30:38
Speaker 10: mortgage document. It wouldn't hold up in a court of law.
30:42
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating one.
30:43
Speaker 3: Will this go any further or is this just going
30:46
Speaker 3: to be left alone by the Trump administration.
30:48
Speaker 10: It's an interesting question because I actually testified and for
30:52
Speaker 10: the Senate Judiciary Committee just over a week ago, and
30:55
Speaker 10: one of the lawyers positive that basically it needs to
30:58
Speaker 10: get tested. So in other words, let's say I got
31:00
Speaker 10: a pardon and somebody then tried to prosecute me, and
31:03
Speaker 10: they would say, well, that pardon actually wasn't made in
31:06
Speaker 10: a legal binding way, So you'd have to challenge the
31:10
Speaker 10: pardon in some way, shape or form, or some other
31:13
Speaker 10: action that the president took. I don't know, at least
31:16
Speaker 10: from the lawyers that I talked to, that you could
31:18
Speaker 10: just say that it doesn't count. There would have to
31:20
Speaker 10: be a legal action, So the President would have to
31:22
Speaker 10: prosecute someone or the Department of Justice rather, and then
31:26
Speaker 10: they'd have to make the case that the pardon that
31:28
Speaker 10: protects them isn't valid. So you'd have to see an
31:31
Speaker 10: action challenging it. And that begs the question that you're asking.
31:35
Speaker 1: Is that going to happen?
31:37
Speaker 3: Will be interesting to watch and see if it does.
31:40
Speaker 3: Zorain Mamdani is the front runner to become New York mayor,
31:44
Speaker 3: and we continue to discover just how radical he is,
31:47
Speaker 3: not just his social policies but his apparent embrace of
31:50
Speaker 3: radical Islam. The New York Post is reporting today that
31:53
Speaker 3: Mamdani's former communications and policy in turn was just last
31:57
Speaker 3: year encouraging supporters to get arrested in.
32:01
Speaker 1: Their struggle against the West.
32:03
Speaker 3: Hadika Malik, speaking on a webinar entitled Islamic political Activism, said,
32:08
Speaker 3: the true believer knows that none of this is in vain,
32:11
Speaker 3: that this is all g had So the conversation of doxing,
32:15
Speaker 3: conversation of getting arrested and suspended.
32:17
Speaker 1: I think it's time for Muslims.
32:19
Speaker 3: To start to say, all right, all right, so what
32:22
Speaker 3: if you get suspended or doxed, Because it's bound to
32:24
Speaker 3: happen when you're doing something for the sake of Allah
32:27
Speaker 3: here in the West, it will never ever be in vain,
32:30
Speaker 3: and the true believer does not fear that. Sean, the
32:33
Speaker 3: more we learn about the Democrat candidate and his associates,
32:37
Speaker 3: the more worrying.
32:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, let me give you a news flash. You've spent
32:43
Speaker 10: more time on Australian television covering this than most of
32:47
Speaker 10: the US media combined. Last week there was an instance
32:51
Speaker 10: where he said some really radical things about policing and
32:55
Speaker 10: victims of domestic violence and basically no one covered it.
33:00
Speaker 10: And what's happening now is that the media in America
33:03
Speaker 10: is largely might say largely almost entirely giving him a
33:07
Speaker 10: pass on all of these things, his beliefs, his background,
33:12
Speaker 10: and his policies, people that he surrounded himself with. So look,
33:17
Speaker 10: I wish I could say I was surprised by this,
33:19
Speaker 10: but as I said, I mean, just think about this.
33:21
Speaker 10: Your audience needs to understand that you in Australia have
33:24
Speaker 10: now spent more time than the collective US New York
33:28
Speaker 10: or New York City media probably combined on questioning his
33:34
Speaker 10: policies and the people that he's surrounding himself with, and
33:36
Speaker 10: that should be a very scary proposition.
33:39
Speaker 3: Well, you've made a great case, Joan, for why more
33:41
Speaker 3: Americans should watch Sky News this trust.
33:44
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for joining me tonight. It's always enjoyed to
33:47
Speaker 1: speak to you. Thanks so much, you bet Bill.
33:51
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, another green energy project bites
33:55
Speaker 3: the dust. Matt Kevan will join me to unpack that
33:58
Speaker 3: and more in just a moment. Welcome back to the program. Well,
34:04
Speaker 3: the Victorian government's green energy dreams are in disarray. In
34:08
Speaker 3: what can only be described as gale force dose of reality.
34:12
Speaker 3: One of the state's most advanced offshore wind projects has
34:15
Speaker 3: been scuttled after developer Blue Float Energy found it's not
34:19
Speaker 3: commercially viable, which ironically is exactly how most Victorians feel
34:23
Speaker 3: about their electricity bills these days, and there are reports
34:26
Speaker 3: that the company may not go ahead with its offshore
34:28
Speaker 3: project in New South Wales either. That project, which requires
34:33
Speaker 3: floating turbines, is seen as challenging and expensive. It would
34:37
Speaker 3: possibly have predicted that anchoring a giant mechanical pinwheel in
34:40
Speaker 3: the middle of the ocean and hoping it behaves like
34:42
Speaker 3: a suburban ceiling fan might be difficult and costly. Joining
34:46
Speaker 3: me now, as National Senator Matt Canavan, Matt, the Victorian
34:50
Speaker 3: government is counting on offshore wind to reach its target
34:53
Speaker 3: of supplying what is it, ninety five percent of the
34:56
Speaker 3: state's electricity from renewables by twenty thirty five.
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Speaker 1: This is not going to help.
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Speaker 2: It sure isn't, James. There's good and bad news about
35:08
Speaker 2: this for Australians. The good news is that, look, every
35:11
Speaker 2: other offshore wind project in developed countries requires massive amounts
35:15
Speaker 2: of taxpayer assistance. We've seen in the UK recently they
35:18
Speaker 2: run an auction process. The prices to encourage offshore wind
35:22
Speaker 2: have gone through the roof. So this project not going
35:25
Speaker 2: ahead is likely to save Australian taxpayers that bill. That's
35:29
Speaker 2: the good news. The bad news is, as you've described,
35:31
Speaker 2: the plan to keep the lights on a Victoria was
35:34
Speaker 2: to build this kind of infrastructure. And in the Victorian
35:37
Speaker 2: government's own plan, this is their own documents, their own
35:39
Speaker 2: planning documents, they say that if we don't build the
35:43
Speaker 2: offshore wind projects they've planned that they would have to
35:46
Speaker 2: cover seventy percent of Victoria's farmland with solar and wind projects.
35:52
Speaker 2: That's not a typo. I've just posted this on my
35:55
Speaker 2: ex account if you want to go and look at
35:57
Speaker 2: the exact extract, and I should credit Aiden Morrison from
36:00
Speaker 2: the Center for Independent Studies for this. He's got an
36:02
Speaker 2: extract from that government report. You can ready yourself. You
36:04
Speaker 2: can see the maps the Victorian government to put out
36:07
Speaker 2: saying that we don't know if we don't build on
36:09
Speaker 2: offshore wind, they're going to cover Victorian's farmland with seventy
36:13
Speaker 2: percent of solar and wind. The next question which they
36:16
Speaker 2: don't answer their report is how are we going to
36:18
Speaker 2: grow our food? How is this going to work chain?
36:21
Speaker 2: This is absolutely absurd and if this plan A has
36:26
Speaker 2: fallen over and the Plan B is to cover Victoria's
36:29
Speaker 2: farmland with solar wind projects. I think we need a
36:32
Speaker 2: Plan C now to keep lights on in this country
36:35
Speaker 2: and to keep in our industry and manufacturing, at least
36:37
Speaker 2: what's left of it.
36:40
Speaker 3: Well, Matt, if Plan C stands for coal, I'm all
36:43
Speaker 3: for it. Meanwhile, Australia's most influential business group, the Australian
36:47
Speaker 3: Chamber of Commerce, has hit out at the federal government's
36:50
Speaker 3: plan to reduce emissions by more than sixty five percent
36:53
Speaker 3: by twenty thirty five. They argue manufacturing and economic growth
36:57
Speaker 3: would be impacted, and they've called for a target that
37:00
Speaker 3: is and I quote, grounded in reality. Matt, the Chamber
37:04
Speaker 3: of Commerce clearly don't understand how climate policy works.
37:07
Speaker 1: Is any of it grounded in reality?
37:11
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, look, I welcome the business lobby group's belated
37:18
Speaker 2: arrival in the land of reality, as you've put it,
37:21
Speaker 2: because for too many years they've been smoking this green
37:25
Speaker 2: nonsense and repeating it, saying, oh, look, we can just
37:28
Speaker 2: set this target, and I think yeah they would. What
37:30
Speaker 2: they were doing was saying, oh look we'll set a
37:32
Speaker 2: twenty thirty target. That's ten years away back in twenty twenty,
37:36
Speaker 2: what could go wrong? But now that net zero chickens
37:39
Speaker 2: are coming home to roost, and what's the gum we're
37:42
Speaker 2: going to do. They're going to set another target that's
37:43
Speaker 2: ten years away to continue this madness and this cost.
37:47
Speaker 2: I've got this crazy idea, James, that maybe we should
37:50
Speaker 2: run our energy system to produce the lowest power prices
37:54
Speaker 2: in the world. Maybe we should run our energy system
37:57
Speaker 2: to guarantee the job security of Australians that rely on
38:01
Speaker 2: this country having cheap energy. Maybe we should run our
38:04
Speaker 2: energy system so we can continue to have the high
38:07
Speaker 2: paying jobs that come with the use of cheap energy.
38:10
Speaker 2: Because if we don't have cheap energy in this country,
38:14
Speaker 2: we are not going to afford the deer wages that
38:17
Speaker 2: we have. If you don't have cheap energy, we're going
38:20
Speaker 2: to have to put up with cheaper wages. And I
38:23
Speaker 2: don't want to see that for the AUS Trade people.
38:25
Speaker 2: So I think we should turn around all the priorities
38:27
Speaker 2: and the objectives our energy system and saying, look, I
38:30
Speaker 2: don't really care about the climate targets that no other
38:33
Speaker 2: country in the world is meeting. What we should do
38:36
Speaker 2: is have a cost of living target as the Australian
38:39
Speaker 2: government should be focused on the cost of living of Australians,
38:42
Speaker 2: not contributing to these global agreements, which, as I say,
38:45
Speaker 2: especially over there in China. As anthiberesis there in China,
38:49
Speaker 2: they are certainly not meeting net zero and we are
38:53
Speaker 2: fools to go along with it just on our own.
38:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt Canavan, your suggestion makes a lot lot of sense,
39:00
Speaker 3: which is why I'm pretty certainly it will not be
39:02
Speaker 3: embraced by anyone in the current government. I appreciate your
39:05
Speaker 3: time tonight. Thanks for joining me well after the break.
39:09
Speaker 3: Remember Quantus boss Ellen Joyce, He's resurfaced in a very
39:13
Speaker 3: unlikely place and a classic song is reimagined by the
39:17
Speaker 3: politically correct mob. Is nothing sacred? My panel are going
39:20
Speaker 3: to have some fun with that one right after this
39:25
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program. Joining me is my panel,
39:28
Speaker 3: Will Kingston, host of Fire at Will, a podcast from
39:31
Speaker 3: The Spectator on politics and culture, and Skyne New's contributed
39:35
Speaker 3: to Joe Hildebrand, who's filling in for me on the
39:36
Speaker 3: late to back tonight at Hello mate.
39:43
Speaker 1: It's very confusing, but you'll be great, Joe.
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Speaker 10: Hey.
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Speaker 3: As I mentioned in my opening, Anthony Albanezi has kicked
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Speaker 3: off his China visit with the kind of glowing praise
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Speaker 3: usually reserved for panda cubs. China Daily, the Commonist Party's
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Speaker 3: official fan club newsletter, declared, and I quote Elbanezy's visit
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Speaker 3: shows the Alian side has a clearer judgment and understanding
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Speaker 3: of China than it had under the previous Scott Morrison government.
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Speaker 3: Will I'm curious what does Albanesi understand about China that
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Speaker 3: Scott Morrison didn't.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a confusing one. Let's put to one side
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Speaker 7: that the Chinese regime is genocidal, that it is imperialistic,
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Speaker 7: that it presses its own people and continues to do so.
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Speaker 7: Let's park that for now. I cannot fathom the strategic
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Speaker 7: stupidity of, on one hand, having a military strategy that
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Speaker 7: is geared towards conflict in the Pacific with China, and
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Speaker 7: an economic strategy that seems to be about closening our
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Speaker 7: ties with China via trade. It doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 7: What do we think will happen when in the next decade,
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Speaker 7: and I think it is probable we are pulled in
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Speaker 7: some way into a regional conflict with China over Taiwan
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Speaker 7: do we think suddenly that all of those trade ties
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Speaker 7: will just keep puffing along as they have done for
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Speaker 7: so many years. Of course they won't. Those rivers of
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Speaker 7: gold will dry up very quickly. What Albanez he should
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Speaker 7: be doing right now is diversifying away from China. He
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Speaker 7: should be in India, he should be in the rest
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Speaker 7: of Southeast Asia, he should be in the United States.
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Speaker 7: But I fear he doesn't want to do that because
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Speaker 7: deep down this Labor Party has some ideological sympathy with China.
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Speaker 7: But the reality is when this event, when it hits
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Speaker 7: the fan sometime in the next decade, and those rivers
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Speaker 7: of god run dry overnight, the economy is going to
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Speaker 7: be exposed and as incredibly worrying for Australia.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's come back local.
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Speaker 3: The Herald's Sun has revealed that Melbourne's Lord Mayor Nick Reece,
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Speaker 3: has burned through one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars in
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Speaker 3: taxpayer funded travel since twenty twenty. Apparently running the city
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Speaker 3: includes riding in style. Over eighty thousand dollars went to
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Speaker 3: local travel, including a chauffeur driven limo to get around
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Speaker 3: the gridlock CBD and.
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Speaker 1: Honestly who can blame him?
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Speaker 3: With all the bike lanes, all arts and sweep activations,
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Speaker 3: It's easier to navigate a Hedge maze than Central Melbourne.
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Speaker 3: The only problem Joe is the former deputy and now
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Speaker 3: Lord Man Nick Reese.
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Speaker 1: He's the guy who approved it all.
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Speaker 3: Now he's building taxpayers for the luxury of being driven
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Speaker 3: through the ruins.
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Speaker 12: Look, maybe he's seen the line. Maybe he's realized that,
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Speaker 12: you know, automotive transport really is the way of the future. Look,
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Speaker 12: I'm going to say, I don't want to spoil the party,
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Speaker 12: but you know, a bit over one hundred grand over
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Speaker 12: five years, about twenty grand a year for a senior
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Speaker 12: leadership position, and the vast majority of it local travel.
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Speaker 12: So it's not like he's jet setting all over the
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Speaker 12: world and taking junkets. That's you know, eighty grand or
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Speaker 12: something is on just you know, being driven around. And
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Speaker 12: when they say, you know, rate payer funded limo, I
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Speaker 12: think it's pretty much just a car with a driver
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Speaker 12: in it. But look, I think I'm not going to
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Speaker 12: throw stones at Nick Reese's a friend of Sky News
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Speaker 12: and a man of a great moderation. I'm sure it's
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Speaker 12: all just fiable.
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Speaker 7: If you can.
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Speaker 12: If there's any suggestion he hasn't been using it for
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Speaker 12: counsel business, that's a different story, but I don't think
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Speaker 12: there is.
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Speaker 3: Tell you what I drove in Melbourne recently and I
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Speaker 3: would love a driver because those bike lanes, forget the trams,
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Speaker 3: and that you can't.
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Speaker 12: Park anywhere because there's underneath you.
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Speaker 1: Exactly.
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Speaker 3: Former Quantus boss Alan Joyce, who vanished in a cloud
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Speaker 3: of lawsuits and canceled flights as we surfaced on the
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Speaker 3: corporate speaking circuit. Speaking agency Keynote Entertainment is advertising that
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Speaker 3: the man who turned Quantus into a masterclass in customer
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Speaker 3: resentment now offers quote sharp business insights with Irish storytelling charm.
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Speaker 1: Will the Quantus boss, once.
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Speaker 3: Hounded by the A triple C, now hailed as engaging
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Speaker 3: and dynamic, proves nothing sells like confidence and a short memory.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 7: We know where this is going because any CEO worth
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Speaker 7: his salt will actually not hire this guy to speed
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Speaker 7: about business strategy because he killed one of the great
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Speaker 7: Australian brands. But there is still, unfortunately a market on
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Speaker 7: the diversity speaking circuit. So he'll be talking about de
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Speaker 7: he'll be talking about being inclusive, he'll be talking about
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Speaker 7: being a kind and compassionate leader, and kind and compassionate
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Speaker 7: capitalism and all that sort of cinder ard nonsense.
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Speaker 1: Wafflely stuff.
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Speaker 7: And I think there is still a market for it.
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Speaker 7: That is a concern. It's a waste of shareholders money.
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Speaker 7: I think if the Liberal Party in Australia had any guts,
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Speaker 7: they introduced a policy similar to what Trump has done,
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Speaker 7: which says that if you continue to have these DEI
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Speaker 7: departments and engage in this DEI nonsense in your business,
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Speaker 7: you won't get government contracts, you won't get subsidies, you
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Speaker 7: won't get government assistants. Unfortunately, I don't think that there
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Speaker 7: is that same courage on the right in Australia at
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Speaker 7: the moment.
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Speaker 3: All Right, Australian singer g Flip has who I know
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Speaker 3: you'd both be very familiar with g Flip.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got all our arbits.
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Speaker 3: G Flip has proved once and for all nothing is
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Speaker 3: safe from identity politics. Performing at empt these Queer Music
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Speaker 3: Week in La the thirty one year old changed the
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Speaker 3: iconic song It's.
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Speaker 1: Raining Men to It's Raining Them.
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Speaker 3: The crowd, caught between virtue and confusion, sing along dutifully
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Speaker 3: as the classic hit was reimagined with non binary pronouns.
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Speaker 1: Listen, it's raining Joe.
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Speaker 3: Nothing says artistic innovation like edything someone else's song to
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Speaker 3: match your worldview.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm not big on covers in the first place.
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Speaker 12: You know, the Beatles moved away from them in sixty three.
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Speaker 12: I don't see why everyone else can't start writing their
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Speaker 12: own material. I feel like we're just being reeled in,
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Speaker 12: aren't we. I mean, it's just it's like when Peter
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Speaker 12: says they're going to change the name of you know,
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Speaker 12: Eggan Bacon Bay or Hunters and Collectors. You know, they're
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Speaker 12: just saying, look, let's do this, and everyone will get
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Speaker 12: all excited and outraged about it, and then everyone I'll
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Speaker 12: show a clip of it our band or whatever. But
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Speaker 12: it is a bit like, you know, it's like death
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Speaker 12: death to the idea. F you know, Oh, it's so edgy,
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Speaker 12: it's political now everyone's doing it. I think it's it's
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Speaker 12: almost just like the next cool thing. It's a fad,
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Speaker 12: and you know, sooner or there are genuinely heaps of
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Speaker 12: you know, trans people out there, but I think there's
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Speaker 12: also this kind of thing that trans is the new
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Speaker 12: black now and you know, anything you can hook on
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Speaker 12: it is going to be cool. And then you know,
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Speaker 12: the next you know, next year, they'll move on to
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Speaker 12: something else.
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Speaker 1: It's raining them.
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Speaker 3: Will at this rate girls just want to have fun.
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Speaker 3: Will soon be people just want to express themselves safely.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've got no doubt. I'd extend on what Joe
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Speaker 7: said there. The thing is that these people think they're
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Speaker 7: being edgy and countercultural and cool in adverted commas by
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Speaker 7: doing this, when what they're doing is exactly what the
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Speaker 7: establishment wants them to do. It was the same with
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Speaker 7: the glass and brist stuff that Joe mentioned. This is
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Speaker 7: the socially acceptable position to take. This is what most
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Speaker 7: of the politicians, most of the media, most of the
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Speaker 7: corporates want you to say. If they were saying that,
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Speaker 7: you know, marriage should be between a man and a woman,
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Speaker 7: or that you know, they have concerns about abortion, that
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Speaker 7: would be edgy in this environment. What they're doing is
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Speaker 7: actually establishment and that's what most of the media are, sorry,
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Speaker 7: most of the music industry does these days. It's quite
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Speaker 7: sad how risk averse they have become.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course I think Joe's right. I think
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Speaker 3: they make these changes because They know it'll get traction,
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Speaker 3: it'll be talked about as we are tonight and it's publicity.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jennify Unfortunately the royalties.
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Speaker 3: Joe Joe Hildebrand will see you at ten pm on
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Speaker 3: the Late Debate. Rom Kingston, thanks for joining me tonight
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Speaker 3: and thanks to you at home for your time. That's
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Speaker 3: all I've got time for tonight, but stick around to
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