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He Confessed EVERYTHING To His Ex Wife | Nate Cottman On Divorce, Integrity & Healing · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember me on my X-Wife and confessing to her everything that I had ever done in that relationship to compromise the integrity of the relationship, to apologize to take accountability for the part that I play in the demise of our marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: For three-day straight, before I went to bed, I felt the Holy Spirit, he was like sitting on my chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and he was like, man, you need to confess everything, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And at first, I'm like, maybe I ain't something crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'm just, I'm tripping, I went to bed, woke up in the morning, the whole experience in my chest, and you need to confess everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I'm now negotiating with God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, you know, the relationship is over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we have been divorced for a year, at that point, little over a year, probably a year and a half at that point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, nice sense, kind of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's over, let's just let bygones be bygones, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I did what I probably shouldn't have done, but it was my, you know, I remember the last time her and I spoke, she was just like, I never wanted to speak to you again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who did I do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I sent her a text message first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If she shot the gun, I gave her the bullets.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you and your mom Brian, you y'all like feel the same.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, be mad at her, huh?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because of what she is, Paul?
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[SPEAKER_04]: She couldn't shoot a gun unless you had the bullet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I gave the bullet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what he said.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's a blight of bullets.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what he said?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: say all of the things that you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we take personal accountability for the parts that we play.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I traditionally never hear a woman say, man, you know, maybe 7% per say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was on me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, that was on me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got that wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey family, Willie Moju, you're here and I'm so excited about another episode of The Love You More Show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey family, Willie Mojoon, you're here and I am elated to hang out with the guests that I'm about to hang out with today.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I can be honest with you, man, it's some people that I know that they're great people, and I get an opportunity to see them from a distance, but I'm here to announce this is the first time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've never had a conversation outside of backstage at another amazing podcast show called Tonight's Conversation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I met his brother and he was in his quiet space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, man, I like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm kind of taking inventory and he was in his choir space and then I heard him on stage and all I heard was wisdom, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he pulled me to the side like man, but I think you preach to someone like, man, you called him me out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on the stealth mission, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What you doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he said, no, it's all on you, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he shared a little bit about his journey.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But just feel with wisdom.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, I call him and you call him Nate with love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But his name is actually Nate.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's an author, a speaker, a man of God doing some amazing things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to talk about his book soon, but hey, Nate would love us having a chat with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to excuse my love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And no worries.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love his good to be here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Man, listen, I'm so grateful for the sit down with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And let me tell you why.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I know nothing about you besides the words in my heart on stage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm going to get the chance to know today.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is usually the call that you made in God.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So tell me a little bit more about your stupor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I said let's do it, let's do it right here in front of people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me a little bit more about Nate.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So first of all, man, thank you for having me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My pleasure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's good to be here, and I love the work that you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm excited to get into this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, our first time having a conversation of full-length conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to get to know each other well to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, I want to start by,
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[SPEAKER_03]: talking about my journey through marriage, right, I was married for five years and I'm not proud of the man I was in that marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we typically have a picture of what marriage is going to be like and then we get into it and it punches us in the face, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and it exposes all of the inconsistencies that it exposes all the frailties and it did that for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I was a dishonorable husband.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I, that's what I call it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just a dishonorable husband and I ended up divorcing, right, because of because of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fast forward a year after that divorce my dad died and I was with my dad that he died and When I was in that room Watching my dad
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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw his hopes, I saw many of his hopes dying him, I saw many dreams dying him, I saw him die with secrets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was like the wake-up call to two life-changing deaths happened a year and a half from each other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was the wake-up call that Nate, you have to show up in the world differently.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have to become a man of integrity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have to live a life that God has called you to live.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it really shook me, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It, it, those two events happened in back to back was the wake-up call that I needed for me to walk into the purpose and destiny that God has for my life, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so it was at that moment that vulnerability became the vehicle that God used to usher me into the stage of my life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember I would get on social media and, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I almost use social media like a therapy tool, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I would get on social media and I would just talk through some of what I was feeling inside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would get on social media and I would talk about the failures that I experienced in my marriage, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: and the video started to go viral.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would get on social media and I would talk about my relationship, my dad, how it was strained as an adult.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we reconciled three years before he passed away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was with him as he was dying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I began to talk about these things and that's really what called fire.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I realized, Bro, that vulnerability is actually my super power.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The thing that probably sets me apart is my ability to go into spaces and just be honest about my journey, right, without shame, because Jesus died to live that shame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, you are so in our voices from right now, can you, yeah, Jesus died to live that shame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When we can be honest about our feralties and acknowledge I need for him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's when he opens everything up And so that's that's really what happened having from me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember I ended up meeting with my ex-wife I Know my After we got divorced This is shortly after my dad
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember me on my X-Wife and confessing to her everything I have ever done in that relationship to compromise the integrity of the relationship, to apologize to take accountability for the part that I play in the demise of our marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I also feel like that was a part of that journey for me that in order for me to be able to speak about relationships on this end that I have to make
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I just have to, I have to hold myself accountable, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not just, not just publicly, but hold myself accountable to the person that I hurt the most.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so this, this is the journey that the Holy Spirit took me on, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the one who told me, um, there was three days straight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So let me just pause you real quick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just want to tell you, like, as you're talking, like, I realized I've never because of the anger and the way that she responded, because I too am divorced.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said I apologize, and of course, I talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But what Holy Spirit's giving me now is like, there are some attitudes that she's taking down, because I don't think I did that part, Kubrick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because it was at the height of the Foolish.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I just want to tell you, you're words on follow-in-one deaf ears, just to test them on you along it's like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I see why the ripple effects of her herding her relationships is because the person who hurt in the most never really gave her the type of apology from a genuine space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was more so like, hey, I apologize, I thought, you know, I thought I was doing the, and you know, as you begin with, when you realize like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: That one, right, that one, right, and don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can either buy the world at large.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would look at what you did and just do it, but it's like me as a man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did not do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't set up the meat and say, I hear the list of the things that I did or wrong in this relationship.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hear the secrets that I did and nothing to do with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I apologize for that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I just want to let you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you're on the side of that camera, I'm convicted too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm glad that you brought that up, man, it was the way that it happened for me, though, is for three days straight before I went to bed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I felt the Holy Spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like sitting on my chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, man, like, you need to confess everything, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And at first, I'm like, maybe I hate something crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'm just, I'm tripping, I went to bed, woke up in the morning, the whole experience in my chest, and you need to confess everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I'm now in the go shit and with God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, I, you know, the relationship is over, you know, we have been divorced for a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That point, little over a year, probably a year and a half at that point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, I'm nice, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Get it, I'm saying, like, it's over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just let bygones be bygones, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just let it die.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, same thing would happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Second night, whole spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just that conviction was on my chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was on my chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was like I couldn't escape it three days.
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[SPEAKER_03]: On the third, third night, went to bed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was on my chest woke up so much as again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, all right, God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a dude hand shaking, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I did what I probably shouldn't have done, but it was my, you know, I remember the last time her and I spoke, she was just like, I never want to speak to you again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what did I do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I send her a text message for her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I sent a long text message just, you know, I apologize for the part that I played in the demise of my marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't the man that got called me to be, I was unfaithful, I was uncommitted, you know, I was prideful, I was arrogant, these are the things specifically that I did to compromise the marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I sent out a long text message.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then I screenshot of that text message and I sent it to my pastor and mentor at the time, who did our pre-marital counseling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He also tried to salvage the marriage, but I was not accountable through that process.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was lying to him and lying to his ex-wife.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted to be done with the relationship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just, I didn't want to go through the work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because in my mind, I'm like, okay, we're going to do this and still end up the worst.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So why go through the point of unearthing all of this stuff when we could just be done with it and call it a rap.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Totally understand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember it when I sent it to her, I didn't expect the response, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I screamed shot it though and I sent it to my pastor and mentored the time because I felt like I also needed to be accountable to him
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I remember that was in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got it off my chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, all right, God, I did what you wanted me to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That evening, maybe eight o'clock nine o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's in this in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When I woke up, eight o'clock nine o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, he sent me a voice message, said, Nate, I'm proud of you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I have an occurs to share this with you, yeah, that's why.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, but if this is what you feel God is called you to do, you need to do it in person.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man, my heart was being through my chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, no, it was being through my chest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, because one thing to send a text message, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's another thing to have to sit in front of the person that you've dialed your life to, and your mentor, who, you know, you also compromised your relationship with and to let them know that you messed up in every way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he was like, I already taught to her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's willing to meet with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The ball is in your core if you want to do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ross said they're like, man, it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I agreed to do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was probably the hardest thing that I've ever ever had to do with my life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So did you give names of people that you talk to?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So did you give names of people that you talk to and you kind of, because I don't want nobody to jump out and just be like, what, that was easier.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like how deep did you go and you just say, hey, I did do this, kind of the act of what it was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, my, my marriage, the way that I compromise my marriage, just to be candid is through conversations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the picture videos, say, and through some sexual contact, right, which doesn't make it less
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm saying, of an offense, like it is what it is, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, although I never fully had sex with someone, there was sexual contact, right, Maya.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, that's what I explained.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't feel the need to necessarily get into names unless she wanted them, she wanted names, as she would have said, who are they?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would have been willing to give those names.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But at that stage, the relationship was already over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's even something that you wanted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I was just transparent about the infractions, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: For some people that maybe still be in relationships, and God has called in them to actually confess to their spouse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that may be something that they have to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It may be something that the person that is looking for, the closure may need in order to be able to move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the best way to do that would be,
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[SPEAKER_03]: in front of a therapist, I don't know if it would be why I should do that outside of outside of that because I think that the therapist will help them to be able to navigate through that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's what I would do, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's something that I don't know that's the conversation that you have on the edge of the bed, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you got to make sure that you hold the spirit later.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've ever breathed there, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: All the fellas would be like, man, I love Nate, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Baby, I got something to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like literally be led by Holy Spirit, because a lot of times when we hear these testimonies, like, oh, I'll be on, I'm convicted.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because that's what behavior that's going on, that I know stems from the anger that she has for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that could bleed off into the ones that we were blessed to procreate and love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because there are parts of them that may remind her of me and the version that I was, I don't know longer than a person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She could bleed on somebody that didn't cut her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It definitely takes wisdom, and it's about being obedient to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: God gives different people different instructions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think a lot of the instruction can be attached to what he's called you to do as well.
18:21
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, like one of the, one of the terms that I've coined over the years as I've just navigated in this space is masculine vulnerability.
18:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to be difficult to be a poster child for masculine vulnerability.
18:36
[SPEAKER_03]: If I haven't first modeled that in front of the people that I've heard, you know, I'm saying that in front of the people that I've lied to, you know what I'm saying?
18:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I just had to get it all out and open.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Specifically for what I'm called to do.
18:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think that's why I'm getting tricked in the chest real quick because this was Holy Spirit lit.
18:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It's last night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I told Nate that I wanted to sit down with him and I don't think I was just telling him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I felt like it was a god of point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I felt like it was an assignment that I needed to, like, this ain't not going to do with cameras, like, just over there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then cameras get an opportunity to be here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and now I understand why like I'm shook like I'm professional right so I'm able to keep going but I hear like in my heart that this is the issue and it can be ugly if I face it different because in my my it's like checking the box
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've confessed, I've talked, I've moved on if it's crazy and this and this, but we still have to be together in some capacity because you know, we have beautiful children and I don't want my children to have to deal with the specifically my boys to have to deal with the residual effects of something that dad didn't face properly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so when you also speak about the call,
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[SPEAKER_04]: how can I be a beacon of hope, a person who's now on this side, who will be married again, will be another beacon of hope of what it looks like for reconciliation and his self and in relationship, without making sure that I like bury the hatchet with a person that said, hey man, I wasn't totally, I was honest, but I was totally transparent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I was just telling him boldly, like, yeah,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't say what needed to be said, and I said what I wanted to say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so yeah, that's a real thing.
20:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think for a lot of people they're checking off about you, right?
20:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think I think in that regard that it's not, a lot of times it's about the heart behind it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
20:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause that's really what God is after.
20:52
[SPEAKER_03]: He's after the heart behind it.
20:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will be curious to know whether or not your ex-wife understands the remorse and your heart behind whatever it was that was done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I would be curious to know, you know, I'm saying like, I think from me, bro, in that
21:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about, I was weeping, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because it was an acknowledgement of the fact that I really messed this up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I really broke a vow in the covenant that I made between me and God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
21:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And I literally said in that meeting, like, yo, I have to answer the God.
21:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, he forgives us, right?
21:53
[SPEAKER_03]: But we haven't given the count.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to answer to God for how I dishonored you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I literally have to answer the guy for how I just honored you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've just honored you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've just honored my mentors and the people that expected me to be a man of integrity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've just honored my colleague.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, so I wanted her to feel that and I know that.
22:23
[SPEAKER_04]: So now you've done that and you feel like you're obedient to God, what burden do you feel was lifted because of your obedience?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What happened because of your obedience?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I say?
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[SPEAKER_04]: On the other side of obedience, there's this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, on the other side of obedience, what does it look like for Nate?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I personally believe that because of my obedience and that particular thing, that it opened the door of
22:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, it allowed me to be transparent with the world in a way that I would not have been able to had I not been transparent with her, right?
23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: It kind of opened the floodgates, because now there are no secrets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, there are no secrets.
23:08
[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
23:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm able to stand on stage, sit on stage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm able to speak in the people's lives, knowing that,
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[SPEAKER_03]: everything that was done out and done in the dark is now in the light he had in them saying and I have God's blessing not because I got it perfect right but I was willing to I'll give an example of what I'm saying and I'm coming back to what I was going to say David broke all 10 into commandments when he fell with
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[SPEAKER_03]: God took one of his children.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a result of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was the judgment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was the death that occurred because of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And after that, we still see God's hand on David's life, but David said, again, as you were alone, have I said, right, like I have to confess this to you, acknowledge my fault, acknowledge my need for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, there is judgment, my relationship died, my reputation, bro, I'm not even gonna talk about the reputation side of it.
24:15
[SPEAKER_03]: My relationship, my mentor to this day is still not the same.
24:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so there are things that I lost in the process.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are things that had to die in the process.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And two things can be true at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And because of the act of obedience to acknowledge my frailty and to confess my false, I now get to walk in a level of healing that I would not have been able to walk in, had I not confirmed.
24:36
[SPEAKER_03]: The Bible says confess your false, one to another that you might be healed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We go to God for forgiveness, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we confess our false to one another for healing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I get to walk in another level of healing because I was willing to confess my false.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All I'm really saying is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: that there is a level of healing and freedom that we walk in when we are beating to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm walking and healing and freedom because of it.
25:06
[SPEAKER_04]: So the gift from the obedience is a freedom, Pearl.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a freedom, it's, I don't have any secrets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have any secrets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One of the worst things that you can experience as someone who stands in front of people, as it's standing front of them, knowing that you have skeletons in your closet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: For me, I had to reframe,
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[SPEAKER_03]: how I even view, you know, because she was actually the one that went to my mentors and told them everything that you know what I'm saying?
25:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
25:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know what I found out, you know, there's some things that she actually, there was some things that she found out prior to me even confessing, right?
25:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I wanted to give the details, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to give the details.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: but I would also say, but I had to reframe the way that I viewed it, right?
26:05
[SPEAKER_03]: She would not have had anything that she could even share.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Had I been living a life with integrity?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like in my mind, I'm like, you know what all starts with me, right?
26:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I could have handled my frustrations in the marriage, I could have handled those things differently, but I saw it comfort in other places, right?
26:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And so because of that, I gave her, if she shot the gun, I gave her the bullets.
26:28
[SPEAKER_04]: So you and your mom brought you, y'all like, feel the same.
26:31
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, be mad at her.
26:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Because of what she spoke, she couldn't shoot a gun unless you had the bullet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I gave this bullet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what he said.
26:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a blind bullet.
26:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, that's what he said.
26:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: verbabble?
26:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bro, she had nothing to do with this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I gave it a bullet, mad at her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did.
26:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Here you go.
26:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But I hear men.
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[SPEAKER_04]: say all of the things that you're saying.
26:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And we take personal accountability for the parts that we play for.
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[SPEAKER_04]: if we ever point the finger and like, hey, these are some of the things that she did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, he's not taking part in no kind of building.
27:10
[SPEAKER_04]: But then when it comes to women, they get an opportunity like he did this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He did, I traditionally never hear a woman say, man, you know, maybe seven per second.
27:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Say, hey, that was all me.
27:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, that was all me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got that wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I really mess my manager for, you know, a foolish woman tears down her own house.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was a foolish, my brother.
27:29
[SPEAKER_04]: So, is it important for a man just to take personal accountability?
27:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's still have these questions more of some hurt at home on the inside of them, even if that person never really sees the faults in your way?
27:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's important for a man to acknowledge the entire story.
27:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
27:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's important for a man to acknowledge the truth.
27:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And I believe that two things can be true at the same time.
27:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I think when it comes to personal accountability,
27:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It's always important for us to focus on the part that we play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, also being honest about the part that they play, right?
28:04
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm typically, I typically don't talk about in public spaces.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I typically don't talk about the grievances that I may have had with her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's me and they're like, yo, is somebody ever going to look at the fact
28:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Man, see hit me bro, I couldn't get a word in it bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was belittle in front of everybody bro in front of my children.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She talked to me this way.
28:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying that that's what happened to me But because I now coach me, I hear a lot of things just like you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I say hey man
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can't totally focus on what you're doing, she's doing because ultimately you have to be accountable for your own personal access.
28:51
[SPEAKER_04]: But these are real issues that are going to, but then going through, but then mainstream media.
28:56
[SPEAKER_04]: If a man ever said, man, are we going to talk about it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are we going to talk about the fact that the reason why I actually cheated is because I wasn't a mature man.
29:05
[SPEAKER_04]: But she was with all the sex for the last six months.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's for a life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, this is what I'm hearing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I didn't even want to be in no coaching, helping space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But that's what God has put me with like hundreds of me and that's how to do that come here.
29:18
[SPEAKER_04]: You're a little more talk to you a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the ones that I look at this much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because yeah, this is a lot of y'all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna pick my battle for it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But what do we do for me and who don't necessarily have the maturity to see their accountability?
29:29
[SPEAKER_04]: But can I see their fault in it because what she's done is just so big.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She cheated on me, bro.
29:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
29:36
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's how it looks like.
29:38
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
29:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's um, that is a,
29:43
[SPEAKER_03]: That is a very nuanced space, right?
29:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that it's important for anybody that's talking about something that's going in their relationship to be honest about both sides.
29:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe ultimately, it always starts with us, in a sense that the woman that you gave me, she actually gave me, she gave me the fruit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She gave me the ammo, the woman you gave me, the woman you gave me, David, you was a fool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, bro, that's what I'm saying, like, like, it's nothing new under the sun, right?
30:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, like, yes, she, she should have never gave you that fruity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She shouldn't, she shouldn't have even been talking to the serpent for a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying, but at the end of the day, because you are the head, I'm holding you accountable, right?
30:33
[SPEAKER_03]: What Adam said was absolutely correct, we can't, we can't, this credit and what he said, but look at the way that guy handled it.
30:41
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, yes, that's the case, but I gave you the instruction.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He filled with them saying, and so,
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[SPEAKER_03]: regardless of how we slice it, even if they are doing wrong, it doesn't justify our actions to do wrong, because two wrongs will make it right, right?
31:00
[SPEAKER_03]: We should acknowledge it.
31:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And I believe as men, we have to do a better job of handling our responses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: handling and this is this doesn't take the weight off of what they've done.
31:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that women need to be accountable too.
31:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that women need to go and get help too.
31:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that women need to understand the consequences of their actions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
31:25
[UNKNOWN]: And
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that the way that we respond is important as well.
31:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And we have to become more mature men in terms of how we respond.
31:36
[SPEAKER_03]: If not, then you just have two wrongs.
31:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You have two people fighting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have two people that are not mature.
31:41
[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
31:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, we got to honor that.
31:46
[SPEAKER_04]: What does love look like the second time for Nate?
31:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it difficult now to
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[SPEAKER_04]: choose a woman of your liking after going through marriage and divorce?
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I just feel like I'm more patient.
31:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And I can see that.
31:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And that process, right?
32:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not, and I'm not even saying that.
32:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, some people talk about being patient, but they're still knocking everything down, right?
32:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be transparent with you, bro.
32:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been on this journey of, of, of abstinence.
32:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, where it's like, yo, I really want clarity when it comes to how I'm choosing.
32:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to choose because I'm choosing with my second head.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We feel what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to, I want to choose based upon the most suitable help made for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
32:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like sometimes that can be clouded when we, when we didn't end up on it.
32:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And it could be easy for us not to make a choice because we're getting our knee satisfied in so many different spaces, right?
32:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, it's just like yo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: scale back, you feel what I'm saying.
32:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Take your time.
32:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I rush the first time around, right?
32:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I felt like I was at a place in my life where I was ready to be married, but that didn't necessarily mean that the person that was in front of me that I was dating at the time was the person that I was supposed to marry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, it's just about slowing down, taking my time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are interested suitors, but just because
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the best fit for me, you know what I'm saying?
33:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've really been in prayer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, God show me the person that you have for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't mess up twice, right?
33:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's a real fear of my growth.
33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't mess up twice, right?
33:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, it's almost safer for me to be single until I know.
33:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it a day in pool day?
33:33
[SPEAKER_04]: because I hear people like, man, go home.
33:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you got any of that night?
33:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm Beyonce Johnson's like, I don't know what bull y'all was doing.
33:41
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's so about it.
33:44
[SPEAKER_04]: You got to be my work.
33:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I know this.
33:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It's something to pull.
33:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes it is.
33:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Where are you guys at?
33:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I believe that you attract who you are.
33:53
[SPEAKER_04]: And so there are a lot of suitable candidates out there who, you know, come for a single man.
34:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I think just when you began,
34:02
[SPEAKER_04]: When you begin to get notoriety, some level of fame, level of success, one of the one percent, I think, you know, gets a little bit more difficult on motor, but in terms of the pool, like it's a lot of great people out there that you can meet, but I think to that know itself, you got to be true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got to know who you are to see if you can go to the next one.
34:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was great.
34:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's some decent people out there.
34:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're even some good people out there.
34:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't necessarily believe in the concept of the one.
34:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So what I'm going to say is, I don't necessarily believe in the concept of the one.
34:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that God gives us free will.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
34:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that the concept of the one would mean that there's no free will.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to, I have to marry this person that that goes against everything that.
34:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the Bible says about free will.
34:47
[SPEAKER_03]: He's given us the option to choose.
34:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that there is a such thing that's good, better and best, though, for you.
34:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
34:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So basically, for me, I'm after the best for me.
35:00
[SPEAKER_03]: In relation to it, because I know the impact that a relationship has on every aspect of your life, not just your own life and your own calling, but your children.
35:08
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, I'm saying legacy, you know, I'm saying alignment, it affects all those things.
35:13
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I think there's some good woman out there, but I desire the best person for me.
35:18
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm saying it's such a great answer.
35:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to eat it.
35:21
[SPEAKER_03]: It's honest, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You do this for real.
35:23
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, listen, listen.
35:24
[SPEAKER_04]: It's honest, bro.
35:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I brought you with you, though.
35:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
35:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
35:27
[SPEAKER_04]: You talked a little bit about your dad.
35:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Was my mom and dad together whole time?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All those years?
35:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So, my mom and dad were married for 24 years.
35:37
[SPEAKER_03]: And I watched their relationship deteriorate ultimately of ending in divorce.
35:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And I realized that the verse that talks about how the father bites the sour fruit and the children's teeth are set on edge is an example of what happened in my life.
35:59
[SPEAKER_03]: There was some giants and some demons that my dad didn't conquer and he died with those secrets.
36:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And there were certain things that my mom did find out and it ultimately led to them divorcing.
36:09
[SPEAKER_03]: But there were certain things that he died with, and there were certain giants and demons that he didn't conquer, that I'm now having to fight.
36:17
[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
36:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And so a large part of what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm representing at this stage of my life is my attempt to cooperate with God to properly fight the demons that were not conquered generation before.
36:32
[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
36:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, yo, I have to lay myself down on the altar, right?
36:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to live a life of integrity.
36:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to live a life of purity in order for me to have a chance.
36:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, because I'm still fighting, like, the fight is not over.
36:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not married again yet.
36:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
36:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the fight is not over.
36:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still fighting those demons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel I'm still fighting lust.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still fighting perversion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still fighting pride and arrogance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And all those things that they, and here's the thing, my dad was a pastor before 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually a piquet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I also understand now, looking back hindsight is 2020, the new ounces of,
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[SPEAKER_03]: being in ministry but carrying secrets that you can't tell anybody about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, man, I'm gonna cut the head off that giant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying like, yo, you liable, if I am struggling, you liable to hear in real time, this will that I'm struggling, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was he here?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You feel awkward, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we wait on you to full charge fans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we'll wait on you, and this is the conversation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God, God, God meant for me to be here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like my whole thing is like, you know, my friends and tell you if I'm struggling with something, like I'm keeping it to being a but y'all, I'm struggling with this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I think you had, I feel like you won't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, bro, can I bring the bell?
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[SPEAKER_04]: because if you had it, it's like you won't eat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, girl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And let me judge you to believe that you won't eat, but you really don't want it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, girl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would venture to stay since starting Celebrate Recovery.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think Obama has been a level of transparency, but going to see our Celebrate Recovery is a nationwide ministry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You go for her Tabith time goes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: People who go through alcohol, all-time, all-time, all-time stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the first day I walked in and the worship leader says, I'm a grateful believer in Jesus Christ.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My struggle was sex addiction, met that fed of means, and I'm currently struggling with anger.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My name is, and I was like, at church,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and I'm like, oh my God, and then the son of God walks up he says, I'm a grateful believer in Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I struggle with anger, alcoholism, and I'm currently fighting with my anger.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My name is Boom.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he says, if this is your first time, I want to tell you you're safe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm looking around and I'm just like, and it was like, all the pride.
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[SPEAKER_04]: all the saving face, all of the old my God, my life is over because everybody believes what she see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was bricks fell off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I went for, you know, it's almost two years now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So now when I said all platforms and I begin to talk about, you know, I ate, I was touching the property that, you know, I had inappropriate relationships when I was married.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you two seem so free.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so free, they laugh with me because I kind of put a little joke to them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like, this is what we do every Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is what church has to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What we'll have pastors who have to die with the sin and they're gonna pass it on to their sons.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not talking about your father.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about my father.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like when I met my father, I'm not the co-founder who's still alive I love you the life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But there were some things that I seen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That part got it even with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm not giving it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I told myself, and like that, why you were so hard not to dream?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why you were so hard to keep your eyes straight?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why every time we pray that you say, I pray that my boys get an opportunity to see their dad and the healthy relationship.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I pray that my daughter gets an opportunity to see their father and the healthy relationship.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the only example that I can't sit single.
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[SPEAKER_04]: right like I want them to see day I want them to see how you treat a woman why do you praise so much because I said that's in our bloodline and we can't it got to leave with me now I can't take the voice I did that right y'all got the handle that correct right but when you come to alcoholism one menizing manipulations
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, being a hold just because you can, that ear with me and we don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why, because it's in our bloodline.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This ain't even something that I'm supposed to be fighting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It should've been cut off before I got here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not letting my children go through that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But you got to be free to share where you are because if you hide it, he won't eat you with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I won't let, I won't let my children.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I won't let that happen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna be the sacrificial lamb bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna walk in the level.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've been integrity that's gonna scare the devil, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's gonna scare the like I'm gonna repair the issue out of you, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm gonna repair you, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like my father asked me what's up tonight's conversation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He came in with it, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's a Abraham.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we don't even look at just no more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, what'd you talk about?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm focused.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was like, you know what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't see you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got a wife and I'm on this with like, I know, probably I cheated, it is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we ain't got to do that bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, God has, I got to know the older I get, the more urgent obedience becomes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just having this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was literally just having this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One of my boys called me, he's actually, he saw that I was in a land that I had posted on my nose.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, are you here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, yeah, he was like, man, what you knocking down, I said nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, what you mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I'm not knocking nothing down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that you all, you did it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I knew that I said, bro, I promise you I said, man, I said, I'm not on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, this season of my life is about obedience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying, like one of the most beautiful things that we can give the God is our idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, there's no money that we can give them, there's nothing physically that we can give them, but we can give them my heart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially for people that know better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, bro, we got a different level of accountability, like a different responsibility to it, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I said, bro, I'm not on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, you know, and I am God knows, bro, I am doing my best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do I fall sometimes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All the time, where I'm on a street, man, I'm four months and five months and six months and I ain't not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not putting myself in the compromise of the position and I blow it all up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have I done that before several times, bro?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm at a place in my life where I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna keep trying and trying and trying until I get this thing right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I have a deep desire to please you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a deep desire to honor you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a deep desire to break the generational curses that have existed on my family for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's what I'm after, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm after.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have I arrived or have I attained after absolutely not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I promise you, bro, I'm fighting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: hey what's going on uh listen let me tell you something i got a good look community and i'm calling it little because it ain't but a few hundred people in that but it can be bigger and we can call it big because it's supposed to be big because everything that we want to do in this life we want to make sure that we maximize the opportunity
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[SPEAKER_04]: you said, Willie, what does it have in this community?
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[SPEAKER_04]: On Mondays, we're going to teach you how to really work those finances.
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[SPEAKER_04]: On Tuesday, we have job opportunities.
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[SPEAKER_04]: On Wednesday, it's all about relationships.
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[SPEAKER_04]: On Thursdays, you get an opportunity to learn scholarship opportunities for your teens and your college students.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, Friday, we just turned up, might be a celebrity guest in there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But more importantly, the flat out family, which is our community is here to serve you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's so many
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I flat out family community is so important to us because those are the people that make a small investment into their future and we provide the resources to make sure that you're equipped.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, so be a part of the community, flatoutfamily.com, or just click the little link in this amazing video, flat out family, flat out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My whole reason for starting a platform that I recently started was because I wanted to create a safe space for people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's called the Love Room, it's called the Heart Room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Heart Room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the tagline is a safe space to love feeling you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The whole goal was for people to be able to hear conversations and stories of people that they admire who have walked through dark places and survive, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we had Kitty and in the last one, and she talked a lot about her journey through some of her challenges to begin the woman of God that she is today, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot, there's a lot of transparency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is what I believe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is what the Bible says, that they overcame by the blood of the land and by the word of their testimony.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hold on for one second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They overcame by the blood of the land.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We shot about the blood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about the blood, you know, saying the blood, say the blood, the blood, the blood, the blood, come on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying, right, like the blood, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about the blood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We understand the power and the efficacy of the blood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's a second part to it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They overcame not just by the blood, but by the word of the testimony.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The enemy has convinced a lot of us that our testimony is not valid because he's using shame to overshadow it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, if more people were just honest about their journey,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know everybody's polish now, I know everybody's buttoned up now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know the speeches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I look quick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What was the journey like though?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me, bud, what giant did you have to conquer in order to arrive at this space in your life, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so there's something about the testimony, but that's just as powerful as the blood when it comes to overcoming.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That roughness feathers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just as power as the blood seems sent to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then skip a beat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, it didn't, it's like an, which is a conjunction of two meaning that they are both equally in that court and equally.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ruffle feathers, if you come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's in your, it's in the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say, you gotta take that up with him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My whole thing is when we,
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are some people that will never come into a church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They will never come into a religious setting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The only opportunity that they have to hear about the resurrecting power of God is through your testimony.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's it, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so like for me, as we're in a lot of these secondless spaces, you know what I believe is where God has called us to be, like our ability to, one of the things that I love about watching you on stage, girls that you're always rehashing your testimony.
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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I'm saying I was this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You challenged me on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you just boom, like you talking to somebody that that's been through the forest, been through that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is what I learned.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You do that a lot, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when I see it, I'm like, bro, this is what we don't only buy, but that's something I'm going to ever read.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Last question, and I'm out your way when you look at the life of being able to see your father be a pastor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and then go home and kind of get an opportunity to see what the truth is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How did that affect the shape you know where you feel like you're called to?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you do you enjoy the traditional church?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Or do you say it's got to be something else that God wants to use to usher the king that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, you are really good at this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know
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[SPEAKER_03]: of all the interviews that I've been on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been on a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You think on somebody here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been on a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's ever asked me that question before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, so let me first say that a lot of what I discovered about my father, I discovered
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[SPEAKER_03]: after he was done pastoring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he passed over 14 years in Philly and then he moved here to join a large church in Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of the things I didn't discover until after he was done pastoring, but hindsight is 2020.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it did if it affected my desire to do anything with the judicial church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but it wasn't just what I saw from my father, um, in attending one of the largest black churches in America, like that was the whole reason why we moved from Philly to Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I might also saw a lot of things there that caused me to fill out many fake, yeah, for what I'm saying, like, oh, and for me, I always had so much reverence for God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that I felt like, man, if I wasn't going to be 100% real about it, like, I'm cool on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, there's a lot of other things that I could do, other than play with God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I've been here for years, you feel what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'd rather be all the way on one side, all the way on the other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, it affected my,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Early on, before I mature, it affected my desire to even do anything in the traditional church because I'm like, man, I'm tired of your people are not actually living with they talking about and, you know, saying, I'm cool on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, I just disassociated myself from ministry altogether.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and then after kind of going through my own journey and realizing that we're all flawed and we all have a level of hypocrisy in us and we all have spaces in us that need Jesus, truly need Jesus, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: After going through your own failures, you develop more grace for other people because you needed for yourself type of thing and so I think that was a part of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then also I am grateful for the space that God has called me to now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like
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[SPEAKER_03]: because of how nuanced my journey is, God has called me into secular spaces because I can speak to those spaces, but I also have a level of biblical understanding that can bridge the gap between secular spaces and the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can go into the church and not to talk to the church and be a little edgy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be honest about that, but then I can also go into the world and I can speak to the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: about the gospel in a way that's palatable to them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so he kind of has me like in this this weird and between somebody prophesied to me years ago and they said Nate, God has made you a bridge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And at the time I didn't understand it because I was doing ministry in a very popular and very large black church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Parts inside the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I didn't, you know, when I was young, when I was young,
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[SPEAKER_03]: The younger, when I was like a teenager, bro, I wanted to be in a traveling event evangelist.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, hey, it's cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They get to travel from city to city.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They make a good money doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And all of that, and they still get to speak in the people's lives.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And God is like, nah, I've called you to be a bridge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still going to take you all over the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to make it so that you're so attractive to the world that they want to understand the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and I'm going to make it so that you're so relatable to the church that they come to you to understand the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy, but it did affect my desire to be a part of the traditional church, in a sense, but that was an image for perspective as I'm a short of a lot of brother, he got me working on both sides.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you still believe that you need a shepherd?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that Jesus is my shepherd.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And
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[SPEAKER_03]: I also believe in the mission of the local church so when I say that I'm saying that I believe in the importance of stewardship, right, and so there are people in my life that can pull my code to and that can speak into my life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: there are ministries out there would like to serve your own resource because you know where you want to go, it is evangelism and they're a good shepherd like my shepherd Bishop Ron there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He invest to make sure that I'm able to do what I need to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It ain't nothing that I can, but I didn't say, I don't need like, I don't need that just because I because when I went through the wars, the place where I used to pass or then he didn't give me a call.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or who are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I can either stay there or I can stay true to the fact that I believe that this is guys away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I believe in the local church.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I believe in my pastor who sees the call on my life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That says, what resources do you need to make sure that you can continue to do this full time?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I just think that God has that same type of grace.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that that that that's available for you and it's just my prayer that you know that you just being prayer like I just got to go do this and I that I believe I believe in the maturation of how God wants to do it just when it comes I just want you to have your lens on yeah when you go to the heart room yes and somebody like me bro hey
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a pastor, and I just want to tell you, man, I really appreciate what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not just up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want that traditional setting to kind of do a way to them, but there are ministries who are looking for you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are ministries who want to pour in, there are ministries who want to encourage, there are ministries who are sharing your stuff, there are ministries who understand how difficult
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[SPEAKER_04]: The breeze don't have traditional asphalt under it to hold it up there gaps in the breeze.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a water corrode in the breeze.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if a traffic jam get on the breeze, it compromised.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If it's too hip, it's way, look at what you've been prophesied of.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It looks good, but honestly, it's the linchpin between land and land.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's stuff that can destroy you in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're the linchpin.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If the linchpin breaks, nobody can get to the other side.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How difficult is it for the linchpin?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a lot of weight.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It knows where we're going,
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[SPEAKER_04]: God, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's crazy, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
54:59
[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're absolutely correct, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm completely open to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm completely open to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, when I'm what I'm gonna say, what I'm gonna say, I believe that the church is Christ's bride.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It may have some whole tendency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It all snows you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm saying through what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It feels, what does your heart's bright?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a bride that he's still perfecting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just, I firmly believe in the mission of the church.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They probably even now, as I said here, they're probably ministries right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know what to do.
55:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you know I asked you for nothing to sit up, you know, if you'd subscribe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But what I want you to do is I want you to follow me.
55:48
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you're a ministry right now, know, a lot of you all watch.
55:51
[SPEAKER_04]: And you were excited about what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you just like, man, whatever this young man needs, I want to be a blessing to him.
55:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you follow him and just get in his DM if you're a ministry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you like, hey, we just want him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We want to support you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I just believe this, a lot of times we got to put gas in cars that can get to the spot faster than I low car.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we can't be a part of the stage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can't be a part of the influence.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we can be a part of someone in and making sure that we do what we're supposed to do to make sure that he can give in this message.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In a way that don't have him taking compromise and opportunities because he got to pay his bills and then he's not asking me Dude, I don't know where it might be a trio you now, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But if you're a trio you know that means I believe the anointing that you honor is also the anointing that you receive So I just want to challenge you guys now and I think I've only done this one time
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[SPEAKER_04]: In the history of this show in two years, I just feel real strong that I'm not being like your past and not trying to make it spooky, but I just believe not that the Lord is probably prick your heart to say, how can I make sure he get on these stages and give that Bible the way I just heard because I never heard it like this, or I don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If that's you, I want you to put it right here so come on, put his, put his DM and all that stuff right there, all that information.
57:05
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be in this YouTube and it may just be one person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You may just be one person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember the Bible, they had to pay some taxes and they was thinking they were gonna have to do a whole lot and Jesus like, amen, go to them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One of the fish over there and go pay seeds of what seed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything was in their once-five.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You may be the one person who can help, expand what God is doing in His life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm gonna help too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I believe in it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I need more soldiers out here who's able to be a bridge.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Love yourself more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Glad I'm.
57:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, the heartroom tour is here and I'm super excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm talking about live podcasts recording.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about poetry.
57:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about a lot of Q&A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you'll have some of the asked questions about things that don't own your heart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to hear conversation that's going to stimulate your heart impact your soul.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So listen, I want you to grab your ticket, the heartroom tour.com.
57:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Check to see if your city is on the list.
57:54
[SPEAKER_02]: If not fly in, let's hang out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's have a good time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait to see you in a room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love you, my love you, my love you, my love you, my love you, my love you,