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Why You're Always HUNGRY on a Diet (7 Mistakes Killing Your Fat Loss) | Ep 422 · Wits & Weights | Strength & Fat Loss Over 40

• 0:00
  Philip Pape: If you've ever been in a fat loss phase, in a calorie deficit, trying to lose weight, but you're constantly hungry, battling cravings, and feeling like your body is working against you, it probably is.
• 0:11
  Philip Pape: Today I'm breaking down the seven most common mistakes that trigger your hunger hormones, tank your energy, and sabotage your fat loss results, even when you're doing everything else right.
• 0:22
  Philip Pape: You'll learn why your body fights back during a diet, which mistakes you're probably making without realizing it, and exactly how to fix them so you can lose fat without feeling like you are constantly white-knuckling it.
• 0:33
  Philip Pape: Miss even one of these, and you could be stuck in a cycle of hunger and frustration for months.
• 0:38
  Philip Pape: Welcome to Wits and Weights, the show that helps you build a strong, healthy physique using evidence, engineering, and efficiency.
• 0:54
  Philip Pape: I'm your host, certified nutrition coach Philip Hate, and founder of the Fitness Lab app.
• 0:58
  Philip Pape: And today we're kicking off a special eight-episode series.
• 1:01
  Philip Pape: I'm calling the Appetite Series.
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  Philip Pape: Eight episodes throughout January focused entirely on understanding and managing hunger so you can finally take control of your fat loss without the constant struggle.
• 1:13
  Philip Pape: This is one of the most common issues that I hear from listeners and clients more than anything else, because we talk about going into fat loss and then you start to execute.
• 1:23
  Philip Pape: And then the pushback is I think like I'm doing all the things right, but I'm always hungry.
• 1:29
  Philip Pape: What am I doing wrong?
• 1:30
  Philip Pape: Because the hunger itself is affecting your adherence and often preventing you from successfully completing the diet.
• 1:37
  Philip Pape: The answer is usually one or more of these seven mistakes I'm gonna cover today.
• 1:41
  Philip Pape: And once you understand the physiology behind why your body creates very powerful hunger signals during a calorie deficit, we're talking hormones like leptin, ghrelin, GOP1.
• 1:51
  Philip Pape: And by the way, we're gonna dive into those hormones in a future episode in more detail.
• 1:55
  Philip Pape: You'll see exactly why certain approaches backfire and others tend to work.
• 1:58
  Philip Pape: Now, before we get into these, I want to give you a reason to stick around until the very end.
• 2:03
  Philip Pape: I've started to include really cool tips at the end that are very practical and actionable and sometimes surprising.
• 2:08
  Philip Pape: So after I cover the seven mistakes, I'm gonna share a tactic that can help you starting right away to make hunger easier to manage before you even cut a single calorie.
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  Philip Pape: These are the kind of tricks I really love because they help with hunger without having to increase or reduce calories.
• 2:23
  Philip Pape: It's something I've seen transform how a lot of people approach this from a psychological perspective, and it's a real simple tip that you can use.
• 2:30
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• 2:34
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• 3:06
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• 3:08
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  Philip Pape: Now, before I get into the seven mistakes, you have to understand why hunger happens in the first place during a calorie deficit.
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  Philip Pape: Because once you understand the mechanism, the solutions become more obvious.
• 3:21
  Philip Pape: So when you restrict calories for fat loss, your body doesn't just sit there and let you burn through your fat.
• 3:26
  Philip Pape: That would be awesome, right?
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  Philip Pape: If you just said, I'm gonna cut calories, my body's body's gonna pull that from fat, I'm gonna lose.
• 3:31
  Philip Pape: It's very it's purely mathematical.
• 3:33
  Philip Pape: Calories in, calories out, we're done.
• 3:34
  Philip Pape: No, your body is going to push back, it's going to respond with very powerful hormonal changes designed to get you to eat more.
• 3:42
  Philip Pape: And they're also designed to get you to move less, believe it or not.
• 3:45
  Philip Pape: And this is this is that survival programming we've hit on in the past.
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  Philip Pape: Your body doesn't know that you're trying to fit into your old genes, you know, and reduce your waste size.
• 3:54
  Philip Pape: It thinks that there's something wrong with your food supply, that there's some sort of famine going on.
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  Philip Pape: So here's what happens physiologically.
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  Philip Pape: Okay, the first thing is your leptin drops.
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  Philip Pape: Leptin is the hormone produced by fat cells and it signals fullness to your brain.
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  Philip Pape: So when you diet, leptin levels decline in proportion to the aggressiveness of your fat loss and how much fat you've actually lost.
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  Philip Pape: Less leptin means less satiety signaling.
• 4:20
  Philip Pape: Satiety is a word we're gonna use all the time.
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  Philip Pape: It means fullness.
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  Philip Pape: And so with less of that fullness signaling, you actually feel hungrier.
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  Philip Pape: Then to top it all off, we have ghrelin.
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  Philip Pape: Ghrelin goes up.
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  Philip Pape: Ghrelin is your hunger hormone.
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  Philip Pape: So you have leptin, which is your fullness hormone, goes down.
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  Philip Pape: Ghrelin's your hunger hormone, which is produced by your stomach.
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  Philip Pape: And that tells your brain, hey, it's time to eat.
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  Philip Pape: So during calorie restriction, ghrelin goes up and then stays elevated even after you eat, right?
• 4:49
  Philip Pape: Because your body's trying to get you to eat more.
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  Philip Pape: You haven't eaten enough.
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  Philip Pape: You need to eat more.
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  Philip Pape: One study found that overweight participants who lost about 30 pounds had significantly higher ghrelin levels a full year after their weight loss.
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  Philip Pape: And then, so, so even a year later, there was some adaptation going on.
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  Philip Pape: Now, I'm not saying this is gonna happen.
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  Philip Pape: There's a separate issue we need to discuss with the aggressiveness of your diet and how you do it.
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  Philip Pape: But in general, this occurs when you die.
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  Philip Pape: Other satiety hormones also decline.
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  Philip Pape: So we don't talk about these a lot, but there are there's there's peptide YY, there's GLP1.
• 5:22
  Philip Pape: Everybody knows GLP1 now because of the drugs that are the antagonist drugs or the agonist drugs for those, the weight loss medications.
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  Philip Pape: Colocystokinine or yeah, kinine, I think is how you pronounce it.
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  Philip Pape: These are all hormones that normally help you feel full after eating, and they decrease again when you're in a deficit to try to get you to eat more.
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  Philip Pape: So you're getting hit from both sides, more hunger signals, fewer fullness signals.
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  Philip Pape: And then to top it all off, your metabolism adapts, and this is correlated with the leptin.
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  Philip Pape: So as your leptin falls, your brain down regulates your metabolic rate to conserve energy.
• 5:57
  Philip Pape: It's saying, okay, well, you're less full, so we need to use less energy and compensate.
• 6:02
  Philip Pape: This is adaptive thermogenesis at its core.
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  Philip Pape: It's your body trying to defend its energy stores.
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  Philip Pape: It's trying to keep, it's not trying to keep you fat, it's trying to keep you from losing energy you've got and try to make the most of it.
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  Philip Pape: So now you're hungrier and you're burning fewer calories.
• 6:18
  Philip Pape: And so that's when we talk about the biology that you're hitting up against, and it's very confusing for many, that's what we're talking about.
• 6:24
  Philip Pape: The good news is you can work with these systems once you understand them.
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  Philip Pape: You can, yes, hack around them a little bit, but even legitimately work with them to minimize their effects somewhat, not completely, of course.
• 6:37
  Philip Pape: But this whole episode appetite series we're doing, including today's episode, is we're gonna start with the mistakes, and then we're gonna dive into all the science and other strategies as we go for you to get better and better at understanding the complete picture.
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  Philip Pape: So let's get into mistake number one: not eating enough protein.
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  Philip Pape: This is the most common mistake I see.
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  Philip Pape: It's the one with the biggest impact on hunger, and for a lot of you, it is a game changer.
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  Philip Pape: If you're already eating enough protein, you can probably skip to the next one.
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  Philip Pape: This is so important.
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  Philip Pape: Protein is the most satiating macro.
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  Philip Pape: Okay, way more satiating than fat and carbs.
• 7:12
  Philip Pape: There, there's definitely some mythology around fat being more satiating, but it's actually not true.
• 7:16
  Philip Pape: Protein stimulates the release of satiety hormones like GLP1 and colocystokinin, and simultaneously suppresses ghrelin.
• 7:25
  Philip Pape: So it has an opposite effect, the opposite effect that we want on these hormones that I just talked about, where higher protein intake leads to lower hunger and better diet adherence.
• 7:36
  Philip Pape: But many of you are eating 50, 60 grams of protein, right?
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  Philip Pape: And there's a lot of discussion about low protein diets today and how you only need a minimum and people are eating too much protein.
• 7:45
  Philip Pape: Look, if your focus is body composition and health, longevity, building muscle, holding on to muscle, and heck, just being more full in a diet, protein is going to be extremely important.
• 7:57
  Philip Pape: And it can be harder for some people than others, depending on your diet.
• 8:00
  Philip Pape: If you are have a higher fat diet and prefer that, or if you're vegetarian or vegan, or you're you just don't prioritize protein earlier in the day at breakfast and lunch and try to cram it all in later, there's a lot of reasons people don't get enough besides simply not being aware they need more or how much they're taking.
• 8:15
  Philip Pape: So it's all important.
• 8:17
  Philip Pape: And I'll say the fix is simple, but none of this is ever simple.
• 8:20
  Philip Pape: I'm gonna tell you, hey, get 0.701 gram of protein per pound of body weight.
• 8:25
  Philip Pape: That's your daily target.
• 8:26
  Philip Pape: And practically it helps to just distribute it across your meals and usually front load it in the day.
• 8:31
  Philip Pape: For other reasons we'll we'll hit on when we talk about hormones in this and other episodes.
• 8:36
  Philip Pape: Because you want to keep those satiety hormones nice and happy so that your body at least thinks it's fairly full, which then of course prevents cravings and eating later on, which is what we're trying to do here, isn't it?
• 8:46
  Philip Pape: It's not so much the hunger, it's what we do when we get hungry, right?
• 8:51
  Philip Pape: So, you know, if you weigh, let's say 160 pounds, you're aiming for like 115 to 160 grams of protein a day.
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  Philip Pape: So you have a nice wide range.
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  Philip Pape: It doesn't have to be the full 160, but you shouldn't also be getting just 60, right?
• 9:04
  Philip Pape: And it helps if you're an omnivore where you can get it from meat, fish, eggs, dairy, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese.
• 9:11
  Philip Pape: But there's, you know, plants have uh plenty of protein too if you have the right types of plants, and soy-based products have a lot of protein, and you can get it from whey powder and other plant-based powders.
• 9:23
  Philip Pape: So there's so many ways to do it.
• 9:24
  Philip Pape: That's not an excuse.
• 9:25
  Philip Pape: There's a way to plant it in and get that.
• 9:27
  Philip Pape: Um, I have a client who's doing my rapid fat loss protocol, and she's she's at a very, very low calorie level, like sub 1000.
• 9:33
  Philip Pape: She's very small, and again, this is a this is more of an extreme protocol that only takes two weeks, and she's still getting like 120 grams of protein.
• 9:40
  Philip Pape: You're like, well, how's that possible?
• 9:42
  Philip Pape: It's totally possible.
• 9:43
  Philip Pape: If you do the math, it's possible.
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  Philip Pape: So that's mistake number one.
• 9:46
  Philip Pape: All right, so if you're not doing that, put that at the top of your list.
• 9:48
  Philip Pape: Mistake number two is then neglecting fiber, and the corollary to fiber is food volume.
• 9:55
  Philip Pape: And I think these go hand in hand with protein to the extent that I sometimes put them side by side.
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  Philip Pape: Like, make sure you get enough protein and fiber.
• 10:04
  Philip Pape: If you get both, you're solving a lot of issues.
• 10:07
  Philip Pape: And again, that same client I was just talking about, she was wondering, well, how do I keep my fiber higher when the calories are really low?
• 10:13
  Philip Pape: And we again we did the math, we looked at the foods, and there's ways to keep fiber, even in a very low calorie diet, right?
• 10:19
  Philip Pape: And we're not talking about rapid fat loss today.
• 10:20
  Philip Pape: We're talking about a reasonable fat loss diet where you're still eating something over a thousand calories.
• 10:25
  Philip Pape: For many of you, it's closer to 2,000.
• 10:27
  Philip Pape: But either way, it we're trying to get, you know, a certain amount of fiber in there to add bulk to your meals without adding significant calories.
• 10:35
  Philip Pape: Higher fiber foods take longer to chew, they take longer to digest, they physically fill your stomach, and all of those send fullness signals to your brain.
• 10:43
  Philip Pape: When we talk to Sarah Kennedy in a few episodes, one of my interview guests, you're gonna learn some really cool stuff about receptors we have along the lining of our gut, not just our stomach, but our entire digestive lining, that interact with our hormones and send these signals to our brain.
• 10:58
  Philip Pape: It's it's pretty cool.
• 10:59
  Philip Pape: And we know that high fiber diets increase satiety and reduce calorie intake as a result.
• 11:04
  Philip Pape: And that's aside from all the other longevity and health benefits, which if you listen to the carnivore crowd, it's almost like they they somehow think you don't need fiber, which is extremely dangerous.
• 11:14
  Philip Pape: We we know for a fact that higher fiber diets are correlated with better health outcomes than lower fiber diets.
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  Philip Pape: So that alone should be a good enough research.
• 11:22
  Philip Pape: But we also know it has these other helpful effects, including the GI things that it resolves in terms of bowel movements and putting bulk in your stomach, et cetera.
• 11:32
  Philip Pape: The mistake, however, with fiber, it's actually similar to protein.
• 11:36
  Philip Pape: People are trying to save calories by eating small calorie-dense meals, for example, or eating small meals, but they tend to be calorie dense and more processed, and they don't have fiber.
• 11:45
  Philip Pape: So it might be a 500-calorie smoothie, it might be a protein bar, maybe it's some nuts, and they don't really fill you up.
• 11:52
  Philip Pape: And there's a time and place for those, and I'm not saying exclude all of that stuff, right?
• 11:56
  Philip Pape: Nuts are fantastic for micronutrients.
• 11:59
  Philip Pape: But you compare that to like a massive, what they call big-ass salad, right?
• 12:03
  Philip Pape: With grilled chicken, a bunch of vegetables, you know, cucumbers, zucchini, peppers, all that kind of stuff, cruciferous vegetables in there, maybe some raw broccoli, and some reasonable dressing that's a low calorie dressing you like.
• 12:15
  Philip Pape: It's the the if when you look at these side by side, and I'm sure you've seen this on social media, you'll have this tiny handful of something versus a massive bowl.
• 12:23
  Philip Pape: And it's like the bowl of salad has the same or fewer calories.
• 12:26
  Philip Pape: And it seems crazy, but it's true.
• 12:28
  Philip Pape: And that is what's going into your stomach.
• 12:30
  Philip Pape: And now your stomach is physically full.
• 12:31
  Philip Pape: That's all that, that's all it's doing.
• 12:32
  Philip Pape: It's so full that it is, you know, you you've got fiber slowing digestion, you've got water adding volume, you've got protein triggering your satiety hormones, and you've got other compounds and the fact that there's this much food in there also triggering hormones that say, hey, I'm full and I don't need more food, right?
• 12:49
  Philip Pape: And so the fix for this one is, of course, to emphasize those things, to add in those high volume, low-calorie foods to your diet.
• 12:57
  Philip Pape: And this is the kind of thing you can almost just add it without consequence, without even worrying about the calories.
• 13:02
  Philip Pape: You know, again, unless you're trying to count 20 calorie differences.
• 13:06
  Philip Pape: But for most of you, adding in leafy greens and broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, berries, melons, soups, like vegetable soups, even popcorn, guys, like don't like just salted popcorn, believe it or not, can be a nice hack for some people.
• 13:18
  Philip Pape: Yeah, there's some calories in there, but it's very bulky and it's got fiber.
• 13:22
  Philip Pape: So all of these things are options to give you a satisfying quantity of food, you know, while still having the other more nutrient-dense things in there that you enjoy, while still having some indulgences in there.
• 13:34
  Philip Pape: And it won't make your diet feel this small, skimpy bit of food that like you're starving like a little rabbit.
• 13:42
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 13:43
  Philip Pape: That is a recipe for hunger.
• 13:44
  Philip Pape: But if we add in fiber and food volume, which is essentially eating quote unquote more and still losing the weight or losing the fat, because you're not adding calories, you're adding bulk.
• 13:54
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 13:54
  Philip Pape: Mistake number three is surprise under recovery.
• 14:00
  Philip Pape: All right.
• 14:01
  Philip Pape: Now you're like, well, we're talking about hunger, right?
• 14:02
  Philip Pape: Well, yes, poor sleep and high stress are massive variables when it comes to hunger that people underestimate.
• 14:09
  Philip Pape: We're gonna do an entire episode just about those, all right?
• 14:12
  Philip Pape: They because they affect belly fat, which I know a lot of you are concerned about as you get into peri and postmenopause, ladies and men, you know, especially those of you who drink and maybe don't get enough sleep.
• 14:21
  Philip Pape: And they affect hunger, they affect lots of things, as well as cravings, not just hunger, but like cravings for things like sugar and high density foods.
• 14:30
  Philip Pape: Sleep deprivation is a itself a metabolic stressor and it drives overeating.
• 14:35
  Philip Pape: This is clear.
• 14:36
  Philip Pape: Research from 2023 showed that sleep restriction reliably increases the drive to eat, and people consume 250 or more extra calories per day on average.
• 14:46
  Philip Pape: I've seen some studies that say 400 or 500.
• 14:48
  Philip Pape: It's just a lot more calories inadvertently, simply because you had a poor night's sleep, because guess what?
• 14:54
  Philip Pape: Your ghrelin rises, your leptin falls, and now your willpower, you either need more willpower, which we we talk about is not a thing you should ever rely on, your willpower to resist high calorie comfort foods is even further down because of this these hormonal pressures.
• 15:10
  Philip Pape: Chronic stress does the same thing, just through a different pathway.
• 15:14
  Philip Pape: We we know cortisol, right?
• 15:16
  Philip Pape: The stress hormone, it's it stays elevated.
• 15:18
  Philip Pape: It should be cycling and it should essentially fall throughout the day.
• 15:21
  Philip Pape: But for many of us, it stays elevated because of our life stress, physiological stress, and perceived stress, work, finances, family, road rage, whatever it is.
• 15:31
  Philip Pape: It increases your appetite.
• 15:33
  Philip Pape: Okay, that ongoing highly elevated cortisol is gonna make you want high fat, high sugar comfort foods, just like a lack of sleep.
• 15:41
  Philip Pape: Because your body is essentially preparing to refuel because it's in this uh sympathetic mode of your your nervous system is amped up, it perceives a crisis, and your body tries to respond by getting energy.
• 15:54
  Philip Pape: That's it.
• 15:54
  Philip Pape: That's what's going on.
• 15:56
  Philip Pape: It's actually quite simple when you step back, but it's more complicated when we try to do something about it.
• 16:01
  Philip Pape: I understand.
• 16:02
  Philip Pape: The mistake, I think, is trying to push through a fat loss phase and beyond five to six hours of sleep while you're stressed out of your mind.
• 16:10
  Philip Pape: And then you come to me and you say, Why can I not lose weight?
• 16:12
  Philip Pape: I'm in the right calorie deficit.
• 16:14
  Philip Pape: Do I just need to cut calories?
• 16:15
  Philip Pape: I'm like, no, you just need more sleep and less stress, or, you know, at least one of these, at least make an improvement somewhere, right?
• 16:22
  Philip Pape: And trying to push harder in a fat loss phase is just going to exacerbate it.
• 16:26
  Philip Pape: The whole thinking is backward.
• 16:28
  Philip Pape: Your hormones are working against you, and now you're just pushing them to work against you harder.
• 16:32
  Philip Pape: So, of course, the fix for this mistake is to prioritize super high quality sleep when you can get it, building in your rest days from your training, right?
• 16:40
  Philip Pape: Not over-exercising.
• 16:41
  Philip Pape: For some of you, it just might be going from five days a week to three days a week and getting more hours of sleep on those other two days.
• 16:48
  Philip Pape: Or adding in activities that reduce stress instead of more quote unquote exercise.
• 16:52
  Philip Pape: Even if it is strength training, you might be doing too much and not giving yourself enough time to walk or meditate or breathe or just relax and play a video game.
• 17:00
  Philip Pape: I don't care, just relax.
• 17:02
  Philip Pape: Sometimes the fastest way to lose fat is just to improve the recovery and stress side of the equation, not cut calories further because remember, there's two sides of the equation calories in, calories out, and the calories out gets affected by both calories in and your life stressors.
• 17:19
  Philip Pape: So when you're well rested, your hunger hormones stay more balanced and you can stick to your plan without feeling like you're constantly fighting it.
• 17:27
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• 17:32
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• 17:35
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• 18:02
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• 18:12
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• 18:24
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• 18:25
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• 18:29
  Philip Pape: All right, let's get back to the episode.
• 18:30
  Philip Pape: All right, let's talk about mistake number four, overdoing cardio.
• 18:35
  Philip Pape: So this is a little bit of a segue from mistake number three, sleep and stress, because cardio is another form of stress.
• 18:42
  Philip Pape: Doing more cardio is a common tactic people use to try to burn more fat or accelerate fat loss.
• 18:48
  Philip Pape: And, you know, in a vacuum, more movement, more cardio burns calories.
• 18:53
  Philip Pape: That's true, but it can backfire badly when it comes to hunger, let alone the adaptation from doing too much cardio.
• 19:00
  Philip Pape: But let's talk about hunger.
• 19:01
  Philip Pape: Because here's what often happens you do a long cardio session, like an hour of running or cycling or swimming or whatever.
• 19:08
  Philip Pape: Right after that, right after that, your appetite might be suppressed.
• 19:12
  Philip Pape: Many of you know what I'm talking about, right?
• 19:13
  Philip Pape: Because exercise can blunt hunger temporarily.
• 19:16
  Philip Pape: Strength training often does this for a lot of people as well.
• 19:19
  Philip Pape: But then later in the day, your hunger hormones are going to surge up to compensate for all of that energy you expended earlier through the cardio session.
• 19:29
  Philip Pape: And then you find yourself ravenous.
• 19:31
  Philip Pape: And often it happens at night, and then you eat back all the calories you burned.
• 19:36
  Philip Pape: And I hope you're not doing it on purpose, thinking that you're this is some sort of equation that makes sense.
• 19:41
  Philip Pape: You eat them back, and then some most likely.
• 19:44
  Philip Pape: And that's a huge problem.
• 19:46
  Philip Pape: And we don't see the same result with people doing, you know, low and slow heavy resistance training, but we do see it with the chronic cardio.
• 19:54
  Philip Pape: Overdoing cardio, also, as we mentioned before, the same thing as stress.
• 19:59
  Philip Pape: It elevates your cortisol if you're, especially if you're not recovering properly, right?
• 20:04
  Philip Pape: I'm not gonna say all cardio is bad.
• 20:06
  Philip Pape: Short bouts of intense cardio can be amazing.
• 20:08
  Philip Pape: Sprinting can be amazing.
• 20:10
  Philip Pape: You know, medium intensity cardio, when done with plenty of recovery, can be amazing.
• 20:14
  Philip Pape: But for many of you, you're doing so much of it and you're not recovering properly.
• 20:18
  Philip Pape: And that ties back to mistake number three about the stress.
• 20:22
  Philip Pape: The other issue is that too much cardio without enough resistance training.
• 20:26
  Philip Pape: Well, now you're not prioritizing the right thing for muscle loss, and that has its own negative impacts on your fat loss phase.
• 20:32
  Philip Pape: So don't just think in a fat loss phase, okay, I just need to do a ton more cardio, I need to do a lot of high rep strength training.
• 20:38
  Philip Pape: No.
• 20:39
  Philip Pape: You you still want to lift heavy, you still want to get that muscle stimulus, and you still want to have a reasonable recovery in there with the cardio if you if you need that much cardio at all.
• 20:48
  Philip Pape: So I think the fix here is include cardio in a tiered pyramid, okay, where the the biggest part of the pyramid is walking, and then the next part of the pyramid is a little bit of cardio for enjoyment, if that's what you like, or if you play sports or something like that.
• 21:05
  Philip Pape: And then the tip of the pyramid is for optimization, is sprinting.
• 21:10
  Philip Pape: And we've talked about sprinting in the past.
• 21:11
  Philip Pape: You can look it up in our library.
• 21:13
  Philip Pape: The sprinting protocol, it's not hit, it's a very anabolic way to train for very short bouts of sprinting.
• 21:20
  Philip Pape: And all of that is recoverable, especially if it's balanced with strength training and you have plenty of sleep.
• 21:25
  Philip Pape: If this is eating into your sleep, that's going to be a problem.
• 21:28
  Philip Pape: Now, if you notice your appetite shoots up on certain days, look carefully at how you're moving on those days.
• 21:36
  Philip Pape: Look carefully at your activity.
• 21:37
  Philip Pape: Ironically, being completely sedentary can also make you hungry.
• 21:41
  Philip Pape: That's almost like the other side of the equation.
• 21:43
  Philip Pape: So being generally active, moving, getting off your butt, walking a lot, and strength training is what I prefer for most people, with a little of extra cardio sprinkled in as needed to burn some more calories, that's fine.
• 21:55
  Philip Pape: But too much of it can be a problem, right?
• 21:58
  Philip Pape: And so pay attention to your body's signals and correlate it with your movement.
• 22:02
  Philip Pape: Of course, you're also looking at your protein and fiber, like we talked about before.
• 22:06
  Philip Pape: All right, mistake number five is staying in a chronic extreme deficit.
• 22:12
  Philip Pape: Okay, this is not doing an aggressive deficit for a short period and getting out.
• 22:17
  Philip Pape: I'm talking about people who often are highly motivated and highly disciplined and they have a decent amount of weight they want to lose.
• 22:24
  Philip Pape: And they're like, well, if a moderate deficit is it is good, then an extreme deficit must be better, or an aggressive deficit, even if it's not so aggressive that I'm gonna lose muscle mass.
• 22:34
  Philip Pape: And then I can gut it out.
• 22:35
  Philip Pape: And I know people like this who could just gut it out.
• 22:38
  Philip Pape: The problem is that the more aggressive the diet, the longer the period of the diet, that's gonna provoke the strongest adaptive response.
• 22:46
  Philip Pape: Now that is a trade-off for sure.
• 22:48
  Philip Pape: If you're okay with the response and eating less and less and still doing it and white duckling it and finally coming out the other end with the fat loss you wanted, that's your call.
• 22:56
  Philip Pape: But for many of us, that's that's a miserable experience that is not sustainable.
• 23:00
  Philip Pape: Your metabolism is gonna slow down significantly.
• 23:02
  Philip Pape: Your hunger hormones are gonna go ramped up way more than they would otherwise.
• 23:06
  Philip Pape: And then the problem here is also that a lot of these changes persist after the diet ends.
• 23:12
  Philip Pape: Yes, you can recover.
• 23:13
  Philip Pape: We talk about recovery dieting, bringing those calories back up to maintenance as quickly as you can, and you'll recover.
• 23:18
  Philip Pape: But I do see these effects linger, especially for those of you who've been dieting for years.
• 23:23
  Philip Pape: I have clients who get frustrated because they're like, I expected my metabolism to recover more than this.
• 23:28
  Philip Pape: Why am I only burning, let's say, 1400 calories or 1600 calories?
• 23:32
  Philip Pape: And for many of you, it's because of how long you've dieted in the past, which just means you need to spend more time not dieting for a while.
• 23:41
  Philip Pape: That's the solution there.
• 23:43
  Philip Pape: Rather than worrying about the metabolism, just stop doing the things that suppress your metabolism for a while and give it that time to recover.
• 23:51
  Philip Pape: So we when we look at studies that have followed people on aggressive diets, there's one study that that looked at participants who lost 30 pounds and a full year later, their leptin was still suppressed, their ghrelin was still higher, and their appetite was 20% higher than before they started.
• 24:06
  Philip Pape: Now, the caveat when I see studies like that is if you lost 30 pounds, you're gonna be burning fewer calories.
• 24:13
  Philip Pape: You're a lighter version of yourself.
• 24:15
  Philip Pape: And a lot of times we don't know if these people are resistance training.
• 24:18
  Philip Pape: Many times they're not, and they've actually lost some muscle as well.
• 24:21
  Philip Pape: If you hold on to your muscle and it's purely from fat, you're still gonna have some impact from being lighter on the scale.
• 24:27
  Philip Pape: Like you're gonna burn up fewer calories, but you're probably you're gonna be in a much better position for body recomposition, building muscle and all of that.
• 24:34
  Philip Pape: That's still gonna help a lot with the hunger and the fat loss, right?
• 24:37
  Philip Pape: But the rebound weight gain, I think occurs in this population because aggressive diets, lots of weight loss, you throw off your hormones, the hormones don't recover that fast, and then you start to overeat and you body overshoot.
• 24:50
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 24:50
  Philip Pape: So this is that spiral, that suppression spiral.
• 24:54
  Philip Pape: Constant under-eating causes your body to conserve energy, your fat loss slows down, you feel terrible the whole time you're doing it, you're developing an unhealthy relationship with food because now you start obsessing over food, right?
• 25:06
  Philip Pape: And dreaming of food, and none of that is healthy mentally or physically.
• 25:10
  Philip Pape: So the fix here is a simple one.
• 25:13
  Philip Pape: It's stop living in deep deficits for very long and definitely not forever, right?
• 25:20
  Philip Pape: Don't always be dieting for sure, but even don't do deep deficits if you've had a history of dieting like this, if they go beyond, you know, a few weeks or a few months, right?
• 25:30
  Philip Pape: You can do a rapid fat loss phase here and there.
• 25:32
  Philip Pape: I've I've helped people do it, even people who've had a chronic history of dieting, but it's done in a very controlled way.
• 25:37
  Philip Pape: And again, the duration is proportional to the aggressiveness.
• 25:40
  Philip Pape: The more aggressive, the shorter duration.
• 25:42
  Philip Pape: For most people, it's more effective to diet moderately and then do it in phases.
• 25:47
  Philip Pape: Use a moderate deficit of, you know, half a percent of your body weight a week.
• 25:52
  Philip Pape: And that's not even that moderate.
• 25:53
  Philip Pape: I mean, that's a decent clip still.
• 25:55
  Philip Pape: You're still gonna lose, you're still gonna see the pounds fly off.
• 25:57
  Philip Pape: It's just not gonna be as fast as you want in your head, which is not sustainable.
• 26:01
  Philip Pape: But then you do that, you incorporate diet breaks, you go back to maintenance for a while, and then you spend another, let's say, six, eight, 10 weeks in, you know, fat loss phases.
• 26:12
  Philip Pape: Um, and let me see.
• 26:12
  Philip Pape: This episode comes out in early January, closer to January 20th.
• 26:16
  Philip Pape: I'm gonna be talking about a workshop we're doing in physique university called Get Lean in 45 Days.
• 26:23
  Philip Pape: If you want to get ready for that, you can join, go to wits and weights.com/slash physique.
• 26:27
  Philip Pape: We're gonna talk about the six-week mini cut.
• 26:29
  Philip Pape: It's one of my favorite ways to lose fat that is a trade between both of these when we know that hunger is a big issue for a lot of you.
• 26:37
  Philip Pape: So if you do it this way, moderate fat loss phases for short durations, and most of the time you're not dieting, that's gonna keep your leptin closer to normal, your other hormones closer to normal, give you a psychological breather, make each of the phases more effective and more desirable to do and then get out, right?
• 26:57
  Philip Pape: So a slightly less aggressive deficit.
• 27:00
  Philip Pape: I'm not saying you have to take years, but a slightly less aggressive deficit that you can stick to is always gonna beat a more aggressive deficit that you're gonna abandon or cause these other issues.
• 27:11
  Philip Pape: Now, quick reminder, we're about halfway through the seven mistakes, or I guess we're more than that, right?
• 27:15
  Philip Pape: I just gave you mistake five, so we've got two more.
• 27:17
  Philip Pape: I've been saving something from the end of this episode.
• 27:19
  Philip Pape: So after I cover the last two, I'm gonna share a simple two-week protocol that you can start tomorrow to make hunger management dramatically easier.
• 27:29
  Philip Pape: And that's before you even start cutting calories.
• 27:32
  Philip Pape: So it's kind of like a little bit of a prep for your hunger signals.
• 27:35
  Philip Pape: So don't skip out before we get there.
• 27:36
  Philip Pape: All right, mistake number six is poor meal timing and skipping meals.
• 27:42
  Philip Pape: And for some of you, this is like mistake number one.
• 27:45
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 27:46
  Philip Pape: You might be trying to get enough protein, fiber, and do all the other things.
• 27:49
  Philip Pape: But when you eat can influence your appetite significantly.
• 27:53
  Philip Pape: And don't listen to anyone that tells you it's this way or that way.
• 27:57
  Philip Pape: It's going to be very dependent on you.
• 27:59
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 27:59
  Philip Pape: I hope this is why you listen to wits and weights.
• 28:01
  Philip Pape: Because of that nuance, I want you to understand everyone is different.
• 28:04
  Philip Pape: We're not unique, special snowflakes, but there is a difference.
• 28:08
  Philip Pape: There are different categories of people and how they respond to meal timing.
• 28:13
  Philip Pape: The most common mistake I see is skipping breakfast and sometimes lunch to save calories.
• 28:19
  Philip Pape: And then you're absolutely ravenous by evening.
• 28:21
  Philip Pape: Now, some of you are saying, oh, that's intermittent fasting.
• 28:23
  Philip Pape: I do it on purpose and it works great.
• 28:25
  Philip Pape: You know what?
• 28:25
  Philip Pape: If it works great for you, then that's your answer.
• 28:28
  Philip Pape: It works great for you.
• 28:28
  Philip Pape: For many people, they do it thinking there's some other benefit.
• 28:31
  Philip Pape: There's not.
• 28:31
  Philip Pape: There's not, guys.
• 28:32
  Philip Pape: Intermittent fasting is only beneficial in that it helps with someone's schedule and adherence.
• 28:39
  Philip Pape: That is it.
• 28:40
  Philip Pape: That is it.
• 28:40
  Philip Pape: There's no other benefits metabolically, longevity, you know, cell turnover, none of that stuff.
• 28:46
  Philip Pape: Don't believe it.
• 28:47
  Philip Pape: None of that is supported.
• 28:49
  Philip Pape: The main thing is a tool for adherence.
• 28:52
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 28:52
  Philip Pape: When we think about your day and the fact that we are 24-hour creatures with circadian rhythms, your willpower tends to be the lowest at night.
• 29:00
  Philip Pape: Tell me that's not true for most of you, right?
• 29:02
  Philip Pape: You have more energy in the morning and more willpower and more go get them in the morning, and it tends to decline at night.
• 29:08
  Philip Pape: And there is a correlation with that and the fact that you've been doing things all day, you're tired, your cortisol has declined as it should by the end of the day.
• 29:16
  Philip Pape: You should be winding down, but then you're hungry and you make food decisions while you're hungry, and that's when you overeat.
• 29:24
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 29:24
  Philip Pape: And that's again when you are saving up calories, thinking you're going to eat less, and you end up eating more.
• 29:32
  Philip Pape: That's the counterintuitive thing I'm talking about here.
• 29:35
  Philip Pape: A 2022 randomized trial found something interesting that identical meals cause more hunger when eaten late in the day versus earlier, where eating the same calories four hours later than normal decreased leptin levels and slowed the metabolic rate.
• 29:52
  Philip Pape: So it's interesting.
• 29:54
  Philip Pape: For a lot of you, your body's gonna handle food better earlier in the day when you're more active than late at night.
• 29:59
  Philip Pape: Now, again, I'm not saying that this is the be-all end-all.
• 30:03
  Philip Pape: I already said that.
• 30:04
  Philip Pape: You may be different.
• 30:05
  Philip Pape: You may have a different work schedule that it throws it off.
• 30:08
  Philip Pape: You may have different lighting, be it in a different hemisphere or latitude that affects some of this.
• 30:12
  Philip Pape: I don't know.
• 30:13
  Philip Pape: If you train in the afternoon or at night, it may also affect these things versus training in the morning.
• 30:19
  Philip Pape: So the fix here isn't, oh, eat more during the day necessarily.
• 30:22
  Philip Pape: It's to distribute your calories in a way that prevents extreme hunger swings.
• 30:28
  Philip Pape: That's the principle.
• 30:29
  Philip Pape: And so for most people, most people, that does mean probably three meals and like one or two snacks spaced throughout the day.
• 30:38
  Philip Pape: Just spaced throughout the day, a little bit after you get up, all the way to a couple hours before you go to bed.
• 30:43
  Philip Pape: And many people do find that front loading calories, eating more earlier in the day, which should be including protein and fiber anyway, and then less at dinner does lead to better satiety and fewer eating cravings.
• 30:56
  Philip Pape: It's a very, very common pattern.
• 30:58
  Philip Pape: So if you're not sure, guess what?
• 31:00
  Philip Pape: Guess what I'm gonna say?
• 31:01
  Philip Pape: I want you to try it out.
• 31:03
  Philip Pape: I want you to experiment before and after.
• 31:05
  Philip Pape: Do it one way for two weeks, or maybe the way you're already doing it, you you already know your body, right?
• 31:09
  Philip Pape: And your hunger signals.
• 31:11
  Philip Pape: Then keeping the same calories and food, shift it.
• 31:14
  Philip Pape: Either get more frequent small meals, eat earlier in the day, whatever.
• 31:19
  Philip Pape: Shift it and see how that affects your hunger patterns.
• 31:22
  Philip Pape: Because if you're telling me that, oh, I like to intermittent fast, but I'm always hungry at three or whatever the situation is, maybe it's not intermittent fasting, but you know, I skip breakfast and then I can't get all my protein, but then I'm really hungry at you know, 5 p.m.
• 31:35
  Philip Pape: That's a good indication that it could be a timing issue, assuming you're not under-eating, right?
• 31:40
  Philip Pape: Undereating, of course, is gonna make you hungry too.
• 31:43
  Philip Pape: All right, the last mistake I have here is on mindset.
• 31:47
  Philip Pape: Okay, this is a psychological mistake.
• 31:50
  Philip Pape: So maybe this is the most important one for some of you, and that is the all-or-nothing mindset, which usually means rules that are over-restrictive or or that are restrictive, right?
• 32:01
  Philip Pape: Cutting out entire food groups, swearing off treats, thinking you have to be perfect on your diet every single day, viewing foods as good and bad, feeling guilty when you eat something off plant, all the things that are my boogeyman that I think are sabotaging a lot of you.
• 32:15
  Philip Pape: And if you can't eat and not feel guilty, if you can't eat a little bit more or less calories than your goal and feel fine with it, if you can't eat carbs and know that you're actually gonna be fine, and they're probably better for you than not eating carbs for most of you trying to build muscle, then there's a problem there.
• 32:32
  Philip Pape: And that could be your issue.
• 32:34
  Philip Pape: So the reason this is, think about it, it's the forbidden fruit syndrome.
• 32:39
  Philip Pape: Forbidden fruit, forbidden food becomes everything you think about, right?
• 32:43
  Philip Pape: You're then you're then you have cravings for the thing you've told yourself you can't have.
• 32:48
  Philip Pape: I can't have ice cream ever.
• 32:50
  Philip Pape: So all I think about is ice cream.
• 32:52
  Philip Pape: I can't ever have pizza, so I'm just dying to have that next slice of pizza.
• 32:55
  Philip Pape: Maybe on my quote unquote cheat day, which you know, anybody who listens to this show know I can't stand that term.
• 32:59
  Philip Pape: Uh, we don't do cheat days, okay?
• 33:01
  Philip Pape: We plan, we plan ahead and we eat calories as we need them and we distribute them appropriately, okay?
• 33:06
  Philip Pape: But life is gonna happen, guys.
• 33:08
  Philip Pape: It happens every day.
• 33:10
  Philip Pape: You're gonna eat something off plan, you're gonna be in a situation that you couldn't plan for potentially.
• 33:15
  Philip Pape: And because your mindset is all or nothing, you feel like you failed with every single one of these little decisions.
• 33:20
  Philip Pape: And that triggers the okay, might as well eff it effect.
• 33:24
  Philip Pape: I already blew it, so I might as well keep eating and start over tomorrow.
• 33:27
  Philip Pape: You know, I missed my training session, so I might as well just not train this week and start Monday.
• 33:31
  Philip Pape: And we we have so much research that confirms this that I feel like I'm a broken record when I go on podcasts and I'm like, look, rigid versus flexible dieting, clear winner between those two.
• 33:42
  Philip Pape: Rigid dieting is associated with more binge eating and less success in long-term weight management, period.
• 33:48
  Philip Pape: Right?
• 33:49
  Philip Pape: Because of the psychology, it leads to short-term weight loss for most people, right?
• 33:54
  Philip Pape: Just like any calorie deficit will, but then the gains disappear.
• 33:58
  Philip Pape: This is why 95% of people can't maintain the results.
• 34:01
  Philip Pape: Whereas flexible dieting or flexible restraint is an is a term from the literature, which is where you have flexible flexibility and structure to maintain some level of restraint, but it's allowing in there plenty of indulgences or treats or things you like without being guilty about them and still hitting your goals and still sustaining your results.
• 34:23
  Philip Pape: And it is one of the strongest predictors of sustained weight loss and fat loss.
• 34:28
  Philip Pape: So the fix to this mistake is to work on that mindset.
• 34:32
  Philip Pape: Easier said than done.
• 34:34
  Philip Pape: I get it.
• 34:34
  Philip Pape: It takes work.
• 34:35
  Philip Pape: No food is truly off limits if you plan for it and account for it.
• 34:40
  Philip Pape: And that's really what it comes down to is planning in the piece of chocolate, the weekly dinner out, the party with your friends, the birthday party coming up, the vacation, the business travel.
• 34:50
  Philip Pape: Planning ahead.
• 34:51
  Philip Pape: Okay.
• 34:52
  Philip Pape: I have a client that I'm working with who her son, you know, loves treats.
• 34:57
  Philip Pape: And when they go to a family event, he's going to have them.
• 35:00
  Philip Pape: And she's like, what do I do?
• 35:02
  Philip Pape: How do I get them not to eat them?
• 35:03
  Philip Pape: Or, you know, whatever the question was.
• 35:05
  Philip Pape: And I'm like, you plan them in and assume you're going to have this slice of cake and these chicken wings and this slice of pizza because that's probably what's going to happen.
• 35:13
  Philip Pape: Right.
• 35:14
  Philip Pape: Kind of plan for the worst case.
• 35:15
  Philip Pape: And I don't even like to use the term worst.
• 35:16
  Philip Pape: It's just, this is likely what's going to happen, assuming no control whatsoever.
• 35:21
  Philip Pape: So if you plan them in, you know what you've done?
• 35:23
  Philip Pape: You've just put a sense of control on there that makes it super flexible.
• 35:27
  Philip Pape: And then you can plan the rest of the day and week around that.
• 35:29
  Philip Pape: Right.
• 35:30
  Philip Pape: And again, easier said than done.
• 35:32
  Philip Pape: But when you think ahead, when you pre-log, when you use an app, when you use a piece of paper and think ahead and write it down and plan it in, then you're going to not have decision fatigue, emotionally driven decisions, and you're going to respond with curiosity when things don't go your way.
• 35:50
  Philip Pape: And you're not going to be guilty about it.
• 35:52
  Philip Pape: You're going to say, what did end up triggering this?
• 35:54
  Philip Pape: And how can I adjust it next time?
• 35:56
  Philip Pape: And then I'm going to move on.
• 35:57
  Philip Pape: So that's the flexible approach that I really like that keeps your stress down.
• 36:01
  Philip Pape: So this affects number mistake number three with your stress.
• 36:04
  Philip Pape: It reduces your cravings over time.
• 36:06
  Philip Pape: It dramatically improves your adherence.
• 36:09
  Philip Pape: Whereas the opposite approach is just an ineffective, miserable way to live.
• 36:13
  Philip Pape: Okay, so we've covered all seven mistakes, but I did promise you one more thing, and that is a counterintuitive two-week protocol that makes hunger management easier before you even start your calorie deficit.
• 36:27
  Philip Pape: And honestly, if you're in a calorie deficit right now, you could even do it.
• 36:29
  Philip Pape: Hey, this is Philip.
• 36:30
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• 36:33
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• 36:39
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• 36:52
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• 36:57
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• 36:59
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• 37:02
  Philip Pape: All right, here is the tactic I say for last, and you can start this today or tomorrow.
• 37:07
  Philip Pape: Most people begin in a fat loss phase by cutting things out.
• 37:11
  Philip Pape: And if you are currently in a fat loss phase, you probably have done this.
• 37:14
  Philip Pape: You say, okay, I need less food, I need fewer carbs that because your protein stays high and the fats don't come down that much, so the carbs come way down.
• 37:21
  Philip Pape: I'm not gonna have desserts, I'm gonna have smaller portions, right?
• 37:25
  Philip Pape: And that psychology is already triggering your body's scarcity response, the hormones that we talked about, where your cravings go up and you start fighting them, even before there's any adaptation going on.
• 37:38
  Philip Pape: So instead, I want you to do the opposite.
• 37:40
  Philip Pape: What do I mean?
• 37:41
  Philip Pape: I want you to start by adding things in.
• 37:44
  Philip Pape: Before you subtract a single calorie, I want you to add three things.
• 37:49
  Philip Pape: Okay, and if you haven't started your fat loss phase, take two weeks to do this.
• 37:53
  Philip Pape: If you have started it, you can you can try that even during the fat loss phase.
• 37:57
  Philip Pape: But spend two weeks, make this a plan that you follow.
• 38:00
  Philip Pape: Protein at every meal, a massive vegetable portion at lunch and dinner, and a 10-minute walk after your meals, after your main meals, probably lunch and dinner.
• 38:11
  Philip Pape: All right, that's it.
• 38:12
  Philip Pape: I don't want you to think about anything else.
• 38:14
  Philip Pape: And I don't want you to cut anything out.
• 38:16
  Philip Pape: So if you're not in a fat loss phase, this is really powerful because the extra protein is gonna trigger your satiety, the vegetables are gonna fill your stomach with volume and fiber, the walks are gonna improve your insulin sensitivity, your digestion.
• 38:29
  Philip Pape: And then without even trying, you're gonna naturally eat less of the other stuff.
• 38:34
  Philip Pape: The snacks, the second helpings, the mindless eating, because you're satisfied.
• 38:38
  Philip Pape: So I think it's really helpful before you start your deficit.
• 38:41
  Philip Pape: If you're in one, you can come out of it for a while and be at maintenance and try this, or try to do it while you're in it.
• 38:47
  Philip Pape: It's only gonna help, regardless, right?
• 38:49
  Philip Pape: But this is what we talk about when we say habits that are sustainable and training your appetite and hunger signals.
• 38:55
  Philip Pape: So at least give yourself more of an advantage psychologically and hormonally before that adaptation kicks in, and then see what happens to hunger levels.
• 39:03
  Philip Pape: I think you're gonna be surprised.
• 39:05
  Philip Pape: And again, I I've I've pitched my app before, Fitness Lab.
• 39:08
  Philip Pape: I know we're past the holiday promotion, but one of the great things that that app can do is help analyze what you're eating and give you meal plans and give you advice to make these changes.
• 39:19
  Philip Pape: So, again, the three things protein at every meal, a massive vegetable portion at lunch and dinner, and a 10-minute walk after lunch and dinner.
• 39:27
  Philip Pape: All right, that's it for today's episode.
• 39:28
  Philip Pape: I know we covered a lot, the physiology of why diets make you hungry, the seven mistakes that make it worse, and then some solutions along with along for the ride to help you out.
• 39:38
  Philip Pape: I want you to remember that body recomp and fat loss, they're not achieved by starving yourself.
• 39:45
  Philip Pape: They're achieved by setting up a structured, sustainable approach that works with your body and your biofeedback.
• 39:52
  Philip Pape: And so everything we talk about here is intended to do that.
• 39:55
  Philip Pape: If you can do them, fat loss, it's not just a thing that will happen, but a thing that can be done.
• 39:59
  Philip Pape: Over time, repeatedly as needed in a much more sustainable way.
• 40:05
  Philip Pape: So, this is episode one of the appetite series.
• 40:07
  Philip Pape: On the next episode, we're gonna go a little bit more into ways to control appetite, including some that you may not even be aware of and may want to try.
• 40:16
  Philip Pape: Until next time, keep using your wits, lifting those weights, and remember that your body is capable of incredible things when you give it what it needs.
• 40:23
  Philip Pape: My name is Philip Hape, and I will talk to you next time here on the Wits and Weights Podcast.