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Popping Off: VPR Reunion Pt. 1 & The Valley Ep 9 · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,
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Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of Vanner
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Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping
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Speaker 1: Off with Teddy Mellencamp and.
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Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Thanks for joining us. So we're going
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Speaker 2: to go right into the headlines.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have time for small chat here now.
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Speaker 1: It's too much going on.
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Speaker 3: I don't need to talk to you. I don't need
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Speaker 3: to actually.
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Speaker 1: Talk to you about anything regarding life. I just need
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Speaker 1: for our guilty pleasure. We just need to get to business, guys.
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Speaker 3: All right, so let's go go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So, first and foremost exciting news, The Valley renewed
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Speaker 1: for season two, with the full cast returning. This Variety
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Speaker 1: article said it has been renewed for a second season,
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Speaker 1: and yes, the full cast is expected to be back,
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Speaker 1: even those who seem to be heading toward divorce. In
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Speaker 1: the announcement part of the broader set of renewals made
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Speaker 1: by a parent company and be Soon U Reversal, the
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Speaker 1: company called the show it's most watched freshman series in
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Speaker 1: nearly a decade. But doesn't this mean there has to
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Speaker 1: be a reunion? Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me.
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Speaker 1: You can't brag about what a great show it.
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Speaker 2: Is and how amazing it is and how the ratings
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Speaker 2: are great and then be like, oh, and by the way,
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Speaker 2: there's no reunion.
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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Kristen did say in this New York Post
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Speaker 1: article nobody knows of Season one of The Valley is
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Speaker 1: getting a reunion, including herself, After claiming on her podcast
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Speaker 1: that the cast of vander Pump Rules spin off series
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Speaker 1: won't be filming a reunion special, she goes, I did
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Speaker 1: say it on my podcast, but it's what I've read online.
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Speaker 1: The Reality Start explained while promoting the new Amazon competition
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Speaker 1: reality show The Goat. This this really tracks for Kristen
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Speaker 1: because she seems to always say things but.
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Speaker 3: Nine get it right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she does like to just talk blah blah blah oah,
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Speaker 2: and then she has to reel back in and be like, well,
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Speaker 2: that's not exactly what I meant to say, So it is.
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Speaker 2: It does track for It's very on brand for Kristen.
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Speaker 2: There's no reunion, and then to backtrack and say well,
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Speaker 2: maybe there is. Honestly, it doesn't make sense that there
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be one, especially with this show, because there's so
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Speaker 2: many things that have happened since the show filmed and aired.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's the whole Brittany Jack situation. There's Michelle
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Speaker 2: and Jesse. So I mean, if any show needs a reunion,
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Speaker 2: it's this one.
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Speaker 3: It's this one, and we're fun. Listen.
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Speaker 1: I'm fine for them to condense it into one episode.
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Speaker 3: I don't need three. I'm fine with just one. Cram
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Speaker 3: it in, get all the.
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Speaker 1: Shit, and let's go. But I also need to know
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Speaker 1: who the celebrity is that Michelle was talking to me.
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Speaker 3: You do I know?
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Speaker 2: Every time that comes up, I picture you just dying
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Speaker 2: that you don't know who it is.
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Speaker 1: It's it really is unnerving. This next one is kind
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Speaker 1: of a story foe story. Uh. Taste of Reality posted something,
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Speaker 1: and then somebody else posted that all of the cast
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Speaker 1: no longer has pump Rules in their bio. I confirmed
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Speaker 1: Laala never had it in her bio. However, Tom Sandval
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Speaker 1: and Tom Schwartz removed it and then it's back at
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Speaker 1: the bottom.
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Speaker 2: Did they remove it at the same time and then
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Speaker 2: put it back at the same time, like was it
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Speaker 2: a coordinated effort?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why they were boughting a house, getting alone together.
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Speaker 1: They were like, let's also take this so I know why.
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Speaker 1: I don't now that I've heard more about it, I
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Speaker 1: don't think vander pump rules is done.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either. And I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like when people remove that stuff from
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Speaker 2: their bio, they do it just as a way to
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Speaker 2: get pressed. I don't you think that people just put
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Speaker 2: it in, take it out, put it and take it out, right?
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Speaker 1: And then also if people are going to do the
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Speaker 1: research on it and going to say and everybody's removed it,
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Speaker 1: you need to know for sure that everybody had it
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Speaker 1: in the first place, right.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was thinking, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: Sandoval had never removed it. Of course he didn't.
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Speaker 3: He's too busy making out with his girlfriend. He doesn't
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Speaker 3: know what's going on.
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Speaker 2: When all this removing from the you know, from the bio,
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Speaker 2: I thought, well, what if I just remove rhoc from
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Speaker 2: my bio to see what happens.
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Speaker 3: What if you just you should remove it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you remove it, people are going to
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Speaker 1: say she got fired, and then you're gonna get all
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Speaker 1: that like, good, it's about time, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I hated her anyway.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then people are going to be like, what reason. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: like it's just all of it. It's a lot for
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Speaker 1: one little hashtag that you have.
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Speaker 3: In the right.
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Speaker 1: But what will you do when you get the boot?
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Speaker 1: Because your Instagram name says I know OC. I mean
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Speaker 1: no problem, I.
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Speaker 2: Know it is a problem. I thought every year I've
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Speaker 2: thought about that. I'm like, oh, if I get the boot,
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Speaker 2: I gotta change that Instagram. I'll just change it to
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Speaker 2: rho ce No more.
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Speaker 3: Emily Simpson. I mean you really.
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Speaker 1: Committed there with the full Instagram now, I did, because
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Speaker 1: you know what, Emily Simpson is so common.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't There was no like, I could not find
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Speaker 2: any option. There was no like Emily Simpson one, two, three, ABC.
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Speaker 3: They were all gone.
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Speaker 1: So you're like, I'm gonna just stake this claim that
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Speaker 1: hopefully there's never another Emily Simpson on Real Housewives exactly. Well,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate your commitment there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 2: Vpr's Tom Sandival shuts down split rumors by posting and
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Speaker 2: not safe for work photo with girlfriend Victoria Lee Robinson.
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Speaker 2: It was an US article. Tom Sandoval didn't just tell
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Speaker 2: vander Pumperroles fans that he's still dating Victoria Lee Robinson.
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Speaker 2: He showed them as well. Sandoval took to Instagram stories
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Speaker 2: on Saturday, May eleventh to share a photo of the
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Speaker 2: couple in a photo booth. The first snap showed Sandval
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Speaker 2: and Robinson posing for the camera, while the second featured
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Speaker 2: Sandoval pretending to bite Robinson's breast. Very classy.
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Speaker 1: I could have done without it, to be like I,
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Speaker 1: you know what, to get press. I would have been fine.
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Speaker 1: Which is the allure that maybe they broke up or
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Speaker 1: they didn't. I don't need to see proof of you
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Speaker 1: biting said significant others breast to prove it. But that's
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Speaker 1: just me. Oh, this is kind of exciting. The drunk
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Speaker 1: guy from the vander Pump Rule season eleven was not well,
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Speaker 1: this is what the kids say, was not a randown.
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Speaker 3: I keep reading this. There's a lot of a lot
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Speaker 3: of theories out there.
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Speaker 1: This nameless man and I said this. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I said this to you on the pod or
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Speaker 1: I said it to you on text. I recognize that guy,
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Speaker 1: like I have either met him before or been in
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Speaker 1: the same place, Like I never I always forget a name.
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Speaker 1: I never forget a face, and I've seen that face.
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Speaker 1: But this nameless man was taking pictures of all Tom's friends,
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Speaker 1: Kyle chan I mean, we've just seen him throughout. But
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Speaker 1: what fans are speculating is that the production team or
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Speaker 1: Sam of All himself planned the entire act so Sandoval
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Speaker 1: could look like the hero.
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. What do you think? I
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Speaker 3: feel like that's a reach.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that he necessarily. I think
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Speaker 1: if they are his, if he is his friend, he
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Speaker 1: could be like, yeah, come in and make a bed,
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Speaker 1: like let's have fun, let's do the reunion, and the
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Speaker 1: guy like took it at it seriously. Yes, But what
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Speaker 1: I find odd is like there was a moment where
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Speaker 1: La La and I think Katie and a couple of
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Speaker 1: the others that were sitting at that couch were like,
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Speaker 1: who's this guy? How did they not recognize the guy?
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Speaker 1: But I did so.
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Speaker 3: Well, you never know with you, I don't know you get.
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Speaker 1: Around at the pool party.
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Speaker 3: Maybe you know what I saw.
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Speaker 2: I did see a meme or something on Instagram where
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Speaker 2: show someone showed a side by side of a photo
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Speaker 2: with Joe with his jacket on, Oh.
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Speaker 1: I was that his jacket or Brox jacket?
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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, it was his jacket. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 2: a gold jacket, and I believe it was his jacket.
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Speaker 2: So I do think that you are onto something that
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Speaker 2: he is. He's known by these people, so I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to just say this, even if it's a
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Speaker 1: good as Gold theme party, if you feel the need
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Speaker 1: to wear a gold suit jacket, and I mean this
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Speaker 1: even goes to like Jesse from the Valley or Brock
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Speaker 1: or the random guy who caused a scene at vander
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Speaker 1: Pump Rules, I don't. I don't really like a guy
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Speaker 1: in a gold suit jacket. No, why are you? Would
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Speaker 1: you be into Shane in a gold suit jacket.
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Speaker 2: I can't picture Shane and anything but a Van sweatshirt,
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Speaker 2: So like, going from a Van sweatshirt to a gold
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Speaker 2: jacket is just way too much of a leaf for me.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think man Shannon both wore this Alice
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Speaker 1: and Olivia gold suit once and like I remember that. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I still look at my closet and I'm like, it's
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Speaker 1: time for this to go to the real real, Like
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Speaker 1: it's really time. Would anyone even buy it? Let's get
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Speaker 1: into the recap. I watched the uncut I hate the
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Speaker 1: word uncut it sounds but I watched the uncut version,
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Speaker 1: and I guess the cut version, and I didn't spot
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Speaker 1: the difference. So either I'm slipping or like there wasn't
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Speaker 1: a huge difference, or.
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Speaker 2: It's okay, all right because I don't then I don't
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Speaker 2: feel badly because I did not watch the uncut version.
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Speaker 1: So but now, do you watch the circumcised version I watched.
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Speaker 3: I watched the circumcised version.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So it starts out Katie and Ariana confidently
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Speaker 1: say that their standard shop will be open when this
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Speaker 1: reunion airs, but there's something about being one week off.
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Speaker 1: That's a problem because I mean his air and the
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Speaker 1: sandwich shop doesn't open until next week. But it's so close, ladies.
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Speaker 2: There is a sign out front. I had someone that
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Speaker 2: follows me on Instagram did a drive by yesterday and
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Speaker 2: they sent me a photo.
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Speaker 1: So there is a sign.
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Speaker 2: There is a sign, but they also sent me they
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Speaker 2: sent me a photo of the sign. But it also
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Speaker 2: looks like it still doesn't look ready to open. It
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Speaker 2: looks like there's a lot of just kind of debris about.
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Speaker 2: But you know, that's something that maybe could be just quick,
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Speaker 2: you know, cleaned up quickly.
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Speaker 1: So okay, I love debris about.
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Speaker 3: There's a debris about. There's like some debris laying around.
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Speaker 3: But there's debris.
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Speaker 1: About, debris about in my life from day to day.
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna have to do a taste test. It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be hard without Penny, but I guess we're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to do one regardless. Then we get to when
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Speaker 1: Jack still lived with Brittany after cheating on her, Sandoval
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Speaker 1: told him he needed to move out, and he Sandoval
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Speaker 1: claims he'd feel different if it was a five bedroom house.
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Speaker 2: I don't understeel about that. I don't even understand that.
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Speaker 2: What does he mean what he's saying it's a more
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Speaker 2: expensive home.
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Speaker 1: No, I think he's saying when he originally said that
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Speaker 1: to Jack's he lived in an apartment. So saying you need
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Speaker 1: to leave is very different than owning a home with
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Speaker 1: somebody and having your finances in our.
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Speaker 3: Minds and you know, but no, I do get it.
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Speaker 3: I do think there's some weight to that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you do commingle your expenses and you
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Speaker 2: do buy a home together, you don't want to be
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Speaker 2: the one that moves out because you don't want to
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Speaker 2: be the one that abandoned the home. So I'm sure
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Speaker 2: both attorneys on both sides are telling both of them
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Speaker 2: not to leave. Yeah, that would be my guess. He
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Speaker 2: did say it in this reunion. He goes, I'm not
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Speaker 2: the smartest.
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Speaker 1: And I wonder when he says those things, and I
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Speaker 1: get it, I can be self deprecating as well, but
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if he's doing it because he really doesn't
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Speaker 1: think he's the smartest, or he wants like pity.
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Speaker 3: Probably a little of both.
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Speaker 2: I think maybe in that moment he was actually self aware,
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Speaker 2: like for once.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he thinks he's pretty brilliant and he thinks
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Speaker 1: his room is clean, so how could he not know?
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Speaker 1: But either way, Sheena knew exactly what to say to
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Speaker 1: get that part of her covering the lego art. Oh
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Speaker 1: yeah in there, She's like, yes, flashback is the moment
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Speaker 1: of me where Ariane enjoyed me. But it was a
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Speaker 1: good point. Then can we get into a little bit
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Speaker 1: of Lisa vander Pump, which I wish we could recap
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Speaker 1: Lisa vander Pump on Watch What Happened Live Last Night because.
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Speaker 3: That I did not watch it, but I heard that
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Speaker 3: she was.
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Speaker 1: A lot she I don't know if she was more
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Speaker 1: comfy because there was another British humor like with her
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Speaker 1: and they were like a little sauce, but like she
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Speaker 1: was back to her shady self, like she shaded everyone.
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Speaker 1: There was no one left shade by the end. Like
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Speaker 1: even Andy was like, Okay, let me talk to him.
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Speaker 1: I'm actually asking him questions right now. But I'll get
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Speaker 1: into that on to Teason a pod with Tamer on Monday,
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Speaker 1: because we are really talking about vander pump roles. We're
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Speaker 1: not talking about the housewife shade right now. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: Lisa calls Rachel's actions unpredictable. She said she didn't know
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Speaker 1: if she would return for season eleven or not. She
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Speaker 1: says about Rachel's podcast, all this nonsense on a podcast
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Speaker 1: denegrating everyone, It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: But then Tom, this is something that drives me a
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Speaker 1: little nuts. And I know that you say you don't
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Speaker 1: watch your show, but vander Pump always says, I don't
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Speaker 1: watch it. I'm a but like it's like she's above things,
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Speaker 1: but she knows every single detail.
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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the podcast?
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Speaker 2: Sow.
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Speaker 3: She said she doesn't listen to it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she said she didn't listen to it. She said
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Speaker 1: she didn't watch you know, Beverly Hill, like she always says.
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Speaker 1: I like, I'm too busy to watch these things.
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Speaker 3: But the people have told me that the peasants.
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Speaker 1: The peasants on my Twitter account really apprised of the situation.
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Speaker 1: Then La La applaud Sandoval and Rachel for showing up
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Speaker 1: to last year's reunion.
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Speaker 2: Now, see, I I don't know. I actually agreed with
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Speaker 2: La La. I agree with Lala a lot.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I just I felt like when she said that it
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Speaker 2: was it was pretty remarkable for them to show up
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Speaker 2: at all.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine being them and showing up
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Speaker 3: to that. Could you?
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Speaker 2: Could you show your face after all of that, after
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Speaker 2: it became a global phenomena and everybody was talking about it,
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Speaker 2: could you show up?
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Speaker 1: Well, I most definitely wouldn't do something like that.
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Speaker 2: If I show up, you have to skip over that
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Speaker 2: part and just pretend that you did.
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Speaker 1: But if I couldn't, if I could get myself to
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Speaker 1: do those things, and and really, I mean there's no
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Speaker 1: way they believed this would never come to light. There's
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Speaker 1: absolutely no way in any stretch of the imagination. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they thought it wasn't going to come to light as
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Speaker 1: quickly as it did, but I think at that point
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Speaker 1: they felt very justified in their actions. And yes, maybe
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Speaker 1: she had regrets since because it just kept getting worse
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Speaker 1: and worse and worse, But in that moment, I think
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Speaker 1: she felt justified and validated in the decisions that they
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Speaker 1: made together.
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Speaker 2: So you're saying when they showed up to the reunion,
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Speaker 2: they showed up with the mindset that they were not
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Speaker 2: necessarily in the right, but that what they had did
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Speaker 2: they could explain, like they could explain it away, like
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Speaker 2: there was some reasonableness to it that people would grasp onto,
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Speaker 2: because they definitely.
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Speaker 1: Weren't apologetic last year. I mean, they it really didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: But then Sandoval comes forward, so everyone's you know, Lalla
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Speaker 1: says the bad bitch thing, and then Sandoval says he
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Speaker 1: thinks Rachel is a coward for saying she was moving
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Speaker 1: on but continuing to talk about them. They're both responsible
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Speaker 1: for their actions, and Sandoval things, it's ridiculous to say
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Speaker 1: he groomed her. Then they get into a big conversation
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Speaker 1: about grooming, while it corrects him on what grooming means
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Speaker 1: and says Sandoval was very impressionable, and then Sandoval yell's, uh, well,
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Speaker 1: I was very impressional when she took her clothes off
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Speaker 1: and jumped in my fucking pool. Okay, what are your thoughts,
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Speaker 1: I mean on the grooming situation before you get into it,
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Speaker 1: The actual definition of grooming is the action of attempting
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Speaker 1: to form a relationship with a child or a young
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Speaker 1: person with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing
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Speaker 1: them to commit an illegal act, such as selling drugs
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Speaker 1: or joining a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, then based upon that definition, clearly, I mean
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Speaker 2: it wasn't grooming. I do understand that there's really points
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Speaker 2: on both sides. I understand that she's younger than Sandoval,
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Speaker 2: and he's the more famous one, the more well known one,
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Speaker 2: so maybe he had more control or maybe he was
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Speaker 2: able to manipulate her. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: she's an adult. We're not talking about a child. We're
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Speaker 2: not talking about a teenager. We're talking about someone that
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Speaker 2: how old is she?
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Speaker 1: I mean, she's in her I don't know, mid to
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Speaker 1: late twenties. But I think the part that's also confusing
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Speaker 1: to me is they are just getting more people to
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Speaker 1: listen to her podcast. I'm like, listen, popping Off has
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Speaker 1: a lot to say too, So you guys want to
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Speaker 1: comment on us. Yeah, but she's twenty nine now.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well so then she was twenty eight twenty seven
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Speaker 2: at the time.
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Speaker 1: And I just watched the Kevin Spacey Show on Max
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Speaker 1: and I think there's a you know, part of what
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Speaker 1: he was doing, allegedly according to that show, was he
17:51
Speaker 1: was telling people he was going to blow up their career,
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Speaker 1: that these are aspiring at actors that wanted, you know whatever,
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Speaker 1: and he would allegedly touched them in a sexual manner
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Speaker 1: that they weren't comfortable doing. So I understand the word
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Speaker 1: grooming in that context no matter the age, because you're
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Speaker 1: promising something that.
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Speaker 2: You're promising, you're promising some benefit at the end that
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Speaker 2: someone's going to achieve by doing what this person wants sexually.
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Speaker 2: So you're saying in some way that he did kind
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Speaker 2: of groom her in a sense in a sense.
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Speaker 1: But what was this is my question, What's he promising
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Speaker 1: her more airtime? Like?
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Speaker 3: That's That's what I don't get.
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Speaker 1: She's already on the show.
18:37
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe more popularity longitivity, I don't know.
18:41
Speaker 1: So that's where I actually thought it wasn't necessarily grooming
18:46
Speaker 1: because he I don't know what he could promise her.
18:50
Speaker 1: She doesn't produce the show. Like Kevin Space, for example,
18:54
Speaker 1: was one of the producers of House of Cards. He
18:59
Speaker 1: won Multi Bull Academy Awards, like he was in a
19:03
Speaker 1: real like what position of strength is Tom Sandoval in?
19:06
Speaker 1: That puts him in any position of strength more than
19:08
Speaker 1: anybody else, I mean, other than to Lisa vander Pump
19:11
Speaker 1: because she clearly chooses you know, Tom and Tom over anybody.
19:15
Speaker 2: Else, Right, And I get that, But don't you feel
19:17
Speaker 2: like on every cast if you have you have your
19:19
Speaker 2: housewives that have been on for a long time, and
19:21
Speaker 2: then you have your newbies that come on. And I
19:22
Speaker 2: would say your new housewives sometimes bow down or or
19:26
Speaker 2: or manipulated by your your veteran housewives. Yeah, And I
19:31
Speaker 2: mean they're not producers, They're not able to promise anything.
19:33
Speaker 2: But when when someone's the weaker link on a show,
19:37
Speaker 2: I think they can be easily manipulated.
19:40
Speaker 1: Correct, I I believe that is what like do I
19:43
Speaker 1: think there were times my first season where I felt
19:46
Speaker 1: like I was naive with some of my actions. Yes,
19:52
Speaker 1: But would I say that I was groomed? That's that's
19:56
Speaker 1: a word it is. It's a buzzword, and I don't
19:59
Speaker 1: do great with buzzwords. Like the word trigger triggers me.
20:03
Speaker 3: I don't like the word trigger either.
20:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really I don't like it.
20:07
Speaker 3: I try to avoid it. What do you use in
20:09
Speaker 3: place of trigger?
20:11
Speaker 1: Bugs?
20:12
Speaker 3: Bugs? I just say effects that affects me.
20:15
Speaker 1: Oh that makes me feel like right. But then everyone
20:20
Speaker 1: in the cast is disgusted that Rachel has the nerve
20:24
Speaker 1: to sue Ariana and sand of aal for revenge porn.
20:27
Speaker 1: Even Sandoval wonders if Rachel has has a soul due
20:31
Speaker 1: to the fact that she's willing to put Arianna through
20:34
Speaker 1: even more trauma. Even Tom has the insight to see
20:39
Speaker 1: that Rachel suing Ariana is laughable and ridiculous.
20:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
20:43
Speaker 2: I mean that's when you know it's severely just wrong
20:48
Speaker 2: and inappropriate.
20:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's like this is this.
20:52
Speaker 2: When when Sandoval has the insight, damn, you're like shit.
21:00
Speaker 3: Then this part I want.
21:02
Speaker 1: To discuss a little bit, like and not I know,
21:06
Speaker 1: we like to laugh off a couple of things. But
21:08
Speaker 1: something that I have talked about, even with Edwin is
21:13
Speaker 1: the amount of partners that sue when one breaks up
21:20
Speaker 1: with the other one, that somebody will say, whether it's
21:24
Speaker 1: true or not true, that they're going to commit suicide
21:28
Speaker 1: or they're having suicidal ideations. I did look up one
21:33
Speaker 1: in five suicide stem from problems with a romantic partner.
21:37
Speaker 1: And Shina made an excellent point when she said Arianna
21:42
Speaker 1: told him in confidence, and then Sandoval expressed his suicidal
21:47
Speaker 1: thoughts on his own volition. Also in that same token, though,
21:53
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on bringing off camera conversations to
21:59
Speaker 1: life on the show? Show? Because it happens later on
22:01
Speaker 1: in the reunion not as as severe as a topic,
22:04
Speaker 1: clearly because it's not in regards to any suicidal ideations,
22:08
Speaker 1: but Lala saying you know this, you know you brought
22:14
Speaker 1: this enough off confidence of something she said. But then
22:17
Speaker 1: Lala does the same thing about Cavings that.
22:20
Speaker 2: Katie said, Yeah, you know, here's my I feel like
22:23
Speaker 2: anytime you have a conversation off camera or when you're
22:27
Speaker 2: not filming with a cast member, that it's truly an
22:30
Speaker 2: assumption of risk that that conversation is going to come up,
22:33
Speaker 2: and I have that in my mind every time if
22:36
Speaker 2: I have a conversation with Gina, even though I trust
22:39
Speaker 2: her one hundred percent, I do feel like there's always
22:41
Speaker 2: that in the back of my mind that this could
22:43
Speaker 2: come back up at some point with anyone on a cast.
22:46
Speaker 2: So I think if you're filming a TV show and
22:48
Speaker 2: you're having conversations, you can say all day long that
22:50
Speaker 2: this is in confidence. You can ask the other person.
22:53
Speaker 2: But I really feel like you are taking that risk.
22:57
Speaker 1: Do you think you should be taking that risk. Do
23:00
Speaker 1: you think you would think that you were taking that
23:02
Speaker 1: risk if you were in a relationship with that person
23:05
Speaker 1: for ten years.
23:06
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that you should have that mindset.
23:09
Speaker 2: I think whatever you're saying to someone that you're in
23:11
Speaker 2: a committed relationship with that you've been in for ten years. Like,
23:13
Speaker 2: if I have conversations with Shane, you know, offline, I
23:17
Speaker 2: don't expect him to bring it up when we're filming.
23:20
Speaker 2: I don't don't expect him to be like, well, last
23:22
Speaker 2: night in bed, you said, like I trust that man.
23:27
Speaker 1: Yeah.
23:27
Speaker 2: So I do understand how him bringing up that conversation
23:31
Speaker 2: later was such a breach of a duty that he
23:35
Speaker 2: had to her as a partner at that time. I
23:37
Speaker 2: understand why he did it because I think he was
23:40
Speaker 2: trying to explain why it was difficult for him to
23:43
Speaker 2: just walk away or to just break up with her.
23:46
Speaker 2: So I think that he felt the need for himself
23:49
Speaker 2: to say that to expand. But there are times when,
23:54
Speaker 2: no matter what the explanation is, you just keep your
23:56
Speaker 2: mouth shut because you owe a duty to someone.
23:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, And almost wasn't necessary to go to that length.
24:03
Speaker 1: He could have said, you know, now I'm acting like
24:08
Speaker 1: Sandoval's pr person, like Laala was. But he could have said,
24:14
Speaker 1: you know, Arianna repeatedly shared some of her mental health
24:17
Speaker 1: struggles that would you know involve were involved when it
24:22
Speaker 1: came to us breaking up, and I felt so much
24:25
Speaker 1: guilt and panic that it was too hard for me
24:27
Speaker 1: to walk away. Like he didn't have to spell it
24:29
Speaker 1: out in the way that he did.
24:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess the conversation could have been
24:36
Speaker 2: just there are more issues and deeper rooted issues that
24:39
Speaker 2: you're unaware of that I'm not comfortable talking about. But
24:41
Speaker 2: it wasn't that easy, Like I couldn't just.
24:43
Speaker 1: Walk away or I was scared to leave.
24:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
24:47
Speaker 1: Then he gets into trying to explain his comparison between
24:49
Speaker 1: Scandival and George Floyd, and la La agrees that Scannival
24:54
Speaker 1: is a joke compared to what else is happening in
24:56
Speaker 1: the world. At this point, I'm I'm starting to get
25:00
Speaker 1: a little I see Lalla almost like stepping into protection
25:07
Speaker 1: of Sandamal, which I don't know is protection of the
25:11
Speaker 1: television show or protection of him, because at some point,
25:15
Speaker 1: I forget who says it. One of them says, for
25:17
Speaker 1: the sake of the show, can you please quit talking
25:20
Speaker 1: to people?
25:22
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who was that?
25:23
Speaker 1: I remember that was Laala as well.
25:25
Speaker 3: Did she say it to Tom? Yeah, yeah, you know,
25:29
Speaker 3: it's probably.
25:31
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like Lala says intelligent things, and
25:34
Speaker 2: I feel like she is very much a voice of reason,
25:36
Speaker 2: and I feel like she was trying to clarify what
25:38
Speaker 2: Sandoval meant because it was so ridiculous what he said
25:42
Speaker 2: that I think that in order to save the show
25:46
Speaker 2: in general face that she had to step in and
25:48
Speaker 2: kind of expand that he wasn't trying to compare himself
25:51
Speaker 2: to these people per se. It was more of why
25:54
Speaker 2: is this getting the same amount of attention on a
25:57
Speaker 2: global scale when these are real issues and this is
26:00
Speaker 2: just a reality show, Like why are they on the
26:03
Speaker 2: same level globally?
26:05
Speaker 1: But then Katie made such a good point. She's like,
26:07
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily what I forget exactly what she said,
26:11
Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily your intent of what impact, it's
26:14
Speaker 1: the impact. And I think that really, I mean, that's
26:17
Speaker 1: the key of clickmate. I mean the amount of times
26:21
Speaker 1: that I could assume something and then I read the
26:23
Speaker 1: article and I'm like, that's not what it freaking said.
26:27
Speaker 2: You know all of it well, And the problem is
26:30
Speaker 2: is that we're a clickbait society. So you can put
26:34
Speaker 2: anything into two sentences and people will read those two
26:38
Speaker 2: sentences and then regurt to take that information over and
26:41
Speaker 2: over and over as truth without actually reading the meat
26:44
Speaker 2: of the article. And that's a lot of the problem
26:46
Speaker 2: in society.
26:48
Speaker 1: And also just like essentially, Tom, quit trying to get
26:52
Speaker 1: your ass canceled so we can keep a show going,
26:54
Speaker 1: Like that's why.
26:55
Speaker 2: She's think, I think that's basically you could just boil
26:58
Speaker 2: it down to that, that's what that's.
27:00
Speaker 3: That's surely shut up.
27:04
Speaker 1: Then Lala gets emotional talking about Ocean and the custody
27:07
Speaker 1: battle between herself and Randall She confirms baby number two
27:10
Speaker 1: will not have a similar name to Ocean, and Tom says,
27:14
Speaker 1: what about drive like Ocean Drive?
27:17
Speaker 2: I really want it again, Tom.
27:22
Speaker 1: Then Lala says more men are interested in her now
27:25
Speaker 1: that she's pregnant. We see some of the ways that
27:28
Speaker 1: like Lisa vander Pump is like Duck can't wrap her
27:32
Speaker 1: head around any of this. She uses words like bitter
27:36
Speaker 1: you will find someone. She's very old school in the
27:39
Speaker 1: way that she looks at it, like I don't even
27:42
Speaker 1: think it crossed her mind that like somebody would have
27:45
Speaker 1: sex with a pregnant person.
27:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looked appalled, like she was like, oh, I
27:51
Speaker 2: was like, come.
27:55
Speaker 3: On, Lisa, let's go.
27:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are in twenty twenty four and.
28:00
Speaker 3: You Lala's hot and she's single, so yeah whatever.
28:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, she couldn't. She's and I think that's the struggle.
28:09
Speaker 1: You can see where she gets caught and like her
28:11
Speaker 1: old thinking and she's unable to like pivot. Then Sheena
28:16
Speaker 1: addresses her postpartum ocd uh. She says she lives in
28:20
Speaker 1: her comments and she saw the way that Brock and
28:24
Speaker 1: Laala look at each other and that scares her. Then
28:26
Speaker 1: Lala calls them a throuple. I was like, well, now
28:29
Speaker 1: that scares me.
28:30
Speaker 3: It looked odd, a little awkward.
28:33
Speaker 1: Maybe just my paranoia that I'm like, I don't know.
28:36
Speaker 1: I saw these like googly.
28:38
Speaker 3: Eye, googly eyes, sparkly eyes.
28:41
Speaker 1: Schwartz was giving her those, Lalla those same eyes.
28:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was when they were talking about flirting. But
28:47
Speaker 2: I thought, but someone made the reference. They said, well,
28:50
Speaker 2: I feel like it's more of Schwartz flirting with Laala,
28:52
Speaker 2: and definitely when they did the flashbacks, he's always making
28:55
Speaker 2: some kind of flirtatious comment towards her.
28:58
Speaker 1: Well, then I was confused about something else because then
29:00
Speaker 1: Arianna says something along the lines of, oh, that could
29:05
Speaker 1: be fun, And I was like, really in regards to
29:10
Speaker 1: in regards to Schwartz and Laala hooking up?
29:14
Speaker 3: Oh did she she said that that could be fun?
29:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like that could be interesting or that could
29:18
Speaker 1: be fun something like that. And I was like, hold up,
29:21
Speaker 1: how could in what world could.
29:23
Speaker 3: That be fun?
29:24
Speaker 1: Knowing what we know now.
29:25
Speaker 2: Right, And isn't that kind of a I don't know,
29:29
Speaker 2: like a code violation there isn't she supposed to be like,
29:33
Speaker 2: you know, girl code with Katie?
29:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, but speaking of girl code. We can't forget, we
29:37
Speaker 1: can't go back in time when Laala may have you know,
29:44
Speaker 1: there was some action going on in the backseat of
29:47
Speaker 1: the car with her and Ariana. So the idea of this,
29:52
Speaker 1: all of the relationships being open, seem plausible.
30:00
Speaker 3: Disability flu fill.
30:01
Speaker 1: It if you will. Oh my gosh, this part was sad.
30:12
Speaker 1: I got emotional too. Brock starts to cry talking about
30:15
Speaker 1: his kids.
30:16
Speaker 3: I cried too. I cried.
30:18
Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about you in that moment, and
30:21
Speaker 1: I had a question for you because I know that
30:25
Speaker 1: you've talked about your relationship with your family, and do
30:31
Speaker 1: you feel that when it comes to you, know, Brock says,
30:35
Speaker 1: something you know, I've been paying since whatever the beginning
30:38
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, And something my EXAs said is the
30:41
Speaker 1: kids have not brought up that they want to have
30:45
Speaker 1: a relationship with you. Do you think that is something
30:48
Speaker 1: kids do bring up or do you think that's something
30:52
Speaker 1: the parenting figure needs to foster if they're interested in that.
30:56
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting that you asked me this, because honestly,
30:59
Speaker 2: if you didn't ask me, I was going to talk
31:00
Speaker 2: about this anyway, because I had a very strong reaction
31:02
Speaker 2: to what he said, so, I mean, if you follow
31:05
Speaker 2: real housewives or whatever.
31:07
Speaker 3: I don't really have a relationship with my dad.
31:09
Speaker 2: He left when I was very young, six and I
31:12
Speaker 2: did not see him much growing up. And I remember
31:15
Speaker 2: when I turned eighteen, my dad said something to me
31:19
Speaker 2: to the effect of, oh, well, now you're eighteen, you're
31:22
Speaker 2: an adult, so if you want to see me, you
31:24
Speaker 2: know where I live. And I remember thinking, are you
31:28
Speaker 2: kidding me? Like the burden as a child shouldn't be
31:32
Speaker 2: on me. And that's all I kept thinking about when
31:34
Speaker 2: he said that, was I understand where he's coming from. Maybe,
31:39
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, the kids won't.
31:41
Speaker 2: They need to see him make an effort. So, Brock,
31:44
Speaker 2: I don't know. You probably don't listen, but if you are,
31:46
Speaker 2: if someone could forward this to him, my advice would
31:50
Speaker 2: be from a child who grew up without a dad
31:52
Speaker 2: around that as a child, we want someone to make
31:55
Speaker 2: the effort. We want someone to come forward, even if
31:58
Speaker 2: we're not receptive. He still needs to make the effort.
32:01
Speaker 2: He still needs to try, He still needs to reach out.
32:03
Speaker 2: He still needs to say, Hey, maybe you're not ready,
32:06
Speaker 2: but I'm here when you are. You know, he needs
32:09
Speaker 2: to make that effort and not just said great effort
32:12
Speaker 2: is like cars texts, Hey, just thinking about you, whenever
32:16
Speaker 2: you're ready to talk. I'm here, Hey, I would love
32:18
Speaker 2: to see you. I would love to be around. Let
32:20
Speaker 2: me know when you're available, let me know when you're ready.
32:22
Speaker 1: Like he has to do that because a child's form
32:26
Speaker 1: a thought process of when they're feeling like they've been
32:28
Speaker 1: rejected in some way, whether that's the case or not,
32:31
Speaker 1: is only going to grow as the years come. So
32:33
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just magically going to change. If
32:36
Speaker 1: he doesn't change something, and then if he doesn't try
32:38
Speaker 1: to build and foster something more with Courtney where she
32:42
Speaker 1: feels comfortable sharing with the kids. Your dad is here
32:45
Speaker 1: and he loves you, and he wants to see you,
32:47
Speaker 1: whether you want to see them or not.
32:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, and kids don't know.
32:51
Speaker 2: I mean, if kids are going to say, well, no,
32:53
Speaker 2: I don't want to see him because they don't have
32:55
Speaker 2: that relationship, they're just going to go with whatever's comfortable.
32:58
Speaker 2: He has to put himself out there and make himself uncomfortable.
33:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean Katie showed a lot in this.
33:05
Speaker 1: In this portion, she says she takes back her words
33:08
Speaker 1: from years ago because she recognizes how great of a
33:11
Speaker 1: dad he is. Katie showed right here what we call
33:14
Speaker 1: growth and accountability. She says, like, I regret saying that,
33:18
Speaker 1: I realize what what happened.
33:20
Speaker 3: And then Brock.
33:22
Speaker 1: Actually says something in response along the lines of like
33:26
Speaker 1: actions have consequences. That's what he said, and and just
33:30
Speaker 1: the fact that he said it that outright was like,
33:33
Speaker 1: I realize I've.
33:34
Speaker 3: Done absolutely, but I did.
33:36
Speaker 2: I did appreciate what Katie said, and I do know
33:39
Speaker 2: that she comes off harsh sometimes, but I do feel
33:42
Speaker 2: as if when she comes off harsh and then later
33:45
Speaker 2: she is wrong or she regrets what she said, she's
33:48
Speaker 2: always one to own it and apologize. And I think
33:52
Speaker 2: that's that's what makes someone good on TV. It's the
33:54
Speaker 2: growth that you just said, it's the accountability.
33:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, then we get to Ariana doesn't want to put
34:01
Speaker 1: herself on hold while she's navigating through her healing process.
34:05
Speaker 1: That's why she sees no problem with dating Dan. The
34:08
Speaker 1: entire thing between Dan, the conversation about Dan versus Allie
34:12
Speaker 1: and I, honest none of it really is of interest
34:15
Speaker 1: to me.
34:16
Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't really understand what the comparison was.
34:19
Speaker 1: Then we get into Santoval and his new girlfriend and
34:21
Speaker 1: then James being like, there's Leonardo wallpaper and all of
34:27
Speaker 1: this stuff. I'm like and then Ariana being like, I
34:30
Speaker 1: picked the wallpaper all ky. I was like, this is
34:33
Speaker 1: a lot for me to process.
34:36
Speaker 3: But that's her takeaway. Yeah, like that was my that's
34:39
Speaker 3: her takeaway.
34:40
Speaker 2: When it comes to the house, She's like, that's I
34:42
Speaker 2: picked that damn wallpaper out.
34:43
Speaker 3: Just wander everybody.
34:44
Speaker 1: Did this ship years ago that my ex partner was
34:48
Speaker 1: going to be with Leonardo Dicapriosa. But I clocked that.
34:54
Speaker 1: I also clogged Tom short smile when he saw that
34:57
Speaker 1: something about her had opening trouble. He was like this.
35:01
Speaker 1: I was like, stop butter poker face, right. But yeah.
35:08
Speaker 1: Then they talk about how Pump is closed and Lisa
35:11
Speaker 1: believes a business that was running for ten years is successful.
35:15
Speaker 1: Arianna makes a snide comment asking really, and then.
35:19
Speaker 3: We see didn't.
35:20
Speaker 2: I thought that was so crappy of her to do, though,
35:22
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it was editing.
35:24
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you could have started it or that.
35:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, know that Arianna said that, I mean she's opening
35:29
Speaker 2: a business. It's taken I mean the business still isn't
35:32
Speaker 2: open yet. You're talking about someone that did run a
35:34
Speaker 2: successful business for ten years, and then she makes that comment,
35:37
Speaker 2: like really, I don't know. I just thought it was
35:39
Speaker 2: off putting. I thought it was distasteful.
35:41
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was distasteful in both regards because
35:44
Speaker 1: I thought that what Arianna said was a little bit eh.
35:47
Speaker 1: And then also the way that Lisa really doubles down
35:51
Speaker 1: against something about her. Clearly, I don't know, this may
35:55
Speaker 1: be the wrong word, but there's either some animosity between
36:00
Speaker 1: the two or jealousy or whatever. It is, like they
36:04
Speaker 1: feel some kind of way about each other and it's
36:06
Speaker 1: not being spoken about, so it's being put through their businesses.
36:09
Speaker 2: Okay, do you think it's because well, Penny was recommended
36:13
Speaker 2: to them by Lisa, right, yeah, yeah, so maybe the
36:16
Speaker 2: issues with Penny are are, you know, coming like Lisa
36:20
Speaker 2: doesn't like their way they're treating Penny or something.
36:23
Speaker 1: You know.
36:23
Speaker 3: I don't know.
36:24
Speaker 2: I think there's I think it's a messier than we know.
36:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there's a they said on the union, there's
36:29
Speaker 1: a lawsuit involved, so clearly shit's hitting the fan. The
36:34
Speaker 1: other thing I didn't really understand is when they say
36:37
Speaker 1: Schworts and we didn't see Shorts and Sandy's this season
36:40
Speaker 1: because the partner didn't want any filming in there. I'm like, listen, Greg,
36:44
Speaker 1: why and why in the world would you get into
36:48
Speaker 1: business with two reality television people and not want to
36:53
Speaker 1: even if shit hit the fan and you didn't realize it,
36:56
Speaker 1: but like, why would you Why would you even get
36:59
Speaker 1: into that business? In thet it would be like me saying, like, oh,
37:03
Speaker 1: why Schwartz and Sandoval moving in together? Like it clearly
37:08
Speaker 1: you know what you're getting yourself into in that.
37:10
Speaker 3: Well, you know.
37:10
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I think he knew what he
37:12
Speaker 2: was getting into when it was helpful and beneficial because
37:15
Speaker 2: they're on a show and people are coming in and
37:17
Speaker 2: people are there because of the show. But then I
37:19
Speaker 2: think he could never anticipate scandabal and the backlash that
37:24
Speaker 2: came from that, because I do know, didn't the business suffer,
37:27
Speaker 2: weren't people writing horrible reviews on Yelp and like the
37:30
Speaker 2: business was struggling and everyone was talking negatively, And so
37:34
Speaker 2: I think that's what that guy's probably traumatized.
37:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
37:38
Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Ali wasn't out there from the beginning.
37:43
Speaker 2: No, because I don't really I don't really think of
37:45
Speaker 2: Ali as a main vander Pumperle's person.
37:49
Speaker 1: So I Rock was out there, but I guess he
37:51
Speaker 1: has a storyline more than the tarity.
37:53
Speaker 2: I don't well, I felt like Brock was involved a
37:55
Speaker 2: lot more. I felt like Ali's just more of a
37:58
Speaker 2: good sidekick. I do think bro was involved in a
38:01
Speaker 2: lot of the conversations and had a lot of opinions
38:04
Speaker 2: about things.
38:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true. Then Ariana admits she didn't watch
38:08
Speaker 1: this season at all, which gets some surprised looks from
38:11
Speaker 1: Lisa and the cast members. I'm like, Lisa, this is
38:13
Speaker 1: your line. Why do you look surprised right now? This
38:16
Speaker 1: is your favorite thing to say. But I can. When
38:19
Speaker 1: she said it, I kind of was like, all right,
38:21
Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. But then it gets this
38:25
Speaker 1: is where things take a turn. Apparently, Katie and Lala's
38:30
Speaker 1: fighting stems from a DM Katie sent to Lalla that read,
38:34
Speaker 1: get rid of your lawyers because what you need is
38:36
Speaker 1: a fucking therapist. You're a fucking clown.
38:39
Speaker 3: I wanted to deceive receipts of that, didn't you.
38:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
38:42
Speaker 2: I was like waiting for them to flash the DM
38:45
Speaker 2: or something up because I really wanted to see what.
38:47
Speaker 1: It said, but neither of them denied it neither you know,
38:52
Speaker 1: you know what exists.
38:53
Speaker 2: That's why I thought they would have actually shown it,
38:56
Speaker 2: because it's not like anyone was saying no, I didn't
38:59
Speaker 2: send that, that's not what I said. But I really
39:01
Speaker 2: wanted to see what it was said exactly.
39:03
Speaker 1: But I think the reason it wasn't shown is it
39:06
Speaker 1: probably breaks too many fourth walls.
39:08
Speaker 3: You mean there was other conversations.
39:10
Speaker 1: I was another conversation in there that's too much production
39:14
Speaker 1: y and they were like, both of them are admitting it.
39:17
Speaker 1: There's no reason to show the screenshot because it's only
39:20
Speaker 1: going to expose how both of them were trying to
39:24
Speaker 1: avoid this.
39:25
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you a question, because I don't
39:27
Speaker 2: maybe you know more what is the background on this DM,
39:31
Speaker 2: like what.
39:32
Speaker 3: Led to it?
39:33
Speaker 1: I don't actually know.
39:35
Speaker 2: I needed more context. I guess this is what I'm saying.
39:37
Speaker 2: I needed more context to understand. I felt like that
39:39
Speaker 2: conversation between Katie and Laala at the reunion, I feel
39:42
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, it just started and they
39:45
Speaker 2: were talking about a DM, and then they're talking about
39:47
Speaker 2: what the DM said, and I felt like there was
39:48
Speaker 2: a lack of context.
39:50
Speaker 1: Clearly there's a moment that Laala out some of the
39:53
Speaker 1: things that Katie is allegedly said to her, how Arianna
39:57
Speaker 1: abandoned her at the sandwich shop and wasn't up to
40:00
Speaker 1: date on rent, and then the two girls had a
40:02
Speaker 1: phone call where allegedly Katie threatened, if you with my business,
40:06
Speaker 1: I'm going to with yours, Lala wishes. She responded by saying,
40:10
Speaker 1: something about her is nothing about her, because Katie doesn't
40:13
Speaker 1: even have a business yet, and Lala's business helped support
40:17
Speaker 1: her child. Like, all of this is getting lost a
40:19
Speaker 1: little bit. Do I think on all reality shows you
40:23
Speaker 1: have off camera conversations where you talked shit about people, Yeah,
40:26
Speaker 1: as they will talk shit in general. Do you think
40:29
Speaker 1: Laala crossed a line by sharing this private conversation.
40:37
Speaker 2: No, I don't, And that's just coming from someone that's
40:39
Speaker 2: on a reality show that has had conversations that then
40:42
Speaker 2: I was asked about and then I had to talk
40:44
Speaker 2: about them. I mean, if you think about all the
40:47
Speaker 2: conversations last year that revolved Shannon and things that she
40:51
Speaker 2: told us offline, off you know, off camera, but then
40:54
Speaker 2: you know the heart of really her story and what
40:57
Speaker 2: was going on had to do with her relationship with John,
40:59
Speaker 2: So then I did have to talk about it.
41:02
Speaker 3: I don't know.
41:02
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like Laala feels like she had
41:04
Speaker 2: these conversations and Katie told her these things and invested
41:08
Speaker 2: this information with her, and she was truthful about how
41:11
Speaker 2: she felt about Arianna, and then they pick up the
41:13
Speaker 2: cameras and then she doesn't act that way.
41:16
Speaker 1: So do you think Lala was extra ticked? Because Lala
41:20
Speaker 1: was exposed at the finale about the things that she
41:24
Speaker 1: was saying about Ariana that were really show related, not
41:27
Speaker 1: personal about that, but like about their livelihood, and Katie
41:31
Speaker 1: got off scott free, and so this was her way
41:34
Speaker 1: of kind of sticking it to her.
41:35
Speaker 3: Probably, I'm sure there were some of that too.
41:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like like, well, like, I shouldn't be
41:40
Speaker 2: the only one getting this backlash. I'm not the only
41:42
Speaker 2: one that felt this way. You did too, You're just
41:44
Speaker 2: not saying it. I'm saying it.
41:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, But and I normally always see Laala's you know,
41:51
Speaker 1: I love Laala. She's a friend of mine. I love her.
41:54
Speaker 1: I think she's well spoken most of the time. I
41:56
Speaker 1: think she makes good points. I do think she crossed
41:59
Speaker 1: a lot here. I wish you would have said, Katie,
42:04
Speaker 1: now is your chance to say all the things you
42:07
Speaker 1: said to me off camera about Ariana, because you got
42:11
Speaker 1: me to a position where I was worked up. I
42:14
Speaker 1: was on behalf of all of us speaking out and
42:19
Speaker 1: then you never did it. So it makes me solely
42:21
Speaker 1: look like the asshole. But she didn't say that. She
42:24
Speaker 1: just fully out of the situation. And then you see
42:26
Speaker 1: Katie's kind of like.
42:28
Speaker 3: Shit, I did say that.
42:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Katie doesn't say she didn't say it, but
42:35
Speaker 1: then Katie does post on her Instagram. I'm someone who
42:38
Speaker 1: has suffered from imposter syndrome for as long as I
42:41
Speaker 1: have known myself, Hence why I was apprehensive about opening
42:45
Speaker 1: the sandwich shop on my own. So when Ariana was
42:48
Speaker 1: going through not only a world of hurt, but also
42:50
Speaker 1: getting some amazing opportunities that changed a lot of things
42:54
Speaker 1: during a pivotal time, I was extremely sensitive to what
42:57
Speaker 1: she was going through, but also very supportive. Was also
43:00
Speaker 1: dealing with the immense and security about what I could
43:03
Speaker 1: take on and simply didn't want to put that on her.
43:06
Speaker 1: I had an emotional response that didn't feel appropriate bringing
43:10
Speaker 1: to her front door. So I went to where it
43:12
Speaker 1: felt safe or where I thought it was safe until
43:16
Speaker 1: I find the appropriate conversation to have with Ariana, which
43:20
Speaker 1: of course I did, and we have had plenty since.
43:25
Speaker 3: Well, this is a dig at La La.
43:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, clear clearly.
43:29
Speaker 2: I mean I think she says it well, it's very
43:31
Speaker 2: articulate and it makes sense. She was saying like, I
43:34
Speaker 2: wasn't comfortable going to Ariana. She had a lot on
43:36
Speaker 2: her plate, so I vented to someone else. So I
43:38
Speaker 2: thought I could trust Clearly I couldn't trust her. You know,
43:41
Speaker 2: I don't know. I see both sides. I see Katie's viewpoints.
43:44
Speaker 2: She thought she could trust La La. But then I understand,
43:47
Speaker 2: you're on a show. I do think that when you
43:49
Speaker 2: tell someone you're on a show with. I mean, were
43:50
Speaker 2: there other people she could have gone to that aren't
43:52
Speaker 2: on the same show.
43:54
Speaker 1: Well, I think also what's being implied is that Katie
43:58
Speaker 1: wasn't being real on camera.
44:00
Speaker 3: Yes, and absolutely, And.
44:02
Speaker 1: I think that is always something that bugs the rest
44:08
Speaker 1: of the cast members when they are sharing their true
44:10
Speaker 1: emotions on camera and somebody is not see I'm.
44:14
Speaker 2: One of those that's bugged. I get bugged because I
44:17
Speaker 2: say things on camera.
44:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, do I think that everybody? I mean, I completely
44:22
Speaker 1: get what Katie's saying. Also, like, I still love and
44:25
Speaker 1: care about my friend Ariana, but in the moment, I
44:27
Speaker 1: got upset by something and I vented to a friend.
44:30
Speaker 3: Have I done that before? Yes? But nine times out
44:33
Speaker 3: of tend it's something.
44:34
Speaker 1: That I also am comfortable saying to their face, right,
44:39
Speaker 1: Which is I get comfortable saying to their face. I'm
44:41
Speaker 1: just prepping myself to feel comfortable enough to say it
44:44
Speaker 1: to their face.
44:45
Speaker 2: Right, And if you're telling someone that you're on a
44:47
Speaker 2: cast with, I feel like, in my mind, I always think,
44:49
Speaker 2: am I comfortable? Because there's the possibility that this comes
44:52
Speaker 2: up later?
44:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but this is where we see the real divide,
44:57
Speaker 1: And I wonder if that divide had started once Laala
45:01
Speaker 1: and Sena became close, because clearly Sena and Katie do
45:05
Speaker 1: not have that immense love for one another. But then
45:09
Speaker 1: coming up in part two, we see that Ali and
45:11
Speaker 1: Joe join the reunion and Sandoval knows some things but
45:16
Speaker 1: is deciding to keep his mouth shut, and we see
45:18
Speaker 1: Ariana and Laala get into it.
45:20
Speaker 3: What does Sandoval?
45:21
Speaker 1: No? No, no, But would you feel the same way.
45:26
Speaker 1: If you were Katie and Ariana left to New York
45:29
Speaker 1: for Broadway without notice.
45:32
Speaker 3: I would.
45:33
Speaker 2: I think Katie's frustration with Arianna is reasonable. I mean,
45:36
Speaker 2: she probably feels like they're supposed to open this business together.
45:39
Speaker 2: It's clearly much more difficult than they anticipated. Ariana is
45:42
Speaker 2: running off with all these opportunities. I don't know about
45:45
Speaker 2: the rent situation, Like they didn't really clarify that was
45:48
Speaker 2: she not paying rent?
45:49
Speaker 3: Was she paying rent?
45:50
Speaker 2: No one really spoke up, So I don't know about that,
45:54
Speaker 2: but I'm sure she I'm sure Katie was severely frustrated
45:58
Speaker 2: in the moment, thinking she just took off on all
45:59
Speaker 2: the opportunities and I'm here trying to figure this out,
46:02
Speaker 2: left holding the bat right and I'm paying the rent,
46:05
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to figure out this business, and you know,
46:07
Speaker 2: she's nowhere around.
46:08
Speaker 3: So I get it.
46:09
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure her frustration was probably more than
46:12
Speaker 2: we even realize.
46:13
Speaker 3: What is imposter syndrome, For example.
46:15
Speaker 1: Like I'll be very self deprecating in a moment to
46:19
Speaker 1: give the illusion that I'm okay with handling something, you
46:23
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
46:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's when you feel like you don't actually belong
46:26
Speaker 2: where you are and yeah, oh, like you're.
46:28
Speaker 3: An impostor in a certain Yeah.
46:31
Speaker 1: So that's why if you're going to say, like, I
46:33
Speaker 1: don't give a blah blah blah, most of the time,
46:35
Speaker 1: you will give a little bit of a fat yeah.
46:37
Speaker 1: But that's your impostor syndrome coming for I don't know.
46:40
Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think that's why she has such
46:43
Speaker 2: a stoic I always think of her as very stoic,
46:46
Speaker 2: like a very stoic, hard personality, because she's suffering from
46:51
Speaker 2: imposter syndrome.
46:52
Speaker 3: I mean, it makes sense.
46:53
Speaker 1: And she's also protect probably protecting herself and from years
46:56
Speaker 1: of being in a dysfunctional relationship and on a television
46:59
Speaker 1: show where everything you do gets picked apart. I think
47:03
Speaker 1: you know that's what happens. But I do think it's
47:07
Speaker 1: going to get even more heated as it continues. Let's
47:11
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then go to the Valley
47:14
Speaker 1: episode nine. We are back to talk about episode nine.
47:26
Speaker 1: I don't really even know that there's that much we
47:29
Speaker 1: really need to fully recap. We can just do this
47:32
Speaker 1: in like a couple like, but.
47:33
Speaker 3: You want to do bullet points, Okay, bullet points.
47:38
Speaker 1: One. Jesse saying that he goes into every situation thinking
47:43
Speaker 1: how can I manipulate this?
47:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't narcissism.
47:48
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, but I need to know if
47:50
Speaker 1: Jesse got his beanie before or after the ayahuasca.
47:54
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that beanie was killing me. I was like,
47:56
Speaker 2: please take it off. I can't even take you seriously.
47:59
Speaker 2: It's like talking about like deep meditation and how he's
48:01
Speaker 2: a changed person. And then he tries to kiss Michelle
48:04
Speaker 2: and she's clearly not having it. But I'm like, just
48:08
Speaker 2: take the beanie off, Yeah, get it off.
48:12
Speaker 1: They talk about Zach crying about not being invited to
48:15
Speaker 1: Big Bear. Janet has her friends over to pack for
48:19
Speaker 1: her baby moon, even though they're not invited on her
48:21
Speaker 1: baby moon.
48:22
Speaker 2: I find, Yeah, I don't know, but I thought the
48:25
Speaker 2: one friend was amusing though, the spy.
48:28
Speaker 1: And then when she calls Zack and he's like, you're
48:32
Speaker 1: one friend with the pink Yeah, the pink boots.
48:35
Speaker 2: Pink boots was not Pink boots was not rogue at all.
48:39
Speaker 2: Pink boots was like so obvious.
48:41
Speaker 1: But also then Janet like, let's talk for a second
48:44
Speaker 1: about entitlement. You should not be entitled to kick people
48:49
Speaker 1: off of a work trip, and like, why why is
48:54
Speaker 1: Janet thinking she's casting this entire show and in charge
48:57
Speaker 1: of food comes? And who goes like, did I need
49:00
Speaker 1: Zach to be there? No? Not really if I'm being honest,
49:03
Speaker 1: But I also didn't need a lot of other things
49:06
Speaker 1: to happen on that trip. But like, it's not really
49:08
Speaker 1: up to her. That baby moon was not about a
49:11
Speaker 1: baby moon. You weren't even spending time with your significant other.
49:14
Speaker 1: You're off on like a booie ride with all the girls.
49:19
Speaker 2: Right, And also, I mean, let's just be honest, how
49:21
Speaker 2: much more interesting would it have been with Kristin and Luke?
49:23
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Kristen's a mess.
49:26
Speaker 1: We would have appreciated Kristin and Luke Zach. I think
49:29
Speaker 1: Zach wasn't bummed because not because he wanted to be
49:33
Speaker 1: there at the baby moon, but he's like, that's good
49:36
Speaker 1: screener time.
49:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
49:39
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Zach, Zach's not getting the camera
49:42
Speaker 2: time and he thought he was going to Does he
49:44
Speaker 2: really want to go on a couple's baby moon?
49:47
Speaker 3: No?
49:48
Speaker 1: But he's like, I need every second to show off
49:51
Speaker 1: my hair on the show, and I need it to
49:54
Speaker 1: be in Big Bear. But then Kristin and Luke talking
49:57
Speaker 1: about being at a crossroads in the group. Do they
50:00
Speaker 1: move forward? Do they move away? They're not. Kristin's not
50:04
Speaker 1: moving away. This is going to come back around, don't
50:07
Speaker 1: you think?
50:08
Speaker 3: Well it has to. I mean, come on, you have
50:10
Speaker 3: to move forward. That's your job.
50:12
Speaker 1: Do your job, move forward and quit letting others figure
50:18
Speaker 1: out this situation. And for the like, just take notes,
50:21
Speaker 1: Just jot down some notes so you get things right
50:24
Speaker 1: when you explain them.
50:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, get your note cards ready, Kristen, come on, Yeah,
50:29
Speaker 2: have Louke caulled up Q cards in the back.
50:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, write it like big.
50:34
Speaker 1: Luc could just wear it on his T shirt like
50:37
Speaker 1: the other slogans. Yeah, then they're at the Big Bear house.
50:41
Speaker 1: Janet gives Jacks the T shirt of him drowning. Jesse
50:44
Speaker 1: brings a suit case full of champagne. I do agree
50:47
Speaker 1: with Jesse. When people say they have everything, they don't
50:49
Speaker 1: always have everything.
50:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well stocked does not mean well stocked.
50:53
Speaker 1: No, But then they still didn't have all the things
50:55
Speaker 1: they needed for the beach. They didn't have beers. They
50:58
Speaker 1: only had straight like tequila and vodka. Which did not
51:02
Speaker 1: vode well for the entire group.
51:04
Speaker 2: No, especially Jesse. He was a mess on that beach.
51:07
Speaker 2: He was just like like out of control. He's like
51:10
Speaker 2: jumping on the chairs and like trying to strangle out
51:14
Speaker 2: what's Nia's husband's name, Danny, Danny, and like that he
51:19
Speaker 2: smacked Michelle in the face.
51:22
Speaker 3: I mean all of it.
51:23
Speaker 1: I mean even before they even get to the beach
51:25
Speaker 1: where Jane it's like you have to put twenty dollars
51:28
Speaker 1: in a jar every time you make a mistake yourself
51:30
Speaker 1: as the main character. Like stop, you're talking about a
51:34
Speaker 1: main character on the show. Of course you're going to
51:36
Speaker 1: talk about it, and like I would say it just
51:39
Speaker 1: so I could get somebody else rich at this point,
51:41
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're going to talk about Kristin not
51:44
Speaker 1: being there, right, Why even say that? I hate when
51:47
Speaker 1: people do that.
51:48
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, Jan, I still am
51:50
Speaker 2: confused how Jane manages to kind of just slip by
51:54
Speaker 2: even though she really is the one who is the
51:57
Speaker 2: heart of all the gossip.
51:58
Speaker 3: It's just Kristen is just the bad messenger.
52:02
Speaker 1: Kristen's a bad messenger, and we see in her couple's
52:05
Speaker 1: therapy counseling. She doesn't really want to talk about the
52:08
Speaker 1: hard things.
52:09
Speaker 3: I think she is.
52:11
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna sound weird. I think she's
52:14
Speaker 1: actually a people pleaser, but when it comes to people pleasing,
52:17
Speaker 1: it's she's trying to people please, like production or whatever
52:20
Speaker 1: it is, to stay on the show. So she says
52:23
Speaker 1: shit she doesn't really want to say, but she says
52:25
Speaker 1: it anyway, and then she gets herself into trouble and
52:29
Speaker 1: then she doesn't know how to talk away out of
52:31
Speaker 1: it because she doesn't know how to like justify it
52:34
Speaker 1: because she does makes sense naturally want to do it.
52:37
Speaker 2: Also, can we just talk about how the couple's therapy,
52:40
Speaker 2: Like these two I like Luke and I like Chris,
52:43
Speaker 2: and I actually even kind of like them together. But
52:45
Speaker 2: the fact that they just have fundamental differences in just
52:49
Speaker 2: basic relationship things.
52:50
Speaker 1: Like where you're going to live, the financial.
52:54
Speaker 2: Financial things like you guys are talking about bringing a
52:57
Speaker 2: child into the world and he's adamant about not living
53:00
Speaker 2: in la and you're adamant that you would never live
53:04
Speaker 2: in the backwoods of Colorado.
53:05
Speaker 3: So how is this going to work? Explain that to me.
53:09
Speaker 1: I hate to be the one to give the cliff notes.
53:11
Speaker 3: But it's not it is not exactly.
53:15
Speaker 1: This is without any of these conversations, it is impossible
53:19
Speaker 1: to move forward, and having to have these conversations once
53:21
Speaker 1: you're already pregnant is even a worse plan.
53:25
Speaker 3: So okay, and what does what does Luke do for
53:27
Speaker 3: a living? Do we know? Did I miss that somewhere?
53:29
Speaker 1: I don't.
53:30
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he has like a farm or something,
53:32
Speaker 3: but he's not on his farm, so I don't know.
53:34
Speaker 1: I know he likes to fish and that makes him happy.
53:36
Speaker 1: I know they met at a wedding.
53:37
Speaker 3: But financially does he does he miss the valley?
53:41
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, well I think okay, I mean, if you
53:45
Speaker 1: can leave for a full summer, yeah, it's probably not
53:49
Speaker 1: a regular nine to five or that you got back
53:51
Speaker 1: at home. Right, But then we're at the beach. The
53:56
Speaker 1: beach is a shit show. I wouldn't want to be there.
53:58
Speaker 1: Nobody would want to be there. Brittany watches videos of
54:01
Speaker 1: Cruse at swim class where he's crying and then Jack
54:04
Speaker 1: gets upset and like kind of loses it. It's sad
54:07
Speaker 1: to watch.
54:08
Speaker 3: That's hard to watch.
54:09
Speaker 2: It's that he's so aggressive, Like I even I can
54:13
Speaker 2: even give him the benefit of the doubt and understand
54:16
Speaker 2: his point where it's like, hey, maybe this isn't the
54:18
Speaker 2: best time.
54:18
Speaker 3: We're at the beach trying to have fun.
54:20
Speaker 2: You're watching videos of the kid crying at a swim
54:22
Speaker 2: class that he clearly doesn't want to be at. But
54:25
Speaker 2: like the grabbing the phone and the yelling at her,
54:28
Speaker 2: it's like, can you just take it down a notch?
54:30
Speaker 1: Does he not realize that his screaming at her is
54:33
Speaker 1: worse than actually hearing the kid crying.
54:35
Speaker 2: No, that's where he's so unaware. Jack's I just I
54:39
Speaker 2: can't with him.
54:39
Speaker 1: Sometimes I could have done without Michelle and Jesse having
54:44
Speaker 1: the physical like play fight. We knew that wasn't going
54:47
Speaker 1: to end well. Then the guys are in the car
54:50
Speaker 1: and Danny asked Jesse if they're okay because the way
54:53
Speaker 1: Jesse was playing with him on the beach was aggressive.
54:56
Speaker 1: Jesse apologizes if Danny was offended, which we all know
54:59
Speaker 1: is not an apology, right, And then I'm still getting
55:06
Speaker 1: sad for Brittany in the car ride home because Britney's
55:09
Speaker 1: scared to say she's carsick. Clearly Brittany is not drunk
55:12
Speaker 1: at this time. She's scared to admit you know that
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Speaker 1: she's not feeling well, And so we see when they
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Speaker 1: go in the house like tensions are high. Things are already
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Speaker 1: going on. But then Jax pulls Michelle aside to get
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Speaker 1: the Kristin information off his chest. He says, he tells
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Speaker 1: her a few months ago, after a girls' night at
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Speaker 1: his house, he came home and Kristin told him that
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Speaker 1: Michelle was texting a guy on the side. Then this
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Speaker 1: is not even Jack's trying to spread this information.
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Speaker 2: Can I let me ask a question to clarify this
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Speaker 2: girl's night that he's referring to. This wasn't something that
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Speaker 2: was on camera. Correct, No, off camera, So this is
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Speaker 2: something that happened before they started filming.
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Speaker 3: Correct in my interpretation, right, That's the way I interpret
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Speaker 3: it as well.
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Speaker 1: Okay, But then Michelle's response to this is like it's
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Speaker 1: in pieces. But she's like, I was texting a celebrity.
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Speaker 1: And then she's like, He's like, well, Michelle, Michelle, Kristen
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Speaker 1: did say that you were like sending photos and then
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Speaker 1: she's like, I was sending sexy pictures. I'm like, what
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Speaker 1: is happening. It feels like right out of like the
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Speaker 1: ending of the Jinx, only Michelle is just out here
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Speaker 1: admitting things on camera for in her arms.
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Speaker 2: Okay, here was my question though, because the way it
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Speaker 2: was so choppy. Was it choppy because that's just her personality,
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Speaker 2: She has a choppy personality, or was it choppy like
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Speaker 2: that because they edited it that way. That's what I
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Speaker 2: haven't understand.
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping for her into editing, but I think that's
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Speaker 1: just how she talks.
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Speaker 2: So it isn't just choppy editing. It's just her personality.
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Speaker 2: It's just her delivery. And I don't wonder she is
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Speaker 2: right longer with the celebrity Now, I see why she
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Speaker 2: sends nude photos and not has actual conversations.
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Speaker 3: Make sure she's like to just look.
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Speaker 1: But I do think we are going to get more
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Speaker 1: into this, and clearly we see in next week's episode
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Speaker 1: the demise of multiple relationships from Brittany coming out because
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Speaker 1: she's hearing Jack's talk shit about her to Jesse admitting
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Speaker 1: that he thinks it's actually over with Michelle, no shit
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Speaker 1: sherlock all the things.
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Speaker 2: But and then I hope the actual celebrity name comes
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Speaker 2: out at some point so that Teddy can sleep at
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Speaker 2: night now, just.
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Speaker 3: Do not gonna happen?
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Speaker 1: Should I slide into Michelle's DMS and be like, I
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Speaker 1: promise they'll never tell, but I am on this little
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Speaker 1: podcast that'll just between us.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and tell her to make sure she doesn't listen
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Speaker 3: to it.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys, thanks for tuning in for
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Speaker 1: another episode of Popping Off. We'll be back with you
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Speaker 1: next week.
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Speaker 3: Wait, thanks for listening.
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Speaker 2: M mm hmmmm