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Giants manager Tony Vitello joins Splash Hit Territory · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to splash Hit territory. We have
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  Speaker 1: a very special guest with us. Tony Vaitello. Just got
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  Speaker 1: back from picking up his parents from the airport, ran
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  Speaker 1: in there, put his uniform on, jumped in a chair,
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  Speaker 1: turned on his computer and now you get to talk
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  Speaker 1: with us. So Tony, thank you for joining us for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit today. We appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: And as always, i'd like to put it out in public,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for how much you do for us during
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  Speaker 3: spring training. I don't know what the other years are like,
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  Speaker 3: but this year was awesome, so I appreciate it. It was
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  Speaker 3: it was fun getting to know the guy that I
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  Speaker 3: watched on TV and when you when you were out there,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of thought you were crazy, and then getting
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  Speaker 3: at getting the medium in person, it proved it true.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Hey man, I love that stuff. Man, I
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  Speaker 1: like crazy crazy is fun for me.
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  Speaker 4: Uh. You know, Tony, I appreciate you coming on. Man.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking about with you coming
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  Speaker 1: on today and I was like, I want to put
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  Speaker 1: away the manager hat for a second. You get a
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  Speaker 1: lot of those questions. I'm sure Susan's going to have
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  Speaker 1: some for you. I don't need to tag team that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's her job. But I just first, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got to hang out with Bruce. We were fly
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  Speaker 1: fishing a couple of weeks ago. Bochie and I was
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  Speaker 1: just life man. We get to talk life and I
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  Speaker 1: just love that about him and we put away that
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  Speaker 1: whole managing thought process. And just for me for a second,
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  Speaker 1: if you could take the manager hat off, I like
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the human side.
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  Speaker 4: You're one hundred and whatever we are.
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  Speaker 1: We're one hundred and twenty, one hundred and twenty get
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  Speaker 1: plus games into the season. But if you could give
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  Speaker 1: a little insight, if you could just Tony Bytello, who
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  Speaker 1: is he now?
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  Speaker 4: From opening day? Like? What have who is Tony right now? Now?
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  Speaker 1: These experienced one hundred and twenty games as a big,
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  Speaker 1: big manager.
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  Speaker 4: It has not been all roses. What thoughts do you
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  Speaker 4: have on that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is all tied in the job.
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe the key is in life when you're
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what you want to do. You
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  Speaker 3: want to figure out what do you want to do
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  Speaker 3: for a living. That's your passion, not your job. And
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  Speaker 3: so if you are fortunate, you know to be one
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  Speaker 3: of those that are doing something that they maybe get
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  Speaker 3: compensated for. But if they do it anyway, even if
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  Speaker 3: they weren't, then your life is your job, and so
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to take the manage your hat off.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think this.
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  Speaker 3: Has been a healthier and trust me, no one's wearing
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  Speaker 3: it more. And you guys come out to the field
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  Speaker 3: and I have so much respect for the tradition here
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  Speaker 3: and I meet a guy like Swan Dunstan's, I mean
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  Speaker 3: that was one of my idols. I mean, I was
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  Speaker 3: shaking myself that day, and then we don't perform well.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to say no one's wearing it worse than
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  Speaker 3: I am internally. But having said that, this has been
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  Speaker 3: a much healthier version of just being a human being.
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  Speaker 3: I think I don't know how football coaches do it
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  Speaker 3: one week in one game, and one game can literally
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  Speaker 3: get you fired in the SEC or the NFL, and
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  Speaker 3: it's it's not quite that heightened sense, but in college
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  Speaker 3: it truly is. If you don't land a portal guy,
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  Speaker 3: it can ruin your season or tarnish it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there's only ten weekends that there's such a big deal,
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  Speaker 3: and when you get on that bus after a tough loss,
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  Speaker 3: it rips you inside and out for a while. And
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  Speaker 3: I kind of carried that theme into this season, and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of it was just there was I don't
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  Speaker 3: really read a lot, but I think there was so
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  Speaker 3: much put into, you know, the storyline of someone.
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  Speaker 2: Coming from college.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't want to be the one that interfered
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  Speaker 3: with the success of the organization or these guys that
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  Speaker 3: are adults, and a lot of them are established veterans,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I just wanted to make sure I supported
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, obviously did my job too. But
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  Speaker 3: when it didn't go well right out of the shoot,
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  Speaker 3: I was doing that sec thing.
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  Speaker 2: If it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Over and old Charlie Condon is eventually going to get
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  Speaker 3: called up with the Rockies. I remember when he called
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  Speaker 3: and said he was going to Georgia instead of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: I threw myself on the couch and I didn't move
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  Speaker 3: for like two hours.
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  Speaker 2: And at this level.
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  Speaker 3: You have to adjust and become a human being when
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  Speaker 3: you take your jersey off, take advantage of your off days.
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  Speaker 3: I remember Dusty yelled at me about how I was
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  Speaker 3: spending my off days. So I've made an adjustment ever
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  Speaker 3: since I had a really fun one yesterday. So in
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  Speaker 3: a better place would be a summary of that long
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  Speaker 3: winded answer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard though, you know what you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: say how I would say, how I would say And
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  Speaker 1: it seems cliche, and Susan got cliche answers from us
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  Speaker 1: all the time, but it is what it is. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: there's one hundred and sixty two games. You can't win
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  Speaker 1: them all. You know you're gonna be one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixty to two and zero.
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  Speaker 4: There is that thought process. It can be taken too far.
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  Speaker 1: And I can tell you from what I've seen over
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  Speaker 1: the last you know, one hundred and twenty games, or
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  Speaker 1: four or five months, whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that growth in you, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that where you're starting to me. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to tell you what You're on the right path,
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  Speaker 1: where you're coming out of that shell, where you're not
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  Speaker 1: making excuses for the guys. I know what you did early.
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  Speaker 1: It's great to protect you're a manager. You do what
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  Speaker 1: you got to do. But now, like what you said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: that when people say growing pains, you said, don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be you know, it doesn't have to be.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't to be like that.
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  Speaker 1: Like you are starting to push back a little bit
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  Speaker 1: on the guys, which you should, because they are grown men.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, they make a lot of money and
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  Speaker 1: they're going out there and they're grinding. But we're not
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  Speaker 1: going to be complacent. We can't be okay with what
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  Speaker 1: we got going right now. So I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: that I've seen that growth in you and I appreciate it,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure you don't listen.
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  Speaker 1: You don't probably read a lot, but one of the
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  Speaker 1: things I said is I need to see you get
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  Speaker 1: thrown out about five more times, but I need to
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  Speaker 1: see like good snaps, like I want you in the
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  Speaker 1: like I said, he's do it like he's got to
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  Speaker 1: do with these umpires, like get thrown out, man, get
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  Speaker 1: in there, grill like snap on them. Get We used
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  Speaker 1: to grade Boche's tosses like that was a freaking eight.
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  Speaker 4: You better clearly like.
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  Speaker 1: Get out there, you know, like I need to see you, know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see that from you because I think
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  Speaker 1: it's in there and I think that that fire that
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  Speaker 1: you had when we did see you in the sec
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  Speaker 1: when we did see you at Tennessee. When you're snapping,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay to have that, and I think that you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're feeling your way through that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But what has actually been what do you think has
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  Speaker 1: been easier than expected?
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  Speaker 4: Though this year?
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  Speaker 2: Man not a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: Would be the first name I think, to be honest
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  Speaker 3: with you. You know, when I got my theories and
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  Speaker 3: I just throw them out to Susan and the media
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  Speaker 3: about the difference between there and here. But just dealing
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  Speaker 3: with people, whether it's the front office, ownership, former players
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  Speaker 3: like I mean, Pablo Santoval's respect level for me is
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  Speaker 3: the most comical thing of all time. I mean, hit
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  Speaker 3: three homers off off Erlander and I could barely put
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  Speaker 3: the ball in play. But the people in the city too. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: there's you know, comment here and there. You hear when
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  Speaker 3: you're at home, you know if it's not going well,
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  Speaker 3: and to me, that's justified to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: But just dealing with the people has been some mesaged.
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  Speaker 7: Tony I have a follow up question for you from
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  Speaker 7: your from your first answer, how did you spend your
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  Speaker 7: off day?
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  Speaker 3: I just went to LA with some buddies and one
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  Speaker 3: of our better friends that had moved south to Palm
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  Speaker 3: Springs drove up and we went to a concert, didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've got injury.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff going on, so kind of took a little time
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  Speaker 3: to try and get an assessment on all that.
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  Speaker 2: And you try and do the lineup the day before, but.
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  Speaker 3: Just try to be lazy, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 3: and then hooking up with that crew and telling some
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  Speaker 3: old stories was a lot of fun. And I tell you,
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  Speaker 3: we did make one comment one of my best friend's wives.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, man, at least you don't have to check
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  Speaker 3: your phone every five minutes while we're hanging out anymore
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  Speaker 3: to see if teenagers are texting you or you got
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  Speaker 3: to call somebody or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a different kind of grind.
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely a grind, But like I said, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's taught me to be a little bit more of
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  Speaker 3: a person, not just kind of a robot.
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  Speaker 2: Well I do.
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  Speaker 7: I also, Jeremy's right, I'm going to ask the baseball stuff.
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  Speaker 7: But one of the interesting things here at post trade
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  Speaker 7: deadline is how do you look at this last two
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  Speaker 7: months I guess six weeks now when you've mentioned winning
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  Speaker 7: is still very important. Of course the wins and losses
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  Speaker 7: are important, but you've also got a factor in some
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  Speaker 7: development because you've got a lot of young players, which
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  Speaker 7: seems like a right in your wheelhouse, and also sorting
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  Speaker 7: through your various options as you look at next year's roster.
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  Speaker 7: How do you how are you looking at finding that
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  Speaker 7: balance with all of those things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a little bit of it as always is,
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  Speaker 3: and again at the end of the day, I've got
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  Speaker 3: to make a call or put pen to paper and
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  Speaker 3: things like that. But I've always enjoyed group discussions and debates.
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  Speaker 3: So part of it is the group getting together and
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  Speaker 3: mapping out to this point, who does everybody want to see?
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  Speaker 3: And then how are we going to balance it out?
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  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, early on it was just
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  Speaker 3: kind of these are our guys and they're out there.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're going to go from one extreme to
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  Speaker 3: the other and kind of map out ahead of time,
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  Speaker 3: just this guy's going to get sixty percent of the games,
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  Speaker 3: this and that, So I think it'll it'll be a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of an organizational challenge, but it'll be a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fun as far as being organized.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's extra time before the game and after the game,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe even on an off day checking on a
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  Speaker 3: guy and reminding them this or that because he is
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  Speaker 3: a younger player and needs to learn quicker. But when
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  Speaker 3: the game starts, it needs to be better baseball and
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  Speaker 3: it'll probably come out of me. So Jeremy will be on.
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  Speaker 2: An umpire, but it'll be on somebody.
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  Speaker 3: There's been a lot of there's been a lot of extra,
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  Speaker 3: little extra stories this year, and you got to write
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  Speaker 3: about stuff, and there's it's fun to debate, but at
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  Speaker 3: the core of everything is we just have to play
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  Speaker 3: better baseball. There's not a guy that's gonna step on
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  Speaker 3: the field for us tonight that that can't catch a
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  Speaker 3: baseball or throw strikes or compete in the box. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, if you can do it once too, it
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  Speaker 3: means you can do it again. So we've just got
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  Speaker 3: to execute better. And I think the coaches have slowly
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  Speaker 3: started to learn each other better and maybe how to
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  Speaker 3: communicate with some of the players and then eventually us
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  Speaker 3: working as a group together, because it isn't just on
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  Speaker 3: the players, but they are the ones out there.
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  Speaker 2: We just have to play better baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Right, You got to play better baseball, and you got
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get the veterans to be able
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  Speaker 1: to step in and be leaders too. Right, Yeah, not
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  Speaker 1: only do we gotta play better baseball, I need you
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  Speaker 1: guys to go out there and lead show these young
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  Speaker 1: guys what it takes to prepare for a major league
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  Speaker 1: baseball game. This is the big leagues. This is like,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't like we're not developing. We can always get better,
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  Speaker 1: but this isn't the minor leagues. We called it semi
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  Speaker 1: pro ball down there, right, It's not semi pro. This
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  Speaker 1: is pro ball, and there's an expectation at this level.
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  Speaker 1: And so for you going out there and managing that
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  Speaker 1: and having that that thought processes is to me, is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a game changer because these kids need
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  Speaker 1: to know that. But managing veterans is not the same.
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  Speaker 1: It's very, very tough to do. What have you seen
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  Speaker 1: when you got college kids that you have been that
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  Speaker 1: you've been managing, versus now.
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  Speaker 4: You did skip it. It's it's you can't not ignore.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody talks about it, Well, he went from college to
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  Speaker 1: the big leagues, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: Great, But what does managing veterans?
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  Speaker 1: How does how? How did that feel? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: got to be something a little different than what you expected.
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  Speaker 1: How has that been this year for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been different because I think.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people, a lot of people thinking I've
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  Speaker 3: stepped back too much. But to be honest with you
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  Speaker 3: and talk with Buster and the guys in the offseason,
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  Speaker 3: like that's how I've always been. I've been a big
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  Speaker 3: believer of freshman year to sophomore year to junior year.
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  Speaker 3: You get coached different, and the whole goal is to
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  Speaker 3: build a player that is a junior draft guy or
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  Speaker 3: a senior. You're coached in a way that you can
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  Speaker 3: coach yourself on the field, and you become a coach.
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  Speaker 3: You become a basically like Drew Gilbert was so good
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  Speaker 3: at being another voice, basically repeating things that we would
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  Speaker 3: say in a meeting, then repeating him in the locker room,
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  Speaker 3: and he became like an additional coach.
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  Speaker 2: The difference is.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying we were geniuses or knocking anybody,
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  Speaker 3: But we had that time beforehand to build that foundation.
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  Speaker 3: And then when you get a guy like Gavin Keelan
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  Speaker 3: who comes from a great program at Louisville, he's kind
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  Speaker 3: of got that foundation he had there. We meet with him,
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  Speaker 3: we talk about the changes, and then we have a
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  Speaker 3: whole semester in a half. Even just having Gavin for
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  Speaker 3: one year, we still got a semester and a half
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  Speaker 3: to build that foundation of like, this is what we're
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  Speaker 3: looking for, this is what works, not this doesn't work here,
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  Speaker 3: and instead here it's just come and you know, some
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  Speaker 3: of these guys have had an insane amount of success,
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  Speaker 3: so to come in guns blazing didn't make a whole
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  Speaker 3: lot of sense to me. But you don't have that
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Boats helped me out as a veteran player.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Him and I would tow a line a few times
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: because I get weird a few times and I expected
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: certain scenarios. But you know, I remember getting after him
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: and he looked at me and he said, Hey, here's
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the deal. My door is always open to everybody, veterans, rookies, etc.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have different conversations with you as a veteran
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: as I might have with some of the younger guys. However,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: you can ask me any question you want, but if
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: you don't want the answer, don't ask it. Because I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: would get on him about not pitching me in certain scenarios.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I wanted to pitch right, So I'm like, I did
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: not him, and I did not agree. Sometimes when I
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: did not go into the ballgame and he said, well,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: if you don't want you want the answer because you
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: asked a question, I said, yeah. He's like, your feelings
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: don't matter to me. He's like, I'm trying to win
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: a ball game here, and that to me is a
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: huge thing for a veteran to hear your feelings do
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: not bother me. So I can pull you out of
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: a game like you did the other day with Rupe.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Great, I know you want in the game.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I love it. I freaking love it. That's your feeling. Great,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I gotta try to win a ball game. I'm making
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: the decision, you know. So those are kind of things
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: that for me, a manager leads well in when they're
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: not afraid to look at veterans and say feelings do
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: not matter.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to win a ballgame.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I hear you, you're coming out or maybe you'll talk
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: me into it, but I make the final call. And
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: man Boach kind of put me in my place a
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: little bit there and didn't let me influence too much
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: of it. And I think that's where I fell back into,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: like really choosing to let him lead, you know.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: So that's a big deal for me. So those are
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: kind of things I think veterans need to know.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and something I think as a as a coaching group,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: starting with me, it's gotten better with some individuals. Looking
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: back on it started off too slow in that category,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: but still trying to break down that barrier of you know,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you pitched like a guy that wasn't afraid to go
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: into the manager's office. And I'm not saying I don't
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: have guys that do that, but I don't, and I
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: don't know how other people were. It's been awesome to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: get to know Boach and Dusty, but I still think
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: the manager label just comes with this list of stereotypes.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: But we're all different, and I'm all for somebody like
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I love the roop thing, and you know, me and
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Webby had our you know, when he stayed in that
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Cubs game, it was probably more interesting than everybody realized.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: But we haven't had a lot of conflict. I mean,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the Chapman Schmidty thing is maybe the only thing that
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the public knows. And then, you know, I tried to
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: blow it up and say, there's only been two other times,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: you know, anyone that has said anything unfriendly, And next thing,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: you know, we had three incidents in the locker room
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: or whatever.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: But we just haven't had conflict. And I told the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: player the other day, well, yeah, it was ruper and
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I came in here, we sat.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: We always talk after his outings, and I feel like
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I'm maybe as close with him as anybody.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And we meet even if it's fake. You know.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I remember when Pat Murphy was at Arizona State, they
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: faked a fight on the field during pregame in and out.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: They ended up losing the game, and I don't know how.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Smart it was. Murphy is definitely smart, but for that team,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: it didn't work. But we just haven't had that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: And the one thing I said to Wash the other
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: day when we were talking about a debate with a player,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: was you can't fight with a stranger the way you
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: would with your brother or your sister. And it's because
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: you care and there's feelings, and I think there just
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: needs to be more of that. People are so invested
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: that they don't like when the first basement didn't catch
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the ball and they let them know. Those two guys
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: are as close as can be. But that's a moment
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: that maybe hasn't been replicated enough this year. Not that
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: we want strife and stuff like that, but you just
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: want people that are all in.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, I have one quick last one for you
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: before we let you go. I think Jeremy probably wants
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: to finish up with somebody too. But one of the
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: things that's been really fun this last month and a half,
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: two months maybe is the increased emphasis on Stanley Basis,
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: base running, pushing the action, even some bunting, maybe a
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: little bit of hit and run here and there. How
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: are you seeing that aspect and what kind of difference
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: might it make for a team like this, especially a
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: young kid. You've had all these young outfielders bringing up
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Turner Hill today Jonah Cox's back seems like you have
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: even more opportunities.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it just seems to be in general,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: a young man's game. And I don't mean you have
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: to be below thirty five years old. It's just these
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: arms out of the bullpen are so good, and runs
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: can really be at a premium at times, so you
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: have to get active, and you've got to be athletic
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: on defense and offense. And there seems to be a
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: lot of personnel coming up, and the two guys you
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: mentioned are extremely athletic. That helps support what we want
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: to do. But I think what we did was we
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: just adjusted, and easy to argue for anyone out there
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: to say we adjusted too late. The flip side of
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: that coin, as you come in and you look at
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: the names on paper arise, you just let him hit
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and then Ramos not that he can't hit, but you
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: also kind of hope he hits another one in the water,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: which he's the only one that's ever done that. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: it just didn't work for us, and you knew it
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: was going to turn, and it did turn in May,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: and I really feel like since then we've played better baseball.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: It's just been we haven't got into the one run
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: games or close games. We can if you all want,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: but it's it's not going to work with the personnel
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: that's on the horizon. And then probably even just with
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: the personnel we had just to sit back and say,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: let's see if we can outswing you. So I think
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: it's been great, it's been fun. I appreciate you saying that,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: but I think in our eyes, we got to there
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: needs to be more.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: We got to build on it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: And sometimes you guys will pick something out that's dead on,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: but more times than not, when I'm in here for
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: the last for the ten minutes after the game, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: beat myself up over missed opportunities to do even more
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: So hopefully we can build on.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: It even better.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tony, and we know you got to go, man.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate you
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: jumping on with us. You got a lot of stuff
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that you got to kind of get prepared for and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: deal with and all that good stuff. But I just
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: want to tell you, man, thank you. I appreciate you
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: coming on. You didn't have to, and I've seen I've
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: seen your growth and I want to encourage you that way.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: So keep grinded, man. I think there's a lot of
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: things that you got put put into this year that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I think is going to help you be very successful
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in the future. You got some young kids coming up.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I think some young guys on your team. Now, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: think there's some talent coming and I know Buster is
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: trying to definitely try to get you in arsenal that
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you can get in there and slam the door on
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: some of these games. But man, and just enjoy your
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: final two months. Man, and get these guys grind and
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: run your kind of baseball how you want to run it,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and don't apologize for it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Man, you're doing great.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys are young and exciting, and I've been
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: amazed at how our fans have come out, especially compared
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: to places we've gone on the road. There is reason
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: to still come out and see these guys. And then
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: we need to reinforce that with we'll be on a mission.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It needs to be an improved end of the year
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: and then, like I said, we got to execute better.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: So the offseason will be one thousand percent put towards that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: But appreciate all the support and definitely appreciate you all.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Good. Thank you, I appreciate you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Take care