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Episode 61 Money in the Bank 2024 Review! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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Okay, here's how the story goes. So try and keep up, and
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I mean all the way, la, because up here is what everyone wants.
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Climb the ladder, grab the briefcase inside a contract you could cast in
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on any world champion at any time. And to get it, it's more
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than just a classic smashing graph. You gotta battle your way, fly your
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way, fib your way, and crash your way. Do anything your way
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past five of the superstars, because if you get this, then you might
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get one of these. And let me tell you, everyone wants one of
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those if somehow you retain that title at money in the bank. As long
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as you're champion, I'll never challenge for the world title again. But when
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I beat you, you leave the judgment day. But be careful because everyone
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will want a piece of you too. What sort of hell had been on
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leash by solo in the blood high So stay sharp, stay focused, because
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one wrong staff and it's a one way ticket to Oh my god, the
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thing off the charts. Make it one of it. Tonight our superstars turned
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their eyes to the sky and say moment which will change lives forever. Whoever
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said money isn't everything never had the money got my bet from London, Yeah
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yeah, and a hanging places that you can't go, got foody, you
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got spooky? Eat at a trickle that's a nice sonny conna eat it grows
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bip perturricular like killo. Well they try to store me. I have better
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and now Prime Hydration and Weekly American Vodka Present w w E Money in the
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bank. You are looking why in the Scotia Bank arena jam packed and sold
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out tonight nineteen thousand, eight hundred and fifty eight w W fans on hand
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for money is wrag he. This is WWE and CW alumni theok blue meaning.
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And you're listening to PCW. The question is, oh, you let
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me talk to I will give you a show like you have never recovered seen
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the portal? Why because I can't. What do you guys want to talk
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about? Me? Pat? The colored red in the world with a black
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and white either of world. Yeah, n there's no track. What's that
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bigga bad? You gotta bigga bad? And I thought, whoa right there?
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You know to back the red cop back that one bad? Oh,
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ladies and gentle the boys and girls tall just welcome back to another episode of
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pc W podcast. Championship Wrestling. I am your host, Wayne al Sudden,
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a semi dried chicken, and we are going to review money in the
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Bank. But first I want to put a disclaimer out there. It is
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hot as fuck, as hot as balls out there. It is real feel
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like ninety nine here on the East Coast. So I'm pretty sure most people
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listening to this can agree and relate with the heat wave that's going on.
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So with that said, our sponsor tonight is the air conditioner in the background.
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Room tone here, please, yeah, so get used to that.
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I've rarely ever try to do episodes with air conditioners. I know it's annoying.
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I know it's just a pain, and you know what, I can't
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help it. It is hot. So with that said, let me bring
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in the rest of the crew. Here we go, Here we go,
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Hey Dre, welcome back, bud Yo Yo. What did do PCW crew?
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How are you staying cool in this by staying indoors? Because I have
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a job with an office. Lucky, very lucky. I don't have to
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go outside too often unless it's to go get like a customer's car or something.
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Yeah that's nice. Yeah, I work outside, so when I get
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a chance, any shadows, any shade I can find, That's where I
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try to hide. Uh, it's it was a prival today. And it's
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the humidity too, middy. That's the real kille hair on the East Coast
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is the humidity. But h let's see how this guy is doing. Let's
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bring him on in. Say his name, man, he appears. I
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believe in Joe here. I believe in Joe Henry Lord London and Paris and
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Tokyo, America, Scotland and Canada and Mexico. They say, I believe
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in Joe here. I believe in Joe Henry. Heeds me because I have
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secral air condition. I was wondering how long we were going to get,
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how far in the show we were going to get before we got a Joe
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Hendry reference. When he said that today, I was like, Okay,
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that's fucking perfect. I'm like, I don't know who sweet yeah he is.
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I don't know who Joe Henry is, but guess what. I am
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intrigued as fuck, and that dude tray that that theme music is catchy,
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right it is. I can't even fart like it ain't. But yeah,
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and he's doing this gimmick. For several years as far as I know,
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and like, just in the last couple of months, it's just from like
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and then the last couple of weeks being on XT took it to another level,
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you know, meme culture found it and now it's to the moon.
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Yeah, I mean I remember, I remember them. I remember because I
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don't watch the NXT, but I kind of read about it a little bit.
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I remember them saying, like I think they're making Joe Henry references,
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and I remember, like, who the fuck is Joe Henry? Yeah that's
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you see and then you believe Yeah, yeah, dude, Like that's been
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the past, people say, who the fuck is Joe Hendry? And like
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people some people have been asked me, like do you know Joe Henry?
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Like no, I fucking don't. I've never heard of this guy, but
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apparently he's coming to NXT. Like I'm fucking intrigued, and like, honestly,
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tonight was the first time I've heard this theme, and I was like,
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damn, I kind of want to just like play the whole song.
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It's catchy as fuck, and yeah and like and and normally I keep an
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interesting thirty seconds for us, right, uh so YouTube doesn't get me,
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but I was like, damn this one, I'm gonna let it ride for
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like forty seconds because then it hits that guitar riff, I'm like, oh
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shit, oh shit. They Yeah. I knew. I knew there was
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something to him because he popped up on NXT a few weeks back when they
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did the Yeah Battle Royal to determine uh Trick Williams number one contender. Yeah,
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and he came over from TNA and and as soon as his music hit,
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the crowd just popped huge for him, like bigger than they did for
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most of the NXT people. And I was like, Okay, who the
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hell is this dude? And then obviously he talked his talk, jumped in
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the ring, got jumped by NXT people and immediately thrown out, and the
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fans were pissed about it. And I was like, Okay, there must
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be something about this dude. I don't know who the hell he is,
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but he got a following. So that was my introduction to Joe Hendry.
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Yeah, dude, I'm completely intrigued by this Joe Hendry fella, and I
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will be keeping an eye out, uh running wild. Yeah. But hey,
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guys, uh what else I want to talk about. Oh, I
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was looking like at tickets, I was looking down the roads. We were
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watching raw and I go to Andrew, like, when do you think they're
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gonna be coming back to, like, you know, Philly. I knew
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it wasn't gonna be for a while because I mean they just swept it with
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WrestleMania and I know that's like that was in April. But time flies.
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So I was like, when are they returning? Maybe I'll look in to
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buy some tickets, and really nothing till November. Uh, they're all the
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way, it's booked all the way to November sixth, sixth, and yeah,
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everything's out of the country for the most part. Yeah, there's actually
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well for one at least, they're coming back to fucking Philly. I still
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don't know when they coming back to the seven five to seven. Yeah,
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it's been a year, almost a year since because it was what September last
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year when they were at Norfolk. But apparently there's a report that WW is
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gonna start scaling back some of their live shows, like the live house shows.
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Yeah, so I don't know if they're doing that to try to drive
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up demand for the product. More so they can try to get more money
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out of it or what. But yeah, I think it's some of the
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days of them doing luck like you know, Raw and SmackDown and then like
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you know, another three or more house shows in between. Those days might
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be starting to go away. It might be Raw SmackDown and maybe one,
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maybe two house shows a week in between, if that a lighter schedule.
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Just like I'm just looking, I'm on their page now. Uh, just
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roughly, they're gonna be going to They got the batch of Berlin, so
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they'll be going through Germany in August towards the end of August. Then they're
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back in the stage for a while. Yeah, what's that. They're going
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to Japan, aren't that? Yeah? Yeah, and then then they're gonna
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be everybody Logan. Yeah, they're gonna be in Liverpool, England for a
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while and in the beginning of October. Then they got Crown Jewel in November.
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Then they're gonna be in Ireland, England beginning of November. Here.
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Uh, that's as far as I can see. But yeah, Japan,
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they just got announced recently. Uh, yeah, they gonna be Yeah,
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anyway, let's talk about that Logan Paul and not who's I knew one day
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that him being a WW superstar like that would bite him on the ass.
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Eventually that was gonna catch up to him. I was like, man,
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they go on tour, I don't think they're gonna let your back over there,
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man, like, especially being especially you being in the United States champion,
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Like, they're definitely not gonna let you over there, like, so
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I shouldn't hell they want to whoop his ass. Ain't got nothing to do
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with WWE or that title logan, Paul himself just being an ass yeh yeh
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uh. Yeah. And for people who don't really know, like I know,
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it's been like a long time since I read into it, but I
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would just google it and look into it, Like there's probably like a whole
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YouTube episode, uh documentary probably about the ship that he did, the disrespect
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that he's shown over there, so uh, you know, time has passed
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but still doesn't change what he did or said. Yeah, he was younger,
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more immature, probably did it for clicks, but I bet right now
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he's probably kicking himself nass because for business reasons it looks fucking bad. Yep,
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Japan don't give a fuck about how long that's just been yeah pretty much
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said it's on sight. Yeah, and that's what's crazy about this this type
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of job. It's like, man, this job's worldwide, so you better
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make your peace for fucking people because you're gonna be traveling the world. And
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if you're a WW superstar, well, uh you know. Part of the
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reason it took so long for us to get Jacob Battoo is because he's got
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a criminal record. Yeah, so he had had issues going anywhere. I
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did like, how this on that into Canada thinks he's too dangerous. We
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had triple h had to make a special special deal to get him in the
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country. I like, yeah, it's fun that into a little storyline,
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which is pretty funny, but no, it's because he's a felon. Uh
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So, Doyle I wanted to bring up to you. I was talking to
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Dre about it off air, but and actually talk to the peeps here listening.
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So we were kind of thinking of well. I was also kicking on
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the idea of maybe when you know, shit gets a little slow over review,
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maybe an old movie that has a WWE wrestler in it and uh me
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Andre were talking about several movies going through lists. We were looking at different
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websites have lists. We're not looking for cameos. Maybe we'll mentioned cameo ones,
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but we're looking for ones where like the wrestler spends more than like,
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I don't know, more than their seconds in the film. So, you
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know, I don't really think we should review Spider Man two because you know,
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Macho Man's in it for a couple of minutes. But like the movie
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The Longest Yard that basically is this full of rest, you know, I
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was thinking of the Princess Briane has Andre the Giant in it. The whole
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Cogan has on a handful of god awful movies we can review, Oh yeah,
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a handful. So, but he's in Rocky three, and you wouldn't
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count Rocky three, I know, although mister t is technically a w W
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Hall of Famer and he's throughout the movie, right, Yeah, so there's
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a little spotty there, but yeah, well we can even that was me,
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we can review. Yeah, I was on the website looking at these
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movies that were listed, but yeah, I just maybe think of it is
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I just bought, uh, they Live on Voodoo and it's it's a movie
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I've heard lots of. But I haven't got a chance to watch it,
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so I thought either. So yeah, so I thought that would be a
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good movie for us to uh review. Uh and then maybe you know,
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listen, these movies are not top tier. We're not talking about you know,
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it's pretty good, yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, but we're
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not We're not talking about like a billion billion dollar movies. You have to
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understand, especially in the earlier years. People, Yeah, I think they
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lived gonna be a S S level S tier for a wrestler movie. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's gonna be all down on hell from there. Yeah,
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and hey, it's loose rated R. So our first film here we started
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to rad R. But yeah, I think maybe hell, maybe we'll we'll
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get around to watching it, and then we'll cut an episode for it,
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uh whatever, because we'd like to review films. I mean, I think
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that's kind of what brought us to this podcast and how a lot of us
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met through uh pop culture leftovers and and and through other forms of you know,
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other shows. So I was like, damn, like, what a
18:32
way to maybe step this up, and like, let's talk about all these
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shitty wrestling movies and then you're gett w W films and holy crap. If
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if it's like, you know, what is that? That's that? What's
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that that show that these three guys sit in front of the movie theater,
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that's it. That's what I was thinking, either tearing apart a movie or
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praising it. You know, so we probably did more terran But anyway,
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that aside, I guess let's let's get into this this pay per view here,
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Drey, we're going we're in Ontario, Canada for Money in the Bank
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attendants nineteen fifty eight people. Yeah, not a bad crowd, no,
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no, not a back very loud crowd, very loud crowd. Uh,
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definitely not as loud as we've had in the past few months. I wouldn't
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say this particular crowd anyway really stuck out. But dude, no, I
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mean you're gonna be hard pressed to find crowds that will measure up to We'll
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be got in France. Like France kind of set the bar for crowds.
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You know, very few crowds are gonna match that. I don't even think
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any crowds are really worth trying to match that. Plus Canada, you know,
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Canada gets w WE frequently enough that they can I would say they take
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it for granted, but you know, they're probably closer to some hot US
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cities than they would be international or cities that don't see the product as often.
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Did you guys see what our theme music is for this one? Uh?
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I don't. I did not catch it. I thought the graphics package
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was cool, but I I didn't. I didn't really like the theme song.
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I just I don't know. Sometimes, like when you like listen to,
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like some of the lyrics of some of these like songs that they have
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for the paper views, and like, man, I can't believe like they
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allowed that, Like they're like they like they were cool with this one.
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You know, this song, this song we'll talk about like pedophiles and doing
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coke and and wet ass pussy and they're like, yeah, let's put it
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on a pay per view. I pretty much, you know, A don't
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really hate all the music today, you know, like yeah, it's yeah.
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I think Ruthless Aggression era was probably the last era of good like pay
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per view theme music. This one is tape. I guess if you feel
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like going back and listening to it, but it's not that click they like
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the ones back in the day. I mean, hell, w W the
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freaking pay per view themes and stuff. That's how I discovered Evanescence. Oh
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dude, so many good theme songs for discovered. I forgot what pay per
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view it was they used that, Uh bring Me Life was the song for
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that pay per view There's No Way Out? Oh yeah, yeah, dude.
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The sound the sound bites with that type of music back then were so
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well, uh yeah, I believe it or not. You know, they
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had tons of fun. Biscuit got kid rock, saliva trap. Uh trying
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to think drowning Pool was restating eighteen Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I used to have oh yeah, here we go, money, money in
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the bank from over the years different. I had like sound bites because I
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was using them for for bumpers. What's this one? This one's you gotta
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get back show? Hot games? You know what's all about the cats?
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Say about the global Baptiss stacked them days. You guys remember that one,
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Yep, that was getting terrible? No, I don't remember it. That
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was terrible. I don't remember it either. Yeah, not bad. Better
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than this this? This? Uh this years, I mean I got one
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more, one more. This one is probably like the classic one that you
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guys probably remember wait, you guys, remember that one was probably the best
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one. That sounds like a rough draft of Shane McMahon's steam. Uh yeah,
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because actually I think they used it for Donald Trump's theme music when he
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came out, and then they use it for money in the bank. I
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believe it. Probably did. They recycled a lot of stuff like that,
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I know, yeah, because uh what ship ship, it comes the money,
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Here comes the money. Here we do talk the money. You ain't
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talking money, then you're talking man. If you don't, if you don't
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dance around in your room shuffling your feet around with a nice pair of socks
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on a hardwood floor to the song, then what are you doing with your
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life? If you're not blowing quad blown out quads? What are you doing
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in your life? How about all the Shane McMahon to a w rumors all
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of a sudden, That would be absurd if that happened, really absolutely?
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What? Right? Another absurd? Yeah? What? What what would he
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do? Would he be in there as a producer, a booker? Yeah?
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An on air talent like because he's a fucking horrible was good for?
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Was that the big stunt or whatever? He could do stunts and the worst
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far, the worst punch is you ever saw. Yeah, I really don't
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expect him to get physical in the ring. I mean this man, his
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last appearance, he blew squads or both one when the leap frog came down,
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legs don't work no more, then carry the you know, finish the
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show. But yeah, I would expect this from a business standpoint. I
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mean, like, it's not like AW needs to be bought by anybody.
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They're not. They're not struggling that hard that they're looking for a buyer or
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anything. But not when the owner's dad owns the freaking Jacksonville jack Jaguars.
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Hell, No, they're not struggling for money. Yeah, I mean they're
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just they're just struggling for fans. They're struggling for people to fill the seats.
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For viewership, for viewership, that's what they're struggling. I've been looking
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at their viewership networks and it's just not good. Not good. Sope.
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I mean, you know, we could have a whole we could have a
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whole podcast just about what's wrong with a w There's some things they do right.
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There's also plenty that they do wrong that's holding them back. But yeah,
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uh all right, Drey, I guess I've been sucking up the beginning
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of the show here for quite some time. Somebody's probably like listening, like
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Duayne or something, is like, when are they going to get to the
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fucking content? I want to know their opinion on money in the bank.
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Right. Well, you know, that's be a good, good analogy for
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the show itself, because it was eighteen minutes before the bell rag O the
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show started to the first bell. Ragon's eight minutes. Yeah, I wanted
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to talk about that. So the pay per view last the other night was
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three hours and twenty minutes, with a total of one hour and twenty four
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minutes of wrestling on it. That means more than half the show is entrances,
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video packages, talking and peacock ads Like what the fuck? Like I
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get I guess I like that. You know. Oh, we're tapering them
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down. We're not jam packing in the sixteen matches anymore. We're giving things
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time to cook. That's all well and good, but they're so fucking much
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downtime it's ridiculous. Like, if you're only gonna get me five matches,
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they better all be four star or higher matches, and they're not. You
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know, and if they're not gonna give me four more matches, give me
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a nine match. You know. Like I've talked about how like anything,
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anything outside of WrestleMania and maybe Somemmerslam doesn't even feel like a big It just
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feels like a slightly bigger Raw. You know. Uh, there's no there's
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no special feeling anymore. I hope, I hope they find a balance at
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some point. I know we're still tinkering with everything. Uh God, I
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hope they get that figured out, because I think they will, because when
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they have to go to Netflix, you know, they they're gonna have to
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They're not gonna have to be careful with how what they're run time, but
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it's gonna be a lot shorter. There's no way they're gonna be able to
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fill a legit three hours right quick. Yeah, which is I think the
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reason why I think people have speculated that Raw is gonna get cut down to
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two hours, because yeah, trying to fill out three straight hours of content
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no commercials, Yeah, it's gonna be difficult. So I think that's why
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people have speculated Raw will probably get slimmed, cut down to a two hour
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show and possibly smacked down as it when it goes to the USA, could
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be extended to three I still think that's a bit far fetched. But Raw,
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I'm almost certain Raw will be slimmed, will be cut down from three
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hours to two. But back to the old point about this show and all
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the filler more or less between the matches themselves. Yeah, I'm in one
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hundred percent agreement with them. They have to find some sort of middle ground
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in terms of phase. Where you're paying thirty bucks for a paper, you
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know, you're paying thirty dollars and you're only getting forty percent of the screen
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time is actual wrestling. I'm probably really pissed off Peacock or whatever. You
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know. Uh, just the age we live in, I guess. But
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yeah, it's in this new, this corporate age basically, especially now that
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they are owned by a large corporate entity like TKO Holdings, is they're part
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of that. Obviously, there's gonna be tons of corporate influence and a lot
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of what they do, even if it's not the n ring product itself,
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but everything else around it is gonna have that TKO influence. That's why they're
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doing all these international shows, getting that international money, all these sponsorships,
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you know, you're watching the Men's Money in the Bank ladder match and you
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got a fucking Homeland or with his arms out or on the ring because all
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these ads, like every freaking fifteen minutes, the home Lander popped up in
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the corner of the screen because sponsorships, so anywhere they can squeeze a buck,
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they're gonna They're pretty much doing it because they were trying to Mamie the
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monetary games. You got a big Prime logo in the in the ring.
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Yeah, turnbuckles had Prime logos. Multiple they're sponsored by multiple things called Prime
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that are totally different. Yeah. But yeah, like I said, they
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gotta find the middle ground. Yeah, it's good we're getting fewer matches and
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the matches getting more time to cook. But I think five is too few.
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You got too many that much time to cook. Yeah, you got
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too many people on the roster, you got too much talent, too money,
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storylines to be trying to limit it to just tell me only five of
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them can make the show. I think there's room for at least two more.
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Yeah, I think you can do six or seven matches. Yeah.
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Yeah, we're missing a lot of titles on this card, and it looks
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like they've been consistent with the five card match mhm. And I'm not saying
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I don't even necessarily think that every title should be on the line at every
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PLA. No, definitely not that, especially with all the titles that they
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have, but there are some that just completely fall by the wayside. Now,
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one thing I think they did do good in this going into this one
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was having that World Tag Team title match on SmackDown going into it because you
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know, and the fact that not that not only did they have the match,
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it was the main event of SmackDown, so it felt like a big
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deal when it happened, like this is gonna be the final match, it's
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the main event and we got blessed with a title change too, so it
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felt special. It felt like a big deal. So if if you're gonna,
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you know, do something with if every title is not gonna make it
32:43
to the pl which obviously isn't, then yeah, we should be getting some
32:45
stuff like that, Like, you know, your SmackDown should feature some sort
32:50
of major match as a lead in Raw, should close out it with some
32:53
sort of major match involving something that's not on the pl itself, you know,
32:59
or there's it's a tag title or the mid card title or you know,
33:02
Ankind of the US or something, so that way, these things don't
33:06
just fall by the wayside to get lost in the shuffle if they're not going
33:09
to be on the pl itself. Yeah, man, I absolutely agree.
33:22
But I mean, I mean, we're far away from those days of an
33:29
over I guess oversaturated card. I kind of hate when we had those.
33:35
That's when Vince was in in order. Just so many matches. I mean,
33:40
just think about us when we would review like an old ruthless Aggression pay
33:46
per view, I was thinking about how many like matches are on those cards
33:50
that we had to do. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, absolutely,
33:54
And I was just like, holy shit, Like and then we do these.
33:58
You know, I'm saying just five, but but the quality is better.
34:04
Yep. I will say a lot of those matches we talked to like,
34:07
yep, this is a throwaway, this was a waste, or this
34:08
match went off for like three minutes. Hey man, not allies matches for
34:14
throw away matches. Okay, some of them are meaning and maybe not the
34:19
catfight matches, but you know, Ashally, I was thinking about the Cad
34:23
and Murdock tag match. You maybe watch yeah, I guess ship. Yeah,
34:35
yeah, sure, I guess if you have to watch any match with
34:37
them in it, I guess that would be pretty foreign. Oh god,
34:43
oh god. All right, let's let's talk about some good wrestling here.
34:47
Yeah. He kicked off with the Men's money in the Bank ladder match with
34:54
Drew McIntyre and Drode Carmelo, Hayes, Jack gabled Uso and l A Night.
35:04
Okay, that was your opportunity, but you missed it all beating for
35:07
the Men's twenty in the Ladder twenty in the bang briefcase. Yeah, so
35:15
I'll let y'all go in on this match because I got home late and actually
35:20
missed this match itself. So y'all go ahead and go in and talk about
35:23
this match and how it went down. I thought this match was just okay,
35:30
maybe a little disappointing, even considering some of the names involved. I
35:37
think I think this is a kind of match where you're really gonna miss a
35:40
ricochet, you know, because a guy like that will do things that basically
35:45
nobody else can do. Ah And like I remember specifically that spot where he
35:52
did last I think it was last year, where he dove through the he
35:55
did a front flip through the ladder and and and nailed somebody on the outside.
36:01
And it's like I was like, in a couple of weeks from now,
36:05
I'm not gonna remember anything that happened in this match except that drew on
36:08
it. You know, like, there's nothing memorable happened, Nothing like super
36:13
innovative happened. I didn't think. I mean, there were some fun spots,
36:16
that gable spot where he fucking fell from the from the briefcase and landed
36:22
basically on his face. Yeahy and Rotty had a nice showing. He had
36:28
a couple of nice spots. He had that like reverse Spanish fly onto the
36:32
ladder. I forget I want to say it was Carmelo on you know.
36:38
I actually pointed out, like I hope this is a kind of match and
36:42
hopefully and Roddy would have a good showing and maybe he can parlay that into
36:45
something moving forward. I hope he can, because he's got fucking nothing going
36:51
on that you're talking about a hot crowd, but they didn't fucking he came
36:54
out to silence, so I hope they can get him going. Uh yeah,
37:02
I don't think I'm gonna remember anything from it. You know, and
37:07
and I know I always complain about how like we don't really need two of
37:12
these matches at the same card. I don't think like a male and a
37:15
female version every year all the time, you know, because you take a
37:19
match like this and and you know, spoiler alert, I thought the women's
37:22
match was way better. So when you have something to immediately compare it to,
37:28
it makes an okay match even down another notch just because there's a match
37:34
that was much better that happened immediately after it, you know, And it's
37:38
kind of like a perfect example of that. I think. Yeah, like
37:43
you said, eighteen minutes, we already talked about that. But yeah,
37:46
I mean I like the Drew one. I liked that he got screwed on
37:50
the cash in and not getting screwed on someone in the case. Yeah,
37:57
I like that there are that he did cash it in and we're only gonna
38:00
have one, uh one briefcase story moving forward, which is good, I
38:05
think, But we need to find we need to source these ladders somewhere else.
38:07
I think we still had at one point when Drew was climbing up,
38:12
we still had that wobbly leg like we saw wrestle Mania fucking leg on the
38:17
fucking ladders just buckling. I don't know where. I don't know where they're
38:21
getting these ladders, but they're gonna gonna get them somewhere else, I think.
38:24
So should they be getting stronger ladders or weaker ones because remember back in
38:29
the day, the ladders used to crumple like they wouldn't ship. Yeah,
38:31
I mean, I guess that's like the the issue, right, It's like
38:35
a catch twenty two. It's like, do you do you get good quality
38:37
ladders that can hold these guys? They'll fuck somebody up as as they land
38:43
on it. Oh yeah, do you get one that that takes a bend
38:46
you know that they can take a fall and you know, kind of break
38:50
easily for the wrestler, Because that's what you want with the tables too.
38:52
I mean, like you don't want a table, like you don't be that
38:57
guy like you see on on YouTube who will go like try to go through
39:00
a table, but that's a plastic table and he never goes through it.
39:04
It never happens. Oh that guy. Yeah, Yeah, we've seen guys
39:08
like that, like at the parking lot, like when you're when you're tailgating.
39:13
You know, he gets drunk and the I'm gonna put you through this
39:16
plastic table, Like, no, you're not, You're gonna hurt yourself.
39:22
Uh yeah, qualities lader. I mean I remember what they had a money
39:25
to make ladder Magic Big show, and they had like a really big ladder,
39:29
like a really ridiculously sized ladder. Because you kept breaking the regular ladders.
39:34
He would he would put his foot on it and he would break the
39:37
bottom step. Yeah. Back when their ladders were made out of like freaking
39:43
fiberboard or some ship. Yeah, it just painted gray aluminum really cheap.
39:47
I don't know what it was. Yeah, I think they had wooden ones
39:51
for a while, they were just painting silver, yeah, I think.
39:53
Yeah, those are the ones that used to like crumple like they weren't ship
39:57
Yeah. Yeah, somebody would get slammed through it. You could see like
40:00
the undercolor, under the underneath the grade. It's like, okay, that's
40:04
clearly not a metal ladders. I guess people saw through that too much.
40:08
They're like, okay, we need to at least step up to aluminum.
40:12
So yeah, the illuminum ones are stronger, but not strong enough. But
40:15
then again, you can't exactly go to freaking steal now, because if you're
40:20
compromising your wrestles and they're gonna get sucked up like fiberglass ladders during a match
40:25
like that. Can you imagine all the fiberglass splinters you fucking have? Oh
40:30
I'm crazy and just thinking about it. Think about an whole fiberglass ladder that
40:35
you left outside for the summer. Shit, I'm scratching just thinking about that.
40:39
How itching you're gonna get? That's like, that's like low budget,
40:44
like backyard wrestling, like door, my buddy's gonna bring the ladder. It
40:50
brings like a five fiberglass What the fuck? Is this a death match?
40:53
The fuck? Give me the wooden ladder any day over fucking fiberglass ladder.
41:01
How do we get here? Anyway? Doyle, you know, once drew
41:09
one, I kind of saw where this was gonna go the Restless pay per
41:14
view. I'm glad they did this match first. I kind of I think
41:19
we all predicted that this was gonna be the first match of the night.
41:21
It makes sense, right because of we're going forward here. The story going
41:25
forward can change throughout the night. I never thought it made sense to ever
41:30
put the briefcase matches at the end of the night, because we've seen in
41:36
the past that titles change hands from the briefcase before the paper brews. Even
41:43
over some guys and some girls. It's not just guys. Some girls blow
41:47
their loads too before the end of the night and cash in. So it's
41:52
just not guys who are blowing their load fast with the briefcase. So women
41:57
have done it too as much as the guys. Though. They said eighty
42:02
percent of people who cash in on their briefcase succeed eighty percent, and Drew
42:08
is not part of that, nor will he be because my favorite line from
42:14
sampunk is what will you not understand? As long as I'm here, you
42:19
will never be world champion? Well? Probably that, do you not understand?
42:23
Uh? I dude, I like this match. You know who stuck
42:28
out to me, Chad Gable, Man, Chad Gable stuck out to me
42:30
in this fucking match. Carmelo Hayes. You know, we were discussing how
42:37
we don't have a ricochet in this match. I think Carmelo Hayes kind of
42:39
filled that void, not as hard as ricochet would go, but it filled
42:46
that that slot in you know, that high flyer, that guy a little
42:50
bit smaller. I think and Draw did good. I mean, like you
42:53
said, he came out. He was kind of quiet for Andrada because since
42:59
he's been back, he hasn't really made any big moves. He really hasn't.
43:05
The fact that he was even in this match was great, Uh,
43:08
and he got to showcase some of his skills. So maybe here going forward,
43:12
people take him a little bit more serious. People who haven't seen Andrade
43:15
in the ring before and at w W ring. Uh, you know,
43:21
damn they They really had me thinking l A Night or j was gonna get
43:25
this, especially Jay towards of this match. Oh man, I was believing
43:30
it. I was like, it's it's yeating the bank. I'm like,
43:34
some of a bitch they're doing that. They're given the guy who's on the
43:38
the the poster, they're giving him the fucking title or the the briefcase.
43:44
But damn, that wasn't the case. I knew, uh, the some
43:47
spots once when Chad was hanging from that that that briefcase. We've seen that
43:52
in the past two like ladder matches, the famous Woman Divon hanging and Edge
43:59
ginting spearing them all off. I'm trying to think who else who we've seen
44:04
hung I think also from the briefcase, you know, tried grabbing it in
44:09
the past and and not succeed. Jeff Hardy I think has been one of
44:14
them two TLC Yeah about a briefcase. But yeah, but hanging, I
44:20
mean that's scary. Yeah, he was the Yeah, Jeff Hardy was the
44:22
original one hanging to get caught. Yeah, that's that's scary though, because
44:30
if you just land wrong on your leg I mean, lock your knee up
44:34
or something whatever. I mean, that's that's that's scary. Worse than that.
44:38
Hell, you you're dangling like that and you land wrong and you know,
44:42
you over rotate or something, it's a wrap for you, potentially ending
44:47
your career. You know. L A. Knight, he took a spill
44:52
outside the ring, you know, that was his last bump for the evening.
44:55
I thought, oh, man, if you land your knee wrong,
45:00
your hook your leg inside that ladder as you would fall flip over the ropes.
45:04
Yeah. Yeah, So, like some of these guys that you can
45:09
always tell, I feel like when this match is starting to wrap up,
45:14
because like, you know, would you say it was like eighteen minutes long
45:17
Doyle something like that. The match. Yeah, six, tell when it's
45:28
starting to wrap up, because then we'll get these really high spots where it's
45:31
like, okay, like this is totally gonna take this guy out. Like
45:36
once I saw Chad get like, you know, take that that that falls,
45:39
like that's a big spot. I was like, Okay, he's he's
45:42
done. Ellie and I got tossed. I'm like, okay, he's out.
45:45
Carmelo, Hayes and Andrade they put themselves out and I was like,
45:50
Okay, these these guys are done out of the match. So I'm like,
45:52
now I'm like really paying attention to Okay, who we got left?
45:55
I'm like, where's sree At? Where the hell's Shrew? You know?
46:00
And then fuck I yeah Drew? Uh when dre When when Jay Usso was
46:08
up there, I was fucking believing it, man, I really believe he
46:12
was so close. And then Drew like took the ladder, a smaller ladder
46:19
I've seen it done, throwing it up. Only a man like Drew could
46:22
take a ladder to throw it. You know. As the match started,
46:31
how much bigger Drew was than everybody else? Yeah, yeah, it was
46:37
striking, Yeah, Drew in this case, Drew was the big man in
46:42
this match, you know, because every every year they put a big man
46:45
of some kind in this match. Same thing with like when they do the
46:47
chamber matches. Uh, it's always good to throw a big man in there,
46:52
and in this case, Drew was the big man. Uh. Normally
46:55
the big man gets buried at the end, maybe by a pile of ladder
47:00
after a big spot. I've seen that happen a lot. That's where like
47:04
most of the latterers go. They burry Mark Henry or Big Show or Bronze
47:09
Strowan, they bury somebody big can take these guys out. Bronson reed.
47:19
So let me ask you guys something. I know we're gonna talk about the
47:23
women's later, but are we gonna have to go for the rest of the
47:29
year with the VAT logo on the briefcase? Not that I have a complete
47:35
issue with it. It's been sponsored. I get it, and the Boys
47:39
is a pretty hot show right now on Amazon. But I'm inclined to say
47:45
probably not, since one briefcase is out of play already and the other one
47:50
I expect to be pink and fluofy and in some form or fashion going forward.
47:58
Yeah, So that problem won't have the logo on it. Yeah,
48:02
maybe the Vault logo was just for tonight only. Yeah, I think I
48:07
posed that same question myself in the discord when I saw it during the women's
48:12
match. Maybe it's for one night only, but yeah, they do it.
48:15
It's a good point. One's already been using. Tiffany's already talked about
48:20
stylizing and accessorizing hers, So perhaps not it won't say VOT, but maybe
48:28
it'll be some other somebody else will pay for that sponsorship spot. Yeah,
48:32
take off Vault and put in like Dultch and Colebon or something. Yeah,
48:38
you know what, Like I said, once I saw Drew when this briefcase,
48:44
I was like, Okay, I know exactly where's this going, and
48:45
this man's gonna and you know, we were kind of discussing that with like,
48:50
oh, well, if Drew Wendsday's gonna you know what if he would
48:52
catch in on Damion, the guy who cashed it on him, Like,
48:54
wouldn't that be fucking funny? I wouldn't that be fucking funny? So like,
49:00
yeah, when I saw him get that freaecase, I was like,
49:02
son of a bitch, And I watched it the pay per view a day
49:07
later because I had a company party while this was happening, so, you
49:14
know, being honest, I was shit faced, sound like. It wasn't
49:17
near my phone. So it's like I was watching fireworks, I was swimming,
49:22
you know, I was having a good time, and I was like,
49:23
oh, man, tomorrow, when I wake up, I'm gonna watch
49:27
this pay per view. And I was like trying to avoid like my phone
49:30
all social media like because I was like, something's gonna happen that either I
49:37
was right or I was completely wrong about and I was like, I'm not
49:39
gonna find out till tomorrow. I don't want to know. So yeah,
49:44
when I saw Drew when I was like, ah, yes, the plans
49:46
are in motion. Payback is afoot. But good good opening match though,
49:53
I mean I'm money in the bank ladder match for an opening match for his
49:57
pay per view. That definitely got everybody fucking hyped. So that's not everybody
50:00
thinking for the rest of the night how this favor view was gonna end as
50:05
well. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know I had picked Jay
50:07
to win, and I would have liked to see Jay win, but you
50:10
know, in retrospect, Drew was the obvious choice probably to win the match,
50:16
given you know where everybody else is that character wise, which we discussed
50:22
in our preview episode, he's the one that you know that it made most
50:27
sense for him to win the briefcase. But before we transition, there was
50:35
a did you guys see the vat ad that they had the commercial? I
50:42
guess they have between the matches. Yeah, I didn't notice it. Pay
50:46
much attention that girl that plays the CEO. Yeah yeah, yeah, she
50:52
plays the CEO of International or the VOT company. Yeah, I'm just gonna
51:00
glitch it here real quick, or hold on was inserted here. Hello everyone,
51:07
I'm Ashley Barrett. Unless you've been under a rock or in Canada,
51:10
you know we're living in an American nightmare. But thankfully we have real men
51:14
and women in the ring tonight, wrestling for the soul of this great nation.
51:17
They may not fly at supersonic sperience or cut through metal with their heat
51:22
visions, but their superpower of pummeling people with ladders will be on full display.
51:27
Time to cash in, Patriots made the strongest hero win. Yeah.
51:39
I inserted that after post production, So, but yeah, there was that.
51:45
I thought I'd ad that because if you're like a big fan of the
51:47
boys, you're just like, oh shit, there, you're kind of inserting
51:52
some characters into this. I think that's pretty cool anyway, carry on.
52:00
So yeah, next match we got well Sammy z Ain defending his Intercontinental Championship
52:06
against bron Breaker, and Sammy z Ain was successful in his defense. He
52:12
wound up defeating bron Breaker by penfall clean too at that So, uh,
52:21
this match, it was a good match. I think it told. He
52:28
told a pretty simple and basic story. Bron Breaker was going in as the
52:31
as the beast, as the dominant one, as the overpowering one. Sammy's
52:36
ain't going in still considered the underdog despite being the champion itself, and bron
52:45
Breaker came up short due to an experience. I thought the match itself,
52:51
the match itself was good, and I don't think the storytelling it it was
52:57
the best only in a sense that given what the story was going into the
53:04
match and the narrative the way it played out, I didn't think quite nailed
53:10
it in terms of that. Like, bron Breaker did look good in the
53:15
match, and samyse Ain did do his job to make bron Breaker look like
53:17
a million bucks so I know some people were seemingly surprised that bron Breaker lost,
53:24
like they really thought bron was going to win because they, I guess
53:29
people were thinking that he's on this monster run and he's gonna get pushed straight
53:32
to the top. I never for a second thought bron was gonna win because
53:39
Sammy's Ain, because as I saw the story itself, Sammy's Ain was the
53:45
guy with the experience, and I figured Bron's inexperience was going to work against
53:51
him and cost him the match, which it kind of sort of did,
53:58
but I think they could have leaned into that aspect of the storytelling and the
54:01
match itself a little more. Essentially, what we got was just bron Breaker
54:06
was a beast and dominated Sami's Ain't for most of the match until he slipped
54:13
up kind of once and then Sammy caught him with a boot and then that
54:16
was it, which I that's the part I really did not like the most
54:21
was the fact all the suit was just one slip up, one Halluver kick
54:24
and that was enough to put bron Breaker down. After bron spent damn near
54:28
the entire match beating the living shit out of Sami's Ain loove. That finish
54:31
came a little too quick and a little too sudden for the least to be
54:38
convincing to me in terms of a storytelling aspect. But outside of that,
54:44
again, bron Breaker doesn't come out of this match looking any weaker. In
54:47
my opinion, I thought Sammy's ain did a great job making him, like
54:52
I said, look like a million bucks. He looked great in the match,
54:54
so I think he's still he's just as competitive now. I don't think
54:59
it's hurt just push in any way at all whatsoever. It just shows that,
55:04
you know, they're not gonna rock Lesnar him, or they're not gonna
55:07
Goldberg him. He's gonna have to do a little bit more work on his
55:12
way to the top, and Sammy, you know, comes out still champion.
55:17
I do appreciate that on Raw after this show, Sammy Zaying finally came
55:22
out and actually finally started talking like a champion instead of talking like you know,
55:30
an underdog, or talking like he still had to prove something, Like
55:32
he's finally owning the fact that yeah, I'm the fucking champion. I'm that
55:38
guy. Y'all got to come see me now. I appreciate that aspect of
55:43
it, and he did a little bit of that talking going into this match
55:45
le Bron too. So if this is the direction that Sammy goes in instead
55:52
of this dumbass after school special bullshit he was doing with Chad in him,
55:55
then maybe my disdain for Sammy's will diminish a bit. Doyle, what were
56:02
your thoughts? Yeah, this is another match that I just thought was okay.
56:08
But yeah, I mean went pretty much how I think we all thought
56:14
it would. You know, the young, young, dumb full of come
56:16
meathead, you know, versus the crafty veteran. The crafty veteran almost always
56:21
wins the first encounter in that scenario. You know, there's only but so
56:25
many plots to professional wrestling match, you know, and that's one of them.
56:30
That's a classic. You know. I bet you're on the first wrestling
56:35
card it had a match like that, you know. But I actually thought
56:42
I would have some interference from you know, all the seemingly hundreds of people
56:46
that are going after the Icy title right now, you know, Seamus and
56:50
Looping Kaiser and Bronson reed. But obviously that didn't happen. I thought it
56:54
was a good decision that it didn't happen. And it didn't overstay. It's
57:00
welcome. I think what was a little over thirteen minutes, so another couple
57:06
of minutes it would have been too long. Maybe could have lost a minute
57:09
or two, but it didn't overstay. It's welcome, So it's good.
57:15
But it never hit that second year, you know, it never It just
57:19
kind of was there. It never really ramped up, you know. And
57:23
I think one of the things that separates a good match and a great match
57:28
is finding that, you know, that extra something or whatever, and that
57:32
I don't think this match just didn't have it. It looks like Braun Breaker
57:39
isn't done with Sami though. After Raw, I don't know if we're gonna
57:45
get like some kind of multiman match for the IC title in SummerSlam. You
57:50
know, with all these players, Shamus, Ludwig, Bronson, Braun and
57:53
Bronson, let's go, let's throw Braun Strowman in there. Really give Michael
57:57
Cole a fucking uh. That would be a good way maybe to take the
58:07
title off of Sami without him losing. But again that's getting ahead of it.
58:12
Yeah, I just thought it was okay, you know, I I
58:17
thought I really thought that if any of the people from NXC that were gonna
58:22
gonna get called up and pushed. It was Braun. I thought, you
58:28
know, oh, well, this is where he'll get his inner Continental title.
58:30
Run right, this guy's since he's been here, this is he was,
58:36
This is right where he was heading since he came to the main Rockter.
58:39
He wanted to go right for the gold so h I you know,
58:44
but Sammy has he'd beat Gunter, he'd be He's had some pretty good defenses
58:52
with that title since he's gotten it since WrestleMania, so bron Breaker also be
59:00
yeah, uh oh yeah, I remember that. But I think they're leading
59:07
to a bigger story. Yeah, I guess everything again, everything's just leading
59:13
towards Summer Slam. Some of these pay per views are just leading to the
59:17
next one, you know, it's just leading to the bigger pay per view.
59:22
So I feel like they are building to maybe a big fatal four way
59:25
or a big defense matter for Sammy. They're gonna stack the odds against this
59:30
guy for this title. But broun Bron just needed to connect. He didn't
59:37
connect with one, but he just needed to connect one spear, I think
59:39
to put Sammy out, and he just couldn't do it. Sammy did make
59:45
him look good. Sammy was clearly the better wrestler. Clearly he was doing
59:52
some Samy was doing some flips and stuff and moves O I don't see him
59:55
occasionally do. But yeah, he made Brawn a lot big better. There
1:00:00
was a spot though, that bron saved him from breaking his damn neck when
1:00:05
he flipped off the side uh the guardrail. Damn. By the way,
1:00:12
I mean this, this is where it starts, where I start noticing money
1:00:17
in the botch because from here on out, we have some fucking botches throughout
1:00:22
the night. I I can only pick out so many. And then,
1:00:27
uh, you know, I log into our PCW Twitter and I just see
1:00:31
everyone's like, did you see this batch? This, this botch and this
1:00:36
botch and ship Uh, I guess it's more botching than I thought it was.
1:00:40
I am throwing that word around a lot. But and they don't have
1:00:44
any excuses this month. There's no excuses of loose ropes or a rope that
1:00:50
broke. I want to know the excuse this time. I just I feel
1:00:54
like it's that guy from the longest start, you know, just sorry,
1:00:58
I just hadop I had I think people are using that word botch a little
1:01:02
too loosely nowadays, though, everybody's so caught up and trying to see,
1:01:07
you know, try to see you know the mistakes. See, yeah,
1:01:13
they're just like, oh, that was a batch. Sometimes it's not an
1:01:15
actual botch. It could be a miscue or something, or somebody being slightly
1:01:22
out of position. But if they recover from it or they save it,
1:01:23
as was the case with you know, Bron catching uh Sammy's say, when
1:01:29
you try to flip off the guardrail, that's not really a botch exactly.
1:01:32
That was like he jumped off and you know, either Sammy didn't get as
1:01:37
much distance as he thought or Bron wasn't in the right position, but he
1:01:40
caught him and he saved him. Now, had he done it and like
1:01:45
fucking face planted him in the mat because he wasn't in the right position,
1:01:49
then you can call it a botch. But if you happen to save him,
1:01:52
then you know it's not really a botch. But you know, everybody
1:01:55
wants to feel like they you know, they had the keen eye like who,
1:02:00
what's all the thing? Like, okay, you know, hop your
1:02:04
ass up on a guard rail and do a flip you catch another human being
1:02:07
flipping on you, for sure we will talk about it in the World Heavyweight
1:02:12
title match. What a botch really is? Right? But yeah, this
1:02:16
definitely not. I mean, yeah, dude, like you, sometimes people
1:02:22
give ship to wrestlers for you know, like what we had, what we
1:02:28
had people giving ship Jade cargole about missing you know, that misstep that she
1:02:32
had on that rope. Yeah at last p ly completely ignoring aj styles doing
1:02:37
the same damn thing. Yeah, and yeah they did have issues with the
1:02:42
rope then, But I mean, come on, I mean, you do
1:02:49
half the ship that some of these professional wrestlers do, and you ain't gonna
1:02:52
fuck up. I mean, how many how many people listening done backyard wrestling
1:02:59
fucking hurt themselves to trying to do something that a professional wrestler has done.
1:03:02
I'm sure somebody's tombstone to front or two incorrectly pedigreet, somebody sweet chin music
1:03:08
to friend a little too hard, you know, try to try to hit
1:03:13
him in the face, and you know he hit him a little too hard.
1:03:16
Sorry, was a little stiff. Yeah, come on, man,
1:03:20
come on. Another thing to keep in mind, like when they're making a
1:03:23
Marvel movie or something, and they're someone in a big action sequence or whatever.
1:03:28
They're doing dozens, if not hundreds of takes, you know, and
1:03:32
and pro wrestlers get well. Back in the day when I used to tape
1:03:36
SmackDown, sometimes they got multiple takes, but by a large they got one
1:03:39
take and these things, you know, so it's gonna go wrong sometimes,
1:03:45
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. I will say my favorite spot of the
1:03:52
match was the nice little homage that uh bron Breaker did to his uncle Scottie
1:03:59
when you would depend on Sammy's ay and rolled off and started doing the push
1:04:02
ups. Now, granted, he need to work on his push up game
1:04:04
because that back was a little bend in it, but I thought that was
1:04:10
that was nice. Yeah, And I also appreciate bron Breaker bringing back to
1:04:14
Frankensteiner making irrelevant again because that was always It's always been one of my favorite
1:04:18
moves in all of wrestling. They're in a singing mood here to nice sounds
1:04:35
like y'all showed up to sing. That could be why you're here? Check
1:04:54
that, let me course correct. It sounded like y'all showed up to make
1:04:58
some noise. That is why you're here? Why am I here? Tonight,
1:05:15
I officially announced my retirement from the WWE. I hear a mixed opinion
1:05:45
out there, a lot of questions, maybe right, like, hey,
1:05:53
why here? And I want to talk about that for a second. I
1:05:57
want to talk about Toronto, matter of fact. I want to talk about
1:06:03
Canada. Matter of fact, I want to talk about Canadians. You see,
1:06:14
I've been doing this a while. I've been in WWE for over two
1:06:16
decades, and in that time, I have seen incredible waves of prosperity like
1:06:21
we got right now. WWE is the hottest ticket in town, no doubt,
1:06:31
and I've also seen tremendous hardship. And that's when no one knows your
1:06:38
name, nobody wants to be a friend, and only the most dedicated hardcore
1:06:45
fans stand by your side. So in all those years, one of the
1:06:56
most important, one of the most impressive things that I learned was whether the
1:07:02
WWE is hot or cold, Canadians always show up almost You need to be
1:07:30
making noise for yourself because all of you built this to what it is today,
1:07:35
which in my mind makes this right here the perfect place to say what
1:07:41
I gotta say. But why now? Right? Why now? Because it's
1:07:53
money in the bank, the ultimate symbol of opportunity, unity, and this
1:08:00
farewell, This farewell does not end tonight. It is filled with opportunity.
1:08:08
Everybody. Raw makes history next year when it moves to Netflix. I've never
1:08:17
been a part of Raw on Netflix. That is history. That is a
1:08:20
first, and I will be there. And along with that history making firsts,
1:08:30
we are gonna build so many unforgettable lasts. The twenty twenty five Royal
1:08:38
Rumba will be my last, The twenty twenty five Elimination Chamber will be my
1:08:47
last. And I'm here tonight to announce that in Las Vegas, WrestleMania twenty
1:08:58
twenty five will be the last WrestleMania I compete in. I know, I
1:09:10
know, I know. That's a lot to take in right Probably a lot
1:09:13
of questions out there, which is why I'm telling you right now, I
1:09:16
am going to kick off the press conference right after the show, and I
1:09:20
will be fielding any and all questions having to do with my retirement. You
1:09:26
are not gonna want to miss it. But in the vein of ultimate opportunity,
1:09:30
I want to take advantage of one right here, right now with everybody.
1:09:38
I want to say thank you, what an incredible gesture of kindness.
1:10:11
I want to say thank you. Thank you so much for letting me play
1:10:19
in the house that you built for so many years. Thank you so much
1:10:29
always for your voice because it's really loud, and you're honesty because it's beautifully
1:10:34
brutal. Most of all, thank you so much for allowing me to be
1:10:45
here with you tonight to let the whole world know that we are planning something
1:10:51
unforgettable, which also involves me returning to Toronto to kecksimass. So if you
1:11:04
are watching at home, or you are one of the insanely loud here in
1:11:10
Toronto, Canada, or if you're a WWE superstar, if you want some,
1:11:20
hurry up and come get some comes. The last time is now?
1:11:31
You guys wanna talk about the next segment? Are are you okay to talk
1:11:39
about it? I knew that's what I was tagged in. I knew,
1:11:47
I knew. Man, I mean, come ony, okay? Can I
1:11:54
take the wheel for this one? The violins man? The You know what,
1:12:00
You can play any other wrestler's theme music slow, but if you played
1:12:04
John Cena's music slow with the violin, goddamn make it cry. So they
1:12:12
have trist Stratus come out. By the way, trist Stratus last minute kind
1:12:16
of named host of the show. She she's an Ontario, Kanada girl,
1:12:19
so it makes sense, right, awesome, cool, But I thought she
1:12:25
would have been more involved in this fucking show. She was only involved in
1:12:28
like two segments, this one and one involving Tiffany Stratton. So I might
1:12:34
be planning some seeds. No, I know, I know, I think
1:12:39
that's what it might be. You're absolutely right, Doyle, planning some seeds
1:12:43
because I don't think Trish is done. Trish is still Trician, can still
1:12:46
go. She wants to. I don't think she's done done. She says
1:12:49
she's you know, she she really retired. She's kind of No, she's
1:12:54
never said she's retired. She maybe semi retired, but no, she's always
1:12:59
acknowledged that. Yeah, her, her and both leda state. They quote
1:13:02
unquote stay ready so they don't have to get ready. Yeah, they're out
1:13:05
there and they're tiny whities bouncing on the trampoline with some dumbbells. No,
1:13:12
nobody in a stamp. I'm not booked. Okay, we'll stop talking now,
1:13:24
all right. So Trish status comes out, does a little talking talks
1:13:29
about who she be if they're in Ontario, Canada, and blah blah blah
1:13:34
blah blah blah blah. But what was it getting to? What are we
1:13:38
getting to? What is this transition between matches? What is this about?
1:13:43
Fish? You're not out here to tell us about the record breaking the Attendants
1:13:46
because I don't think it was a record breaking the Attendants for anything, So
1:13:50
what is it? God damn, if John's seen his music don't hit And
1:13:57
I'm like, Okay, where are we going this? And I had no
1:14:00
idea, man, no idea. Oh that news had broke that he was
1:14:05
in Toronto, but they didn't. There was nothing about why or wouldn't appear
1:14:10
on the It's like, I think I've heard him mention whispers about his retirement,
1:14:15
and I'm thinking, okay, maybe like in a year or so,
1:14:21
right, I'm thinking a year or so, two years, you know,
1:14:25
That's what I'm thinking, two or more. I guess I'm just selfish like
1:14:28
that, right, And I try to with those kind of things. You
1:14:31
hear those rumors and you kind of put them in the back of your head,
1:14:33
like, nah, they're not true, they're not that's not happened.
1:14:36
He's not retiring, right, He's not retiring anytime soon. But yeah,
1:14:44
man, he he announces that he's going to retire. And I've been watching
1:14:49
John Cena since two thousand and two. Like I got the first John Cena
1:14:55
shirt, the word life. This is before basic thugonomics. This is the
1:15:00
doctor of thug anomics, you know, like I got, I got the
1:15:03
old I was going through my shirts the other day and I was like,
1:15:06
like, damn, I got a lot of JOHNSONA shirts. Looked like a
1:15:10
bowl of fruity pebbles up in my closet. Uh damn. Yeah, he's
1:15:15
going. He announced he will be at the Royal Rumble. So you're getting
1:15:19
JOHNSONA in twenty twenty five at the Royal Rumble. I would love to see
1:15:25
him come in number one, just to see him mix it up with all
1:15:29
the new talent, all the talent that we don't get to see him mixed
1:15:31
up with, you know that we probably won't see matches with like maybe La
1:15:36
Knight, Camaria Hayes, you know, and just so much new talent that
1:15:43
Johnston will never get to mix around with. And the Rumble, well,
1:15:45
he said, he said he's gonna do thirty or forty dates. Now,
1:15:48
they won't all be matches, but I think I think we're gonna get a
1:15:51
decent bit of matches out of him. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
1:15:55
I think there's probably a list, and it's like, you know, fantasy
1:16:02
matches, maybe from small to big, I assume. And then he said
1:16:10
he will twenty twenty five will be his last elimination chamber, So is that
1:16:15
insinuating that he's actually gonna be in a chamber? Is he gonna be at
1:16:18
that pay per view for sure? And then he announced that WrestleMania well forty
1:16:26
one will be his last, So that's who, like who. I don't
1:16:36
think we can get there in time, but god, I always thought it'd
1:16:41
be perfect send off to have him and Randy Orton face each other at WrestleMania.
1:16:45
There's two guys who started roughly at the same time and who had very
1:16:49
parallel careers throughout ww OR and he's just like two titles world title runs,
1:16:58
shy of cash to see. I mean, could you imagine we have these
1:17:04
two at WrestleMania, tying being sixteen time world champions somehow? You know,
1:17:11
going somebody's gonna break and be seventeen times World Champion, screw it go all
1:17:16
in Sina Orton Lesnar Bautista fatal four way retirement match for all four. I
1:17:26
think Randy would be a good last match. Maybe not last wrestle Mania match.
1:17:32
I don't know who that's gonna be, but I would love to see
1:17:36
him take another run and give give him that World Heavyweight title or whatever it
1:17:42
could only be. You know, it can be for only two months,
1:17:44
you know whatever, just ge't give it to him. I think that would
1:17:46
be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, given that
1:17:51
they've announced this, I don't think anybody would be opposed to seeing us getting
1:17:57
one last title run. Maybe maybe not the probably if anything, maybe the
1:18:01
World Heavyweight title. He doesn't now, I don't think if I had to
1:18:09
pick one or the other, then yeah, because obviously the WWE title that
1:18:14
just be one seems more like the long run championship, whereas the World Heavyweight
1:18:18
title is probably or potentially the one that will probably see shorter reigns, and
1:18:25
so that seems more fitting for seeing a especially since he's probably held practically every
1:18:30
other belt, version of every belt. So let him get a World Heavyweight
1:18:36
championship on his on his wall, to go with everything else, the guy
1:18:41
that gets the rub who beats him for that world title, then I mean,
1:18:46
don't look real good on breakers resume. M Hm, there you go.
1:18:50
I heard. Yeah, he could be a potential I was just falling
1:18:56
that ship, I know, but I've seen seen list of people wanting bron
1:19:01
Beaker to be one of those guys to face John Cena. Yeah. I
1:19:09
mean, if we have to dig in the well again, you know,
1:19:13
if I could pick three opponents, if I had to see John Cena face
1:19:16
again that we've seen many times we discussed Randy Orton, absolutely, give me
1:19:24
another one with aj styles, and then give me another one with Sampunk.
1:19:34
I think all those are very much possible. Yeah, Like he's already said
1:19:41
he's gonna be working a number of dates, he said, but thirty to
1:19:46
forty dates n settled course the course of twenty twenty five, right, So
1:19:51
that opens up a lot of potential shows. Now, I don't think those
1:19:57
are necessarily gonna be spaced out throughout the whole year. I'm pretty sure we're
1:20:00
gonna get a good concentrated run of him from probably either the Rumble itself or
1:20:06
leading into the Rumble through WrestleMania. Not saying he's gonna work every Raw,
1:20:11
every SmackDown, but I think the forty that's like three out of every four
1:20:15
weeks he'll be on TV. I mean, that's that's sure if yeah,
1:20:20
sure, if you if you space it out. But like I said,
1:20:23
I think we're gonna get a concentration of run of a run from Rumble to
1:20:29
WrestleMania where he's probably, if not on every week, but maybe like every
1:20:33
other week, he'll probably do maybe some Raw and some SmackDown that week.
1:20:39
And then obviously, once they figure out whoever his uh wrestling, whose opponents
1:20:43
are gonna be for whatever match, Like obviously, I'm assuming that he's probably
1:20:46
gonna do the Rumble itself, and I think Elimination Chamber. I think he'll
1:20:50
actually be in the Elimination Chamber match. I don't think he's gonna work a
1:20:56
one v one with somebody. I think he's gonna be in the actual elimination
1:21:00
Chamber itself because he's probably gonna be selling up, you know, trying to
1:21:03
chase that title one more time, trying to get one more title run.
1:21:09
And I think that's probably gonna be the the dominant story, probably for most
1:21:15
of I would think probably for at least the first half of this run,
1:21:19
it's probably gonna be about him chasing the title until he inevitably does win it
1:21:25
at some pl possibly SummerSlam or something, but he will I think he will
1:21:29
eventually win it. So yeah, him competing in the rubble makes sense.
1:21:32
Him being an elimination chamber makes sense. He's kind of already alluded to that
1:21:38
in his speech when he was talking about, you know, opportunities for title
1:21:42
runs, and I think he also touched on it in the press conference afterwards
1:21:45
as well as far as opportunities for title runs, so for for title chance
1:21:50
title shots, So those two makes sense. WrestleMania probably be a match with
1:21:57
somebody. I don't think it'll be a title match, but somebody something big
1:22:00
enough worthy of WrestleMania. Then after that, I think we might he might
1:22:08
take a break, and then he'll probably come back, maybe somewhere in the
1:22:11
Midsummer and go on a summertime run going into Summer Slam, and then we'll
1:22:15
probably get an end of the year run where he finishes out and wraps everything
1:22:20
up. That would be probably be my guess, is it, And he
1:22:27
may make obviously like sporadic appearances here and there, like he'll pop up at
1:22:30
a random RAW or a random SmackDown or something like that. But I think
1:22:33
this is probably gonna be mostly in phases. Like I said, We'll probably
1:22:41
get an initial phase from Rumble to Mania, then maybe a phase going into
1:22:45
Summer Slam, and then another phase towards the end of the year to close
1:22:48
it out. Maybe who knows, maybe sur Survival Series might be his farewell
1:22:54
and maybe that will be his final match, so to help build up that,
1:22:59
help build up that because that is the last major one they have of
1:23:02
the year. I mean, after Survivor Series, what is there nothing really
1:23:06
of note? Yeah, but I could see them building a whole Netflix special
1:23:13
or something around John Cena his last match if they want. Yeah, I
1:23:17
could see that. If they want to do it on like an episode of
1:23:19
Raw or something like that, maybe that could they I could see them using
1:23:24
that, yeah, to gas up one of those episodes like this Raw is
1:23:28
seeing his final match will be the main event of this Raw. Yeah,
1:23:30
that's a good point. That could very much happen. I mean yeah,
1:23:36
I mean not unlike you know, Rick Flair's last match a year or two
1:23:42
ago whenever that was, I mean hopefully nowhere nearest hopefully, But I just
1:23:48
mean in terms of the whole show or you know, even even not unlike
1:23:54
what they just did with Sting, you know, like the other matches on
1:23:58
the card, but everybody is really here for Sting's last match, right,
1:24:02
But that was and that was done out of pay per views. So I
1:24:05
guess which Raw can Yeah, yeah, WW can easily pull off on an
1:24:12
episode of Raw or SmackDown. What AW does in a pay per view?
1:24:16
Right? That real question would be with Netflix and USA. Well, yeah,
1:24:24
with Netflix in USA conditually potentially compete for it, like we won't see
1:24:28
this final match. No, we won't see this final match. Well,
1:24:32
I mean he didn't specifically call out Rod and Netflix is like one of the
1:24:38
things he was looking forward to being involved with. Sure, so I mean
1:24:42
I don't take that with a grain of salts. But ultimately, you know,
1:24:47
Netflix is still the unknown right now, so as how it's gonna work
1:24:51
and what it's gonna you know, how successful it's ultimately gonna be for WWE.
1:24:58
But I imagine both to them, at least on their end from on
1:25:01
the company on the network side, would love to be the one to have
1:25:05
that final match, to be able to air that promotion for that, Like
1:25:10
especially USA, you know they'd love to be able to run the commercials for
1:25:13
that and get that huge rating jump that would inevitably come from his final match
1:25:19
being on that episode of SmackDown, Whereas Netflix, I'm sure would love the
1:25:25
bump in streams of viewership that would come from his final match being on an
1:25:29
episode for all which everyone is gonna be And I don't have to make that
1:25:34
decision. Did you guys see they had going throughout the night. I saw
1:25:45
that they had a graphic on the screen. Yeah, unless you show me
1:25:50
some old school ass freaking ac DC plugged in ship with a needle that jumping
1:25:56
around. Now if I think France was the first one that they had,
1:26:02
you know, issues with so are not issues but like alert right, and
1:26:08
now they're making it like a thing. They're trying to make it. Oh
1:26:12
look at now, and everybody is, man, what the fuck ever?
1:26:15
What kind of hear? What that little dumb ass graphic? Yeah, like
1:26:19
I said, show me a camera on an actual decibel meter, some old
1:26:24
analog looking ship that I'll believe it ship, Yeah, show me the motherfucker
1:26:30
with some headphones and a probe. Yeah, well I was thinking about that
1:26:34
because I was thinking about the next match. But carry on, uh,
1:26:40
which was Damian Priest taking on Seth freaking Rollins for the World Heavyweight Championship.
1:26:54
This was a damn good match. Here you goes On. I thought it
1:26:56
was a really good match for what it was. I mean, and that's
1:27:00
what the finish setting set aside just those two going at it. More and
1:27:04
more with Damian Priest, the more title defenses I see from him, he
1:27:11
is gradually, I think, making himself more credible as the champion. He's
1:27:15
winning me over as a credible champion with each match that he has because less
1:27:23
and less as the judgment jet done. Yeah, he's standing on his own
1:27:28
more. He's having good matches. He has not had a single bad title
1:27:31
defense match, not a one. Every single one of them has been good
1:27:35
matches and he's coming off looking like a champion and pretty much all of them.
1:27:45
Now, I'm not saying that he's, you know, perfect with it
1:27:49
or he's completely won me over. I still think he there's some work to
1:27:54
be done in terms of his how he's presenting his character in between the matches.
1:28:00
I think he's still a big coming off as the guy holding the belt
1:28:06
as opposed to being the actual champion. There there's a there's a presence about
1:28:12
you, there's an aura about you when you really carry yourself as a champion,
1:28:18
And I think people can pick up on it and see like, okay,
1:28:21
I see a champion now, like you carry yourself that way. Like
1:28:26
I just talked about Sammy's ain earlier in the promo, he cut this past
1:28:30
Monday off raw where he really owned his position as a champion, and it's
1:28:35
you know, it's he moved, He talked different, he sounded different as
1:28:41
opposed to just what he was doing before. Damien Priest is still again from
1:28:47
a character standpoint, he still coming off as what he's doing as what he
1:28:51
was before he won the belt. He doesn't he still doesn't have that part
1:28:57
down to me. But and the matches themselves, Yeah, ain't nothing to
1:29:04
criticize there on my end except for that huge giant botch that happened. But
1:29:14
that ain't on Damian Priest. Well actually maybe yeah, I say it could
1:29:18
be because we don't know if he was supposed, we don't know what went
1:29:23
wrong there was he supposed to kick out or was the music supposed to hit
1:29:29
before the three and distract the ref That's what I think, that's what it
1:29:33
seems like. But still should have kicked out regardless, and Roland should have
1:29:39
like acted as if he had kicked out right instead of just looking up at
1:29:44
the ref like what the fuck? That was a three? What are you
1:29:46
doing? Because then he yeah, all said there would just draw more attention
1:29:49
to the obvious batch that just happened. That's one of the things where it's
1:29:54
like, if I guess, in the planning of the match, you should
1:29:58
always plan in back up. You shouldn't always rely on this one thing working.
1:30:03
So yeah, it would have been rather than Damian Preach just sitting there
1:30:08
expecting, okay, I'm just gonna lay here that he's just gonna hear the
1:30:12
referee is gonna turn his head. I don't have to kick out. It
1:30:14
shouldn't be one of those things, maybe more so like, okay, here's
1:30:16
the count, I'm going to kick out, but the music is also going
1:30:19
to hit. Yeah, that way that both of them are in there that
1:30:23
way in the event that something goes wrong, it just kicked out because referees
1:30:28
are supposed to count depends as a shoot, you know, like if you
1:30:32
don't kick out, if they're counting three and you don't kick out, they're
1:30:35
gonna They're supposed to, you know what, the finish is supposed to be,
1:30:43
right, So obviously that didn't happen. Yeah, and yeah, technically
1:30:46
they're supposed to. But you can tell watching that they they they it's more
1:30:50
or less a work with the referees because you can tell that they intentionally stop
1:30:57
their hands and as supposed to, like as opposed to like. I don't
1:31:00
know, maybe it was just on the naive minds back in the day,
1:31:02
but it felt more like the referee back in the day would react to the
1:31:05
kickout and stop himself and they were just that well trained enough that they could
1:31:10
stop their hand from actually hitting the mat, Whereas now it's almost like you
1:31:14
could almost see them applying the brakes as they're going down for the three.
1:31:17
Like two, it's like, you don't let the music interfere. Do your
1:31:24
fucking job. If I think the refs should just do his damn job.
1:31:30
Music didn't hit, that's not the ref right, Damian priest didn't kick out,
1:31:35
Well, guess what you just blew your own title defense. Yeah,
1:31:39
exactly, man, the ref because you know what they just they just I
1:31:45
just saw something on Twitter about they want to put body cams now on referees.
1:31:51
Tried that before but did not work. Terrible idea. Did w W
1:31:57
have a referee cam? Yeah? It was terrible. It's like it's on
1:32:01
the head, it's not on the chest. So like, no, I
1:32:05
don't I don't need another no, because I'm gonna be anoustius as ship.
1:32:11
Right, nothing about a body cam is ever worked? Well, no,
1:32:16
not that kind of action. Like, no, we don't want to see
1:32:19
this dude flopping around and ship or look at this close U the referee getting
1:32:23
crushed by somebody and being laid. I don't need to see that. I
1:32:29
I can't even I can't even take an episode of Cops with the body cams
1:32:31
anymore. You want me to watch three hours of the ship. Yeah,
1:32:38
nobody, nobody needs that jittery mess. That's no. That on the floor.
1:32:44
Yeah, I didn't ask. I didn't ask for cameras and the turnbuckles
1:32:46
either. Stop putting cameras in places we don't need them. Fun anyway.
1:32:54
Uh, you know what, I I agree with you dre with Damian Priest
1:32:58
as his title offense is he's been making himself a more credible champion with trying
1:33:03
to prove to us and to himself that he doesn't need the Judgment Day to
1:33:10
get the job done. And he was visibly pissed at the end of this
1:33:15
match, you know, because of that. He wanted to prove that he
1:33:18
could do it by himself. But you know what, Damon, Like,
1:33:24
this is the price you pay for being world champion. Everybody's gonna be gunning
1:33:28
for you, everybody, and you know what, there's other FEUs going on
1:33:32
that involved the world title, and that's just how it is, man,
1:33:36
That's just how it is. You're in the center of it. You got
1:33:39
that target on your back, But the second you don't have that world title,
1:33:43
this shit is not your problem anymore, you know. Uh So,
1:33:46
yeah, you're gonna have some sort of sanatikins during your match, of course,
1:33:50
dude, of course. And you should have known that that Drew McIntyre
1:33:57
was gonna cash in. I would have thought that he would have had Judgment
1:34:00
Day on standby because of that. I would have I would have been like,
1:34:04
listen, like Drew, Drew fucking said it on the show. Didn't
1:34:08
he like he's gonna cash in the same night when he wins the briefcase.
1:34:13
I would have I would have had judgment days standing in my side, Like,
1:34:15
listen, this motherfucker comes to cash in, don't let him. Don't
1:34:18
let him in, don't let him pass, you know, Like I get
1:34:25
that. But at the same time, if he's a champion that wants to
1:34:28
prove himself, he really shouldn't be concerned about somebody cashing and you want to
1:34:33
cash in, fucking bring it. I'm much him ill whooped your ass too,
1:34:38
That really shouldn't be a concern for him. I guess I think I
1:34:42
think, dude, now see him Punk getting involved at that, that may
1:34:45
be a more legitimate reason for him to be upset, because you know,
1:34:48
it's somebody that once again aided you, and whether directly or indirectly, aided
1:34:55
you in retaining your title. I think that to me, that's why I
1:34:59
got this. Seemed like it was why he was more upset, not necessarily
1:35:03
because Drew cashed in, but more so that seeing Punk then got involved and
1:35:09
beat the shit out of Drew and then served up a limp Drew to him
1:35:14
for the pen. I love the fact that you know that Sandpunk did interfere
1:35:24
and didn't let it did. A lot of people thought it may have been
1:35:29
a waste of the money to bank briefcase being catched in and lost immediately,
1:35:35
but like I said before, like most of the time, that's what happens.
1:35:39
They blowed their locofore the pay reviews even over, and then we just
1:35:42
have one briefcase for the rest of the year instead of having too essentially two
1:35:46
matches. But at the end the pay review, we normally only have one
1:35:49
briefcase left to focus on for a long period of time, and I'm cool
1:35:57
with that, you know, instead of having to all year round. Ah.
1:36:02
But it's again, this was bigger. The feud with Punk and Drew's
1:36:10
bigger than the world title. And they had that silly stipulation where like if
1:36:16
Priest loses yes to lead judgment day and as Seth loses, he can never
1:36:21
get a world title shot as long as Damian Priest's champion, which they kind
1:36:26
of like throughout the window next day. But but it doesn't matter, because
1:36:32
it's just it furthers the the the heat with Seth and Punk because you got
1:36:41
it doesn't matter you got screwed out of the world title regardless, it doesn't
1:36:45
matter if the stipulation you were still screwed over. And I love that Punk
1:36:50
was able to kind of screw two people over in this match and keep the
1:36:55
feud with Seth still in that back burner, keeping that shit warm because he's
1:37:00
basically lining up opponents when he's when he and yeah, and I like that
1:37:06
though. I like that this this man has been injured but yet still relevant
1:37:14
and still building feuds to the point where like when he comes back, there's
1:37:18
hot people, like there's people who's like, dude, I still got fucking
1:37:20
beef with you, Like, don't forget, like I didn't forget man,
1:37:26
and and and that's what it was nice is they didn't let us forget that.
1:37:29
Oh yeah, that's right. Seth and Punk aren't fucking cool. Like
1:37:32
we thought they were kind of cool for a little bit because they've been avoiding
1:37:36
each other. But yeah, dude, that that they're they're not fucking cool
1:37:40
because you sell the way Seth was going after Punk and Corey Grays had to
1:37:44
step in. Uh yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed that because then drew through his
1:37:49
tantrum at the end of the night and ended up you know, going over
1:37:54
to the kickoff panel and throwing a tantrum and uh end up elbowing and uh
1:38:03
you got himself suspended, which again it doesn't you know, they threw out
1:38:09
the window because they're thinking about bringing Drew back and Tire back. So suspensions
1:38:15
don't really hold I like when they do when they when they say they would
1:38:19
find a wrestler, because they used to get in the attitude there they used
1:38:24
to find a wrestler. Suspensions I just don't feel like mean anything because they
1:38:29
don't really suspend people. No, not unless you're gonna suspend, not unless
1:38:32
well, I don't like the fact that they say they're suspended indefinitely, like
1:38:38
we know, it's not fucking indefinitely. Like it ain't like the NFL where
1:38:42
it's like suspended. It definitely like, okay, we legit, don't know
1:38:45
when somebody's gonna come back, or they have to you know, fulfill certain
1:38:47
things before they're allowed to come back into the league. Y'all say suspended,
1:38:51
it definitely basically means okay, we're just gonna drag the storyline out for another
1:38:56
week or two. Yeah, you're suspended. Until next week, right,
1:39:01
this week? Suspended it definitely next week. We had talks with him next
1:39:05
week after that. He's back. Yeah, he jumped the barrier. Oh
1:39:10
my god, he's back. I thought he was suspended, right God yeah?
1:39:16
Or you or when they come sit a ring side with their hold their
1:39:19
ticket up. I'm not suspended. I bought a tick in the fucking loopholes.
1:39:27
The fucking loopholes and fucking for wrestling is ridiculous. Could you imagine just
1:39:32
imagine that ship pulling that ship off at your job, you know, like
1:39:36
you work at McDonald's, right, and you got suspended for McDonald's, but
1:39:41
like you come in and you go, you go and eat on the inside
1:39:45
and you sit there like all day. I'm not suspended. I'm a customer
1:39:49
using up the Wi Fi, just fucking using the bathroom, sitting in the
1:39:54
ac, just getting unlimited drinks. And they're like, OK, what oh
1:40:00
yeah the milkshake. Yeah, I would assume ice ice cream is broken.
1:40:06
We're about to fight. Just take an advantage of suspended. I'm not suspended.
1:40:12
I'm a goddamning customer a right, yeah, just stick with the fines.
1:40:18
Stick with the fines. Tell us an actual dollar amount on the fines
1:40:23
talium all up and then at the end of the year have a freaking battle
1:40:27
Royal or a ladder match or something with all the money at the top.
1:40:34
Like all right, this year, you guys racked up, all right,
1:40:40
Like this year, all you wrestlers are raw racked up a total of three
1:40:44
hundred and seventy eight thousand dollars in fines and it's all in that briefcase hanging
1:40:50
from the top right, hanging from the top of the ring man, and
1:40:56
every everybody who got fined gets to be in the match. There was U
1:41:00
during COVID they had a the money in the Bank match in inside the building,
1:41:05
and then there was I think Dana Brooke was in a room and there's
1:41:09
a briefcase was full of cash, and she grabbed it and they were like,
1:41:12
no, that's not the one. I was like, like, hell
1:41:14
it ain't. Like that's the fucking briefcase you should win. That's fucking funny.
1:41:19
Though, uh other than that, I mean, with all the shenanigans
1:41:28
going throughout this match, Damien is walking out still world champion, pissed the
1:41:32
ship, though still world champion, still world champion. That the heat yeah,
1:41:40
the heat with with with with with the other two with Drew and Seth.
1:41:45
You know these guys, these two guys didn't get to walk at at
1:41:47
all with the title. But man, are they pissed. They are coming
1:41:54
for Punk and I'm excited. Yeah they Shoul's hitting the feverite pitches at a
1:41:58
boiling point. Seth and Punk still simmering underneath it all and Drew Drew uh
1:42:08
Damian Priest Babyface turned loading. Oh dude, yeah, very slowly, right,
1:42:15
but it's coming. Oh yeah, it's definitely coming. He's he's still
1:42:19
affiliated with Judgment Day. But that moment he had with Seth Rollins on Monday
1:42:24
Night Raw was a total baby face move. He said, forget the agreement
1:42:29
anytime, I'll go to war with you. Like total baby face move.
1:42:33
Yeah. I think in the in the ashes of Judgment Day, he and
1:42:38
Rio will probably remain affiliated somehow. Uh did you see there was a video
1:42:45
released of him watching the end of Raw and he says like he says something
1:42:50
like there's always consequences or something like that. I mean, he's clearly a
1:42:58
team Rhea, you know what I mean. I just think we could have
1:43:03
an internal civil war of Judgment Day. Here we're talking about the bloodline.
1:43:08
We're always talking about the Bloodline civil war, But what about the Judgment Day
1:43:11
civil war? What about you know, we've we can talk about it here.
1:43:15
We we've seen a little bit of it yesterday or Monday with Finn Balor,
1:43:19
you know, Finn and Damon. There is some there I see that
1:43:27
could be internal strife. I don't know if it reaches civil war levels,
1:43:30
just because I think there's really only two people in Judgment Day that the fans
1:43:35
kind of sort of like, and that's Damian Priest and and uh riar Ripley.
1:43:43
There's space for Finn Balor to be liked, but I think he does
1:43:46
much better work as a heel, and he's I think if we're going to
1:43:50
talk about, you know, the aftermath of Judgment Day, he's more likely
1:43:54
going to remain affiliated with j D McDonough and some sort of tag team,
1:43:58
since that's probably there. Fate. Dom is a Dom got years before anybody
1:44:03
starts to like his ass. He He is stuck in the heel purgatory for
1:44:08
a good while. He is he is no matter where he goes. But
1:44:12
I still feel like if you paired Dom with a even though he could still
1:44:17
be hell, hear me out Dom with and I think it's because of Riha
1:44:26
and with a face Ria who returned on Monday and a face priest versus uh
1:44:33
uh you know JD, a Finn Balord, maybe even a Carlito. But
1:44:41
live Morgan in there. Nope, Dom still would. He would still be
1:44:45
booed out of the building. He's still be hated. People would just be
1:44:48
mad about him being affiliated with them, Like why is this to happen?
1:44:51
Because if anything, he has even more heat now now that Ria's back,
1:44:58
and that would end that could end up hurting if you got real, you
1:45:00
know, clearly seeing what's been happening. And now she's gonna be the woman
1:45:05
who takes Dom back or accepts him after that, Well, he's very submissive
1:45:11
man. That would that would be more her her character. She's taking him
1:45:15
back because he's a toy man. They have got to have a custody of
1:45:20
Dom ladder match. I swear to god, dude, it needs to fucking
1:45:26
lead to that. If you don't know what we're talking about, there was
1:45:30
a custody battle for Dom with Raymond Stereo and Eddie Guerrero back when Dom was
1:45:35
a wee little boy, and I did see a fan and blonde, Yeah,
1:45:40
and blonde, I did see a fan. Ask if you could go
1:45:44
back, would put you have grabbed that contract and ed and Brady's like,
1:45:48
no, If I would have known how he would have turned out, I
1:45:51
would have let Eddie take him. Yeah, that's great though, Yeah,
1:45:57
great, you gotta you gotta dude domb like buff bag was mom dominated on
1:46:04
a pole. Put him in a cage at the top. That's always classic.
1:46:09
God. Yeah, remember when Enzo was in a cage and he he
1:46:14
loved himself up with oil and slid out. You remember when Sting was in
1:46:18
a cage and Robot saved him? Oh god, oh boy. I thought
1:46:27
that was the coolest ship every when I was a kid, singing RoboCop couldn't
1:46:32
get no better. Like that was like your fucking moment, you fucking that
1:46:38
was like a favorite moment for you as a kid. Absolutely, like fucking
1:46:44
RoboCop was cool, Sting was cool. Them two together, Oh ship,
1:46:47
These motherfuckers are gonna get arrested, but more did my little nine year old
1:46:53
heart need. Oh my god, I'll play this for you, Doyle,
1:47:00
you fucking Mark. I don't think I would have remembered that one. Oh
1:47:09
that's what you should asking about robo cop. Oh yeah, Snumper, Yeah
1:47:17
right, you a robo coops? Still hang out? You guys get lunch
1:47:20
every now and then. Right now? Yeah, if you have a problem
1:47:27
with your neighbor, do you call him? Do you have him on speed
1:47:30
out? Do you call RoboCop before you call nine to one? One?
1:47:36
Right? Oh, what's the next segment? Next match was Women's Money in
1:47:46
the Bank Ladder match Tiffany Stratton versus Chelsea Green versus Eo Sky versus Lyra Valkyria
1:47:55
versus Naomi versus Zoe Stark. Now, I'm just gonna go ahead and say
1:48:03
this was the match of the night. Women did what they always do,
1:48:09
and that showed the fuck out. They held nothing back. They went hard
1:48:15
as fuck. Tons of creative spots, tons of over the top spots,
1:48:20
just outright nastiness in this match. Some spots it was just like, how
1:48:28
did you not break your fucking neck doing that shit? Plus also, you
1:48:35
know, everyoneman got a moment to shine, every woman got a moment to
1:48:39
look good. You still had time for storytelling elements and stuff like Chelsea Green
1:48:45
in her fear of heights, and I loved how I loved how the audience
1:48:49
was getting behind her too. It's obviously she's gonna remain here for an extended
1:48:56
time now because she's just too good at that right now. But whenever she
1:49:00
does make that turn, the fans are ready for it. The fans she
1:49:04
got, Yeah, that that too, But it's it's there, It's it's
1:49:10
the building. But yeah, but ultimately, Chelsea Green was not going to
1:49:17
win the money in the brain beefcase. She fell or came up short falling
1:49:24
between through two tables so that Tiffany Stratton could become our miss Money in the
1:49:30
bank, which I have no problem with. I mean, it makes sense
1:49:39
and kind of seems to be playing into the scenario that I spelled out in
1:49:44
our previous episode. But I will say one of my favorite spots in this
1:49:49
match, well, I'll say two of them. One was when Lyra Valkeria
1:49:59
was just hanging up, hanging on the ladder and then EO's guy literally just
1:50:02
fucking stomped her face in on the damn ladder. Awesome. In this match,
1:50:06
Yo, EO went the funk off in this match, Like Jesus,
1:50:11
she she had some of the best spots in this whole match. The other
1:50:15
one was the the Michinoku driver she hit on fucking Zoe Stark. Jesus,
1:50:21
I thought she bout broke Zoe's neck on too. Yeah Zoe, I'm alive.
1:50:30
Yeah, Zoe sold that ship. EO sold that ship like she funcked
1:50:32
her tail bowed up like it was the old point where I was like,
1:50:35
hold up, is she she really hurt? She because she was telling that
1:50:39
ship through the finish of the match. Still she Zoe Stark looked like uh
1:50:45
Arnold Swartzenegger from Commando. Yeah, I don't know why she did that face
1:50:50
pant don't really don't film or something. Yeah, I just don't. I
1:51:00
don't. Yeah. I mean not to knock the women too much, but
1:51:02
I don't get why they just randomly decided certain shows like I d am painting
1:51:05
my face on this one, Like, yeah, why this is the show
1:51:11
that you decide you're just gonna do the face paint thing? Like why remember
1:51:14
when fucking uh Shanda Basler and Ronda did it for their match last summer.
1:51:20
I was like, who thought this was a good idea? Like like if
1:51:25
you go and pay your face either go either fully commit or don't do it.
1:51:30
Don't give us this half assed guerrilla warfare looking bullshit, like either go
1:51:34
full Oscar or don't. Yeah, you know, another good spot was Naomi
1:51:43
doing the splits and then uh I think in between the ladders. Yeah,
1:51:46
and then she I think she dedt' somebody I can't remember who that that bumped
1:51:54
in The match with Chelsea Tuck to the tables was fucking great too, who
1:51:59
everybody? Yeah, I agree with this is the match of the night.
1:52:02
It just I mean, it was like a train wreck, but in the
1:52:05
best possible way. Uh. You know, it wasn't always pretty. There
1:52:12
were a couple moves that weren't you know, executed the perfection. But you
1:52:16
know what, it's a fucking ladder match. Maybe they're not supposed to be
1:52:19
everything's supposed to be flawless. Yeah, Chelsea was fucking hilarious. You talked
1:52:28
about her getting face pops. Tiffany Stratton I think got the biggest face pop
1:52:31
of anybody. They're gonna have to have her do some despicable ass ship to
1:52:38
get her some heel heat back. Otherwise lose her and she's just gonna be
1:52:43
undeniable. Have to turn baby face. I don't know what despicable. I
1:52:48
mean, she's hanging with with Naya Jacks, but sometimes just being friends with
1:52:53
a heel isn't good enough to make you a heel. You know. Look,
1:52:56
look no further than Ria Ripley attached to dominate the big you know,
1:53:00
one of the most overheels in the business. Yet Rhea still gets cheered.
1:53:03
So I don't know. I think Tiff maybe will have to like pretend to
1:53:09
cash in to distract Bailey so that to help Nia beat her or something like
1:53:14
that. But she's gonna have to get down and dirty and and and get
1:53:17
the fans bowing her because otherwise she's just gonna I mean, she's gonna be
1:53:23
a face eventually anyway, of course, but they're gonna have to have her
1:53:27
doing some dastardly shit otherwise she's not gonna be heal once longer. Yeah,
1:53:36
you're absolutely right about that. And the problem I see is that the fact
1:53:45
that she's getting cheered so much, I said, I still feel like it's
1:53:50
a bit undeserved just for what she's done on the main roster, not taking
1:53:56
anything away from her talent whatsoever, because she can absolutely go in the ring.
1:54:01
I learned that about her when I watched her have that match with Becky
1:54:04
Lynch. It was earlier this year or last year that she had to match
1:54:08
with Becky Lynch. That's what she won me over as a competitor. So
1:54:12
I take nothing away from her talent in the ring. She's got it all
1:54:16
the way. But it just feels like when you just look at what she's
1:54:20
done on the main roster versus and compare that to the reaction she's getting from
1:54:26
the crowd, the two just don't seem to match up to me. And
1:54:31
maybe wrestling's like that sometimes, I guess. Sometimes sometimes things just spontaneous.
1:54:40
Sometimes the fans just decide to spontaneously get behind somebody and like, this is
1:54:46
the person we like, This is the person we riding with. Regardless why
1:54:50
they chose Tiffany Stratton, I don't know, I don't want to speculate,
1:54:57
but it apparently it appears to be someone that the fans have chosen. And
1:55:05
yeah, the w W, like you said, WW is gonna have it's
1:55:11
a problem that they're gonna have to figure out in terms of how to solve
1:55:13
this because she is very much a heel right now. But it's and it's
1:55:19
not gonna look good for somebody that you clearly have pegged as a heel feuding
1:55:25
with people you have clearly pegged as baby faces. She's the one getting cheered
1:55:30
and your baby it would be a huge pop right right, Like she gets
1:55:36
she did that the Bailey, she would absolutely get a huge pop. But
1:55:41
baby Bailey is supposed to be your baby face. So what the fans are
1:55:44
gonna turn on Bailey like that would be weird and awkward. Or if she
1:55:50
is a bit of feud with somebody like Bianca bell Air, like who's one
1:55:56
of your top baby faces in the company, And then now all of a
1:55:59
sudden, you got a crowd that's cheering Tiffany and starting to boo Byanca just
1:56:04
because she just by proxy of because she's in there with Tiffany. Like it's
1:56:10
a very awkward or potentially awkward scenario that they're in right now. But if
1:56:16
the storyline, uh, last thing, if the storyline plays out the way
1:56:20
I think it's going to, then they might not have as much of a
1:56:26
problem. Because I think Nia Jackson is about as solid in the heel camp
1:56:30
as can be. She's still she's kind of like almost where Donald's as she
1:56:35
got a ways to go, I think before the fans will start to embrace
1:56:40
her and cheer her. So, you know, if they go the route
1:56:45
of Naya being champion and her bestie Tiffany being missed money in the bank,
1:56:50
you know, the threat right next to you, then who knows, maybe
1:56:57
they dragged that out and maybe they once they can't turn to hold the tide
1:57:00
back on Tiffany any further, they use that to have her cash in and
1:57:04
that be the que of her face turned. Who knows, but tbd uh.
1:57:15
I don't know. If you guys been seeing a lot of rumors going
1:57:15
around about them thinking about introducing a secondary women's title. There's been actual like
1:57:21
pictures going around. Oh those are AI ones? Yeah, definitely aile.
1:57:30
I like the idea though, Oh yeah, I've been how long I've been
1:57:33
pitching that on this show? Yeah yeah, I mean like so dre like
1:57:39
like instead that backing themselves into their corner, I mean, it would be
1:57:42
a nice quick way to put a secondary title on somebody. If I'm gonna
1:57:45
cash in in on this vacated title, like you guys are gonna announce a
1:57:49
new title, Nobody's nobody's champion, but you're gonna you know it's vacated,
1:57:55
right, but you're gonna, Okay, well you're gonna activate. I'm send
1:58:00
cash in right away for it. Like I could totally see Tiffany doing that
1:58:02
at some point, but I think, I mean, yeah, yeah,
1:58:10
that's not a bad idea. My only issue is that I just don't like
1:58:14
the prospect of people cashing in, breathe a money in the bank briefcase on
1:58:16
a mid card title, especially if you're already a mid car talent, Like
1:58:21
somebody like Tiffany shouldn't need to cash in on a women's Intercontinental title or a
1:58:28
women's US title. She should already be in the title in the picture for
1:58:31
that, you would think, yeah, yeah, uh, but should they
1:58:39
introduce him? Yeah, if were she not already miss money in the bank,
1:58:43
she would be a prime candidate for that women's mid card title whenever they
1:58:46
do finally come. Yeah, but these women got like what they get Like,
1:58:55
oh, they got like a few, like twenty seconds more than the
1:58:59
guys. How about that when it comes down to timing, sixteen minutes and
1:59:01
fifty seconds and the guys had sixteen minutes and thirty seconds. And boy do
1:59:08
these women cook for this match? Yeah, Drey, dude, Match of
1:59:14
the night for sure. The spots were so much better than the guys,
1:59:18
the storytelling, the just I don't know, maybe it was just the type
1:59:23
of women that were in the match. Like Chelsea was great in the match,
1:59:28
had me really believing. Man, she was a Canadian girl. I
1:59:32
thought she was gonna fucking win in Canada. I'm still don't get me wrong,
1:59:38
I'm absolutely happy with the result we got. I was for either or,
1:59:42
but I mean, yeah, they were both funny during the match.
1:59:45
There's I see scene of Chelsea and Tiffany outside the ring and they're like fanning
1:59:53
each other. That's funny. There there were some you know, spots that
2:00:00
were I was like, Dan, somebody really got hurt. Zoe was did
2:00:05
one which she flipped up over the rope and onto the ladder. I think
2:00:13
Valkyrim may have been on the ladder, and she she nailed her head for
2:00:15
sure. She hit her head on that ladder coming as Yeah, I was
2:00:20
like, oh god. And then she took that massive bump at the end
2:00:25
of the night. You know, props to her for taking that, and
2:00:30
props to fucking Chelsea man, I don't think I've ever seen a woman take
2:00:33
a spot that high. I mean, for me, I couldn't do that.
2:00:38
Being on the ladder in a ring is sketchy enough because it's shaking.
2:00:43
People are running around, moving around, it's shaking. It's already the ring's
2:00:46
already above the ground. Now you're putting a fifteen foot ladder and then you're
2:00:51
gonna tip it and just to get the you know, just to get the
2:00:57
math right, just to be able, like hopefully you clear, you don't
2:01:00
hit the rope, you don't hit the guardrail, like, hopefully you don't
2:01:03
miss the table completely. I've seen Spike Dudley like missed the table in the
2:01:10
back of his head hit the table like. I've seen it go bad in
2:01:14
so many ways. But this one went perfect. And you know what,
2:01:18
we've seen a spot like this before. I think it was like Bubba Ray
2:01:24
Dudley and maybe one of the Hardy boys where they he went on the outside
2:01:29
and he went through four tables. They stacked the table with four high.
2:01:32
She only went through two because she didn't have a full four to go through.
2:01:35
She only went through two. But hell, that's a way to go
2:01:40
if you're gonna leave a match. I was all for it because when it
2:01:44
was down to them too at the top, I was like, Okay,
2:01:45
somebody's going through those tables that were put up there. He ain't setting up
2:01:49
two fucking tables on the outside unless somebody's gonna go through them. So I
2:01:54
like that the tiff and and Chelsea sent them up, and then Tiff through
2:01:57
Chelsea through it. Yeah. Yeah, nice subtle storytelling. Yeah, that
2:02:03
was probably the biggest bump of the whole show. Yeah, Chelsea prettier to
2:02:09
Naomi on the ladder. I was like, oh God, that could have
2:02:14
gone wrong. A lot of these, a lot of these like they could
2:02:17
have gone so wrong. You know, sometimes you don't know about injuries.
2:02:23
I'm kind of like waiting to still hear if anybody got injured. It seems
2:02:29
like EO was fine because she had a match recently on rall. I'm just
2:02:33
I just watched that spot again with Chelsea going through going through this tails.
2:02:38
That's that's crazy, how about it? I just watched Zoe cracker Head on
2:02:42
that fucking ladder. Yeah, I know, I know, well, I
2:02:46
mean that stuff like that happens. You know, spacing is a little bit
2:02:49
off yeah, I mean yeah, because that's not something again, that right
2:02:53
there, I wouldn't consider that to be a botch, like that move was
2:02:56
just spacing was off. They you know, it's not like you can accurately
2:03:00
gauge Okay, I need to have the latter exactly, you know, twenty
2:03:04
three inches away from it's already set up. It's where it is. She
2:03:08
gets a position, you got to hit the move, and it's more or
2:03:11
less on you as the performer to try to you know, land in the
2:03:15
right spot. But yeah, but yeah, overall, guys matching the night
2:03:21
for me, absolutely, yeah, so absolutely they did good by having this
2:03:30
be the penultimate match as opposed to the kickoff match, because if the guys
2:03:34
had to follow this up, hell no, boy dude, I just thought
2:03:39
about that too. Yeah, there's no way they would have been able to
2:03:41
do. I mean as per as a way the card worked out with the
2:03:44
world title, but yeah, there's no way the guys couldnot top this.
2:03:49
Awesome. That's what about doing two of these at a time, you know.
2:03:54
Yeah, And you know what's funny is I wonder if this has anything
2:03:58
to do with it about a week ago maybe maybe no, maybe a week
2:04:04
week or two. Tony Kahan released like a statement saying, how aw has
2:04:11
the best women's wrestling division, And I think they kind of stepped it up
2:04:16
here, kind of proved. I don't know about that, Tony Khan,
2:04:23
I don't know there he isn't that his bulletin board material? Maybe maybe,
2:04:29
yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised. Oh y'all got what y'all must have
2:04:36
forgot. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely a motivation for the ladies to like,
2:04:41
yeah, we'll show you the best fucking women's wrestling. If not sure,
2:04:45
Blake's was like, yeah, well we'll show you so. And yeah,
2:04:49
this this briefcase, this white briefcase with Vought on it, that's definitely
2:04:55
gonna change. It's I agree, Doyle, it's gonna be pink, it's
2:04:58
gonna be tiffy time, it's gonna I wouldn't put it past her if she
2:05:02
attached a fucking strap to it and used it like a purse, I guarantee
2:05:09
it, Like nobody else has done it yet, And Tiffany Stratton seemed to
2:05:13
the person to fucking do it. Put a fucking strap to it, but
2:05:16
dazzle it. Put some fucking diamonds on it. Sh It's definitely gonna be
2:05:19
fucking pink for sure. You know, I can't think of anything brock Lessener
2:05:26
did the boombox version. You know, we've seen we've seen many different versions,
2:05:32
and we've seen him bust it up and basically destroyed. We just saw
2:05:36
Demon Priest version of it, you know, with the I think Edge had
2:05:41
a version of his own. So timmy Stra is gonna put her own little
2:05:45
spin on it. So I think we talked about that in episode when of
2:05:50
them doing that turn it into like a little handbag. Yeah, I think
2:05:57
that'd be fucking great. That'd be fucking awesome, right, rather than lugging
2:06:00
that whole little brief that large briefcase around. It's just over there shoulder like
2:06:04
a little handbag, a little mini money in the bank briefcase. When she
2:06:12
already talked about it in the post press conference, she was gonna do something
2:06:15
with it, like make it pink or what have you. Yeah, yeah,
2:06:19
all right, man, let's move on to the main't event, The
2:06:25
Bloodline version two point zero solo so Coola, Jacob Pattu and Toma Tonga taking
2:06:33
on Godi Rhodes, Kevin Owens and Randy Orton and a six man tag team
2:06:41
match that was Okay, it was long. I think it went a little
2:06:48
longer than necessary. Yes, Like yah, y'all, y'all ain't y'all maybe
2:06:55
the blood Line, but y'all ain't. Y'all ain't earned a cachet to be
2:06:58
having these Dagon twenty five thirty and matches. Get got, y'all gotta work
2:07:01
you'all way up to that shit. But yeah, match went longer than I
2:07:06
think it needed to. But ultimately the blood Line did come out on top
2:07:11
pretty much as expected because as we said, as I said in the previous
2:07:16
episode, they need the wins until they get some gold, until they get
2:07:23
some sort of championship credibility. They can't afford to lose anything because they already
2:07:30
have the hurdle to climb of being compared to the original iteration of the blood
2:07:36
Line and Roman and the USOS. You know, one of the greatest world
2:07:42
champions of all time and one of the best tag teams of all time,
2:07:45
and y'all just some new motherfuckers. We already got that shit that y'all being
2:07:49
compared to. So you know, the second y'all lose, the second y'all
2:07:54
lose any of this momentum y'all got. It's a rap for him, so
2:07:58
they have to win. It did also go as as I think I was
2:08:03
expected with uh Solo getting depend on Cody, because that will obviously set up
2:08:11
what many believes is gonna be a match at SummerSlam with Solo facing Cody for
2:08:15
the WWE title. MM everything else outside of that, I mean, Jacob
2:08:22
Fatu looked as good as advertised in the match. He looked like a beast.
2:08:26
He performed well for you know, essentially being what is essentially my first
2:08:31
time getting a good look at him in a match, because you know,
2:08:35
not gonna sit there and pretend that you know, I was some internet guy,
2:08:37
savvy guy watching all his matches over in these other promotions. No,
2:08:41
I wouldn't. I ain't seen him be foe, So my first time seeing
2:08:45
him, and he looks good in the match, He looks solid, looks
2:08:48
like he actually legit knows what he's doing in that ring. Didn't come off
2:08:52
as like some somebody you know, less experienced who did come off looking a
2:08:58
little bit a little green. Was mister I can't do a nutshot properly.
2:09:05
Togaloa just totally freaking fisted Ko in the gooch towards the end of the match.
2:09:15
Yeah, and then he hit and he hit uh uh Tom of Tonga
2:09:18
in the head and when he when he did it the second time, right,
2:09:24
Yeah, So, I mean you just showed everybody why you was the
2:09:28
guy on the outside and not the guy in the match. But uh,
2:09:35
other than that, yeah, I said it was one of the mill.
2:09:37
It didn't have the same level of drama as previous blood lineerrations. Again,
2:09:43
they're still in the proved phase and they're probably going to remain in that phase
2:09:48
until they ultimately end up feuding with the actual original bloodline. Some people speculated
2:09:56
that we might see Roman to night. I didn't think that was gonna happen.
2:10:00
No, I mean, granted his father, his father is passing aside,
2:10:05
I didn't think it was going to happen at this Like, Roman ain't
2:10:07
coming back for money in the bank. He coming back for SummerSlam if he
2:10:11
comes back, not not not the beat here p l e s. Other
2:10:18
than that, Yeah, wait, were you what were your thoughts? You
2:10:20
know, I was interested and seeing how well Solo does without Paul Hamon,
2:10:28
without Roman, reigns without Jimmy or Jay. This is this is now solo
2:10:37
solo, right, this is him with his own blood line. Now,
2:10:39
this is now. Now the old blood line is completely gone with with Paul
2:10:43
Hamon being the last one of the remaining O G blood line, they're gone.
2:10:48
Now this is solo and and his cruise is how he's gonna run things.
2:10:54
And I didn't I knew all four were going to be out. We
2:11:00
didn't know exactly who was gonna be in the match. And yeah, it
2:11:03
shows why they did really showcase Jacob Fattu a bit in the ring, shown
2:11:13
his in ring skills. I think it was cool seeing him match up with
2:11:18
like Orton for a little bit because I'm thinking of Orton with Umaga, Like
2:11:24
I'm getting flashbacks and Morton, you know, facing Umaga, and I was
2:11:28
like, oh man, I'm getting those kind of Umaga vibes out of Jacob.
2:11:35
I know, I don't know a lot about these guys, but I
2:11:37
am very excited to see where they go, and I think they're gonna be
2:11:41
Like when I see them stand there, when I see their presence, when
2:11:43
I see the way they move in the ring, it reminds me of the
2:11:46
Shield. When they were young. I feel like these guys are going to
2:11:50
be big, all of them. It's just gonna take a little bit more
2:11:54
time in the WWE to be big in this company, to be big to
2:11:58
us people who don't know them very well. And I mean these guys,
2:12:03
I mean Jacob Fottu's first w W match was on a pay per view in
2:12:07
a main event. I mean that, and he stepping in the ring with
2:12:13
you know and his own Yeah, Like that's awesome, That's awesome. Like
2:12:18
okay, man, I'm on board, Like I'm on over this whole blood
2:12:22
line thing. I don't I'm not gonna. I don't think I'm gonna overlook
2:12:28
these guys. And you know, I think I'm gonna think of them as
2:12:31
a legit threat, you know, like a threat to anybody who stands in
2:12:37
their way. And and this shows it. I will say I was thinking
2:12:45
and I still think it's coming. I just thought it was gonna be tonight
2:12:48
or that night. Orton's gonna turn dude. The way he looks at Cody,
2:12:52
the way he looks at that title, it's coming. I don't know,
2:12:58
Yeah, but there's an r KO coming for for Cody. Uh At
2:13:03
the last p l e. He the way he looked at that that that
2:13:07
title when he came out to help Cody, The way he looked at Cody
2:13:11
after this loss. Uh, the you know, the subtle of small things
2:13:20
like this, you know, just like John Cena is like some of these
2:13:24
guys we've known for so many years, but they're very predictable. And I
2:13:28
and I know the viper, you know. You know he's gonna strike,
2:13:31
just like Kevin Owens. Man. I don't fucking trust Kevin Owens at any
2:13:35
point that man will turn on you, you know. And just like Raymond
2:13:39
Stereo. Dude, anybody who who's befriends Raymond Stereo, Ray's gonna get turned
2:13:45
on. Like He's like, come on, dude, Like you can't trust
2:13:50
Ko, you can't trust Orton. He's the viper man, Like, I
2:13:54
won't be surprised that they turn on each other. Uh, but yeah,
2:14:00
Orton's gonna somehow, some way, Ko, r Ko Cody Roads, We're
2:14:05
gonna get that feud. Oh yeah, I think you can pretty much ink
2:14:11
that in for some point in twenty twenty twenty five. To me, the
2:14:15
only question is is it is Randy Orton versus Cody of Rhodes. Is it
2:14:20
a rumble match or is it a WrestleMania match. I don't. I don't
2:14:26
see WrestleMania. I think that's something that they would that's a winter something the
2:14:31
winner. I see that after Summer Slam. I see that. You know,
2:14:37
you think it's gonna happen sooner. I think it's gonna happen sooner.
2:14:41
I think with guys like Orton, time is a factor. I think time
2:14:46
is a factor with guys like Orton. I who knows. Maybe there's a
2:14:54
very good possibility if they were to drop the title from Cody. It could
2:14:58
be Jordan. What a pay per view in Georgia. So I gotta figure
2:15:05
Cody's gonna hang on the bad blood. Yeah, there could be some bad
2:15:11
blood between these two. Maybe you lost us a fucking match, man,
2:15:18
you lost a match running in the bank. I can see things stacking up
2:15:22
until then. Sure, sure, I'm only thinking is just that the match
2:15:28
of that magnitude, to me, seems like it would be a Big four
2:15:35
pl kind of match, and Survivor Series is pretty much monopolized by the Blood
2:15:41
by War Games now. Now, maybe there would be space for it on
2:15:46
Svivor series. If Cody and them are not involved in the War Games match
2:15:50
itself, but that's still TBD depending on how this is gonna work out,
2:15:56
because I mean, I think we all kind of agree that it's almost certainly
2:16:01
that the bloodline is going to be in the Four Games match for a three
2:16:07
pet assuming that it happens again at Survivor Series, which I don't see the
2:16:09
reason why wouldn't why it wouldn't, but that has proven successful the last two
2:16:16
times. Are we really putting the WWE title on a pedestal higher than the
2:16:22
world title to the point where it's like it has to be lost at a
2:16:26
Big four? Is that is that where we're putting it? Like because of
2:16:31
Cody? I mean, I think that's one. I don't know that it
2:16:33
can only be lost in a Big four, but I think it's absolutely on
2:16:37
a pedestal above the World everyweight championship. Yeah, yeah, it's that.
2:16:39
Yeah, agreed. It's definitely on a pedestal above the world headweight championship.
2:16:43
Whether it's so high that it has to be lost at a Big four,
2:16:48
I don't know that we've put it there. I think the WWE has put
2:16:50
it there. Yeah, Okay, Like I mean granted it's been monopolized by
2:16:54
Roman for the last three years, but part of that run is l mad
2:17:00
this title to the point to where, yeah, it seems like it's not
2:17:03
something that's gonna get lost at a pl other than a Big four. You
2:17:11
know, we did all this build up into Cody. Now, obviously they
2:17:15
can always choose to break this whenever they want to, but they put all
2:17:18
this build up in the Cody finally finishing the story and winning this title,
2:17:22
you know, a story that was two years in the making, just for
2:17:26
him to drop it at fast Lane. Fuck like that that I just don't
2:17:35
I don't see. And now and again, I'm also looking at the competitors
2:17:41
in the match, Randy Yorton versus Cody, That's a dream match at this
2:17:45
point. You know, this ain't the Saint Dashing Cody with legend killer Randy.
2:17:50
This is og Hall of Famer, you know, first Battle Hall of
2:17:54
Famer Cody, I mean sah Randy taking on face of the company, Cody
2:18:01
Roads. Now, So to me, that alone makes it, you know,
2:18:05
big four level match, which is why I would think I think it
2:18:11
would probably be a rumble match, but I could see them dragging it out
2:18:16
to WrestleMania, potentially depending on, as always what the Rock does. Yeah,
2:18:28
but anyway you said, I'm sorry, I was just gonna say that
2:18:33
My last point on this match is the biggest compliment I could probably give it
2:18:37
to Jacob Watu and his performance in this match, is that watching this match,
2:18:41
all I could keep thinking of myself was there is money in a Jacob
2:18:46
Fatu and Kevin Owen's future. That's exactly what there is. Money in that
2:18:52
ship right there. I was like, Wayne's talking about Randy versus Jacob Fatu,
2:18:56
and I'm like, man, Ko versus they seem so similar. Yeah,
2:19:05
I think I thought Randy and Toma Tonga actually had decent chemistry. I
2:19:09
think they might have a fun match, But I think I think Ko Jacob
2:19:16
Fatu is gonna be epic. Yeah. Yeah, that that that you're right
2:19:22
about. That that has multiple p l e few potential of these two guys.
2:19:28
These two like the Fighter versus the Werewolf. I guess what they call
2:19:35
them fat too, But you know, those two just absolutely go into war
2:19:39
with each other and just have each other every match. We're gonna get other
2:19:45
iterations in this on the way to Hummerslam too. We're gonna get Ko and
2:19:48
Randy versus you know, Jacob Fato and Toma Tonga some that you know,
2:19:54
Like, so we haven't seen the last of these six interacting and in different
2:20:00
combinations or whatever or seven. Uh yeah, I think that to continue for
2:20:05
sure. Yeah, yeah, definitely there there's still more time for this to
2:20:11
happen until you know, I'm working off the assumption that these are the ones
2:20:16
that they're essentially placeholders for now until Roman comes back. And I think once
2:20:22
Roman comes back, obviously we're getting bloodlined on Bloodline, but in between,
2:20:26
in the meantime, in between time, Yeah, there is money to be
2:20:31
had in this, and I could I could see again, I think that
2:20:35
there the feud has multiple pod potential, Like we can get a couple of
2:20:39
these matches and they could just build up and build up and be bangers every
2:20:46
time. I could see Jacob pot two versus Kevin Owens one on one in
2:20:50
SummerSlam. But I could also see Ko and Randy versus Toma Tonga and Toga
2:20:58
Loa or some other variant as well, because I'll be at some point.
2:21:07
It's right now, it's four on three. So Coding Dom either got to
2:21:09
find a fourth to join in with them or something, because you know,
2:21:13
Tonga just can't be the man on the outside too long. He at some
2:21:16
point he got to get in there and start throwing some hands too. And
2:21:20
Jacob definitely seems like more of a one v one kind of guy, whereas
2:21:26
the Tongas would be the tag team of this particular sable. And who knows
2:21:33
now that we got now that the world tag titles are on a baby face
2:21:37
team, that could be primed. As much as I hate to do it
2:21:41
to di Y, they could be primed for the ones to you know,
2:21:45
job out to the bloodline. Yeah, I mean talk about like the Tongas
2:21:52
are or were a tag team, right, And it's kind of a tale
2:21:56
of two matches. The first half was kind of a classic tag match,
2:22:01
and then the second half was just like a or for black of a better
2:22:05
word, you know. So I mean, I think you're gonna see all
2:22:09
of that, And you know, because these guys can all do all kinds
2:22:13
of different things. They can do the brawls, they can do a more
2:22:16
scientific match, they can work a straight up tag match. So yeah,
2:22:20
I think you get a lot of combinations of guys here, and they can
2:22:24
do a lot of different things, which is good because I think we're gonna
2:22:28
get a lot of it. We're gonna a lot of these guys wrestle on
2:22:31
each other in various combinations and shit. So but yeah, I'm really looking
2:22:35
forward to that whenever day comes when it's Ko versus Jacob Pott too, and
2:22:41
I hope it's a pay per view match and not like a random SmackDown.
2:22:46
Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's the best thing that the Bloodline has going
2:22:50
for him right now is the fact that they're not feuding with any big carters.
2:22:54
They're just going straight toe to toe with all the beta winters due been
2:22:58
so pissed, and they signed Jacob fat too because he's basically him but better
2:23:03
better at least, was what everybody says. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
2:23:11
hell, the pressure's on Solo. I mean, if that's how people
2:23:13
are seeing, are seeing this, and people are pitching this then now,
2:23:18
Granted, from my perspective, I don't see it yet because granted I've only
2:23:22
seen Jacob Fatsu once and just his presentation in the ring, which kind of
2:23:28
irks me, is in fact, he's still playing that that that savage look
2:23:33
to him, like he always has that look on his face, which it
2:23:37
is obviously a callback to simone heritage, because you know, Simon's always had
2:23:41
that look on their face, that that savage, wild look about him,
2:23:45
and he's doing that same thing. But I don't know, sometimes just seeing
2:23:50
it too much, it's just kind of like, you know, you can
2:23:54
just look like and have a straight face. You ain't got to look like.
2:23:58
You know, English is a language you're still learning. You can be
2:24:05
intimidating while just looking straight face without I don't know. Again, that's just
2:24:11
a most minor of gripes in the grand scheme of things. But at this
2:24:16
point, yeah, Solo is still look just looking at the four of them,
2:24:20
he clearly comes off in comparison to the other four, the other three,
2:24:24
as the clear leader. Now doing that in the grand scope of everybody
2:24:30
else on the roster, Yeah, he's got work to do to you know,
2:24:35
have that type of aura in presence about himself, but at least within
2:24:39
his faction, he comes off as the clear leader. Jacob Batu isn't at
2:24:45
that point, at least with me yet where I look at him like,
2:24:46
oh that's the dude that could take your spot. I don't see it as
2:24:50
yet. Any other final thoughts on this match or the things going forward,
2:25:01
I'm pretty good. All right, Well, that pretty much wraps it up
2:25:09
for this one. I mean, obviously, nothing nothing on this show really
2:25:13
happened that was too surprising to any of us. I think it all pretty
2:25:18
much went according to plan, which you know, I think it's kind of
2:25:22
become a bit formulake with WWE is their final pls going into the bigger ones.
2:25:28
It's like, Okay, we're using this one to set up the big
2:25:33
one that's coming next month, and that seems kind of what this one is.
2:25:37
You know, bloodline is set up with the solo pin over Cody obviously
2:25:41
setting up there match at Summer Slam. Tiffany's got the money in the bank
2:25:46
briefcase, which is potentially setting her up for Summer Slam cashing or setting her
2:25:52
up for whatever her dynamic maybe with Nia jacks coming out of Summer Slam again,
2:26:00
assuming that or presuming if Nia Jackson worts to defeat Bailey. Obviously,
2:26:03
we got punkin and Drew on a collision course seemingly because I would expect that
2:26:13
at any point now, Uh, punk is gonna get clear. He's gonna
2:26:18
announce that he's cleared to wrestle again. So yeah, now it's just uh,
2:26:24
what three weeks till Summer Slam, Yes, yea and Furious it really
2:26:31
has been Jesus, like, what was it? What was it? Clash
2:26:35
that was just two three weeks ago. That's yeah, that is crazy if
2:26:43
you think about it, fucking three pls in less than two months, just
2:26:50
pumping out episodes. Yeah, I mean, and then Bashing Berlin is also
2:26:56
in August, but then there isn't one in some time up and there's like
2:27:01
five weeks between. So they decided to take September off, which I you
2:27:07
know what, I'm not That kind of makes sense because you know, September
2:27:11
is going to be the start of football season in college football, and everybody's
2:27:16
focus is gonna shift to that in the beginning. So yeah, it makes
2:27:20
sense if they decided to take that month off, let everybody get there,
2:27:22
look at the get their dopamine fixed from football, and then come back in
2:27:26
October when you're in the midst of the season and everybody settled in yep,
2:27:31
and that we can release an odd episode on maybe some of these ww films.
2:27:39
So fill our slots with something else, so we'll always have episodes.
2:27:43
People don't worry. It's ship to do. Uh With that said, Dre,
2:27:52
uh, tell people about the new Instagram camp. Yep, yep,
2:27:56
yep. We do finally have an Instagram account, so y'all can follow us
2:28:03
at Instagram dot com. Slash Podcast Championship Wrestling Sweet. Yeah. I send
2:28:15
over some pictures from our wrestle media weekend to put up on that. I
2:28:18
thought that'd be cool. Yeah. I was like, I'm just gonna send
2:28:24
them all at once, as I was like, I'm not gonna say,
2:28:28
I'm just gonna send a bunch of picks. So and uh, Duel,
2:28:33
how's the Facebook page coming along? Oh it's great. Yeah, the likes,
2:28:39
the likes are coming so fast and furious. I can barely came up
2:28:43
with them. Yeah. I I just tried to because I run our Twitter
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account. I try to be active when we're watching wrestling. That's probably like
2:28:54
the best time for me to be active anyway. And then I mean,
2:29:00
I mean, I I kind of like it though, because, like I
2:29:01
said, I added, like almost every wrestler I could find under the sunh
2:29:07
that I like that. I like? Yeah, so but uh yeah,
2:29:13
Dre Do you wanna plug anything? Do you wanna work? Can people?
2:29:16
Where can people find you? I think is that? The big thing to
2:29:20
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review, please recommend it. I think that'd be cool. Maybe there's one
2:30:20
we're not even thinking about. So all right, guys, what that said,
2:30:24
let's dip on out of here. Oh actually, I'm just gonna use
2:30:28
this one. My bye, bitch, you are the world's dumbest sign up
2:30:43
a bitch fat that day in and day out for almost six years, I
2:30:48
improved everybody in the world that I am the best on this microphone. Isn't
2:30:54
that break given a commentary? Nobody can touch me you because there's street perfect
2:31:05
And we watched the sum your nest, talk about your songs, talk about
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John three sixteen. Amstead three sixteen says I just whipped your ass. Well,
2:31:22
let me tell you, fucking brother, far New Day Queen, Friends
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to the Top, Oh year, my true man. Listen, Welcome to
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the Top and Owen Show. Lately he just hasn't been Harry Housey because I'm
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this and I'm ah those Broughten Rost Bye bye. It's