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CELEBRITY ATHLETE Reveals The MINDSET You Need To WIN IN LIFE · INSPIRE STORY

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Speaker 1: I can show to the world that you know, a
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kid from you know, war torn country can actually be
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the best in a sport that is very global. That's
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what happened. That all of these experiences have been there
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for a reason. And I don't regret anything, I don't
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pity anything.
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Speaker 2: I just feel like that's something that I have to
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go through.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's so beautiful that you are mentoring
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other Serbian talents this place, because I think that's what
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everyone needs. They need a guide in hand, they need
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someone's being there. We need to share, absolutely, yeah, And
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I think so much of the time we live in
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this scarcity mindset. Even with the deals, people say things like, oh,
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it's good for you right now, but it might not
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be later to make the most of it, and then
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that intention is fueling people through, you know, greedy mentality.
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Speaker 2: It's got Now is the time you've got to use
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it otherwise, you know.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know because I've been and still trying
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to learn how to manage this myself, because I have
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also lots of opportunities and being number one of the
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world and tennis is a global sport and everything, but
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you know, I'm kind of going through this this kind
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of centering process of understanding what I need to you know,
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do in order to organize my life better, in order
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to focus on what is the most important, you know,
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aspect of my existence here, you know, the the inner piece,
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you know, the spiritual growth, the understanding of self, and and.
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Speaker 2: Of course the family, the close ones. But you know,
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for for for most.
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Speaker 1: Of my careers about tennis all the time, you know,
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so tennis, tennis, tennis, and then my ego.
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Speaker 2: Plays with me so much. I mean, it plays with.
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Speaker 1: All of us, you know, absolutely, But you know it's
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I've been I've been thinking, firstly that ego is the enemy,
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but actually now I'm I'm kind of more leaning towards
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the theory that lead that ego is is should be befriended.
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Speaker 2: You know, it should be you know, part of your.
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Speaker 1: Process of thinking of feeling. And in this way, you're
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also disarming your ego in a way, right, rather than
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kind of trying to reject it.
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Speaker 2: And then you're creating this and.
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Speaker 1: This is so much you know, what we're actually going
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through in an outside world as well, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So let me introduce you and then I'll explain why
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I did it. I think it makes sense. Hey, everyone,
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thank you so much for coming back for this very
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very special episode. I'm genuinely so honored and grateful to
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introduce our next guest. Not only is he the number
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one tennis player in the world, he has fourteen Grand
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Slam titles, including four Wimbledons, But on top of all
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of that, he's extremely spiritual and incredible healer, transformer and
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someone who's doing so much great work in the world.
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I've had the pleasure of getting to know him over
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Instagram and WhatsApp, and today I get to sit down
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with him for the first time. But he's definitely someone
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who's attracted me here to Monaco through his energy and
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through his incredibly humble and graceful spirit. So Novak, it
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is an absolute pleasure with you, my friend, my friend.
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Speaker 4: And I feel your energy over what's up on Instagram.
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I feel it in front of you right now, and
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I really believe that we've just been pulled together, so
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so good. I mean, thank you so much for coming
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to see me here.
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Speaker 1: I'm really honored, And it's as you said, you know,
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social media was the platform through which we established the
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first connection. But I feel like, you know, watching you
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and what you do and sharing your message. I felt
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connected with you instantly, and your message deeply resonates with
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me with people that are close to me.
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Speaker 2: And it's a dream come true to be with you
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here today.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: You're the sweetest man, and I genuinely feel that when
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you have a good and anyone who's listening, I highly
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recommend this. If you have a good online connection with someone,
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take it offline as quick as you can. Yes, like
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turn it into face to face. And that's what I
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saw that we were connecting so beautifully. I remember one
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of the first things you said to me was higher
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forces are connecting us, like higher forces are between us
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getting connected. And when you said that to me, I
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just felt I have to meet you. There's no need
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to keep this relationship online. There's no need to just
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have it here. If this is someone who truly believes
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there's a deeper connection here, let's let's get together, let's
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see each other. So I'm so grateful that you opened
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up this opportunity for me to visit you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and I'm really grateful that and generally,
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you know, honored that you guys came all the way
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from la you know, it's a long trip, and I
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think we, you know, we all share a common kind
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of vision and compassion for you know, for the world,
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and we I think we all interact, you know, with
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the world in very similar ways, even though we you know,
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I'm an athlete, but I don't like to categorize or
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label myself as an athlete, you know, as society likes.
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Speaker 2: I think we we expand much more than that.
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Speaker 1: And social media and internet is great if you use
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it in the right way.
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Speaker 2: So I feel like it's a it's a great.
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Speaker 1: Platform, and it got us connected and we're here today
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and not a while ago.
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Speaker 2: I've sent you a message on Instagram because I'm I'm
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your fan.
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Speaker 1: I follow, of course, I follow your message, and I
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follow your energy and everything that you've been spreading and
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sharing with people. So I'm just happy to to get
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deep and talk about, you know, things that I usually.
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Speaker 2: Don't get asked on the tennis tournament. So it's it's
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really exciting.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, and that's what I love about you, and
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that's what I'm excited if everyone is listening and watching,
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is that you are an athlete. But what I was
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saying to you earlier is you are so much more,
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and you have so much more to give. You've worked
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so hard on the court. But what I love about
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you is that you're also an inner athlete, Like you're
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doing this inner work and you've really focused on growing yourself,
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healing yourself, working on yourself. So let's dive into all
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of that today. Make this the interview where you. Make
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this the interview where you get to talk about everything
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that's important to you. And that's why this podcast actually started.
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I was speaking at an event last year and Tom
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Brady was speaking before me, and he was interviewed by
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a sports journalist and the confidence was actually about building
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meaningful lives, so I was asked to speak about that topic.
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Tom was speaking before and the interviewer asked him a
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question and Tom started speaking about his family. He started
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talking about being a father, He started talking about all
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these beautiful values and responsibilities and how he's growing now
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that his sports career is coming to you know, a
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natural end, etc. And the sports journalist just said and
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they said, Tom, leave all this soft stuff. Let's talk
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about the sports. And I felt so bad for him
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because I just felt like he was really trying to
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open up his heart and the sports journalist was almost
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just squashing all of that and saying, let's just talk
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about your rings, like let's talk about the medals. And
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so I wanted to build a platform where people like
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yourself and people from music, media, movies, film, everyone can
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actually come and talk about your deeper sides and your
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real heart. So I want you to feel really comfortable
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to be able to do that today.
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Speaker 2: I am very much in you.
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Speaker 1: Were definitely one of the very few people that in
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my life and that I've known you know thus far,
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and of course that I'm following that I can share
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this message with.
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Speaker 2: And I truly mean.
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Speaker 1: That because and I don't mean that in a bad
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way for the society. I'm not judging. I don't like
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the judgment. I don't like that, you know, the word
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hatred or anything like that. You know, I respect everyone,
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and I respect also this kind of moment in time
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that we as people are, you know, and our society
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is where it is with the reason and we just
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have to go through that stage of development, I think,
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and an evolution. And it took me time to really,
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I feel like, come to that understanding in a way
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because I was also for many years through my character
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building process and spiritual development and kind of opening my
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mind to different dimensions and horizons of you know, self
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awareness and self care. I was just feeling a lot
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of times lonely, you know, and I just felt like
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what I was doing was not understood, especially in my world,
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and not just understood, but it was not accepted, which
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was even worse because then, you know, you're labeled as
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a kind of like a black sheep, you know, in
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the herd. And but I still wanted to play tennis
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and still stay in that, in that in that sport,
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in that uh you know, field of life which I have,
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and I'm not you know, regretting contrary, I'm so blessed
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to do what I love. I've started playing tennis when
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I was four years old, and my family did not
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have any tennis traditions, so it was literally a sign
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of a destiny. Three tennis courts in front of my
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parents restaurant in a small mountain place in Serbia called Coponic.
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My father was sorry, but giving you a little background,
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was a professional skier. He was a skiing instructor. That's
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how he met my mom on the skiing slope. And
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you know, it's a funny story you know, she kind
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of like tell us she you know, she she she
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was skiing and then she fell. And then he was
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there and he's like, you know, you didn't help. I
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didn't I think I can help you.
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Speaker 3: And he probably.
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Speaker 1: Organized the whole thing, you know, But but you know
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it's they met, and you know, they they you know,
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six months later they got they got married, and I
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was already my mom was pregnant with me, and and
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then a year later they opened a restaurant in the
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very mountain where they met, and that's the restaurant was
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the business that generated the you know, the budget for
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our family. So we spent a lot of time there
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because we lived three hours by car away in the
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capital city of Serbia, Belgrade, where I went to school.
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And my two younger brothers have two younger brothers. Their
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names are Marco and Georgia. They're one is four years
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old younger than me, and the other one is eight
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years younger than me. And this is like we talked about,
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you know, my children and the Indigo children and a
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kind of like a new wave of you know, energy and.
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Speaker 2: Conscienceness and awareness that we're receiving from above.
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Speaker 1: Through children that already have you know what we don't have,
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you know, And that's what I see in my brother,
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you know, And and he's been born with this capacity
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and ability to just multitask and deal with things so
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successfully and still be happy. And it's it's quite amazing. So,
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you know, going back to my story is you know,
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I've felt.
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Speaker 2: That in my world tennis.
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Speaker 1: I just when you're a professional athlete, you know, it's
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all about winning or losing, right, I just I don't
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see losing or failure as as such. I see it
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as another great lesson that waits for me to learn from.
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Speaker 3: Do you always have that even when you were young?
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Speaker 2: No, I just as I said, I went through my evolution, and.
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Speaker 1: I was fortunate really that when I started playing tennis,
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I ran into and came across some really really knowledgeable
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people about tennis and about life in particular. One woman,
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and her name is Yelling again, chicch she's not with
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us anymore.
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Speaker 2: She passed away twenty twelve. She was my tennis mother.
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Speaker 1: And so my parents, you know, invested a lot of
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energy and efforts in those times. During nineties when I
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was growing up, we had two wars. We had unfortunately
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War that broke down the whole Yugoslavian region because it
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was a big Yugoslavian country, very strong, made of you know,
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six different states, I mean countries that are right now independent.
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Speaker 2: I'm coming from one of them, which is Serbia.
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Speaker 1: And then during nineties, from like ninety one, ninety two
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all the way to two thousand, we had embargo, so
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people waiting in line for bread and milk and like
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absolutely most you know, necessary things. And then ninety nine
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we had in Serbia, we had bombings for two and
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a half months, every single day and night.
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Speaker 2: I was there, my family was there, every single day.
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Speaker 1: We woke up every night for two and a half
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months because of the alarm, because of the planes flying
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over us.
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Speaker 2: And it was devastating, It was frightening.
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Speaker 1: It was worst thing that definitely, you know, we ever experienced,
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you know, seeing planes over your head and just dropping
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bombs and you know, hospitals and everything.
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Speaker 2: It was just terrible. Many innocent people died.
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Speaker 1: Thankfully, I didn't lose personally anyone that is very close
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to me. But I know people that lost, you know,
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their loved ones, and that's a scar that stays with
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you forever. So this memory stays and will stay with
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me forever. But at the beginning, I felt like probably
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most of the people in our country, I felt, I
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want revenge, you know, I felt like, you know, who
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are these guys, two bomb innocent people?
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Speaker 2: What the hell is going on?
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Speaker 1: I was twelve years old, and I remember I was
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there day night and I celebrated my twelfth birth day
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during the day because we didn't go to schools obviously,
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it was just hiding in shelters and everything. And then
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we just after a week or two hiding in shelters,
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we just said, okay, we're just gonna, you know, go
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about our life and that's it. You know, we don't
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We're not gonna care what happens if you.
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Speaker 2: Know, if we're hit, we're hit. You know what we
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can do? I mean.
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Speaker 1: And so I remember on my twelfth birthday, kids were
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singing my friends at the tennis club, because we spend
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a lot of times playing tennis. We we didn't go
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to school, so for us it was great. And then
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we they were singing the Happy Birthday song and it
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was a plane flying and I have this image of
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mine plane and just kind of dropping bombs everywhere, and
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it was terrible, but at the same time, I felt
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like as I was kind of growing, you know, inside
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out as well, I felt and I think my parents
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helped me a lot with that, is that they you know,
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we can't judge the whole nation or everyone for the
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actions of certain individuals or certain groups or institutions or
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whatever that decided to bomb our country and just kill
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innocent people.
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Speaker 2: We can't, you know, judge everyone for that, you know.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's when I kind of like shifted and
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I just I write, you know, this moment, absolutely forgiven
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everyone and everything that have done that, but you cannot
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forget that, you know, you cannot forget that. It stays,
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as I said, as a car. But it has, on
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a brighter side, brought a lot of value to my
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life and a lot of appreciation for the value I
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felt like this experience. I'm so grateful for this experience,
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I truly am, because it has helped me to shape
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me into the person that I am today, the player
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tennis player that I am.
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Speaker 2: It has made me hungrier.
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Speaker 1: For the success in tennis, made me hungrier to work, train,
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build myself so I can show to the world that
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you know, a kid from you know, war torn country
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can actually be the best in a sport that is
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very global and uh and and.
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Speaker 2: So that's that's what happened.
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Speaker 1: But all of these experiences have definitely been there for
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a reason. And I I don't regret anything, I don't
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pity anything.
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Speaker 2: I just feel like, Okay, you know, that's that's my karma.
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Speaker 1: You know, that's something that I had to go through
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and I had to live that, and and and and
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if we managed to get through that as not just
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as a family, but as people as a nation, you know,
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there's there's not much that it can break you down.
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So in historically, you know, Serbian people and people in
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the region have have had a lot of you know,
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hard wars and ships and and and they've been through that.
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So it's it's really it was really nice to see
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the the unity with people.
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Speaker 2: And I remember one of them.
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Speaker 1: I was actually talking the other day with my brother
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and my wife about still reflecting on that period and
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what was the strongest image that stayed with us from
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the bombings of two and a half months in ninety nine,
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and one of them for me was obviously the one
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that I explained to you that with the birthday and
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shelters but there was.
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Speaker 2: One where I remember.
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Speaker 1: Thousands of people gathering on the bridge, one of the
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most important bridges in our city, with shirts that have
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targets there, and everyone painted their heads with target, like
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in the shape of a target and singing songs and
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you know, kind of just enjoying.
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Speaker 2: Having fun and in a way showing to the world.
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Speaker 1: And to whoever is you know, you know, kind of
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dropping bombs that we are the target. So we are
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protecting this bridge, we are protecting this this city.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you want to crash it, you have
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to go through us.
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Speaker 1: And and it was I think more than that, it
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was just that that that that power of unity, you know,
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that that energy and that strength that they just showed
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the resilience, and that was beautiful, you know, in those
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moments of Hartship.
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Speaker 3: That's incredible. Man, that's that's such a I've heard you
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tell that story. No no, and I'm glad no, and
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no no, I'm glad you did because I've heard that
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story before. I'm glad that everyone who hasn't heard that
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story before has an opportunity now. And the reason why
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it's so beautiful is because that's probably like most of
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the planet does not experience that. That's that's pretty extreme, yes, right,
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And so for someone like you to come from that extreme,
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and especially what you said your initial response was revenge.
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For you to be able to transform that revenge into resilience,
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that's incredible because it would have been so much easier
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to just have that pain and have that unforgiveness.
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Speaker 2: And so there was a great story that that I've read.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's quite popular on the social media. Everyone
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is sharing it. It was about the snake and the
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and the saw. I don't know if you came across
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it and you know the snakes.
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Speaker 2: It's a true story.
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Speaker 1: Actually, the snake came into the carpenter's shop and as
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it was kind of going and it got caught by
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the saw, and the saw kind of cut it, and
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the snake didn't realize what was happening, so it went
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to bite to yeah, to bite the saw, and it
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hurt itself even more so the snake didn't know what
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was happening, so it's started going around the saw in
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order to you know, suffocate it, thinking that Saul.
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Speaker 2: Is attacking it.
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Speaker 1: So it was you know, protecting itself, and finally snake
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died and and this kind of translates into life. And
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it's so many times that we get angry or upset,
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you know, with some people thinking that we want to
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hurt them because we feel hurt, but it finally we're
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hurting ourselves. And it was such a deep message that
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I kind of like resonated with really, and I think
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that kind of sums.
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Speaker 2: Up my evolution in a way and.
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Speaker 1: My growth mentally of how, you know, I should deal
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with these particular circumstances and any events that have been
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quite significant in my life, and you know, the wars
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and those times of you know, hardships were definitely one
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of the most significant times of my life and my
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career where I experienced what it feels like to literally
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have ten dollars.
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Speaker 2: At home in the apartment with you know, for my
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father and my mother with.
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Speaker 1: Three children to feed, and having to wait in the
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line to get a piece of bread for hours, and
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not being able to travel around the world to play tennis,
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and tennis is his expensive sport. Absolutely, you know, you
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need money to pay for the recket, for the tennis balls,
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for the coach, for the court, so all of these things,
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you know, and and they I think in the end
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of the day, As I said, it brings it brings
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light and value to my life because you know, I
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think going through all of that has made me stronger
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but at the same time made me more grateful because
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I understand the both extremes, so to say, because today
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I really I enjoy so much of you know, success
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in this you know, society and sport, and I can
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afford many things, and I'm really really grateful for that
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and blessed.
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Speaker 2: But I've been on the the opposite side.
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Speaker 1: So I think that that storyline is really something that
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enriches me.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, and your life story is such a beautiful
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message of the world. It's a great message to the world.
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Like it's incredible, and I'm glad that I see when
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from the way I view it, you live it like
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a message too. It's not about you. That's why I
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feel when I'm with you that it's not about you.
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It's not like I did this. It's actually a story
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and a message to the world that you know, any child,
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any person who is in such abject conditions can actually
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transform their lives.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, And I just feel like, you know,
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the message I can share from my experience and I
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don't want ever for people to feel that I'm preaching
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or anything like that. I just feel like my experience
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has helped me to reach you know, certain success if
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you want to call it, you know, in both professional
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and private way, is that there is always time for everything.
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And you know, I've I've learned myself even today, how
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to be patient, how to how to you know, coordinate
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certain things in my life, how.
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Speaker 2: To create space for the biggest.
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Speaker 1: Quality time that I can have with my priorities, which
23:15
are my family, which is my growth.
23:18
Speaker 2: And it's and it's a constant juggle, and then you can't,
23:21
you can't.
23:21
Speaker 1: I truly believe in balance, but I don't believe that
23:26
we can ever reach a stage and or point where
23:29
we can say I'm in balance and you can be
23:32
in balanced, but the next moment you're not in balance,
23:34
because that's life and everything is moving and it's happening.
23:38
So so that's that's why I feel like and through tennis,
23:42
I've learned my you know, biggest and hardest lessons in
23:45
life and I've experienced those those emotions and for me,
23:49
you know, tennis court is still a field, you know,
23:55
where where I have a chance to grow really and
23:58
I I when I'm not on a tennis court, I
24:01
find it much easier to accomplish certain things that that
24:07
I want to on a daily basis. But then tennis
24:10
court I use as exactly that platform that challenges me
24:14
and challenges my ego. So I still have, for example,
24:17
outbursts on the court. I break a record, I scream,
24:20
I curse. I know you don't curse it. I add
24:23
that amazing that you to that vow. You've got to
24:26
teach me how to do that, and and and and
24:30
so when that happens, instantly I feel like, oh my god,
24:33
why what did I do?
24:35
Speaker 2: You know? And I have two children. You know, many
24:39
children around the.
24:40
Speaker 1: World are watching and and and and you know, seeing
24:43
what you're doing and imitating you in a way.
24:46
Speaker 2: So you're sending that kind of message.
24:47
Speaker 1: So I try always to have that in back on
24:49
my mind, and you know, subconsciously like, okay, you know,
24:54
try to do you know, what you do best, but
24:56
do it with dignity, do it with style, do it,
24:58
you know, with always having you know, that kind of
25:02
inner voice telling you you know, there's thousands, you know
25:07
of children around the world watching you play right now,
25:10
and absorbing like a sponge. Every move, everything you say,
25:14
everything you do. But it's I still do it. I
25:18
still go through this outburst. And I I've felt disappointed
25:24
with myself for a while because of that. I really
25:27
felt like I was betraying myself. I was not managing
25:31
to h.
25:32
Speaker 2: To do what I intended to do.
25:35
Speaker 1: And uh and and then I learned about surrender and
25:39
uh and then I learned about there is a time
25:42
for everything in life, and there is a reason why
25:46
we have to take every step of the way in
25:48
order to reach the top of in whatever way you
25:52
you you feel that top is for you, and uh
25:55
and I and then I understood that you know, I
25:58
have to accept, I have to embrace, I have to
26:02
channel it and understand that.
26:05
Speaker 2: You know, I still have to.
26:06
Speaker 1: Work, and I have to work all the way to
26:08
the last day that I that I breathe and and
26:11
and I'm happy with that. I really feel like I
26:14
managed to take that positive leap in that direction.
26:19
Speaker 3: What you you've touched on a few times, then I
26:21
want to dive into it deeply. You mentioned success reaching
26:24
the top. The world sees your success, the world sees
26:29
your achievements. But in Novak Jocovits eyes. In your own eyes,
26:33
what's been your greatest success, your greatest achievement so far
26:37
in your perspective.
26:38
Speaker 2: It's a good question. My greatest achievement is my open mind.
26:45
Speaker 1: I feel that with an open MINDNUS type of you know,
26:53
perspective and approach to life, you help all the natural
27:00
processes in yourself to flourish and to excel. And you're
27:07
embracing the natural flow of life where you have to
27:10
evolve and you have to develop, and you have to learn.
27:13
And I just, if I have to define it that
27:15
kind of shortly, I would say it's it's just open mind,
27:19
because I feel the ignorance and the closed mindness and
27:26
certain convictions that people have are so strong that you know,
27:33
you go through throughout your whole lifetime without really allowing
27:38
you know yourself to open up to the world and
27:42
learn about all these different cultures and things that can
27:46
enrich your life and make you feel more fulfilled and
27:51
live a more fulfilled life, be more joyful, have that
27:57
inner peace and emotional balance and stability that we all
28:00
strive to and and I just feel with an open mind,
28:04
you're just helping yourself and you're able to receive a
28:09
kind of filter and then you know, give at the
28:12
same time, because you know the Torus field, everything has
28:15
to flow, so that's how it flows. But if you
28:17
don't have an open mind, then obviously you're everything closes up,
28:23
whether it's health, whether it's you know, profession, whatever it
28:27
is in your life, it just kind of feels. And
28:29
I was there, I was there. I don't want people
28:32
to think that I know it all or whatever. I
28:35
just feel, you know, also that I'm sharing the experiences
28:39
for my process because I was there. As I said,
28:40
I felt, you know, the resentment, I felt, you know,
28:43
feeling of revenge.
28:45
Speaker 2: I felt hatred, I did, I felt all of that.
28:48
Speaker 1: We all, you know, go through that, We all human beings,
28:51
we you know kind of you know, experience those kind
28:54
of emotions. But I feel with training and repetition and
28:59
discipline that obviously sport has taught me so well, you
29:03
can really reach anything that you truly want in desire
29:08
in your life.
29:09
Speaker 3: And where did that open mindedness start? Like, where did
29:12
you start to notice that the closed mind was limiting
29:15
you and the open mind was expanding?
29:18
Speaker 1: Very early, to be honest, ever since I kind of
29:24
wished to play tennis when I was four or five
29:27
years old, and tennis was never a sport in our family.
29:32
I think, you know, I kind of help also my
29:34
parents to expand, you know, outside of their in a
29:38
way comfort zone and go into the sport or field
29:40
of life that is completely unknown to them in a way.
29:44
And I think that, you know, I started playing tennis
29:48
with four and a half, I think, five years old,
29:50
and before that I was I was skiing a lot.
29:53
And I remember even before I started to run, I
29:58
was already with my dad, you know, skiing. He was
30:01
carrying me and going down the slopes and and so
30:04
the first sport for me was skiing. And until I
30:07
was I think nine years old, I didn't really know
30:10
whether I want.
30:11
Speaker 2: To ski or play tennis.
30:13
Speaker 1: I was football soccer a little bit there, but it
30:16
was mostly about skiing or tennis. And uh and unfortunately,
30:20
I mean, we've been through all this and my father,
30:22
my father asked me, I remember, I remember that that
30:25
day when he set me down with my mom and
30:29
he said, I am ready to support anything that you
30:34
desire to do in your life, and I'm here for you.
30:40
You have to tell me if it's sport, Okay, and
30:44
what sport and uh, and I said, okay, give me
30:49
one day.
30:50
Speaker 2: I needed to know and big decision.
30:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and then you get was taking and
30:56
then I said, like, it didn't take me a long time.
30:58
I thought, I said, maybe just a little time to things.
31:01
But then after half an hour I went to him
31:03
and I said, it's tennis and he said, okay.
31:06
Speaker 2: Tennis it is.
31:07
Speaker 1: And then I think us kind of getting into this
31:13
uncomfortable unknown zone or area or field of life has
31:20
allowed us to kind of expand all of us and
31:23
also having certain mentors and people that have greatly positively
31:30
affected me on many levels. I've mentioned my tennis mother
31:35
as I like to call her, and I've met her
31:38
when I was I think five six years old, and
31:40
then I started training with her tennis camp, summer tennis
31:44
camp that was coming from Belgrade from capital city to
31:48
Coponi displace in the mountains. And then when I was
31:52
I think six seven, I also started having some private
31:56
lessons with her in Belgrade while I was going to school,
32:00
and she was happy to play with me because she
32:03
felt like I was very talented. And then she told
32:07
she told my parents, she said, I really feel like
32:11
you should try to give your best to support this
32:13
child to play tennis, because I've never seen a bigger talent.
32:18
Speaker 2: Than him.
32:19
Speaker 1: From Monica Sellers, who was, you know, obviously the best
32:22
tennis player in the world, one of the best female
32:24
tennis players of all times, and she was her coach
32:27
as well. And because Monica was born in Serbia and
32:30
then she went to live in States where she is today, and.
32:35
Speaker 2: Of course my parents were like, well, if.
32:39
Speaker 1: Such an experience and knowledgeable person about the tennis says that,
32:43
then you know, we should try to support our child.
32:46
So that's what happened. And I remember I was watching,
32:49
you know, tennis practices and sessions on the fence, I
32:52
was climbing. I was really really in love with the sport.
32:54
I was very passionate about it. And she taught me
32:58
about holistic approach to life. I think we already back
33:01
then when I was seven eight. She really told me
33:03
how to, you know, think about the grades in the school,
33:08
the music that I listened to, the mindfulness that I have,
33:13
the observation, the focus, the kindness, the relationship with people.
33:18
Speaker 2: She was working in a team with my parents and
33:21
my parents.
33:23
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really grateful for my parents because they
33:25
recognized the role of a mentor very early.
33:28
Speaker 2: So they kind of teamed up with her.
33:30
Speaker 1: And then you know, I was learning a lot from
33:33
from my parents obviously and continue to learn and from
33:37
my tennis mother. So that has helped me to I
33:40
feel like, be open minded and understand. But I obviously
33:46
went through my phases and you know, through through the
33:48
process of learning and those dealing with those emotions. Although
33:53
I felt when I started traveling by myself, because I
33:56
was traveling with my father until I was I think sixteen,
33:59
and then six seventeen, I started having my coach and
34:02
and and I you know, I didn't get too deep
34:06
in the conversations with my dad and with my mom,
34:08
and I felt there are some subjects and that you know,
34:13
I want to talk about.
34:15
Speaker 2: And especially in.
34:16
Speaker 1: You know, puberty and teenage years, you know, you're you're
34:19
experiencing so many changes and and and I was so
34:23
much in tennis that I didn't really have time for
34:25
for other maybe school activities that my fellow friends and
34:32
you know, students were going through because I was so
34:35
much in tennis.
34:36
Speaker 2: And and then.
34:37
Speaker 1: I started sharing so much with with my coach. I
34:41
think that I remember my dad was like, why don't
34:44
you share that with me? It's like, because I don't.
34:48
I don't feel that. I first of all, I've never
34:51
shared that those particular subjects and types of conversations with you,
34:56
and I don't. I don't feel we can we can
35:00
on that level, and we tried, but it never worked out.
35:04
So but he was understanding and that I also have
35:08
to have, you know, people that are close to me
35:11
and then influenced me on different levels, and that's what
35:14
I feel like.
35:15
Speaker 2: It helped me a lot to develop well.
35:18
Speaker 3: And one of the things I noticed about you is
35:20
also and I'd love to get your thoughts on this.
35:22
I feel like it's tough to get to the top,
35:25
but it seems to be even tougher to get to
35:27
the top, have a slump or have a moment of
35:30
challenge and then try and get back because you've experienced something.
35:35
And it's like, I know that you've even credited your
35:37
wife with her dedication to self care and your work
35:42
and what she's trained you or shared with you in journaling.
35:45
Tell us a bit about the process that you've taken
35:49
to be at the top, have challenges and then still
35:51
come back. Because everyone's been quoting obviously having the impossible
35:53
come back, but you made it possible. What was happening
35:57
mentally spiritually for you, not just physically, but what was
36:00
happening mentally and spiritually.
36:02
Speaker 1: For you, Well, first of all, to reflect on the
36:04
impossible word in the world you have, I am possible, right,
36:09
So I truly I don't believe in and you know
36:13
something is impossible. I believe really everything is possible. As
36:16
we talked about it earlier, my wife has been you know,
36:21
my girlfriend for a long time, ever since I was eighteen,
36:25
she was nineteen. That's that's when we started dating. And
36:30
she used to play tennis and that's how we met.
36:33
And we've known each other four or five years before
36:35
we started dating, you know, through tennis. And then she
36:40
went to study in Italy in Milan, and I came
36:44
at more or less the same time here in Monaco
36:48
to follow my coach at the time, and I started
36:51
using Monaco as a base and she came over. Milani
36:55
is close to Monaco, so she came over and that's
36:57
how it all started. And when she finished studies, she's obviously,
37:02
you know, thinking she had a lot of opportunities for
37:05
her own career, but she sacrificed that in order to
37:08
live my career, live my dream, in order to save
37:11
the relationship in a way.
37:12
Speaker 2: So I'm very grateful.
37:13
Speaker 1: For for her and what she has you know, done
37:18
for our relationship and for me. And I learned, I
37:22
keep on continue to learn from her so much. She
37:26
introduced me to yoga actually back back in the days
37:30
when she was studying.
37:32
Speaker 2: And she is a huge reader.
37:35
Speaker 1: She likes to read everything and anything, and she you know,
37:40
likes to write as well, and she was being big
37:44
on journaling all the time. And I remember when I
37:46
was quite young, from my tennis mother and for my parents,
37:49
I learned how to kind of write and have specific
37:54
things that I want to share on the paper. I
37:56
did it, you know, kind of like what I'm grateful
37:58
for and things like that, which was nice.
38:00
Speaker 2: But then I lost that.
38:02
Speaker 1: I didn't do it for many years, and then she
38:05
reminded me of that, so I started doing it again
38:08
and and and it felt great because I felt like
38:12
I could release a lot of things that were tensing
38:16
me up.
38:16
Speaker 2: Through exactly but also through yoga. You know, she learned
38:21
about it. She because she was so stressed during her
38:24
you know, studies.
38:27
Speaker 1: She spent the whole day obviously, starting with books, and
38:29
you know, student life isn't easy, so she was looking
38:32
into ways how she can relax herself get more energy,
38:35
and you know, she was she was not drinking coffee
38:38
or any of these things. So she came into yoga
38:40
and she was sharing it with me. So I started
38:42
doing it with her, you know, the whole the breathing pranayama,
38:46
the you know, the the sun salutations and everything and
38:49
and that. Ever since then, we've been doing obviously some
38:51
form of yoga, you know, try on a daily basis.
38:55
Speaker 2: And and you know, she she's been a very.
39:00
Speaker 1: Very significant integral part of my life and my evolution.
39:05
Speaker 2: And what I'm.
39:05
Speaker 1: Really grateful for is that not only that we you know,
39:10
truly love each other and we are very transparent and honest,
39:14
but also that we have helped from the universe to
39:18
actually be in a very similar state of consciousness in
39:22
certain phases of our lives, so we can help each
39:25
other learn better and grow faster in certain areas.
39:31
Speaker 2: That we choose.
39:32
Speaker 1: That are you know, you know, part of those particular periods.
39:36
So I think she would agree that when we became
39:40
parents four years ago that has completely shifted our world,
39:47
you know, upside down. Up to that moment, we were
39:50
also spiritual, but you know, still quite basic comparing to
39:55
what has happened after that. And we truly believe that
39:59
our kids are our masters and our teachers, and then
40:03
they come to this life to bring bring lessons for
40:09
us and bring help for us to understand a lot
40:13
of things about ourselves and the deeper levels and what
40:16
we have to work on, which is quite contrary to
40:19
what you know in a way society things, which is
40:23
we are teaching them, which we are, of course, but
40:27
you know, actually I've been talking with her a lot
40:31
about that.
40:32
Speaker 2: And now we have a baby girl that is.
40:34
Speaker 1: One year old and she I was mentioning, she's a healer,
40:38
she really is, and she brings that kind of energy.
40:40
Speaker 2: To this world and she has, i mean sky.
40:45
Speaker 1: Rocketed our attention for the moments for you know, the consciousness,
40:49
the awareness about everything, I mean even more, and we're like,
40:53
oh my god, you know, there's another level. There's another level.
40:57
So we you know, we help each other grow and
40:59
I think we it's it's I'm really grateful that I
41:01
can share with her literally everything and anything that I'm
41:05
interested in that I'm going through. And you know, she
41:10
she has been always the shoulder to to lean on,
41:13
and she has always been there and tough moments for
41:17
me in my career when I was, you know, going
41:19
through an injury recently and I had to take six
41:22
months break down to tennis, and and then when I
41:24
came back, I was like questioning whether I should keep
41:27
on playing on that level or not. And I was
41:30
just going through, you know, just going through hard work
41:33
inside and and then she, you know, she was there
41:36
and she helped me to overcome all of that, of course,
41:39
with alongside with help of some life spiritual teachers that
41:44
I have that I can tell you a little bit, well,
41:49
there are two guys in particular, Jose Pepe mas and
41:53
and jar Quilch. Jose Pepe is from from Spain and
41:58
Jarque is from from and I consider them really as
42:03
my spiritual and life teachers, my masters that I've learned
42:08
a lot from.
42:09
Speaker 2: And back in I think twousand.
42:11
Speaker 1: And ten or eleven, i've met Jarco so about seven
42:16
eight years ago, and I met him through my wife
42:20
actually because my wife had a friend that knew him,
42:23
and that's.
42:24
Speaker 2: How we got into it.
42:25
Speaker 1: He's a ray Ki healer, but he's much more than that.
42:29
And you know, he helped a lot both my wife
42:33
and I to again open our mind even more to
42:38
understand how we can have internal conversations with ourselves because
42:43
I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know
42:44
how to verbalize my emotions. And that's where my wife
42:48
was ahead of me, and that's where we struggled in
42:52
our relationship because she was trying to dig things out
42:55
from me and make me share more. But I wasn't
42:59
able to do that because.
43:00
Speaker 2: I didn't know how.
43:01
Speaker 1: She's like, speak to me, what do you feel? I'm like,
43:05
I don't know, I feel something. I just don't and
43:08
and and so I think Jacques was was very helpful
43:12
in that and and and it.
43:14
Speaker 3: Sounds like everyone needs that.
43:16
Speaker 2: Everyone. Yeah, I mean everyone needs that, of course.
43:19
Speaker 1: But I think you know there's this great saying, you know,
43:23
when the when, when the student is ready, the teacher
43:25
will come right. So I felt that the first initial
43:30
step I needed to do, I needed to decide in
43:34
my mind internally that Okay, this is exactly what I
43:37
need from my heart, for my soul, for my for
43:40
my growth.
43:41
Speaker 2: This is the priority.
43:43
Speaker 1: I have to learn how to manage myself, my emotions,
43:47
how to not just to be a better tennis player,
43:50
but to be a better human being. And and so
43:54
so then the teacher appeared, obviously, and and then after that,
43:58
obviously I I started to expand my my awareness and
44:02
and you know, observation of the world. And then I
44:06
run into Pepe, who is very close person and and
44:10
also a spiritual life teacher to my brother Marco, and
44:13
they live in the same place. Actually, Marco, my brother,
44:16
went to live in Spain because of Pepper and Pepe's
44:19
whole philosophy of life is love and peace and and uh.
44:26
He brought that kind of energy into our lives, the
44:31
perception of love and peace what it really means.
44:34
Speaker 2: And at the beginning, I was actually not really.
44:41
Speaker 1: Supportive, I must say, of my brother, because he started
44:44
doing that before me. He started going through this whole
44:46
process of learning with with Pepe, and he moved to
44:50
Spain so he can be closer to him because he felt,
44:53
you know, deep inside it that something is very important
44:55
that he has to address.
44:57
Speaker 4: Uh.
44:57
Speaker 1: And I just I didn't get it at the time.
45:00
I thought, well, you know, you have to because he
45:01
was playing professional tennis, and I was like, you can't really,
45:04
you know, just love in peace. You know, you have
45:06
to kind of like go back and train and this this,
45:09
I said, if you're loving peace on the court, the
45:11
other guy will beat you. And this is what it
45:13
comes down to, you know, and in sports. And he
45:16
was like, listen, He's like, I understand, but I trust me.
45:20
I have to go through this, and I just feel
45:22
that this is my growth.
45:24
Speaker 2: I did. I didn't understand that at the time.
45:26
Speaker 1: And then I but I was attracted to because I
45:28
felt that his energy was amazing and you can never
45:31
get upset with him, you know, you speak to him,
45:33
he's like you you know, he always smiles and everything,
45:36
you know, even when we had tough conversations, he always
45:39
smiles and sends it because he always prays inside and
45:43
sends your love. And for that, he had to work
45:46
and still continues to work, I mean immensely. And I
45:50
didn't understand what he kept on emphasizing inner work, inner growth,
45:55
inner work, inner growth, universal love.
45:57
Speaker 2: I really didn't really get it, you know.
46:01
Speaker 1: And then and then then obviously, uh, this whole energy
46:06
attracted my wife and I and and we connected with
46:09
Pepe and with my brother and on different levels, and
46:12
and today you know, obviously we understand, you know what
46:16
what he truly, what he truly means, because we embraced
46:20
that work and we have to do it daily.
46:23
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to shortly reflect on that inner
46:26
work for the purpose or goal.
46:30
Speaker 1: My goal for the inner work up to not a
46:33
while ago was tennis and that and and I the
46:39
feeling inside you can call it ego, whatever has drawn
46:44
me to that sensation of I need to do this
46:48
because that will help me play better tennis.
46:51
Speaker 2: But it didn't resonate something.
46:54
Speaker 1: I was living a successful life but not fulfilled, if
46:57
you know what I mean.
46:59
Speaker 2: And and there was something wrong with that. I just felt,
47:03
I felt the.
47:04
Speaker 1: Answers of that truth and the essence and what it
47:07
really means to do that on a daily basis for
47:10
yourself and your growth as a human being and not
47:14
just as a tennis player or a doctor or whatever.
47:17
Speaker 2: But I it wasn't.
47:18
Speaker 1: It was weak comparing to the other side, which was
47:22
since I was seven, I'm going I dreamed of being
47:26
number one of the world.
47:27
Speaker 2: That's my ambition, that's my lifetime goal. I have to
47:29
fulfill it. When I fulfilled it in twenty eleven. I
47:33
kept on going.
47:34
Speaker 1: I just I want to be more Grand Slam. I
47:36
have more Grand Slam trophies. I want to be number
47:39
one for as long as I can. It just kept going,
47:41
and I believe that from my experience.
47:44
Speaker 2: You need goals and objectives, you know.
47:46
Speaker 1: And.
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Speaker 2: But you need to balance that with you know, what.
47:53
Speaker 1: Is truly the most important work, which is the inner work. Yes,
47:57
and and I didn't get it up up to non
48:00
while ago, to be honest, And that's when I start
48:03
to get it.
48:03
Speaker 2: And that's when I start to understand the message from Pepper.
48:06
Speaker 1: He was, whatever you do, you do it with excitement,
48:11
with joy, with passion, but at the same time, never
48:16
forget about what you have to do before, during, and
48:20
after that, which is a much much bigger work and
48:23
longer work.
48:24
Speaker 2: And now I do truly understand that.
48:27
Speaker 3: Give us give us an So for anyone who's listening
48:29
and they're like no, I'm like you, I don't get it. Yeah, yeah,
48:32
you know because so many people today, I feel like spirituality, energy,
48:35
all of these words are flying around the internet. People
48:38
are talking about it, but there's so many people that
48:40
don't get it. Explain to us in your own way,
48:42
in the way you see it. What is in a
48:45
work and what in a work you do? What you
48:47
were saying that before that, during that after that has
48:50
helped you, not just in tennis, but you've.
48:52
Speaker 1: Talked so and reflected so wonderfully on this and so
48:56
many of your videos about the habits about addiction that
49:00
we have.
49:00
Speaker 2: The whole day passes by.
49:02
Speaker 1: We don't even remember a single moment in the day
49:06
because we've just been distracted.
49:09
Speaker 2: The whole time.
49:10
Speaker 1: So you know, if we are learned and trained to
49:13
be distracted, that's how you know our life is going
49:16
to unfold.
49:17
Speaker 2: We are going to be distracted.
49:19
Speaker 1: But if we train ourselves to be present and more aware,
49:24
then obviously we're shipped the attention of the subconscious and
49:27
all the internal external energies and nature and everything into that,
49:32
you know, in a simplified way.
49:34
Speaker 2: Work on the habits, right, I mean, I have you know,
49:37
still some habits that need working on, you know, and
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and you know it.
49:43
Speaker 1: You know, for example, the phone, right that that is
49:46
so addictive and you get into.
49:47
Speaker 2: Instagram that I by the way, love that's great, fantastic, It's.
49:52
Speaker 3: How we can tell.
49:54
Speaker 1: But but if you let it become your master then,
50:00
and that's how it's going to be. And you're going
50:02
to be distracted, You're going to feel lack of energy,
50:05
You're going to feel lack of inner peace, You're going
50:07
to feel upset. You know, you're going to have a
50:11
short breath. You know, all these different things. And that
50:14
reflects on relationships, That reflects on you know, your performance
50:19
at your work or whatever you're doing. And and for me,
50:23
I try to okay, try to think inside, Okay, what
50:27
am I doing right on the tennis court?
50:30
Speaker 2: How can I translate that? And off the tennis court?
50:33
Speaker 1: Interesting and the own tennis court, what I'm doing right
50:37
is complete one hundred percent focus and presence of mind
50:42
and body and everything, discipline, working towards objective or organized
50:51
preparing myself.
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Speaker 2: This is a big thing I feel.
50:54
Speaker 1: You know, if you fail to prepare, you prepare yourself
50:57
to fail, right, So preparation is a huge thing.
51:00
Speaker 2: I mean, at least in my world. For tennis, it
51:04
has helped me a lot because.
51:07
Speaker 1: I don't want to put a number on it, but
51:09
let's say eighty percent to a ninety percent of the
51:13
match that you want for example, or any success.
51:15
Speaker 2: That you have exactly exactly.
51:18
Speaker 1: How you do your homework for you know, in my instance,
51:23
you know, obviously working on all my strengths and weaknesses,
51:30
preparing myself physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
51:34
Speaker 2: For the match that is coming up. I have the
51:38
whole short term and long term plan.
51:40
Speaker 1: How can I get from from here to there in
51:44
the shortest time, those types of things. And then you know,
51:49
obviously doing your homework on the guy, on the opponent
51:51
that you're playing against, where you're going to play, the stadium,
51:54
the crowd, the weather. You know, it's it's really whole
52:01
homework that you have to do in order before you
52:03
get in and then you win a tennis match, and
52:06
then it's not only about the tennis match.
52:08
Speaker 2: It's eighty ninety percent of the work that you do
52:10
prior to that.
52:11
Speaker 1: So that's why I believe, you know, preparation is a big,
52:14
big thing. Working on the habits. You know, the science
52:19
says that you need twenty what two or three days
52:21
that you can you know, shift you know, from bad
52:24
habit to a healthy habit.
52:26
Speaker 2: So we need.
52:26
Speaker 1: Persistency, we need discipline, you know, we need we need
52:29
repetition and Bruce Lifton that I also like to listen
52:33
to a lot. He was talking about subconscious, right, and
52:36
how subconscious is controlling probably ninety ninety five percent of
52:40
our everyday life. So if we can feed our subconscious
52:44
with the information that is going to allow us to
52:48
excel and to live life that we want to, then
52:51
that's what's going to happen. Because your subconscious doesn't know
52:54
what's good for you or bad for you.
52:56
Speaker 2: It just knows what you tell them, yes, and the
52:59
seeds that you planned.
53:01
Speaker 1: So so he was talking about, you know, there are
53:05
two ways to kind of hack your subconscious, which is hypnosis,
53:10
which happens from you know, until you know you're seven
53:14
years old, and then repetition. So that's why, I mean,
53:20
my wife and I are very passionate for the preschool
53:24
education and early childhood development. Until you're six or seven
53:29
years old, that's when its most vast brain growth, and
53:32
that's where you know, the fundamentals and the foundation of your.
53:37
Speaker 2: Life is set.
53:39
Speaker 1: And and that's where you know, Bruce was talking about
53:42
it really beautifully and it made sense. And then after
53:48
your seven it's repetition. It's discipline. Okay, I'm switching off
53:54
all my phones after a certain hour, I'm you know,
53:59
doing my praying work because I believe in the invisible world.
54:04
The science proves quantum science talks about it where the
54:08
most distance points are actually one in in a split second,
54:13
and and we all have proven that, and so you
54:18
just need to really believe it in order to achieve it.
54:21
And you know where your attention, you know where your
54:24
tension goes, the energy flows, and I think it all
54:28
starts with open mind, and you have to I think
54:30
with a question. It's always so great to ask yourself questions.
54:35
Who am I, why I'm here? What I want to do,
54:37
what I want to become? What I you know, just
54:40
all these questions put on the paper, write it down,
54:43
go through you know, in your mind, through that whatever
54:45
your method is.
54:47
Speaker 2: But you just have to address it.
54:49
Speaker 1: If you don't address it, you're going to go about
54:51
the same things that you went about, and then you're
54:53
going to get the same outcome that you don't desire.
54:56
So I feel like that kind of awareness about that
55:02
just helps, you know, helps learn.
55:05
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm learning from you so.
55:06
Speaker 1: Much on a daily basis as well, because you know,
55:09
I obviously follow your work and and there's so many
55:12
great messages out there, and I feel like this is
55:15
the time where we can expand our consciousness and get
55:18
closer to who we are because, you know, the two
55:21
most important on all these provate questions on this planet
55:24
ever since the existence of humans is you.
55:27
Speaker 2: Know who we are and why we are here?
55:29
Speaker 1: Absolutely so I think also the truth seeking element and
55:33
part is also quite important in that.
55:36
Speaker 2: I mean, I consider myself a truth seeker.
55:38
Speaker 1: I like to, you know, try to dig even deeper
55:42
and deeper and deeper and understand who we are.
55:44
Speaker 2: You know, why are we here? Is this a planet?
55:47
Is this a realm? What is it? You know? Is
55:49
this a matrix?
55:50
Speaker 3: Is it not?
55:51
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's it's important to ask us
55:54
these questions and get do your research and dig deep
55:57
into that because other you know, I think it all
56:00
comes down to, you know, whether you are your own
56:03
master or or not. So I think if you are
56:08
your own master, then it allows you to take actions the.
56:12
Speaker 2: Way you want them rather than you know.
56:14
Speaker 1: I love the Jim Quick that I also like very much,
56:17
and he he talks about.
56:21
Speaker 2: The thermostat and thermometer. So don't be the terministat, but
56:26
be the thermometer.
56:27
Speaker 1: Set your the temperature set you you set the temperature
56:30
of the room, and you set it up the way
56:32
you wanted it and the thermostat if you set it,
56:35
then you have to adjust so it's reactive. And I
56:39
think it's such a such a great wisdom.
56:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, great advice, man. I loved what you were saying earlier.
56:44
That's that's great advice. And I hope everyone's listening is
56:46
is taking notes. But that what you said earlier, I
56:49
loved you said that for a long time you believed
56:51
ego is the enemy. Yes, and then now you've started
56:54
to understand that actually the ego has to be befriended. Yes,
56:57
And I thought that was I couldn't agree with you more,
57:00
agree with you more. Sometimes I believe the ego is
57:02
like a perfect mirror to yourself in the self that
57:04
you don't want, but at least it starts teaching you.
57:07
The ego can teach you so much if you're aware
57:09
of it. So I want to hear your perception on
57:12
how you've been switching between egos the enemy to actually
57:14
befriending the ego. Well, this is you've got every reason
57:18
to have a big egea. You've got every reason and
57:20
you're not. You're a very humble person. But you've got
57:23
every reason.
57:23
Speaker 2: And I do have it, and I do have it,
57:25
and this is the this is the point.
57:26
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it at the time, and we talked
57:28
about it a little bit, and as you reflected, I
57:31
do have a big ego, but I have to embrace
57:36
it and and learn how to befriend it and deal
57:39
with it in the ways that that I'm to work,
57:43
going to work and team up with my ego rather
57:45
than I'm going to be an enemy of my ego,
57:47
because then again I'm reacting. Then ego can you know,
57:53
persuade you and do different things and mask.
57:57
Speaker 2: You know certain things, is so smart and witty, and
58:00
then you have to react. And then you have to
58:02
just kind.
58:02
Speaker 1: Of like try to try to handle and juggle with
58:06
so many things instead of hey, let's team up. You're
58:09
inside of me, I'm you, you're me, Okay, let's figure
58:13
this out. How can we work together? And you kind
58:17
of have to, you know, please it, and at the
58:19
same time you have to control it. And even though
58:23
I don't really like the word word control, I still
58:26
feel like, you know, if you if you create your
58:31
controlled environment, it's gonna be better off for you in
58:34
your life.
58:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got so what I when I finish off
58:37
with every interview is called my final five. So the
58:39
five the fast five. So these are fast five questions
58:42
if you answer.
58:43
Speaker 2: So.
58:44
Speaker 3: The first question I was going to answer is what's
58:46
the first thing that you do every morning?
58:48
Speaker 2: First thing that I do every morning is prayer.
58:51
Speaker 3: Beautiful, second question, what do you pray for?
58:54
Speaker 2: First?
58:54
Speaker 1: I express my gratitude for my body, for myself, for
59:01
the opportunity to continue my evolution as a multi dimensional
59:06
being in this realm. I'm grateful for my family. I'm
59:11
grateful for being able to have my senses and to
59:16
have big bed, and to have the most beautiful sunrise
59:20
every morning.
59:21
Speaker 3: It's amazing. How do you make sure that your energy
59:24
is where you want it to be spiritually?
59:26
Speaker 1: Internally continuing to work on the things that we talked about.
59:35
Speaker 2: So aside of the physical work and tennis.
59:39
Speaker 1: And duties as a father and a husband, I need
59:44
to get in daily something and my self care work.
59:50
Whether it's only a meditation or it's a two minute
59:53
breathing prayer, whatever it is. Sometimes it's only that because
59:57
you don't have time but you know it's important to
1:00:01
just kind of, you know, keep keep doing it and
1:00:04
be disciplined with it.
1:00:05
Speaker 3: What's the best advice you've ever received?
1:00:10
Speaker 2: Be open minded.
1:00:14
Speaker 3: I love that theme. That's the theme of this for sure.
1:00:19
Speaker 1: It's when you're open minded, then you're ready to receive
1:00:23
everything that we're surrounded with and in such a beautiful world,
1:00:26
and we're so blessed that we live in this world
1:00:30
and that we go.
1:00:31
Speaker 2: Through the process of evolution.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: And I think when you come close to the realization
1:00:36
of you know who you are, I think and you
1:00:39
continue to seek for that truth, I just it brings
1:00:43
you closer to the source from where you arrived and
1:00:46
just makes you makes you so present, and it makes
1:00:50
you so calm, and it makes you so joyful and
1:00:53
grateful for yourself, for people around you, for everything that
1:00:56
you have, that you do that surrounds you feels.
1:01:00
Speaker 2: You and I feel that that's the essence of our life.
1:01:04
Speaker 3: Amazing. And the fifth question, fifth and final question is
1:01:07
if your racket was a magic wand and you could
1:01:09
get the whole world to understand one thing, what would
1:01:12
you want everyone to understand.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: That our consciousness expands infinitely.
1:01:23
Speaker 3: Beautiful, straight to the point, what do you mean by that?
1:01:26
What do you want to understand? Man, I'm going to
1:01:29
give you the opportunity.
1:01:34
Speaker 5: That our conscious expense infinitely means well, at least in
1:01:38
my own perception, is that we are more than we
1:01:44
think or feel with our five senses, that we really are.
1:01:47
And when you I feel like when I came to
1:01:51
this realization, it just opened the door to a whole
1:01:54
different universe and dimension to me. And I feel that
1:01:58
my evolution and my growth in every aspect of who
1:02:02
I am and my everybody has just quadrupled from light
1:02:09
years ahead. I just feel I feel calm at the
1:02:12
same time, but so excited for everything that I that
1:02:15
life has to offer that I can learn.
1:02:17
Speaker 3: Thank you, No, that we so have to do a
1:02:19
part too in all of that. We're gonna and yeah,
1:02:23
thank you so much. I'm so grateful. Thank you for
1:02:25
your time and energy, and you've got so many things
1:02:27
on I love you giving me your amazing wife so much.
1:02:31
Speaker 2: Infinite love to grateful.
1:02:33
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