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Is Dustin May's Trade Value Plummeting? Trade Deadline Needs, Masyn Winn Extension Case · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jim Hayes. Our special guest is a buddy of mine,
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  Speaker 1: Corey Miller from KSDK Channel five, who's all suited up
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  Speaker 1: some of that. Corey. It is nice to have you again.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on after you just got off
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  Speaker 1: the air. The Cardinals just took a lost five to
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  Speaker 1: three in Arizona, so we're going to get your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on that. They drop back to five hundred if I'm
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  Speaker 1: not mistaken. My main takeaway from that is Dustin May
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  Speaker 1: had another rough one. Now he had stretched ten twelve
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  Speaker 1: games where he was lights at one of the best
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  Speaker 1: pitchers in the National League but if you recall he
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  Speaker 1: had a bad outing, then he got a line drive
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  Speaker 1: off his ankle, and then some short starts there hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been quite the same Today. He goes five innings, gives
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  Speaker 1: up eight hits, five runs, and he walks four. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big problem. Now my concern with Dustin May. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna deal them now. I just also want
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  Speaker 1: to tell you Corey that my other partners on this show,
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  Speaker 1: with lanceln and Kyle Gibson, when I say I think
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  Speaker 1: the Cardinals will trade this guy, they try to say,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see this guy trade it. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I like Dustin May. I just think he has value
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  Speaker 1: and there's a mutual option next year for twenty million.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's going to want the bag long term.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals can use the money elsewhere. So
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  Speaker 1: my question to you is should we be overly concerned
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  Speaker 1: about Dustin May right now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm honored program take our you know, locker room conversation
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  Speaker 2: to uh have the people out there at large.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Dustin May, when the Cardinals signed, I was saying that, ever,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if I've ever seen a more
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  Speaker 2: obvious Let sign this guy hopefully rehabilitate what people of
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  Speaker 2: them and with them signing from the Cardinals and maybe
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  Speaker 2: ever since I've been alive, it seems very obvious that
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  Speaker 2: they wanted to happen and that can still happen. But
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  Speaker 2: like you said, we've seen the gamut of Dustin May
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  Speaker 2: you know, experience the domination of a complete game and
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  Speaker 2: then the game in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: Where he gets hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of today is in the middle of that, where
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  Speaker 2: he gets you know, the ending, still the inning, but
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have you know, moment that's going out of that.
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  Speaker 2: I think still that the deadline is gonna have that
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  Speaker 2: value on him. I also think they're going with it's
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  Speaker 2: an interesting conversation and maybe this is.
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  Speaker 3: A guy you invest in.
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  Speaker 2: It be somebody that these young guys coming up, we'll
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  Speaker 2: look because the Cardinals would benefit from a guy like
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  Speaker 2: that going forward. But yeah, get that money on the books.
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  Speaker 2: It just makes too much sense to deal him. If
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  Speaker 2: there's people out there interested in that, there will be. Hopefully,
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  Speaker 2: if you're hind blue, you know, every single start he makes,
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  Speaker 2: you're getting a little more nervous that it's not good
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  Speaker 2: not good, and I think Dustin knows that too, and he.
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  Speaker 3: Would love to go on Cardinals. They're like Park right now,
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  Speaker 3: but more of a.
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  Speaker 2: Defender, So it would behoove all party for him to
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  Speaker 2: kind of pick it up. And the last few starts probably.
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  Speaker 1: Now for dust In may number one job I think
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  Speaker 1: from his point of view would be showing MLB that
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  Speaker 1: I'm healthy. Check that box, because he had a long
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  Speaker 1: stretch where he looked really good. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: went on today, I'm not in Arizona, but the four walks.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to Dusty Blake, the pitching coach, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what are the things that you see and
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  Speaker 1: he said, well, number one, he's walking guys, which when
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  Speaker 1: things are right, he's not walking guys. Four more walks today,
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  Speaker 1: only five innings too, and he threw ninety eight pitches.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a plus that he can throw them
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  Speaker 1: many pitches. You'd like to see him go deeper. But
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  Speaker 1: my concern is what you get in return if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to deal this guy. And again Corey Miller says,
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  Speaker 1: trade him. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to play the
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  Speaker 1: role of Lancelint. Neither of us are saying trade him.
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  Speaker 1: We just think he will be traded a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: I think Corey agreed when they signed him, this is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that could flip right. They did their homework
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  Speaker 1: and said he's healthy. We're going to give him a
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  Speaker 1: pathway to show he's healthy. But my concern is, boy,
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  Speaker 1: if you go a few games ago, the Hall would
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  Speaker 1: have been great, and there's still a lot of baseball
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  Speaker 1: to play, and I know he's a competitor and he
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  Speaker 1: wants to finish strong. That's my concern is that what
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  Speaker 1: could have been a huge Hall might be limited unless
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  Speaker 1: he gets it back on track.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about this later, got all the guys who
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  Speaker 2: are kind of end up traded.
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  Speaker 3: He was kind of the guy at the top that.
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  Speaker 2: You think that the main guy Wire more than O'Brien, Socket,
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  Speaker 2: Jojo Romero. Now on I l that thinks a little
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  Speaker 2: bit too far. What is his work the other team?
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  Speaker 2: So May was gonna be the guy that would get you.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest Hall. So maybe not feeling as great as
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  Speaker 3: you did.
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  Speaker 1: So what we also saw today was a multi hit
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  Speaker 1: game from Weatherhold Walker coming through with a big hit.
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  Speaker 1: These two guys just seem to be getting better and
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  Speaker 1: better and again still out of baseball to play. But
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  Speaker 1: with what we saw Walker do with the home run Derby,
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  Speaker 1: which is unlike anything I've seen before, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: not only did you know the the guys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Philly guys were saying it's over, right, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't over because he kept going. Then you see his families,
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  Speaker 1: You see what a nice guy is like. It's the
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  Speaker 1: world is his now. And if you look at Weatherhole
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  Speaker 1: after he gets the extension, everyone, his teammates, the fans,
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  Speaker 1: everyone is excited. Those two guys you figure are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be right. I mean, they're the guys you're gonna build
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  Speaker 1: around for years to come. And that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's your pundation staying arout the last. The Walker moment
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  Speaker 2: in the home run Derby is the best Ardnold baseball
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  Speaker 2: moment at least since Albert two over the last decade.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's play up.
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  Speaker 2: There, especially how everything old of the end, Billy playing
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  Speaker 2: the villain against that crowd and kind of everything. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, you and I have covered work for a
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  Speaker 2: long time, but it was really tough. You know, this
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  Speaker 2: goes about it the right works hard to such a
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  Speaker 2: decent game with a great family.
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  Speaker 3: And it just wasn't working for him.
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  Speaker 2: The Seed even has been incredible, so level headed and
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  Speaker 2: cool throughout it all. I guess I should have expected
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  Speaker 2: that in the home run Derby, but that's what we've
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  Speaker 2: seen all season. But I thought that would rattle him
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  Speaker 2: a bit, and it just looks like he did all long.
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  Speaker 2: He knows what he could do, and he's going out
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  Speaker 2: there and proving it. Hopefully, even though it was on
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  Speaker 2: Netflik got to kind of wake up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Netflix, I didn't like the Netflix coverage. I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to know on every home run the distance. I'd like
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  Speaker 1: an angle where I could see where the ball goes.
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  Speaker 1: I would like for the guys to know the rules
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  Speaker 1: of the home run Derby. That being said, though, going
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  Speaker 1: into it, see, I think the concern with Walker was
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  Speaker 1: what if he hits a down week or two and
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  Speaker 1: then messes with him again? Right, and people, you've you've
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  Speaker 1: heard this. You know the home run der where you
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  Speaker 1: can mess with your swing. The fact that he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do it, the fact that he wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: and have fun because it was a boyhood dream of his,
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that he dominates tells me there's no
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  Speaker 1: more worries about Jordan Walker. I know the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he said I want to do it, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: do it told me a lot. How about you?
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  Speaker 2: And as you're watching it, there are a couple of
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  Speaker 2: things that stood out that that made me not worried
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  Speaker 2: about what's after.
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  Speaker 3: Uh did you formatt?
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  Speaker 2: I think benefits everybody that's you're on a timer. You're
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: up there clinging away, can't here. You know, you get
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  Speaker 2: to take your time. You're not really rocking the probably
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: less hurt yourself or throw yourself off. And the way
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  Speaker 2: he was hitting home runs, he wasn't necessarily hitting the
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  Speaker 2: jack pack.
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  Speaker 3: Then we'll sure it's almost five hundred foot bobs.
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  Speaker 2: He looked like Jorga Walker in game in line drive
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  Speaker 2: Pepper and him out there's people in the first couple
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  Speaker 2: of rows. Be ready because it's gonna hurt.
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  Speaker 3: You if it came at you.
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  Speaker 2: He just looked like people with Dolphine's lung instead of
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  Speaker 2: a guy trying to pain to who he was with
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  Speaker 2: a cearchain top.
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  Speaker 3: So I know why people were scared.
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  Speaker 2: And the Homarn Derby kind of does that and we've
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  Speaker 2: seen it happen the folks, but watching Jordan's didn't really
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  Speaker 2: scare me at all.
• 9:29
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• 10:23
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about extensions.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about JJ. We're both on board, and I
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: just wonder JJ was the right move. But you got
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: other guys that you think deserve extensions to, mostly because
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: you believe they will be good players today, tomorrow and
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: into the future. And you're building for the future. Guy
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: like Walker, I think is proving a lot now. They
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: don't have to do that now. But I've heard other
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: people media on social media say, you know, maybe not
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Mason when you know they be drafted a short stuff.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you are. I'd like to see
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: Mason one extended. Now, you're a guy that's in the
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: clubhouse all the time, you get to look around. You
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: see who the leaders are. If you're in there, you
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: know Mason is one of the leaders in there. Secondly,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: gold Glove to me, I think he's still just scratching
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: the surface of what he can be offensively. Deals with
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: some back issues and knee issues. I get that. So
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: if there are red flags, maybe those are them. But
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: as a as a Cardinal fan, which I am, I
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  Speaker 1: want to see JJ and win up the middle together
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  Speaker 1: for years to come. What say you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 4: There was just graphics that flashed on the screen today
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  Speaker 4: reminding everybody that that's been the best sort of stops
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  Speaker 4: that can pay and all of baseball, the most double
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  Speaker 4: plays of any Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Mason, he's a better offensive.
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  Speaker 2: Player than and I think an ideal way for the
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: rest of the lineup eventually is going to be destructed
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  Speaker 2: where he doesn't have to be a guy. He doesn't
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: have to be a guy that people were looking at
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: his office. He can hit him eight or ninth and
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  Speaker 2: then just kind of forget about it.
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  Speaker 3: Because he's gonna pay.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Look, he's gonna be illumer and he's gonna do something
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  Speaker 2: each night at shortstop that makes you work throwing up.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm absolutely in on Amazon, but you know numbers,
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  Speaker 3: what does that look like? Who knows right now? And
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  Speaker 3: maybe you can get a deal on.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: It right now of age, and you know, as a
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: quite broken out the way, still cold, but the leather
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  Speaker 2: hoole when duo.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like something spectful that you want to keep together.
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  Speaker 3: So I would definitely be.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Mark my words about Mason when we will see better
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: offense from that guy. First off, you know how much
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: he wants to be that guy at short stuff and
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: he works his tail up. I don't know how, you know,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: sometimes he gets pull heavy and then he doesn't look
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: there's some things he needs to work on. But knowing
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  Speaker 1: that guy and seeing what he does, if I think
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: people that look at him as yeah, we got a
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: really good defensive shortstop might be just seeing part of
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  Speaker 1: the equation. I'm a big fanily that guy, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think there's a danger though when you when
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  Speaker 1: you extend one guy and they're a team like you
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  Speaker 1: know that too from being they are a group, they're
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  Speaker 1: tight knit, they lean on each other. Is there a
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  Speaker 1: danger of rocking the boat a little when this guy
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  Speaker 1: gets an extension? This guy deserves one, but this guy
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  Speaker 1: isn't getting one.
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  Speaker 3: Very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know everybody showed up to JJ signing in his presstopper,
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  Speaker 2: that everybody filed in the room, the whole team. They're
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: so close, good vibes are at an old time hide.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's yelling together. You know, everybody wants the money and
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: it's spectually the guys that are Jordan Walker of Ann Herrera,
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  Speaker 2: I think are both the two n candidates for an extension.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know the Jordan Walker at all.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen what it looks like when it's not really
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  Speaker 2: only had a alps when it is great. Is that
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  Speaker 2: enough to make you dive fully in? I think this
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  Speaker 2: is more or less to this guy is.
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  Speaker 3: Than what we saw last year sport. But I also
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  Speaker 3: get it from a front off of game he might
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  Speaker 3: be a little weary.
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  Speaker 2: So how it was at the time, like they did
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  Speaker 2: with JJ though his value is only gonna go up.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a very good chance Jordan's value is going
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  Speaker 3: to go up.
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  Speaker 2: So why not get in on the ground floor of
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: a guy you already planned on building this all around
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  Speaker 2: and get him for a better price than you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get him in a couple of years when maybe you've
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: made him mad by that point by not showing that
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  Speaker 2: you believe in him early. And he's like, well, I
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: can find my own way in.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of years, and I'm agreed.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it makes a lot of sense the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 2: Not that I'm in their finance or anything, but it's
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: not like they broke Frank a whole lot of guys lately,
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  Speaker 2: and the guys they did, they kicked out and hopefully
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: had other two pick up those contacts. So hopefully there's
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: money in the coffer for some of these young guys
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: that you start to commit to as you kind of build.
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  Speaker 3: Beyond now.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Walker just put a million dollars in his pocket from
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: running the home run derby, so he's got a little
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: spending money to take care of things for now. But
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I wonder too, the potential for a labor dispute. How
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: that will impact if you're a young player and this
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: is there and you like the organization. Like take Jordan
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Walker for example, they stuck with them. They try to
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: help him get to where he should be. Now he's there,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: is now the time where a player might be more
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: eager to grab the bag, as the kids say, when
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: you know that there could be this thing, they could
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: have a real negative impact on teams going after, you know,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: going beyond whatever workstopage potentially there to be.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great point, and I'm sure all the agents
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: are thinking about that right now.
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  Speaker 2: They're talking to their players on a daily basis. Who
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: knows what next year is going to look like.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody's reaching out right now saying we want to give
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: you this money today. That sounds more apetizing, no question.
• 16:21
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  Speaker 1: sports reporter there does a fine job and he's all
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: suited up. We appreciate that. Now the Cardinals, now with
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: today's loss, back to five games over five hundred. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: guess I don't know why some people say you got
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to be at ten games if you have to be
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: considered a contender. I think that's nonsense. So my question
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  Speaker 1: to you is Heimas said this, You've interviewed him, I've
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: interviewed him. The thing that he stood at what stood
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: out to me is he's when I asked him about, Hey,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: if you guys are this good and you're at the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: trade deadline, what do you do when he said there's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: ways to be true to our long range plans. While
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: also maybe he's you know, he wasn't clear. Maybe adding
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  Speaker 1: pieces you need by being creative could be bullpen arms
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  Speaker 1: could be Guys, you get that you have a little
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: control over, but you have to be creative. My question
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to you is, if the Cardinals keep playing like this,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: keep inspiring the fan base, does the organization owe it
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  Speaker 1: to the fans and to the players as a reward
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  Speaker 1: for for the players doing what they're doing and for
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  Speaker 1: the fans by jumping back on board and showing a
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  Speaker 1: little patience with the rebuild.
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  Speaker 2: You can't kill this. That means a whole bunch of differences.
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  Speaker 2: I'm as bull vocal us, uh got a great creative Probably.
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  Speaker 3: Where makes sense to creative you guys, Romero, does the
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  Speaker 3: bay you look at kind of the makeup of what
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  Speaker 3: the field is going.
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  Speaker 2: To be and I think it comes down to that
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  Speaker 2: control back. The Cardinals are not going to acquire anybody at.
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  Speaker 3: The dead bone. I don't think that it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be a partner for the next like three years.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I was.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to fire anybody that's not gonna be
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: with if I look three years down there, that's what for.
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  Speaker 2: So you can do that and you'll find somebody who's
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  Speaker 2: a major league ready right now that you're controllable with.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's starting picture, just Tony, here you go. We'll
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  Speaker 2: make it up happy for everybody. And I think they're
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  Speaker 2: really interacting trade away from a like starting picture or
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  Speaker 2: left fielder bar. You got guys in the minors who
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: fans are also flamoring. Could baby slide right in provide,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: but those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Already providing any Quinn Matthews in the rotation or Josh
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  Speaker 3: Lebias in the outfit everybody.
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  Speaker 2: So there's ways to get creative with this, but I
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  Speaker 2: think you have to capitalize on assets that you can
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  Speaker 2: pack in and get or people that they're not part
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  Speaker 2: of your long goal.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. Last thing before we let you go.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: What is their biggest need because to me, you got bullpen,
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  Speaker 1: which it's not where you want it to be. If
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you're even hoping, like I, if you have a chance
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  Speaker 1: to climb through that window of opportunity. You know, I'm
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: not saying if you get in you have to win
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  Speaker 1: the World Series. No one knows that they're going to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: win the World Series. Once they're in the postseason. I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: would like to see them make an effort by adding
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  Speaker 1: some pieces. But let's face it, you kind of figure
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: they need a starting pitcher, maybe some bullpen out, which
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: is the biggest need in your view.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there to win, they got to find some more
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: stability in that, uh than three.
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  Speaker 3: Guys that kind of comfortable right now.
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  Speaker 2: They want to if they want to win, they got
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  Speaker 2: to figure out the bullpen. Somebody's gonna have to step up,
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  Speaker 2: and we trade a couple of those pieces away, then
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  Speaker 2: it really gets tough.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Who you're bringing up to really start e touch so thin,
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  Speaker 2: so you can only do so much with the bullpen
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: if you want to compete, it would be nice to
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  Speaker 2: get a starter who you have to soroleover and more
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: of a strikeout guy. I would like to see because
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of their guys done really well. This here,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: aren't exactly uh strike out, you know, missing barrels kind
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: of guy, but done well the guy. So the bullpen
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: is going to be a point of catch I take
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, no matter what they
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  Speaker 2: do with the deadline.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think he is a really smart guy and if
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: there's a way to do it, him is a guy
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  Speaker 1: who can figure it out. Corey did a great job.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Cardinal Territory. We appreciate it.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me and always a pleasure talking
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  Speaker 1: with you. And that's going to do it for this
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  Speaker 1: edition of Cardinal Territory. We'll see you for the next episode.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that one won't suck.