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820. Bible Study: Daniel 10 (Did JESUS appear to Daniel?) · Faith by annm2705

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We will cover chapter 10 of the book of Daniel today.
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Really, 11 and 12 go together with this chapter, but it'll be
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way too long and Chapter 11 is way too complicated to cover in
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this podcast. So we will start with chapter 10
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and only do that for this one. Dear Lord, please be with us as
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we read through this chapter and please give us insight through
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the Holy Spirit and understanding of what we read.
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We ask this in Jesus name, Amen. In the third year of Cyrus, King
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of Persia, a revelation was given to Daniel who is called
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Beltachezar. It's message was true and it
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concerned a Great War. The understanding of the message
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came to him in a vision. So Daniel is now this is Cyrus
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of Persia, whose ruling, remember initially it was the
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Babylonian and then now it's Persian rulership.
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And this is the third year of Cyrus, king of Persia that he
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has this vision. So verse 2, at that time I,
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Daniel mourned for three weeks. I ate no choice food, no meat or
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wine touched my lips. I used no lotions at all until
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the three weeks were over. On the 24th day of the first
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month, and I'll pause here because it's not really
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significant, but the first month, according to the original
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Jewish calendar, would have been in the springtime, around March
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usually. So on the 24th day of the first
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month, I was standing on the Bank of the great river, the
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Tigris. I looked up and there before me
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was a man dressed in linen with a belt of fine gold from upez
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around his waist. His body was like Topaz, his
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face like lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms
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and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and his voice
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like the sound of a multitude. Now, when I read this, there are
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so many other descriptions of Jesus that fit this category.
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And I actually, before doing this podcast, I actually read
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the questions and answers from the study Bible this time.
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And I understand that there are, you know, some people think it's
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an Angel and some people think it's Jesus.
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So the reason why I think it's Jesus is because there are
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multiple entries and you'll see multiple reasons why it sounds
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like Jesus more so than than an Angel.
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To start, most of the time when angels come, people are, I guess
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they feel the presence of something greater than what they
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are, something supernatural. And when an Angel messenger
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comes to a person and they usually like bow down right away
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because they know that it's something greater than what they
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are. And often times when it's an
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Angel messenger, the Angel will say, Oh no, no, don't do that
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because I'm a servant just like you.
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And the Angel usually, you know, it's like, don't worship me.
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I'm just a servant just like you.
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I'm just coming to give you a message, but this we'll see that
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there's no discussion about that like, oh, don't do that, you
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know, but there's just things that show and I will point out
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all the different references in the cross references in other
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parts of the Bible that really lead me to believe that it is
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Jesus. Scripture interprets Scripture.
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So let's start with the description of him.
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It does sound like in the Book of Revelation.
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So in Daniel, the way he describes he look, he looks up
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in a man's dressed in linen. Well, linen is always like is
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often the clothing. Usually it's white and is
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usually like a heavenly clothing.
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The that's what they typically are described as wearing.
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And then it says he has a belt of fine gold from UPEZ around
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his waist. And so I was curious, I was
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like, what is UPEZ or UPEZ? And it's so I just searched
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that. It's an unidentified location
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mentioned in the Old Testament, both in Jeremiah chapter 10 and
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Daniel chapter 10. It's famous for its
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exceptionally pure fine gold, possibly the same as Ofer,
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though some scholars suggest it's a term for refined gold
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itself or a region in India or Arabia serving as a symbol of
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ultimate wealth and purity in contrast to idols or worldly
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things. So it almost and let us see the
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source of fine gold. Scripture highlights Upaz as a
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source of top grade gold alongside Tarshish is a silver
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source. So this is just, you know, it
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seems like it's something like a superior form of gold and this,
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you know, wouldn't that be related to God or definitely
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from some someone heavenly, but sounds like Jesus.
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His body was like Topaz, his face like lightning, his eyes
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like flaming torches, his arms and legs like gleams of
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burnished bronze and his voice like the sound of a multitude.
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So we have description for his, his body, his eyes, his legs and
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his voice. And so elsewhere in Scripture we
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find, well, there's something that I wanted to point out first
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of all, because the reason why I say it, it's Jesus, because of
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what is stated about God in Scripture.
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So this isn't like a a vision of God because it says God is
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spirit and his worshippers must worship in the spirit and in
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truth. And that's found in John chapter
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4 verse 24. This is, I guess this is like
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from, yeah, this is Jesus saying this, Jesus telling people I can
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read the whole context. This is when he's talking to the
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woman at the well and she tells him she has no husband and he
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knows all about her without her telling him anything.
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And then I'll pick up where she responds back to him.
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Sir, the woman said, I can see that you are a prophet.
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Our ancestors worshipped on this mountain, but you Jews claim
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that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.
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Woman, Jesus replied, Believe me, a time is coming when you
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will worship the Father, neither on this mountain nor in
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Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you
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don't know. We worship what we do know, for
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salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now
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come, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in the
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spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshippers the
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Father seeks. God is spirit and his
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worshippers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.
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So then the woman replies. The woman said, I know that
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Messiah called Christ is coming. When he comes he will explain
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everything to us. Then Jesus declared, I the one
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speaking to you, I am he. So this is another great part of
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the Bible where Jesus says I'm the Messiah.
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He replies to this woman, he reveals that he is the Messiah
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to this woman. But that's not really what we
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were here to discuss. There's so many different
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tangents you can go to once you start studying and cross
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referencing the Bible. But this whole point is about
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God is spirit. So this vision that he sees is
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not the Father. And even though Jesus hadn't
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been here on earth, we know that Jesus, well, I say he hadn't
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been on earth it the birth of Jesus to Mary had not occurred
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yet. And at this point what we're
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reading in the Bible, but Jesus was eternal.
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He was eternal with the Father and the Spirit, and I think
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there's some evidence in that when we get when we start out in
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the Bible in the book of Genesis, where it refers to God
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as Elohim, which is plural in a plural sense.
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But yes, we know that God said, you know, he's you should
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worship the one that one true God and and so, but the the
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Father, Son and spirit are connected.
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They are 1. So that's like, I think a great
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mystery that maybe we'll all understand.
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I tend to think it's like by the same Spirit, because Jesus says
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that he does exactly what he sees the father doing.
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So there's like he's not like operating on his own.
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He's doing exactly what the father.
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There's a connection and then Jesus prays before he dies on
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the cross and says that to the Father make people humanity, I
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guess one as we are one like he prays for us that that we may
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enjoy what he enjoys with the Father that that connection to
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the father and I believe that's through the spirit that we
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become one with with God. I mean, we, we share the same
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spirit when God's Spirit is living in US.
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And what that means in eternity, I don't really know, but we
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certainly would have when we receive the Holy Spirit we are.
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That's our connection to God. And let's see what the other
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thing about the voice. So he, Daniel describes the
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voice of a multitude. So other people who have had
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experiences like this said, like Ezekiel, for example, he said
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when in his vision, he said when the creatures moved, I heard the
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sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the
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voice of the Almighty, like the tumult of an army when they
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stood, they lowered their wings. So this again is the God's voice
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sounds like rushing waters. And again it says, like in
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Ezekiel 10, it talks about the sound of the wings of the
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cherubim could be heard as far as away as the outer court, like
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the voice of God Almighty when he speaks like it's a booming
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voice, it's a very loud voice. And then in Ezekiel 43, he said,
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and I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east.
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We know that's really referring to Jesus.
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His voice was like the roar of rushing waters, and the land was
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radiant with his glory. And in Revelation chapter one,
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verse 15, it says his feet were like bronze glowing in a
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furnace. That's kind of what Daniel saw
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too. He said his body was Topaz, His
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face let's see his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished
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bronze and his voice like the voice like the sound of multi of
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a multitude. And then in Revelation 4, John
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sees this. He said and after this I looked
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and there before me was a door standing open in heaven.
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And the voice I heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, come
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up here and I will show you what my must take place after this.
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I'm not sure if that's actually that I was just looking at voice
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and that was another. So anyway, it's rushing waters
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is primarily what it's described loud about.
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So let's see Revelation 110, it says on the Lord's Day, this is
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John talking. I was in in the Spirit and I
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heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet.
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So again, it does say that God's voice is like a trumpet.
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It's like the sound of a multitude.
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That's how Daniel describes it. It's like the sound of rushing
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waters. And then.
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Yeah. So.
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So anyway, that's I guess in Job it talks about God's voice being
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like Thunder. It's because it says, do you
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have an arm like God's and can your voice Thunder like his?
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So this, this voice that Daniel heard sound like a multitude.
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It's just very, you know, I think these, these descriptions
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sound familiar. So then he says, I, Daniel was
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the only one who saw the vision. Well, when he said that, it made
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me think about Saul from the road to Damascus.
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So he describes this also. I'll finish reading what Daniel
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said. I, Daniel was the only one who
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saw the vision. Those who were with me did not
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see it, but such terror overwhelmed them that they fled
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and hid themselves. That just made me think and I
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didn't look up this first. But in the Book of Revelation,
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when the 6th seal is open, people flee into caves because
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they know that the wrath of God is coming.
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And many times when the presence of God has been felt, people
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have felt scared or intimidated because they knew they were
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sinful and they didn't want to be in the presence of God
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because sin cannot be in the presence of God because God's
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holiness will destroy the sin, which is eventually what's going
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to happen within the world. But the reaction from people
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when they sense a heavenly presence is, you know, to bow
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down or to flee and hide themselves.
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And that's exactly what it says in in the Book of Revelation
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about the 6th seal. So I was left alone, gazing at
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this great vision. I had no strength left, my face
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turned deathly pale, and I was helpless.
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Then I heard him speaking. And as I listened to him, I fell
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into a deep sleep, my face to the ground.
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So I'm going to read about what it said.
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I think there's some other verses that I missed that I
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wanted to talk about. It's about no one's seeing God.
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And that's another reason why it seems like it's Jesus, right?
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You know not the Father because it says in John chapter one
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verse 18, no one has ever seen God.
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But the one and only Son who is himself God and is in the
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closest relationship with the Father has made him known.
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And then in John chapter 646, no one has seen the Father except
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the one who is from God. Only he has seen the Father.
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And in first John chapter 4 verse 12, no one has ever seen
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God. But if we love one another, God
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lives in US and his love is made complete in US.
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So multiple times Jesus's disciple John has said no one
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has ever seen God and he wrote that in the book.
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However, this was what let's see that one no one has ever seen
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God. This is John 1.
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That's him saying that. And then in John chapter 6, this
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is actually from Jesus. So I'll read this, this whole, I
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don't know, I guess I'll read this section.
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Jesus is talking to these. He's talking to the Jews in
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this. I didn't read this in advance,
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but I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's pretty
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long. But he said, you know, he was.
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Let's see, this is all right. Let's just start here.
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John chapter 6, verse 35, let's start there because there's so
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much in here, but this is really good, this is Jesus.
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So then Jesus declared, I am the bread of life.
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Whoever comes to me will never go hungry and whoever believes
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in me will never be thirsty. That's very similar that what he
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said to the woman at the well. He said the water I give you,
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you will never be thirsty again. And she's like, where can I get
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this? So this is again showing like
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things about Jesus giving water to people.
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It's it's a different kind of water.
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It's the Holy Spirit. It's symbolic of that.
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Continuing on what he said. But as I told you, you have seen
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me. So people see Jesus, of course,
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and still you do not believe. All those the Father gives me
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will come to me. And whoever comes to me, I will
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never drive away. For I have come down from heaven
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not to do my will, but to do the will of him who sent me.
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And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none
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of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last
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day. So Jesus is going to raise up
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people at the last day. See, This is why Jesus says I am
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the way, the truth, and the life.
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And no one comes to the Father except through me.
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And Jesus is the one who gives us the Holy Spirit.
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And we need the Holy Spirit to raise because that's how Jesus
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rose from the dead. It was the Father's Spirit
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living in him. OK, so Jesus continues, for my
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Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and
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believes in him shall have eternal life.
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And I will raise them up at the last day.
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So again, there's the resurrection.
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Jesus is in charge of that. I will raise them up the last
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day. At this the Jews there began to
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grumble about him, because he said, I am the bread that came
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down from heaven. They said, Is this not Jesus the
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son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know?
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How can he say I came down from heaven?
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Stop grumbling among yourselves, Jesus answered.
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No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,
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and I will raise them up at the last day.
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Now Jesus has said this three Times Now, that he would raise
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people up on the last day and that people can't come to him
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unless the Father who sent Jesus draws them.
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God calls us first, then it's up to us to respond to God.
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So whenever somebody is inviting you to church, sharing something
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about God, something about Jesus with you, don't think that is
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just, I don't know, a weird thing or that it's just happened
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for an unknown reason. It's not a coincidence.
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God is calling people. He uses people who are willing
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to do that, just like Jesus was will.
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He came to do the Father's will. The same thing for people who
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have the Holy Spirit, because people who don't have the Holy
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Spirit are probably not going to be sharing God or Jesus or the
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Holy Spirit with anyone else because that's kind of a weird
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subject before you have the Holy Spirit to really talk about with
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people. So once you have the Holy
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Spirit, though, you, you actually, you care.
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And so you do say things about it that you wouldn't have said
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prior to having the Holy Spirit. And I can just say that from my
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own personal experience that I never talked to anybody about
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this, you know, in the way that I do today.
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And that's, I think that's the difference.
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It's the Holy Spirit. Anyway, I'm going back to verse
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45 now. It is written in the prophets.
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They will all be taught by God. Everyone who has heard the
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Father and learned from him comes to me.
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So when you get somebody drawing you in or inviting you to get to
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know Jesus, to know God, to go to church and learn about God,
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don't refuse it because it's an invitation from God.
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God works through people to get to you.
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And if you seek him, if you respond to that, if you start
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seeking him and wanting to know more about Him, he will reveal.
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It says right here they will all be taught by God.
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Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him
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comes to me. So that's the the Father will
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draw us and then will show us that Jesus is who he says He
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was, is, really was and is. He is the way, the truth, the
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life, and no one comes to the Father except through him.
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Then Jesus said no one has seen the Father except the one who is
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from God. Only He has seen the Father very
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truly, I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life.
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I am the bread of life. Your ancestors ate the manna in
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the wilderness, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes
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down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die.
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I am the living bread that came down from heaven.
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Whoever eats the spread will live forever.
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The bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the
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world. So Jesus, Jesus is the bread
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symbolically, right? And the bread is his flesh like
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his body, and his body is given on the cross for the life of the
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world so that we can live. So anyway, then it goes into
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like all the confusion that the Jews start debating.
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But anyway, Jesus is the one who said that.
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So he said that nobody's seen the Father.
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But then we have to think about very early on in the Old
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Testament when Moses had a burning Bush happen and a voice
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came out of it and the voice said I am who I am.
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This is what you are to say the to the Israelites.
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I am has sent me to you. So it's it's very interesting
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how it's written in the Bible is it first says that it was like
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an Angel of the Lord appeared to him.
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But Angel is also an interpretation because it's
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usually a messenger of the Lord. So the messenger of the Lord,
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could that have been Jesus, a messenger of the Father, the Son
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of God? It really does sound like it
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simply because of the exchange that happened.
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So I'm going to start with Exodus chapter 3, verse 2.
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Then the Angel, or if you want to say messenger of the Lord
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appeared to him in flames of fire from within the Bush.
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Moses saw that the Bush, that though the Bush was on fire, it
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did not burn up. Actually, that's that just
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brought to mind another one that we read in the book of Daniel
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about the three boys, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego that were
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thrown into a burning furnace and they did not burn.
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And then King Nebuchadnezzar said, wait a minute, we threw
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three boys into that furnace, but I see four and the fourth
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looks like the sons of God. So that's another sighting of
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Jesus before he was before he came to Mary.
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So Jesus was eternal and he's, this is what Jesus is actually
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saying to Moses here in when he appears in this Bush.
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So going back to the book of Exodus verse chapter 3, verse 3.
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So Moses thought, I will go over and see this strange sight.
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Why the Bush does not burn up? When the Lord saw that he had
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gone over to look, God called to him from within the Bush.
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Moses. Moses and Moses said, here I am,
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do not come any closer. God said, take off your sandals,
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for the place you are standing is is holy ground.
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Then he said, I am the God of your Father, the God of Abraham,
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the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
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At this Moses hid his face because he was afraid to look at
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God. The Lord said, I have indeed
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seen the misery of my people in Egypt.
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I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers,
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and I'm concerned about their suffering.
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So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the
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Egyptians. Remember it also says like by my
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own arm I saved them, and to bring them up out of the land
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into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and
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honey, the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites,
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parasites, Hivites and Jebusites.
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And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I
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have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them.
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So now I am sending you to the Pharaoh to bring my people, the
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Israelites out of Egypt. But Moses said to God, who am I
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that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of
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Egypt? And God said, I will be with
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you, and this will be a sign to you that it is I who have sent
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you. When you have brought the people
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out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.
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Moses said to God, Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to
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them, the God of your Father's has sent me to you.
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And they asked me, What is his name?
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Then what shall I tell him? God said to Moses, I am who I
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am. This is what you are to say to
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the Israelites. I am has sent me to you.
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There's another time where Jesus was talking to the Pharisees
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that's in Scripture that they said that Abraham saw what I was
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doing and he was pleased with it.
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Something to that effect, I'm paraphrasing.
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And so the Pharisees say to him, how can that be?
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You were not even 50 years old and you couldn't have known
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Abraham. You're not that old to have
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known Abraham basically is what they were saying.
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But again, this is just showing that I think it was Abraham, or
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maybe it was it was Moses that he was talking to that I can't
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remember now. I'd have to look up that
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Scripture, but it was basically Jesus was saying that he, I
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thought it was Abraham that he was telling that he had shared
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his plans with him and Abraham was pleased and they were like,
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there's no way because you're not old enough.
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And so God has, which we'll get to next about Abraham, how God
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had, Jesus had actually visited Abraham too.
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So Jesus visited, in my opinion, and I think supported by
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Scripture, Jesus had visited Abraham, He visited Moses.
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We just saw that. Now here's where he visits
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Abraham. So what happened here was this
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is about Sodom and Gomorrah and people were saying how terrible
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it was. They were praying to God and the
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prayers went up and then there were three visitors who showed
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up. And this is the account of the
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the three visitors that showed up, which I think Jesus is one
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of these visitors because of what is said here.
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So Genesis chapter 18, verse one, the Lord appeared to
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Abraham near the great trees of Mamare while he was sitting at
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the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day.
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Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby.
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When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to
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meet them and bowed low to the ground.
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He said, if I found favor in your eyes, my Lord, do not pass
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your servant by. Let a little water be brought
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and you may all wash your feet and rest under this tree.
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Let me get you something to eat so you can be refreshed, and
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then go on your way, now that you have come to your servant.
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Now that you've come to your servant.
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Very well, they answered, Do as you say.
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So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah.
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Quickie said, Get 3 sias of the finest flour and knead it and
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bake some bread. Then he ran to the herd and
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selected a choice tender calf and gave it to a servant who
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hurried to repair it. Then he bought some curds and
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milk in the calf that had been prepared and set the these
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before them. While they ate, he stood near
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them under a tree. Where is your wife, Sarah?
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They asked him. There in the tent, he said.
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Then one of them said, I will surely return to you about this
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time next year, and Sarah, your wife, will have a son.
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Now Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent which was
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behind him. Abraham and Sarah were already
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very old, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing.
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So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, After I am worn out
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and my Lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?
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Then the Lord listen that. Then the Lord said to Abraham,
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why did Sarah laugh and say, Will I really?
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Will I really have a child now that I'm old?
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So it says when and then the Lord, and it was Jehovah.
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Jehovah is the Lord in Hebrew. So isn't that talking about
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Jesus then it says is anything too hard for the Lord?
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I will return to you at the appointed time next year and
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Sarah will have a son. Sarah was afraid so she lied and
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said I did not laugh, but he said yes you did laugh.
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So again, I think that might have been Jesus because Jesus
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said that no one has ever seen the Father.
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And then we have another part. We're going to go back to the
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book of Daniel chapter 10, verse 10 and read something else that
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sounds like maybe this was Jesus once again.
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OK, verse 10 from Daniel chapter 10, a hand touched me and set me
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trembling on my hands and knees. He said, Daniel, you who are
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highly esteemed, consider carefully the words I am about
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to speak to you and stand up, for I have now been sent to you.
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And when he said this to me, I stood up, trembling.
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Then he continued. Do not be afraid, Daniel.
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Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding
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and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard,
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and I have come in response to them.
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But the Prince of the Persian Kingdom resisted me. 21 days.
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Then Michael, one of the chief Princess came to help me because
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I was detained there with the king of with the king of Persia.
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Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your
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people in the future for the vision concerns a time yet to
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come. Now this is really interesting
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and I just as I was reading it, I started thinking about
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something I had read that the study Bible said was there was
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they it says like, why would you know, why would Jesus need this
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Michael? Why would Jesus need Michael to
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help him? You know, if it's Jesus, that's,
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you know, he wouldn't need Michael to help him.
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That's a really good point. However, at this point when
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Daniel is saying this, Jesus hasn't died on the cross yet and
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somehow Satan has. He's called the ruler of the air
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and he's rowing about the earth. And also, if you remember when
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Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, he went out to the
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wilderness and Satan tempted him for 40 days.
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And during that temptation time, Satan took him up on a tall
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mountain or hilltop and basically said, look at all of
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this. This is my Kingdom.
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If you bow down and worship me, I will give it to you.
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And Jesus didn't say, Satan, that's not yours.
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You can't do that. You don't have authority to do
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that. Jesus didn't say that.
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Jesus said you shall not test, test or tempt the Lord your God
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and to when he said that, so, and he just said, you know, he
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was acknowledging Jesus was acknowledging who Jesus himself
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was the son of God. And he's like, don't don't test
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me or don't tempt me. I don't remember exactly what
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the word was, but he was basically that's all he, he just
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kind of rebuked Satan basically, but he didn't say Satan.
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That's not true. So and then when we get into the
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Book of Revelation, everyone in heaven is cheering when
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everything has been turned over to Jesus.
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So at this point, maybe Jesus has, you know, like there's all
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these principalities. The way we understand from Paul
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that God apparently the Father has assigned to different
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entities angelic beings to oversee certain areas.
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That's also kind of confirmed in the Book of Enoch.
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That is not canonized or part of the Bible, but it explains a lot
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of this where there's these, these angelic rebellious beings
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who came to the earth and did things they weren't supposed to
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do. But the Bible itself does
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support that. There are different
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principalities and they have dominion over certain lands.
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If we think about it, the ancient lands that are talked
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about in the Bible, which I do like to point out as we read
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along, because you will see that these lands seem to always have
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been against the Israelites, against God.
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And why do you think that might be?
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Maybe the people that were living in those lands were being
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influenced by the enemy of God. Maybe this is all spiritual.
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I, I didn't understand this until I read the Bible, but
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everything that's going on in the Middle East is spiritual.
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It's a spiritual battle for territory.
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It's the enemies of God that want to have the earth.
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That's what this is a power struggle.
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And that's what we're experiencing.
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And, and we're not, you know, it says we're, we don't wrestle
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against flesh and blood, but we do against the evil entities in
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the spiritual realms that have these principalities and have
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dominions over certain areas. So all the people in the Bible
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knew this in ancient times. But until we read the Bible,
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because nobody talks about it, we don't understand this.
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And we don't understand there's a higher spiritual thing that's
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happening in this world and it's affecting all of us here.
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So anyway, and that's why I think this, this could have very
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well been Jesus that said this. So I'm going to I'm going to
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read this again. Then he continued.
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Don't be afraid, Daniel, since the first day that you set your
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mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before God,
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God doesn't like the proud. Your words were heard and I've
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come in response to them. But the Prince of the Persian
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Kingdom, so the ruler of the Persian Kingdom resisted me 21
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days. So maybe there's some legal God
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is very orderly and very legal. He doesn't just not abide by his
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rules. That's exactly if, if he could
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just, he can do whatever he wants, but because he's right
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and he's just, he has to do things legally.
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So just like he could have if he wanted to, if he wasn't
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righteous, he could have just saved all of us and he wouldn't
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have had to send, send his son Jesus to die on the cross for
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us. But because he does things
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legally, there was a required sacrifice.
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There was. It says the wages of sin is
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death. Somebody had to pay the price.
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Animals didn't cut it because they weren't human.
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That's why Jesus took on the form of a human being.
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And was killed so that he could be the substitute sacrifice for
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our sins. I mean he literally God came
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down in human form and died and was abused prior to that on the
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on the cross and then resurrected just so that we can
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be in the Kingdom of God. It just like the Bible says
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there's no greater love than one who lays down their life for
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another and that's what Jesus did for us.
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Then it says then Michael, one of the chief Princess came to
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help me. So you know, God chose Israel.
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So it would make sense that Michael, the Angel that is
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overseeing Israel, who has that area, that he would be with
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Jesus. He would be helping him.
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Jesus returns with the armies of the heavenly armies at the very
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end. So you know he doesn't need them
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but they come with him. So that argument about well it
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wouldn't be Jesus because he wouldn't be helping Michael or
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something. Jesus was always like AI mean
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when he came to earth he acted like a servant.
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He washed his disciples feet. You think he wouldn't help
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Michael the Archangel? I mean that just doesn't that
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contradicts the scripture what we know.
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OK, so it's because I was detained there with the King of
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Persia. Now I have come to explain to
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you what will happen to your people in the future for the
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vision concerns a time yet to come.
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So God reveals things. So again, he didn't say I come
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with the message from God. He just said I'm telling you
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what's going to happen. So it kind of seems like this is
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probably Jesus here. What else was I going to?
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Oh, strengthening. So Daniel gets very weak.
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And that's a very common thing that people who have visions of
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angels or visions of Jesus, they become very weak.
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There's just something about in the presence, they fall down on
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their knees. And this is exactly what
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happened to Elijah when he was, oh gosh, he was going through a
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battle with Jezebel and Ahab and they were trying to kill all
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these prophets. And so this is a part of that
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story where Elijah is running away so that he's not killed
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like the other prophets of the Lord, the true prophets that are
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hearing from God. So this is in First Kings
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chapter 19, verse 4. This is about Elijah.
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While he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness.
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He came to a broom Bush, sat down under it and prayed that he
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might die. I have had enough, Lord, He
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said, take my life. I am no better than my
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ancestors. This sounds like repentance.
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It sounds like he's just he's giving up here.
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Then he lay down under the Bush and fell asleep all at once.
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An Angel touched him and said get up and eat.
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So when I look up Angel, it says Malak it, which is a messenger,
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ambassador or variant, or it could be an Angel.
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So it could be, but it it might be a messenger of God, it could
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be the Son of God. I don't know because he
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strengthens. So anyway, I don't know if
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angels have that power to strengthen somebody, but I know
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that God does. So then he lay down and the
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Angel said, get up and eat. He looked around and there by
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his head was some bread baked over hot coals and a jar of
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water. He ate and drank and then lay
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down. OK, now that I'm reading that,
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instantaneously, all of a sudden I had another thought.
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What happened when the disciples after Jesus rose from the dead,
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the disciples are out on a boat. They come in and they come to
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shore and they see Jesus there. He's making a meal for them.
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He's cooking fish and they ate and drank with him.
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This was after he died and resurrected.
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So this is another thing that Jesus has done before that he
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feeds his people, he brings. He's again has this like servant
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posture that he's doing. Then it says the Angel of the
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Lord or the messenger of the Lord came back a second time and
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touched him and said, get up and eat, for the journey is too much
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for you. So he got up and ate and drank.
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Strengthened by that food, he travelled 40 days and 40 nights
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until he reached Horeb, the mountain of God, that's Mount
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Sinai. So there he went into The Cave
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and spent the night, and the word of the Lord came to him.
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What are you doing here, Elijah? So like God is just right with
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him. And that's something else like a
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biblical message that we get when we read Scripture is when
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we're going through tough times. Like Elijah was, he was wanting
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to die. He was like, take my life.
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And God was with him. God was strengthening him.
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Like with God, the impossible is possible.
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That's also in Scripture. And then in Psalms it says, not
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Psalms, it is Philomen, I guess Philippians, Philippians.
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I wasn't sure which one it was. The way it was abbreviated in
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Philippians 4 verse 13, it says I can do all this through him
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who gives me strength. So the Lord gives strength to
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people. So again, that's another reason
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why I think this messenger could have been Jesus.
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When we get to Ezekiel chapter one, verse 28, it says this is a
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vision that he said I saw actually verse 27, he has this
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heavenly vision. He said, I saw that from what
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appeared to be his waist up, he looked like glowing metal as if
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full of fire and that from there down he looked like fire and a
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brilliant light surrounded him. So the only thing that I can say
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about this one, let's see, we have to read verse.
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The verse before that it says above the vault over their heads
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was what looked like a throne of lapis lazuli.
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And high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man.
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So again, this is what I think is Jesus that I saw from what
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appeared to be his waist up. He looked like glowing metal, as
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if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire
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and a brilliant light surrounded him, like the appearance of a
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rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day.
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So was the radiance around him. This was the appearance of the
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likeness of the glory of the Lord.
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When I saw it, I fell face down and I heard the voice of one
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speaking. So again, it's just like in awe.
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That's what happens to people. They they feel weak, they fall
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down and there's this light that's shown and that's kind of
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what Daniel saw. He said in verse 6.
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He said his body was like Topaz, his face like lightning, his
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eyes like flaming torches. So again, the sounds like him
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and then let's see this is the story about what happened with
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Saul and starting in Acts Chapter 9 verse 3, as he neared
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Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven
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flashed around him. That's just like what Daniel
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saw. He said his face.
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Daniel said, his face like lightning.
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This is back to Acts now where Saul or Paul?
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He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, Saul, Saul,
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why do you persecute me? Who are you Lord?
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Saul asked. I am Jesus whom you are
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persecuting. He replied.
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Now get up and go into the city and you will be told what you
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must do. So Jesus just gives him
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direction. The men travelling with Saul
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stood there speechless. They heard the sound but did not
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see anyone. That was just like what happened
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to Daniel. The the others that were with
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him, they, they just felt terror and they fled and hid.
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They didn't see it, but he did. But they experienced something.
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Saul got up from the ground, going back to the book of Acts.
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Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could
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see nothing. So they led him by hand into
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Damascus. And so then that goes on about
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Saul's story about him being obedient to Jesus.
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And then his eyesight was restored.
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And then John has a vision of Christ.
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And this is what John says in the Book of Revelation chapter
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1. And this is where let's start at
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verse 10. On the Lords day I was in the
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Spirit and I heard behind me a voice like a trumpet which said
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right on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven
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churches to Ephesus, Smyrta, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis,
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Philadelphia and Laodicea. I turned around to see the voice
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that was speaking to me and when I turned I saw 7 golden
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lampstands and among the lampstands was someone like a
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son of man the way Jesus is often described, dressed in a
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robe reaching down to his feet with a golden sash around his
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chest. So again, this golden sash, the
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golden belt, this is this is repeated through multiple
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visions. The hair on his head was white
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like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire.
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That's what Daniel said. His eyes like flaming torches,
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his feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his
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voice was like the sound of rushing waters.
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It's kind of like what Daniel said, his arms and legs like
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gleams of burnished bronze and his voice like the sound of a
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multitude. And then it goes on to describe
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more in the Book of Revelation. So then here's another thing
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that I came across as I was thinking about this.
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You know what the study Bible says that, well, Jesus, you
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know, Christ the Messiah would not need Michael to help him or
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anything. Well, actually, that'll be the
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end of it. So I'm not going to go there yet
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because we have to finish Daniel's chapter 10 before that
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next cross reference in the Bible's going to make sense.
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So the last verse that we read was the the person who appeared
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to Daniel saying, Now I have come to explain to you what will
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happen to your people in the future, for the vision concerns
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a time yet to come. While he was saying this to me,
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I bowed with my face toward the ground and was speechless.
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Then one who looked like a man touched my lips, and I opened my
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mouth and began to speak. I said to the one standing
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before me. I am overcome with anguish
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because of the vision, my Lord, and I feel weak.
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How can I, your servant, talk with you, my Lord?
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My strength is gone, and I can hardly breathe again.
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The one who looked like a man touched me and gave me strength.
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It's the Lord who strengthens people.
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Do not be afraid. You who are highly esteemed.
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He said peace, be strong now be strong.
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When he spoke to me, I was strengthened just speaking to
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him. That's what Jesus says.
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There are power in words, the power and the, you know, in God
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through God. So when he spoke to me, this
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wasn't by food or anything. This was just speaking to him.
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He was strengthened and that's, this sounds like son of God.
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When he spoke to me, I was strengthened and said, speak my
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Lord, since you have given me strength.
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So he said, do you know why I have come to you?
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Soon I will return to fight against the Prince of Persia.
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And when I go, the Prince of Greece will come.
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But first I will tell you what is written in the book of Truth.
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No one supports me against them except Michael, your Prince.
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And and in the first year of Darius the Mead, I took my stand
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to support and protect him. So Michael is a senior.
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He's like the chief, you know, an Archangel.
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He's somebody important that is overseeing Israel and this
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person, this, this, I won't say person, this entity, the Jesus,
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let's just say Jesus, Jesus who came to talk to Daniel said in
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the first year of Darius that was from Chapter 9.
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That's when Daniel had that vision.
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He said I took my stand to support and protect him.
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So this person delivering the this being delivering the
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message to Daniel is protecting Michael.
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Wouldn't that be Jesus? I mean, this just sounds so much
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like Jesus. Let's see what else is there.
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And then he has to, you know, if again, it's God is legal, he
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does things through justice through his laws.
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He does what he needs to do to accomplish his will.
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So is, you know, in during this time was Jesus fighting against
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the Prince of Persia and how would anyone except for Jesus be
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all knowing, except for God be all knowing to say that when I
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leave, the Prince of Greece will come and the Greece is actually
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Yevon or Yavon. And, and that is, you know, I
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guess like ancient Ionia, and that is primarily modern day
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Turkey. It does consist of other areas.
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But whenever I hear Greece, the way the Bible has it translated
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in these versions instead of Yavon, which are Yavon, they
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don't know how to pronounce it in the Bible.
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The actual Hebrew word. It gives me a different picture
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of what we're talking about. But the Greece was the Ionia.
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Ancient Ionia was located on the western the coast of Asia Minor,
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meaning its territory is primarily within modern day
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Turkey. That kind of gives us a little
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bit of a different understanding of this of Greece.
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I mean, if we substitute just like I talked about before about
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the goat, which was symbolic, I think of Turkey, and I think
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that plays into current day events as well, that we should
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really pay attention to it. And we'll probably get into more
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of that detail when we get into the kings of the north and the
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South. But that was just so, so
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detailed. Like that's just going to take a
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little bit to go through that one.
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But it says key Ionian cities like Ephesus, Militis, Smyrna
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are in Turkey. But the spirit of Ionia
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philosophy early scene is part of a broader Greek heritage,
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while the name also refers to islands that are now part of
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Greece like Samos and Chios. So I don't know how to say that.
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And the Ionian Sea so that is it talks about.
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This is also interesting. Ancient Yvana or Yvonne
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primarily refers to the Greek and Hellenistic peoples,
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especially those interacting with ancient India.
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So modern countries like Greece but also areas of modern
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Pakistan and Afghanistan where Indo Greek kingdoms ruled and
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historically regions were Greek settled like Turkey, Egypt and
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parts of Central Asia. The name itself comes from
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Ionians, the Greek Persians first met and persist in modern
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names for Greece across many languages.
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So it's Yevon and Hebrew. So I think it's always
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interesting to find out about these things.
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So another thing that I came across when I was looking about
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Anatolia, Turkey, where they're saying that that is becoming,
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they're finding more and more archaeological findings.
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And they're, there's like a, a thought that this could be like
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the, the origination of human civilization.
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And that was thought to have been ancient Mesopotamia, where
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ancient civilization started. But now they're thinking it
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might be Anatolia, Turkey. So everything, if we're talking
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about the history of the world and where it all started,
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Mesopotamia, that's where Abraham was called from.
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He was in the land of Ur, which is the land of Mesopotamia,
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which is like modern day Iraq. That's where all this came from.
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And God called him. That's how all this started.
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God called him and then told him that he would have descendants
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that would be numerous. And then through him came Jacob,
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came Isaac and Jacob. So that's why you hear that
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Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and he there you can follow along in
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the Bible and find how the promise was given to the next
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generation. When you travel, you know, go
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through generations, Abraham to Isaac, to Jacob, to his
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descendants, the promise stayed with the descendants of Jacob.
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And so you see that Israel is the name for Jacob.
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God changed again. This is another Jesus sighting
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where I think it was actually Jesus wrestling with Jacob and
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he names him Israel. So these are there's just so
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many times where Jesus appears in not just in prophecy, but
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literally in the Old Testament. And the more I read, the more I
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see this. But ancient Mesopotamia was
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modern day Iraq and also parts of Syria, Turkey and Iran.
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So think about where all this chaos is happening right now.
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This is where it all started. This is where it's all going to
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end eventually. But to know the Bible is to know
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the very beginning of our world and what happened.
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And it makes everything make sense.
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Like you understand what is going on in the world when you
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know what's in the Bible because it applies to our modern day.
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And anyway, it just keeps current life very interesting.
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I had no idea. Again, this was going to be such
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a long podcast, so I'm going to end it now, but hopefully it was
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beneficial to you. If you aren't already
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subscribed, please subscribe to this podcast and share it with
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others if you think it would be helpful.
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The most important thing is that we all develop a relationship
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with Christ because Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, and
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no one comes to the Father except through Him.
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So when somebody reaches out to us, you can be assured that if
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they're talking about God, if they're talking about Jesus,
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that God is trying to get your attention.
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So get into Scripture and seek him because there will be
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benefits. I mean, God's trying to give you
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the inheritance that he planned for everybody, but it's up to us
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to respond. He's not going to force us,
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force it on us. So it's our decision, but
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respond to God. So hopefully staying in the word
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every day like I tried to do through these podcasts will help
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others stay in the Word also. Come back again.
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Thanks.