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How a Near-Death Experience Inspired Musical Mastery · Music Explored Podcast

• 0:00
  So
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  I
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  have
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  a.
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  Just
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  was
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  wondering,
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  were
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  you
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  religious
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  prior
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  to
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  this
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  event
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  and
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  how
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  did
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  this
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  change
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  your
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  view
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  on
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  spirituality
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  and
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  religion
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  after
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  this
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  event?
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  wasn't
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  actually,
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  no,
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  I
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  wasn't
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  an
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  atheist
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  because
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  both
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  my
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  parents
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  are
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  Christian
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  and
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  they
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  took
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  us
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  to
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  church
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  as
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  a
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  family
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  when
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  we
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  were
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  younger.
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  And
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  I
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  actually
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  rejected
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  the
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  actual
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  notion
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  of
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  going
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  to
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  church.
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  I
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  didn't
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  feel
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  comfortable
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  with
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  it,
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  you
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  know,
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  so
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  my
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  parents
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  were
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  pretty
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  liberal
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  and
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  they
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  said
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  it's
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  okay,
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  you
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  can
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  still
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  stay
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  at
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  home.
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  So
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  I
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  kind
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  of
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  didn't
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  really
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  take
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  any,
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  any
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  faith
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  in
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  onwards
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  in
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  my
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  own
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  life,
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  as
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  it
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  were.
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  So
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  I
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  didn't
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  really
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  think
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  about
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  death
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  or
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  God
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  or
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  anything
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  like
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  that.
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  But
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  that
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  all
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  changed.
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  Yeah,
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  big
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  time.
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  I
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  mean,
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  I.
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  Part
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  of
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  what
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  happened
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  in
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  this
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  experience
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  was
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  that
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  I
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  actually
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  saw
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  what
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  I
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  believed
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  to
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  be
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  God.
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  I
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  was
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  faced
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  with
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  what
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  talk
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  about
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  when
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  they
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  have
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  NDEs,
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  near
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  death
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  experiences.
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  They
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  see
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  a
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  tunnel
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  of
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  white
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  light.
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  And
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  I
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  saw
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  that
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  tunnel
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  of
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  white
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  light
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  that
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  came
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  a
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  bit
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  further
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  on
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  into
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  the
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  experience
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  itself.
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  When
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  I
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  saw
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  it,
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  I
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  just
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  thought,
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  wow,
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  again,
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  it
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  was
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  this
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  beautiful
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  white
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  healing
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  light
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  that
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  was
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  giving
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  out
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  unconditional
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  love.
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  But
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  the
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  energy
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  was
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  just
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  like
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  turned
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  up.
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  It's
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  like
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  somebody
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  who
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  just
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  turned
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  the
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  dial
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  up
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  big
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  time.
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  And
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  there
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  was
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  like
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  flames
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  surrounding
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  this
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  white
• 1:24
  light,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  the
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  energy
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  of
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  love
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  was
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  just.
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  I
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  felt
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  like
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  every
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  molecule
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  in
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  my
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  body
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  was
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  vibrating
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  with
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  it.
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  And
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  I
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  just
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  thought,
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  and
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  it's
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  like
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  I
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  knew
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  straight
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  away
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  that
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  what
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  I
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  was
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  looking
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  at
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  here
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  was
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  the
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  source
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  of
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  all
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  creation.
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  So
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  it
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  was
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  a
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  big
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  moment
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  for
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  me
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  because
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  I
• 1:38
  thought
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  this
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  is.
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  There
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  is
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  a
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  God
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  and
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  this
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  is
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  it.
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  It's
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  not
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  some
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  guy
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  in
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  the
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  sky,
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  you
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  know,
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  or
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  whatever
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  our
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  faith
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  may
• 1:44
  be.
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  And
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  most,
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  most
• 1:46
  religions
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  of
• 1:47
  faith,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  God
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  is,
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  or
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  whatever
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  is,
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  is
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  in
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  some
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  kind
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  of
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  human
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  form,
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  if
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  you
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  like.
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  So
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  it
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  wasn't
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  for
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  me,
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  this
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  was
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  it.
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  This
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  is
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  what
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  I
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  was
• 1:54
  staring
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  at.
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  So
• 1:55
  that
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  stayed
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  with
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  me.
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  So
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  yeah,
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  so
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  my
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  spirituality
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  is
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  very
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  much
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  a
• 1:59
  part
• 1:59
  of
• 1:59
  my
• 1:59
  life
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  now.
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  Wow.
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  So
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  you,
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  you
• 2:03
  come
• 2:03
  back
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  from
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  that
• 2:05
  realm,
• 2:05
  we'll
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  say,
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  and
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  all
• 2:07
  of
• 2:07
  a
• 2:07
  sudden
• 2:07
  you
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  are
• 2:08
  immediately
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  aware
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  of
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  sound
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  and
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  the
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  bright
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  lights
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  and
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  the
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  pain.
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  How.
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  What
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  were
• 2:15
  your
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  thoughts
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  at
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  that
• 2:16
  point?
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  Were
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  you,
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  were
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  there
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  people
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  around
• 2:18
  you?
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  Were
• 2:18
  you,
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  were
• 2:20
  you
• 2:20
  able
• 2:20
  to
• 2:20
  speak
• 2:21
  or
• 2:21
  communicate
• 2:21
  at
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  all,
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  like
• 2:22
  what
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  was
• 2:22
  happening
• 2:23
  then?
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  Yeah,
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  well,
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  I
• 2:25
  remember
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  my
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  friend
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  Anna,
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  who,
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  the
• 2:28
  girl
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  was
• 2:28
  seeing
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  off
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  on
• 2:29
  the
• 2:29
  train,
• 2:29
  she
• 2:30
  stepped
• 2:30
  forward
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  at
• 2:30
  that
• 2:30
  point
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  and
• 2:32
  they
• 2:33
  were
• 2:33
  just
• 2:33
  about
• 2:33
  to
• 2:33
  take
• 2:33
  me
• 2:34
  straight
• 2:34
  into
• 2:34
  surgery
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  to
• 2:35
  Start
• 2:36
  operating.
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  And
• 2:37
  I
• 2:37
  said,
• 2:38
  anna,
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  something
• 2:39
  really
• 2:39
  important
• 2:39
  has
• 2:40
  just
• 2:40
  happened.
• 2:40
  I've
• 2:40
  got
• 2:40
  to
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  tell
• 2:41
  you
• 2:41
  about
• 2:41
  it.
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  And
• 2:42
  she
• 2:42
  was
• 2:42
  going,
• 2:43
  no,
• 2:43
  not
• 2:43
  now.
• 2:43
  Tell
• 2:44
  me
• 2:44
  later.
• 2:44
  And
• 2:44
  I
• 2:44
  said,
• 2:45
  no,
• 2:45
  this
• 2:45
  is
• 2:45
  so
• 2:45
  important.
• 2:46
  I
• 2:46
  was
• 2:46
  just
• 2:46
  like,
• 2:46
  I've
• 2:46
  got
• 2:47
  to
• 2:47
  tell
• 2:47
  you
• 2:47
  now.
• 2:48
  She
• 2:48
  said,
• 2:48
  we'll
• 2:49
  wait.
• 2:50
  We'll
• 2:50
  see
• 2:50
  you
• 2:50
  later.
• 2:51
  I
• 2:51
  said,
• 2:51
  okay.
• 2:52
  She
• 2:52
  kind
• 2:52
  of
• 2:52
  put
• 2:52
  her
• 2:52
  hand
• 2:53
  over
• 2:53
  my
• 2:53
  mouth.
• 2:54
  That's
• 2:54
  enough,
• 2:55
  you
• 2:55
  know,
• 2:55
  so.
• 2:56
  So,
• 2:57
  So
• 2:57
  I
• 2:58
  was
• 2:58
  really.
• 2:58
  That
• 2:58
  was
• 2:59
  it.
• 2:59
  I
• 2:59
  was
• 2:59
  willing
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  to
• 3:00
  theater.
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  So
• 3:00
  it's
• 3:00
  kind
• 3:00
  of
• 3:01
  odd
• 3:01
  because
• 3:01
  I'd
• 3:01
  gone
• 3:01
  from
• 3:02
  having
• 3:02
  everybody
• 3:02
  around
• 3:02
  me
• 3:03
  when
• 3:03
  I
• 3:03
  first
• 3:03
  came
• 3:03
  back
• 3:04
  to
• 3:04
  being.
• 3:05
  Going
• 3:05
  straight
• 3:06
  under
• 3:06
  an
• 3:06
  aesthetic
• 3:06
  then.
• 3:07
  And
• 3:07
  then
• 3:07
  when
• 3:07
  I
• 3:07
  came
• 3:07
  around,
• 3:08
  it
• 3:08
  was
• 3:08
  eight
• 3:08
  hours
• 3:08
  later
• 3:09
  and
• 3:09
  I
• 3:09
  was
• 3:09
  in
• 3:10
  a.
• 3:10
  They'd
• 3:10
  given
• 3:10
  me
• 3:11
  a
• 3:11
  room
• 3:11
  of
• 3:11
  my
• 3:11
  own
• 3:12
  in
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  hospital.
• 3:12
  So
• 3:12
  it
• 3:12
  was
• 3:12
  just
• 3:13
  me
• 3:13
  basically
• 3:13
  on
• 3:13
  my
• 3:14
  own
• 3:14
  for
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  first,
• 3:15
  you
• 3:15
  know,
• 3:15
  eight
• 3:16
  hours.
• 3:16
  So
• 3:16
  I
• 3:16
  was
• 3:16
  really
• 3:17
  kind
• 3:17
  of.
• 3:17
  I'd
• 3:17
  got
• 3:18
  a
• 3:18
  lot
• 3:18
  to
• 3:18
  sort
• 3:18
  of
• 3:19
  ponder
• 3:19
  over
• 3:19
  and
• 3:19
  think
• 3:19
  it
• 3:20
  through,
• 3:20
  you
• 3:20
  know,
• 3:21
  and
• 3:22
  I
• 3:22
  was
• 3:22
  actually
• 3:22
  really
• 3:23
  dying
• 3:23
  to
• 3:23
  see
• 3:24
  my
• 3:24
  family.
• 3:24
  I
• 3:24
  really
• 3:24
  wanted
• 3:25
  to
• 3:25
  see
• 3:25
  my
• 3:26
  mother
• 3:26
  especially.
• 3:26
  It
• 3:26
  was
• 3:27
  really
• 3:27
  odd.
• 3:27
  I
• 3:27
  remember
• 3:27
  just
• 3:28
  thinking,
• 3:28
  I
• 3:28
  want
• 3:28
  to
• 3:28
  see
• 3:28
  my
• 3:29
  mum.
• 3:29
  I
• 3:29
  want
• 3:29
  to
• 3:29
  tell
• 3:30
  them
• 3:30
  what's
• 3:30
  happened,
• 3:30
  you
• 3:30
  know,
• 3:31
  so.
• 3:31
  So,
• 3:31
  yes,
• 3:32
  I
• 3:32
  couldn't
• 3:32
  wait
• 3:32
  to
• 3:32
  see
• 3:32
  them.
• 3:34
  Did
• 3:35
  you
• 3:35
  ever
• 3:35
  question,
• 3:36
  like,
• 3:36
  whether
• 3:36
  it
• 3:37
  was
• 3:37
  real
• 3:37
  or
• 3:37
  were
• 3:38
  you
• 3:38
  100%
• 3:39
  certain?
• 3:39
  100%
• 3:40
  certain,
• 3:40
  yeah.
• 3:41
  Yeah.
• 3:41
  I've
• 3:41
  never
• 3:41
  doubted
• 3:42
  it
• 3:42
  because
• 3:42
  it
• 3:42
  was
• 3:43
  just.
• 3:43
  It's.
• 3:44
  It's
• 3:44
  not
• 3:44
  like.
• 3:45
  It's
• 3:45
  not
• 3:45
  like
• 3:45
  a
• 3:46
  dream
• 3:46
  state
• 3:46
  and
• 3:46
  it's
• 3:47
  not
• 3:47
  like,
• 3:48
  you
• 3:48
  know,
• 3:49
  an
• 3:49
  hallucination.
• 3:50
  It's.
• 3:50
  It's.
• 3:50
  It's
• 3:51
  like.
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  describe
• 3:51
  it
• 3:52
  as
• 3:52
  being
• 3:52
  ultra
• 3:52
  real.
• 3:53
  It's.
• 3:53
  It's.
• 3:53
  It's.
• 3:54
  It's
• 3:54
  like
• 3:54
  it's
• 3:54
  another
• 3:55
  dimension.
• 3:55
  So
• 3:55
  it's
• 3:56
  not
• 3:56
  quite
• 3:56
  the
• 3:56
  same
• 3:57
  as
• 3:57
  we
• 3:57
  are
• 3:57
  all
• 3:58
  sat
• 3:58
  here
• 3:58
  now,
• 3:58
  chatting,
• 3:59
  but
• 3:59
  in
• 3:59
  this
• 3:59
  world.
• 4:00
  But
• 4:00
  it's
• 4:00
  just.
• 4:01
  It
• 4:01
  is,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  know,
• 4:02
  I
• 4:03
  didn't
• 4:03
  just
• 4:03
  see
• 4:03
  it,
• 4:03
  I
• 4:03
  felt
• 4:04
  it,
• 4:04
  you
• 4:04
  know,
• 4:04
  the.
• 4:04
  The,
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  know,
• 4:05
  so
• 4:05
  there
• 4:06
  was
• 4:06
  an
• 4:06
  awful
• 4:06
  lot
• 4:07
  there.
• 4:07
  But
• 4:07
  not
• 4:07
  only
• 4:07
  that,
• 4:07
  since
• 4:08
  then,
• 4:08
  I've
• 4:09
  come
• 4:09
  across
• 4:09
  other
• 4:09
  people
• 4:09
  who've
• 4:10
  had
• 4:10
  NDEs,
• 4:11
  and.
• 4:11
  And
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  have
• 4:11
  so
• 4:12
  many
• 4:12
  similar
• 4:12
  feelings
• 4:13
  and
• 4:13
  stories
• 4:13
  to
• 4:14
  tell
• 4:14
  about
• 4:14
  it
• 4:14
  all,
• 4:14
  you
• 4:14
  know,
• 4:15
  and,
• 4:15
  you
• 4:15
  know.
• 4:16
  Yeah,
• 4:16
  I've
• 4:16
  never
• 4:16
  doubted
• 4:17
  it.
• 4:18
  What
• 4:19
  was.
• 4:20
  What
• 4:20
  were
• 4:21
  your
• 4:21
  injuries?
• 4:21
  When
• 4:21
  all
• 4:22
  is
• 4:22
  said
• 4:22
  and
• 4:22
  done,
• 4:23
  what
• 4:23
  did
• 4:23
  they
• 4:23
  have
• 4:23
  to
• 4:24
  operate
• 4:24
  on
• 4:25
  and
• 4:26
  what
• 4:26
  was
• 4:26
  the
• 4:26
  recovery
• 4:27
  like?
• 4:27
  The
• 4:27
  physical
• 4:28
  recovery?
• 4:28
  Yeah.
• 4:29
  That's
• 4:29
  interesting,
• 4:29
  actually,
• 4:30
  because,
• 4:30
  yeah,
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  main,
• 4:32
  as
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  say,
• 4:33
  my
• 4:33
  left
• 4:33
  arm
• 4:33
  being
• 4:34
  severed,
• 4:34
  that
• 4:34
  was
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  main
• 4:35
  bit
• 4:35
  they
• 4:35
  had
• 4:35
  to
• 4:36
  operate
• 4:36
  on.
• 4:36
  My
• 4:36
  whole
• 4:36
  body
• 4:37
  just
• 4:37
  got
• 4:37
  completely
• 4:38
  shook
• 4:38
  up,
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  be
• 4:38
  honest
• 4:39
  with
• 4:39
  you.
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  Mean,
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  couldn't
• 4:39
  move
• 4:39
  for
• 4:40
  weeks.
• 4:40
  I
• 4:40
  was
• 4:40
  just
• 4:40
  laid
• 4:41
  there
• 4:41
  on
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  hospital
• 4:42
  bed
• 4:42
  with
• 4:43
  tubes
• 4:43
  coming
• 4:43
  out
• 4:43
  of
• 4:43
  me.
• 4:44
  But.
• 4:44
  But
• 4:44
  I
• 4:45
  come
• 4:45
  out
• 4:45
  pretty
• 4:45
  good,
• 4:45
  really,
• 4:46
  in
• 4:46
  all
• 4:46
  fairness.
• 4:46
  I
• 4:47
  mean,
• 4:47
  the.
• 4:48
  The
• 4:48
  UK
• 4:48
  rail
• 4:49
  police
• 4:49
  did
• 4:49
  a
• 4:50
  massive
• 4:50
  inquiry.
• 4:50
  It.
• 4:51
  It
• 4:51
  took
• 4:51
  a
• 4:51
  whole
• 4:51
  year.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:52
  when
• 4:52
  they
• 4:52
  finished,
• 4:52
  they
• 4:52
  turned
• 4:53
  around,
• 4:53
  they
• 4:53
  said,
• 4:54
  you
• 4:54
  know
• 4:54
  what,
• 4:54
  we're
• 4:54
  finished
• 4:55
  now.
• 4:55
  But
• 4:55
  we're
• 4:55
  just
• 4:55
  banging
• 4:56
  our
• 4:56
  heads
• 4:56
  together
• 4:56
  still
• 4:57
  because
• 4:57
  we're
• 4:57
  saying,
• 4:57
  you
• 4:57
  should
• 4:58
  be
• 4:58
  dead,
• 4:58
  you
• 4:58
  should
• 4:58
  not
• 4:59
  have
• 4:59
  survived
• 4:59
  this.
• 4:59
  We've
• 5:00
  done
• 5:00
  all
• 5:00
  our
• 5:00
  figures,
• 5:00
  you
• 5:00
  know,
• 5:01
  So
• 5:01
  I
• 5:01
  came
• 5:02
  out
• 5:02
  pretty
• 5:02
  good,
• 5:03
  considering.
• 5:04
  But,
• 5:04
  yeah,
• 5:05
  but
• 5:05
  interestingly
• 5:06
  enough,
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  healed
• 5:07
  very
• 5:07
  fast
• 5:07
  as
• 5:07
  well.
• 5:08
  The
• 5:08
  surgeons
• 5:09
  were
• 5:09
  going,
• 5:09
  you're
• 5:09
  healing
• 5:10
  really
• 5:10
  quick.
• 5:10
  And
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  felt
• 5:11
  that
• 5:12
  I
• 5:12
  was
• 5:12
  still.
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  felt
• 5:13
  like
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  was
• 5:13
  still
• 5:14
  attached
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  other
• 5:15
  Realm,
• 5:15
  like
• 5:15
  I
• 5:15
  was
• 5:15
  still
• 5:16
  getting
• 5:16
  energy
• 5:16
  coming
• 5:17
  through
• 5:17
  from
• 5:17
  them
• 5:18
  there.
• 5:18
  You
• 5:18
  know,
• 5:18
  they
• 5:18
  were
• 5:18
  giving
• 5:19
  me
• 5:19
  the
• 5:20
  healing
• 5:20
  powers
• 5:20
  to
• 5:21
  keep
• 5:21
  me,
• 5:21
  to
• 5:22
  help
• 5:22
  me
• 5:22
  heal.
• 5:25
  I
• 5:25
  know
• 5:25
  firsthand
• 5:26
  what
• 5:26
  it's
• 5:26
  like
• 5:27
  when
• 5:27
  you
• 5:28
  kind
• 5:28
  of
• 5:28
  get
• 5:29
  close
• 5:29
  or
• 5:29
  you
• 5:30
  feel
• 5:30
  that
• 5:30
  you
• 5:30
  got
• 5:30
  close
• 5:31
  to
• 5:31
  death
• 5:31
  and
• 5:32
  you
• 5:32
  come
• 5:32
  out
• 5:32
  on
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  other
• 5:33
  side
• 5:34
  with,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:35
  know,
• 5:35
  life
• 5:35
  and
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  chance
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  kind
• 5:36
  of
• 5:37
  continue.
• 5:38
  Can
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  describe
• 5:39
  what
• 5:39
  that
• 5:40
  feeling
• 5:40
  was
• 5:40
  like
• 5:41
  when
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  were
• 5:42
  finally
• 5:42
  out
• 5:42
  of
• 5:42
  the
• 5:43
  hospital?
• 5:44
  Not
• 5:44
  a
• 5:45
  full,
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  know,
• 5:46
  clean
• 5:46
  bill
• 5:46
  of
• 5:46
  health,
• 5:46
  but
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  were
• 5:47
  able
• 5:47
  to,
• 5:47
  you
• 5:48
  know,
• 5:48
  kind
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  go
• 5:48
  back
• 5:49
  to
• 5:49
  somewhat
• 5:49
  of
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  normal
• 5:50
  life
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  what
• 5:50
  that,
• 5:51
  that
• 5:52
  second
• 5:52
  stage
• 5:52
  of
• 5:53
  your
• 5:53
  life
• 5:53
  was
• 5:53
  like?
• 5:53
  Because
• 5:53
  I
• 5:54
  know
• 5:54
  what
• 5:54
  it
• 5:54
  was
• 5:54
  like
• 5:55
  personally
• 5:55
  after
• 5:56
  my
• 5:56
  situation.
• 5:57
  So
• 5:57
  I'm
• 5:57
  just
• 5:57
  curious
• 5:58
  if
• 5:58
  you
• 5:58
  could
• 5:58
  share
• 5:58
  with
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  audience
• 5:59
  what
• 6:00
  your
• 6:00
  experience
• 6:00
  was
• 6:01
  like
• 6:01
  in
• 6:02
  that
• 6:02
  second
• 6:02
  phase.
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  know
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  don't
• 6:03
  like
• 6:04
  saying
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  NDE
• 6:05
  or
• 6:05
  whatever,
• 6:05
  but
• 6:06
  after
• 6:06
  you
• 6:06
  had
• 6:07
  that
• 6:07
  experience,
• 6:08
  that,
• 6:09
  that,
• 6:09
  that.
• 6:10
  That
• 6:10
  energy
• 6:10
  that
• 6:11
  overcomes
• 6:11
  you
• 6:12
  every
• 6:12
  day.
• 6:14
  Sure.
• 6:15
  Well,
• 6:16
  for
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  first
• 6:17
  six
• 6:17
  months,
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  was,
• 6:18
  like,
• 6:19
  completely
• 6:19
  filled
• 6:20
  with.
• 6:21
  With
• 6:21
  all
• 6:21
  this
• 6:22
  kind
• 6:22
  of
• 6:22
  energy
• 6:22
  and
• 6:23
  joy
• 6:23
  from
• 6:23
  what
• 6:23
  had
• 6:23
  just
• 6:24
  happened.
• 6:24
  Because
• 6:25
  I've
• 6:25
  been
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  this
• 6:25
  realm
• 6:26
  that
• 6:27
  was
• 6:27
  full
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  unconditional
• 6:28
  love.
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  was
• 6:29
  filled
• 6:29
  with
• 6:29
  it.
• 6:29
  And.
• 6:30
  But.
• 6:32
  And
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  got
• 6:33
  this,
• 6:33
  As
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  say,
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  got
• 6:33
  this
• 6:34
  burning
• 6:34
  desire
• 6:34
  to
• 6:35
  start
• 6:35
  painting,
• 6:35
  which
• 6:36
  is
• 6:36
  what
• 6:36
  I
• 6:36
  did.
• 6:36
  So
• 6:36
  I
• 6:37
  started
• 6:37
  doing
• 6:37
  all
• 6:37
  these
• 6:37
  huge
• 6:38
  paintings.
• 6:38
  I'd
• 6:38
  never
• 6:38
  done
• 6:39
  anything
• 6:39
  like
• 6:39
  that
• 6:39
  before,
• 6:40
  just
• 6:40
  to
• 6:40
  record
• 6:41
  what
• 6:41
  I'd
• 6:41
  seen.
• 6:42
  So
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  found.
• 6:42
  I
• 6:43
  suddenly
• 6:43
  found
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  I
• 6:44
  got
• 6:44
  new
• 6:44
  gifts,
• 6:44
  that
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  was
• 6:45
  now
• 6:45
  able
• 6:45
  to
• 6:45
  start
• 6:46
  paint.
• 6:46
  To
• 6:47
  paint,
• 6:47
  and
• 6:48
  all
• 6:48
  this
• 6:48
  creation
• 6:49
  was
• 6:49
  happening.
• 6:49
  You
• 6:49
  didn't
• 6:50
  paint
• 6:50
  before
• 6:50
  at
• 6:50
  all?
• 6:51
  No,
• 6:51
  no,
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  didn't
• 6:52
  do
• 6:52
  at
• 6:52
  all.
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  was
• 6:53
  doing
• 6:54
  manual
• 6:54
  work
• 6:54
  before,
• 6:55
  you
• 6:55
  know,
• 6:55
  and
• 6:56
  it
• 6:56
  was
• 6:57
  just.
• 6:57
  Yeah,
• 6:58
  so
• 6:59
  this
• 6:59
  came
• 7:00
  through,
• 7:01
  but
• 7:02
  I.
• 7:02
  When
• 7:02
  I
• 7:02
  was
• 7:02
  doing
• 7:02
  these
• 7:03
  paintings,
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  still
• 7:03
  now
• 7:04
  when
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  work,
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  feel
• 7:05
  like
• 7:05
  I'm
• 7:05
  Channeling
• 7:06
  energy
• 7:06
  from
• 7:06
  spirit.
• 7:07
  It's
• 7:07
  not
• 7:07
  just
• 7:07
  me,
• 7:08
  you
• 7:08
  know,
• 7:08
  it's
• 7:08
  coming
• 7:08
  through
• 7:09
  from
• 7:09
  somewhere
• 7:09
  else.
• 7:09
  And
• 7:10
  I'm
• 7:11
  allowing
• 7:11
  myself
• 7:11
  to,
• 7:12
  to
• 7:12
  kind
• 7:13
  of
• 7:13
  create
• 7:14
  and
• 7:14
  put
• 7:14
  this
• 7:14
  stuff
• 7:15
  on
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  canvas.
• 7:16
  Each
• 7:16
  episode
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  this
• 7:17
  podcast
• 7:18
  is
• 7:18
  recorded
• 7:18
  at
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  MPL
• 7:19
  right
• 7:20
  here
• 7:20
  in
• 7:20
  Toronto.
• 7:21
  But
• 7:21
  we
• 7:21
  don't
• 7:22
  say
• 7:22
  much
• 7:22
  about
• 7:22
  this
• 7:22
  cool
• 7:23
  studio
• 7:23
  space.
• 7:24
  It's
• 7:24
  essentially
• 7:25
  three
• 7:25
  studios
• 7:25
  in
• 7:26
  one
• 7:26
  film
• 7:27
  space,
• 7:27
  audio,
• 7:28
  post
• 7:28
  production
• 7:28
  suite,
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  full
• 7:29
  scale
• 7:29
  recording
• 7:30
  studio
• 7:30
  that
• 7:30
  are
• 7:31
  all
• 7:31
  integrated
• 7:31
  under
• 7:31
  one
• 7:32
  roof.
• 7:32
  You
• 7:33
  can
• 7:33
  film
• 7:33
  a
• 7:33
  movie,
• 7:33
  have
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  photo
• 7:34
  shoot,
• 7:35
  record
• 7:35
  or
• 7:35
  produce
• 7:36
  your
• 7:36
  own
• 7:36
  song,
• 7:37
  and
• 7:37
  so
• 7:37
  much
• 7:37
  more.
• 7:38
  Check
• 7:38
  them
• 7:39
  out
• 7:39
  at
• 7:39
  the
• 7:40
  MPL,
• 7:41
  that's
• 7:41
  maplewithoutthevowels.com
• 7:43
  to
• 7:44
  learn
• 7:44
  more.
• 7:44
  They'd
• 7:45
  love
• 7:45
  to
• 7:45
  hear
• 7:45
  about
• 7:45
  your
• 7:46
  next
• 7:46
  project
• 7:46
  and
• 7:46
  see
• 7:47
  how
• 7:47
  they
• 7:47
  can
• 7:47
  help.
• 7:48
  When
• 7:48
  I
• 7:49
  heard
• 7:49
  your
• 7:49
  story,
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  was
• 7:50
  taken
• 7:50
  away
• 7:50
  completely.
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  mean,
• 7:51
  it's
• 7:52
  mind
• 7:52
  blowing
• 7:52
  as
• 7:53
  far
• 7:53
  as
• 7:53
  what
• 7:53
  you've
• 7:53
  described
• 7:54
  to
• 7:54
  this
• 7:54
  point.
• 7:55
  But
• 7:55
  what
• 7:56
  kind
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  transpired
• 7:57
  next
• 7:58
  is,
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  think,
• 7:59
  what,
• 7:59
  excuse
• 8:00
  me,
• 8:00
  what
• 8:00
  really,
• 8:01
  what
• 8:01
  really
• 8:01
  gripped
• 8:02
  me.
• 8:02
  There's
• 8:02
  more,
• 8:03
  there's
• 8:03
  more.
• 8:04
  And
• 8:04
  obviously
• 8:05
  this
• 8:05
  is
• 8:05
  a
• 8:06
  music
• 8:07
  podcast,
• 8:07
  music
• 8:08
  related.
• 8:08
  So
• 8:09
  this
• 8:09
  next
• 8:09
  section
• 8:09
  just
• 8:10
  kind
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  seems
• 8:10
  to
• 8:10
  tie
• 8:11
  everything
• 8:11
  together,
• 8:12
  which
• 8:12
  is
• 8:12
  why
• 8:12
  I
• 8:12
  was
• 8:13
  like,
• 8:13
  we
• 8:13
  really
• 8:13
  have
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  talk
• 8:14
  to
• 8:14
  you.
• 8:14
  So
• 8:15
  I
• 8:15
  mean,
• 8:15
  there's
• 8:15
  the
• 8:15
  whole
• 8:16
  idea
• 8:17
  of
• 8:17
  the.
• 8:17
  Or
• 8:18
  not
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  idea,
• 8:18
  but
• 8:19
  your
• 8:19
  experiences
• 8:20
  with
• 8:20
  near
• 8:21
  death.
• 8:21
  And
• 8:22
  then
• 8:22
  you
• 8:22
  came
• 8:22
  back
• 8:23
  with
• 8:23
  these
• 8:23
  incredible
• 8:24
  gifts.
• 8:25
  So
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  just
• 8:26
  wanted
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  kind
• 8:26
  of
• 8:27
  just
• 8:27
  mention
• 8:27
  that
• 8:28
  as
• 8:28
  we
• 8:28
  set
• 8:29
  up
• 8:29
  what
• 8:29
  kind
• 8:29
  of
• 8:30
  took
• 8:30
  place
• 8:30
  next
• 8:30
  and
• 8:31
  what
• 8:31
  gifts
• 8:31
  you
• 8:31
  came
• 8:31
  back
• 8:32
  with
• 8:32
  and
• 8:33
  how
• 8:33
  you're
• 8:33
  gonna
• 8:33
  blow
• 8:34
  Matt's
• 8:34
  mind
• 8:35
  with.
• 8:35
  This
• 8:35
  next
• 8:35
  little
• 8:36
  bit
• 8:36
  here.
• 8:38
  Okay,
• 8:39
  well,
• 8:40
  this.
• 8:41
  So
• 8:41
  yeah,
• 8:41
  this
• 8:42
  was
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  next
• 8:42
  stage
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  journey
• 8:44
  for
• 8:44
  me
• 8:44
  that
• 8:45
  I
• 8:46
  had.
• 8:46
  I'd
• 8:47
  played
• 8:47
  guitar
• 8:48
  before,
• 8:48
  but
• 8:48
  very
• 8:48
  basic,
• 8:49
  you
• 8:49
  know,
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  was
• 8:49
  thrashing
• 8:50
  out
• 8:50
  three
• 8:50
  chords,
• 8:50
  you
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:51
  in
• 8:52
  punk,
• 8:52
  sort
• 8:52
  of
• 8:52
  pop
• 8:52
  bands
• 8:53
  or
• 8:53
  whatever,
• 8:53
  like,
• 8:54
  like
• 8:54
  many
• 8:54
  of
• 8:54
  us.
• 8:55
  But
• 8:56
  what
• 8:56
  was
• 8:56
  to
• 8:56
  come
• 8:57
  next
• 8:57
  was
• 8:57
  that
• 8:57
  I
• 8:58
  was
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  start
• 8:58
  writing
• 8:59
  music.
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  was,
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  was
• 9:00
  having
• 9:00
  spiritual
• 9:00
  healing
• 9:01
  and
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  was
• 9:01
  going
• 9:02
  for
• 9:02
  spiritual
• 9:02
  healing
• 9:02
  that
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  discovered
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  which
• 9:04
  was
• 9:04
  really
• 9:05
  great.
• 9:05
  And
• 9:06
  a
• 9:06
  lot
• 9:06
  of
• 9:06
  those
• 9:06
  healers,
• 9:08
  they
• 9:08
  would
• 9:08
  give
• 9:09
  me
• 9:09
  the
• 9:09
  clairvoyance
• 9:10
  something
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  they
• 9:10
  would
• 9:10
  give
• 9:11
  me
• 9:11
  messages
• 9:11
  afterwards
• 9:12
  and,
• 9:12
  and
• 9:13
  they
• 9:13
  kept
• 9:13
  saying,
• 9:13
  why
• 9:14
  am
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  seeing
• 9:14
  Wagner
• 9:15
  or
• 9:15
  violin
• 9:16
  placed
• 9:16
  across
• 9:16
  your
• 9:16
  chest?
• 9:17
  And
• 9:17
  things
• 9:17
  like
• 9:17
  that?
• 9:17
  And
• 9:17
  then,
• 9:18
  then
• 9:18
  one
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  them
• 9:18
  turned
• 9:19
  around
• 9:19
  and
• 9:19
  said,
• 9:19
  they're
• 9:20
  telling
• 9:20
  me
• 9:20
  that
• 9:20
  you're
• 9:20
  going
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  write
• 9:21
  a
• 9:21
  piece
• 9:21
  of
• 9:21
  music
• 9:22
  about
• 9:22
  your
• 9:22
  experience.
• 9:22
  And
• 9:23
  when
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  say
• 9:23
  they,
• 9:24
  she's
• 9:25
  talking
• 9:25
  about
• 9:25
  her
• 9:26
  guides
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  give
• 9:26
  me
• 9:26
  the
• 9:27
  energy
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  be
• 9:27
  healed.
• 9:28
  So
• 9:29
  I,
• 9:29
  I
• 9:30
  went
• 9:30
  away
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  tried
• 9:31
  to
• 9:31
  write
• 9:31
  what
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  thought
• 9:32
  was
• 9:32
  going
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  be
• 9:32
  a
• 9:32
  3
• 9:33
  minute
• 9:33
  pop
• 9:33
  song
• 9:34
  about
• 9:34
  it.
• 9:34
  But
• 9:34
  it
• 9:34
  wasn't
• 9:35
  happening.
• 9:35
  And
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  was
• 9:35
  doing
• 9:36
  it
• 9:36
  on.
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  couldn't
• 9:36
  play
• 9:37
  guitar
• 9:37
  anymore
• 9:37
  because
• 9:37
  my
• 9:38
  left
• 9:38
  arm
• 9:38
  was
• 9:38
  bashed
• 9:38
  up.
• 9:39
  But
• 9:39
  old
• 9:40
  synthesizer
• 9:40
  at
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  loft
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  I
• 9:42
  started
• 9:42
  and
• 9:42
  these,
• 9:43
  then
• 9:43
  suddenly
• 9:43
  these,
• 9:44
  this
• 9:44
  chord
• 9:45
  progression
• 9:45
  came
• 9:45
  through
• 9:46
  to
• 9:46
  me
• 9:47
  and
• 9:47
  it
• 9:48
  came
• 9:48
  again.
• 9:48
  It
• 9:48
  came
• 9:49
  through
• 9:49
  from
• 9:49
  somewhere
• 9:49
  else
• 9:49
  I
• 9:50
  thought.
• 9:50
  And
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  just
• 9:50
  recorded
• 9:51
  it.
• 9:51
  All
• 9:51
  I
• 9:51
  got
• 9:51
  was
• 9:52
  an
• 9:52
  old
• 9:52
  cassette
• 9:52
  recorder
• 9:53
  and
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  just
• 9:54
  recorded
• 9:54
  it
• 9:54
  onto
• 9:55
  that.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  thought
• 9:56
  this
• 9:56
  sounds
• 9:56
  great.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:56
  I
• 9:57
  started
• 9:57
  developing
• 9:57
  in
• 9:58
  it.
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  thought
• 9:58
  this
• 9:58
  sounds
• 9:59
  like
• 9:59
  it
• 9:59
  should
• 9:59
  be
• 9:59
  performed
• 10:00
  by
• 10:00
  an
• 10:01
  orchestra.
• 10:01
  So
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  got
• 10:02
  this
• 10:02
  same
• 10:02
  kind
• 10:02
  of
• 10:03
  freeing
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  ambition,
• 10:05
  just
• 10:05
  like
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  paintings.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  thought,
• 10:06
  why
• 10:07
  not?
• 10:07
  Why
• 10:07
  not?
• 10:08
  Why?
• 10:08
  And
• 10:08
  so
• 10:08
  I
• 10:09
  made
• 10:09
  friends
• 10:10
  with
• 10:10
  a.
• 10:10
  With
• 10:10
  a
• 10:11
  cello
• 10:11
  player.
• 10:11
  And
• 10:12
  she
• 10:12
  used
• 10:12
  to
• 10:13
  come
• 10:13
  up
• 10:13
  and
• 10:13
  see
• 10:13
  me
• 10:13
  when
• 10:13
  I
• 10:14
  was
• 10:14
  doing
• 10:14
  my
• 10:14
  paintings
• 10:14
  and
• 10:15
  we
• 10:15
  used
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  meet
• 10:15
  for
• 10:15
  coffee
• 10:16
  and
• 10:16
  one
• 10:16
  day
• 10:16
  she
• 10:17
  said,
• 10:17
  oh,
• 10:17
  what
• 10:17
  you've
• 10:17
  been
• 10:17
  up
• 10:17
  to?
• 10:17
  And
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  said
• 10:18
  I'm.
• 10:18
  I've
• 10:19
  just
• 10:19
  been
• 10:19
  working
• 10:19
  on
• 10:19
  this
• 10:19
  new
• 10:20
  piece
• 10:20
  of
• 10:20
  music.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  said
• 10:21
  it,
• 10:21
  but
• 10:21
  it
• 10:22
  feels
• 10:22
  like
• 10:22
  it
• 10:22
  should
• 10:22
  be
• 10:23
  performed
• 10:23
  by
• 10:24
  an
• 10:24
  orchestra.
• 10:24
  And
• 10:24
  she
• 10:25
  said,
• 10:25
  well,
• 10:25
  maybe
• 10:26
  we
• 10:26
  could
• 10:26
  do
• 10:26
  it.
• 10:27
  And
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  was
• 10:27
  going,
• 10:27
  really?
• 10:28
  So
• 10:28
  I
• 10:28
  thought
• 10:29
  I'm
• 10:29
  going
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  hold
• 10:29
  you
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  that.
• 10:30
  So
• 10:30
  I
• 10:31
  just
• 10:31
  developed
• 10:31
  it
• 10:31
  up
• 10:32
  and
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  can't
• 10:34
  read
• 10:34
  or
• 10:34
  write
• 10:35
  a
• 10:35
  single
• 10:35
  note
• 10:35
  of
• 10:35
  notation
• 10:36
  still,
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  know,
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  this
• 10:37
  day.
• 10:37
  But
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  started
• 10:38
  hearing
• 10:39
  all
• 10:39
  these
• 10:39
  different
• 10:39
  sounds
• 10:40
  like,
• 10:40
  like,
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  hear
• 10:41
  like
• 10:41
  flutes
• 10:41
  and
• 10:42
  horns
• 10:42
  coming
• 10:42
  through.
• 10:42
  Then
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  discover
• 10:43
  that
• 10:43
  a
• 10:43
  horn
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  a
• 10:44
  French
• 10:44
  horn
• 10:44
  and
• 10:45
  all
• 10:45
  these
• 10:45
  different
• 10:45
  instruments.
• 10:46
  And
• 10:46
  I,
• 10:47
  and
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  started
• 10:47
  putting
• 10:47
  it
• 10:48
  together
• 10:48
  and
• 10:49
  my
• 10:50
  brother,
• 10:51
  he
• 10:51
  was
• 10:51
  down
• 10:51
  in
• 10:51
  London
• 10:52
  and
• 10:52
  he
• 10:52
  said
• 10:53
  to
• 10:53
  me,
• 10:53
  look,
• 10:53
  I've
• 10:53
  got
• 10:54
  this
• 10:54
  bit
• 10:55
  of
• 10:55
  software
• 10:56
  kit
• 10:56
  that
• 10:56
  you
• 10:57
  can
• 10:57
  attach
• 10:57
  to
• 10:58
  your
• 10:58
  laptop
• 10:59
  and
• 10:59
  when
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  play
• 11:00
  on
• 11:00
  your
• 11:00
  keyboard,
• 11:01
  it
• 11:01
  will
• 11:01
  transpose
• 11:02
  it
• 11:02
  in
• 11:03
  through
• 11:04
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• 11:04
  as
• 11:04
  it's
• 11:04
  called.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:05
  then,
• 11:05
  and
• 11:05
  then
• 11:05
  that
• 11:06
  will,
• 11:06
  then
• 11:06
  you
• 11:07
  can
• 11:07
  get
• 11:07
  the
• 11:08
  notation
• 11:08
  to
• 11:09
  print
• 11:09
  out.
• 11:09
  So.
• 11:09
  Which
• 11:09
  is
• 11:10
  what
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  did.
• 11:10
  So
• 11:10
  I
• 11:11
  printed
• 11:11
  out
• 11:11
  all
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  parts
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  met
• 11:13
  for
• 11:13
  a
• 11:13
  coffee
• 11:13
  with
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  orchestra
• 11:14
  and
• 11:15
  they
• 11:15
  said,
• 11:15
  yeah,
• 11:15
  it
• 11:16
  looks
• 11:16
  great,
• 11:16
  we'll
• 11:16
  do
• 11:17
  it.
• 11:17
  So
• 11:17
  they
• 11:17
  offered
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  perform
• 11:19
  it.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:20
  so
• 11:20
  I
• 11:20
  wrote
• 11:20
  my
• 11:20
  first.
• 11:21
  I'd
• 11:21
  only
• 11:21
  written
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  first
• 11:22
  movement
• 11:23
  at
• 11:23
  that
• 11:23
  point
• 11:23
  when
• 11:23
  they
• 11:24
  agreed
• 11:24
  to
• 11:24
  do
• 11:24
  it.
• 11:24
  So
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  had
• 11:25
  two
• 11:25
  more
• 11:25
  movements
• 11:25
  to
• 11:26
  write.
• 11:26
  So
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  ended
• 11:27
  up
• 11:27
  writing
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  whole
• 11:27
  symphony.
• 11:28
  And,
• 11:29
  and
• 11:29
  it
• 11:29
  was.
• 11:30
  Yeah,
• 11:32
  so.
• 11:32
  And
• 11:32
  that's
• 11:33
  just
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  way
• 11:33
  you
• 11:33
  say
• 11:33
  it.
• 11:35
  You
• 11:35
  just
• 11:35
  made
• 11:36
  it
• 11:36
  sound
• 11:36
  so
• 11:36
  simple,
• 11:37
  like
• 11:37
  it's
• 11:37
  something
• 11:37
  that's
• 11:37
  supposed
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  happen
• 11:39
  everyone
• 11:39
  else
• 11:39
  can
• 11:39
  do.
• 11:40
  How,
• 11:41
  how
• 11:41
  do
• 11:41
  you
• 11:41
  have,
• 11:41
  how
• 11:42
  do
• 11:42
  you
• 11:42
  go
• 11:42
  from
• 11:42
  having
• 11:43
  melodies,
• 11:44
  we
• 11:44
  might
• 11:44
  even
• 11:45
  call
• 11:45
  them
• 11:45
  random
• 11:45
  melodies
• 11:46
  in
• 11:46
  your
• 11:46
  head
• 11:46
  to
• 11:47
  figuring
• 11:47
  out
• 11:47
  how
• 11:47
  to
• 11:48
  get
• 11:48
  them
• 11:48
  out
• 11:48
  of
• 11:48
  your
• 11:49
  head
• 11:49
  to
• 11:49
  then
• 11:50
  putting
• 11:50
  them
• 11:50
  together
• 11:52
  arranged
• 11:53
  as
• 11:53
  a
• 11:53
  full
• 11:54
  score
• 11:54
  for
• 11:54
  an
• 11:55
  orchestra.
• 11:56
  That
• 11:56
  seems
• 11:56
  like
• 11:56
  a
• 11:57
  lot
• 11:57
  more
• 11:57
  than
• 11:58
  just,
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  know,
• 12:00
  entering
• 12:01
  something
• 12:01
  into
• 12:01
  a
• 12:02
  keyboard
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  then
• 12:03
  letting
• 12:03
  it
• 12:03
  spit
• 12:03
  out.
• 12:04
  That
• 12:04
  seems
• 12:04
  pretty
• 12:04
  involved
• 12:05
  on
• 12:05
  your
• 12:05
  side.
• 12:05
  Was
• 12:06
  there
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  lot
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  figuring
• 12:06
  out
• 12:07
  to
• 12:07
  do
• 12:07
  or.
• 12:08
  Yeah,
• 12:08
  I
• 12:09
  tried
• 12:09
  very
• 12:09
  hard
• 12:09
  not
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  figure
• 12:11
  it
• 12:11
  out.
• 12:11
  I
• 12:12
  tried
• 12:12
  hard
• 12:12
  not
• 12:12
  to
• 12:13
  intellectualize
• 12:13
  it,
• 12:13
  because
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  think
• 12:14
  if
• 12:14
  I'd
• 12:14
  done
• 12:15
  that,
• 12:15
  I
• 12:15
  would
• 12:15
  have
• 12:15
  got
• 12:15
  scared,
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  probably
• 12:16
  it
• 12:17
  wouldn't
• 12:17
  have
• 12:17
  happened.
• 12:18
  The
• 12:18
  ideas
• 12:19
  were
• 12:19
  flowing
• 12:19
  through,
• 12:20
  and
• 12:20
  they
• 12:20
  would
• 12:20
  just
• 12:21
  come
• 12:21
  in,
• 12:21
  and,
• 12:22
  like
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  say,
• 12:22
  I'd
• 12:23
  hear
• 12:24
  sands,
• 12:24
  and
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  kind
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  think
• 12:25
  to
• 12:25
  myself,
• 12:25
  that's
• 12:26
  like.
• 12:27
  That
• 12:27
  sounds
• 12:27
  like,
• 12:28
  as
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  say,
• 12:28
  a
• 12:28
  horn.
• 12:29
  So
• 12:29
  there's
• 12:29
  a
• 12:29
  French
• 12:29
  horn.
• 12:30
  And
• 12:30
  that's
• 12:30
  how
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  learned
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  use
• 12:31
  a
• 12:31
  French
• 12:32
  horn.
• 12:32
  And
• 12:32
  I
• 12:32
  realized
• 12:33
  that
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  more
• 12:34
  sands
• 12:34
  that
• 12:34
  I
• 12:35
  use,
• 12:35
  the.
• 12:35
  The
• 12:36
  richer
• 12:36
  the
• 12:36
  textures
• 12:37
  would
• 12:37
  be.
• 12:37
  You
• 12:37
  know,
• 12:37
  again,
• 12:38
  it
• 12:38
  was
• 12:38
  like
• 12:38
  doing
• 12:38
  a
• 12:38
  painting.
• 12:39
  They
• 12:39
  were,
• 12:39
  like
• 12:39
  colors
• 12:40
  that
• 12:40
  were
• 12:40
  starting
• 12:40
  to
• 12:41
  evolve.
• 12:41
  But
• 12:42
  you
• 12:42
  know
• 12:42
  what?
• 12:43
  When
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  say
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  didn't
• 12:44
  intellectualize
• 12:44
  it,
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  went
• 12:45
  this
• 12:45
  far.
• 12:46
  That
• 12:46
  a
• 12:46
  lot
• 12:46
  of
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  time,
• 12:46
  when
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  was
• 12:47
  actually
• 12:47
  working
• 12:48
  on
• 12:48
  it,
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  used
• 12:48
  to
• 12:49
  have
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  TV
• 12:49
  on
• 12:49
  in
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  background,
• 12:50
  really
• 12:51
  low,
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  volume
• 12:51
  down,
• 12:52
  because
• 12:52
  it
• 12:53
  made
• 12:53
  me
• 12:53
  not
• 12:54
  take
• 12:54
  it
• 12:54
  too
• 12:54
  seriously.
• 12:55
  You
• 12:55
  know,
• 12:55
  it
• 12:55
  made
• 12:55
  me
• 12:55
  just
• 12:56
  think,
• 12:56
  if
• 12:56
  something
• 12:57
  comes
• 12:57
  while
• 12:57
  I'm
• 12:57
  half
• 12:58
  watching
• 12:58
  this
• 12:58
  movie,
• 12:59
  then
• 13:00
  it'll
• 13:01
  come,
• 13:01
  and
• 13:01
  that's
• 13:01
  how
• 13:01
  it
• 13:02
  happens.
• 13:02
  And.
• 13:03
  But
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  was
• 13:04
  very
• 13:04
  much
• 13:04
  helped.
• 13:05
  I.
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  realized
• 13:06
  that
• 13:06
  I
• 13:06
  was
• 13:06
  channeling
• 13:07
  ideas
• 13:07
  through
• 13:08
  from
• 13:09
  another
• 13:09
  source,
• 13:10
  and.
• 13:11
  And
• 13:11
  when
• 13:11
  that
• 13:11
  happens,
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  just
• 13:12
  kind
• 13:12
  of
• 13:12
  go
• 13:13
  with
• 13:13
  it,
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  just
• 13:13
  keep
• 13:14
  keep
• 13:14
  going,
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  I.